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Sixteen Candles

Is one of the few absolutely perfect movies. Actors, characters, story, dialog.

by Anonymousreply 14112/10/2012

On TCM this evening. One of the few chances we get to see Michael Schoeffling.

by Anonymousreply 107/15/2010

I didn't see the first 15 minutes. Did they bleep out "I can't believe the fuckin' forgot my birthday."? They, apparently, didn't bleep anything else.

by Anonymousreply 207/15/2010

I watched it too last night. I thought about buying the DVD for my teenage nieces but as much as I love this movie, I really don't want them watching something that promotes drinking and driving, date rape and Asian stereotypes.

by Anonymousreply 307/16/2010

Jesus, TCM, now I feel old.

by Anonymousreply 407/16/2010

Molly Ringwald's face, when her grandmother suggests she take Long Duck Dong to the dance is priceless!

by Anonymousreply 507/16/2010

Love the grandparents.

by Anonymousreply 607/16/2010

re Michael Schoeffling - why did he never achieve a little more success?

by Anonymousreply 707/16/2010

I still always say "the Donga need food" when I'm hungover and hungry.

by Anonymousreply 807/16/2010

He was just another pretty face and had really nothing to distinguish him from similar actors.

by Anonymousreply 907/16/2010

Joan Cussack was hysterical in this without uttering a single word.

by Anonymousreply 1007/16/2010

Michael Schoeffling was so fucking hot. Wonder if he aged well?

by Anonymousreply 1107/16/2010

Yeah Jake was my first gay crush. I was in 5th grade.

by Anonymousreply 1207/16/2010

'one of the few absolutely perfect movies. Actors, characters, story, dialog.'%0D %0D That's setting the bar awfully low, OP.

by Anonymousreply 1307/16/2010

It's pretty good and very entertaining but it's hardly perfect.

by Anonymousreply 1407/16/2010

Was that the first bare female breasts ever shown on TCM? I don't remember another instance.

by Anonymousreply 1507/16/2010

I guess I had never seen an uncensored version of Sixteen Candles. I was surprised at the nudity and Molly Ringwald saying "fuck" and "shit".%0D %0D I always thought John Hughes was more of a "G" writer.

by Anonymousreply 1607/16/2010

The scenes with her panties always troubles me. The way Jake holds them and sort of fondles them is really creepy, and you just sit there scared to death that he's going to sniff them.

by Anonymousreply 1707/16/2010

Fred, she's gotten her boobies. Oh, and they are so perky!

by Anonymousreply 1807/16/2010

"Voila! Breakfast is served!"%0D %0D Love Carole King.

by Anonymousreply 1907/16/2010

Carole King was in "Sixteen Candles"?

by Anonymousreply 2007/16/2010

You mean Carole Cook. %0D %0D SIXTEEN CANDLES may not be absolutely perfect. But it maintains a consistently funny tone with lots of surprises from start to finish.

by Anonymousreply 2107/16/2010

"I'd like to apologize for my sister. She's a little out of it."%0D %0D the late Zelda Rubinstein: "A LITTLE?"

by Anonymousreply 2207/16/2010

The whole Long Duck Dong thing is cringe-worthy today. Really dates the film. Everything is perfect, though. I had a crush on Jake, too!

by Anonymousreply 2307/16/2010

Well, it only earns two stars in my cable guide. Leonard Maltin only gives it two and a half stars.

by Anonymousreply 2407/16/2010

The "if you're a bitchy, sexually active girl, you're a whore who deserves to be raped while you're unconscious" theme is troubling.

The rest of the movie is pretty funny.

by Anonymousreply 2507/16/2010

They fuckin' forgot my birthday

by Anonymousreply 2607/16/2010

Are we still having dinner with the Rice Chex?

by Anonymousreply 2707/16/2010

I always hated Molly's best friend in this. What a mega-cunt.

by Anonymousreply 2807/16/2010

R28, but you had to love her cool date at the dance who snapped his fingers at "the geek."

by Anonymousreply 2907/16/2010


"She's totally serious, asswipe!"

by Anonymousreply 3007/16/2010

"Perfect" dialogue from "Sixteen Candles":%0D %0D Jake Ryan: "I can get a piece of ass anytime I want. Shit, I've got Caroline in the bedroom right now, passed out cold. I could violate her ten different ways if I wanted too."%0D %0D The Geek: [almost chokes on a pretzel] "What are you waiting for?"%0D %0D Long Duk Dong: "No more yankie my wankie. The Donger need food." %0D

by Anonymousreply 3107/16/2010

This "perfect" movie has one of the most racist depictions of an Asian person in movie history. And the joke about raping a passed out girl: "what are you waiting for?" Yech!

by Anonymousreply 3207/16/2010

Sixteen Candle mavens -- help with a song used in the movie?

