Have there ever been any studies that indicate whether there are more gay youth today than there were a generation or two back? I ask because I remember a time when it was unusual to meet a young person with the stereotypical gay voice, sterotypical gay gestures, etc. Now it seems like half the boys I see working in stores and restaurants or walking down the street with friends have effeminate qualities. (I know...that doesn't mean they're necessarily gay.) Is it because kids today are less uptight about how they behave than they were years ago? Because more boys are being raised by women (divorced moms) and spending less time with men? Or has the number of gay young people really gone up in the past 10-15 years?
More Gay Today?
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 57||09/17/2013|
Better recruiting efforts.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 1||08/03/2010|
Hey, if the gay boys today feel free to be themselves and aren't butching it up out of terror, I'm thrilled! %0D %0D Also, some straight hipster boys can be mistaken for twinks, with their androgynous skinny pants and long hair. %0D
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 2||08/03/2010|
"Because more boys are being raised by women (divorced moms) and spending less time with men?"%0D %0D %0D %0D %0D Being raised by a woman doesn't make you effeminate. My cousin was raised by a single mom and never knew his dad, but he's a macho straight redneck.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 3||08/03/2010|
I was a big sissy boy who learned to be quiet and unobtrusive in order to survive. If you see more femme teens today than before, maybe it's because they don't have to hide anymore.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 4||08/03/2010|
It might seem like there are more young gays than middle aged gays because a lot of the older guys were wiped out by the AIDS crisis
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 5||08/03/2010|
It's just fashionable at the moment. There are no more gay men than in the past.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 6||08/03/2010|
OP--Did you grow up where you now live?
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 7||08/03/2010|
"Because more boys are being raised by women (divorced moms) and spending less time with men?"%0D %0D Jesus, OP, are you Jerry Falwell? That is such a stupid, bigoted idea I can't believe a gay man would even write it.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 8||08/03/2010|
I work in a college and the level of male hotness seems to improve each year. Not that I'm complaining.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 9||08/03/2010|
"It's just fashionable at the moment"%0D %0D %0D %0D %0D Um,no. It's not fashionable for teen boys. Teen boys still use "fag" as an insult.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 10||08/03/2010|
Depends where you live R10. The skinny jeans, eyeliner, man bag, pointy toed boots look is very popular with gay, straight and undecided under 25s where I live.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 11||08/03/2010|
Please tell us where you live, R11. Skinny jeans are definitely popular in my age group, but the others? Not so much.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 12||08/03/2010|
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 13||08/03/2010|
OP, youth haven't changed, you have. When you are young, the masculinity bar is quite a bit lower. When you are older, all youth seem effeminate and you can no longer distinguish which ones are butch.%0D
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 14||08/03/2010|
A saleswoman in Macy's told me last month that hardly any male under 35 (and even some older guys) buys anything other than skinny or slim straight pants anymore. The big baggy stuff is no longer cool.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 15||08/03/2010|
Studies show that more and more women over 30 who previously id-ed at straight become lesbians, however I would think that the opposite is true for men, most young gay men like to think of themselves as bisexual and most bisexual men think of themselves as straight. I think once over 30, most bi men also end up with women.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 16||08/03/2010|
[quote]Studies show that more and more women over 30 who previously id-ed at straight become lesbians.%0D %0D Want some mustard with that baloney?
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 17||08/04/2010|
OP is an idiot who subscribes to "nurture" vs "nature" causality of homosexuality.
Give it up. Gramps. Your day is past.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 18||08/04/2010|
OP masticates his coffee.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 19||08/04/2010|
It's BPA in the plastic, leeching into our food, and feminizing us (it acts in the body like an estrogen). Seriously. Look it up.%0D %0D
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 20||08/04/2010|
More and more of them are out of the closet, and thus trying not to butch it up (and or being exposed to stereotypical gay behavior and "adopting" the affectations in order to "belong").%0D
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 21||08/04/2010|
Don't know if they're gay, but I see more boys and men exhibiting effeminate characteristics now than a decade ago.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 22||08/04/2010|
That should read, "Not trying to butch it up" (because they're closeted and don't want anyone to know).%0D
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 23||08/04/2010|
Life will knock you around no matter whether you are effeminate or not. Only the tough survive. Some men are better men with those sybillant "s" sounds than the macho poseur assholes. It's all about being strong. And real.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 24||08/04/2010|
[quote]Is it because kids today are less uptight about how they behave than they were years ago?%0D %0D Yes, they can be more open about trying new things.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 25||08/04/2010|
I suspect, although we're not 100 percent there, that there seems to be "more gay today" because society is more accepting of us.%0D %0D On a side note, I wish this horrendous "fashion" for skinny jeans and anti-fit/let's look like we can't dress properly jeans goes away asap; I've yet to see a guy look good in either style. Skinny jeans can look ok on women, but you also get many more lard-arses with muffin-tops trying to wear them too. I think it would be better for all concerned if they just fell out of fashion again.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 26||08/04/2010|
My job take me thru a VERY rural town. One day I saw a young fagula walking down the street, not hiding. I thought that was very cool. Just yesterday, I was driving thru and there was a gaggle of gays at some town square party, just being themselves. I was very suprised and happy for them as this is really nowhere-land.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 27||08/04/2010|
LOL. A "gaggle of gays", R27???%0D %0D That would be a great bumper sticker: "I saw a gaggle of gays in nowhere-land!"
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 28||08/18/2010|
Sounds like a Morrissey lyric, R28
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 29||08/18/2010|
I saw a gaggle of gays at the beach yesterday.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 30||08/18/2010|
I think kids have an easier time coming out these days. I have linked a video about a police beating of a gay couple in Denver. Can someone please start a thread? They were beaten after leaving a bar, and charges were not pressed against the police.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 31||08/18/2010|
what are "anti-fit/let's look like we can't dress properly jeans"?
