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Why won''t Libertarians answer the question?

What is an example of a country that runs on Libertarian principles?

By this point in history we have examples of just about every form of government man has come up with. Hasn't there been a Libertarian government ever?

It seems like you're just supposed to take it on faith that Libertarianism would work, which makes it seem more like a religion than a political philosophy.

by Anonymousreply 11110/14/2015

Didn't someone already answer this with "Somalia"?

by Anonymousreply 105/21/2010

Non-libertarians always answer with Somalia, but Libertarians deny that as an answer. But I've yet hear an actual Libertarian answer.

by Anonymousreply 205/21/2010

Somalia or any country with no real infrastructure where everyone fends for themselves is pretty much the basic definition. Libertarians always neglect the fact that a new Libertarian state would not be starting from zero, there would already be the massive infrastructure set up by the U.S. government. Somalia is a more realistic, starting from zero scenario.

by Anonymousreply 305/21/2010

Somalia was running okay (considering the relative hell they had to start with) They still have some of the best cell phone infrastructure in Africa. It was going well until all the other countries started fucking with it. By sending "aid" (of guns) and installing warlords and whipping up old tribal rivalries. It's filled with uranium and probably has a shitload of oil and natural gas that hasn't been officially discovered yet. If there isn't any government to bribe you have to create one. But yes, it was doing well until everyone else and their oil companies screwed it up.

by Anonymousreply 405/21/2010

R4 makes it sound as though a Libertarian society is impossible as long as non-Libertarian governments exist elsewhere in the world.

If all it takes is for another government to send aid to destroy the Libertarian country, it is too weak to be stable and results in anarchy.

Bad system.

by Anonymousreply 505/21/2010

[quote]It was going well until all the other countries started fucking with it.

that is an out and out lie, you know that, R4!

by Anonymousreply 605/21/2010

Again, you have to look at where it started. Do you think the United States would allow a bunch of foreign meddlers to run our government? Nah, that job is left to the oil companies, but we fight those wars elsewhere. I'm sure if a bunch of Chinese or something made it over our oceans and invaded, we'd be okay. And things in Somalia are improving again. They're life expectancy is up 5 years and they have one of the highest percentages of people online

by Anonymousreply 705/21/2010

My marriage was going well until all those other skanks started fucking me!

by Anonymousreply 805/21/2010

Wouldn't the Libertarians in Somalia cherish the "aid" = guns. How can that be a problem it keeps people safer.

Libertarians in the US value guns more than social services nonsense like education, EPA: clean water act etc, So "aid" of that productive kind would be shunned by US libertarians.

by Anonymousreply 905/21/2010

The government is set up to change (every so slowly and inefficiently) to divorce yourself from civil society makes you a sociopath, literally.

by Anonymousreply 1105/21/2010

R10, we already know Libertarians don't like the US federal government. But it takes something more than not liking the government to give Libertarianism credibility. That's why the request for real world examples - something positive.

So Somolia is the only real world example, then?

by Anonymousreply 1205/21/2010

"Well, I don't feel like believing our government is ever going to give a shit about any of us. It's not necessary and it certainly isn't benevolent"

You certainly don't have to believe it, its your right. And for those of us who stick with this Republic and the work in progress it is, fully realizing the depths of its flaws.

Some choose to refrain from taking the leap of faith that is libertarianism. Considering the real world application given is Somalia. Currently its just as much theory as religion.

by Anonymousreply 1405/21/2010

R10, it is not benevolent, but it is NECESSARY. Societies need to pool resources to take care of certain aspects of life that cannot be take care of by individuals. This fact of life is true even in tribal societies.

by Anonymousreply 1605/21/2010

So other than [bold]GOVERNMENT SUX[/bold], you've got absolutely nothing, R10. Good to know.

by Anonymousreply 1705/21/2010

[quote]I think waving flags and bombing brown people makes you a psychopath.

i think stepping back and blaming others and "the government" is sociopathic.

by Anonymousreply 2005/21/2010

R18, what is your answer then? nothing? anarchy? honestly - what then, nothing?

by Anonymousreply 2105/21/2010

R18, that's true, but how is that an argument in favor of Libertarians?

by Anonymousreply 2205/21/2010

R10, do you think that Somalia is an example of Libertarianism in practice?

I'm looking for a positive example of Libertarianism, not just negative criticism of all the alternatives to Libertarianism.

by Anonymousreply 2305/21/2010

Pooling resources is what we do. That's how food gets to our table. The farmers grow the food, the trucks bring it to the store and we buy it, we don't all have tractors and acre large gardens.

