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Tom Cruise - Where''s the Evidence that This Guy is Gay?

I'm always reading here that he is gay as if it is a fact, but where's the evidence? All I see is a list of relationships with women going back many years. He lived with Rebbeca De Mornay for 2 or 3 years in the early 1980's after Risky Business. He then went on to marry Mimi Rogers, Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes. To me, living with a woman, being married to 3 others and having a child with one of them does not seem to be evidence of a man being gay. Am I missing something?

by Anonymousreply 53505/08/2015

A narcissist r8? Well that takes care of most of Hollywood. How about batshit crazy for Tammy? Not gay eh? Paging Missy Miscavige!

by Anonymousreply 905/01/2010

I think Andrew Morton got a pile of money from the Scientologists that enabled him to "find" a steady stream of girlfriends.

by Anonymousreply 1505/01/2010

James Van der Beek--another closet-case spawning a brat in a vain attempt to appear hetero.

by Anonymousreply 2205/01/2010

cookies

by Anonymousreply 2305/01/2010

[quote]He picked them up at their hotel, and dropped them off at separate gay clubs.

I find it hard to believe that TC would be in a gay club. I mean, in this day of flip and camera phones, No Way.

Could it be that Hollywood hates him but loves the $ he brings in? Getting back at him in the juvenile way Hollywood is, means perpetuating the gay rumor. I don't see any gays refusing to work with him because he is in the closet and are angry at the hypocricy.

by Anonymousreply 2605/01/2010

"I find it hard to believe that TC would be in a gay club. I mean, in this day of flip and camera phones, No Way." This happened while he was married to Nicole. Way before camera phones.

by Anonymousreply 2705/01/2010

If I am ever charged with a crime, I want the OP on my jury.

by Anonymousreply 2805/01/2010

As per OPs logic: if a tree falls in the woods, when nobody is there, it makes no sound, think otherwise - Prove It! But you can be there in the woods, electronically or otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 3105/01/2010

I could see Tom being asexual.. he seems like he has Aspergers.

He doesn't seem to have normal interactions with people.. even in interviews it seems like he is thinking about being normal.

Nothing about him is natural.

by Anonymousreply 3205/01/2010

[quote]Nicole went undisguised to a gay bar and picked up a date. Hmmm - guess the national Enquirer missed that one.

This was probably around 1991; it wasn't in the U.S.; and they weren't as wildly famous as they soon became. "Far and Away" hadn't been released yet.

by Anonymousreply 3305/01/2010

In some of the recent pics of Suri she is looking very much like Tommy Davis, spokesman (liar) of Scientology.

by Anonymousreply 3405/01/2010

The thing that is weird to me about Cruise is this: you add up all of the pieces of his life, and the list is compelling evidence that he is gay.

And don't kill me for this, but his actual mannerisms don't really register as 'gay' with me. Don't get me wrong, I think that he probably still is. But pretty much every other gay person, whether effeminate, masculine, straight acting, closeted, etc., the entire spectrum eventually has something that reads as being gay.

Cruise just reads as weird and totally phony to me(although a rather pleasant and cheerful phony), rather than noticeably gay.

The biggest evidence is his relationship with Katie Holmes. It is so profoundly fake and everyone thought so even before the Cruise is gay talk hit the mainstream. Someone online described his attempt at convincing people that he loved Katie(during the infamous couch jumping episode of Oprah) as being like someone reacting to winning the lottery, rather than being madly in love. They nailed it, totally bizarre.

And yet, it doesn't seem 'gay'. It just seems like weird Tom Cruise hiding. All I know is that his voice was high pitched in Endless Love, which I think was his first movie.

And then there are the prostitution rumors.

Perhaps someone else can give me examples of what they think seems gay about him.

by Anonymousreply 3605/01/2010

So far the evidence proffered that Cruise is gay is underwhelming. Weird, yes, but that doesn't mean we have to embrace him as one of our own.

by Anonymousreply 3705/01/2010

R33, where was it? Even in 1991, Tom was one of the biggest stars in the world. How could he go to a gay club without everyone at the club blabbing about it(same thing with Nicole to a lesser extent, she was his new wife after all)?

by Anonymousreply 3805/01/2010

Clearly Tom doesn't have aspergers. His behavior is very different than aspergers.

by Anonymousreply 4105/02/2010

Cruise was a client of "Big Red," the hustler whose other clients included Antonio Bandares, Jason Priestly, Andrea Boccelli, Garth Brooks, and Randy Travis.

by Anonymousreply 4205/02/2010

I'm sorry but we don't have a Tom Cruise on our list. We have a Suzie Cruise!

by Anonymousreply 4405/02/2010

So Tom Cruise is a child molestor? Is that why your comparing him to Jackson--really? He's asexual? So, he's like Sponge Bob Square Pants? ANYTHING is preferable to him being gay? Wow, Scientologists must be some desperate little homophobic shits to have interns running around on line searching for Cruise's name and running this kind of bullshit counter-"intelligence"--and this bullshit definitely is the opposite of intelligence.

FYI--Tom Cruise has used a Scientology approved soundboard for his vocals on all of his films spanning back a couple of decades-- yeah, to get rid of the gayvoice. There's the fact that he posed for beefcake pictures early in his career that appeared in gay rags. When those pictures were re-discovered, along with his association with male and female escorts from back in the day--did Tommy get all $100 million dollar law suit on their asses like he likes to do? Why no. The very litigious Cruise kept vewy, vewy quiet.

Not one, but two male prostitutes came forward about their exploits with Tom. Oh yeah, bit law suit threats. One was "settled out of court. Did that escort go bankrupt.Why no. In fact, he seemed to profit from his brush with defamation. Translation: Cruise paid him off to keep his mouth shut. Whore numero dos: wanted to cash out publicly. Gee, like a lot of people who try to cross Scientology, they wind up "suicided." I'm sure he and Jett Travolta are playing languishing on Planet Xenu or whatever the fuck version of hell the cult believes in.

Not to mention dozens of rumors of Cruise with male prostitutes, his wrestling fetish, his affair with Newman during the Color of Money (where Newman turned him on to race car driving and gave him advice about "discretion" because Cruise wasn't being very discrete), his marriage contracts with Kidman and Holmes, his list of bi/lesbian/ desperate actresses to beard for him including Scarlett Johanssen who got the hell out of the Scientology Center when she realized she was not auditioning for a role in a movie.

Is any of this courtroom evidence?

No.

But it's not a crime to be gay. Even if homophobes want it to be.

BTW, not only should the Catholic Church be prosecuted under RICO, by Scientology should be prosecuted for slavery. The computer jockeys they have searching for Cruise's aren't getting paid anything and probably aren't even getting fed.

by Anonymousreply 4705/02/2010

[quote]his affair with Newman during the Color of Money (where Newman turned him on to race car driving and gave him advice about "discretion" because Cruise wasn't being very discrete)

Horseshit.

by Anonymousreply 4805/02/2010

R36 is right. Tom Cruise is a phony. Being a member of that cult is all about being a phony. People like Tom Cruise are immature, insecure people who have been wounded in the heart as children. They can't be themselves because they have no real self to show you.

Maybe we think he is gay because deep down he is commiting action that seem gay: the need for approval, the desire to be taken seriously, the hiding of the open wound, and the need to be right. But anyone can be like that. Also Cruise has a made a career using his looks. Let's face the facts :he is no great actor. His looks have helped him out of many jams. Gays worry about their looks too. Gays can be addicted to youth. Cruise is addicted to us seeing him as the young good looking guy of our teens.

by Anonymousreply 4905/02/2010

I remember reading an interview with Mimi Rogers where she adamantly said that Cruise was not gay. And that she was in a position to comment authoritatively on his sexuality.

