In a society where a man may not even look at a woman's face until he is engaged to her, Afghanistan's men have resorted to courting pubescent boys. [quote]...an American who worked in and around (Karzai's) palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."
Afghanistan a teeming cauldron of Sodomy, study finds
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/17/2013|
So its Hells Kitchen with turbans?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||08/31/2010|
I wonder who volunteered for this "study"?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||08/31/2010|
"Pederasty," OP. The word you were looking for was "pederasty."
|by Anonymous||reply 3||08/31/2010|
pedophilia is not "homosexual behavior" motherfucker
|by Anonymous||reply 4||08/31/2010|
neither is "mother fucking."
|by Anonymous||reply 5||08/31/2010|
Men have always loved boys. It's not new, and it will never go away, no matter what the women are wearing.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||08/31/2010|
Countdown to R4's head exploding after reading R6...
in 5... 4... 3... 2...
|by Anonymous||reply 7||08/31/2010|
One way ticket to Kabul for Noodles!
|by Anonymous||reply 8||08/31/2010|
Culturally sanctioned????? I can't imagine too many mothers want their sons raped by these pedophiles. I'd like to see all these men packed up and sent to the Congo, where they can be serially raped and see how they like it. Meanwhile, take the veils off those women and get some decent men to get involved with them.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||08/31/2010|
Sexually repressive societies are going to produce some unhealthy and abusive sexual relationships.%0D %0D If sex is always "sinful," then people will figure out a way to make it even more sinful.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||08/31/2010|
Yeah, because American women, who are free to dress one step removed from nudity have such a decent lot of men at their disposal. See what taking those veils off can do.
Meanwhile *Googles: infidelity rates, domestic violence rates, child abuse, abduction, and molestation rates, female victimization rates, rape rates, all with respect to America. Oh shit! American men are decent, now I see the magic checking out hot women works.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||08/31/2010|
Already been covered by Frontline...
|by Anonymous||reply 12||08/31/2010|
Ooohhh NAMBLA can off-shore. Oh wait...
|by Anonymous||reply 13||08/31/2010|
It's punished by death. But it's part of the demonization of gays by the western media to pretend that these violently antigay societies are rampantly homosexual when they are not. It's the same with pretending Hitler was gay although all documented evidence points to illicit relations with his neice and with Eva Braun.%0D %0D Is there rampant homosexuality in sex segregated societies? Of course. But it is never socially sanctioned and always extremely dangerous and no basis for success or power in such a land.%0D
|by Anonymous||reply 14||08/31/2010|
It is somehow less shameful to be fucking boys? Why don't these horny guys just fuck each other?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||08/31/2010|
Watch the Frontline episode. They rape boys and keep them as their personal slaves. If the boys attempt to run away, they end up dead. It's really tragic.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||09/01/2010|
We did this too, but it's okay because we invented democracy.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||09/01/2010|
[quote]homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."
Translation: Mens' sexuality is fluid! Whether they admit to it or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||09/01/2010|
Afghanistan is a teeming cauldron of sodomy? Yeah, Afghanistan and Calvin Klein's bedroom.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||09/01/2010|
I think there%C3%82%C2%B4s already a film on this subject: "Harry Potter and the Magic Cauldron of Sodomy"
|by Anonymous||reply 20||09/01/2010|
Why are we at war in this nation?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||09/01/2010|
This thread should have been titled, "'We'll never give up ass fucking!' vows Afghanistan'"
|by Anonymous||reply 22||09/01/2010|
I am changing my labor day plans now
|by Anonymous||reply 23||09/01/2010|
I read somewhere that many of the Middle East's problems would be solved if men were just allowed to have casual sex with women.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||09/01/2010|
This is why asian moslem countries don't report the same crimes the rest of the world does. They must have a loop hole in their law against butt fucking. If the last quarter inch of moslem penis does not penetrate the rectum, then butt fucking has not been achieved.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||09/01/2010|
Using the term cauldron is sure meant to offend the wicken worshippers among us.