R16, as far as government, we can do it locally. Most everything people say that's great about government is local. YOU actually CAN BE the government locally. You can know that the guy running for office is a giant incompetent douchebag and doesn't need to hold office. Everyone in Wasilla knew Sarah Palin was an incompetent twat yet she still holds a certain sway over certain swaths of America.

Like Bill Clinton, I feel your pain. I used to believe everything would be different once Obama got into office. I feel that he's just Bush lite. I wish I still had faith in a strong Federal Government, it's comforting in its way.

Libertarianism is natural. It's what we do every day. The order emerges on its own. We don't need a military base in Japan, Iraq or Germany in order to go to the grocery store. Or get streetlights fixed or to make sure our roads are safe.

by Anonymousreply 2405/21/2010

[quote]Most everything people say that's great about government is local. YOU actually CAN BE the government locally.

I do and am - and I'm a liberal who believes in a strong central government. Never in my wildest dreams could I drive the forces individualistically required to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity --- unless of course you go back to Medieval city-states and then we are right back at Somalia again. Tribalism.

by Anonymousreply 2505/21/2010

There are libertarian aspects to various governments, our own included. Just as there are liberal and conservative aspects as well.

To ask if there's been a "libertarian government" is almost too broad to answer. Libertarianism is like saying liberalism or conservatism. It's a point or cluster of points on the political spectrum; it's a set of ideals, not specific ideological doctrine.

Some aspects of the US government are more libertarian than others. Some governments are more libertarian than others. I think the OP is a little confused. There are many stripes of libertarianism, ranging from the small-government minarchists to outright anarchists and even some socialists.

Obviously Somalia is no one's ideal. Whatever its government is, it's an example gone horribly awry.

There is a difference between libertarians and Libertarians, btw. The latter refers to the members of third largest political party in the United States, but libertarians are people who believe in limited government to varying degrees. Not all libertarians are Libertarians.

by Anonymousreply 2605/21/2010


by Anonymousreply 2705/21/2010

[quote]Libertarianism is natural. It's what we do every day. The order emerges on its own.

So where has it emerged on its own and proved to be a viable way of government? The Somalian example appears to be too vulnerable to interaction with other countries. Wasilla, Alaska sized local governments, without a federal government, are pipe dreams - they would not survive in the world.

Are there any countries at all where Libertarianism has "emerged on its own" and proved to be a stable way of structuring a country?

by Anonymousreply 3005/21/2010

[quote]Libertarianism is natural. It's what we do every day. The order emerges on its own.

so is chaos and entropy and war and oblivion. I wouldn't recommend those courses because of their natural sources.

by Anonymousreply 3105/21/2010

Libertarians won't answer the question because they don't like the answer. The answer is that there has never existed a country run on libertarian principles. It doesn't work.

Look at the two examples given in this thread. Even if you believe that Somalia was on the cusp of greatness (ha!), the excuse is that "outsiders" ruined the wonderful libertarian society. Weak and unstable, at best.

The other example is laughable - "the Italian Renassaince" - all towns. Where are these Italian Renassaince towns now? Why did "the Italian Renassaince" Libertarian superiority not last?

Libertarians can talk for days and days detailing the ways they don't like the US government. But ask which country in the world this form of government has worked in? CRICKETS. Or laughably stupid answers.

Libertarians are no better than Dungeons and Dragons addicts or Scientologists. They're either hobbyists in a fantasy game or downright scam artists.

Rand Paul's attempts to evade Rachel Maddow were a great example - they WILL NOT answer the question because Libertarianism is not a form of government for the real world.

by Anonymousreply 3305/21/2010

Those of us who believe in the republic recognize instances where Government has failed and also where it has succeeded historically. It is hardly an idealized Santa for us.

How will libertarianism ensure equal pay for women or reign in Monsanto when private companies are given right to do as they wish? No government or larger body to reign them in. And free market is supposed to correct itself. As Paul had discovered in the Civil Rights Act debate - the government can permit the south to choose when to desegregate, but after well over a century of time they didn't. And being the minority they didn't have enough $$$ consumer leverage to force a change. So on a local level how will equal pay for women come about unless it was in the ideology of the private business owners who shouldn't be told what they should do.

Not to mention a state by state rule of law would cause chaos. States battling over territories among each other and potential bordering states waring with other countries. Possibly creating settlements if they felt so entitled, and we've all seen citizens & leaders on the local level capable of that.

