Liberal radio host Stephanie Miller just came out on her show.
I'd heard she was gay through a friend, but she was so deeply closeted I never believed it.
In any event, welcome Mama! I'm very, very proud of you.
Liberal radio host Stephanie Miller just came out on her show.
I'd heard she was gay through a friend, but she was so deeply closeted I never believed it.
In any event, welcome Mama! I'm very, very proud of you.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||03/23/2012|
Excellent! Who is she?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||08/13/2010|
In other news, Joe Smith in Omaha, Jane Doe in Seattle and Scott Jones in Atlanta also came out today
|by Anonymous||reply 2||08/13/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 3||08/13/2010|
What's the ratio of female gay celebrities to male gay celebrities right now?
50 to 1?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||08/13/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 5||08/13/2010|
Great news but who the fuck is she?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||08/13/2010|
If a man hasn't had the balls to come out by the time he's 50, he ain't got no balls.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||08/13/2010|
Stephy is a nationwide progressive radio host who also appears on The Ed Show and Larry King. She's hysterical.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||08/13/2010|
Too bad, her jokes about dating men were funny. Well I guess now she can make them about dating women.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||08/13/2010|
Listen ladies, she now deserves at LEAST 50% of the abuse you heaped on Rosie O'Donnell for her "crush" on Tom Cruise.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||08/13/2010|
DL is the first place I heard about the rumors about Stephanie Miller. This is awesome.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||08/13/2010|
She's definitely got a face for radio
|by Anonymous||reply 12||08/13/2010|
Her jokes about dating men mostly consisted of name future husbands. She had at least 100 guys on that list. It was a JOKE, R10.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||08/13/2010|
Loved her for years and suspected she was gay. VERY glad she did this. I missed it though. Have to catch it in the podcast!
|by Anonymous||reply 14||08/13/2010|
Oh really, r13? What about all the "Hal Sparks stayed over at my place last night" with the porn music in the background? Yes, I know she was supposedly the loser in lust in her stories and was an awful lot like Cathy Guisewhite's comic strip alter ego in them, but unlike Rosie, she never said her crushes weren't sexual. Never.%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 15||08/13/2010|
Interesting. Chris Lavoie came out earlier in the week on Twitter, albeit obliquely:
[quote]Not holding my breath about being able to marry on Wednesday. The Far Right knows no bounds in their treachery.
When someone asked "Who's the lucky guy?," Chris just said he was "taken."
|by Anonymous||reply 16||08/13/2010|
I'm surprised she came out. About time.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||08/13/2010|
Where do you find the podcast?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||08/13/2010|
I was wondering if Chris would come out too. I think he should have been out a long time ago and it was pretty silly that he wasn't. Stephanie I can almost understand since she was the celeb but there was no excuse for Chris to not come out. His "Best friend Rodney" is most likely his boyfriend.
Stephanie's jokes were sexual, but they always ended in her not getting any.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||08/13/2010|
I want to see or hear the segment.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||08/13/2010|
Meh... she's ugly as hell!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||08/13/2010|
Go to StephanieMiller.com and she has podcasts for the last 2 weeks of her show. You have to subscribe. If she is on the radio in your area her show has a best of on Saturdays I believe and Chris or John said they would play it again. It's in the 2nd hour.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||08/13/2010|
I don't think she's ugly. But she has had a lot of plastic surgery.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||08/13/2010|
Funny. Someone posted a thread here speculating about her just the other day. ...
|by Anonymous||reply 24||08/13/2010|
Hardly! I think she's very cute. She looks good for her age too, plus she's intelligent and funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||08/13/2010|
You can go to itunes and listen to it for free.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||08/13/2010|
I think Chris was already quite out. In discussing anything related to gay issues, doesn't he always say "we" as if he's part of the group on topic? I've been listening to the show for over a year, and I just always assumed he was gay and who cared. I also assumed Stephanie was asexual and who cared. But I'm pretty sure Stephanie outed herself the other day, or was at least testing the waters. They were going to commercial when she said something like, "I just might rethink this whole gay thing then..." in reference to herself. Chris said, "Oh!" like "Uh-oh!" and they went to commercial. I think she's a riot -- Chris & Jim, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||08/13/2010|
Her father, William Miller, was Goldwater's VP running mate in 1964.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||08/13/2010|
On another note, I heard Stephanie Mills like the snatch too.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||08/13/2010|
What are you talking about, R12? She's very goodlooking (and sexy). Evem the righties, even though they hate her politics, think she's hot.%0D %0D All you posters who don't even know who she is must have been living under a rock for the past several years.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||08/13/2010|
Shelley Wright said "Who?" when she heard.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||08/13/2010|
She's hot as hell. I didn't hear the entire show but my phone started going crazy since friends know I listen to her. I used to get her podcast but stopped last year. I might just have to re subscribe. She cracks me up. I've been listening to her since the 90's when she was on KFI here in LA. When I first heard her, I thought she was Ellen because she sounded so much like her. Maybe there is such a thing as "Gay Voice."
|by Anonymous||reply 32||08/13/2010|
R31, who is Shelley Wright?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||08/13/2010|
Oh, that Shelley. She didn't even know who Ineeda Mann was.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||08/13/2010|
Wow. I love Stephanie but can honestly say I never suspected it. Why wasn't she out a long time ago? I wish her the best.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||08/13/2010|
The podcasts (Stephanie's announcement, and her conversation with Chely Wright) are now up on the show's website.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||08/13/2010|
You are fucking delusional, r30.
No one with good eyesight thinks Miller is sexy or hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||08/13/2010|
r37 is too stupid to post a link.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||08/13/2010|
Why is coming out so hard? She is stumbling and fumbling over her words. VERY NERVOUS. I used to listen to her, she's great.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||08/13/2010|
R10/15, go back to Broadwayworld. Oh, right, no one cares about your ridiculous rants there either.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||08/13/2010|
I like her but hot she is NOT.%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 41||08/13/2010|
Wow, I never thought Stephanie was ugly.
She's not the sexiest woman in the world, but she's NOT ugly.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||08/13/2010|
She's the 44th most influential talk radio host in the history of talk radio, according to the industry's bible (which name escapes me).%0D %0D Hugh Huett's not on the list.%0D %0D Wow, I hardly ever listen to music anymore in the car. Most new "music" sucks and how many times can you hear "Rhiannon" until you completely lose it on the 10?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||08/13/2010|
At her best, Stephanie's a 6.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||08/13/2010|
I like Rhiannon.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||08/13/2010|
Oh come on. She's at least an 8.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||08/13/2010|
She's an 8 at her best.
7 on an average day.
6 on a bad day.
FWIW, I'd only put Chely Wright up a notch on that score: 7-8-9.
I think they'd be cute together.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||08/13/2010|
Let's compromise with saying she's a solid 7.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||08/13/2010|
This gives her oft-stated fondness for box wine a whole new dimension.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||08/13/2010|
I'm sure GLAAD will give her some big visibility award and then they'll realize she mocks Ann Coulter as being transgender.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||08/13/2010|
She mocks Coulter FOR being a far-right-wing lunatic and rightly so.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||08/13/2010|
At least now she's out, unlike Coulter.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||08/13/2010|
[quote]What's the ratio of female gay celebrities to male gay celebrities right now?