Is it true that wickens must wear a hat during services and not eat tuna on Fridays?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||09/01/2010|
Isn't homosexuality punished with death in Afghanistan?%0D I heard from a soldier who was there that they fuck their sheep and goats a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||09/01/2010|
The U.S. has been a military presence there for how long and this is the first we hear of this Afghan cultural standard?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||09/01/2010|
Are they kidnapping the boys? Are the parents scared to confront the military who are taking the boys?
|by Anonymous||reply 29||09/01/2010|
Do people not know how parenting works in Afghanistan? They will stone their children to death if they offend Allah, and you wonder if they are protecting their kids?
The mother has NO say. Period. The father has boy lovers of his own.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||09/01/2010|
[quote]The U.S. has been a military presence there for how long and this is the first we hear of this Afghan cultural standard?%0D %0D Perhaps this is the first YOU hear of this Afghan cultural standard. There have been several DL threads about it in the past few years. Are you a newbie, r28?%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 31||09/01/2010|
Yeah, this has been pretty well documented, by everybody, for like forever.%0D %0D The important element we're dodging is that their culture believes women to be so impure that many men are unfamiliar with the mechanics of conception, including what a vagina looks like (laugh all you want, but there is still a prevailing myth in the American South to this day that vaginas have teeth). In fact, when informed of what they will "have to do," the men are often completely repulsed.%0D %0D It's not really a gay thing, actually - it's a cultural norm that abuses power and is based on ignorance. That's about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||09/01/2010|
If anyone going to Afghanistan is interested, I%C3%82%C2%B4m selling really nice and affordable goat and sheep costumes in all sizes
|by Anonymous||reply 33||09/01/2010|
Actually, R31, I was thinking more of the report that was cited in the original link more so than DL and was speaking to the faux outrage of the average American. I should have been more specific. Fail.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||09/01/2010|
It doesn't help that Afghan women are multilated to the point of making sex unenjoyable.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||09/01/2010|
[quote]Using the term cauldron is sure meant to offend the wicken worshippers among us. Is it true that wickens must wear a hat during services and not eat tuna on Fridays?
It has to be a straw hat.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||09/01/2010|
I think theres already a film on this subject: "Harry Potter and the Magic Cauldron of Sodomy"%0D %0D Prequel: Harry Potter and the Mattress of Nocturnal Emissions?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||09/01/2010|
Harry Potter and the Catamite of Afghanistan
|by Anonymous||reply 38||09/01/2010|
This documentary about "winning" in Afghanistan would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
One "official" says, "The boys like their asses fucked".
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/16/2013|
It was the best of hats - it was the worst of hats.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/16/2013|
The Kiterunner was all about this. I figured there was a basis in fact for the story. Pederasty is disgusting but if it is commonly practiced in a society, as it is over there, then there's a sort of doomed acceptance that it happens, and the mothers may dread it, but they know it goes on. Women over there are so brutalized and repressed they wouldn't dare express their feelings about it openly.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/16/2013|
Was r11 one of the Tsaernav brothers? Sheesh!
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/16/2013|
I remember a call in show years back and a woman from that area said that the mind set is that "women are for marrying, men are for fun". Sounds about right.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/16/2013|
When will these assholes get that homosexuality is not the same as pedophelia?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/16/2013|
That's why Muslim countries don't have gays: Every man fucks boys.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/16/2013|
The Frontline doc about this was disturbing. Islam is okay with pedophilia so this problem won't go away any time soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/16/2013|
The New York Times magazine did a story sometime during the second Clinton term about Osama and his military camp/school. The article talked about the fact that Osama would send men from his camp into the villages to recruit young boys and adolescents for military training and to learn the Koran. The families are so poor and many parents felt it a good thing because their boys would be learning and studying Islam.
The journalist mentioned throughout the article about the fact that there were no women present and that these boys once they are taken would live into young adulthood without any women around. It was clear what he was implying from the tone in his piece.