The common factor in the corruption of government and on local level are the citizens themselves. No matter what societal structure is created there is no utopia just a constant work in process.

by Anonymousreply 3505/21/2010

[quote]You're asking, "Has there ever been a government that is purely libertarian?"

No, that's not what I'm asking. I asked "What is an example of a country that runs on Libertarian principles?"

I did not ask for purity or perfection. I just wanted to know what country runs on its principles.

I have my answer - the nearest real world example is Somalia. And with your answer, the "leanings" of France, the US, Switzerland, and New Zealand. I think that's a stretch, but I won't ask for why you listed those countries. These questions always seem to just provide a platform for repetitive speeches against the US government for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 3605/21/2010

[quote]Wall Street gets it's power from the Fed, which is a banking cartel created by JP Morgan and the Rockefellers. The robber barons. Those big Wall Street banks you're talking about control the Fed. Look at the board of directors of the NY Fed. The CEO of JP Morgan is on the board and used his position at the Fed to enrich his own company with the collapse of Bear Stearns. It's a cartel. That's why Wall Street rules the world, and isn't just a normal financial district in a normal city. They get to create all the U.S. dollars they want, all the time.

Which is the perfect argument to support increased government regulation of the financial system. But it's not like anything you've argued makes any sense.

by Anonymousreply 3705/21/2010

[quote]What is an example of a country that runs on Libertarian principles?

R38, this is the question I asked. Stop trying to make it sound as though I were asking a different question. I set it apart at the top of my post to make it clear.

You're either being willfully stupid or purposely dishonest.

Do you have anything to offer other than personal attack or criticism of government?

Anything positive, like examples of where Libertarian principles have been applied and succeeded?

by Anonymousreply 3905/21/2010

Medieval Italian city-states were not rich. How could any libertarian jackanape believe such a ridiculous notion?

by Anonymousreply 4005/21/2010

Libertarians are obviously contrarian fucktards

by Anonymousreply 4105/22/2010

It takes 3 minutes in the presence of an actual libertarian to know they are all wackos.

They live in the realm of ideas, most of which bear little correspondence to the real world.

The internet, with its emphasis on the virtual, rather than the real, is their perfect medium, but they will always be cheeto-chomping, basement-dwelling losers.

by Anonymousreply 4205/22/2010

I'm guessing the New England colonies before the Declaration of Independent -- minus incidents of slavery and positive a lot more marijuana.

The libertarian would thrive in a post-apocalyptic state. Unfortunately for most libertarians alive today, we're not post-apocalyptic just yet.

by Anonymousreply 4305/22/2010

Sorry, Decl. of IndepenDENCE.

by Anonymousreply 4405/22/2010

R43, bachelors were illegal in colonial New England. Prices were closely controlled, and taxes used to support the poor.

by Anonymousreply 4505/22/2010

New Zealand invented the modern welfare state, which is anathema to libertarians.

Switzerland regulates every fucking thing from your flugelhorn to your fingernails.

by Anonymousreply 4605/22/2010

Colombia was the most libertarian country in the world about five years ago.

Today we'd have to say it is Haiti.

by Anonymousreply 4705/22/2010

I have to say that r10 is one of the dumbest posters I've read in a long.

All r10 did was to build a straw-man and knock it down thinking all the time how brilliant he/she was.

by Anonymousreply 4805/22/2010

[quote]Switzerland regulates every fucking thing from your flugelhorn to your fingernails

literally, I've lived there and you are fined for hanging your laundry out on the wrong day. NOTHING libertarian about them but that they are a confederacy.

by Anonymousreply 4905/22/2010

Libertarians and tea party/white supremacists don't have very high IQs, do they? Facts really do bother them. A lot.

by Anonymousreply 5005/22/2010

Embedded in a sea of stupid:

[quote]You're fine with the way the FCC uses its licensing to control the media and all of the shit like Operation Mockingbird.

Licensing and technical coordination of radio and TV stations is required for technical reasons, to avoid massive interference.

The FCC and Congress largely deregulated electronic media along libertarian lines in the 1980's. Among many things, they instituted auctions for broadcast licenses, rather than comparative hearings to determine the most qualified applicants. The old system actually allowed me, a person of modest means, to own broadcast properties. Could I outbid large corporations? Forget it.

The new rules brought us Clear Channel, owner of 900 stations, and similar operators like Cumulus. Local radio died. Automated, voice tracked, centrally produced corporate McRadio replaced it.

Ask small rural towns what happens when tornadoes come, or a train derailment with toxic chemicals spill. At the remotely operated robot stations, the answer is nothing. No warnings, no emergency programming.

