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Patti LuPone: A Memoir comes out tomorrow bitches!

Who's gonna read it?

by Anonymousreply 47305/09/2013

I bought my copy on Monday. She was in Atlanta doing one of her 4 signings. Didn't get to see her but raced down to Outwrite to buy a copy.

by Anonymousreply 109/14/2010

So it was published posthumously?

by Anonymousreply 209/14/2010

A couple friends who read an advance copy really liked it a lot.

by Anonymousreply 309/14/2010

What did she say about Life Goes On? In Chris Burke's biography he said Patti refused to do scenes with him, and a used a stand-in when the camera was on him.

by Anonymousreply 409/14/2010

Does she say how such a fug as herself got the beautiful Kevin Kline into bed with her?

by Anonymousreply 509/14/2010

[quote]LuPone is the ultimate backstage gossip, and she never pulls her punches: During the ill-fated Baker's Wife, she despised actor Chaim Topol ("an asshole") and had little enthusiasm for his replacement, Paul Sorvino ("like having Howdy Doody at Auschwitz").

Wow.

by Anonymousreply 609/14/2010

I can't stand when someone is entertainment airs her petty longstanding grudges in public like that.

How unprofessional.

by Anonymousreply 709/14/2010

My partner and I leafed through an advance copy which was lying on a friend's dining room table. We read a few paragraphs and giggled at a few of the more pretentious ones.

After rolling our eyes a few times, we put the book down and started to move away.

"Gotta love Patti," my partner commented.

And then from the book came an ear-piercing scream:

"How DARE you! Who do you think YOU are? Get them out. Get them OUT!"

by Anonymousreply 809/14/2010

"I can't stand when someone is entertainment airs her petty longstanding grudges in public like that.

How unprofessional."

I agree. Nobody wants to read about all the incest/rape that a person has to go through.

by Anonymousreply 909/14/2010

Rape-rape, O. Tell it girl!

by Anonymousreply 1009/14/2010

Anna Patty wrote her book to bring out the mental condition that she suffers from. Up to that point no one ever would "talk" about mental illness. Her book helped thousands of people seeking help or get help for someone who suffers from mental illnesses. The gossipy parts were just an added bonus. Also I read that they wanted Duke to add much more gossip but she didn't. Oh well, it would have been interesting to see what else she would have written.

by Anonymousreply 1109/14/2010

I know that this is splitting hairs but Anna-Patty was not raped, she claimed that she was molested. Which of course is a terrible thing no matter how you look at it.

by Anonymousreply 1209/14/2010

I'm biased and gay... but if you look at photos of her when she was younger, she was quite beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 1309/14/2010

Patti Lupone is as gracious as sand paper. I, for one, am hoping this comes back to bite her in her very large, dimply ass.%0D %0D She's a cunt who confuses volume with emotion. She is to Broadway what Tonya Harding is to ice: talented, but as graceful as a lumbering ox, with the class and moral fiber of a tinker.%0D %0D May her flappy vaginal lips finally have enough and curl up, swallowing that asshole whole.

by Anonymousreply 1409/14/2010

r14 = Andrew, Lord Lloyd Webber

by Anonymousreply 1509/14/2010

r15 LOL

by Anonymousreply 1609/14/2010

r15 LOL

by Anonymousreply 1709/14/2010

Don't soft-peddle it, r14, tell us what you really think.

by Anonymousreply 1809/14/2010

Does the book have consonants?

by Anonymousreply 1909/14/2010

Yes, r19. But no vowels.

by Anonymousreply 2009/14/2010

Without a libretto to play, she's dull as dishwater just singing. I saw her "Torch Songs" concert a couple of years ago at Lincoln Center, and goddamit was she boring! Same goes for Brian Stokes Mitchell.

by Anonymousreply 2109/14/2010

Can someone re-tell the story that earned her the nickname "Splatsy" LuPone?

by Anonymousreply 2209/14/2010

HOW DARE YOU, r21!!!

Mr. Laurents! I demand that you have r21 KILLED!

by Anonymousreply 2309/15/2010

Sorry Patti - won't pay money to see you perform, certainly won't pay money to read your book.

by Anonymousreply 2409/15/2010

John Houseman and the Streaking Incident: Patti was part of the now-famous Group 1 of Juilliard's Drama Division, run by the fearsome John Houseman. Once, after a performance of The Three Sisters, %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CHe grabbed me by the throat, started shaking me furiously and said, %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%98I want to beat you black and blue until you are bloody with bandages all over your face.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D (Um, he hadn%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99t been able to understand what she was saying during a crying scene.) But Houseman had a fun side! He encouraged members of the touring Acting Company to join a streaking party in Saratoga, after which an actress (not Patti) %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9Cdis-robed him, knelt down, and with her lily-white hands, cupped his soft penis and kissed it.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D LuPone%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s reaction: "AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!"

The Patti/Kevin Kline/Peter Weller Love Triangle: Fellow Juilliard student Kevin Kline was LuPone%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9Cfirst great love,%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D and the pair had a seven-year on-off relationship, including four years of touring the country by bus with The Acting Company. In 1977, she developed romantic feelings for a pre-Robocop Peter Weller when they co-starred in the Chicago premiere of The Woods, a David Mamet play about an intense relationship. The entire experience, including living in a freezing-cold, squalid hotel, left LuPone miserable and depressed. At the closing night party, %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9Cin a drunken stupor, I declared my love for Peter to Peter with Kevin standing right next to me.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D She and Kline patched things up %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9Cuntil he slept with a chorus girl in Boston while he was doing On the Twentieth Century.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D

Misbehaving with David Mamet: Patti and the inscrutable playwright David Mamet struck up a friendship when he spent time on the Acting Company tour bus. %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CHe%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s bold and raw and I%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99m definitely that, if anything,%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D she writes of Mamet, who cast her in five of his plays and several movies over the years. Not surprisingly, the pals got into mischief: After being ejected from the Breakers Hotel in Palm Beach for unexplained reasons, %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CWe found a golf cart%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%A6and stared making doughnuts on the golf course.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D Another time, an angry Mamet threw a dollar bill on the floor of a restaurant and told the hostess to %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9Cpick it up yourself if you want it.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D LuPone%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s reaction to Mamet%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s outburst: %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CI was scared and thrilled by it. It%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s a rage I can translate onstage.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D

The Sunset Boulevard Dressing Room Incident: LuPone devotes 40 pages to Sunset Boulevard, a potentially career-crippling experience in which Andrew Lloyd Webber let her twist in the wind as Meryl Streep considered the role of Norma Desmond, Barbra Streisand recorded the show%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s two big songs and Glenn Close opened in L.A. and, ultimately, in the Broadway production. Patti%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s (huge) settlement paid for a swimming pool, but her pain is still palpable as she recalls getting the news in her West End dressing room that gossip columnist Liz Smith was announcing Close as her replacement. %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CI took batting practice in my dressing room with a floor lamp,%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D LuPone writes. %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CI swung at everything in sight%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%94mirrors, wig stands, makeup, wardrobe, furniture, everything. Then I heaved the lamp out the second-floor window.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D

Tears with Arthur Laurents: After all that drama (in every sense of the word), LuPone%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s saga ends with our heroine happily married to Matt Johnston (love him!), the proud mom of handsome son Joshua, and a Tony winner for Gypsy. On opening night, Arthur Laurents, the show%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s 90-year-old director/librettist (who had previously blackballed LuPone from playing Momma Rose) appeared in her dressing room with a scary look in his eye: %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9C%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%98I know the review from the New York Times.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99 Tears started to well up in his eyes and I said in my mind, %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%98No, no, please. Arthur, no. Don%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99t tell me now! I have to go out and do this show.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D We won%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99t spoil the rest of this sweet story. To find out what Laurents and LuPone said next, check out Patti LuPone: A Memoir.

by Anonymousreply 2509/15/2010

From the back cover:%0D %0D "Not since the treatment of "If I Did It" have I so much enjoyed the work of a celebrity who should be permanently removed from society." Andrew Lloyd Webber%0D %0D "LuPone writes like she plays the tuba." Frank Rich%0D %0D "Better than ex lax after a cheese tasting." Betty Buckley

by Anonymousreply 2609/15/2010

[quote]John Houseman and the Streaking Incident: Patti was part of the now-famous Group 1 of Juilliard's Drama Division, run by the fearsome John Houseman. Once, after a performance of The Three Sisters, He grabbed me by the throat, started shaking me furiously and said, I want to beat you black and blue until you are bloody with bandages all over your face. (Um, he hadnt been able to understand what she was saying

Having seen her in "Gypsy," I know exactly how he felt.

by Anonymousreply 2709/15/2010

STOP FANNING THE FLAMES OF THE PATTI HATRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 2809/15/2010

Oh Christ, here we go again. R28, you REALLY can't move on, can you?

by Anonymousreply 2909/15/2010

R29, AndrewT won't let anyone move on -- why should we?

by Anonymousreply 3009/15/2010

She and Laurents are not speaking now. LOL.%0D %0D She also wrote that Streisand stole "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" by recording it before the show opened. WTF? Never saw that record...

by Anonymousreply 3109/15/2010

R31, Patti revises all of her history to make herself the victim. She is incapable of taking even an OUNCE of responsibility for her behavior and reputation. %0D %0D Kind of like AndrewT.

by Anonymousreply 3209/15/2010

WHO?

Seriously, essentially NOBODY on the planet outside Manhattan knows who this woman is and those who do just don't care.

I'm a New Yorker myself (UWS here) and guarantee you this bitch doesn't register on the radar of people off this island. Just because NYC-based talk shows give her cred doesn't mean she's relevant. And no, a television program over 20 years ago doesn't count.

She is famous only to the theater crowd in New York and even there I don't understand the appeal.

by Anonymousreply 3409/15/2010

R33, that's why I signed my subsequent posts as R28.%0D %0D Poor Andrew -- can't figure it out. Dropout.

by Anonymousreply 3509/15/2010

r34, is it really FOR YOU to understand? She has people that have supported her over the years and made her a star. Here's some advice to put you to bed on those long, sleepless nights debating her merits-just deal with it.

Although you may have the gravitational pull of a large space object, the world DOES NOT revolve around you.

by Anonymousreply 3609/15/2010

r35, why are you such a horrible human being?

by Anonymousreply 3709/15/2010

Rabid theater queen alert @ R36 !

by Anonymousreply 3909/15/2010

%0D R22 Here ya go.%0D %0D From the archives of Ann Miner's Talkin Broadway site ALL THAT CHAT%0D %0D %0D ATC- "It's not just a chat site.. it's BROADWAY!!"%0D %0D %0D %0D %0D "Splatsy" LuPone%0D %0D Posted by: meowster 03:02 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D %0D %0D My god! What is this woman eating? She was in a stall next to mine at a restaurant in midtown. There wasn't a can of lysol big enough to handle the stench. Wow! I'm still not over it. Must have been some foreign meat. Yuck.%0D %0D %0D %0D Did she eat corn?%0D %0D Posted by: dramedy 03:11 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D %0D In reply to: "Splatsy" LuPone - meowster%0D %0D 03:02 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D %0D %0D old joke--sorry%0D %0D %0D %0D Yes, she did...%0D %0D Posted by: clothedboysinging 03:18 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D %0D In reply to: Did she eat corn? - dramedy%0D %0D 03:11 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D %0D %0D the very same kind that Jerry liked!%0D %0D %0D %0D A new low for ATC postings%0D %0D Posted by: tjkcmo 03:16 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D In reply to: "Splatsy" LuPone - meowster 03:02 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D %0D %0D Seriously? "Patti Lupone's poop smells bad"? What have we come to?%0D %0D And I thought chekky was the only thing on this site that sickened me.%0D %0D %0D %0D %0D Posted by: mrsrobbins 03:29 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D In reply to: A new low for ATC postings - tjkcmo 03:16 pm EDT 10/02/07%0D %0D %0D I have to agree. I also have to admit, embarassedly so, that I howled out loud when I first read your post. But now I'm feeling a little strange about laughing. There's got to be some level of privacy that even a celebrity can expect to hold on to. Commenting on a celebrity's bad bathroom stink seems a bit beyond the pale. I don't know if I'd want to be held up to that kind of scrutiny.%0D %0D What else would we have the poor woman do when nature calls?%0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D -%0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 4009/15/2010

She has people that have supported her over the years and made her a star."

R36, did you throw glitter in the air and make jazz hands when you typed that?

by Anonymousreply 4109/15/2010

R31, I imagine it is not "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" but rather the two big "Sunset Boulevard" arias "With One Look" and "As If We Never Said Goodbye" that Streisand recorded on her "Back To Broadway" album as the show was opening in London.

by Anonymousreply 4209/15/2010

The poster at ATC was obvious a very bitter Bernadette Peters, right after Patti's triumphant turn in "Gypsy."

by Anonymousreply 4309/15/2010

You are absolutely right on both counts, R21. I love both Patti and BSM in musicals, but their concerts and non-show recordings are boooooring.

by Anonymousreply 4409/15/2010

No, R41. He threw his meds in the air, screamed, to no one, "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE????!" and burned the few bridges he has left.%0D %0D Unfortunately, they're all bridges to nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 4509/15/2010

Not true, R4!

by Anonymousreply 4609/15/2010

Is this AndrewT the same chap who posted THERE MAY BE A DEAD PERSON IN THE APARTMENT UPSTAIRS!!! WHAT DO I DO DL?? ??

by Anonymousreply 4809/15/2010

It is kind of interesting how so many musical theatre and/or classical singers suck when they tackle pop material.

by Anonymousreply 4909/15/2010

R42, we all know that. The point is that LuPone WROTE IN HER AUTOBIOGRAPHY that Streisand recorded Evita songs before the show opened. She also mentions the Sunset Blvd songs.%0D %0D Who is AndrewT?

by Anonymousreply 5009/15/2010

She says how Streisand wanted the role of Evita...unlikely since Streisand was in the midst of her stage fright period and wasn't considering doing stage ever again...plus she was working on Yentl at the time.

by Anonymousreply 5109/15/2010

What does she say about 'Life Goes On'. Please someone give me the gossip.

by Anonymousreply 5209/15/2010

[quote]She says how Streisand wanted the role of Evita...unlikely since Streisand was in the midst of her stage fright period and wasn't considering doing stage ever again...plus she was working on Yentl at the time.

It was widely known at the time that Streisand wanted that role for the film adaptation.