The scene: she is leaving the dance at the gym and is retrieving her coat from the pile of coats left on some tables by the attendees.

Song has a strong guitar riff.

This song is NOT on the movie soundtrack but was used in the theatrical release of the film.

Anyone know the song I am trying to find out the name of?


by Anonymousreply 3307/16/2010

R32, let's be honest: It's the way teen boys talk.

by Anonymousreply 3407/16/2010

It's awful. %0D %0D John Hughes was a racist and right-wing thug who made Hollywood money. This is why he was not called out on his politics like Charlton Heston or Chuck Norris. Bad director, vicious attitude, and anyone over 17 knows the films suck. %0D %0D Worst thing about his career? Made dumbing down chic. There is a direct line from "Sixteen Candles" to Adam Sandler and Jim Carrey. Dumb, dumber, dumbest.

by Anonymousreply 3507/16/2010

R35, I just looked up who he donated to and you're correct about his being a rightwinger, up until 2007. He gave to Obama, Biden, ACTBlue and some Dem in IL, but previous to that, he gave to the worst of the worst: Tancredo, JD Hayworth and both Bush assholes.

by Anonymousreply 3607/16/2010

My favorite John Hughes movie. The great thing about the movie is that all of the characters have some terrific moments. His later flims tended to be dominated by the stars and didn't have as many quirky moments.

by Anonymousreply 3707/16/2010

r35 = killjoy

by Anonymousreply 3807/16/2010

[quote]This "perfect" movie has one of the most racist depictions of an Asian person in movie history%0D %0D Dong is a likable and believable character and no more exagerrated than anyone else in the movie. Dorks come in all colors. Asians visitors to America do mangle our language and their ways and manners appear funny to us just our behavior makes them laugh at us when we go over there.

by Anonymousreply 3907/16/2010

I've never been so happy in my whole life!

by Anonymousreply 4007/16/2010

With Hughes it's never black and white. He certainly had talent, and certainly made a few decent movies between '84-90, with IMHO, Ferris Bueller & Planes, Trains.,. being his best work.

Unfortunately there was a misogynistic, but more troubling, a hateful misanthropic nature to almost all his films - as if he despised the audience AND his characters. I personally never saw the humor in making fun of Joan Cusack's physical issues in Sixteen Candles or that most of the characters in the film are truly quite mean and nasty. Quite the opposite of the gem from that time "Heaven Help Us". Equally funny and biting, but with a sweetness towards all its characters. Well, except for the abusive monk.

Still, Hughes certainly had a talent with jokes and comedic situations, and one can't but admire his prolific output.

If only he wasn't such a nasty fuck in his films.

by Anonymousreply 4107/16/2010

r33, the name of the song you're referring to is "Ring Me Up" by The Divinyls. I liked that song too. You're right, it's not on the soundtrack for some reason. I found it on limewire, by the way.

by Anonymousreply 4207/16/2010

"Dong is a likable and believable character and no more exagerrated than anyone else in the movie,"%0D %0D You must be kidding! "Likeable?" He was an annoying asshole! And "no more exaggerated?" Every time he came onscreen there was a resounding "GOOONNGGG" and he spoke in Pigeon English: "no more yankie my wankie." He was a racial stereotype.

by Anonymousreply 4307/16/2010

R35 = truthjoy. So that explains the homophobia. I can't believe gay people would "love" a movie that repeatedly uses "fag" as put-down, or maybe it's mostly the straight women here. I hope it is.

by Anonymousreply 4407/16/2010

He was likable and funny as hell.

by Anonymousreply 4507/16/2010

One of my favorite movies ever...probably because I was just around 16 when it came out. I stumbled across it last night when getting ready for bed, had to stay up for the whole movie. I loved the Thompson Twins song at the end. Ah, the Eighties.

by Anonymousreply 4607/16/2010


You're a love.