Whether she is telling the truth, I don't know. But she is no witness for the prosecution.

by Anonymousreply 5005/02/2010

I've always been afraid to say this on DL, but I'm not sure that Tom Cruise is gay either. I think he's weird and a little too caught up in the Sciento stuff, but I have never seen any convincing proof. And those leaked tapes from his marriage to Nicole seemed like they had a real marriage or as real as any Hollywood marriage can be.

by Anonymousreply 5105/02/2010

The rumours started long before Mimi Rogers and Rebecca DeMornay. Rent boy culture has always been virulently homophobic, which is peculiar when you think about it. And it still is - look at JDMA and all those fag bashing male models. Surely every single one of them has been paid to put out. So too with figure skating and some other sports (Tim Tebow springs to mind). For some reason men react to being objectified with homophobia. I don't understand it myself.

by Anonymousreply 5205/02/2010

I know an ex-Scientologist whose family members are deep in the cult. They have ex-communicated him but he swears Tom is gay. The reason why there is no evidence is because his bfs are usually the bigwigs in the cult.

by Anonymousreply 5705/02/2010

oh yeah, and I DON'T want r47 on my jury.

by Anonymousreply 5805/02/2010

A friend of mine brother, who is film director told my friend that Tom have been with a man before.

by Anonymousreply 5905/02/2010

A friend of Tom's uncle's cousin's sister's brother's nephew's father, told me Tom sucked a cock once.

or is it

A friend of Tom's uncles cousins sisters brother nephews father, told me Tom sucked a cock once.

How the fuck do I write that properly, grammer troll?

by Anonymousreply 6005/02/2010

R50

Here is some drunk ass logic for you...

If Mimi Rogers is a $cieno, then her stating that Tom Cruise is not gay has no validity to it.

It has no validity to it because the $cienos do not believe in homosexuality at all.

Therefore, Mimi Rogers is claiming that Tom Cruise is something which she does not believe to exist.

by Anonymousreply 6105/02/2010

r55, I read a transcript of the taped conversation between Nicole and Tom. From what I read, they seemed to have a relationship but that Nic was very unhappy because she wasn't "getting any" (sex). He seemed to make a lot of excuses like being tired.

by Anonymousreply 6205/02/2010

[quote]It's practically a running joke in mainstream pop culture that Cruise is a major closet case.

Yes, but the rumors hitting the mainstream are because of how obvious a sham his relationship with Katie Holmes is, rather than something about him seeming out and out gay.

Is it possible that he's in a fake relationship for PR reasons(and it blew up in his face), but that he is not gay? Probably not terribly likely, but it could be possible.

I disagree that Oprah seems asexual, I think she is definitely a lesbian and is together with Gayle. With Tom? He seems closer to asexual, but perhaps a better description would be that he seems deeply repressed. Maybe there is a lot of pain in his past, who knows.

And I can't help but wonder if Eyes Wide Shut is much closer to reality for Tom and Nicole than most have suspected.

by Anonymousreply 6305/02/2010

Tom works too hard trying to prove he is not gay. A genuinely straight guy would not give a shit. It would be like a calling a white guy Chinese. The guy would just roll his eyes and think you were on drugs.

by Anonymousreply 6405/02/2010

For the last time, I'M NOT GAY!!!

by Anonymousreply 6505/02/2010

R64, that's a good point. Even if they were anti gay, they wouldn't make a big stink about it, nor would they worry about it.

by Anonymousreply 6705/02/2010

I'm convinced that Kidman is bi or gay. That Nicomi site convinced me that she had something going on with her close pal Naomi Watts. And their adopted kids were straight out of central casting, as they are for most hollywood people.

by Anonymousreply 6905/02/2010

[quote]I remember reading an interview with Mimi Rogers where she adamantly said that Cruise was not gay. And that she was in a position to comment authoritatively on his sexuality.

That was after she told Playboy, and yes it was in print, that she split from Cruise because he refused to have sex and wanted to become a monk.

by Anonymousreply 7205/02/2010

Yes, I believe many noted sex researchers have claimed that human sexuality exists in a spectrum of asexuality to sexuality. Of course, asexuality is reserved for celibrities who don't want others to speculate that they are gay.

by Anonymousreply 7305/02/2010

He crossed the line with me when he started spouting off against Brooke Shields (and psychiatry/antidepressants). My thing is, I don't have a problem with how you live your life, freaky as you might be. But when you start criticizing others, then you open yourself for all kinds of scrutiny and ridicule. He should have kept his ass shut.

by Anonymousreply 7405/02/2010

Mimi allegedly said Tom was very controlling during sex. Always wanted on top, and told her to be quiet and still while he "concentrated" on his performance.

I can see that and it's not what I'd like to be seeing. However, Mimi's big tits seem like nice pillows.

by Anonymousreply 7605/02/2010

[quote]When Tom and Nic were married, early-ish in the marriage, a friend of mine was their chauffeur for the evening. He picked them up at their hotel, and dropped them off at separate gay clubs.

I'm sorry, but I don't buy this for a nanosecond. Tom Cruise was already an international superstar by the time he met Nicole, and we all know what a complete control freak he is regarding his image. It is not fathomable that he would dare entering a gay bar solo circa 1991/1992.

by Anonymousreply 7705/02/2010

transcript

by Anonymousreply 7805/02/2010

Thanks for that interesting link, r78.

by Anonymousreply 7905/02/2010

r64 you are full of shit. And no, it is not a good point. How on earth do you know what "a genuinely straight guy" would do? Basically, your argument comes down to: "he must be gay because he behaves like a straight man."

That is dumb.

by Anonymousreply 8005/02/2010

R76, where did you hear that?

by Anonymousreply 8105/02/2010

Could the 'leaked' transcript of an alleged phone call just be made up by the Cruise camp in order to make it look like him and Kidman were legit?

by Anonymousreply 8205/02/2010

NICOLE: No, Tom, I know what I have. I have two glorious, beautiful children,

For some reason this seems like a line out of a crappy movie to me.

by Anonymousreply 8305/02/2010

I and a few friends saw Tom Cruise at Revolver (gay bar in West Hollywood) a couple of times in the mid-80s shortly after "Risky Business". He was always with someone else and never stayed very long. But to us, he was just the cute actor from "Risky Business" and not a major star at the time. But coming forward and telling someone publicly that we saw him in a gay bar wouldn't really be major news, would it? It's never occurred to me to do anything but post about it as gossip. He wasn't the only celebrity who was seen in the 70s or 80s in gay bars. Saw Matthew Broderick a couple of times. Richard Chamberlain.

by Anonymousreply 8505/02/2010

R85, did he look comfortable and at ease? Was he trying to not draw attention(I know he was super famous before Top Gun)?

by Anonymousreply 8605/02/2010

[quote]Could the 'leaked' transcript of an alleged phone call just be made up by the Cruise camp in order to make it look like him and Kidman were legit?

The guy that taped the conversation was arrested. Do you think Cruise was in cahoots with the cops and courts too?

by Anonymousreply 8805/02/2010

Thanks r87.

by Anonymousreply 8905/02/2010

Why I've PROOF that Tom Cruise hates gay sex. Ask him and he'll bend over and take a guy up his ass and one cock down his throat as many times as you want till both and are sore.

And you ask him, "Tom did you like that?"

And he'll say, cum leaking out at both ends, "HELL, NO!"

Always willing to prove it to you to. He's just that kind of guy.

by Anonymousreply 9005/02/2010

What fucking bullshit r87. Risky Business made Cruise a huge star, and him walking into any bar would have been an 'event' by that point.