Can you even count Chely Wright as a celebrity? Yes, there has been more lesbian celebs coming out this year than gay celebs, however we hit the jackpot with Ricky. Sure, everyone knew he was gay, but he's one of the few well known celebs to come out. I didn't even know who Chely Wright was, had to look her up. And since when did we count local radio hosts? Are we really THAT desperate? Call me when a real celebrity, like A-list comes out. THAT would be interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||08/13/2010|
R2 I love you.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||08/13/2010|
I think she is very attractive. She is funny, too!
|by Anonymous||reply 55||08/13/2010|
Her she is
|by Anonymous||reply 56||08/13/2010|
It's a fun show.
As good as Stephanie Miller is, I think a lot of the credit goes to Chris Lavoie, the mad genius behind the fast pace and the weirdness. He's actually been speaking of Prop 8 in the first person on Twitter for a while now.
Here's to their lasting gay love, just not together.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||08/13/2010|
I listened to the whole first hour of her show and didn't hear a peep about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||08/13/2010|
r53, her show is national and she's a regular guest on many political tv shows and Larry King.
I just listened to the show. It's weird to me that she was so nervous about coming out. I also think it's strange that she can say she's been in love with men (plural) that she's been in sexual relationships with but that she doesn't consider herself bisexual.
This may sound cynical but I think she only came out to get in Chely Wright's pants.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||08/13/2010|
"This may sound cynical but I think she only came out to get in Chely Wright's pants."%0D %0D I too am wondering why she chose this very moment to come out. My guess is that it has something to do with her current feud with Michelle Malkin and other Fox News and right wing talking heads. It wouldn't surprise me if one of them threatened to out her and Stephanie decided to out herself first.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||08/13/2010|
Hmm, I thought this was a troll thread at first, but it's in the Advocate.
This would explain how she came to be so cozy with Melissa Etheridge!
No doubt Squeezy McFeelpants is dreaming of a Stephanie Miller/Rachel Maddow sandwich right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||08/13/2010|
r61 why would anyone make a troll thread about Stephanie Miller coming out of closet?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||08/13/2010|
yes r51, that's what she mocks Coulter FOR but she mocks her BY calling Coulter a "noted transsexual plagiarist." I'm just pointing out the kids at Camp Trans may indeed find that offensive.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||08/13/2010|
She always says she was a remarkably ugly child. Her face is probably a product of reconstructive surgery.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||08/13/2010|
I prefer it when Bill Maher calls her a Nazi party doll.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||08/13/2010|
Why do so few male celebrities come out?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||08/13/2010|
Because men are fearful. This is also why so many of them are pathological liars and carry guns and knives.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||08/13/2010|
Because male fans can fantasize about a lesbian star, but gay men are a turn off to their female fans who have visions of them riding up on a white horse and sweeping them up into their arms.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||08/13/2010|
It may seem like there are more out celebrit lesbians but there aren't really. Shelley fucking Wright? Pssshhh
|by Anonymous||reply 69||08/13/2010|
What difference does it make where she falls on your attractiveness scale?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||08/13/2010|
Chely Wright sounds completely delusional. She kept going on about the pinnacle of her success in 1999 as though anyone had any idea who she was then or does now for that matter.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||08/13/2010|
r70 is ugly.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||08/13/2010|
Interesting development about Stephanie. There was just a thread here last week asking if she was a lesbian. We sure got our answer pretty quickly.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||08/13/2010|
Damn, but not Stephanie Mills?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||08/13/2010|
It think it's ridiculous she thought she had to remain closeted as a liberal radio host. If her audience is liberal, why would they have a problem with her being gay? It reminds me of Laura Flanders who is technically out, if you dig around enough in her bios, but on-air she manages to never mention it. Even when the topic is gay rights, she carefully maneuvers her way around any mention of her own connection to the issue. Well anyway Stephanie's out now, so I won't complain. As far as I know Flanders never directly referred to herself as gay on air, so Miller beats her anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||08/13/2010|
I like the story she told about how her right wing caller inspired her when he called her in tears to tell her how his sister killed herself because she was gay. She said she called him at home later to see if he was ok. I heard that call when he told her and it was heartbreaking. He was almost in a panic about how he wanted to tell everyone that it was ok to be gay and how he had wished he had told his sister.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||08/13/2010|
Flanders is Olivia Wilde's cousin.
I think it's bizarre she was closeted for so long, too. She kept saying you attract twisted people when you're in the closet while talking with Wright and that you don't have to settle for psychos at the bottom of the dumpster.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||08/13/2010|
Eww, another fugo drunk comes out as a ??? What? is she a lezzie or a bisexual? She's boring either way.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||08/13/2010|
"It think it's ridiculous she thought she had to remain closeted as a liberal radio host."
Not really. It's always a bit scary coming out, even if you have a receptive audience.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||08/13/2010|
She's not fugo but she is a drunk. She claims to be a lesbian even though by her own admission she's what would be defined as pretty much a text book bisexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||08/13/2010|
I didn't find it scary. Lots of people haven't found it scary. Your experience is not universal.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||08/13/2010|
Oh really, r81? Did you come out on National radio too?
|by Anonymous||reply 82||08/13/2010|
Well, I am a fan of the show. I think they are very funny and I like the guests including the "stars" Hal Sparks, Edie McClurg, Aisha Tyler and the darling John Fugelsang. I don't care if she was closeted and I don't care if I find her attractive. But I DO think anyone who thinks it is easy to come out as a public figure has NO clue. So, I say, good for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||08/13/2010|
By the descriptions posted on this thread, I expected Steve Miller in a dress - something in calico- and wellies.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||08/13/2010|
[quote]She claims to be a lesbian even though by her own admission she's what would be defined as pretty much a text book bisexual.
Oh, gawd, I HATE those fuckin cunts. Stop lying and OWN IT you bisexual bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||08/13/2010|
"too"? Are you SM, r82?
r83: I'm sure it's very hard to come out when you've been lying about your orientation to your audience for years, decades. The simple solution is to not have been a coward to begin with.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||08/13/2010|
r86 life is so black-and-white to you, isn't it? Just because you've been a flaming queer all of your life doesn't mean that is the experience shared by everyone. Each person's coming process is unique to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||08/13/2010|
So Stephanie still wants to play a tune on the meat whistle?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||08/13/2010|
r87: you're wrong about everything. Try again.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||08/13/2010|
R85 Maybe she has fallen in love with men and had sex with them, but didn't like the sex? %0D %0D The neurological pair bonding mechanism is not gender-specific because it's derived from the child-parent bonding mechanism. This is scientific knowledge now. I think it explains why some people marry against their sexual orientation. They think being in love will override their sexual orientation. Works for a while, but not long-term.%0D %0D Or, perhaps she's worried about the stigmas surrounding coming out as bi (lying, slutty, poseur) and figures gay is just more professionally acceptable.%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 90||08/13/2010|
She made a point of saying she didn't want to hurt the gay rights movement by coming out so I'm guessing your second theory is closer to the truth.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||08/13/2010|
R91 It really says something about how screwed up things are when no one can come out as anything except ostensibly Kinsey 6.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||08/13/2010|
Laura Flanders is gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 93||08/13/2010|
r92, I agree. I think it's natural to some degree, humans tend to be extremists, appreciations for grays and nuance have to be learned. But to feel the need to lie about your sexuality whilst "coming out" is pretty ridiculous.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||08/13/2010|
Wow,this is amazing because I can totally relate to SM regarding her sexuality. Maybe I am bisexual, but I prefer women. I have been and still am attracted to men but choose to be with women in relationships. It was particulary difficult in the 70s when it was VERY black and white and NO I did not fit the stereotype. And, yes, I do think we all come out at our own pace. And the sooner we accept that the sooner we can get past the silly arguments, no?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||08/13/2010|
Laura Flanders is out out out! Read her books or just listen to her talk about her partner or us the "we" word when discussing gay issues as she did with Keith Olbermann recently.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||08/13/2010|
I believe no one should be forced into claiming to be bi if that's not really how they feel, regardless of attractions to the opposite or same sex. %0D %0D But, the opposite is also true. I hope that if someone feels bi is a better label, they aren't coerced into not using it by societal pressure.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||08/13/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 98||08/13/2010|
Although Stephanie said she was out to family and friends, her radio colleague Randi Rhodes said she was really surprised by the news. On her show today she laughingly talked about all the times Stephanie flirted with her, humped her leg, etc., and she never had a clue. %0D %0D Randi kept saying how much she likes Stephanie, but added that Stephanie does a lot of "self-medicating," which kind of confirms the drinking problem a lot of wondered about on the previous thread. (And Steph must be a really heavy drinker if Randi -- said to be a big drinker herself -- comments on it.)