Thank you!

by Anonymousreply 4707/16/2010

I'm still desperately seeking Annie Golden's "Hang Up The Phone" from the movie soundtrack (and apparently nowhere else.) Coulda been a Cyndi Lauper hit.

by Anonymousreply 4807/16/2010

You're welcome, r47. I help out whenever I can. :) It took quite a bit of searching to find it, but it was worth it. It really is a great song.

by Anonymousreply 4907/17/2010

We may frown on it now but the role of the Donger opened many doors for Asian actors.

by Anonymousreply 5007/17/2010

Boy, 1984 sure had a lot of crappy movies. 'Splash', 'Ghostbusters', 'Footloose', 'Revenge of the Nerds', 'Terminator', 'Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom'...YIKES!

by Anonymousreply 5107/17/2010

If you liked 'Ring Me Up' by the Divinyls came off their CD called Desperate. Not a bad song in the bunch.

by Anonymousreply 5207/17/2010

[quote]Michael Schoeffling

Just the name brings back memories of long teenage jerk-off sessions fantasizing about hooking up with him.

As for his career, when it came to an end, he just retired from the scene. So we never got to see him get older (he'll be 50 this year).

He lives in Newfoundland, Pennsylvania with a wife (his kids must be in their late teens if not early 20s). He is a woodworker/furniture maker.

He does not grant interviews and he has not been photographed since he retired from acting.

He's the Garbo of 80s teen icons.

by Anonymousreply 5307/17/2010

Here's "Ring Me Up" by the Divinyls, not as used in the movie Sixteen Candles, but here it is used as musical accompaniment to DL fave Tom Welling's teen TV show.

Great song.

Thanks R42

by Anonymousreply 5407/17/2010

And here is another great Divinyls song, this one a remake of a Young Rascals classic from the '60s.

by Anonymousreply 5507/17/2010

John Hughes movies only ever showed black people as threatening inner city thugs. Weird Science, Vacation, Adventures in Babysitting, Ferris Bueller. Otherwise it was all white, all the time.

by Anonymousreply 5607/17/2010

Thanks R54. I remember that song!

I would kill to be under Michael Schoeffling.

by Anonymousreply 5707/17/2010

What was up with Rubenstein's character creaking as she walked out of the church after the wedding?

by Anonymousreply 5807/17/2010

See what you can learn on the internets?

Michael Schoeffling's daughter Scarlett was in her high school prom court two years ago.

by Anonymousreply 5907/17/2010

I think she had a bottle of booze in her purse as she says, "Oh, I need a drink."

by Anonymousreply 6007/17/2010

... and Michael's son Zane is bassist in a band, and nicknamed "Stretch"

by Anonymousreply 6107/17/2010

Perfect for 16 year old girls.

by Anonymousreply 6207/17/2010

[quote]Otherwise it was all white, all the time.%0D %0D Yes, and Spike Lee is always making movies about black people. Go figure.

by Anonymousreply 6307/17/2010

[quote]John Hughes movies only ever showed black people as threatening inner city thugs.

That's all DLers believe anyway. So, it works out well.

by Anonymousreply 6407/17/2010

Now we know why you never get invited to parties, R51.

by Anonymousreply 6507/17/2010

I loved this article when it came out.

by Anonymousreply 6607/17/2010

The tympani beat they used when they showed whats her face in the shower was priceless.

by Anonymousreply 6707/17/2010

^^ In the movie or in the video above?

by Anonymousreply 6807/17/2010

The movie. It was the scene where Ringwald and her friend were watching the pretty girl shower and they were talking about her boobs.

by Anonymousreply 6907/17/2010

[quote]John Hughes movies only ever showed black people as threatening inner city thugs.

SO NOT TRUE!!! They also DANCED in unison while Twist and Shout plays in downtown Chicago!

by Anonymousreply 7007/17/2010

[quote]Yes, and Spike Lee is always making movies about black people.

Spike Lee [italic]has[/italic] made movies about white people, as well as movies in which black people interact with white people in a realistic (for a movie) fashion.

by Anonymousreply 7107/17/2010

No mention of the film being one of the earlier credits of both John and Joan Cusack?

by Anonymousreply 7207/17/2010

R72, they've both been mentioned earlier in the thread.

by Anonymousreply 7307/18/2010

I remember being vaguely uneasy with the Jake Ryan character in a he's-too-good-to-be-true kind of way.