They even did a song about it for "Forbidden Broadway":"Don't Cry for Me, Barbra Streisand."

by Anonymousreply 5309/15/2010

r52- she discloses that Corky was not retarded, and that was prosthetic make-up

by Anonymousreply 5409/15/2010

Is Kellie (can't remember her surname) from Life Goes On/ER mentioned?

by Anonymousreply 5509/15/2010

Patti sang at Kellie Martin's wedding. Guess she needed the work

by Anonymousreply 5609/15/2010

"Streisand was in the midst of her stage fright period and wasn't considering doing stage ever again...plus she was working on Yentl at the time."%0D %0D Streisand was "in the midst" of stage fright for about 20 years. Plus, we are talking about her interest in the movie version, not the stage Evita.%0D %0D She was also "working on" Yentl for a decade. Didn't really start working on it until 1981. Evita opened on Broadway in the spring of 1980. Yes, 1980.

by Anonymousreply 5709/15/2010

Right...she can't sing... can't act, can't perform.

Ah hah.

by Anonymousreply 5809/15/2010

There was a time when Patti was kind, when her voice were soft and her words inviting. There was a time when she sang a song and the song was exciting. Then it all went wrong.

by Anonymousreply 5909/15/2010

[quote] when her voice were soft

When she was on vocal rest?

by Anonymousreply 6009/15/2010

"I wanna wedding that's HONK HONK

And HONK HONK

HONK HONKHONKHONK!!!"

by Anonymousreply 6109/15/2010

I was at the premiere of Evita in San Francisco years ago. I was lucky to meet Patti, Mandy and others after the show. I remember there was concern that Evita would not be accepted in the USA and that is one reason it opened on the West Coast. LuPone was amazing. She has always been my favorite Evita, and I have seen them all in New York and London over the years. She was very kind and open in person and Mandy was simply beautiful in those days.

by Anonymousreply 6209/15/2010

[quote]and Mandy was simply beautiful [bold]in those days.[/bold]

But not any more.

by Anonymousreply 6309/15/2010

[quote]There was a time when she sang a song and the song was exciting. Then it all went wrong.

If you could have seen

Her at seventeen

When all of her dreams were new,

Beautiful and strong,

Before it all went wrong;

She's never known the meaning of

Surrender;

Never known the meaning of

Surrender.

by Anonymousreply 6509/15/2010

R62, I saw Patti in Evita in May of 1980 on Broadway before the Tonys -- she was brilliant. Saw it again four months later and she and Mandy sucked!%0D %0D I still like her version best.

by Anonymousreply 6609/15/2010

bumpy

by Anonymousreply 6709/15/2010

Did the infamous Patti patdown rate a chapter?

by Anonymousreply 6809/15/2010

Stan' ba, Bweno Arry!

Becaw yuwa-a no whasha gona ge imme

Jusa li toush sta qwalee!

by Anonymousreply 6909/15/2010

Poor AndrewT-- I feel sorry for him. He maneuvered his own downfall with his theatre friends on the Vera board.

by Anonymousreply 7009/15/2010

Patti really changed a lot during the Evita run. For example, she went from singing parts of the score to screaming them (i.e. the end of "Rainbow High")

by Anonymousreply 7109/15/2010

If Garland is sirloin steak done to perfection, LuPone is a double cheeseburger -with the emphasis on the cheese.

by Anonymousreply 7209/15/2010

R71, all the coke might have had something to do with that. ALLEGEDLY.

by Anonymousreply 7309/15/2010

R72- Garland had talent. LuPone is just blowsy.

by Anonymousreply 7409/15/2010

Why, Patti LuPone is one of the greatest talents alive today... and she's not the only one who will tell you that, either!

by Anonymousreply 7509/16/2010

True, r75. Her gay son says so, too.

by Anonymousreply 7609/16/2010

Just think of my eh you like

And my eh you like

And my eh you like

And my eh you like

And my like you like

You like you like you like

Just like Eva Peron....

by Anonymousreply 7709/16/2010

I just watched her on The View from this morning. She is SO crass and vulgar. And now Patti is a fatty, too.

I hear she trashes Glenn Close in the book. ALW, I understand. But Close didn't do anything to her.

by Anonymousreply 7809/16/2010

A lot of you Philistines preferred Madonna as Evita.

by Anonymousreply 7909/16/2010

Even I'll admit Glenn was a great improvement in the role.

by Anonymousreply 8009/16/2010

Patti LuPone has no class. She is skanky.

by Anonymousreply 8109/16/2010

Puleeeze R72 & R74, did you ever see Garland in person other than watch or listen to carefully edited albums, movies and TV shows? She was a train wreck. IF she showed up.

by Anonymousreply 8209/16/2010

In Garland's defense, you could always understand what she said -- even when fucking up the lyrics.%0D %0D I'd wait an hour for Judy, if she didn't show on time. I wouldn't wait for ten minutes for Lupone.%0D %0D Not. Ten. Minutes.

by Anonymousreply 8309/16/2010

"True, [R75]. Her gay son says so, too."%0D %0D Do we know that the son is gay? He's cute!

by Anonymousreply 8409/16/2010

It sounds like she's channeling helen Lawson.

by Anonymousreply 8509/16/2010

Which is why you wanted to get back on Vera's board, right? We had to remind Vera how you treated him and couldn't be trusted. Oh yeah, you actually DO miss us. No one is buying it, douchebag.

by Anonymousreply 8709/16/2010

Does she mention if her brother is gay, or at least bi?

by Anonymousreply 8909/16/2010

See, Vera?

by Anonymousreply 9009/16/2010

Who is AndrewTPhilly?

by Anonymousreply 9109/16/2010

"In Garland's defense, you could always understand what she said -- even when fucking up the lyrics."%0D %0D Um, no, not really, R83. And you wouldn't wait an hr, you'd wait 5 HOURS.%0D %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 9209/16/2010

Judy was totally guilty of schlurring her wordzh.

by Anonymousreply 9309/16/2010

R93, Judy had an excuse. She was ill and dependent on pills. What's Lupone's excuse?

by Anonymousreply 9409/16/2010

"I also have that Baltimore 1968 concert on CD... I couldnt believe it... It took me a long time to get over that... Do you think Judy honestly was suffering from 'food poisoning' as she tried to explain to the audience? Or was it drink?"

by Anonymousreply 9509/16/2010

R94, you forgot insane.

by Anonymousreply 9609/16/2010

I suppose she was born to play Rose- loud mean and obnoxious. I could not stand her in Evita. I thought she was hard, over acted, oversang and that snarling upper lip always accentuated by makeup was and is ugly ugly ugly.%0D %0D I don't get it- she is strking as hell, I give you that- hell is the operative word. Throwing things around her dressing room when she doesn't get a role? Cliche.%0D %0D Also thought she was awful in Anything Goes. In fact I laughed out loud when she sang, as did many others. It was loud, it had a certain characteristic style, but you could not understand a bloody word, which is the whole point of the songs. It was almost as if she was doing it purposefully- it kind of made her a joke.%0D %0D Ah well- to each their own.

by Anonymousreply 9709/16/2010

[quote] Throwing things around her dressing room when she doesn't get a role?

Not to mention throwing things AT people.

by Anonymousreply 9809/16/2010

I hear that criticism all the time -- that her singing is unintelligible. I have never had the slightest problem hearing every word she sings, in person and on recordings, quite clearly. Do different ears hear things differently?

by Anonymousreply 9909/16/2010

R99, give me a break.%0D %0D And try seeing her live, in a concert. She sings like she has a colostomy bag in her mouth.

by Anonymousreply 10109/16/2010

No, R100, my first exposure to her was the Evita cast recording, and I had no comprehension problems. Ditto with her Sunset Boulevard recording ... I saw Glenn Close do it on Broadway only after I listened to LuPone on CD. I also saw her in concert a few years back, singing old songs I'd never heard before. I found them boring, but I understood every word.

by Anonymousreply 10209/16/2010

Me neither. she was very easy to understand... I don't understand this hatred against her in here. I assume it is one person - it usually is. I guess she didn't answer your email or sign your autograph book.

by Anonymousreply 10309/16/2010

Yes. Patti threatened his life when she found out that he was posting on numerous websites that he knows her because they once lived on the same street in NYC. %0D %0D (See page 5 of this thread for the answer)

by Anonymousreply 10409/16/2010

People have different tastes. But unfortunatly, one joke about her diction was made and it has. never. fucking. stopped. since.%0D %0D People, if you're gonna trash someone, get fresh material.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 10509/16/2010

Please. She even tells a story herself about how she got her ass handed to her by Stephen Sondheim when she did Passion. He shouted at her than he couldn't understand a word coming from her mouth.

by Anonymousreply 10609/16/2010

I love that her defenders are arguing she doesn't mumble and jumble her words, when even Patti HERSELF admits it.%0D %0D THAT is all the proof you need that her fans are deluded and ill.

by Anonymousreply 10709/16/2010

r107=deluded and ill.%0D %0D I LOVE how people who poke fun at her fans can't look in the mirror and see what dicks they truly are. You people are instigators. Why does it matter to you what my taste in music is?

by Anonymousreply 10809/16/2010

This thread is hilarious. Please continue with the shenanigans.

by Anonymousreply 10909/16/2010

Her ego is phenomenal

by Anonymousreply 11109/16/2010

Patti told CBS Sunday Morning she doesn't understand why people think she is a bitch.

"How many years later is it? And people say, 'Oh, she's a real bitch.' And it's like well, give me a chance," LuPone says.

by Anonymousreply 11209/16/2010

I love Stephen Sondheim.

by Anonymousreply 11309/16/2010

When she sings "Everything's Coming Up Roses", she sounds like Googie Gomez singing with a mouthful of cock.

by Anonymousreply 11409/16/2010

She kicked ass with the songs in SUNSET BLVD but with that honker of hers she was never believable as a movie star. If they had included the screen image of Norma in her glory days at the conclusion of the show like they did starting with Glenn Close in LA there would have been unintentional laughter.

by Anonymousreply 11509/16/2010

r110

LuPone threw a hairbrush smack dab at the ASM of Noises Off during a meltdown after the whole cast went out to the audience post-show to collect for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS. LuPone opted out of collecting (her prerogative) but got pissed that each of the remaining cast members collected at that particular show.

"Bully", "rage-filled". Hmmmm. Apposite adjectives re LuPone.

by Anonymousreply 11609/16/2010

One of Patti's fans bid on opening night tickets to "Gypsy," which included a cast party afterward and which cost a small fortune. After innocently emailing Ms. LuPone that she has won the tickets, suddenly, and with no explanation, they are withdrawn. The fan got a full-refund, but her name taken off the list to the party.

by Anonymousreply 11709/16/2010

r115

To be fair, Close has quite a beak on her.

by Anonymousreply 11809/16/2010

My bf went to Barnes and Noble's W66th St store this afternoon to buy her book. They wouldn't let him because they wanted all of the copies saved for the reading she was doing later today.%0D %0D And you wonder why that store is closing!

by Anonymousreply 11909/16/2010

VC will always be the queen.%0D %0D AndrewT will always be a lady in waiting... the eighth one, possibly ten or eleven.%0D %0D %0D I saw LuPone in concert. Matters of the Heart. It was a bore.%0D I did like her in EVITA. But I have heard horror stories about the mean things she says and the way she treats cast members.

by Anonymousreply 12009/16/2010

She's like Streisand. Horror stories amount to nothing more than telling hapless assistants that the tea was too hot or not bothering to say hello to them in the morning. %0D %0D Imagine being told all your life that you're ugly, that your beauty will always be judged before your immense talent. No wonder she has a chip on her shoulder. She HAD to get tough.%0D %0D The only story I've heard that I didn't like was the way she treated Chris Burke on "Life Goes on". But Patti says that she gets too professional sometimes and that it's a fault of hers. Besides Burke went to the Gypsy premiere, so they're obviously on good terms.%0D %0D But how you can not love someone, who after winning a second tony award, berates the theater community because it's been too long between awards? Lupone is like the butter on my toast!%0D %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 12109/16/2010

Isn't there some story of bad blood between her and Faith Prince during the revival of Noises Off? A fist fight or something??

by Anonymousreply 12209/16/2010

Webmaster: I w&wed r14, but only the last paragraph.

by Anonymousreply 12309/16/2010

[quote]What did she say about Life Goes On? In Chris Burke's biography he said Patti refused to do scenes with him, and a used a stand-in when the camera was on him.%0D %0D WHAT? Wow, that is something. What about the tear-jerker type scenes with them hugging? She must be one cold beyotch.%0D %0D %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 12409/16/2010

I never had a problem with her infamous enunciation; I just couldn't stand her yodeling. She used to sliiiide up to each note like she was calling goats on Heidi's mountain. I think she started working with a different vocal coach because she didn't do that in GYPSY.

by Anonymousreply 12509/16/2010

Yeah, but R115, Close was believable as a movie star because she WAS one. The only thing LuPone is believable as is a fishwife in Canarsie. The role in WOMEN ON THE VERGE sounds right for her, though.

by Anonymousreply 12609/16/2010

In law school, my very, very gay Contracts professor had us read the case of LuPone vs Lloyd-Webber about the "Sunset Boulevard" firing. (He also taught a class on entertainment law).

Bored, I wrote up a parody song about the case based on "Buenos Aires," as if sung by Glenn Close to Patti, and sent it to the prof. I don't remember all of it, but there was this.

(to the tune of the "and if ever I go too far" part)

[italic]Now, you're a footnote in law books, dear

But it won't end your great career

Try for TV, maybe cable

There's always hope for old broads like you

You could play Mame at eighty-two

Liza still works, when she's able[/italic]

Needless to say, I got an A in that class.

by Anonymousreply 12709/16/2010

I loved Patti in Sweeny Todd!

by Anonymousreply 12809/16/2010

[quote]She's like Streisand. Horror stories amount to nothing more than telling hapless assistants that the tea was too hot or not bothering to say hello to them in the morning.

Or breaking character during a musical (for which the audience has paid hundreds of dollars to see) in order to shriek, "HOW DARE YOU!!!" like a entitled shrew.

by Anonymousreply 12909/16/2010

[quote]I hear she trashes Glenn Close in the book. ALW, I understand. But Close didn't do anything to her.

She [bold]DARED[/bold]... she had the brazen [bold]AUDACITY[bold]... to

GET.

IN.

MY.

WAY!!!

by Anonymousreply 13009/16/2010

[/bold]...

by Anonymousreply 13109/16/2010

SHE'S A VULGARIAN!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 13209/16/2010

PATTI AT B&N!!!!

by Anonymousreply 13309/16/2010

Any post that has to do with Patti Lupone descends into madness when Andrew shows up and starts decompensating. He'll scream and scream that he's moved on, but his obsessive, patholigcal inability to actually do so....well, it's inherent in his ramblings. Best to avoid the mess. He's dangerous.

by Anonymousreply 13409/16/2010

the worst ROSE EVER!!!!!! And I've seen most....