|by Anonymous||reply 99||08/13/2010|
What business is it of Randi's to reveal that Stephanie drinks a lot?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||08/13/2010|
Randi Rhodes criticizing Stephanie Miller's drinking is like Gayle Grinds criticizing Christina Hendricks' figure.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||08/13/2010|
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, does it make a noise?
In this case, if someone comes out and no one listens to her show, does it matter?
Her PR person owns this thread, posting constantly that she is good-looking
|by Anonymous||reply 102||08/13/2010|
Rhodes is one to talk.
Yrs ago she got shit-faced drunk, fell flat on her face and lost several teeth, and then tried to claim that she was mugged.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||08/13/2010|
I love Stephanie's stories about how she had an afro, unibrow and gray fangs when she was a child. I think she's cute now.
The day after Obama was elected, everyone was busy celebrating, and the passage of Prop 8 was underplayed in the media. But Stephanie, who'd campaigned so hard for Obama for months, gave over her show largely to callers who were upset by the passage of Prop 8. I respect that so much.
But she does talk about drinking constantly on her show, and does it in a way that makes me think she may be an alcoholic. She even talked about driving drunk once; she downplayed it, but Chris Lavoie started freaking out.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||08/13/2010|
102, you're a myopic moron. I listen to Mama and the Mooks every morning when I wake up. Lots of people do. You may set your radio alarm to the techno station, but some of us have outgrown that and are interested in news and politics. %0D %0D Oh, wait. You don't set the alarm because YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB, TWEAKER MESS!
|by Anonymous||reply 105||08/13/2010|
r102 not everyone has your standard of beauty whatever it may be. I think and I'm not her PR person that she is cute. Is she Ava Gardner - no, but she's cute. She is not butt ugly, she is not Anne Ramsay (from Throw Mama from the Train, the other one is way cute) so stop with the, "she's ugly".
Not sure about her drinking, yes she makes jokes, and yes jokes can come from real life, but they can be part of a persona as well. Dean Martin wasn't really a drunk, it was his persona.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||08/13/2010|
Yeah, R104, for a long time I thought the comments about drinking were just part of her "shtick," but last week she mentioned calling Chris at home in the evenings with show ideas, but sometimes she's so drunk he can't understand her and the next day she can't remember why she called him anyway. And it didn't sound like she was joking when she said it.%0D %0D Also, I would not be at all surprised if -- after this week's N Word gaffe -- we don't see Dr. Laura headed for rehab. For years she has prided herself on her excessive self-control in every aspect of life: eating, exercising, etc. But I happened to catch parts of her show several days in a row last month and was shocked that she couldn't seem to go more than a few minutes with mentioning wine. After one difficult call she even said, "I need some wine." I would not be at all surprised if that nasty, wrinkled old bag is secretly an alcoholic too.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||08/13/2010|
You could be right r107, people do start talking more about things that they are doing almost as a way of saying help.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||08/13/2010|
What did she say?
|by Anonymous||reply 109||08/13/2010|
r109 if that was aimed at my post at r108 it is just a matter of mentioning drinking all the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||08/13/2010|
[quote]After one difficult call she even said, "I need some wine." I would not be at all surprised if that nasty, wrinkled old bag is secretly an alcoholic too.
Well, she already LOOKS like a wineskin...
|by Anonymous||reply 111||08/13/2010|
r62, it's a long story but basically I was listening this morning to a podcast of yesterday's Stephanie Miller show under the impression that it was today's. The topic they were discussing was how the wingers were freaking out over Stephanie saying that she wanted to kick Michelle Malkin in the nut sack and Rush Limbaugh in the vagina. Given how many freepers come to DL to try to fuck with us, I thought maybe this thread was some kind of stupid prank. I'm glad it's not. I think the lady's stone beautiful.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||08/13/2010|
What did Stephanie Miller say? How did she out herself?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||08/13/2010|
Yeah did she come out or not. I subscribe to her show but have found her too irritating to listen to lately. Was she just joking or how did she come out?
|by Anonymous||reply 114||08/13/2010|
Lazy Bones here again. Good for your Stephanie! (I knew it.) I am now happy that you automatically re-subscribed me to your podcast.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||08/13/2010|
I'm certainly not her PR person but I'm one of the ones who thought she was cute. I'd date her in a second.
I would think that she is an alcoholic. I've met a lot of lesbians who are so this does not surprise me.
I love Mama though. I've listened to her for many, many years and have learned a lot and laughed a lot. I was really happy to hear her come out today.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||08/13/2010|
I loved her in THE WIZ
|by Anonymous||reply 117||08/13/2010|
That was Ann Miller
|by Anonymous||reply 118||08/13/2010|
She's irrelevant.%0D %0D She defends Obama who has done NOTHING on DOMA and only pledged to end DADT (still waiting, Barry).%0D %0D Shes unfunny, her show sucks, she has the prissiest and closeted producer (WTF???), allowed jim Ward to skip the first hour (seriously hurting the show) -- now she has her SCREENER on. THE SCREENER!!! %0D %0D Her show is a mess. And so is she.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||08/13/2010|
You're an idiot, 119.
She's hilarious. Jim Ward renegotiated his contract with his union to get a later starting time. She had nothing to do with it. She's always had screeners that she interacts with as do many radio show hosts.
She likes Obama. Big deal.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||08/13/2010|
Let's see, what have we learned?
We've learned coming out for (lots of) lesbians is simply a decision of deciding and announcing. One day you're straight and one day you're not. (Two words to Chely Wright if she's crushing out on Steph: Julie Cipher.) Even though (most) gay men will fight to the death to declare they were born that way.
We've learned that even a daughter of Republican privilege who lives and dies by the ratings book is so frightened of being honest about herself that she projects it outward and worries that her coming out will somehow do damage to some sort of gay movement. What, GLAAD? HRC?
We've learned that a radio host who only reaches about 2.5 million listeners per week can behave in an erratic manner ("I'm going bi! Meaning I'm going to shuttle for some reason between New York City and Los Angeles to do my show!!! Shit! New York is expensive and it's really cramped for me and my ginormous pair of Great Pyrenes! Fuck it, I'm going back to LA even though these shenanigans have totally fucked my show up! I LOVE Frangela! I HATE Frangela and will never mention their name again even though I totally used them for black cred in the run up to the last presidential election! I drink! I drink too much!!! I have many future husbands! Chely Wright helped me decide I am a lesbian even though I am bisexual!"
We've learned that people can be flighty and kinda nuts but if they say they're gay there will always be a large number of people who think that makes them heroes.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||08/13/2010|
What's the hating Frangela thing about? I missed that.