I also think there's a subtle message in the movie that Jake dumps Carolyn and is attracted to Samantha because Samantha is virginal and Carolyn is not. It's very creepy.

That said, I loved the movie as a 13 year old kid from a rural area who was oblivious to most of the problems with the movie.

by Anonymousreply 7407/18/2010

I think the reason that Schoeffling never caught on was that he looked far too similar to Matt Dillon. %0D %0D Had it come out 6 months later, "Candles" would have been rated PG-13. The spring and summer of 1984, the last months of the edgy PG movie.

by Anonymousreply 7507/18/2010

"He was likable and funny as hell."%0D %0D I assume you're refering to "the Donger" or "the Dongster" or whatever. Yeah, he's likeable and funny as hell...if you find racial stereotypes appealing. %0D %0D I remember that Washington Post article at at R66. I loved it too; it really ripped to shreds the "Jake Ryan" character and "Sixteen Candles" as a whole, really. %0D %0D Jake Ryan made many a female wish for a real Jake Ryan in their lives. But that will never happen because no one like Jake Ryan exists. As the article says "popular high school seniors don't dump their cheerleader girlfriends with great bods so they can ask out a sophomore girl nobody notices. Jake did not actually do this, because he is not real."%0D %0D A Chinese woman named Lisa Ling comments on the absurdity of Jake Ryan: "If you're going to totally mislead your audience into believing such a farce to be true," Ling writes, "how about having the hot chick fall for Long Duk Dong?" (Long Duk Dong, for the uninitiated, would be that unfortunate Asian stereotype in "Sixteen Candles" played by Asian stereotype specialist Gedde Watanabe. He would be a tangent all his own, as would Anthony Michael Hall's triumphant portrayal of "the Geek," aka Farmer Ted, the anti-Jake. Now focus, ladies, please.) %0D %0D %0D %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 7607/18/2010

[quote]Jake Ryan made many a female wish for a real Jake Ryan in their lives. But that will never happen because no one like Jake Ryan exists. As the article says "popular high school seniors don't dump their cheerleader girlfriends with great bods so they can ask out a sophomore girl nobody notices. Jake did not actually do this, because he is not real."[/quote]

They do when the sophomore girls look like Molly Ringwald. No one exactly like Samantha exists either.

by Anonymousreply 7707/18/2010

I thought John Cusack was adorable in this. %0D %0D "I was just and white would just capture the moment.. so beautifully.."%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 7807/18/2010

[quote]I think the reason that Schoeffling never caught on was that he looked far too similar to Matt Dillon.

Plus he played gay.

That was a no-no.

by Anonymousreply 7907/18/2010

You're an idiot, R79.

by Anonymousreply 8007/18/2010

My favorite Hughes film is "Some Kind of Wonderful". Totally underrated.

I always think of "Just One of the Guys" as a Hughes film too but it isn't. It certainly follows his distinct style though.

by Anonymousreply 8107/18/2010

R76, and now you've got "Twilight" repeating the "Jake" pattern.

I really need to write something and get rich off of these pathetic women.

by Anonymousreply 8207/18/2010

[quote]Yeah, he's likeable and funny as hell...if you find racial stereotypes appealing%0D %0D I worked for years with an elderly Chinese man who was a walking, talking stereotype of a buck-toothed, pidgin-English speaking immigrant. Dramatic depictions of such characters may displease you but they are based on reality. %0D %0D We don't think twice about making fun of fat people or boneheaded, straight white jocks or any number of stereotypes. But when it comes to Long Duk Dong all of a sudden we're supposedly hideously hateful for daring to notice that the behavior of a character who resembles people we encounter in real life is funny.

by Anonymousreply 8307/18/2010

"I worked for years with an elderly Chinese man who was a walking, talking stereotype of a buck-toothed, pidgin-English speaking immigrant"

Yeah, and no doubt you made his life so much more pleasant.

by Anonymousreply 8407/19/2010

I suppose people like R84 serve a purpose in life, but I'll be damned if I know what it is.


by Anonymousreply 8507/19/2010

You people as usual are being far too PC and sensitive, it's FUNNY!! As far as making dumbing down chic, it is nothing compared to the comedies that are popular today, the scripts are much more intelligent and have priceless dialog and real character development which is also lacking today. He had the best soundtracks, unfortunately, this one omits many of the best tracks in favor of Annie Golden's awful Cyndi Lauper parody, "Hang up the Phone."