I don't know what Asia is going to end up looking like. The the high suicide rates of women in India and China and the abortion of girl babies that still goes on. And the demonizing of women in the Middle East it seems like things could get crazy there real fast.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/16/2013|
Blog entry about sanctiones sexual child abuse of boys in Islam.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/16/2013|
The Koran sanctions "thighing" pre-pubescent girls. It's not such a big reach for Muslim society to turn a blind eye to molesting boys.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/16/2013|
I get absolutely infuriated at the constant Confusion between pederasty and homosexuality.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/16/2013|
Per the late Ayatollah Khomeini:
[quote]It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/17/2013|
I'd never heard of this "thighing" business before. Pederasty has been known to the area for quite some time. This is from a 2002 New Yorker article. I recall one picture from the article of Taliban fighter lovers. It was a sight.
[quote]The austerity of the Taliban was particularly anomalous in the Pashtun homelands of eastern and southern Afghanistan, of which Kandahar is the principal city. Mosques, for instance, are more architecturally ornate in the Pashtun region than they are in the north. The streets are filled with motorized rickshaws covered with fanciful bronze embossing and shiny decals. Trucks are decorated with painted tin panels and wooden bulwarks like the prows of old-fashioned schooners. Metal gewgaws dangling from their fenders tinkle as the trucks lumber along.
[quote]Pashtun men, Kandaharis in particular, are very conscious of their personal appearance. Many of them line their eyes with black kohl and color their toenails, and sometimes their fingernails, with henna. Some also dye their hair. It is quite common to see otherwise sober-seeming older men with long beards that are a flaming, almost punk-like orange color. Burly, bearded men who carry weapons also wear chaplis, colorful high-heeled sandals. I noticed that to be really chic in Kandahar you wear your chaplis a size or so too small, which means that you mince and wobble as you walk.
[quote]Afghans from other regions joke about the high incidence of pederasty among Kandahari men. They say that when crows fly over Kandahar they clamp one wing over their bottoms, just in case. One of the first things the Taliban did—a popular move—was to punish mujahideen commanders who were accused of rape or pederasty. Homosexuals who were sentenced to death faced a particularly grisly end. Tanks or bulldozers crushed them and buried them under mud walls. Pederasty was evidently a continuing source of concern to Mullah Omar, who decreed that Taliban commanders couldn’t have beardless boys in their ranks.
[quote]In downtown Kandahar, directly across from a row of small bakeries and the run-down Noor Jehan hotel, Kandahar’s finest, there are several hole-in-the-wall photo shops. After the exodus of the Taliban from the city in early December, the proprietors hung portraits of their clients in the windows, along with photographs of famous people like Bruce Lee, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ahmed Shah Massoud, and King Zahir Shah. There are many portraits of Taliban fighters posing in front of curtains or painted backdrops. They hold guns and bouquets of plastic flowers. Some are alone, others are with a friend. Some sit rigidly side by side and a few have their arms draped over one another, and some even clasp their hands together affectionately.
[quote]Said Kamal, the proprietor of the Photo Shah Zada shop, did a brisk business in Taliban portraits. He specializes in retouched photos. Kamal’s artful brushwork removes blemishes and adds color. The backdrops of his portraits are vivid greens or blues with halos of red and orange, and clothing has been transformed from the drab to the garish. Many of the Taliban sat for their portraits with heavily kohled eyes, which made them look like silent-movie stars.
[quote]Taliban portraits lie under the glass of Said Kamal’s front counter and hang on the wall in tin frames. He said that they belong to Taliban who fled the city, and he doesn’t expect them to be picked up. I found this confusing, since Mullah Omar had enforced the Koranic prohibition on representations of the human image, but Said Kamal explained that after the ban on images was announced, and the Taliban forced the photo shops to shut down, they realized that even they needed passport pictures. There was no way around it, if they wanted to travel. So an exception was made to Mullah Omar’s edict. Officially, Said Kamal made passport photographs, and he formally complied with the rules, displaying no pictures of human beings in his shopwindow. But the rules were never fully obeyed by everyone. Said Kamal continued to make portraits of the Taliban, just as
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/17/2013|
Ah, ha. I found the picture of the Taliban lovers.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/17/2013|