Even Bette was better, and she was bad.

As for her bitchiness being overrated? I think not.

She hated one of the louise understudied and wouldn't let her go on.

She's that hateful

by Anonymousreply 13509/16/2010

Sorry. I've seen her a couple of times on stage and never liked her...especially her warbling in Sweeney Todd. DREADFUL!. Won't cross the street to see her at a book signing let alone buy a book!

by Anonymousreply 13609/16/2010

Actually, r134, I started this thread and YOU showed up and started trouble, as you ALWAYS do. You just like to pick on people.%0D %0D Your act hasn't changed much.

by Anonymousreply 13709/16/2010

r135, I know Louise's understudy that you speak of and you're a liar.

by Anonymousreply 13809/16/2010

[/bold] I like how insane this thread is.

by Anonymousreply 13909/16/2010

You may have started it, but you didn't show up til people started criticizing Lupone. THAT's when you REALLY showed up. My act hasn't changed? My act? The irony.

by Anonymousreply 14009/16/2010

I've always been able to totally understand her, too R125--in MASTER CLASS, MATTERS OF THE HEART, SWEENEY TODD, CAN-CAN, GYPSY and who knows what else. That mushmouth joke I think became widespread with the FORBIDDEN BROADWAY parody of ANYTHING GOES where there is that one line on the album that's hard to understand.

But speaking of her vocal coach, I loved that she did everything in GYPSY on an open vowel--it's the score that made Merman bust a blood vessel and miss shows, so a girl has to have some coping mechanism, and the open vowel was Patti's: Thaaa-tlaaa-ckih-staaa-raaah-taah-kaaah-baaaht-is-dyaaaue. (That lucky star I talk about is due.)

And also, she'd pop into mix just when you thought she was going to high belt. "we're gonna go THRAH WIT--(back to belt) tah-geh-thar!" Everything was carefully placed, yet she was able to act it fully. She's a pro, she has a solid technique, and I love her!

by Anonymousreply 14109/17/2010

Yeah, Patti LuPone's mushmouth is just a total myth, r125 and r141... I don't know WHAT people are talking about when they say it's hard to understand her!

by Anonymousreply 14209/17/2010

"Take me in letcha flood gimme sweet gimme lox watch me humming,

Shume me wutya blood wine me up witya nuts watch me coming!"

Why, every word I wrote for "Buenos Aires" is just as clear as a bell!

by Anonymousreply 14309/17/2010

I only know her from Data Lounge, but didn't she shill for a correspondence course on H SN?

by Anonymousreply 14409/17/2010

Tim:

When you write lyrics like "Rio de la Plata; Florida; Corientes; Nueve de Julio" (translation: La Plata River; Florida; Cut off the electricity; July 9th), maybe it's better that they CAN'T be understood

by Anonymousreply 14509/17/2010

RIIIIYO DEWWA PLAHHA

FLOREEEEAH

CORRRIENNAISE

NUEVA DUULIO,

ALLLI WANN' TUNOOOO....

by Anonymousreply 14609/17/2010

"Cut off the electricity; July 9th"%0D %0D %0D What does that mean?

by Anonymousreply 14709/17/2010

Rio de la Plata, Florida, Corrientes and Nueve de Julio are all major streets and avenues in Buenos Aires.

Nueve de Julio Avenue is named after the Argentine day of independence, July 9th.

by Anonymousreply 14809/17/2010

"Corrientes" not "Corientes"%0D %0D Rio de la Plata, Florida, Corrientes and 9 de Julio are avenues in Buenos Aires.

by Anonymousreply 14909/17/2010

R 135-If it's understudy L.R. I never heard her say anything negative about her experiences with LuPone. Granted I have heard other horror stories about Splatsy thru the years.

by Anonymousreply 15009/17/2010

Andrew left Vera's Broadway board because the girls refused to go along with his Patti fandom.%0D

by Anonymousreply 15109/17/2010

You are a fucking asshole, r151. Why are you posting personal information? %0D %0D What is wrong with you people? Seriously? Every time I make a post, you jerks have to post personal information about me.%0D %0D Now, I yet again have to ask the webmaster to shut this thread down. Thanks a lot, you jackass.

by Anonymousreply 15209/17/2010

"Why are you such a hateful, rage-filled person? And why are you such a bully?"%0D %0D That's how all of the Datalounge crowd are. Are you new?

by Anonymousreply 15309/17/2010

Did she sing Gypsy in the same key as Merman?

by Anonymousreply 15409/17/2010

I love R306. %0D %0D I love that the person having a meltdown and accusing us of acting like hateful, rage-filled person is acting like a hateful, rage filled person himself.%0D %0D WTF???!!!

by Anonymousreply 15509/17/2010

At B&N she mentioned that her favorite stars when she was growing up were Bette Davis and Edith Piaf. She paraphrased that "Barbra Streisand is the voice of the century...but with Piaf sang you felt that you were looking into her soul."

by Anonymousreply 15609/17/2010

Patti always resented being compared to Streisand and made a point of saying it in an interview in INTERVIEW, that she was "never a fan of Streisand's." I believe she stole lots from her, and not just the singing part. %0D %0D As far as her favorite musical star when she was growing up was Edith Piaf, um, please. That's like when someone claims to have been a Nina Simone fan, not a Dionne Warwick fan. Simone being the "serious" artist, you see. Being the age she is, I'll bet Patti's record collection was FULL of Petula Clark, Tom Jones and The Monkees.

by Anonymousreply 15709/17/2010

r155, some of the stuff you've posted has been rather unpleasant too.%0D %0D As I said, look in the mirror. You are no better than anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 15809/17/2010

So I finished the book... and I am an out Patti fan.

Yes, in her youth her diction was mushy. But, in "Gypsy" she was diction perfect.

The most interesting part of the book to me:

1. No mention of "Noises Off" whatsoever.

2. Her hurt with Glenn came because Glenn never reached out to her once during the Sunset drama. Patti wanted to know Glenn was not part of it.

3. Her brothers are twins. No mention about either's personal life or sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 15909/17/2010

r157

What are you talking about? Petula Clark had a very pleasing tone. She did NOT honk through her nose.

I remember reading LuP was a Harry Nilsson fan. I can't hear any of his influence in her singing. He did NOT oversing and he had a gorgeous tone.

by Anonymousreply 16009/17/2010

"As far as her favorite musical star when she was growing up was Edith Piaf, um, please. That's like when someone claims to have been a Nina Simone fan, not a Dionne Warwick fan. Simone being the "serious" artist, you see. Being the age she is, I'll bet Patti's record collection was FULL of Petula Clark, Tom Jones and The Monkees."%0D %0D The Patti-haters are grasping at straws now.

by Anonymousreply 16109/17/2010

Oh one other thing... Babs never recorded "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" to my knowledge. (Anyone know if that's a secret recording Barbra's holding out on us?)

I don't know why Patti was upset about that especially since well...everyone recorded the song -- Karen Carpenter, Olivia Newton John, etc and well before the US production.

by Anonymousreply 16209/17/2010

R159 What did she say about 'Life Goes On'. That was one of my favorite shows growing up.

by Anonymousreply 16309/17/2010

Rumors swirled that Streisand bought the rights to film EVITA. Not sure that that's true, but that wouldn't stop Patti from fuming. Her sense entitlement is staggering.%0D %0D R161, I think the individual is suggesting that Patti pretends to have a sophistaicated musical taste. I haen't seen her record collection, so I wouldn't know what her taste is.

by Anonymousreply 16409/17/2010

Lord. Nothing like a LuPone thread to, well, you know.

Here's a question. Many of us have not seen her on stage. We've seen her in clips from stage work and on TV from appearances. We've heard her recorded performances.

I've watched and listened and always found her to be "heavy" in an off-putting way. She doesn't lift me in her performances, as adept as she is. I'm going back to first experiences prior to any hearsay or myth sharing or gossip - just response. There just seem to be a laboring there that comes more from technical acumen and personal drive than from inspiration and the sprezzatura I associate with the most memorable performances (Again, I'm just talking about song-by-song performances with or without a video component).

My question is do you have to see her in person to judge her talent?

I never saw Merman on stage but I "got" her from TV and movies and audio recordings - she had that mix I'm talking about, as whacky as she was.

Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 16509/17/2010

A friend of mine says a huge joke is being played on us in this thread. There are two drag queens in his trailer park who are posting all of the 'I hate LuPone" comments in here. Ah ha! Caught in the act!

by Anonymousreply 16609/17/2010

I don't know about Gypsy, but as I said earlier, in Anything Goes, you could not understand a word she sang, which was why, at the performance I attended, so many people started laughing. Cole Porter lyrics are kind of important to his songs you know.%0D %0D As for that disco YouTube clip- still think she is one of the most arch and unattractive "talented" performers I have ever seen. I don't know if it is affectation or natural but her style, her mouth movements and shrill vocalizations and toss it off phrasing seem almost like she is in contempt of the material and her audience.

by Anonymousreply 16709/17/2010

I'd give anything to be at the Walnut St. Theatre right now. David Elder in Curtains. What a nice, nice guy and so talented.%0D %0D Now back to LuPone--- she is a bit top heavy, no?

by Anonymousreply 16809/17/2010

Different strokes for different folks, Charlie. Some people love her, some people hate her.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 16909/17/2010

Does she HONK due to all the cocaine abuse during the EVITA years?? %0D %0D Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 17009/17/2010

Absolutely R169. Her acting presentation is so different from her stage musical presentation. On film and on TV she comes across as normal, as a real character. On stage she is something of a monster almost- and as I said above, so affected. Guess you have to like the affectations, including trying to figure out what she is saying if you are not familiar with the song.

by Anonymousreply 17109/17/2010

I saw her in Evita and Anything Goes, and I understood her just fine. She doesn't translate well to TV and is hopless on records. I don't hate her.%0D %0D "What are you talking about? Petula Clark had a very pleasing tone"%0D %0D Sure, R160, but Petula Clark is not PIAF. Patti sees herself as a serious 'artiste.' That's why she's pissed-off at Streisand and not ONJ -- she sees herself at a higher level. She thinks her shit doesn't stink -- just like Streisand does.

by Anonymousreply 17209/17/2010

[quote]Your act hasn't changed much.

Neither has yours.

by Anonymousreply 17309/17/2010

Was LuP asked to take part in the 10th Anniversary "Dream" cast of Les Miserables?

by Anonymousreply 17409/17/2010

[quote]2. Her hurt with Glenn came because Glenn never reached out to her once during the Sunset drama. Patti wanted to know Glenn was not part of it.

That's a really, really good reason to be upset with someone. Because she didn't reach out during a drama that was not her making at all to say it was not her making at all.

I wonder if she was also upset at Billy Wilder and Nancy Olsen. They're part of the "Sunset" story too, and yet they never once reached out to her during her fight with ALW! How dare they! HOW DARE THEY!

by Anonymousreply 17509/17/2010

I saw her in the City Center "Gypsy" and I have to say her Rose's Turn was a huge dissapointment. Her scenes with Boyd Gaines were good, but I thought that Laura Benanati (sp?) owned that show.

by Anonymousreply 17609/17/2010

Patti's greatest performance on stage

by Anonymousreply 17709/17/2010

Even better.. The Patti LuPone remix!

by Anonymousreply 17809/17/2010

MORE!

by Anonymousreply 17909/17/2010

Question from a non-theatre person:

What happened between her and the Law & order people? She used to be on a few times a season for years, then nothing.

by Anonymousreply 18009/17/2010

She's a pain in the ass diva....what do you think happened

by Anonymousreply 18109/17/2010

Just watched that Tony clip of her doing Gypsy. Her singing has no colour, just volume, like she's trying to attack the audience with her voice.

In that scene, she also robs the audience of the response they're supposed to have - Rose isn't supposed to be breaking down. It's the very fact that she'll never change and has no awareness of the hurt she causes others that makes it so dramatic.

And then to get up there and just read off a list of people as long as the phone book. Ugh. I liked her GMA interview though. There is a personality there.

by Anonymousreply 18209/18/2010

I hate to be a party pooper but LuPone was pretty amazing singing "Everything's Coming Up Roses" last night on Jimmy Fallon's show. Standing ovation too.

by Anonymousreply 18309/18/2010

With all fairness, r 183, there is no more meaningless audience gesture than a standing ovation.

by Anonymousreply 18409/18/2010

Anything Goes was so weird. In the dialog scenes LuPone has such a strong feeling for the period and the humor. Then when she sang it all disappeared in a fog of swoops and "interpretation" all post-Streisand late 70s cheesiness.

If they would have cut the songs her performance would have been phenomenal.

She WAS great in the Doyle Sweeney Todd which was the most consistently best acted musical I have ever seen. So I have a feeling the direction had something to do with it. But she has never been that good in anything else.

by Anonymousreply 18509/18/2010

R143 has put the diction issue to rest. Was she going for maybe Argentine rural accent? It was eerily similar to the Greek accent she worked on Frasier.

by Anonymousreply 18609/18/2010

I've worked with both Patti and Raul and they are very similar.

Big-hearted people/performers who wear their hearts on their sleeves both on stage and off and need a strong director to guide and rein in their passions (on stage, at least).

They don't cautiously censor themselves and that's what I love about both of them.

Patti's book is terrific. She pulls no punches, can be self-deprecating but honest and is hilarious in all its many asides.

by Anonymousreply 18709/18/2010

is R187 a parody? heart-on-her sleeve? patti? lupone??? blood, maybe. heart, no.

by Anonymousreply 18809/18/2010

r188, it seems that r187 has stated that he/she WORKED with Patti LuPone. Have you? No, I thought not. So shut the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 18909/18/2010

[quote]They don't cautiously censor themselves and that's what I love about both of them.

I'll give you that. In that Gypsy (Tony) clip, whether or not I agree with her choices, you certainly couldn't accuse her of phoning it in. And Arthur Laurents certainly never lauded as a great director.

But watching her in that Charles Gibson interview where she's so warm and charming and vulnerable...why doesn't she dare to bring those qualities to the stage? That would seem a far greater risk than all that foghorn blowin' "singing" she's got going on.

Then again...she has had some hard knocks. Sunset Blvd., where it sounded like in the interview that she was still in the London production when they axed her for B'way. Is that true? Ouch.

Then that middle-aged retarded woman becomes a worldwide global phenomenon and scores a huge hit with the song she originated in Les Mis? Slap in the face. Aside from no one ever even joking that she's pretty? That's tough.