You do know a lot about the show despite much of it irritating you.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||08/13/2010|
I've always wondered about the Frangela thing myself. They were her frequent guests and substitute hosts. Then they appeared on "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here" and, after one or two veiled remarks about "stupid shows where people eat bugs," Stephanie NEVER mentioned them again...even in passing.%0D %0D Someone earlier mentioned her producer Chris LaVoie being closeted. If you read through the comments on Stephanie Miller's home page today, several people say he's out and gave examples from his Twitter account where he said he stuff like he can't get married due to Prop 8 not passing, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||08/13/2010|
The show was dropped in my market, I used to listen to it on my old long commute. I was particularly devastated when the station it was on switched to a salsa format before I came home from work one day, because it was a week Stephanie was away and the show was being hosted by Merril Markoe and Elayne Boosler. THOSE days were great shows.
I still download Steph's Bits from the podcast, though I can't imagine people who pay to get all three hours per day. As it is, I now delete the politicians without listening to them because I am so sick of the Obama apologists. I grew weary of Maxine Waters's voice long before her current scandale. I was sick of closeted Chris Lavoie, although that's always struck me as odd since he has the textbook definition of gayvoice.
I dunno, I like Steph well enough, but her mercurial relationships and this new revelation just all add up to the feeling that something ain't right with that girl. Her skittish, caffeinated delivery can really get on my nerves.
And I have no idea why Frangela were disappeared from their regular gig, but I am sure Steph cut them out off for some sort of infraction or another.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||08/13/2010|
I've heard Stephanie's show a few times and I say, Brava! What Stephanie did is huge.
I work in the business...and it takes a lot of guts and courage to come out. I can't think of even one national radio host who has come out, ever. (The one I think of who's even gay -- Michael Signorelli -- was already out).
She could be dropped by sponsors, fired, lose ratings, etc., for coming out. If it were easy, people would do it all the time (Right, Matt Drudge?)
I work at a liberal leaning radio station and while I'm not in the closet, I've not come out on the air and I wouldn't. Neither have any of my gay colleagues. None of us are in a position to be unemployed if we did that and our bosses decided to let us go.
People get fired every day in the radio business for much less, so I give her credit for being out and honest. I wish her luck.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||08/13/2010|
She was fired from KFI in the 90's for covering too many gay stories. That kind of shit stays with you once you've been discriminated against like that.
I'm sorry, r121, but what she did was heroic. I wish we lived in a day when coming out was not a big deal, but in light of what's going on in America right now, we need all the help we can get.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||08/13/2010|
lol @ r101
|by Anonymous||reply 127||08/13/2010|
If I remember rightly, She simply started off by saying she's gay and then she said she's had sex with men but her most worthwhile relationships have been with women and her emotional bonding is with women and that she is gay. She said she couldn't believe that her listeners didn't know and was surprised to hear that they didn't. She sounded nervous but happy to do it. Coming out to a few people is one thing but this women came out to an industry and millions of people, it's not an easy thing to do. And I've known people who have found it hard to come out to their parents, etc. So not everyone has the same experience and for some it was a good one and for others is was a bad one so for people to dismiss others reality by saying it's not hard are ignoring the fact that not everyone's experiences are the same.
Chely didn't help her realize she was gay but that coming out would be a good thing. It does sound like she and Chely like each other very much. It will be interesting to see if something does develop or if it already has. Perhaps she needed to come out for Chely and their relationship? She said she's been out to her friends and family for quite a while and thought everyone knew. Apparently, Chely had asked her if she was gay when they met and it flustered her and Chely later apologized and said she didn't mean to put her on the spot. (That wasn't on the air I don't believe, just the story about her doing it.)
Her going back and forth from NY to LA could have been a relationship thing as well, I thought about that after I read she did that for a while and that she finally came back to LA to stay. Unless of course we hear she goes back to NY and then we perhaps can think it might again be for a relationship, perhaps with Chely?
I'm not totally convinced about the drinking, I mean she also calls herself a slut, doesn't mean that's the truth either. She made jokes about wanting future husbands, get a sense of humor people, it doesn't mean she wants one. It's a joke. People don't get sarcasm on here a lot of the times, I've noticed that. People will write something that I can see and a few others can as well as being very sarcastic and others will post as if it totally went over their heads and will not "get it" at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||08/13/2010|
Where can I hear Randi's response?
|by Anonymous||reply 129||08/13/2010|
r129 have you checked Randi's website? I haven't so not sure but many of these people have podcasts on their websites.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||08/13/2010|
No I just checked iTunes
|by Anonymous||reply 131||08/13/2010|
I'm not gonna buy a subscription just to listen to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||08/13/2010|
At first I thought the woman who wrote those Twilight books had come out.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||08/13/2010|
r132 you don't have to. You can listen to it for free on her website.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||08/13/2010|
I tried and it wanted me to subscribe.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||08/13/2010|
You can listen to the coming out segment on AfterEllen. Click on "Stephanie Miller - Steph Comes Out - 08/13/10" in the player. %0D %0D It's more like a sort of rambling conversation between her and Chris (?) than a coming out speech.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||08/13/2010|
No, I mean I want to listen to Randi's reaction. I've heard Stephanie's coming out.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||08/13/2010|
I cant believe people couldnt HEAR she was gay. She has typical dyke voice. Oh, and I think she's crushing on Chelly Wright
|by Anonymous||reply 138||08/14/2010|
who is her gf?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||08/14/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 140||08/14/2010|
Saying she couldn't believe people didn't know was a bit disingenuous. I've been listening to her for about four years and she never pinged for me. Unlike Randi Rhodes, who I was amazed to hear is in a LTR with a man. I guess she gives off a false New York Jewish ping. But then I have a similar history--most of my bed activity has been with males but my only really meaningful, lasting, satisfying relationships have been with women.
I would hate to think she was in New York for such a stereotypical reason as a new girlfriend. She said it was on Ed Schulz's advice, and certainly it gave her more visibility, as well as relieving her of the obligation to "go to bed at stupid o'clock and get up at insane o'clock."
|by Anonymous||reply 141||08/14/2010|
That was just a theory, she is supposedly single now and I too think she is crushing on Chely and perhaps visa versa. Maybe this is the gf that Hal Sparks was mentioning and no one mentioned the name because she wasn't out yet and now she's out there isn't a problem, especially since Hal knows Stephanie and that's why he would have mentioned the gf part but not the name until Stephanie was ready. Plus that might have been the reason Chely asked Stephanie if she was gay, she was interested.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||08/14/2010|
I always knew she was a lesbian. She pinged big time.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||08/14/2010|
[quote] Plus that might have been the reason Chely asked Stephanie if she was gay, she was interested.%0D %0D How did that come up? And what was Stephanies response?
|by Anonymous||reply 144||08/14/2010|
Not me. I'm usually really good at guessing (even about people who don't yet know, themselves), but I completely missed this one.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||08/14/2010|
[quote] She's not fugo but she is a drunk. She claims to be a lesbian %0D %0D Honey, if she's a drunk, then she's a lesbian. Not bisexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||08/14/2010|
r144 if you listen to the broadcast or read back in the thread you will have your answer. But if you are too lazy to do either one - when they first met they had a long discussion and Chely asked her that during the talk they had.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||08/14/2010|
[quote] Maybe this is the gf that Hal Sparks was mentioning and no one mentioned the name because she wasn't out yet and now she's out there isn't a problem, especially since Hal knows Stephanie and that's why he would have mentioned the gf part but not the name until Stephanie was ready%0D %0D She recently said that she is single. And that was after the Hal Sparks comment. I might be naive, but I think Chely would have mentioned that she is "not available". Or something like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||08/14/2010|
Well I hope you're right for both of them, it means I have a chance with both....kidding, well, maybe a little, you never know.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||08/14/2010|
At the risk of sounding like those (usually straight) people who think any two random gay people must be dating, I wonder whether Stephanie Miller is interested in Chely Wright, but Chely Wright won't date a closeted person.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||08/14/2010|
But Stephanie isn't closeted any longer. They aren't random, they know each other and apparently are good friends, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume they could end up together. Though you are right that just because they are two Lesbians that they can't just be friends.