America is owned and operated by mega-corporations, not the people. Aided and abetted by the lame-brained libertarians. To the detriment of us all.

by Anonymousreply 5105/22/2010

Oh, God, this again? Do libertarians like to drive on paved roads? Do they accept and cash their Social Security checks when they get older? Do they accept COBRA and unemployment when they get fired? Of course. Ao what they really want is a government that's all service and no rules or taxes

It's just a permanent part of the American character--every generation has had this particular substratum of stupidity to call its own: A combination of complete paranoia about institutions and equally unwarranted confidence in oneself.

by Anonymousreply 5305/22/2010


by Anonymousreply 5409/22/2013

"There was default Libertarianism for a many, many, many years and people survived."

Yes. Let's all go back to hunting and gathering like primitive men. Things were so much better then.

by Anonymousreply 5609/22/2013

The problem with Libertarians... besides their arrested adolescence, their arrogance, their self-absorbed selfishness, and the fact that they live in a 'bubble' unaware of how most people get by on a daily basis... is that they never EVER think through the consequences of their arguments, beliefs, and ideology. What might sound good in the short-term, completely falls apart in the long term, or when applied to a country of 380 million people (as opposed to this one guy).

[bold]Libertarianism:[/bold] [italic]The bizarre belief that you own no debt to the society that sustains you.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 5812/03/2013

No, R55... Libertarianism doesn't work. It never has, and it never will. Not once in history is there even ONE example of a society or civilization organized around Libertarian ideals, policies, or dogma.

There are examples to be found of EVERY other "ism" attempted in the world, but Libertarianism is so deeply flawed, that it's never even been TRIED anywhere. [bold][italic]Because it doesn't just merely "not work", it's not POSSIBLE for it to work.[/italic][/bold]

It's amazing to me Libertarians can't see the obvious... and are so ignorant of society, history, government, economics, and the evolution of all of these things.

by Anonymousreply 5912/03/2013

[quote]It's just a permanent part of the American character--every generation has had this particular substratum of stupidity to call its own: A combination of complete paranoia about institutions and equally unwarranted confidence in oneself.

We seem to have an over-abundance of these morons today... both Libertarians AND the TeaParty, just to name two.

by Anonymousreply 6012/03/2013

Our government is "We, the people" ... we vote it into power, and give it legitimacy.

If you don't like it, stop voting for assholes (i.e. stop voting for Republicans and Libertarians). It'll get better.

And for the record, yeah, stop voting for left-wing extremists who want to ban and nanny-state everything as well.

But dear god, STOP voting for assholes who think government is evil and never works, because they'll just get elected and make it their sole goal to PROVE IT.

by Anonymousreply 6112/03/2013

Iceland is purely socialistic, not libertarian. Somalia, which was not "CREATED" by any American policies at all, is more libertarian. Haiti since the earthquake has also been more or less libertarian.

by Anonymousreply 6212/03/2013

Libertarians have no answer because such an answer would require insight, and they are utterly lacking in that, which is part of why they're Libertarians.

by Anonymousreply 6312/03/2013

Today's libertarians worship the sociopath Ayn Rand, and have become sociopathic themselves.

by Anonymousreply 6412/13/2013

libertarians are lying liars who lie. they know their "philosophy" is a joke and does nothing but provide a smokescreen of justification for their selfish acts. they actively enjoy screwing over others but know that in order for everyone to not band against them them, they need cover, hence the masquerade of being a political movement. they are nothing more than sadists, sociopaths, and greedy hoarders who never grasped the concept of sharing or playing fair in nursery school.

if we could lock them all up in mental institutions, this world would be a better, happier, and more equitable place.

by Anonymousreply 6512/13/2013

Libertarians disliked Ross Perot because he refuted their longstanding claim that their message was being suppressed.

Also, for every law libertarians want repealed, those laws were passed because the absence of those laws was considered unsustainable.

Libertarianism is a good philosphy to apply as a check and balance against big government, but on its own it's like a punch line without a joke.

by Anonymousreply 6612/13/2013

Exactly, R66.

by Anonymousreply 6712/13/2013

We may have no examples of a country run on libertarian values, but do have an example of a company.

[quote] Ayn Rand-loving CEO destroys his empire. The invisible hand waves bye-bye to Eddie Lampert, whose business plan has run Sears into the ground.

by Anonymousreply 6812/13/2013

WHY aren't libertarians doing exactly what the OP says????