I would gladly never listen to her sing again but I'd love to see her in a Martin Scorsese film.

by Anonymousreply 19109/18/2010

R189=Patti Lupone

r190=one of her fat fans

by Anonymousreply 19209/18/2010

GO THE FUCK AWAY r192!!!!

by Anonymousreply 19309/18/2010

Here's a short two-hander with David Strathairn. I don't see anything special there, acting-wise.

by Anonymousreply 19409/18/2010

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARRRRE, r193?!

by Anonymousreply 19509/18/2010

R191, warmth and charm and vulnerability are not Rose.

Patti tends to get cast in brassy roles.

by Anonymousreply 19609/18/2010

r196

Those are the exacts qualities needed for Small World and You'll Never Get Away From Me, for example.

by Anonymousreply 19709/18/2010

Just to even the score.

by Anonymousreply 19809/18/2010

Patti, you've never looked lovelier!

by Anonymousreply 19909/18/2010

I think you Patti haters are all being cruel. I love her book. I keep copies of it in my guest bathroom. Along with scissors.

by Anonymousreply 20009/18/2010

R190 wrote to Vera yesterday complaining about all the shit being flung his way here. Vera writes an email to 15 people who post at her board, asking us to leave him alone because he's being hurt by the shit said here. And then RE190 says shit like...well, like he does at R190.

Poor baby can dish it out but absolutely cannot take it.

Dangerous and out-of-control. Who you gonna cry to now?

by Anonymousreply 20109/19/2010

I flipped through this mess at Barnes and Noble last night. So...she claimes that Eva Peron "spoke" to her during the production of Evita? She's really cunty about the guy that played her husband on Life Goes On, and about the show in general.

by Anonymousreply 20209/19/2010

I've worked with Patti twice. She is NOT big-hearted at all. She is vulgar and mean and insensitive.

She can be HILARIOUS when she's drunk, even when she's not drunk, but the booze takes away a little of the mean edge that is always there when she's sober.

by Anonymousreply 20309/19/2010

Photos from Patti's book launch party

by Anonymousreply 20409/19/2010

Then again...she has had some hard knocks. Sunset Blvd., where it sounded like in the interview that she was still in the London production when they axed her for B'way. Is that true? Ouch.

Oh for fuck's sake: cry us a river.

by Anonymousreply 20509/19/2010

With those hips, she's a lock for the lead in "Precious: A Musical by Andrew Lloyd Webber Based on the Novel 'Push' by Sapphire"!

by Anonymousreply 20609/19/2010

Her shit stinks. It's true. I read it on the internet.

by Anonymousreply 20709/19/2010

R201 really is a sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 20809/19/2010

Arguably the best part of the memoir so far (I'm only half-way through):

In 1982, after starring in "Evita," she gets terrible reviews when she appears as Rosalind in Liviu Ciulei's production of "As You Like It" at the Guthrie Theater in Minneapolis. To what does she attribute this calamity?

"After three months there, I had learned the Guthrie was cursed, that Minneapolis's sister city of St. Paul is considered the occult center of the United States, and that Minneapolis was a stronghold of the Mafia."

by Anonymousreply 20909/19/2010

r210 is a NFSW picture of a nude guy presenting his hole.

by Anonymousreply 21109/19/2010

That "Buenos Aires" clip sounds like Esperanto, or Jodie Foster's language from "Nell." Or a dead language.

by Anonymousreply 21209/20/2010

I want more Life Goes on stories from book! Please.

by Anonymousreply 21309/20/2010

Is Patti supposed to be playing a hooker in that film clip? Who on earth would pay for that? And I had no idea her ass was that huge as far back as 2001. I thought Patti the Fatty was a more recent condition.

by Anonymousreply 21409/20/2010

At a guess I'd say a lot of these posts come from ATC Patti hater "Roman". Geez he never lets up.Seems to think he has to weigh in to every discussion but there again at ATC that's the norm.

by Anonymousreply 21509/20/2010

I hate Patti, but that's because I've worked with the evil thing. But I'm not "Roman." And I don't post at ATC.

Let's face it, when one is as, uh, "passionate" as Patti is, one leaves acquires a lot of people who dislikes one.

by Anonymousreply 21609/20/2010

Didn't she go NUDE once on TV?

by Anonymousreply 21709/20/2010

Is his name Roman? I thought it was Romaine.

by Anonymousreply 21809/20/2010

What the fuck are you all bitching about? She's dishing dirt. Isn't that what you come here for?

by Anonymousreply 21909/20/2010

I seem to remember a friend telling me that he saw her in "The Robber Bridegroom" and at one point in the show she was naked and tied up.

by Anonymousreply 22009/20/2010

Yes, in The Robber Bridgroom, the character Rosamund is nude.

by Anonymousreply 22109/20/2010

Patti appeared undraped and exposed her breasts (for the world to see) in the movie SUMMER OF SAM.

Unfortunately, she did NOT play one of Sam's victims.

by Anonymousreply 22209/20/2010

What did she do in the Summer of Sam? What was her character?

by Anonymousreply 22309/20/2010

Ms. Lupone on Jimmy Fallon singing and schmoozing.

by Anonymousreply 22409/20/2010

She was on Morning Joe this am. Watch link (it's after the commercial).

by Anonymousreply 22509/20/2010

R223- She played Adrien Brody's mother

From the July 2, 1999 NY Times review of SUMMER OF SAM re Ms. LuPone's performance...

"Patti LuPone vamps frighteningly as Ritchie's slatternly mother."

by Anonymousreply 22609/20/2010

Mondo will cut you for getting coffee on the crepe de chine.

by Anonymousreply 22709/20/2010

I want to see Splatsy's tits.

by Anonymousreply 22809/20/2010

So, I'm reading the book. As I've said, I've worked with her, and seen the monster. But I've seen her being funny, too.

The book is total dish, it should be required DL reading.

And she speaks completely lovingly of Chris Burke - I can't believe the story that she refused to act with him. More likely, from the stories, it was Smitrovich who did that. She's the only one she trashes from the show - she says they had zero chemistry and he was an asshole from the first audition together.

by Anonymousreply 22909/20/2010

Broadway and the world have really changed, when Merman was 61 (Patti LuPone's current age) she was preparing to star as the last Dolly in "Hello, Dolly" and call it a career after 40 year on Broadway.

LuPone is preparing to co star in "Women on the Verge on A Nervous Breakdown," and may have another 20+ on stage.

Two women who would seem to have some things in common, but Merman was all but born a star. It took LuPone decades and decades to reach the same level (if indeed she has).

by Anonymousreply 23009/20/2010

[quote]And she speaks completely lovingly of Chris Burke - I can't believe the story that she refused to act with him.

It was Chris's first acting experience and I don't think he understood the concept of stand ins, used when the other actor is off or not available.

by Anonymousreply 23209/20/2010

Chris Burke said in his autobiography that Patti LuPone used a stand-in when doing scenes together.

From his book - "A Special Kind of Hero", Chris Burke and Jo Beth McDaniel Page 205 - 206.

By the second season, the honeymoon was over between Chris and some of his co-workers. Patti LuPone for one was frustrated because Chris always doesn't know his lines.

When Patti has her coverage - when the camera is trained on her in a close-up that will be edited into the master scenes - she asks Kaley (Chris's acting coach) to sit in for Chris and read his lines for him. She doesn't like to depend on Chris to provide rhythms, consistency, or diction for the scene, which have to be consistent in all shots. Normally every actor in the scene stays on the set, off camera, delivering their lines and acting their parts to help the actor in the close-up re-create the reactions and emotions.

by Anonymousreply 23309/20/2010

There is nothing wrong in Patti using a stand in. It's standard practice and giving that Chris had special needs, it made sense.

by Anonymousreply 23409/21/2010

Photo at R231 is NSFW!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 23509/21/2010

It's not standard practice AT ALL, R234. It's only cunts like Mariska Hargitay and LuPone who demand stand-ins be used, however in Hargitay's case it's so that she can go home early or hang out in her dressing room/trailer and let somebody else be on her mark when the day player has his/her coverage.

by Anonymousreply 23609/21/2010

Bea Lillie tells a wonderful story on how Julie Andrews came in on of her rare days-off on 'Thoroughly Modern Millie" to provide Bea Lillie her coverage on the film, when they were doing her close-ups.

by Anonymousreply 23709/21/2010

Bea Lillie had alzheimers, and Andrews stood off from the cameras to feed her the lines. Mary Tyler moore told that same story in her book "After all". Because she had to do the same thing when a drunk Betty Ford guest starred and couldn't remember anything.

by Anonymousreply 23809/21/2010

Unlike some people we know.

Julie could have used a stand-in (she was nursing her baby at the same time) but didn't.

by Anonymousreply 23909/21/2010

[quote]It's not standard practice AT ALL, [R234]. It's only cunts like Mariska Hargitay and LuPone who demand stand-ins be used, however in Hargitay's case it's so that she can go home early or hang out in her dressing room/trailer and let somebody else be on her mark when the day player has his/her coverage.

Dude, chill, it's not a myth. They are called stand ins. They are on the payroll. They exist and are used on every production. TV stars use them so they can go home because most hour long shows film for 12, 14 sometimes 16 hours. Why should Patti just stand there when Chris needed extra time to do his job when she probably had to be back on set first thing in the morning. That's one of the things a stand in is for.

by Anonymousreply 24009/21/2010

But Patti didn't use a stand-in for any of the other actors she was doing scenes with. Just Chris Burke.

And when is okay to leave the other actor holding the bag, reacting to their lines with not the other actor, but a stand-in.

Stand-ins should only be used for lighting.

by Anonymousreply 24109/21/2010

"But Patti didn't use a stand-in for any of the other actors she was doing scenes with. Just Chris Burke."

Where do you get your information? Were you on the production crew?

If not, then stfu because you have no proof and just want to find something to bitch and moan about.

by Anonymousreply 24209/21/2010

It was actually Carol Channing who wrote about Julie coming in on her day off to do off-camera lines for her.

by Anonymousreply 24309/21/2010

R242 Did you read the quote from R233?

It was clearly spelled out in Chris Burke's book.

by Anonymousreply 24409/21/2010

[italic]What's new, darling Patti?

You're blue, but you oughtta know we all think the world of you

Is it true you'll sue?

It's just business, little Patti

Stand Back! Think about what the world really wants to see

Broadway's Norma, ME! [/italic]

by Anonymousreply 24509/21/2010

Rebecca Caine, the original Cosette, today tweeted:

"How maaarvelous Patti LuPone has now added fiction writing to her long list of accomplishments."

by Anonymousreply 24609/22/2010

I have a question about her Les Miz days. In her stage show, she tells the story of once being late for her last entrance. Is that a true story? Weren't there any stage managers around that noticed that she wasn't in the wings?

by Anonymousreply 24709/22/2010

What did she say that is untrue about Rebecca Caine?

by Anonymousreply 24809/23/2010

Nothing specific about her, but that she is re-writing history about Les Miz.

by Anonymousreply 24909/23/2010

I read the book, and I'm trying to think what Patti could have said about Les Miz that Caine could be referring to... As I remember, the Les Miz part was pretty innocuous.

by Anonymousreply 25009/23/2010

My favorite Patti moment is that point on the Evita recording, where she goes way down to sing the last note of "Buenos Aires" and sounds like a MOOSE. Since age 12 I've laughed myself silly at that.

by Anonymousreply 25209/24/2010

In the EVITA chapters, LuPone RANTS about her alternate, who she claim s was "standing in the wings like ALL ABOUT EVE" waiting for her to fail so that she could go on.

Though she never names her, she makes the alternate seem devious, BLAMING her for going on when LuPone's untrained vocal cords gave out on the road, getting a good review, and posting it in the basement of the theatre,

The alternate was Terri Klausner. I'm just curious if there was any corroborating info floating around about this among the Bway flip-flop wearing chorus queens or if a delusionally paranoid LuPone was making this stuff up.

by Anonymousreply 25309/24/2010

I have the final audio sound board recordings of both Evita and Sunset w/Patti.

A quick listen to them reveals that her 'ovations' and 'show stops' are clearly untrue. She got a one minute and 33 second ovation on her first entrance. 1 min for 41 seconds after as if we've ever said goodbye solo.

She is looking through rose colored glasses.

by Anonymousreply 25409/24/2010

r210/231 needs to stop posting the NSFW hole-presenting picture here. There are threads for that.

by Anonymousreply 25509/24/2010

I think the Les Miz "rewrite" refers to patti saying how much she loved the company and they loved her. Nothing much more than that.

by Anonymousreply 25609/24/2010

R256, that is part of it; also that she was not offered Broadway as she has claimed for years.

by Anonymousreply 25709/24/2010

Patti wasn't offered LES MIZ on Broadway, r257?? Do you know this for a fact?

Why, did they not like her performance? Or her backstage behavior?

Or that they wanted her but she demanded more money than they were willing to pay?

by Anonymousreply 25809/24/2010

r253 I thought the understudy stuff was her paranoia but once I read heard Klausner from a reliable source. She supposedly had a great deal of difficulty accepting her place as just the matinee Eva. When she was hired she thought it would be more equal and she was very depressed that all the attention and press went to Lupone. She was a constant source of anger towards Lupone and since she was a member of the chorus also she spent a great deal of time in the dressing rooms bad mouthing Lupone.

People deny it but my source says she was eventually fired from the show and never allowed to assume the role post-Lupone. My source says she just could never get past her resentment of how she was treated and there was even an incident (which lead to the firing) where she bumped into Lupone during a stage exit and then mouthed off to Lupone blaming her for the crash. Her language upset Lupone mid show which stage management didn't like.

by Anonymousreply 25909/24/2010

You're pretty accurate, r259, but Terri Klausner is a sweet girl. Patti being Patti, she was nasty from the beginning- particularly threatened because Klausner was a dancer and aced "Buenos Aires," whereas Patti isn't a dancer and the number was torture for her (she fell on her ass during it several times in LA, including opening night.)