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 32||08/18/2010|
OP, I think it's a combination of your idiosyncratic perceptions and where you choose to shop. I am 52 years old, and have seen no change either way in the proportion of effeminate men in various places. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 33||08/18/2010|
I'm also in my 50's and I sense that more and more "primarily straight" guys seem more interested and/or open to sex with men. I think a lot of it has to do with the internet. Sex with guys is simply easier to find, less hassle and--at least with a number of straight guys--not a particular taboo like it used to be. A decade or more ago, you had to actually make an effort to meet up with a guy to have sex (i.e., go to a gay bar, etc.), whereas now you can set it up in the privacy of your own room. I, in fact, know a few guys like this. Call 'em bi or whatever, but it seems a lot more common these days.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 34||08/18/2010|
I'm 20, Gay and I live in LA. From what I've noticed amongst my youth, I've predicted that all these dudes who claims to be straight will come out of the closet within the next five to ten years. My female friends always tell me about the issues they have with their boyfriends or guys who they are fucking around with. By hearing their stories I can tell which dude is gay or straight. It seems like some of these "straight guys" out here tell gay jokes, use feminine products from bath and body works after showering, dress fashionable, arch their eyebrows, and whine/bitch out more than their girlfriends do when they don't get their way. It's like role reversal or some in the current dating world for young single people 18-25 out here in LA. Plus when it comes to the subject of pleasure aka "Sex" the majority of my female friends tell me that it seems like the only thing the guys care about are blowjobs. I've asked the little straight male friends I do have about what they cared for the most? A blowjob or sexual intercourse. The five of my straight male friends gave the same answer "PUSSY!" This makes me believe that all the guys out there who care more about blowjobs rather than full on sex are more likely to jerk off with another guy, or let another guy blow them. Thus leading to gay sex later on when they finally admit to themselves that they want to bend their best friend over and fuck him. The whole BROMANCE concept is bullshit too. It's just a starter excuse to slowly accept the fact that you might have a homosexual attraction towards men who like the same things as you and you don't find them as threat to you socially and sexually. In High school I caught so many of my male classmates staring at each other on numerous occasions as if they were about to jump each others bones and start making out. But when nutrition would hit they'd be all hugged up and kissing on their girlfriends while probably imagining having each others tongues in their mouths. Yea there's a lot of openly gay youth out and about today but trust me! There's a hell of a lot more that are about to break onto the scene real soon.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 36||05/24/2011|
I don't think percentage wise anything has changed, but there are.
1. More people generally, thus the number of gays is more, even if the percentage is similar.
2. More out gays.
3. Much more visibility via internet, social media, etc.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 37||05/24/2011|
[quote]I'm also in my 50's and I sense that more and more "primarily straight" guys seem more interested and/or open to sex with men. I think a lot of it has to do with the internet.
Studies show the opposite. 30 years ago, the percentage of straight-identified young men with same-sex experiences was much higher than now.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 38||05/24/2011|
[quote] I remember a time when it was unusual to meet a young person with the stereotypical gay voice, sterotypical gay gestures, etc.
Violence against gays used to be more prevalent. There was more motive to "straighten up" until you could get out of Hooterville and escape to the city.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 39||05/24/2011|
what r37 said.
OP seems dim.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 40||05/24/2011|
Maybe the average woman today is becoming less sexually desirable and more guys are looking for something else.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 43||09/10/2011|
I get in so much trouble doing my gay youth surveys. Knowing how teenagers lie, I insist they prove they are gay and that's when the trouble begins. Seems they just can't accept my request for a sex act is for verification purposes only.
Who in their right mind would choose to have sex with over amp'd, under experienced youths?
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 44||09/10/2011|
I think the whole gay fad is dying out. It was big in the 60's and 70's but the AIDS epidemic was a killer for the entire genre. Those into retro sometimes identify as gay as long as they don't have to have sex with another guy.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 45||09/10/2011|
It is simply that with the internet, it is much easier for young gays to find other people to talk about and work out their feelings earlier. When I was a kid, I felt I had no one to talk to about being gay, so I bottled up my emotions and stayed in the closet. I was 29 before I found someone to talk to about it, and started coming out. I am 42 now.
I knew I was gay, but was afraid of being attacked or losing my family.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 46||09/10/2011|
Guys are more femme today. Some point to plastic as the cause.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 47||09/12/2011|
the way i see it, there are just so much more lesbians than ever before. why the hell is this? women being attracted to other women. are there any straight decent women left, for straight men like me that hope to meet a nice woman today. i do blame these type of women out there because, many women today have become very nasty and have a no good attitude now. even the straight women are not looking for men, like they use too.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 48||12/26/2011|
"Taylor Lautner is gay" is the #1 trending topic on twitter. Wow.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 49||12/26/2011|
r49 did he come out?
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 50||12/26/2011|
R48 you are gay gay gay. Stop fooling yourself.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 51||12/26/2011|
lesbians are everywhere these days, and it is so very sad.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 52||02/03/2013|
well i know one thing, the lesbian population is certainly out of control these days. very obvious, why us straight guys can't seem to meet a decent woman anymore.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 53||04/30/2013|
A question. If the theory that the more sons a woman has the more likely they are to be gay is true ( I.e. a second son is more likely to be gay than a first son and so on), does this then mean that there are actually likely to be fewer gay men around as families become much smaller? Not sure I believe the theory but this thought did cross my mind when I read it.
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 55||09/17/2013|
I appreciate r36's post. Refreshing
|by Alfred Kinsey||reply 57||09/17/2013|