Nice try, though. "Oh he was just some minor celebrity". Right. Nobody noticed him. Was no big deal. And he wouldn't have minded his picture being taken at the biggest gay bar in L.A.

Give it a rest hon.

by Anonymousreply 9105/02/2010

I think it was around "TAPS" time that the rumours started.

by Anonymousreply 9205/02/2010

R91, this is why I never bother posting this stuff. Because someone like you gets her panties in a bunch. Actors in gay bars in LA in the 70s and 80s was not that big of a deal. We saw it. Perhaps he was a major star to you and you could have run up to him if you'd been there.

by Anonymousreply 9305/02/2010

OP, the fact that you call it 'evidence' is why he and other guys get married and surpress the feelings.

by Anonymousreply 9405/02/2010

I don't know r88. Stranger things have happened. And it's not about Cruise doing anything but Hollywood. Hollywood types protecting a financial interest.

by Anonymousreply 9505/02/2010

[quote]OP, the fact that you call it 'evidence' is why he and other guys get married and surpress the feelings.

So semantics made Tom Cruise crazy and defensive?

by Anonymousreply 9605/02/2010

Didn't Bronson Pinchot imply in that interview he gave last year that Cruise was gay?

by Anonymousreply 9705/02/2010

Paul Newman broke his heart. For Newman it was just a fun little affair, but all accounts say that Cruise fell in love with him.

by Anonymousreply 9805/02/2010

[quote]I and a few friends saw Tom Cruise at Revolver

You mean that awful place at Larrabee and SM? Yikes. Now I really find all this hard to believe.

by Anonymousreply 9905/02/2010

The world was suspicious of Tom Cruise long before his infamous Oprah couch crusade and alas the truth is pouring out courtesy of Amy Scobee. And there is a gay sex tape as confirmation.

Who? Amy Scobee spent decades working for the upper levels of the Church of Scientology. And now that she has finally escaped she is telling the truth behind the lies of this religion and Tom Cruise in her book, Scientology: Abuse at the Top.

Why? Why after years, I mean years, of loyal service would Amy flip on the Church and Tom Cruise? Star Magazine reports Amy cites years of mental and physical mistreatment as the reason.

So...what does Amy dish about in her book? It sounds like a pretty juicy read. Drug use and gay sex rumors are just a few of the shokcing allegations. Allegations...maybe not. Amy lived with Tom Cruise when he was married to Nicole Kidman. This is firsthand info! According to Amy, they all had to go through intense confessionals while they studied Scientology. Tom and Nicole exposed ALL of the skeletons in their closet. We'll have to read the book to find out all of them!

Although, Amy does give a couple PR nuggets to wet our appetite. It seems we are going to learn Tom was hooked on drugs and had to drop his addiction in order to join some elite group within the Church. She says she will not say exactly what he was hooked on but pot and cocaine do not disqualify one from joining the group. Whoa. Let your imagination run wild this tidbit!

Also, she claims a gay sex tape has been floating around starring none other than Mr. Tom Cruise. She has no firsthand knowledge of Tom being gay but a well-known spokesperson for the Church has the tape. I can tell you my friends out in Hollywood know Tom Cruise is gay. In fact, they tell me it is definitely true and everyone knows it. So why deny it publicly...all the time? Well, the Church frowns on it. They view homosexuality as a disease and from the sounds of it they are handling it for Tom. This part actually makes me kind of sad for Tom Cruise. It must be a very isolating existence when you have to hide your true identity.

Nicole was a beard. But this was not enough to keep her in the good graces of the Church. Amy says every hired hand in Tom's house was a spy for the Church. These maids, babysitters, etc. would report back to the higher-ups with all details related to finances, conversations, agruments, everything. Eventually, Nicole was considered a threat to the Church. And poof...Tom divorced her. Coincidence? Not likely.

This book is affecting his home life...big time! Katie Holmes is livid over the truths being exposed in this book. Katie needs space and time to process what she has learned. Though surely none of this is news to her. Neither Katie not Suri are written about in the book. SO it's not all bad news...right Katie? As for her whereabouts, Katie flew to LA to celebrate Suri's 4th birthday and dashed back to NYC as soon as could.

Don't be embarrased Katie...almost all women would make the same deal you made!

The book will be available on Amazon May 9th. Happy reading.

by Anonymousreply 10005/03/2010

Thank you, r100.

by Anonymousreply 10105/03/2010

Hmmm, I see the powers from the dark side of scifi have succeeded with their threats, because now Amazon.com states the following concerning this article:

Currently unavailable.

We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

by Anonymousreply 10205/03/2010

Editorial review of aforementioned book:

Product Description

A former top insider reveals the nightmare world of violence and abuse at the highest levels of the Church of Scientology. One review states: "At home alone, a 14 year old girl takes a phone call from Scientology. This starts a quarter of a century journey of manipulation, betrayal and sexual, physical and mental abuse. This journey leads to the highest management echelon and one woman's courage to break free. A real page-turner." Mark P. Another writes: "Amy Scobee has written a book unlike any other expose of Scientology. She actually was at the top of International Management for 20 years, and oversaw the recruitment of Hollywood stars into the Church of Scientology. She witnessed the abuse of top managers by their senior, David Miscavige. She writes convincingly of the human rights violations she endured while on the Rehabilitation Project Force, a thinly disguised slave labor camp. Her book is enjoyable to insiders and laymen alike, with a glossary of terms provided, and plentiful footnotes. This is an important contribution to understanding the controversy surrounding the Church of Scientology. The glaring spotlight eventually points to Abuse at the Top." Michael H.

I really fucking wish the scifis will NOT be able to stop this book from coming out. They already stopped Andrew Morton's, even though that was just wee pee in a lake.

Remember how those goons kept waiting for Sumner Redstone, the head of Paramount, at the parking lot at night, next to his car, to threaten him that if he really does go through with firing Mr. Cruise, then...

by Anonymousreply 10305/03/2010

Apparently you can buy it here:

by Anonymousreply 10405/03/2010

I love how "there is no evidence but that doesn't mean anything" is seen as some sort of confirmation that he must be gay.

by Anonymousreply 10605/03/2010

{quote}That was after she told Playboy, and yes it was in print, that she split from Cruise because he refused to have sex and wanted to become a monk.

Mimi Rogers said that this was said tongue-in-cheek. I'm surprised that people take the monk thing seriously. It was clearly a joke.

by Anonymousreply 10705/03/2010

How is it clearly a joke? Cruise wanted to be a priest early in his life.

by Anonymousreply 10805/03/2010

R102 It's stuff like this that make me believe there's an element of truth to it all.

by Anonymousreply 10905/03/2010

On lack of evidence, after all these years no women stepped out to claim she had him except a few dubious ones. Very strange indeed.

by Anonymousreply 11005/03/2010

Gay gay gay gay gay.

by Anonymousreply 11105/03/2010

v

by Anonymousreply 11305/03/2010

[quote]It was a joke on her part. That is what she said later

It wasn't a joke, but it's wasn't said snidely. It was just a matter of fact answer to a question. I read it when it came out. She was told to recant by the powers that be.

by Anonymousreply 11405/03/2010

Kitty Kelley has written about Sinatra, and the Bush family, yet is somehow still with us. Cruise would make such a lively post-Oprah subject.

by Anonymousreply 11505/04/2010

Keep on telling yourself that, R111

by Anonymousreply 11705/04/2010

R116, are you shitting us? Ws your friend shitting you?

by Anonymousreply 11805/04/2010

I am pretty sure he is the OP of the linked thread

by Anonymousreply 11905/04/2010

Take this for what it's worth. It's interesting that a poster upthread mentioned the dear, departed video bar Revolver in West Hollywood...