So, yeah, by the time the show was running in LA, Terri didn't have much good to say about Patti. (Terri also had no problem with the songs the way Patti did, either)

By the time of the "incident," Patti had her Tony and was a star, and she insisted Terri be fired. Which is what happened.

by Anonymousreply 26009/24/2010

R253- Broadway historian Alan Scott should have the scoop on Klausner as alternate Eva.Do you post on ATC? If so, you might ask there. I believe she was fired. I know Derin Altay and Nancy Opal were the other alternates after Terri.

by Anonymousreply 26109/25/2010

Patti would pinch those children backstage during GYPSY. She wanted them to be afraid of her.

by Anonymousreply 26209/25/2010

261 - LuPoone refers to the actress who was alternate while they were on the road in Los Angeles and San Francisco -- that was Klausner. I Imagine she must have gotten along with Nancy Opel -- they did GYPSY at City Center together. Of course, that casting could have been Arther Laurents deliberately being a nasty old mind-fucker.

by Anonymousreply 26309/25/2010

If Terri could sing and dance the role better than Patti, why would she never have been given the role. Hal Prince and Broadway producers are not that sympathetic. Some part of the story is missing.

by Anonymousreply 26409/25/2010

If Terri Klausner is such a sweet girl, why did she post her glowing reviews of 'Evita' right next to Patti LuPone's harsh reviews side by side on the cast bulletin board?

by Anonymousreply 26509/25/2010

r265

She didn't. Other members of the chorus did.

by Anonymousreply 26609/25/2010

[quote]If Terri could sing and dance the role better than Patti, why would she never have been given the role.

Try thinking this through, cupcake. Singing, dancing - and ACTING. LuPone acted it better, even if her she had difficulty with the singing at the beginning and the dancing pretty much always.

This was clear at the closing LA performance when LuPone didn't finish the show. Terri sang and danced the part dynamically, but her acting chops weren't as developed as LuPone's.

by Anonymousreply 26709/25/2010

Patti also lies when she says Hal Prince came back and told them how much better the LA company was.

What WAS true was that Patti had another one of her screaming fits when Loni Ackerman's reviews came out, and they were all raves. Ackerman, being a dancer, was able to triumph in Buenos Aires rather than be done in by it. And she was a better actress than Terri K - so she was the real deal.

Vocally, I liked Terri best, Patti second, and Loni third. But Loni brought an ease to performing the role that Patti didn't have in LA, and the LA critics only had Patti's LA performance to compare it to.

by Anonymousreply 26809/25/2010

Patti is a good actress, but she could never play Norma Desmond the way ALW wanted her to play the part. She made her very vulnerable and human and victimized--ALW wanted the kind of predatory gargoyle Glenn Close played. It made the show much more interesting if you are creeped out by Norma as well as pity her.

by Anonymousreply 26909/25/2010

Wasn't Lupone close to getting fired during previews because the producers thought she wasn't up to par?

by Anonymousreply 27009/25/2010

If only Equity hadn't blocked Elaine Page from recreating the "Evita" role on Broadway, we would not have been in this mess.

by Anonymousreply 27109/25/2010

But R269- that is EXACTLY how Betty Lynn Buckley played it-- vulnerbale and victimized. I saw Close, Buckley, Elaine Paige and Pet Clark. By far my favorite was Ms. Paige-- she gave the role some humour that was missing from the other interpretations. If I went in order--

Best -- Elaine Paige channeling Gloria Swanson. Sang the hell out of the score.

Second runner up-- Betty Buckley-- the little wounded sparrow. Sang it well.

Third place -- Glenn Close -- garish and mad as a hatter. Not a singer. It was Fatal Attraction 1950.

Fourth place -- Petula Clark -a vulgar Brooklyn Norma Desmond. I saw the *lite* tour which had it's problems. However, I have a bootleg video with Ms. Clark from London with all the A. Lloyd Webber- Trevor Nunn- John Napier trappings and she was sensational...

The one I wish I had seen- Diahann Carroll in Toronto with sexy Rex Smith as Joe Gillis.

by Anonymousreply 27209/25/2010

Glenn Close was only offered the role because Diana Ross turned it down.

by Anonymousreply 27309/25/2010

Anyone see Kathryn Evans do it in London recently? There's a video of her on YT and she looks remarkably like Swanson.

by Anonymousreply 27409/25/2010

Diana Ross or Diana Rigg?

by Anonymousreply 27509/25/2010

She calls (Chaim) Topol a "douchebag". She accuses him of feeling her tit at their first meeting, and of sleeping with two of the chorus girls in BAKER'S WIFE.

Oh, and for the person who mentioned that she Patti pissed at Glenn Close for not "reaching out to her" after Patti was fired from SUNSET, it might be worth noting that Pati didn't reach out to Carole Demas after she was fired from BAKER'S WIFE and Patti took over. Karma's a bitch and so, apparently is Patti.

by Anonymousreply 27609/26/2010

[quote]If Terri could sing and dance the role better than Patti, why would she never have been given the role. Hal Prince and Broadway producers are not that sympathetic. Some part of the story is missing.

Regardless of how you feel about Patti, she has "IT". People pay to see her on stage and have been for three decades. The only people who ever paid to see Terri Klausner onstage was Ma and Pa Klausner and if they were smart, would have bought Standing Room.

by Anonymousreply 27709/26/2010

r277 - Every Wednesday and Saturday matinee audience paid to see Terri Klausner for the first year of EVITA's Broadway run. That would be 104 performances. Assuming the show was 3/4 full at those shows (It holds 1,765 seats, so 3/4 would be 1,324), the total number of folks who enjoyed Terri Klausner as Evita would be 137,696 … considerably more than just Mom and Pop.

I'm also available to do math problems that begin "If a train leaves Los Angeles traveling 70 miles per hour … "

by Anonymousreply 27809/26/2010

My daughter Loni was a better Eva than all of them combined!!

by Anonymousreply 27909/26/2010

R276 you and Patti have it wrong.

Patti actually replaced Loni Ackerman in The Bakers Wife. Ackerman replaced Carole Demes.

Since Patti doesn't want to mention the name 'Loni Ackerman', due to the backstage shenanigans at Evita, she conveniently left this piece of history out of 'The Baker's Wife'.

The issue whether Patti called Loni, you'd have ask either of the two women, as neither woman wants to say each others name.

by Anonymousreply 28009/26/2010

How many chorus boys does it take to fill a thread?

by Anonymousreply 28109/26/2010

Why were Demas & Ackmerman fired from Baker's Wife?

by Anonymousreply 28209/26/2010

(280), wrong. Loni was never in "The Baker's Wife". Patti and Loni both auditioned to replace Carol Demas. The director wanted Loni while the composer/lyricist wanetd Patti. Guess who won?

by Anonymousreply 28309/26/2010

For a non-cunt, Carole Demas sure got fired from a lot of Broadway shows!

by Anonymousreply 28409/26/2010

Not according to Theater Historian Ken Mandelbaum R283.

He writes in his book 'Not Since Carrie' Patti LuPone replaced Ackerman who replaced Demas.

I'll take his word over yours.

by Anonymousreply 28509/26/2010

[285], Ken Mandelbaum is never wrong?!?!? What a laugh. Sorry, but Loni Ackerman was never in "The Baker's Wife". Ken dropped the ball on this one.

by Anonymousreply 28609/26/2010

You're full of shit, r286. Loni Ackerman NEVER played the role in "The Baker's Wife.". Demas was fired after a week, and Teri Ralston (who understudied) played the role for a week while Patti rehearsed. Ralston had to wear her "Denise"'character outfits the first couple of days because Demas' firing was so sudden and she didn't have her understudy costumes yet.

And Teri Ralston is the "older actress" of the two women who were having affairs with Topol. Ralston is the one who was actually in love with him. (And Ralston was actually only 33-34 at the time).

LuPone lies about so much in the book, but leaving Ackerman out of Baker's Wife was no lie.

You should never take Ken Mandelbaum as the gospel truth. He's full of shit, too.

by Anonymousreply 28709/26/2010

I can't believe someone would quote Ken Mandelbaum as an "authority." His goof about Ackerman and "The Baker's Wife" is only one of several mistakes in his book.

Where he got it from was an article about Patti circa 1980, that said she "replaced Carole Demas, and was herself replaced by Loni Ackerman, as the Baker's Wife."

Mandelbaum knew that the part about LuPone getting replaced was wrong - that she closed the show - so in typical sloppy fashion he just assumed it was backward and that she replaced Ackerman, and that's what he printed.

Ask Loni herself - she'll tell you she never got further than learning "Meadowlark" and the original version of "Gifts of Love" for the callbacks.

by Anonymousreply 28809/27/2010

It's great that Loni bounced back with a four year stint on WKRP.

Hope she took Burt Reynolds to the cleaners.

by Anonymousreply 28909/27/2010

[quote]I can't believe someone would quote Ken Mandelbaum as an "authority."

Oooh, Sissy Broadway queen THROW DOWN!

by Anonymousreply 29009/27/2010

Loni lost the part but got her revenge when she opened the LA company of Evita only four months after Patti's Broadway opening and got the kind of reviews Patti couldn't generate with her Eva.

by Anonymousreply 29109/27/2010

To move on.......does Patti's husband Matt still work as a cameraman or in any other aspect of film/TV?

by Anonymousreply 29209/27/2010

So Loni did both WKRP and Evita at the same time in LA?

by Anonymousreply 29309/27/2010

[quote]Loni lost the part but got her revenge when she opened the LA company of Evita only four months after Patti's Broadway opening and got the kind of reviews Patti couldn't generate with her Eva.

And that fact got Loni what exactly?

by Anonymousreply 29409/27/2010

"Loni lost the part but got her revenge when she opened the LA company of Evita only four months after Patti's Broadway opening and got the kind of reviews Patti couldn't generate with her Eva."

Her revenge? That's a laugh. Which actress walked out of Evita a Broadway star, despite reviews? Hmm?

by Anonymousreply 29509/27/2010

She got noticed by the producers of WKRP and had four successful years on a hit sitcom, with an Emmy nod to boot!

by Anonymousreply 29609/27/2010

I was sitting down, and glad of it, yesterday, when someone I respect a great deal told me that the book is very good.

by Anonymousreply 29709/27/2010

Now that I've just finished the book I have to say I'm a little stunned at how much anger, revenge and bitterness Patti carries with her. I mean, at this late date what's the point of calling Bill Smitrovich or Paul Sorvino douchebags, blaming Glenn Close for insensitivity or practically naming the girls who slept with Topol? Does that make Patti a happier, better person?

I was also shocked by how often she received bad reviews by various critics from the NY Times.

by Anonymousreply 29809/27/2010

I agree with you, r298. On the one hand, it's fun in a dishy way, but on the other hand - every single story is the same. Good experience becomes bad and "painful" for Patti because of "backstage backstabbing" or some such. The only experiences she holds apart are the Doyle Sweeney and Gypsy.

I would think her editor would have told her "do you know how bitter and negative you appear in this?"

by Anonymousreply 29909/27/2010

Isn't/wasn't Teri Ralston a soprano? Could she belt as well?

by Anonymousreply 30009/27/2010

Yes, she could belt (don't know if she still can). There are soundboard recordings of her Genevieve. She went up during "Meadowlark" in the first performance she did of it.

She doesn't have the kind of exciting "tension" in her belt that LuPone (and Merman, et al) have - but she's able to do it. She does some nice phrasing in "Meadowlark" - different from what Patti did.

by Anonymousreply 30109/27/2010

Even Anything Goes, initially a happy experience for which she received glowing reviews and married her husband on the show's set, becomes a tiresome trial for her as she tells us about the lack of professionalism of the chorus in a long run.

by Anonymousreply 30209/27/2010

[quote]I would think her editor would have told her "do you know how bitter and negative you appear in this?"

That would be like Ann Coulter's editor telling her, "do you know how shrill and unhinged you appear in this?"

by Anonymousreply 30309/27/2010

Nancy Opel also went into ANYTHING GOES as a replacement Hope.

Met her once, she seems like a great gal

She was not a great Evita

by Anonymousreply 30409/27/2010

There's a YoutTube clip of Nancy Opel doing Rainbow High on the Rosie Cruise. Wretched.

by Anonymousreply 30509/27/2010

Kathryn Evans was brillant in SUNSET. She was very middle-aged Elizabeth Taylor/older Vivien Leigh in appearance. The production surprisingly worked.

She is a too little known talent. I have seen her in secondary roles (ANYHING GOES,MACK & MABEL)and saw her go on for Paige in ANYHING GOES.

I've a closing night audio of Act 2 of EVITA with Evans. She's thrilling!

by Anonymousreply 30609/27/2010

I still want to see Splatsy's fun bags.

Where's the pic of her tits? Are they so bad not one of her fans screen capped her movie nude scenes?

by Anonymousreply 30709/27/2010

Loni Anderson was in Evita? I didn't even know she could sing.

by Anonymousreply 30809/27/2010

R307 At one time the pics were posted on That's All Chat. I tried looking for them but can't find them. It was a picture of Patti reclining on a bed with her bosom exposed. She was undraped.. totally undraped.

by Anonymousreply 30909/27/2010

Ralston did GYPSY in stock. She was all wrong for Rose. This was 13 years ago, maybe more.

by Anonymousreply 31009/27/2010

Hmmm, LuPone suddenly started complaining about the "unprofessionalism" of the chorus in ANYTHING GOES shortly after she lost the Tony Award. Gee, I wonder if maybe she was manufacturing a reason to leave.

Nice of her to say that Joanna Gleason, the Tony WINNER that year, looked like The Tin Man in her awards dress.

by Anonymousreply 31109/27/2010

Here's Gleason's dress

by Anonymousreply 31209/27/2010

Well, Joanna does look a little like the Tin Man! Ron Silver looks kinda hot!!!

by Anonymousreply 31309/27/2010

What's the most appropriate nickname for Patti?

Splatty LuPone (her voice)?

Catty LuPone (lots of proof in her memoir)

Fatty LuPone (evidence is overwhelming)

Scatty LuPone (are THOSE rumors true?)

Splatsy LuPone (What about those rumors?)

Chatty LuPone (too friendly for her)

Ratty LuPone (anyone who's ever worked with her probably likes this one)

by Anonymousreply 31409/28/2010

[quote]The only story I've heard that I didn't like was the way she treated Chris Burke on "Life Goes on". But Patti says that she gets too professional sometimes and that it's a fault of hers.

"If I have one fault, it's just that sometimes I care...Too. Damn. Much."

by Anonymousreply 31509/28/2010

I notice Patti qualified it - IF I have one fault.

