Nothing to be proud of Manhattan: I was disappointed in the behavior of many of the paradegoers at Sunday's gay pride parade. There was a lot of very rude, loud, obnoxious, drunken and disrespectful behavior at the parade, in the surrounding streets and parks and even on the subways. No matter what your sexual orientation, you should understand that you are in public and not in your living room, and conduct yourself accordingly. Show a bit more pride - and some self-respect and respect for others. Agatha Jadwiszczok (Published as a letter to the editor in Today's edition of the NY Daily News)
NYC gay pride parade-There was a lot of very rude, loud, obnoxious, drunken and disrespectful behavior
|by Anonymous||reply 93||07/01/2013|
Agatha has clearly never been to the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Next to that, the Gay Pride Parade is like a ladies' high tea.
Agatha's just another Catholic homophobe.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/29/2010|
As has been proven repeatedly here on DL... the fraus really get pissed off at loud proud and out gays.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/29/2010|
OP, it wasn't that they were gay that made them rude, loud, obnoxious, drunken, and disrespectful... it was because they were New Yorkers.We cherish them here.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/30/2010|
In that kind of oppressive heat humidity, anyone can be excused for being rude, loud, obnoxious, drunken or disrespectful.
Or in my case, for staying home.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/30/2010|
you're sounding old, pussycat.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/30/2010|
I live in the West Village and every year, people drive in, park their cars, set up lawn chairs on the sidewalk, pull out a hibachi and blast their car stereo. I could understand if this was along the parade route during the parade, but these people stay until dark. Why would anyone want to sit on a concrete sidewalk, when there is a nice grassy area over by the Hudson River or the beautiful Central Park to go to?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/30/2010|
Gay Pride Day is the only day in New York where gays are allowed to act like Puerto Ricans.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/30/2010|
"Gay Pride Day is the only day in New York where gays are allowed to act like Puerto Ricans."%0D %0D Then you get to be called on it like Puerto Ricans too.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/30/2010|
[quote]you're sounding old, pussycat.%0D %0D Pot meet kettle
|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/30/2010|
That's really odd, R6.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||06/30/2010|
"No matter what your sexual orientation, you should understand that you are in public and not in your living room, and conduct yourself accordingly. Show a bit more pride - and some self-respect and respect for others."%0D %0D In other words, don't show ANY sign of affection between you and your same-sex partner.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/30/2010|
How were they disrespectful? Did they criticize her outfit?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/30/2010|
Pride parades are so 1990. Yawn.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/30/2010|
Pride Parades are thick with breeders now. It's barely our celebration now and they think they can dictate the rules of our celebration, so as not to offend little Ashley and Baxter.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/30/2010|
I'm with R14 on this: They ARE thick with breeders. I mean, just by the fact that the events are now called "parades" when they used to be called "marches." %0D %0D The day had become more of a spectacle than anything else - which is fine providing that's all you want.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/30/2010|
Thousands of gays in one place with rude, loud, obnoxious, drunken and disrespectful behavior? That sounds like my own house...and there are only two of us.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/30/2010|
the idea of calling it "PRIDE" is fatuous. everyone goes for the revelry - not something uplifting.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||06/30/2010|
I agree with r15. It is now a parade, a spectacle on the level of Mardi Gras.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/30/2010|
It's like celebrating the feast of St. Patrick by getting drunk, being obnoxious, and claiming it was all because of pride in a heritage.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/30/2010|
Has it really become that bad? I moved away from NYC in 2005, and it didn't seem rowdy then.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/30/2010|
New York isn't the same as it was in 2005. Now, even in a parade for gays, you have to watch your language and behavior, lest you offend little Jaden or Tiffani whom their parents have brought to the parade.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/30/2010|
She clearly doesn't live here since nothing can possibly compare to the disgusting display that occurs on St. Patrick's Day.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/30/2010|
Atlanta moved Pride to the last weekend in October last year. I live on the parade route, and I miss the scantily clad youths.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/30/2010|
What do the Puerto Rican Day Parade, the St. Patrick's Day Parade, the West Indian Parade, etc., etc., have to do with the validity of this complaint? People act like assholes at parades--all parades. If no one is supposed to complain, why do we have the annual disgrace that is the P.R. Parade thread here every year? Stop acting like being gay makes you above critique. It doesn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/30/2010|
what does getting shitfaced have to do with gay pride?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/30/2010|
I don't think it was particularly worse or better then every other year to tell you the truth.