There was a good-looking, 30-ish guy who frequented Revolver in the early-to-mid '90s. A bit shorter than average, but a great build; used to wear a UCLA lettermen's jacket. Said he used to be a gymnast. Very similar in looks to Tom Cruise.

Anyway, tricked with UCLA guy one night and he claims that he was a dancer/extra working on the Warner lot at the same time Cruise was doing filming studio scenes for "The Outsiders" (so 1983 or so?). According to his story, Cruise liked his look because he thought they "could be twins" and dug the fact that they were both into gymnastics. Cruise tried to get him hired as his stand-in for another movie, and UCLA guy (Jim, I think) said they became fuckbuddies for a month or two. He had a lot of other details that made it seem legit, but that was more than 15 years ago.

I lost track of the guy, although I learned a year later that he was now one of the featured guys on a M4M escorting website. (Red Dragon or something like that.)

by Anonymousreply 12005/04/2010

This NEVER gets old for me.

by Anonymousreply 12105/04/2010

r20, makes sense and adds to the rumour that Cruise loves to love boys who look like him. Thanks for posting, r120.

r121, that poster of Cruise is fucking funny!

by Anonymousreply 12205/05/2010

Regarding R21: Oh the irony

by Anonymousreply 12305/05/2010

r120 - was Cruise a bottom like all the rumors? More details please.

by Anonymousreply 12405/05/2010

.

by Anonymousreply 12510/11/2010

As usual, more innuendo, no facts. No one on this thread has provided evidence.

by Anonymousreply 12610/11/2010

Does anyone have proof Richard Simmons is gay?.

by Anonymousreply 12710/11/2010

He was in the movie ENDLESS LOVE, directed by Franco Zeffirelli. And it's well documented that Zeffirelli only cast young male actors who'd sleep with him first.

by Anonymousreply 12810/11/2010

Every guy is gay here, but i will only believe if i hear from the person own mouth, like Ricky Martin

by Anonymousreply 12910/11/2010

So r129, you don't believe Rock or Monty were gay?

by Anonymousreply 13010/11/2010

Shut the fuck up, R126 -aka pathetic straight fangurl.

You do this on every single thread.

by Anonymousreply 13210/11/2010

I think Rebecca ended up marrying a gay Bruce Wagner.%0D %0D I didn't think he was gay until Scarlett Johannson let it slip that he had tried to get a marriage contract with her.

by Anonymousreply 13410/11/2010

"...during Dharma's first seasons, Gibson's sitcom fame was such that a few critics wondered what it was about the show that prompted Stanley Kubrick to cast Gibson (and reunite him with Cruise) in Eyes Wide Shut (1999)"%0D %0D Gee I wonder. Filming in England. Small role for Gibson. Certainly they couldn't find a local actor for such a tiny role in the movie! (Also, Tom wasn't about to be trapped in England for that amount of time stuck with only Nicole.)

by Anonymousreply 13610/11/2010

"Zeffirelli only cast young male actors who'd sleep with him first."

So does that mean Zeffirelli had sex with Leonard Whiting?

by Anonymousreply 13710/11/2010

Uhhh, yes, R137. On that one Zeffirelli had sex with Whiting and Michael York.

by Anonymousreply 13810/11/2010

Is OP straight or gay? Is there proof? Can anyone provide photos of OP having sex with either a person or animal? Where's the evidence about OP's sexuality?

by Anonymousreply 14010/11/2010

So Zef had a piece of this, R138?

by Anonymousreply 14110/11/2010

Probably the dumbshit is going to say John Travolta is straight, also?

by Anonymousreply 14210/11/2010

I'm sorry r139 but I'm not getting the reference or point of Bullocks story. Can you explain?

by Anonymousreply 14310/11/2010

I told the David Geffen story earlier in the thread and because I'm so perturbed at the idiot demanding "proof", I'll tell another one.

Fair warning: It ain't "proof". It won't hold up in a court of law. So STFU in advance.

A friend is a private pilot who flew Cruise and Kidman someplace years ago. He said they were all smiles boarding the plane with their entourage, as their were potential paparazzi and cameras around.

Once onboard, the smiles dropped. Nicole went to one of the end of the plane with her female "friend" and Tom did the same with his male "friend". The adopted kids sat far away with the nanny the whole time.

by Anonymousreply 14410/11/2010

I have told this story before. A very pretty female friend of mine was at an industry party with her husband, and Kidman sent her bodyguard/assistant over to my friend's table to ask her if she'd like to join Nicole for a drink. She declined, and her husband of course ribbed her about it, said she should have gone and he would have granted her a freebie.

by Anonymousreply 14510/11/2010

What kind of tightass is your friend that she wouldn't at least go have a drink with her? That's damn dumb.

by Anonymousreply 14610/14/2010

I have not idea myself and I have never heard anything that I would call primary proof.%0D %0D I agree with R36. Tom Cruise appears relentlessly phoney- nothing about him seems authentic. It is bizarre. I have no idea what it is about, or if it even means anything. It is creepy.%0D %0D Matthew McC is the same way. He started out sex on a stick and is now so bizarre as to be sort of a gargoyle (sp?). In his case I believe he is or has built a show world around him to remain closeted so he can have a career as a leading man- not much of a career in terms of serious acting, but certainly he has ten of millions from it. Wh knows, although the rumors and blind stories about his antics abound. %0D %0D The rumors around Cruise were hottest when he was making the Rice Vampire movie with Brad Pitt. I have often thought the homoeroticism in the movie was the source of the rumors and even calculated publicity.

by Anonymousreply 14810/14/2010

My mother asked me the same question in 1978.%0D %0D But it was about Rock Hudson.

by Anonymousreply 14910/14/2010

I'm open to believing that Tom Cruise is gay, but what I resent is people who insist they are 100% sure he is when there is no way to know that and who treat those of us who are undecided as idiots.

by Anonymousreply 15010/14/2010

R150, some people are 100% sure.

Why do you blame others for being undecided???

by Anonymousreply 15110/14/2010

It's true, Matthew McBongo just seems like such a liar. Everyone knows he had an affair with Lance Armstrong and now he's happily married with kids or whatever. Sorry but it just seems like he married because he had to have a beard.

by Anonymousreply 15210/14/2010

He's always seemed like a creepy little gargoyle to me, insincere and phony and not particularly good at pretending he isn't. Gay, straight or asexual, that's the least of the big pile of weird that's going on there.%0D %0D That said, my instinct tells me he's probably gay but has a very messed-up sex life in just about every way, so maybe it's beside the point.%0D %0D To those demanding "proof" ... what proof would satisfy you? Is there anything that could be offered to you that you wouldn't explain away somehow? And to those who are "sure" he's gay ... if you don't know him, know someone who knows him well or encounter him in the workplace or socially, you're just as bent as the proof-nazis.

by Anonymousreply 15410/14/2010

?

by Anonymousreply 15511/13/2010

I like the theory that TC is a narcicist and only has sex with people who look like him.

Ew, that also explains TC & DM.

by Anonymousreply 15708/29/2011

I've always found it interesting (and disturbing) that David Miscavige - the socially-inept-when-not-speaking-to-cultists megalomaniac who runs the cult like a personal ATM/'friend'-maker/power-giver (the man took over the cult at a VERY young age and was raised in it to cater to ANOTHER madman, so consider how messed up he must be) went on Tom and Katie's honeymoon with them...and his wife has all but disappeared, banished for some minor crazy detail, freeing DM and his 'bestest buddy EVAR' TC to rock the cult's accounts together...I mean, thanks to DM's obsession with TC, an obsession that was clearly in force before TC joined the cult and only blossomed after he discovered TC was susceptible, the cult has pretty much welcomed TC as their Jesus figure, making him and DM co-rulers of a fanatical (and fractious) cult.