by Anonymousreply 8607/19/2010

I didn't find much of anything funny in SC, but what I REALLY didn't find funny was what happened to the blonde cheerleader.%0D %0D She gets stinking drunk and passes out. Her boyfriend tells a repulsive little creep that he could get "a piece of ass (charming, isn't he?)" anytime he wants and that his girlfriend is passed out and he could violate in several ways if he wants to. The little creep ia amazing: "what are you waiting for?" %0D The perfect Jake Ryan then hands over his drunk girlfriend to the geek; take her, she's yours, do whatever you want with her. Although it is mercifully not shown onscreen the geek and the fucked up girl do...something with each other. And the girl, who was so drunk she doesn't remember what happened, vaguely remembers that she "liked it." She LIKED getting taken advantage of while she was blind drunk?! Well, that's a John Hughes movie for you.

by Anonymousreply 8707/19/2010

"Is one of the few absolutely perfect movies. Actors, characters, story, dialog ... "


by Anonymousreply 8807/19/2010

[quote]Yeah, and no doubt you made his life so much more pleasant%0D %0D We had a fine working relationship. His manner was amusing but I did see him as a whole human being. It is possible to see the funny side of life without being a hater. %0D %0D You, on the other hand, sound like a PC puritan -- terrified that somewhere, somehow a white person is laughing at things white people aren't allowed to find humorous.

by Anonymousreply 8907/19/2010

His politics aside, John's movies are light years funnier than "The Hangover," "Knocked Up," "Hot Tub Time Machine" or any of that tired Jud Apatow shit. I don't mind that he doesn't feel the need to stick in a black character just to be P.C. He writes what he knows, just like the boring overwrought unfunny Spike Lee does.

by Anonymousreply 9007/19/2010

{quote)You, on the other hand, sound like a PC puritan -- terrified that somewhere, somehow a white person is laughing at things white people aren't allowed to find humorous.

Actually R89 I made the comment because I was amused how you were so understanding, and yet described this man in stereotypical terms. It would NOT be cool to describe one of my black friends as "a shuck, jive talking brother from the hood".

I guess I subscribe to the "it's cool for Jews & blacks to make jokes about their own ethnicity" school, not so cool when the comment comes from someone not part of the group.

Back to point - IMHO it's not so much that Long Duck Dong is racist, as it is just another example of Hughes' misanthropic nastiness - an equal opportunity hater.

by Anonymousreply 9107/19/2010

So many good teen/young adult movies came out of the 80s; Sixteen Candles, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Risky Business, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, The Sure Thing, Say Anything, among others.

I once read that Michael Schoeffling was the most requested Whatever Happened To... actor/actress. I admire that he left Hollywood instead of becoming a Corey Feldman type loser. Not to say that I am not curious as to what he looks like today.

by Anonymousreply 9207/19/2010

[quote]You're an idiot, [R79].


It was 1989.

If you were an up-and-coming actor, it was not a wise move especially if you were shown in bed with another man.

Dermot Mulroney played gay in the film but Young Guns came out around the same time. Aside from a chaste kiss with Campbell Scott, his character was basically asexual and he died early in the movie.

Anyone who thinks that playing gay was a good career move in Hollywood twenty years ago needs to have his head examined.

by Anonymousreply 9307/19/2010

For me, some movies don't need to be super-analyzed to death. The 80's for me wasn't about date rape and racial stereotypes, it was about a 14 year old kid trying to find my place in the world. I will love this movie because it reminds me of my youth. I personally think "The Flintstones" was more damaging.

by Anonymousreply 9407/19/2010

As ususal the hypocrisy (and stupidity)of people here at DL is on full display.%0D %0D Let's see...%0D %0D If Hughes made a film with a gay guy who talked with hands, used the adjective "fabulous" all the time, and was clearly the stereotype of a bitchy queen, would any criticism be "PC" on our part? In fact has anyone ever noticed in the world of Hughes gay teenagers do not exist? Please spare me the idea that it was the 80's. And enough about how much "fun" those films were when you were growing up. %0D %0D A bad director who made bad films. Btw, I have always been intrigued by the fact that Hughes never really tried to look at teenage sexuality as anything more than either leering lust or puppy love. He was basically making money off films that were updates of 60's sit coms.

by Anonymousreply 9507/19/2010

It was a comedy, people. It's not supposed to play like real life. If you're offended by it, shut it off and let others who enjoy it watch it in peace.

by Anonymousreply 9607/19/2010

I bet people beat a path away from you at parties, R95!