Because, of course, in her mind she has none!

by Anonymousreply 31609/28/2010

She's hideous.

by Anonymousreply 31709/29/2010

I remember John Simon called her "Patti LuPone, with the lupine face."

by Anonymousreply 31809/29/2010

her husband hasn't worked since the wedding.

by Anonymousreply 31909/29/2010

In the memoir, LuPone admits to losng her voice:

- after the first orchestra rehearsal for EVITA in L.A.: pg 116

- in the middle of the final performance of evita in L.A. (her alternate did Act 2: pg 120

-before opening night of EVITA in San Francisco: pg 121

- after she burst a blood vessel doing ANYTHING GOES: pg 252

- during the London production of SUNSET BLVD: pg 252

- doing her concert at the Westwood Playhouse in 1993: pg 252

Funny that Patti has never suffered the bad press for being out of a show because she ruined her voice the way, say, Donna Murphy and Bernadette Peters have. I wonder why that is. For a great big beautiful Broadway STAH, she sure fucked up her voice a LOT!

by Anonymousreply 32009/29/2010

Now if only she'd lose her voice permanently.

by Anonymousreply 32109/29/2010

I just finished the book. I used to be a huge LuPone fan, but man - she comes across as being thoroughly unlikeable in this. The anger at everyone else - never taking responsibility for her own behavior. She tries to come across as the "first lady of the American theathaaa", whose talent knows no bounds due to her training - but ends up sounding like a 10 year old kid who goes to the teacher and tells on everybody in the playground.

by Anonymousreply 32209/30/2010

Now that we've discussed how often she loses her voice, by her own admission, now let's talk about her professionalism:

1) She almost delayed film-shooting for Steven Spielberg's 1941 in Cali because she flew to NYC for an audition during a blizzard.

2) She almost missed a performance of SUNSET in London because she flew to NYC to attend a funeral for a friend she hadn't seen in 30 years.

3) She pretended to be unavailable for blocking rehearsals of LES MIZ in London so she wouldn't have to be in certain scenes.

4) She missed an entrance during a performance of LES MIZ in London because she turned off the intercom since she "she got tired of listening to the score" and the company of the RSC hissed her during the curtain call.

5) She walked out of LES MIZ in London for three days because they used a recording of her voice without her permission (AEA explicitly says that an actor is NOT to walk out of a performance for any reason without union mediation first -- this puts the actor in breach of contract).

6) She walked out of SUNSET in London for three days because they used a recording of her voice without her permission (AEA explicitly says that an actor is NOT to walk out of a performance for any reason without union mediation first -- this puts the actor in breach of contract).

And these are just the incidents she fesses up to. There's no mention of her walking offstage at the curtain call of NOISES OFF when they were collecting donations for BC/EFA and hurling something at the stage manager (in fact, there's no mention of NOISES OFF at all). There's no mention of stopping "Rose's Turn" to loudly berate someone for taking flash photos at GYPSY -- even after it turned out the photographer was a professional who was doing a magazine shoot on her!

by Anonymousreply 32309/30/2010

Well smell missy at r323. Probably a struggling, jealous actor. Face it cunt, she's a star, not you. And that KILLS you.

I take her worth a grain of salt. She's nothing if not constantly fascinating.

by Anonymousreply 32409/30/2010

"even after it turned out the photographer was a professional who was doing a magazine shoot on her!"

No, that is not true. That was a myth. And people who dislike her can't accept that. They just WANT to hate her so much that they delude themselves into thinking that this rumor is true. It. Is. Not.

by Anonymousreply 32509/30/2010

r323, by her own admission, once during Evita, she came offstage and started screaming at the stage manager because it was hot and there were no fans backstage.

by Anonymousreply 32609/30/2010

r 324: But you're not disputing any of r 323's statements are you? %0D %0D You doi Lupone fans a disservice with your infantile, petulant name-calling.

by Anonymousreply 32709/30/2010

Well, was the photographer during Rose's Turn hired to professionally shoot her or not? In any case it was definitely management's fault not to inform Patti that it was happening. What's the truth there?

by Anonymousreply 32809/30/2010

Although she bemoans the premature closings of several of her shows, she's obviously proven (even by her own admission) that she doesn't do well with long runs.

by Anonymousreply 32909/30/2010

r324 & 325 = Josh Johnston, Patti's son. He's his mother's daughter.

by Anonymousreply 33009/30/2010

[quote]Probably a struggling, jealous actor. Face it cunt, she's a star, not you. And that KILLS you.

This is always the dumbest attack tactic to take on Datalounge--it always amazes me when die-hard fans take it.

Disliking a performer has nothing to do with envy of their fame. This will come as a shock to the narcissistic actors and performers on Datalounge, but most people who follow entertainment do not wish to be entertainers themselves.

by Anonymousreply 33109/30/2010

You MUST name your source(s), smarty pants.

by Anonymousreply 33209/30/2010

I do like her recipe for Italian chicken soup grom her website. Hearty fare.%0D %0D Her? Not so much.

by Anonymousreply 33309/30/2010

R323 you are taking a lot of things in the book out of context, not even giving Patti's side of the story.

On top of everything else, you forgot to write about the fact Patti refused to do scenes with Chris Burke from Life Goes On, employing a stand-in to feed Chris lines when the camera wasn't on her.

by Anonymousreply 33409/30/2010

Cunt. Was, is and always shall be. The end.

by Anonymousreply 33509/30/2010

While she was doing Evita, she was also doing her club act at Les Mouches. People say that she would phone in her performance at Evita so that she could use all her energy at Les Mouches.

by Anonymousreply 33609/30/2010

Wasn't she high on coke during that time she had that engagement at Les Mouches?

by Anonymousreply 33709/30/2010

Yes. Patti's coke use during EVITA also played a part in the "incident" that led to Patti demanding that Terri Klausner be fired.

Rebecca Caine was the first, but she won't be the last. Expect more of the people who have worked with her to start talking about the fictions in her memoirs, and her thoroughly hateful behavior.

by Anonymousreply 33809/30/2010

R324 = that nutjob in philly.

by Anonymousreply 33910/01/2010

Actually I don't dislike Patti at all. I have loved every performance I've ever seen her in: EVITA, MASTER CLASS, GYPSY and both her concerts at Lincoln Center.

However it's possible to love the performer, and still think she's an entitled bitch who takes no responsibility for her own actions. She's amazing to watch and, now that Joan Lader has gotten her to stop yodeling, to listen to. That doesn't make her history of bad behavior any less disgusting.

In response to the GYPSY flash photography incident, Lupone wrote to Dave Itzkoff of the NY Times ArtsBeat blog, and her letter was published online. In part, she asked: "Do we allow our rights to be violated (photography, filming and audio taping of performances is illegal) or tolerate rudeness by members of the audience who feel they have the right to sit in a dark theater, texting or checking their e-mail while the light from their screens distract both performers and the audience alike? Or, should I stand up for my rights as a performer as well as the audiences I perform for?"

That's a great start for a debate. Here are my thoughts: An audience member may be paying anywhere from $60-150 for a ticket to a show. Routinely, audience members do any number of things that might be considered a distraction to a performer: get up to go to the bathroom; adjust their infra-red hearing device; turn the pages of the Playbill to determine who has been singing. Are the theatre police supposed to monitor these "distractions" as well? "I'm sorry ma'am, Ms. Lupone doesn't allow patrons to go to the rest room -- she'd rather have you piss your seat." In her book Ms. Lupone talks about an incident where a patron had a heart attack during a performance -- was she annoyed over his disregard for her talents by having the audacity to drop dead in the theatre? How gracious. Stars, like Ms. Lupone, are paid exceptionally well to focus and do their job. There are over 1,000 people per night who attend a show, if it is doing well. Perhaps if Ms. Lupone was less worried about the man in row K checking his email, and more invested in giving a performance everyone might be the happier.

by Anonymousreply 34010/01/2010

r334 - The incidents I mentioned are all taken DIRECTLY from her memoir. Therefore, they ARE her side of the story.

Oh, and in the book she says absolutely nothing about using a stand-in in her scenes with Chris Burke in LIFE GOES ON, so why would I mention it? The section that deals with the TV show (pages 198-202) she rips the show's director Rick Rosenthal whose endless shooting, she says "took the cast on his descent into TV hell." Of TV husband Bill Smitrovitch she calls him a "self absorbed bully"; about his performances, she says, "he stunk". Of Chris Burke she says, he is a "champion, the septets heart, and an angel". There is not a word in this memoir that says she used a stand-in for her scenes with Burke, unless I missed it. Care to cite a page number?

by Anonymousreply 34110/01/2010

The Chris Burke quote should read "he is a "champion, the sweetest heart, and an angel".

by Anonymousreply 34210/01/2010

Did she know TR Knight was gay when they were doing "Noises Off"?

by Anonymousreply 34310/01/2010

It's in Chris Burke's auto bio where he mentions that Patti used a stand-in in all his coverage of scenes with her. If you'd bothered reading the thread, you would have seen it referenced, with the exact quote.

by Anonymousreply 34410/01/2010

344 - My post has to do with what's in LuPone's memoir -- which, if you bothered to look at the top of the page, is what this thread is about.

I'm sure Chris Burke's book is an interesting book, but most likely written with a ghost writer or a collaborator since he didn't have the capacity to memorize more than a few lines at a time. So I'd take anything that's in his book with a grain of salt, just as I take everything in LuPone's book with a grain of salt because she is a self-serving bitch with an agenda :-)

With all that salt, I'll be retaining water for a week.

by Anonymousreply 34510/01/2010

Yeah, you can spin it any way you like - oh, it was written with a ghost writer, or he didn't have the capacity to learn lines, take it with a grain of salt. Oh, it wasn't in Patti's book itself so it's not pertinent to this thread.

The point, FUCKHEAD, is that Patti the CUNT treated him like shit - the same way she treats 3/4 of the people she works with. (Yeah, I know - I was there to watch it. Not to me personally, but to people who deserved better than her crap).

She's a hateful person who views herself as the victim in every situation she's been in, and takes no responsibility for ANYTHING at all. She deserves every single bad thing that's ever happened to her. I hope she has several more humiliations in her future.

by Anonymousreply 34610/01/2010

OK.. I don't like her or the way she treats others but to set the record straight-- Patti doesn't hate the gays- one of her closest friends from ANYTHING GOES (former chorus boy, currently a Broadway standby) is gay.%0D They go shopping, he visits her home in CT, etc.

by Anonymousreply 34710/01/2010

AndrewTPhilly must be trying to claw his way out of the mental ward about now.

by Anonymousreply 34810/01/2010

Yes R323 everything you mentioned is right out of her book. But you twisted all of those points in such a way that made her an even more bigger bitch than she already is.

She backed up every single point you made, with reasons why she did what she did. But you failed to mention her reasoning.

Another point you failed to mention is that she took out a restraining order in her Sunset Contract forbidding Glenn Close within 1 foot in front of her.

by Anonymousreply 34910/01/2010

r346 - It's interesting that even when people agree with you, you still namecall like a 10 year old. I guess you have more things in common with Chris Burke than you admit to. Good luck with that shoe-lace tying! I know it's a challenge.

by Anonymousreply 35010/01/2010

r349 - bwahahahahaha. You should have a sitcom :-)

First you agree that all of LuPone's unprofessional behavior IS documented in her memoir, by Patti herself. Then you say these facts were twisted? Go pick up the book, give poor little Patti $25.99 and you can read it for yourself. She clearly needs the money after selling all her personal items on eBay a few years back.

As for Patti filing a restraining order against Glenn Close, I think you're mistaking Ms. Close for her character in FATAL ATTRACTION. Why would 5 time Oscar nominee, 3 time Emmy winner, 2 time Golden Globe winner Close have any need to go anywhere near LuPone? Would you mind providing a link to this alleged restraining order? Or is it impossible to provide a link to the cobweb strewn recesses of your own deluded mind?

by Anonymousreply 35110/01/2010

Wow, lots of Patti hatred here. Some people are just fixated on her. %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 35210/01/2010

r348, I'd really love for you, if you despise me so, to tell me who you are so we can sit down and discuss a few things. Like why you get off on being a 65 year old, bitter queen and internet bully.%0D %0D You just have to keep starting in on me. Go for it. Don't come here and call Patti LuPone a bitch when you're acting like the same person you hate so much.%0D %0D Punk.

by Anonymousreply 35310/01/2010

R351 you obviously didn't read the book either.

Page 214

"I had several conditions ALW had to satisfy, starting with Glenn Close not attending the London Premiere, or being anywhere in the vicinity while I was rehearsing the part."

"There was no way I would now let them parade someone about who would be playing the part almost a year later"

by Anonymousreply 35410/01/2010

R351 it was a restraining order IN HER SUNSET CONTRACT. Not a police restraining order.

by Anonymousreply 35510/01/2010

r354: A contractual stipulation IS NOT a restraining order, no matter how much you or Ms. LuPone would like to believe that it is. A condition in a contract, especially one that can never be enforced, is not a restraining order. A theatrical producer (no matter how much he or she may believe they are GOD) has no power to keep anyone from attending a rehearsal if they have been invited to do so, buying a ticket to a public premiere or going to a cast party if they have been invited. A condition in a contract, especially one that can never be enforced, is not a restraining order. That would be like saying "As a condition of my contract, the producer must ensure the sky is always blue. If it is not, this contract is null and void."

Next, why in Patti's ego, would she think that Glenn Close who had been Oscar nominated five times for indelible characters like Marquise Isabelle de Merteuil in DANGEROUS LIAISONS and Alex Forrest in FATAL ATTRACTION and created characters on Broadway for playwrights like Tom Stoppard (THE REAL THING) and Michael Frayn (BENEFACTORS) would need to attend a rehearsal to copy LuPone's acting choices? What hubris!

Finally, if Ms. Close attended rehearsal, Ms. LuPone could always walk out of the production in disgust %E2%80%A6 oops, she DID walk out, didn't she -- on both SUNSET and LES MIZ -- for all the good it did her.

by Anonymousreply 35610/01/2010

Andrew R353- Got an e-mail from Vera asking me to stop the negative comments. So I will.%0D Now.

by Anonymousreply 35710/01/2010

R350,351,356, start your own Patti website.

by Anonymousreply 35810/01/2010

I for one relish how bizarre this thread has become.

This is one of my favorite threads ever in the history of Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 35910/01/2010

When men stand up for themselves from Marlon Brando to Sean Penn, people say 'I really admire someone who stand-up for themselves and doesn't take shit from no one'

But when a woman does it, she is labeled bat-shit crazy and a bitch.

She writes on page 177

Over the years, nobody's fought my battles for me. This is my career, my livelihood, and my talent. I will protect it if nobody else does. Too much experience has come from trial and error. I now have a very strong agent and lawyer and rider that, in the words of one general manager, 'reads like every mistake in Patti's career.' He's right, but with every new contract I try to make sure that every possible problem I've had in the past will never happen again. It's impossible. Theatre keeps changing.

by Anonymousreply 36010/01/2010

No one's talking about Patti standing up for herself.