I guess what I'm saying (it's early and I haven't slept) is that it would shock me absolutely not at all to discover that DM and TC are in cahoots in the sack as well as in the cult. That's all...

by Anonymousreply 15812/07/2011

[quote]He's breathing, isn't he? by: Paris Hilton's Lazy Eye

Yes but even Tom Cruise doesn't want a dose of the clap to go with a dose of the crazy.

by Anonymousreply 16012/07/2011

He's a bot. Circuitry. That is all.

by Anonymousreply 16112/07/2011

Tom Cruise's porn star boyfriend who he sued for $100 million (and he withdrew his claim of having sex with Cruise) was a Cruise look-alike also.

by Anonymousreply 16212/07/2011

My age might play a factor in why I think Tammy is gay.

When I was a kid I thought he was straight. But, the $cieno shit which came out while he was married to Nicole Kidman made me change my tune but quick.

by Anonymousreply 16312/07/2011

These rumors would go away if he would laugh off the gay rumors and joke about it, maybe even appear flirty with male interviewers but his constant lawsuits at any hint of him being gay only adds fuel to them. He's phony and so rigidly controlled that he just comes off as creepy to me.

by Anonymousreply 16512/07/2011

There are either a lot of insanely gullible, insanely stupid, or very new people on this thread.

He's gay because straight actors don't threaten authors who might be about to title a chapter "Is Tom Cruise Gay?" with public flogging and possibly beheading. They just don't panic to that extent. That's one.

He's gay because of the many stories (like the few that are on this thread, but multiplied by ten) that have been on gay sites for years.

He's gay because he's super-high-up in a cult that specializes in promising to "de-gay" actors in return for all their money. He's gay because the few who have dared to speak about him haven't said he was straight. He's gay because you can logically draw a line to the men he's befriended who then went on to star in vehicles of their own.

He's gay because there's too much smoke for him to be straight. And without getting hysterical, it does sound pretty fucking homophobic to state that he's more likely asexual. Why? Because it's easier for you to imagine? That's stupid.

Think what you like. I think anyone who doesn't get it yet is too stupid for a gay site. And isn't gay.

by Anonymousreply 16612/08/2011

I think he's a combination of so many of the comments here- Narciscistic Disorder, A-sexual, Scientology- which gives people an inflated idea of themselves. Mix it all together, and you have this robotic, insane guy. Oh, and throw in some good ol paranoia ( hence the lawsuits, re the gay thing-he doth protest too much). And obviously, aging is not sitting well with him - he's botoxed, and fillered himself so much recently, he's like an ad for frozen face - what NOT to do. Squeezing himself into those tight ribbed knit shirts, which do not flatter him anymore. Gay - who knows ?

by Anonymousreply 16712/08/2011

SHudders...

by Anonymousreply 16912/09/2011

oh my god.

by Anonymousreply 17012/09/2011

R51 same here.

by Anonymousreply 17112/09/2011

That video was the saddest, most dorky thing I have even seen. I feel sorry for and repulsed by him at the same time. He really has no social awareness of himself.

by Anonymousreply 17212/09/2011

But he doesn't HAVE to as he is ALWAYS surrounded by freakin' Scientology handlers who ooooh and aaaaah at his every word or movement.

He lives in an alternate universe.

by Anonymousreply 17312/09/2011

I just looked up a picture of Tommy Davis and wow wow wow she really does look like him!

by Anonymousreply 17412/09/2011

I think someone who likes to dress up in wrestling tights and finger another man's hole and balls while wrestling with them qualifies as "gay". Don't you, hon?

by Anonymousreply 17612/11/2011

R176, unless you have photographic evidence of Cruise fingering a guy's hole and balls your "hon" reference is unwarranted.

by Anonymousreply 17712/11/2011

I heard that Morgan Freeman gave him a handjob at a 50 cent concert.

Weird huh?

by Anonymousreply 17812/16/2011

OP, I have sworn affidavits and DNA evidence right here, since you demand them.

by Anonymousreply 17912/16/2011

Does this qualify?

by Anonymousreply 18003/04/2012

[quote]Am I missing something?

Yes, OP, but we haven't got time to get you up to speed.

by Anonymousreply 18103/05/2012

I've never seen and credible evidence or even gossip. Mostly he is just weird- anyone into Scientology is either very weird or dumb or some combination.

I also do not believe Nicole Kidman is gay or ever was.

by Anonymousreply 18203/05/2012

Actually, I've never seen any credible evidence but I still believe he is gay, based strictly on his setting off my 'dar and the way he's conducted his "personal" life (auditioning girlfriends? Who does that?) He ACTS like a pathological closet case, so if he were in reality straight he has completely mishandled his image and the aura he gives off.

by Anonymousreply 18303/05/2012

Whatever issues he has (and there plenty, it seems), all pics of him are creepily narcissistic these days. Actually probably always have been. Like, "LOOK at me, I am a MOVIE STAR, dammit!" Not sure exactly if it's deep rooted insecurity, overt narcissism or a combo platter. It just seems like everything he does is a carefully orchestrated photo op to convince the world what a perfect life he has (and somehow to remind us that we do NOT have that life) and how perfectly handsome, virile and eternally young he is. It's so transparent. And, as I said, sad and creepy. There is just an energy around him, a vibe, perhaps because his "crazy" has been revealed over the years. We know that it is all a facade. And no one is buying it.

by Anonymousreply 18403/05/2012

Well - Nicole Kidman - someone I know was at Robert Evans house and he showed her a picture of Nicole Kidman in a hot tub with another woman from when she was at Evans' and before she was with Tom Cruise and she was with the woman. I don't know if it was making out or what they were doing but whatever it was Evans hung on to the photo and I'd bet he showed it to a lot of people. I believe Evans showed the photo because now it was after she was with Cruise and he wanted to show my friend something he knew about her from before. I don't know a lot of people in theatre or show business who have anything but the usual stories about Cruise, nothing first hand. All of it's predictable, he likes to give the bj, he uses an intermediary (obviously) to set it up and doesn't give his name but the other guy always knows. None of it is "Jack knows" or "He hooked up with Bill." It's all hearsay. The Kidman thing my friend was adament it was what it was.

by Anonymousreply 18503/05/2012

bump

by Anonymousreply 18603/08/2012

Anybody who doesn't already know or believe that he is gay is in SERIOUS, SERIOUS denial.

by Anonymousreply 18703/08/2012

I think he also has ass burgers.

by Anonymousreply 18803/08/2012

I thought the account by "Big Red" seemed credible.

by Anonymousreply 18903/08/2012

He wouldn't be so litigious and defensive about any hint that he may be gay if there weren't a kernel of truth to it. He doesn't have any women vouching for his studly heterosexuality because it doesn't exist. I think he was promised a cure for the homo-thetans and is now bound to the cult because they know the truth about him. Show me some real proof that he's straight (and no, a scientology-brokered arranged marriage is not proof).

by Anonymousreply 19003/08/2012

Did he have an affair with Brent Corrigan?

by Anonymousreply 19103/08/2012

Talk to Falcon star Jeff Palmer. He knows the intimate ins-and-outs of mister Cruize.

by Anonymousreply 19203/08/2012

I don't think he is the father of Katie Holmes' child. He was jumping up and down to have found a woman who looked similar enough to him to mother a child that might look to be his. Katie has a pug nose and Tom's is narrow and aquiline. Suri looks just like her mother, nose and all, and Tom plays daddy very convincingly. Katie is faking Tom's fatherhood and that they have a real marriage.

by Anonymousreply 19303/08/2012

He's straight.