I do think the way the police set up the barricades to control traffic at the end of the route is extremely obnoxious and designed to say "go home faggots."
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/30/2010|
Jesus Christ, she should live in my neighborhood -- Avenue A just below 14th -- and deal with the NIGHTLY parade of STRAIGHT COLLEGE ASSHOLES. Straight girls puking on the curb, drunk shouting straight guys. But it's more fun to bitch about gays, I'm sure, when you're straight.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||06/30/2010|
Aggie sounds like a constipated old nag who sucks lemons. Fuck her.
That said, I agree that the "parades" are grotesque. I dread the St Paddy's day every year because I work in mid-town and have to hack my way through the blitzed big-haired NJ twats shrieking in the streets.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||06/30/2010|
I took the train into the city for other reasons on Sunday and without question, the rudest people on the subway were the obese, latina lesbians. They seemed to take pride in acting like tough "macho" men when they were really fat sloppy-looking women.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/30/2010|
When you get down to the West Village portion of the parade you notice that the vast majority of revelers are ghetto as all hell. You would think that that would be where the power gays congregate but no. It's all the lowest dregs of society.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||06/30/2010|
Central Park is a WAR ZONE of discarded dirty diapers and chicken bones in the aftermath of the Puerto Rican Day Parade....
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/30/2010|
A majority of people who participate in the NYC Pride parade are minorities and people on this site for the most part have nothing nice to say about minorities.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/30/2010|
What a stupid comment R32. A significant portion of the (non-tourist) parade-goer WERE rude and at best, common. Adn there's no debating that fact.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/30/2010|
[quote] When you get down to the West Village portion of the parade you notice that the vast majority of revelers are ghetto as all hell.
A lot of young minorities congregate and hang out in the West Village all year long. You see them on Christopher Street and the pier. They are all LGBT and don't have any where to really go. They can't go to bars and their often not welcome in the neighborhoods/families they grew up in. Many are homeless.
And the gay community ignores them because they are not white and they are poor and it's a real fucking shame.
You people need to wake up and realize that the people who fought at Stonewall would have been considered "ghetto" too.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/30/2010|
R32 = Alberta Einstein.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/30/2010|
Over the years, as they have become more main stream, the NYC Gay Pride Parade has become more roudy and younger as well- with lots of money making opportunities thrown in. In the earlier days they were more political- and unique because they were.%0D %0D Now they are not that different from PR Day and St Patrick's Day parades. Lots of loud drunk youngsters (sorry- older guys don't get much of a thrill out of just getting drunk during the day- having done it.)%0D %0D In the Village trashy vendors are everywhere- it's not a pretty scene anymore. It is still a spectacle, but not one that interests me anymore. That's OK because old farts like me can express our pride other ways. %0D %0D Young gays and lesbians have become more or less like young NYers in general- not pleasant in crowds etc. Just goes to show you that people are not all that different when it comes down to it. Parallels the dumbing down of DL over the last 5 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/30/2010|
"They are all LGBT and don't have any where to really go. They can't go to bars and their often not welcome in the neighborhoods/families they grew up in."%0D %0D Bullshit. They can go into any bar they want to in NYC; they CHOOSE to be outsiders.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/30/2010|
[quote]Bullshit. They can go into any bar they want to in NYC; they CHOOSE to be outsiders.
I'm not R34, but I'm assuming he's talking about the fact that the young minorities who congregate on Christopher Street are often teens, and thus too young to go to the bars.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/30/2010|
R38. Or they can't afford to buy $12 drinks.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/30/2010|
R34 here. Yes, I am talking about LGBT youth who are in fact too young to enter gay bars.
I know it may be shocking to R37, but young people, are coming out at very early ages. And they, unlike, you don't solely want to sit Vlada and compare iPads and toupees.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/30/2010|
What a bizarre response r40, where did you hang out at that age? %0D %0D There are plenty of McDonalds for them to congregate in Manhattan.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/30/2010|
R32 and R34 have it right.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/30/2010|
Aggie's probably one of those super-Catholic Poles who went into a terrible depression when John Paul II's miracle fizzled, delaying his sainthood.%0D
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/30/2010|
Hey! We had shootings at our parade in SF.. bet you didn't have any. What is a parade without a shooting or two?