Stephanie does seem to be the new "Chely". As each new Lesbian comes out, she'll be the "It" girl. Though I have to admit Suze didn't generate this amount of devotion when she came out so it might just be for a few.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||08/14/2010|
I think anyone could understand why Stephanie would be interested in Chely!
|by Anonymous||reply 152||08/14/2010|
Yeah, a plain, 40 year old, never was, fame whore, hick singer is a real catch.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||08/14/2010|
[quote]We've learned that people can be flighty and kinda nuts but if they say they're gay there will always be a large number of people who think that makes them heroes.
Pathetic isn't it. Go back into the closet Steffi...You ain't no lez just a drunken ho looking for attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||08/14/2010|
" Yeah, a plain, 40 year old, never was, fame whore, hick singer is a real catch. "%0D %0D R153%0D %0D %0D R153, if your description of "plain" is someone that resembles Chely Wright, let me assure you there's a whole lot bitches out there that sure in the hell wouldn't mind look'in a little plain. (rolling my eyes)%0D %0D And furthermore, "the never was" comment does not make sense from a factual point of view. In 1999, her fourth album, "Single White Female", brought her several hit songs and her first gold album certification. Chely Wright shared a nomination with Brad Paisley for Vocal Event Of The Year as part of the 35th Annual CMA Awards for their duet "Hard to Be a Husband, Hard to Be a Wife. "Wright was also featured in People magazine's "50 Most Beautiful People" in 2001. Chely Wright has been nominated and won quite a few awards from the Country Music Association, this association gives the highest honors in the country music category. %0D %0D Why let facts get in the way right?
|by Anonymous||reply 155||08/14/2010|
[quote]Or, perhaps she's worried about the stigmas surrounding [bold]coming out as bi (lying, slutty, poseur)[/bold] and figures gay is just more professionally acceptable.
Well by not saying she is really bisexual she is only reinforcing those bisexual stereotypes. She is also creating stereotypes about real lesbians. What a selfish bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 156||08/14/2010|
She's had a lot of work done, darling.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||08/14/2010|
[quote]Honey, if she's a drunk, then she's a lesbian. Not bisexual.
Ha, you read my mind.
Generally I get the impression she's a (formerly) closeted woman who tried to date men, not a real bisexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||08/14/2010|
I miss FRANGELA!
P.S. Congrats Steph.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||08/14/2010|
Suze Rosie Ellen Stephanie Oprah
If you want to be a successful talk show host, go gay, ladies!
|by Anonymous||reply 160||08/14/2010|
She's not saying she's bi because she doesn't identify as bi.
I'm as lesbian as they come. But even I can say men are attractive sometimes. That doesn't mean I'm bi, it just means I'm human. And yes I had a boyfriend in the past before I knew myself and no it still doesn't make me bi.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||08/14/2010|
r155: You have extremely low standards, but you probably have to.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||08/14/2010|
r161: But were you in love with men (plural)? Because she says she was in love with men she had sexual relationships with.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||08/14/2010|
Her comedic personna is of an easily arroused straight woman. I don't know where I heard that she is gay, Laura Flanders may have let it slip, but I've always thought Miller was gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||08/14/2010|
R162, do you know Chely Wright personally?%0D %0D And what "superstar" are you dating?%0D %0D You can disagree all day long about Chely not being your type in terms of looks, but to totally discount her career background is nothing short of ridiculous. To act as if Wright was just some obscure country singer singing in back alley bars is totally ludicrous.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||08/14/2010|
Why do we never ask women who they have sexual fantasies about? Men, women, both? %0D %0D For men, this is considered how you really determine sexual orientation. For women, it's all about "falling in love" and "relationships". I think it's just clouding the topic.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||08/14/2010|
r165: You are so fucking tedious. You're one of those people who, when they start speaking, everyone else just zones out. You're abrasive, boorish and thoroughly unlikable.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||08/14/2010|
I hate R165.%0D %0D And Stephanie Miller, too.%0D %0D Her show sucks.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||08/14/2010|
I liked Stephanie okay until she climbed up Obama's ass during the primary and began bashing Clinton, seemingly following both Randi Rhodes' lead and the official party line. At that point I found her intolerable and stopped listening.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||08/14/2010|
Labels are pointless. I do think a lot of these females coming out late in life are actually bisexual with a prefernece with pussy. I mean, what hetero female would say 'Ive fallen in love with women, i had sex with women, BUT Iam straight.' Come on. Rather dont label yourself
|by Anonymous||reply 170||08/14/2010|
r167/r168 You're f_cking idiot(s). You want to make a non-factual statement about Wright and continue to not answer germane questions. %0D %0D You are what's wrong the US right now. You are mindless idiots who do not know how to process factual information when it is provided for you on a silver platter. It' past your damn bedtime. Get lost.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||08/14/2010|
Human being have an innate compulsion to classify and sort the objects which comprise our realities.
There's nothing inherently wrong with this.
The problem arises when bullies make their way to the top of the heap, as they often do, and cast judgments on particular classifications and coerce their weaker minded allies to spread their bigotry.
It's ridiculous that a fifty year old woman (with a liberal fanbase, no less) should have waited so long to come out and equally ridiculous that she should come out as something she's not out of fear of being judged even more harshly, not being welcomed into the community, "harming the movement" or simply not being taken seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||08/14/2010|
Well said R172. Things will only improve when people get over themselves. And when that happens Datalounge will be obsolete. I like Steph and the Mooks because they make me laugh. Is it dumb that it makes me a little bit happy that SM came out? Probably, but it just does.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||08/14/2010|
And my question r153 is why isn't it? If she's also kind, smart, true, and a whole bunch of other good qualities I'd take that over a beautiful, successful, woman who is ugly on the inside. I believe your standards are low, but I also believe you're a troll, so I really shouldn't be feeding you.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||08/14/2010|
I was listening to last week Stephanie Miller show and she mentioned she had a cast on - why did she have a cast?
|by Anonymous||reply 175||08/14/2010|
R168 Please go slit your wrists and put yourself out of your misery.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||08/14/2010|
I meant R152 /162/163/167/169/172.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||08/14/2010|
r176 masturbates with roadkill
|by Anonymous||reply 178||08/14/2010|
r177 has maggots for brains
|by Anonymous||reply 179||08/14/2010|
I'm also as lesbian as they come but I love the male body and I am attracted to men, they are handsome and sexy. However, I've always felt the same, if not more about women. Would I date a man? Probably not. But I can appreciate them.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||08/14/2010|
Simple question, if she were not gay why would she come out as a lesbian? She made it clear she was a lesbian not bi. Clearly it was difficult for her. What is the upside aside from being out of the closet and being true to herself? I don't understand the anger some have at her for coming out.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||08/14/2010|
Shouldn't there be some way to differentiate between lesbians who are not physically attracted to men at all and those who are physically attracted to men but just do not want to be in relationships with them?%0D %0D I don't know how science is going to make any progress in the study of "sexual" orientation in women with the current confused situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||08/14/2010|
I am with r180. Love, love, love men - think they are cute, attracted to the mostly gayish ones though. But I cannot make a relationship with a man work well for me at all something is missing. I am by no means repulsed by men - even enjoyed sex with them but there was just a missing piece to the equation for me. I am pretty certain I will never date men again. However I know women who are completely repulsed by men. So I guess you can classify by sexual history as bisexual but my emotional history is not so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||08/15/2010|
Can the lesbians who are still attracted to men tell me if you have sexual fantasies about them (during or outside of sexual activity)? If so, is it only a once in a blue moon sort of thing or is it regularily?
|by Anonymous||reply 184||08/15/2010|
Go back and read the thread r181. We do not like bisexuals who call themselves lesbians. They're trying to seems legit to both sides so they go for the lesbian label--even though they're lying. One thing women do extremely well. The second thing women do well is rationalizing--which these types do when they're called out.