Trust me on this.

by Anonymousreply 19403/08/2012

Asking where the evidence that someone in the closet is gay is kind of a silly question.

by Anonymousreply 19503/08/2012

I have known gay men to procreate with women R18 so I don't know why people go to such lengths to say Suri isn't his. Especially when she looks a lot like him, certainly the eyes. And there are other ways to get knocked up. Lesbians do it all the time sans intercourse.

However there was a transcribed phone conversation of a fight between him and Nicole circa 1999 and it was clear they were in a relationship and it even seemed to imply sexual activity. Maybe it was limited but the point is gay men have been husbands that have been sexually active with for a long time. It's just not healthy to live that way.

My feeling is Tom hates to be gay.

by Anonymousreply 19603/08/2012

the root of tom cruise's panic.

by Anonymousreply 19703/08/2012

Tom was secretly screwing Whitney Houston. He's looking for a new girlfriend now.

by Anonymousreply 19803/08/2012

Exactly what r184 said. That's why people are turned off of Cruise.

by Anonymousreply 19903/08/2012

In fact a friend of a friend of friend stated he had pictures of him doing it with a MALE monkey, at the Jackson Tarzan bar in LA.

He likes to be dominated by MALE monkeys!!!, believe it or not. I have seen the photos!

SO HE IS ONE OF THEM.... YOU KNOW.

HUSH HUSH

by Anonymousreply 20003/17/2012

[quote]I'm always reading here that he is gay as if it is a fact, but where's the evidence?

Honey, what were you expecting when you came here... swornaffidavitslounge.com? dnaevidencelounge.com?

All we have to offer is gossip. If you don't like that, move on.

by Anonymousreply 20103/17/2012

Katie! GET OFF THE INTERNET AND GO BACK TO YOUR ROOM. You are never going to make clear young lady.

by Anonymousreply 20203/17/2012

Is this picture real?

by Anonymousreply 20303/17/2012

Check the insert in this one, another picture of him dressed like a girl:

by Anonymousreply 20403/17/2012

Here is a very early Tom Cruise interview where he shows a lot of vulnerability. He seems to be upset when asked about wanting to have become a priest:

by Anonymousreply 20503/17/2012

Here's a posting from Usenet from a decade ago:

[quote]>I recall rumours starting when Mimi Rogers said they got divorced because he >wouldn't have sex with her

[quote]It goes backway earlier to his social activities while making Losin' It in Mexico, Risky Business in Chicago and Legend in London, all of which had numerous eyewitnesses to his gay proclivities. In the case of Chicago, a gay entertainment reporter for the Tribune I knew at that point turned to me at a press screening for Risky Business, starring the then-unknown Crusie, and said that he was the actor who had been cruising (no pun intended) gay bars while the film was being made in the suburbs, and at that point actually trying to score points by saying he was making a movie. Nobody believed him until the movie came out. Then came stardom, the Scientology blackmailers and the closet

by Anonymousreply 20603/17/2012

Here's the phone transcript...

by Anonymousreply 20703/17/2012

Love the typo in the big quote at R206. He'll always be 'Crusie' to me now.

by Anonymousreply 20803/17/2012

[quote]The fact he sues doesn't make me think he's gay. Actually filing suit makes me think he is straight

Even Liberace won his lawsuit.

by Anonymousreply 21003/17/2012

prostitution rumors - yup that's how he got the part in "endless love"

Cream of Wheat & Georgia

by Anonymousreply 21103/17/2012

R211, are you serious that there are early prostitution rumors surrounding him, or did you just want to make a cream of wheat joke? BTW, what is the whole meaning of the reference 'Cream of Wheat & Georgia'?

by Anonymousreply 21203/17/2012

So what is the real story about Tom Cruise's father? I'm sure we have some generalizations and kind of a standard rehashed story, but even the so called common knowledge is something I wouldn't take for granted. I wonder how bad he may have acted(if he acted badly at all), or I wonder I Tom simply felt neglected.

We really don't know much about him besides I think that Tom said he was a bully or something. I wonder why Tom wanted to go to that Catholic school. Any rumors or speculation you have about Tom's father would be appreciated.

by Anonymousreply 21303/17/2012

r206, yeah they do sound like a couple in that transcript. Nicole sounds super needy and high maintenance and Tom sounds like a control freak, unsurprisingly.

by Anonymousreply 21403/17/2012

We have absolute verificatia from a 'gentleman friend'(Paramount exec) who worked with Miss Cruise on Top Gun. Mary confided to our friend that she had indeed peddled her pussy through the Advocate "models & masseurs" classifieds. One day she happened to suck the right dick at the right time and the rest is Hollywood history!

by Anonymousreply 21503/17/2012

Any truth to that MPC, or do you just have the gift of the gab today?

by Anonymousreply 21603/17/2012

Ewww ... gawd. I couldn't make it far through the transcript. Fucking boring.

by Anonymousreply 21703/17/2012

Any hip hot sissy with functioning fruit-dar knows in a second from watching/listening to Mary Cruise that she is a sissy.

by Anonymousreply 21803/17/2012

I do believe that he's a repressed homosexual, but unlike Travolta, there never seems to be any substantive evidence to support these claims.

by Anonymousreply 21903/17/2012

Tom should have married Whitney.

by Anonymousreply 22003/17/2012

Good point, R222.

Let's give Tom the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's straight(for the sake of my point): Even if that is true, don't you think it's odd that we stumble upon some conversation between him and Nicole were she is begging him for sex?

It makes it look like they are simply breaking apart and once had normal sex, when it's likely that it always was just a fake marriage. Even if he's straight, I just think it's a weird conversation.

by Anonymousreply 22303/17/2012

Posting things like "prove he's the actual father of the child" is a tad ridiculous as some sort of proof that he is gay. Do we expect celebrities now to do public Dna tests?

by Anonymousreply 22403/17/2012

Do you think the stories about him wrestling other guys and hanging around guys who look like him are true, or just creative writing?

by Anonymousreply 22503/17/2012

[quote]the answers to your questions about Tom Cruise can be found in a house in Fayette County, Georgia.

cream of wheat

by Anonymousreply 22603/17/2012

Does he spend time with his wife? Do they live together or are all their outings photo ops? Why does she always dress like she is going to clean fish or pull weeds? Does anyone really know what goes on in the land of Cos?

Is Nicole's marriage for real?

by Anonymousreply 22703/17/2012

'Big Red' was supposedly one Nathan Hamilton (image at link)

Here's a quote from the original dutch Gay News article about him:

[quote]he also couldn't care less what Cruise is up to between his sheets. The hypocrisy of the worldstar bothers him more, what he does in (or outside of) his bedroom is nobody's business. That he once ran into Cruise in a London escort club for boys is a minor detail.

by Anonymousreply 22803/18/2012

R185, do you or your friend think that Kidman had sex with Evans?

by Anonymousreply 22903/18/2012

I love R168's link. It reminds me of the time I was on a week-long shoot with a group of male models. They were all straight except for one who was deeply in the closet but annoyingly homophobic the entire shoot. So much so he pissed of the entire group.

by Anonymousreply 23003/18/2012

The Tammy and Penelope Cruz relationship: did anyone believe for a moment it was anything more than a PR setup?

(I found it as believable as the Michael Jackson/Lisa Presley joke.)