HE is in charge here and he is waiting on your pleasure!!!


by Anonymousreply 6912/13/2013

R70 = libertarian moron, generating a distraction in order to avoid answering a simple question. A typical tactic.

by Anonymousreply 7012/13/2013

r71 = OP, sulking because his demands will not be met

by Anonymousreply 7112/13/2013

No, R72, but thanks for playing. There are some nice consolation prizes for you as you leave, including a nice book on logic, reasoning, and debate which you could obviously really use.

by Anonymousreply 7212/13/2013

Oh, you're really terrifying me with your withering comments, r73.

by Anonymousreply 7312/13/2013

As if that were my goal, or as if I cared about what you were feeling either way. I'm just kinda sitting back and laughing at you making a fool of yourself. Whatever.

by Anonymousreply 7412/13/2013

Oh, no one could ever possibly answer that devil-may-care "Whatever"!

You are truly a master logician and manipulator of rhetoric.

by Anonymousreply 7512/13/2013

Translation of R70:

The only possible answer to this question would only help undermine the libertarian cause. So the best thing to do is insult and put down the person answering the question.

by Anonymousreply 7612/14/2013

Exactly, R77.

by Anonymousreply 7712/14/2013

But it's inherently stupid to go around demanding an answer to a question from a Libertarian, as if they're somehow bound to obey your authority.

Libertarians believe they are free to do what they like. They will not respect your authority if you demand answers (or demand anything) from them.

by Anonymousreply 7812/14/2013

[quote]But it's inherently stupid to go around demanding an answer to a question from a Libertarian, as if they're somehow bound to obey your authority.

That's not what the OP is doing moron.

[quote]Libertarians believe they are free to do what they like.

Apparently without any consideration for anyone else, or for civilization/society, or history, or anything else.

[quote]They will not respect your authority if you demand answers (or demand anything) from them.

That's not the point, moron.

Are you really this cluelessly stupid?

by Anonymousreply 7912/14/2013

Oh honey: just calling someone names like "moron" may frighten or terrify the other children on the playground, but it just doesn't work on adults.

If that's all you got, you ain't got much.

by Anonymousreply 8012/14/2013

libertarian = moron

by Anonymousreply 8112/14/2013

I'm not a Libertarian.

by Anonymousreply 8212/14/2013

Libertarians are selfish pricks with the mental acuity and planning capacity of goldfish. They are emotionally and socially retarded, politically deformed, and psychologically dysfunctional.

They are the people our parents warned us against, bad employees/employers, bad neighbors, bad partners, bad people. They should be avoided at all costs.

by Anonymousreply 8312/14/2013

please address the thread at this link, libertarian freaks:

by Anonymousreply 8412/14/2013

When the Italian city states were Libertarian, people were living in houses with towers from which they would drop rocks and boulders on their neighbours like Wile E. Coyote. The stone houses had additions hanging off the buildings over the streets. You would only go out with several mates (or hired hands) for safety.

Then came order with regulations that required the unsafe additions be removed and the towers taken down and people were punished for breaking laws in the cities.

Don't conflate two very different versions of city life by taking the success of order and attributing it to the chaos of Libertarianism.

by Anonymousreply 8512/14/2013

David Simon nails it:

by Anonymousreply 8612/14/2013

c'mon, libertarian troll PUSSIES, explain how your precious philosophy deals with this:

by Anonymousreply 8712/14/2013

i love how libertarians cut and run when their insipid "philosophy" is exposed for the selfish, sociopathic sham that it is.

grifters, that's all they are. grifters.

by Anonymousreply 8812/15/2013


by Anonymousreply 8912/16/2013

and, continued silence...

by Anonymousreply 9012/17/2013

Do we have some insane bump troll operating this month? Really, a thread from 2010? Who even bothers keeping *track* of this shit?

by Anonymousreply 9112/17/2013

Liberals are great with spending money, as long as it someone else's. All their problems and failures are due to someone else, never because they are incapable of supporting themselves. They are stupid fucking sheep who can't run their own lives without some stupid politician telling them what to believe. Most deserve their own failure.

by Anonymousreply 9212/17/2013

gosh, r93, what a reasoned and cogent response to OP's question!

by Anonymousreply 9312/17/2013

Libertarian means-

--Never initiating force. Self-defense ONLY if there is no path to walk away.

--Never lying with the intent to defraud. "Does this dress make me look fat" versus "should we tell the American people that Saddam has WMDs and bombed the WTC"

--Never stealing, or allowing anyone to steal for you. If I can't come to your house and take half your paycheck, then I cannot authorize the government to do it on my behalf.