We are just so happy to be out and about now, we can hardly contain ourselves!
We aint your grandma's 4th of July parade my dear, get used to the mayhem or get outa the way and off the route.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/30/2010|
I'm a gay man, and I have to agree with Agatha. There was very little "pride" on display in that parade.
What does gay pride have to do with a bunch of drug-addled or drunk gym bunnies in Speedos gyrating on a float to tuneless techno music. Nothing.
I've avoided the so-called gay pride parade in New York for the past 10 years. It's not very dignified.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/30/2010|
We as a society demand great, over the top, downright offensive gestures since we no longer notice anything less.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/30/2010|
Hey, maybe it was gay Puerto Ricans.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/30/2010|
In total agreement with r24, r32 and r 34, right on the money.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/30/2010|
I thought every day was Puerto Rican Day in NYC.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/30/2010|
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/30/2010|
[quote]You people need to wake up and realize that the people who fought at Stonewall would have been considered "ghetto" too.%0D %0D Yeah, they "would have been considered ghetto" if they acted like you and your friends. %0D %0D But they didn't, did they? And they weren't, aren't and never will be "ghetto".%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/30/2010|
I'm sure Agatha has complaints about every parade not just the gays. And I'm sure she takes the time to put those complaints in writing to the local paper. %0D %0D Really. %0D %0D I am. %0D %0D So fucking sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/30/2010|
What made this day different from any other day in the city?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/30/2010|
So unless you complain about every parade, regardless of your individual experience, you are a "bigot" r52? That response just sounds so knee-jerk and dishonest.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/30/2010|
Having attended the parade this year after a five year absence, I will say this: this parade was a big yawnfest. %0D %0D I was up around 30th and 5th avenue and it was packed. The crowd was ok this far uptown, but the comment about obese lesbians was spot-on. %0D %0D I had a huge-ass lesbian park herself right in my face after I set up chairs an hour-and-a- half before the parade even started. She remained there until the very freakin end. %0D %0D I think I have attended my last NYC pride event. %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/30/2010|
[quote]So unless you complain about every parade, regardless of your individual experience, you are a "bigot" [R52]? That response just sounds so knee-jerk and dishonest.%0D %0D Ugh DL is so overrun with you gay hating fraus it is just sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/30/2010|
And let's not forget the Irish idiots proclaiming that gays couldn't march in their parade because it was a religious holiday. Does "religious holiday" mean it's an excuse for Irish folk to drink and puke to show the pride they have in being Irish?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/30/2010|
Walking through the West Village during Gay Pride is like a ancient Roman legionnaire going to battle with the Great Horde of Germania. Absolute barbarism on an epic scale. You have to literally stand there for 15 minutes to get down three blocks. Wall to wall B&T trash with poor hygiene in dripping wet 100 degree weather.
I would take a gander and say that the actual residents of the West Village must absolutely loathe this day. The aftermath is pretty disgusting. Empty soda bottles and little plastic baggies strewn all over the usually well manicured streets of that tony neighborhood.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/30/2010|
[quote]What does gay pride have to do with a bunch of drug-addled or drunk gym bunnies in Speedos gyrating on a float to tuneless techno music. Nothing. I've avoided the so-called gay pride parade in New York for the past 10 years. It's not very dignified.
Dignified? You want a fucking parade to be dignified??
You sound really, really old, gramps.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/30/2010|
R58, While the pride parade has never been my thing, I would imagine that as tedious as the noise and mess must be, I've always thought that the West Vllage was the neighborhood for rich people who consider having the Pride Parade going on outside their apartments and townhouses to be proof of their own vibrant bohemianism.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/30/2010|
Lordy. Enough already! Do all of your criticizing know what Pride is about?
It's about being proud of WHO YOU ARE.
Maybe you don't aspire to be a fat ethnic Lesbian, or a "bridge & tunneler," or even a hottie in a speedo on a float, but that's who they are and they are proud. Pride is a time we celebrate who we are and it's a pretty incredible and moving thing.
Stop trying to proclaim that people not like you or who deviate from your vision of what being LGBT should look like are bad. Pride is not only about you and your friends. It's about a whole diverse group of people. There are many colors on the Pride flag people.
Diversity is not be a bad thing. Maybe you would be better off in the Taliban or the Nazis or the Westboro Baptist Church, where conformity is celebrated.