I think that was the moment it tipped into nonsense territory for him.

by Anonymousreply 23103/18/2012

I second the question, R211. What is the cryptic "cream of wheat/Georgia" reference?

by Anonymousreply 23203/18/2012

R63,

Regarding Oprah, one should just watch her shows over the year, and compare how she interacts with female guests versus male guests.

From that, they can draw their own conclusions.

by Anonymousreply 23303/18/2012

R85,

Matthew Broderick is married to Sarah Jessica Parker.

Sarah Jessica Parker and Cynthia Nixon are BEST friends, dating back to a movie they did in the early 1980s. They founded the Drama Department, an off-Broadway company.

Cynthia Nixon has come out as lesbian/bisexual.

What this means, I do not know.

by Anonymousreply 23403/18/2012

Here's an idea: could Tom's dad have been gay or bi or something? And it's related to Tom's issues?

by Anonymousreply 23503/18/2012

R148,

Regarding Matt M., the scene in "Failure To Lunach," where he's bound and gagged, in his underwear, to a chair, had me wondering how many straight actors would have done that.

I sure wouldn't have.

by Anonymousreply 23603/18/2012

R218, what tips you off? I think that his laugh seems a bit gay and giggly(more when he was younger). Now of course he's better at making his voice sound deeper and maintaining it.

by Anonymousreply 23703/18/2012

That recorded phone call between Cruise and Kidman was totally scripted/acted, as R222 said. That was my first thought when I read the transcript after it was leaked online years ago. Their marriage was a sham.

by Anonymousreply 23803/18/2012

If Oprah were asexual, she wouldn't have such a strong couple vibe with Gayle.

by Anonymousreply 23903/18/2012

The conversation in that transcript is like an argument between two very immature people who don't hear each other, or two people who can't express a coherent thought... or a really, really bad script.

When you finish reading it, you feel like they didn't really argue about anything important, yet at the beginning she tells him that their marriage has been hanging on by a thread. It makes no sense.

And how ironic that Nicole calls her kids "glorious and beautiful," but then she gives up on them after the divorce.

In any case, they both sound self-absorbed.

by Anonymousreply 24003/18/2012

R240, maybe parts were improvised and that's what made it nonsensical. They may have had a script to follow loosely. But I absolutely think that line about the kids was scripted. Sounds like a bad Hollywood movie.

by Anonymousreply 24103/18/2012

wow, Nicole sounds like a real bitch. I actually felt sorry for Tom after reading that transcript...

by Anonymousreply 24203/18/2012

Just looked again at the script, and it's laughably over-written. Dialogue as couch-jumping. It's not like they couldn't afford another draft.

by Anonymousreply 24303/18/2012

Lots of straight men and women have marriages where sex no longer figures into it. Life isn't like the "Golden Girls," with old people getting sex left and right. Even Sofia was getting it regular. No your sex life will be over by the time you hit 50.

by Anonymousreply 24503/18/2012

f

by Anonymousreply 24603/20/2012

Tom Cruise was my first celebrity crush, I will always love him.

by Anonymousreply 24703/20/2012

R247, get a Tom Cruise mask and make your wish come true.

by Anonymousreply 24803/20/2012

You people are are nuts. He wasn't gay when I knew him in Glen Ridge. You think everyone is Gay, when really hardly anyone is 4%.

by Anonymousreply 24903/20/2012

What do you mean "you people"?

by Anonymousreply 25003/21/2012

Mapother's stage name ain't Tom CRUISE for nuthin.

by Anonymousreply 25103/21/2012

He is gay. My mates dad works in film (don't know exactly what he does but he knows him pretty well) and he said that he's had male protitutes. He was told to keep it secret so that he can keep selling films

by Anonymousreply 25206/30/2012

You sound cute, Rob.

by Anonymousreply 25306/30/2012

Rob, are you British? So is this from when Tom shot stuff like Eyes Wide Shut in London? He used rent boys?

by Anonymousreply 25406/30/2012

Well?

by Anonymousreply 25507/01/2012

Rob & Tom, huh?

by Anonymousreply 25607/01/2012

What is funny is everyone says he is gay, but no evidence akin to Travolta's.

by Anonymousreply 25707/01/2012

Yeah, I'm not convinced he's gay yet, R257, whereas I'm much more convinced with Travolta.

Tom Cruise could be gay, or he could be just a freak and someone with a lot of other psychological issues, like Mel Gibson.

by Anonymousreply 25807/01/2012

that's ridiculous...suri has his and katie's eyes. she looks just like them....even if they probably did not have sex)

by Anonymousreply 25907/01/2012

re Bronson Pinchot - I interviewed him years ago, and he doesn't mince words - he says just what he thinks about people, even knowing it's going to be in print. He's also brutally honest about himself and his background.

by Anonymousreply 26107/01/2012

R260 is a wishful thinking frau.

Frau's think ALL of their Hollywood dreamboats are straight, and that there is no way in hell that their handsome leading men could ever be gay . . . when in fact, acting is a very, very proven GAY PROFESSION.

by Anonymousreply 26207/01/2012

Who gives a shit

by Anonymousreply 26307/02/2012

Cream of Wheat, Tom.

Cream.

Of.

Wheat.

by Anonymousreply 26407/02/2012

Well, if he is, he'll be an Eldergay officially at midnight tonight. That's right. Tommy Boy turns 50 on July 2nd.

Happy Birthday, Tom Cruise. The Big 5. 0.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, *gasp*LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

(I just pee'd myself. )

by Anonymousreply 26507/02/2012

LOL!!!

by Anonymousreply 26607/02/2012

Tom Cruise is not Gay. As an American, I am entitled to declare that reality is determined by what I want reality to be. I decide that Tom Cruise is not Gay because, to be honest, he is too gross .

by Anonymousreply 26707/02/2012

People think he is gay bc he always seems to be hiding something. But all he is hiding is that he is insane, not that he is gay.

by Anonymousreply 26907/03/2012

Rock Hudson was also married and had a string of well-publicised "relationships" with actresses. This kinda thing is a Hollywood tradition going back to Valentino.

by Anonymousreply 27007/04/2012

I really don't think he's gay either. Just weird and controlling. Not sure why everyone here wants him to be gay so badly.

by Anonymousreply 27107/04/2012

[quote]But all he is hiding is that he is insane, not that he is gay.

Well, he's not doing a really good job at hiding that either

by Anonymousreply 27207/04/2012

Anyone see this about his teeth?

by Anonymousreply 27307/04/2012

If you watch his first movie, Losin' It, he comes across as VERY gay with definite gay voice and looks. It's well-documented that he took voice lessons from a vocal coach to deepen his voice to make it sound more masculine. He was told to take the voice lessons by his agent who told him that his fem voice would hinder his career. He still has a little bit of the fem voice in Risky Business.

by Anonymousreply 27507/04/2012

[quote]He still has a little bit of the fem voice in Risky Business.

a [italic]bit[/italic] of?

by Anonymousreply 27607/04/2012

There's no evidence because he's not gay.

Every time someone says he sues them and they say they have the evidence but where is it?

Where's the beef?

Tom is STRAIGHT. They don't tolerate gays in Scientology. There isn't even any evidence L Ron Hubbard's son was gay. That was made up to disgrace him.

by Anonymousreply 27707/05/2012

Tom is not gay. Stop reaching, queenies.

by Anonymousreply 27907/05/2012

I don't think he's gay. I think he's nuts and doesn't have any sort of normal sexual relationships with anyone. I just rewatched that insane Scientology video he made when he received that weird award and I think the man is always, always, always locked into some sort of bizarre role playing fantasy. He can't let himself go, he is entirely incapable of any kind of self deprecation, he is utterly obsessed with the way others see him. People like that can't grunt and groan and make ugly faces in bed. People like that are always performing. He doesn't ping at all, but he's definitely one of the creepiest people I've known of.