[quote]Can the lesbians who are still attracted to men
Those aren't lesbians they're bisexuals but they think they're just too damn good to call themselves that. And being women they just love to explore the minutia of every feeling and thought they ever had. Daddy always told them they were special and the dumb broads still believe it!
[quote]I don't know how science is going to make any progress in the study of "sexual" orientation in women with the current confused situation.
It isn't confused at all for anyone with any critical thinking skills and isn't married to political correctness. So don't worry your pretty little head about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||08/15/2010|
R185 I do agree there seems to be a much different standard for men than women. %0D %0D Can you imagine the grief a guy would get if he said he was "straight" and never wants a relationship with a guy, but is attracted to men, has enjoyed having sex with them, and still has constant sexual fantasies about them?
|by Anonymous||reply 186||08/15/2010|
I just realized I was describing Ted Haggard in R186.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||08/15/2010|
Well I am sorry guys but (and I do think it is mostly the guys who don't get this) I have dreams where I am having sex with a MAN but I haven't actually been with a man in 12 years. My last relationship was with a woman and it lasted 8 years. Mostly in my dreams I have sex with men but go no further than kissing with women. I am not attracted to butch women so the Chely wrights of the world look great to me. How "should" I "label" myself?
|by Anonymous||reply 188||08/15/2010|
R188-- how about "fucked up"?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||08/15/2010|
Oh, don't listen to these bitchy queens, R188. And don't worry about labels. Human sexuality is deliciously varied and broad. You are whatever you are and perfect in your own way for you.
(and your description of yourself could almost describe me perfectly. I met Chely Wright in person and she was smoking HOT!)
|by Anonymous||reply 190||08/15/2010|
I think the Stephanie & Chely would make a cute couple. I've seen Stephanie in person and she is cute (nice body too). I don't think she is as big of a drunk as she plays up on the show, just like she played up the "every guy is cute" angle. She always pinged to me - she and producer Chris have always had the double entendres going on. I haven't always been please with her show, she's not intellectual, it's more comedy than anything. I miss Elayne Boosler and Merrill Markoe (Frangela too).
|by Anonymous||reply 191||08/15/2010|
According to the admissions on this thread, there are no lesbians on DataLounge (and possibly in the world), all the queer women are varying degrees of bisexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||08/15/2010|
No self-respecting Gold Star* lesbian would spend 5 minutes in the this place, with all the hatred of dykes and women in general.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||08/15/2010|
Listen to Stephanie and Chely Wright discuss Stephanie's coming out. Click onto the link and then scroll down and click onto her radio announcement:
|by Anonymous||reply 194||08/15/2010|
Sometimes in the hysteria of a certain cultural event people convince themselves they are something they are not. This happens with hypochondriacs with every latest medical news story. People think they've got Lyme disease, West Nile or flesh eating bacteria. Steph probably just got caught up in the charged atmosphere of the Prop 8 ruling.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||08/15/2010|
Lol, so you're saying Steph's a hypochondriac who has misdiagnosed herself with lesbianism? Do you think she should see a doctor?
|by Anonymous||reply 196||08/15/2010|
I just think she'll feel a little foolish once the frenzy of the moment passes. Lots of people believed they repressed memories of sexual abuse after a slew of news stories on the topic, so it's not exactly a medical diagnosis, just a rewarding short term delusion. Thankfully, her forte is comedy so she can probably get past it with a little humor and humility.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||08/15/2010|
Can someone start this thread
The craigslist killer commits suicide
|by Anonymous||reply 198||08/15/2010|
There is already a thread about that, you asshole. Stop trolling other threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||08/15/2010|
It's only a matter of time before celebs come out of the closet for publicity, when they are totally straight. It's a good move for an obscure radio host.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||08/15/2010|
[quote] It's only a matter of time before celebs come out of the closet for publicity, when they are totally straight. It's a good move for an obscure radio host.
I'm pretty sure you don't work in the radio business then, my friend.
I do, and I've seen tons of my friends fired or laid off simply because the industry is in a death spiral.
No one, NOT ONE, has been spared or promoted because they are gay...or much less because they came out as gay. If coming out was really effective you'd see radio hosts coming out every day. You don't. Besides SM, can you name even one more?
Her move was historic, plain and simple.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||08/15/2010|
r201, I never coming out would stop someone from getting laid off. It does, however, provide them with publicity.
We all know who Stephanie Miller is now.
Last week, we didn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||08/15/2010|
*I never said..
|by Anonymous||reply 203||08/15/2010|
I knew who she was last week. I've known who she is for years. And I doubt she'd be a regular Larry King guest if I've been the only person aware of her existence.
Anyone with the slightest interest in progressive politics has at least heard her name batted around once or twice.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||08/15/2010|
She tested exceptionally well with her on air audition for the spot following the firing of Imus. She didn't get the gig because of her dipsomania, hence Morning Joe.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||08/15/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 206||08/15/2010|
I love how some people like r202 think if they've never heard of a certain person in the media, that person was just a nobody.
Stephanie is a known entity in progressive talk radio. She's been around for a long time. She's not a big name like Rush Limbaugh, but that doesn't diminish her own accomplishments.
She's been a guest commentator on Larry King, CNN and on MSNBC.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||08/15/2010|
R207. I remember when Stephanie Miller had a radio show on KFI AM 640 in Los Angeles in the early 1990s. She followed John & Ken's radio show. She was very funny then and used to chat a bit with John & Ken before her show would begin airing.%0D %0D Stephanie fell out of favor with me when she nonstop bashed Hillary and kissed Obama's ass daily during the presidential primary. I haven't forgiven or forgotten her rants against Hillary. She was obsessive about Obama. It got tiring and monotonous.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||08/15/2010|
r208, I'm in the same boat as you. During the reign of Bush, I listened to Air America and any progressive radio station I could find.
But something happened during the Primary. These same "progressives" were attacking a woman who had been there for them for a new guy so few even knew about. Randy Rhoades in particular, called her a "whore," and attacked Geraldine Ferraro. I stopped listening to Air America (including my beloved Rachel). Stephanie became an Obama sycophant. I stopped listening to her, too.
Honestly, my "relationship" with progressive talk radio and media personalities has never been the same.