You people are no worse then the many people over the years who don't think we should be gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||06/30/2010|
Sorry, but I just don't see why someone would be proud to be drugged out and dancing on a float. Call me crazy.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||07/01/2010|
You kids get off mah lawn!
|by Anonymous||reply 63||07/01/2010|
Naturally they were rude and obnoxious. Why should the gays be any different than other Americans?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||07/01/2010|
People were rude and obnoxious and drunk at a parade! Ghastly!%0D %0D They weren't showing their best selves by doing this? Shocking!%0D %0D Thank God the Irish know how to run a sober, religious celebration that shows them off at their best!%0D %0D Thank God the Mexicans know how to run a great celebration of the shithole they can't stand to live in yet constantly celebrate. (That is if they have enough money after sending some back to their relatives too poor to get out.)
|by Anonymous||reply 65||07/02/2010|
And all that awful, over-amplified music coming from those floats.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||07/01/2013|
When was it decided that gay men like shitty music like Rhianna and Gaga and all that wretched techno?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||07/01/2013|
Was it the Santorum Fountain float, Agatha?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||07/01/2013|
I think the three major NYC parades (Gays, Irish, Latino) are all pretty low. As a matter of fact, they've become interchangeable. Loud, obnoxious, trashy people who don't give a fuck about anyone around them.
The difference with the Gay parade is too many people who should keep their clothes on walk around 3/4 naked and most of them shouldn't.
I don't want to see anyone is assless chaps or a g string walking around on a Sunday afternoon.
I have to see that yesterday, I was embarrassed to identify myself as gay.
Whatever happened to class, indeed.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||07/01/2013|
R69, I don't want to see anybody who calls them assless chaps at our parade you old fart.
If chaps had an ass in them they'd be called pants.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||07/01/2013|
Hooligans! Oafs! Jackanapes!
|by Anonymous||reply 71||07/01/2013|
I was there and it was fine, no rudeness on the street at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||07/01/2013|
Sometime during the '70s, R67.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||07/01/2013|
I saw a fat, older lesbian in a wheelchair singing along to some horrible song being blared from the float in front of her.
Just watching the parade for an hour and listening to all that over-amplified shitty music made my ears hurt.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||07/01/2013|
How would one know what was published in the New York Daily News?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||07/01/2013|
Real gay New Yorkers leave town on Pride Day.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||07/01/2013|
[quote]Hey! We had shootings at our parade in SF.. bet you didn't have any. What is a parade without a shooting or two?
None of the shootings at SF Pride or Castro Halloween were done by LGBT people. We all know who the culprits were. The same types who ruin every event they attend.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||07/01/2013|
The protracted death of New York is delicious.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||07/01/2013|
I'm gay and I detest these embarrassing spectacles. Just another excuse to get drunk, drugged up, and get laid. Wonder how many guys picked up an STD last night?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||07/01/2013|
[post by racist shit-stain #3 removed.]
|by Anonymous||reply 80||07/01/2013|
how many DO?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||07/01/2013|
[post by racist shit-stain #3 removed.]
|by Anonymous||reply 82||07/01/2013|
We should start making the parades more about SEX and drive some of these prudes away.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||07/01/2013|
I am proud to say that none of my friends would go near the parade. It's for the lower element of the gay papulation.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||07/01/2013|
How many, r82? Most of them? Half of them? Some of them?
Do go on.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||07/01/2013|
She's probably a Polish illegal.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||07/01/2013|
R82 - homophobic wingnut with shitty impulse control. to wit;
[quote]LMAO!!!! yeah gays are so empathetic and so logical. Any Bug chasing parties this week? Gay men treat each other like shit!!!
Begone, pathetic twat.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||07/01/2013|
Drunken? That dulls the effect of the drugs.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||07/01/2013|
[post by racist shit-stain #3 removed.]
|by Anonymous||reply 89||07/01/2013|
Just fuck off and die, troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||07/01/2013|
What idiot bumped a thread from 3 years ago?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||07/01/2013|
Was Agatha the witch who married Patrick Wilson?I get them all confused.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||07/01/2013|
Damn, but there are lot of Polly Prisses posting here. As an official senior, I march every year and don't see any major difference over the years - it's fun, happy, and yes, sometimes crude (so what?)
|by Anonymous||reply 93||07/01/2013|