I sure as hell would.

by Anonymousreply 9707/19/2010

r95: I would never go to the sort of parties you attend.%0D %0D I am an adult. Now go to bed. It's way past your bedtime.

by Anonymousreply 9807/19/2010

How many people actually watched this movie and got so deep into it that they decided date rape is acceptable? Sometimes it is what it is. Really. I know the times I've seen it, I've never thought, oh, date rape is great and asians are stupid and hilarious. I saw a fun, poignant movie that made me smile. Stop trying to go so deep.

by Anonymousreply 9907/19/2010

"a gay guy who talked with hands, used the adjective "fabulous" all the time, and was clearly the stereotype of a bitchy queen"

Lame sitcoms like "Two and a Half Men" do this even in 2010.

by Anonymousreply 10007/19/2010

[quote]I am an adult.

And you sign your posts as "Ranger"


by Anonymousreply 10107/19/2010

Michael Schoeffling is *50*???

Fucking hell.

by Anonymousreply 10207/20/2010

Why would someone even get so freaked out about a movie from 20 years ago? I don't analyze Jimmy Stewart's politics to decide if I still love his movies. A movie coming out tomorrow is a different story but I'm not going back in time for this.

by Anonymousreply 10307/22/2010

Found this on cable tonight ... all I'll add to the discussion is that Michael Schoeffling had great hair in this.

by Anonymousreply 10412/06/2012

I miss John Hughes.

by Anonymousreply 10512/06/2012

I'd present my hole to Jake Ryan. And that's saying something, because I've never bottomed.

by Anonymousreply 10612/06/2012

"We may frown on it now but the role of the Donger opened many doors for Asian actors"

And just how exactly did it do that? Did directors see "Sixteen Candles" and think: "wow, that Asian with the kooky name and doofus personality seems really popular! I'm gonna have to have a character like that in my next movie! It'll really bring kids and teenagers in to see it! They LOVE the Donger!"

by Anonymousreply 10712/07/2012

I love when Joan Cusak is in the scoliosis brace and tries to drink from the water fountain

by Anonymousreply 10812/07/2012

oh christ all you precious, overly sensitive PC queens calm down

it wasn't racist - it was humor - you don't walk away thinking all Asians are like Long Duck Dong - he was depicted as an exchange student getting drunk

and back in the 80's people did do drugs and drink and drive -

calm the fuck down

by Anonymousreply 10912/07/2012

R109 is right. Calm down. The movie was funny as shit.

by Anonymousreply 11012/07/2012

I liked it.

by Anonymousreply 11112/07/2012

One of the funniest lines in any movie...

by Anonymousreply 11212/07/2012

R103, the scary thing is it's more like 30 years ago at this point.

by Anonymousreply 11312/07/2012

"I wouldn't go in there right now. Grandpa just came out of there and it's totally polluted!"

by Anonymousreply 11412/07/2012

There is a really strange thing Ive noticed in the "They're so perky" scene. First we see the grandfather come out of the bathroom and hear a toilet flushing. Hes holding a newspaper so the implication is he just took a crap. Then, a few seconds later, his wife comes out of the bathroom. Was she in there while he was shitting?

by Anonymousreply 11512/07/2012

I like the shot of Molly and her gorgeous legs sitting in the hall at the school dance crying then the girls come out of the bathroom and she's all smiling and "hi" to them through her tears. That sums up my high school career.

by Anonymousreply 11612/07/2012

Jesus, R113.