Despite all this, it irks me when someone dismisses a person's accomplishment just b/c they have never heard of said person.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||08/15/2010|
Very often closeted lesbians hate powerful women, r 208. Just saying.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||08/15/2010|
R210 Good point. Need to start watching for that.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||08/15/2010|
So does anyone know what kind of women Stephanie has dated in the past?
|by Anonymous||reply 212||08/15/2010|
It would be hard to guess, r212. I had a bunch of "best bits" from teh Stephanie Miller show stockpiled on my ipod, from a few weeks ago right up until the day she came out. (The best bits are the free segments you can get every day from teh show).%0D %0D The day before she came out, Stephanie did her usual bit of going on and on about spending Sunday in bed with Frank Rich and how she would love to be in a spoon sandwich in bed on a Sunday morning between Frank Rich and David Gregory and how patient their wives were with her lusting after their husbands. The day BEFORE she "named her truth" and was "surprised" people didn't already know.%0D %0D In every bit I listened to from the week before her big announcement, Stephanie specifically talked about her future husbands and any time there was anything negative discussed about any man, Stephanie talked about how she had "dated him". %0D %0D The only Sapphic-lite thing she ever said in the bits I listened to, were when she mentioned Aisha Tyler being "hot AND smart" and how much guys like that.%0D %0D True, it was moving when she came out, and when she told the story of the right wing guy calling her when his lesbian sister killed herself, but really, to pretend she hadn't kept up a much more believable facade of heterosexuality than any closeted lesbian in the public eye during the past decade and a half is to be far too generous to her.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||08/16/2010|
I guess I was typing "teh" above message really quickly.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||08/16/2010|
[quote]I do, and I've seen tons of my friends fired or laid off simply because the industry is in a death spiral.
We're in a painful interim period.
Some day soon, owning a radio license and transmitter won't mean much as mobile internet becomes cheap and ubiquitous. Most all content of value will be web content.
Those of us who've toiled in the Bozo's broadcast vineyards will laugh...and laugh!
|by Anonymous||reply 215||08/16/2010|
I really don't get all the hatred people are spewing over this. The woman came out. She is a nationally recognized person - that takes courage no matter what age you are.
Instead of congratulating her, all we can talk about is she's ugly, she's a nobody, she's an alcoholic, she's vile because she's telling people she is a lesbian when she should categorize herself as bi.
If the vitriol of this thread is any indication, it's a wonder why anybody of national prominence ever comes out.
Glad you bitches weren't around when I came out. You really know how to kill a party.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||08/16/2010|
R216, you are right on the mark! %0D %0D I caught the last 15 minutes today of Stephanie's radio show and she and one of her male sidekicks on the show made a reference to the negativity about her coming out that is being voiced by some gays. She basically stated all the nonsense points that we've read on this thread. She brushed it off and moved on. I say good for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||08/16/2010|
That's because Chris Lavoie, her producer is a datalounger so I'm sure he's reading this thread.
And I agree, r216. People are cruel.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||08/16/2010|
I used to listen to her show regularly but once I realized that she drank the Obama koolaid (and still does), I found other stations to listen to. Don't get me wrong, I voted for Obama in the election but I wasn't blinded by his charm. SM is still blinded, based on the few times I've checked out her show since then. And yes, I did vote for HC in primaries but I wasn't suicidal when she lost. For me, it was more about getting the Republicans out.%0D %0D Listening to her interview w/ Chely Wright, it sounds like a hook up but CW decided that she couldn't deal w/ being with someone still in the closet so SM had to jump out of that closet door and fast.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||08/16/2010|
I don't really understand why pointing out that Stephanie Miller spent years, right up until the day before she came out (even though she can't believe she had to come out), flirting with men, fantasizing about men, and talking about men, men, men as her lust and love objects, is characterized as "hate."
It's just... odd. And worthy of being pointed out, given how long folks on DL held up Rosie's Tom Cruise crush for YEARS as an example of hypocrisy, even though Rosie stated her boundaries THEN so she didn't have to state them NOW by repeating it wasn't a sexual thing.
I basically like Steph and download her best bits, (because she isn't even on in my radio market, as she is not in many around the country, which could have a little something to do with people genuinely not knowing who the hell she is). And, you know, good for her for "living her truth." I've just never seen somebody go to such lengths to hide that truth, right up to the day before the big announcement.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||08/16/2010|
I think one of the two theories batted around upthread must be right. That she outed herself before an "enemy" who was threatening to could out her or that Chely wouldn't give her any unless she was out.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||08/16/2010|
Well I have been listening to her for quite a while. I think the show is funny and I like Jim's voices. I am a lesbian and was completely stunned when she came out. Yes, I was stunned because of her comments about men. Yes she has also talked about her friendship with lesbians but I just thought she was gay friendly (as they say). Do I hate her for it? Nope, I am just glad she came out! Her giving Obama too much room to wriggle out of things bothers me much more. About Chely and Steph hooking up, the minute they would start dating the closet door would have FLOWN open anyway. So I don't thing that is it.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||08/16/2010|
I think it had something to do with Chely for sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||08/16/2010|
She said Chely inspired her to come out. I don't think she came out to be with Chely. Since Chely is sooooo out now if SM were to be with her all the time it would be the equivalent of coming out. I do think they would make a smashing couple!
|by Anonymous||reply 224||08/16/2010|
R220 The question will be, will she continue the jokes about men now that she's out. Since she says she's still attracted to men, she might. Maybe she'll just start adding women as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||08/16/2010|
She still talks about men in the same way. I think that is who she is so it isn't going to change. But it is precisely because of how she talks about men that resulted in people being surprised when she came out. I am not saying she was dishonest because I would not know, but she most definitely talked a lot about attraction to men onher show. On the other hand, it was ver clear that she is close to Melissa E and Lily T etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||08/17/2010|
Stephanie Miller isn't gay. She must have been bombed out of her skull [as usual] when she said it.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||08/17/2010|
This thread is heavily freeper infested.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||08/17/2010|
She's a natural born flirt by her own admission, so of course she'll still talk about men which doesn't bother me at all. I'm glad she came out but was also surprised. I like her and hope that she does well.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||08/17/2010|
For those that do not know who Stephanie is, she will be on Larry King tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||08/17/2010|
Advocate interview with Step. Even her father knew which means she's been out a long time.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||08/17/2010|
She looks great!
You bitches who think that she's ugly, are just evil!
|by Anonymous||reply 232||08/17/2010|
For god's sake, her father knew? That just makes the overcompensating with the guys-guys-guys talk even harder to take. I'm glad she's out, I'm glad she's happy, hell, I'm a private person too but nobody has ever heard me talk about my girlfriend in Canada or how I want to spoon with Katie Couric.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||08/17/2010|
She is so not funny. So not bright.%0D %0D She suffers from delusions of adequacy.%0D %0D But glad she finally came out...hardly a surprise, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||08/17/2010|
She's a lesbian. She's 48, relatively attractive (by normal standards, maybe not showbiz standards), has never been married or had kids.
Attractive bi women who have a choice of men or women don't escape marriage and children for 48 years.
The fact that she obviously wanted to like men and tried to, pretended to, jokes around that she does, whatever, doesn't change the obvious.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||08/17/2010|
What r235 said. If she were bisexual, she'd be married and preggers by some dude by now.
That's almost always how it works out.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||08/17/2010|
[quote] That's almost always how it works out.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||08/17/2010|
It would be funny though if she met some guy and started dating him on the down low, to keep up her lesbian street cred.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||08/17/2010|
r237 knows it's true.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||08/17/2010|
It's not true. What is true is that you're a bigot. You have a bias against bisexuals. You're no better than Dr. Laura or Mrs. Helen Bedd or Fred Phelps. You're a bigot. Congratulations.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||08/17/2010|
LOL. Ahh, you make me laugh. How can you type with little balled fists?
|by Anonymous||reply 241||08/17/2010|
You're pathetic, r241.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||08/17/2010|
In the Advocate interview, Stephanie says she hasn't dated men in nearly twenty years. She also says she enjoys sex with men and women equally.%0D %0D Just speculating here, but I wonder if she's had some hook ups with men more recently than her last boyfriend.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||08/17/2010|
I'm not biphobic. I'm just saying that truly bisexual women tend to end up with men and children. If a majority of lesbians nod their head to this because they've seen it happen repeatedly, it's more than my own bias.