It's her hateful treatment of the people who work with her that people object to.

Just read her book, for God's sake - it's all there in black and white. Poor Patti, just trying to make a living as a star, beset with unprofessional chorus people, mean John Houseman asking her to audition, horrid men like Topol and Paul Sorvino and Bill Smitrovich, hygienically-challenged directors like John Berry - the whole world has been against her.

Never once does she examine her OWN behavior.

by Anonymousreply 36110/01/2010

Sorvino and Topol are well-known to be assholes, so she's accurate there.

by Anonymousreply 36210/01/2010

According to the Law & Order book, everyone in cast hated Paul Sorvino as well.

by Anonymousreply 36310/01/2010

R361 we are talking about sexual harassment with Topol.

According to your logic, she should just accept that women should assaulted like that?

Other women need to step forward and take a stand against this type of behavior, so that other women don't have to feel threatened with this type of behavior.

by Anonymousreply 36410/01/2010

Alec Mapa tweeted a few hours ago-"Halfway through Patti LuPone memoir. Wow, she ain't happy about shit."

Hee.

by Anonymousreply 36510/01/2010

Why did Lupone stipulate that Glenn Close not attend the premiere/rehearsals etc.?

I thought Close replacing her for LA/NY came out of nowhere for Lupone...

by Anonymousreply 36710/02/2010

A message from Patti from her blog!

"Dolls buy my book. I'm trapped on the NY Times Bestseller list between 2 Republicans!"

by Anonymousreply 36810/02/2010

I know for a fact she and Stritch were never invited back to LAW & ORDER after their initial appearances because both were such unbearable pains-in-the-asses to staff, cast and crew. I was there when they were shooting a scnee in the rotunda outside the courtroom and she whined about having to carry a briefcase. The propmaster said "Uhhh, you're playing an attorney. I think a briefcase is the way to go on this one." She was very briefly under consideration to play the new DA after Dianne Wiest left but the idea was dismissed after a few days. I actually think she would have been a terrific DA but she would have been more trouble than she was worth.

by Anonymousreply 36910/02/2010

LOL R59--you're a bitch!

by Anonymousreply 37010/02/2010

Why do you people care how Patti treats anyone? She didn't treat you badly.

by Anonymousreply 37110/02/2010

R369 both ladies actually made more than ONE guest appearance on L&O. In fact Stritch won her first Emmy for her Guest Apperance on L&O.

Stritch is the only actor to win Emmys in BOTH Comedy and Drama in the Guest Actress Category.

by Anonymousreply 37210/02/2010

Pee LuPee was on L & O twice.

Sean Hayes and Eric Macormack hated working with Pee LuPee on Will and Grace.

by Anonymousreply 37310/02/2010

[quote]Sorvino and Topol are well-known to be assholes, so she's accurate there.

But Patti is even BETTER known as an asshole.

Nothing you say will change that she's an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 37410/02/2010

Entertainment Weekly has an interview this week and Patti says,

"It's been toned down CONSIDERABLY. I put a lot of stuff in there, and one of the first notes I got from my editor was that I complained a lot".

So this is the toned down, no complaining version!

by Anonymousreply 37510/02/2010

[quote]When men stand up for themselves from Marlon Brando to Sean Penn, people say 'I really admire someone who stand-up for themselves and doesn't take shit from no one'

No, they do not. What complete horseshit.

People who worked with him thought Brando was a nutjob and people think Sean Penn is an asshole.

Stop pissing on our legs and saying it's raining.

by Anonymousreply 37610/02/2010

[quoye]Why do you people care how Patti treats anyone? She didn't treat you badly.

Charles Manson is quite a guy! After all, he never ordered the brutal slaying of MY family and I liked his singing voice.

by Anonymousreply 37710/02/2010

[quote]Why do you people care how Patti treats anyone?

Because this is a gossip site?

by Anonymousreply 37810/02/2010

It's amazing how little self-awareness she has.

Patti writes a book all about the horrible people she's worked with and how life always fucks her over.

Bernadette Peters writes children's books about dogs. SHE has class.

by Anonymousreply 37910/02/2010

I do have to wonder how Bill Smitrovich got away with being an asshole. At least Patti had a Tony and Broadway stardom to justify (in her own mind) her abhorrent behavior.

Smitrovich was a nobody, who went back to nobodyness after LGO.

by Anonymousreply 38010/02/2010

[quote]Why do you people care how Patti treats anyone?

Such bullshit. "Let's go ahead and gossip about celebrities, but not the ones I like! They're off limits!"

by Anonymousreply 38110/03/2010

My thread is not closed, dolls! Post away about me, me, me!

by Anonymousreply 38210/03/2010

R376 'People who worked with him thought Brando was a nutjob and people think Sean Penn is an asshole.'

If they thought that, why did Hollywood award both actors the Oscar TWICE!

by Anonymousreply 38310/03/2010

"If they thought that, why did Hollywood award both actors the Oscar TWICE!"

Umm, because the Oscar is an acting award, not the Miss Congeniality consolation prize.

by Anonymousreply 38410/03/2010

True dat. I mean, they awarded Patti the Tony twice, too (the last one undeserved), and most of the Broadway community despises her.

by Anonymousreply 38510/03/2010

R381, you twit, gossip all you want about celebrities, but why YOU are so personally offended by Patti LuPone's off-stage behavior it fucking NUTS.

by Anonymousreply 38610/03/2010

I can't reinforce it enough, the people who hate Patti LuPone have serious issues. The non-stop posting about her, the way they heckle her fans, the way they can't get enough of the negativity.%0D %0D Let it go.%0D %0D Please, just let it go.

by Anonymousreply 38710/03/2010

"True dat. I mean, they awarded Patti the Tony twice, too (the last one undeserved), and most of the Broadway community despises her."

What do you mean undeserved? It was 28 years between my awards!! I deserved a Tony for everything I did on Broadway. Look at Julie Harris, she just farted Tony Awards. They handed her an award just for showing up at auditions.

by Anonymousreply 38810/03/2010

"most of the Broadway community despises her."%0D %0D Yet she's still one of Broadway's biggest stars.%0D %0D And that just KILLS you.

by Anonymousreply 38910/03/2010

Well, Nathan Lane is probabbly a bigger star than Patti, and most of the Broadway community dislikes him for his ugly backstage behavior. But he has a big theater fanbase and is THE reason ADDAMS FAMILY is still running. Everybody wants him for projects in spite of the fact that he's an asshole.%0D %0D LuPone is a VERY charismatic star. She sells a lot of tickets. There are very few Broadway stars than can do that. To her credit, she chooses interesting projects. She's a major reason WOMEN ON THE VERGE is selling. If she's a monster backstage, the powers-that-be shrug their shoulders. Sometimes, you gotta just deal with star shit.%0D %0D Like Stritch, Patti is tolerated. But she isn't LOVED the way Bernadette is.

by Anonymousreply 39010/03/2010

R387, allow me to introduce you to the people who DEFEND her. THEY are CRAZY.

by Anonymousreply 39110/04/2010

On being difficult.

Patti LuPone has quite the reputation. She has been called a diva. She's been called difficult. She has worked like a dog all of her life. It sounds like LuPone's a piece of work.

LuPone pauses before answering.

"Um, yeah. I would say," LuPone pauses again. "Let me say I was trained at Juilliard. I have a very high standard. I expect everybody around me to work equally as hard because people pay a lot of money for tickets. They demand the best that we have."

by Anonymousreply 39210/04/2010

Then she ought to give it.%0D %0D I'm waiting on my refund for her dreadful performance in Noises Off, her lousy Old Neighborhood, and her unintelligible Mrs. Lovett (the concert).

by Anonymousreply 39310/04/2010

Just go to 2:50-2:59 and enjoy!

by Anonymousreply 39410/04/2010

You're right, r392.

She HAS been called a diva. She HAS been called difficult.

And she HAS been called a dog all of her life!

by Anonymousreply 39510/04/2010

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by Anonymousreply 39610/04/2010

It sounds like pattifan and stevensstage have wandered over here from ATC. They both worship the ground she walks on to the point where it's clear they're both mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 39710/04/2010

Pot...kettle...black r397?

by Anonymousreply 39810/04/2010

In the EW article it repeats the wrong info that she beat Barbra for the role of Evita. Any Streisand knows she would not consider doing Broadway at that time...%0D %0D I saw Patti in Evita an remember her winking at a guy wearin a turban in the audience...

by Anonymousreply 39910/04/2010

[quote]I'm waiting on my refund for her dreadful performance in Noises Off, her lousy Old Neighborhood, and her unintelligible Mrs. Lovett (the concert). by: she's deluded

She's deluded? Dude, you're the fool that keeps paying to see her. Some of you here are just twisted.

by Anonymousreply 40010/04/2010

Who said I paid? The Sweeney concert ticket was free.%0D %0D I paid to see Noises Off and The Old Neighborhood. I didn't pay to see Patti Lupone. She just happened to be in the cast.

by Anonymousreply 40110/04/2010

Continue the backpeddling, r401.%0D %0D Some of you sound like Patti came to your house, slit your boyfriends throats, shit on your front lawn and killed your cat.%0D %0D YOU people are the ones that sound mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 40210/04/2010

There are certain stars who are stars BECAUSE they're abrasive and annoying. They get your attention and stick in your mind. I think advertising people used to call it the irritation factor. In this category I'd include Ethel Merman and Mandy Patinkin as well as Patti. They're like clowns, and that includes being a little scary.%0D %0D Nathan Lane belongs more to the mean little bastard category, which includes a lot of performers who specialize in comedy. You can clearly see he's a mean little bastard but there's a certain pathos in it because you can tell he can't help it.

by Anonymousreply 40310/04/2010

You have stars like Patti LuPone, and then you have b-listers in the theater like Carole Demas and Loni Ackerman.

Patti's talent is undeniable.

by Anonymousreply 40410/04/2010

Like her diction.

by Anonymousreply 40510/04/2010

backpedalling?%0D %0D keep reaching, dude

by Anonymousreply 40610/04/2010

R403, is it true that NATHAN LANE will play Lena Horne's gay husband in the Oprah produced biopic starring Alicia Keys?

by Anonymousreply 40710/04/2010

The derangement in this thread is inspiring.

by Anonymousreply 40810/04/2010

r402

Has it occured to you that some posters have worked with LuP or have friends who have worked with her?

by Anonymousreply 40910/04/2010

No, r409. Because I highly doubt there's anyone on this thread who knows wtf they are talking about in regards to LuPone's professionalism. I also highly doubt there's any working actors on this thread. Not on Datalounge. There's only people who can't create, so they destroy.%0D %0D But I do have friends that have worked with her and they've never said anything negative about her.

by Anonymousreply 41010/04/2010

I've been consistent in saying I worked with LuPone, twice, and while she was never hateful to me, she was hateful and unprofessional to others. It was very uncomfortable to experience her going off on someone.

In her favor, she can be very, very funny and amusing to hang out with. And she can be loyal to underlings who learn how to "play" her and avoid her wrath.

But she is NOT generous, she is NOT kind, and she DOES have a sense of entitlement and "Why does everyone pick on me?" that obviously comes through in her book.

by Anonymousreply 41110/04/2010

[quote]You have stars like Patti LuPone, and then you have b-listers in the theater like Carole Demas and Loni Ackerman.

At the time Ackerman was doing Evita, she was A-list. Once she left the show, she fell to D-list and was practically never heard from again (aside from the obligatory run as Grizabella in Cats).

Carole Demas would squeal with delight to know that someone considered her "B-list." Very, very nice lady, though.

by Anonymousreply 41210/04/2010

R410 has friends?%0D %0D Why do I doubt that?

by Anonymousreply 41310/04/2010

Isn't Streisand worse?

by Anonymousreply 41410/04/2010

Streisand may be a bitch, but she has class, and she's a superstar in both film and music.

LuPone is not a superstar, and she is vulgar.

by Anonymousreply 41510/04/2010

She has always remained friends with Dale Hensley ( Douglas Hodge's standby in La Cage aux Folle ) who was a chorus boy in Anything Goes.%0D They remain friends... so I guess she can be loyal to someone.

by Anonymousreply 41610/04/2010

Hitler remained close to Eva Braun to the end (or very near the end).

by Anonymousreply 41710/04/2010

I think Loni has been married to super-star Sound Designer Steve Canyon Kennedy (The Producers, Jersey Boys and many other huge hits)for many years so at least she hasn't been starving.%0D %0D To the poster who worked with Patti twice: Can you give an instance of her meanness to other people backstage? I don't doubt you for a minute but would find specifics helpful and amusing. TIA!

by Anonymousreply 41810/04/2010

R416, he probably kisses her ample ass.

by Anonymousreply 41910/04/2010

R403 should take a look at Merman's autobiography. She takes off on several ex-husbands, Fernando Lamas and Richard Rodgers and a few others. %0D %0D Merman is otherwise pretty reasonable, and seems thrilled with her career and the people she worked with from day one. But, Merman became a star on the night of her first performance on a Broadway stage, a very different career than LuPone's.

by Anonymousreply 42010/04/2010

R415, that doesn't cut it. A self-absorbed bitch is a self absorbed bitch not matter how many CDs they sell or don't sell.

by Anonymousreply 42110/04/2010

[quote]Streisand may be a bitch, but she has class, and she's a superstar in both film and music.

Barbra has talent (gobs of it), and she's a superstar. And she has money.