Cliche to say, but: Where'd the time go?

by Anonymousreply 11712/07/2012

R115, those shots are a little confusing because there are at least three different doors, but the wife comes out of a bedroom, not the bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 11812/07/2012

"it wasn't racist - it was humor"

Maybe in your opinion. But I think most people would agree that Long Duck Dong was one of the most racist depictions of an Asian in movie history, even if they did find the character humorous.

by Anonymousreply 11912/07/2012

R118 heres the clip and you're right, it is confusing, but not for reasons you listed. When the grandfather comes out of the room, its clearly a bathroom (towels hanging on a rack can be seen) When the grandmother comes out of the same door, its a totally different room. The towel rack and window are gone. The art on the wall has changed and there is a brief glimpse of a bed.

by Anonymousreply 12012/07/2012

R120, it's not the same door. The bathroom door is set back from the hallway by a few feet and has a wall sconce next to it. The bedroom door is flush with the wall and there's no sconce.

by Anonymousreply 12112/07/2012

I heard they're making a porn version called Sixteen Candles...Up My Ass, starring Dawson

by Anonymousreply 12212/07/2012

[quote] Long Duk Dong: "No more yankie my wankie. The Donger need food."

I saw this scene on regular cable about a year ago, and they dubbed over this line, so that he said "No more yanky Ron Cranky."

by Anonymousreply 12312/07/2012

R121 There's another difference. The set totally changes from the shot showing the grandfather coming out of the room. Watch it again. Sam never moves, she stands near the door that we know leads up to her room. She never moves from that spot. But when the camera cuts away from her close-up back to the medium shot showing her and the grandfather, everything behind them is different. The sconce is gone, the door is now now flush with the wall and the art that was hanging next to the door on the left is also gone (in fact, it looks like it was moved into the bedroom we see the grandmother walk out of)

Its really just a continuity problem. Despite having someone on the set to make sure these things never happen, they do nonetheless.

by Anonymousreply 12412/07/2012

"Happy birthday, happy birthday" - the Altered Images song that plays in one of the early classroom scenes isn't on the soundtrack either. Sounds a bit like Lene Lovich, new wave.

by Anonymousreply 12512/07/2012

Jake: Yes, hello sir, um... Howard: Are you the little bugger that's been calling up here all night and then hanging up? Jake: Would it be possible for you to tell me if there is a Samantha Baker there and if so, sir, may I converse with her briefly? Howard: Yes it is, and NO you may not. Jake: Might I leave a message, sir? Howard: [to Grandma Baker] He wants to leave a message for Sam.

Then Billie Bird grabs the phone "Let me talk to him!" And proceeds to tell him off, calling him a houlighan. Funny scene!

by Anonymousreply 12612/07/2012

Ohhh R26 You forgot the best part of that scene.

"Sam is lucky to have us. Even if she doesnt appreciate us."

The grandparents have all the best lines:

"Voila! Breakfast is served!"

"Hate that rock and roll garbage"

"No, he's not retarded"

by Anonymousreply 12712/07/2012

I'm not sure what kind of career Shoeffling would've had but he could have easily went from being a teen stud to a leading man if he wanted to. He was good in Longtime Companion, he was no worse an actor than any of his contemporaries.

by Anonymousreply 12812/07/2012

"The Donger and Me"

by Anonymousreply 12912/07/2012

he's good in "Mermaids."

by Anonymousreply 13012/07/2012

R129, I guess that would make more sense to me if I ever saw Bootie Call.

by Anonymousreply 13112/08/2012

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by Anonymousreply 13212/08/2012


by Anonymousreply 13312/08/2012

Ever notice when they are all going to the church for the wedding, the grandmother doesn't get IN the car. She crouches down beside the back door?

by Anonymousreply 13412/08/2012

I have noticed that before, R134. I also can't hear "Young Americans" without thinking of that scene.

by Anonymousreply 13512/09/2012

If Sixteen Candles were made today and had Long Duk Dong in it, there would be protests outside theaters. How the times have changed...

by Anonymousreply 13612/09/2012

This was a good movie.

by Anonymousreply 13712/09/2012

John Hughes wanted Lucy for the part of Long Duk Dong, but Mickey Rooney wouldn't give her "how to act like a stereotypical Asian" lessons because Gary Morton stiffed him on a golf bet.

by Anonymousreply 13812/09/2012

Jami Gertz in a small roll was hilarious in the drunken haircutting scene.

by Anonymousreply 13912/09/2012

I meant "role", LOL.

by Anonymousreply 14012/09/2012

The song playing at the very beginning of the dance is a bit of a mystery. It's called "Filene". The producers wanted "Our House" by Madness, but couldn't secure it, so they just created a similar sounding song.

by Anonymousreply 14112/10/2012
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