And besides, why do you perceive that to be an insult? All I said is that they end up with men and kids. What do you have against men and children?
|by Anonymous||reply 244||08/17/2010|
Who has she dated? Weren't there photos of her with a woman and her dogs floating around last year or something?
|by Anonymous||reply 245||08/17/2010|
R244 I would say historically you are correct. Especially among women who are not publically out as bi.%0D %0D However, going forward, I do not think is going to be the case. With greater societal acceptance of homosexuality, same sex marriage, more people not marrying and/or having kids, I think a lot more bi women will end up with other women.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||08/17/2010|
I will conceded that I think your theory is possible, r246.
The "men's" side still has a few things going for it -- first and foremost, numbers.
If all the closets were to be opened, I still think people inclined to have same-sex relationships would be in the minority. Meaning, I think there will probably always be more available men for a bisexual woman than other queer women. How that might play out in the future -- I dont know.
I'm a lesbian, btw. I don't really have a dog in this fight. I'm in my 30s now, so I've been seeing a lot of "queer" bisexual girls settling down with husbands lately. Come to think of it, I cant think of a single "bisexual" female friend or acquaintance who ended up with another woman. Exceptions must exist. I just dont know any.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||08/17/2010|
R247 When some of these women start getting divorced in 5-10 years, they'll be back.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||08/17/2010|
She was on Larry King tonight talking about Prop 8
|by Anonymous||reply 249||08/17/2010|
What time and what coast? Larry King had Dr. Laura and Kathy Griffin on when I watched it on the West Coast
|by Anonymous||reply 250||08/18/2010|
R250, after the Dr. Laura and Kathy Griffin segments, there was a debate on Prop 8 between Stephanie Miller and the San Francisco D.A. vs. Dennis Prager and Bishop Harry Jackson.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||08/18/2010|
Was her coming out addressed in the segment?
|by Anonymous||reply 252||08/18/2010|
Yes, R252. She discussed it with Larry.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||08/18/2010|
Same stuff as the Advocate interview and on her show or were new things talked about? Did she seem nervous? Was Larry coherent?
|by Anonymous||reply 254||08/18/2010|
I'd like to know how many bisexual women there are over 45 who are with women. I'm guessing zero.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||08/18/2010|
No, she didn't seem that nervous, R254. She said it was time for gays to stop watching from the sidelines and come down into the battle and speak out for gay marriage.
Larry was pretty good and managed to keep the Prop 8 debate on track.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||08/18/2010|
I read this as Stephanie Meyer and felt a sharp sting of compassion for the entire lesbian community.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||08/18/2010|
Why, R255? Are you saying bi women all end up with men?
|by Anonymous||reply 258||08/18/2010|
I found it interesting in the Advocate interview where she says when one of her earlier relationships with a woman broke up she dated men again for a brief time but came back to women. With women she falls hard and it's not just about sex but what it sounds like is that with men it's just about sex. If she's Bi, she leans more toward us than men.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||08/18/2010|
joemygodblogspot.com has posted the videos of the Larry King debate.
Check them out here:
|by Anonymous||reply 260||08/18/2010|
I love the SM show but if the whole prop 8 thing was so important to her, why didn't she come out before the big vote last year? Not sure it would've helped but honestly, using this ruling as the impetus isn't holding water.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||08/18/2010|
The stakes have gotten higher since then, R261
|by Anonymous||reply 262||08/18/2010|
Exactly. So, the more people who come out the BETTER. We just may as well stop bitching and moaning about how or when or why they come out!
|by Anonymous||reply 263||08/19/2010|
Looks like Stephanie was on the Joy Behar show last night, talking about Dr Laura.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||08/20/2010|
OK, Laura Flanders IS out:
"When my life partner, Laura Flanders, turned forty a few years ago, I wanted to give her a supreme and symbolic gift. I conceived of a fire dance, a conceptual one. I named it %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CBlazeAway.%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9D It was performed to a Melissa Etheridge song with the lyric, %C3%A2%C2%80%C2%9CI%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99m the only one who%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99d walk across the fire for you... "
|by Anonymous||reply 265||08/20/2010|
R261, I'm not sure there were a lot of Stephanie's regular listeners who needed to be swayed to vote no on 8 by her lesbianism.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||08/20/2010|
So I listened to more highlights from the week on her show. She's even more caffeinated and gaspy than usual. Lots of enabling from Chris Lavoie about how everybody "lives their truth" at their own pace. Lots of Stephanie saying how she didn't/doesn't want the show to become about nothing but her being gay and how (really, can't we say this next bit all together now?) she "never wanted to be a flag waver" and she's always been very private.
THEN she said she's always believed that if EVERYBODY came out tomorrow there would be no more anti-gay prejudice and gay marriage would pass tomorrow once everybody has somebody in their life to put a human face on the issue.
So, in conclusion, one week later Stephanie still sounds conflicted and is justifying EVERYTHING in a way that sounds like it's more for her own benefit.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||08/20/2010|
She sounds like she needs a shrink.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||08/20/2010|
She's talking about coming out to the people in your life, which she has been for many years. Her coming out on the radio was a bit different and not something she necessarily had to do to change minds. In fact, it might have hurt her with some of her listeners. I'd rather that she did it this way with bringing people to her show that aren't labeling her as gay and then letting them know later that she was.
I see nothing contradictory in what she said, r267. Sorry you don't get it.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||08/20/2010|
Leave Britney, I mean Stephanie ALOOONE!
|by Anonymous||reply 270||08/20/2010|
From the Advocate interview:%0D %0D [italic] The other thing I said to her (Chely Wright) is I sort of always thought that when I was in a significant relationship again, I would just naturally talk about it. That also hit home with me when she said when you make choices in the dark, you%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99re gonna choose some twisted, dysfunctional people sometimes. She said, "You don%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99t have to dig through the Dumpsters for your life partner," and I thought, that%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%99s true.[/italic]%0D %0D That's quite an intelligent (and true) statement from Chely. Love her even more.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||08/21/2010|
No new posts since the 21st of August. I guess we are over it.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||08/26/2010|
So I'm wondering r271 is she talking about it now because she's headed into a relationship with Chely?
And you're right that is an intelligent statement from Chely.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||08/26/2010|
I like the SM show. But the whole "I am a private person" only helps to make Steph feel okay about her decision to be closeted on her show. She was not private about her past boyfriends. She reminds us about her HS boyfriend and of course her crushes on Hal etc. I think she would have been better off just saying I wa not comfortable being out on the radio. No need to rationalize further.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||08/28/2010|
Honey, when you get a radio show, you do that.%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 275||08/28/2010|
Yes that is my point. She does not have to go on about how private she is. She just has to say "I wasn't comfortable" coming out on my radio show. The other disturbing thing was both hers and Chely's reaction when she asked SM if she was gay. I'm so tired of that being a "bad" question. It is like one is asking "are you an ax murderer?". Ugh when will it end?
|by Anonymous||reply 276||08/28/2010|
Great, but who the fuck is she?
|by Anonymous||reply 277||11/24/2011|
Stephanie will be on Current Tv as of this Monday March 26th.
They will be broadcasting her radio show for three hours per day.
I'm kinda excited because I don't get to listen to her.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||03/22/2012|
Stephanie Miller has a gf.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||03/23/2012|