--Never cheating, by giving someone with a title like "judge" or "officer" or "president" the ability to break the law without consequence.

These 4 things are the essence of libertarianism.

It's so sad that the deluded fucktards here have to twist and lie and misrepresent a philosophy that is so easy to understand.

Plus, when you begin to explore the economic aspects- explained by Menger, Bohm von Bawerk, Mises and Rothbard- the whole system of a morally just, peaceful, productive, cooperative and beautiful way of seeing the world and treating others peacefully and respectfully...well, it's an amazing thing. I'm so glad I rejected the evil socialist/communist Democrats and the Neocon crony capitalist Republicans as a teenager.

If you believe in peace, fairness, prosperity, charity, equality and brotherhood then libertarianism is the ONLY way to achieve it. Every other system ends with a gun in your face and blood on your hands.

by Anonymousreply 9406/19/2014


by Anonymousreply 9506/19/2014

That's not a policy R95, that's an alcoholic's vow.

by Anonymousreply 9606/19/2014

China. Nothing stands in the way of ruthless, unbridled capitalism. Not human rights, not environmental concerns, nothing at all.

by Anonymousreply 9706/19/2014


It's so sad that people like you have such shallow knowledge of libertarianism AND Ayn Rand. She was a crazed harridan.

Mises demolished her pseudo-philosophy.

Here is Rand on libertarians.


Many people assume that Ayn Rand was a champion of libertarian thought.

But Rand herself pilloried libertarians, condemning libertarianism as being a greater threat to freedom and capitalism than both modern liberalism and conservativism. For example, Rand said:

All kinds of people today call themselves “libertarians,” especially something calling itself the New Right, which consists of hippies, except that they’re anarchists instead of collectivists. But of course, anarchists are collectivists. Capitalism is the one system that requires absolute objective law, yet they want to combine capitalism and anarchism. That is worse than anything the New Left has proposed. It’s a mockery of philosophy and ideology. They sling slogans and try to ride on two bandwagons. They want to be hippies, but don’t want to preach collectivism, because those jobs are already taken. But anarchism is a logical outgrowth of the anti-intellectual side of collectivism. I could deal with a Marxist with a greater chance of reaching some kind of understanding, and with much greater respect. The anarchist is the scum of the intellectual world of the left, which has given them up. So the right picks up another leftist discard. That’s the Libertarian movement.

by Anonymousreply 9806/19/2014


How so?

Please justify lying, murder, fraud and theft.

by Anonymousreply 9906/19/2014


The fact that you are so stupid that you have to use a communist country as your example of libertarianism shows how weak and insipid your "arguments" really are.

Please, defend lying, stealing, murder and fraud.

by Anonymousreply 10006/19/2014

The Chinese variant of "communism" is just as meaningless as is the concept of "libertarianism" in any of its variations. In other words, it's a fake ideology spun around the notion that greed can somehow regulate the society and determine what's good for it.

by Anonymousreply 10106/19/2014

[quote]The Chinese variant of "communism" is just as meaningless as is the concept of "libertarianism" in any of its variations.

Yes, murdering hundreds of millions during Mao's "Great Leap Backward" is equivalent to affirming that every person is valuable, and should be treated as such. That lying, stealing, cheating or murdering that valuable individual person is equivalent to the mass murder of Mao. Are you retardation affected?

[quote]In other words, it's a fake ideology spun around the notion that greed can somehow regulate the society and determine what's good for it.

Fake? So, do you lie, steal, cheat and kill everyone in your circle?

Do you lie?

Do you steal?

Do you cheat?

Do you kill?

If so, why aren't you in prison or dead?

by Anonymousreply 10206/19/2014

Libertarians are amoral creeps who belong in the bottom of a deep well

by Anonymousreply 10306/19/2014


Why? Because we don't lie, steal, cheat or kill?

by Anonymousreply 10406/19/2014


Why? Because we don't lie, steal, cheat or kill?

by Anonymousreply 10506/19/2014

And the Libertarian idiot continues to spout irrelevant gibberish, refusing to answer a simple question.

by Anonymousreply 10606/19/2014


Check the link. Proof that socialist policy is always evil.

by Anonymousreply 10710/14/2015

No libertarian I've ever met practices those principles. Not one. And I have known a number of important libertarians.

by Anonymousreply 10810/14/2015



by Anonymousreply 10910/14/2015

Libertarians ruin the world we live in

by Anonymousreply 11010/14/2015
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