She does NOT have class.

by Anonymousreply 42210/04/2010

Compared to Patti LuPone, yes, Streisand has class. LuPone is low and crass and acts like Sicilian street filth.

by Anonymousreply 42310/04/2010

ACTS?!

by Anonymousreply 42410/04/2010

Well, if we're talking compared to Patti LuPone, the Situation and Snooki are the Duke and Duchess of Devonshire.

by Anonymousreply 42510/05/2010

R369, read a little more carefully. I know Stritch and LuPone appeared on L&O more than once. I referred to them both being considered persona non grata there after their "initial appearances."

by Anonymousreply 42610/05/2010

I think Patti may be having trouble with her irregular verbs: %0D %0D "I am a perfectionist%0D %0D You are outspoken%0D %0D She is round the twist"%0D

by Anonymousreply 42710/06/2010

One of Patti's understudies IN SUNSET was read the riot act when Patti saw her in the wings watching the show. (Given the history with EVITA, AG and SUNSET) it makes some kind of twisted sense.%0D %0D However, Patti was the only Norma who allowed the same understudy to use the star dressing room when she was on.%0D %0D She was not the primary understudy btw, and had been Christine Andreas' understudy in RAGS. Andreas was the understudy for Teresa Stratas and did many performances when Stratas was indisposed.%0D %0D Teresa Stratas...now that's truly one crazy diva

by Anonymousreply 42810/06/2010

r420, what does Merman say about Rodgers in the book? I read it many years ago but don't remember. Somehow it surprises me that she would go after somebody as heavyweight as Rodgers, but I guess maybe she just didn't give a shit.

by Anonymousreply 42910/06/2010

this book must not be selling well

I'm having a heck of hard time unloading a copy on Amazon

by Anonymousreply 43010/06/2010

Richard Rodgers was a producer on Annie Get Your Gun but perhaps Merman resented him for casting Mary Martin as Maria Von Trapp, a role Ethel envied.

by Anonymousreply 43110/06/2010

i like cookys

by Anonymousreply 43210/06/2010

I thought she said she was on the NY Times bestseller list?

by Anonymousreply 43310/07/2010

Has Patti's pity party petered out?

by Anonymousreply 43410/07/2010

The review in the NYTimes this morning by Charles Isherwood is fairly hilarious:

by Anonymousreply 43510/08/2010

Glory and Misery on the Way to Stardom By CHARLES ISHERWOOD Published: October 7, 2010

Acceptance speeches are definitely a lot better to give than to receive. But Patti LuPone%E2%80%99s 60 seconds of glory at the Tonys after her win for %E2%80%9CGypsy%E2%80%9D constituted one of the highlights of that year%E2%80%99s telecast. Cradling the twirling medallion, she began with a sly joke. %E2%80%9CIt%E2%80%99s such a wonderful gift to be an actor who makes her living working on the Broadway stage,%E2%80%9D she said, %E2%80%9Cand then every 30 years or so, pick up one of these.%E2%80%9D

As Ms. LuPone reveals with refreshing candor in her new autobiography, the line was actually written by a friend. Nevertheless it captures the LuPone tone precisely. There%E2%80%99s a healthy ego at work %E2%80%94 about damn time, guys! %E2%80%94 but the tough edge is softened by the self-aware humor of an actor who knows in her bones what it is to be grateful, not just for the occasional fancy paperweight, but also for the next job.

%E2%80%9CPatti LuPone: A Memoir,%E2%80%9D written with Digby Diehl, represents no dazzling literary feat. As a work of literature it%E2%80%99s more or less negligible, although the workmanlike prose is enlivened with zesty infusions of gum-chewing New York humor. Ms. LuPone plays the highlight reel and the blooper reel essentially in straightforward chronological order, writing of roles and rehearsals and openings and closings in a style unadorned by felicitous phrasing or sustained reflection.

But nobody reads showbiz autobiographies to discover the next Proust. If a book rings true and shovels a sufficiency of dirt, revealing the pain and grit without quite dousing the glamour, we are satisfied. On both scores Ms. LuPone%E2%80%99s book delivers. She comes across as a straight talker, a tireless worker and an occasional tantrum thrower and Valium taker. The Patti LuPone we meet in these pages has earned her reputation as a diva (in the benign sense) through her big talent, willingness to take risks and sheer persistence, and her reputation as a diva (in the less benign sense) more out of nerves, actorly integrity and ill fortune than blinkered egotism.

The chapters devoted to her star-making role in %E2%80%9CEvita%E2%80%9D illuminate both the glory and the misery, and they make for often hair-raising reading. Ms. LuPone was working on her first big movie (Steven Spielberg%E2%80%99s %E2%80%9C1941%E2%80%9D %E2%80%94 bum luck) when she was summoned to New York for a final audition. She was warned that if she didn%E2%80%99t make it back for her morning call two days later, her Hollywood career would be over. %E2%80%9CReally, people talk like that out there,%E2%80%9D she writes.

Cue a blizzard. Ms. LuPone had to perform the audition in a state of heightened emotion and suppressed rage, knowing that she%E2%80%99d never make it back to Los Angeles in time and that the powerful Mr. Spielberg would not be pleased. The anger helped, and she got the plum part that would turn her into a Broadway luminary overnight.

But the rewarding roles, as Ms. Lupone%E2%80%99s book makes clear, often come in productions plagued by angst. At one point during the tumultuous out-of-town tryouts for %E2%80%9CEvita,%E2%80%9D Ms. LuPone was a hair%E2%80%99s breadth from being fired. Only an encouraging word from the critic Clive Barnes to the producer Robert Stigwood %E2%80%94 for once, the critic as hero! %E2%80%94 saved her from being let go from one of the most high-profile musicals of the era.

Still, she struggled with the demanding vocal range and the challenge of making her own a role that had already been created, to acclaim, by Elaine Paige in the London production. Ms. LuPone rebuffed advice on her interpretation from dancers in the London staging. %E2%80%9CShut up%E2%80%9D and let me figure it out myself, she told them, and thus %E2%80%9Ca Broadway reputation was born.%E2%80%9D

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by Anonymousreply 43610/08/2010

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Her fabled temperament aside, Ms. LuPone%E2%80%99s stage career has been important, and not only because she may be one of the last generation of theater performers to attain a measure of real stardom without forging a strong career in film or television.

Those who know her primarily for her big musical theater roles %E2%80%94 Evita and Reno Sweeney and Mrs. Lovett and Momma Rose %E2%80%94 may be unaware that this Long Island-born actress was in the very first class of the Juilliard Drama division, led somewhat rancorously by John Houseman. Or that she toured the country performing the classics for a few years afterward in the Acting Company, the important itinerant troupe that emerged directly from that class. Or that Ms. LuPone has been a significant interpreter of the work of David Mamet.

These career passages are related in brisk, frill-free chapters that are sometimes skimpy when you%E2%80%99d like a little more fleshing out. Kevin Kline sidles up in a backhand reference, and Ms. LuPone never says much about their youthful romance. She divulges little or nothing about other relationships except her happy marriage to a cameraman, with whom she has a son.

Work is the natural focus, and the inclusiveness is salutary; the breadth of the roles she writes about attests to her assertion that she has pursued acting challenges more assiduously than star parts.

Ms. LuPone does give due prominence to the performances that could be described as the nadir and the apex of her career to date. (She opens on Broadway next month in the new musical %E2%80%9CWomen on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown.%E2%80%9D) Two meaty chapters that still ring with dudgeon are devoted to Ms. LuPone%E2%80%99s tumultuous experience in Andrew Lloyd Webber%E2%80%99s musical adaptation of %E2%80%9CSunset Boulevard.%E2%80%9D

Unsurprisingly, she has few kind words to say about Mr. Lloyd Webber%E2%80%99s role in withdrawing the offer to star in the Broadway production after the show (and its leading lady) opened to some sour reviews in the West End. Ms. LuPone does offer many amusing and unkind ones on the subject and spares a few for Glenn Close, who ultimately played the role in New York and never sent a conciliatory or friendly message.

%E2%80%9CYou might think it would have been common courtesy, if nothing else,%E2%80%9D Ms. LuPone grouses, with reason.

Far happier is the history of Ms. LuPone%E2%80%99s involvement with %E2%80%9CGypsy,%E2%80%9D related in chapters that open and close the book. Even the journey to her triumphant night at the Tonys was not obstacle-free. Ms. LuPone practically had to grovel before Arthur Laurents, the author of the musical%E2%80%99s book, who had a beef with her after she withdrew from one of his plays, to win his permission to play the role in New York. And the critical reception to her debut in the role at City Center was not unanimously enthusiastic.

But Ms. LuPone has a formidable will to match Momma Rose%E2%80%99s. The story of her campaign to bring the show to Broadway makes for a winning close to a book that reveals how doggedly even established actors have to work to keep a career on track, to keep the gift of a talent in flexible form, to keep the specter of oblivion %E2%80%94 not to mention poverty %E2%80%94 at bay.

As Ms. LuPone writes, apropos of that life-changing turn as Eva Peron, %E2%80%9CWhat many believe must have been a glorious ascent into heady stardom was, for me, a trial by fire, with the constant threat of being burned at the stake.%E2%80%9D Ms. LuPone is mixing her incendiary metaphors, but as this lively book illustrates, she has earned the right to get a little overheated on occasion.

by Anonymousreply 43710/08/2010

Charles McNulty's review in the LA Times. A self-identified Patti lover (he calls her performance in GYPSY "historical" - what a queen) - he is overwhelmed by the negativity in the book.

"Time hasn't brought perspective. As LuPone reviews her humiliations like a bamboozled middle-aged bride in divorce court, you feel like shouting to her, "Patti, get a grip %E2%80%94 it's only a schlocky Andrew Lloyd Webber musical!" Her bout with breast cancer (caught early, knock wood) is a blip on the radar screen compared with this battle royale."

Still, Patti would love that he called her "middle-aged."

by Anonymousreply 43810/08/2010

Patti is more "middle Earth" than "middle aged".

by Anonymousreply 43910/08/2010

Well, Patti's ass certainly resembles earth. And her face bears an eerie resemblance to the Grand Canyon, so you're right, r439.

by Anonymousreply 44010/08/2010

"I thought she said she was on the NY Times bestseller list?"

If only there were some way to find out.

by Anonymousreply 44110/09/2010

Last night the original Les Miz cast had a reunion at Joe Allen in London. Frances Ruffelle said the following on Facebook: "i hope someone is bringing cocaine tonight for the 25th les mis dinner... it will remind us of Patti!"

by Anonymousreply 44210/09/2010

It sounds from the postings after the first preview of Women on the Verge, that a major problem with the show is that Patti is given too much to do for what should be a secondary character. %0D %0D If they start cutting her material and stage time, look for the makings of Chapter 1 in her book's sequel.

by Anonymousreply 44310/09/2010

She played a supporting role in La Miz, so I don't think a supporting part would be a problem for her.

by Anonymousreply 44410/09/2010

So was it another one of Patti's lies when she said she was stuck on the NY Times bestseller list between two Republicans, or was she only on there for one week?

In any event, how sad for her that she couldn't even make it to #35 this week.

by Anonymousreply 44510/10/2010

Patti did make the NYT bestseller list. It was a couple weeks ago.

by Anonymousreply 44610/10/2010

Newcomer to the stage reportedly telling friends that LuPone remains a bitch on wheels.

by Anonymousreply 44710/10/2010

Sounds like your friend is an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 44810/10/2010

"She played a supporting role in La Miz,"

Featured, bitch. Ya hear me--FEATURED!

by Anonymousreply 44910/10/2010

Are there any gunshots in Patti's book?

by Anonymousreply 45010/10/2010

Who the fuck is she??

by Anonymousreply 45110/10/2010

Who the fuck am I, R451?! Who the FUCK am I?

How DARE you! Who do YOU THINK YOU ARE?!

by Anonymousreply 45210/10/2010

I love the snarky comments creeping out here and there from the original Les Mis cast. First Rebecca Caine (Patti's "writing fiction") and now Frances Ruffelle ("Cocaine to remind us of Patti!") Who's next? Will Michael Ball break his public image to say something about fellow fatty Patty? Or Colm Wilkinson? What about the original Gavroche and Young Cosette? They must still have nightmares about her, if she treated them the way she treated her little daughters in GYPSY.

by Anonymousreply 45310/10/2010

She was AWFUL to those kids in GYPSY.

by Anonymousreply 45410/10/2010

what did Frances Ruefelle mean? (she needed cocaine to survive Patti or Patti was on the cocaine?)

by Anonymousreply 45510/10/2010

Undoubtedly she was referring to Patti's coke habit. She didn't break it till she got ANYTHING GOES.

by Anonymousreply 45610/11/2010

who's willing to spill the details of her cocaine addiction? lots of ppl here allude to it, but no one ever backs it up with facts, anecdotes or evidence...

by Anonymousreply 45710/11/2010

Uh, R457, I offer, as evidence:

by Anonymousreply 45810/11/2010

In Toronto, which has a HUGE Gay population there are only 12 reserves for her book through the Toronto Public Library.

They only have 12 copies.

by Anonymousreply 45910/11/2010

Ever since she bared her breasts in SON OF SAM I have had difficulty watching her in anything. Even GYPSY. All I could think about during "Some People' was that bosom.

by Anonymousreply 46010/11/2010

What's wrong with it? Link?

by Anonymousreply 46110/11/2010

Her breasts are fine. Or at least they were when she did Summer of Sam. But it was an unnecessary, gratuitous nude scene, and it was unseemly for her to do it.

But there was nothing actually wrong with her breasts.

by Anonymousreply 46210/11/2010

All I know about Ethel Merman I learned from %0D "Valley of the Dolls," the novel.%0D %0D All I know about Nathan Lane is what I read about him on DL and elsewhere.%0D %0D I do think Patti LuPone's talented, but I also have very good bitchdar and she sets it off every time.

by Anonymousreply 46310/11/2010

I wonder if Ethel Merman would have shown her boobs in a movie if anyone would have asked? She certainly had no problem being turned upside down and showing her girdled ass in "It's a Mad Mad World."

by Anonymousreply 46410/11/2010

r220 -- I don't remember, since I was focused completely on Barry Bostwick.%0D %0D r287- in *love* with *Topol*? Really? Eyeewwwwwwww.

by Anonymousreply 46510/11/2010

what does her son do? college? performer?

by Anonymousreply 46610/11/2010

[quote]what does her son do?

As many of the chorus boys from her shows as he can get his hands on.

by Anonymousreply 46710/12/2010

"As many of the chorus boys from her shows as he can get his hands on."%0D %0D Is this a joke, or have you really heard this? I heard he was straight.

by Anonymousreply 46810/12/2010

Gay friendly but definitely straight

by Anonymousreply 46910/13/2010

Well, the kid's about 19, isn't he? Give him time. It is almost impossible to believe that a male born of Patti LuPone's vagina, and raised in her home, could ever turn out heterosexual.

by Anonymousreply 47010/14/2010

"It is almost impossible to believe that a male born of Patti LuPone's vagina, and raised in her home, could ever turn out heterosexual."%0D %0D I went to all the trouble of finding you a phone dialing wand and you're using your FINGER? Can't you at least pick up a pencil?

by Anonymousreply 47110/14/2010

Honk honk bump!

R61

by Anonymousreply 47203/27/2013

RE: Patti's coke habit. I know the trumpet player from the Anything Goes orchestra. He LOVES LOVES LOVES Patti, and said she had a huge cocaine habit during the run. She used to flash her boobs to the orchestra at regular intervals, he said. He says she was a fun, good time type of broad.

I'm guessing she cleaned up her act during the long run. Sad that in her book she says Anything Goes was not a happy experience. It was certainly wonderful seeing her in it!

by Anonymousreply 47305/09/2013
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