Now John Travolta is a whole other story.

by Anonymousreply 28007/05/2012

I think R34 got it right, Tommy Davis is the dad, although I would imagine technology has advanced far enough to help guys who were thought to be sterile, have children.

But that kid looks a lot like this Tommy guy, it's in the mouth and the eyes, though she resembles her mom quite a lot too.

by Anonymousreply 28107/05/2012

Another photo:

by Anonymousreply 28207/05/2012

And my last one:

by Anonymousreply 28307/05/2012

I think Tom Cruise is beyond a defining sexuality now.

He's believed his own bullshit for so long he has become it. If he locks himself in a glass case every night on his own and meditates to rejuvenate his skin until morning then that'd make absolute sense to me.

That said, I did love the pillow-biter story and the funhouse ride (thank you, DL).

Great actor though and I prefer him in his films than the vast complexity of his life outside of them.

by Anonymousreply 28407/05/2012

Tommy Davis looks very much like William Mapother. I could buy either of them as the father- even Chris Klein or Josh Hartnett. They all look much alike. Josh Jackson and Tom Cruise are outside chances, too.

by Anonymousreply 28507/05/2012

Ummmm Tom Cruise was definitely gaying it up in Charlotte while filming "Days of Thunder." He had a whole little entourage of gay boys and would visit some of the bars. I know because I saw him with my own two eyes . . .

by Anonymousreply 28707/06/2012

I don't want him on our team, so I hope he stays in whatever asexual Scientology orientation he was brainwashed to follow.

by Anonymousreply 28807/06/2012

[quote]Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

What HW actor doesn't have NPD? Name just one. I'll bet you can't.

by Anonymousreply 28907/06/2012

Ask Mr Notaro

by Anonymousreply 29007/06/2012

Ive just read an article that states that actors audition women as "wives" to hide that they are gay, as they perceive this as being detrimental to their acting carreer (i.e female fans...)

by Anonymousreply 29107/09/2012

I think he sucked a lot of dicks to get to where he is today. But I wonder if he is a sexual being, at all. He strikes me as more of an asexual twit who will do what he's got to do to get what he wants.

BUT, I also believe that the rumors, the long-standing rumors, wouldn't exist if they weren't true.

by Anonymousreply 29207/09/2012

Where there is smoke, there is fire. Name one Hollywood celebrity that has come out where the gay rumors weren't there for years.

by Anonymousreply 29307/09/2012

I'll play, r289. Matt LeBlanc. I could name a bunch of ugly ones too, but who's interested in them?

by Anonymousreply 29407/09/2012

I didn't realise Matt leBlanc has come out?

Certainly, there have been rumours about him, including quips about his sexuality in interviews with his co-stars.

by Anonymousreply 29507/09/2012

287, please tell us more about Charlotte!!! What all did you see?

by Anonymousreply 29607/09/2012

A friend had a speaking part in "Born on the Fourth of July." Supposedly, it was contractual that if anyone asked about Tom (what was he like to work with etc.), they were to say he was a "pussy hound."

by Anonymousreply 29707/09/2012

It was 2005 in the United States, he was rich and he still had to have someone arrange his marriage. That means, the guy is gay and did not give a damn who he ended up, as long as the church was happy.

by Anonymousreply 29807/09/2012

Don't you mean "[italic]massive[/italic] pussy hound", R297?

by Anonymousreply 29907/09/2012

Tom Cruise is gay. He has paid guys for sex like Travolta but Travolta is messy and does it with masseurs in public places. Cruise has guys come to one of his houses. He also had a brief fling with one of the heads of Scientology at that guy's sprawling mansion/property. They're still friends but the sex has stopped. Tom still pays for sex with guys occasionally but not as rampant as in the 90s. That's all I can tell you.

by Anonymousreply 30007/09/2012

[r295] That was in response to the question: what actor doesn't have NPD? He's not out.

by Anonymousreply 30107/09/2012

Remember How Rob Thomas' wife caught him in bed with Tammy, and threatened to go public, next thing you know he hired Katie Holmes.

by Anonymousreply 30207/09/2012

Do you mean the DNA evidence and the signed and notarized affidavits, OP?

I can see why you're so disappointed not to have them; you always get so many instances of them on gossip forums.

by Anonymousreply 30307/09/2012

R303 compared to travolta the evidence is absent.

by Anonymousreply 30407/10/2012

I think he's straight. There's really no evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, that he's gay. Travolta, Spacey are glass closet bottoms but Cruise? Just seems like a really angry, asocial guy with perpetual feedback loop syndrome -- tries to manipulate everyone, not realizing he's manipulated, and is then shocked when his latest controlled relationship falls apart.

After this last disaster, I wonder what the pitch at Headquarters will be to their favored son. How did this one implode, Dave?

by Anonymousreply 30507/10/2012

yes your DEFINETLY missing something, hes a closet case, he does ANYTHING and i meant ANYTHING to get publicity, and if anyone even mentions something they think about tom cruise that he dosnt like they get sued within an instant, he also thinks he is telepathic..... yeah i know ok maybe not proof that he is gay, but he blatantly is and thats why he wants his personal life as private as you possibly can, no celebrity in history has made up as many cases in court as this guy, he is THAT scared people might actually know the real him, and considering his little outburst on operah, i think even he knows people are onto him these days. if not gay hes definetly bi lol

by Anonymousreply 30607/13/2012

The Clams are out in force!

by Anonymousreply 30807/13/2012

Is it really wishful thinking? Someone should do a poll of DLers who want/do not want to fuck Tom Cruise.

by Anonymousreply 30907/13/2012

[quote]He acts weird, so everyone thinks he's "gay". It's a bunch of wishful thinking from gay men,

The stupidity of people like r307 is astounding. Gay men don't wish for that nutcase to be gay. Gay men don't want any connection to anyone ignorant enough to join a whacko cult.

by Anonymousreply 31007/13/2012

[r307] do you remember Kyle Bradford (real name: Chad) , the gay wrestler rent boy who has been silenced? His "wife" said this:

""In 1999, Chad went through some drastic changes. We were apart a lot. I was editing a film and he was building a website focusing on his new hobby -- wrestling. Then one day he came home bursting with news. Chad told me, 'Guess what! I just wrestled Tom Cruise!"

"He told me he was approached by Tom on the Internet. He said Tom saw his Kyle Bradford website and contacted him to wrestle. They met at the Century Plaza Hotel for a wrestling match in one of the rooms. From that point on, Chad was always walking to and from the Century Plaza Hotel where was meeting with Tom. Chad told me that Tom would take a hotel room uder an alias and place a bodyguard at the door. Then they would take mattresses off the beds and put them on the floor so they could wrestle."

by Anonymousreply 31107/13/2012

Kyle Bradford was virtually everywhere on gay wrestling sites and various tapes. He has disappeared. One hell of a law suit. I guess it forced him into "retirement".

Cruise's homosexuality is not mainstream. Think jock seminarian -- it's all about wrestling and body contact. I'll bet hes into the Princeton rub. It is something that exists apart from his day to day life. It doesn't even fit into mainstream gay life.

by Anonymousreply 31207/13/2012

[quote]One hell of a law suit. I guess it forced him into "retirement".

Perhaps a huge deposit into Kyle Brandford's bank account bought his total silence.

by Anonymousreply 31307/13/2012

TBH the lack of evidence is all through that site, and those accusations. There's an assumption that Cruise could buy these guys off -- as in, they just wanted money -- but if that's the case there's only one real option: they tried to privately blackmail him, he told them (or COS did) to fuck off and they had it out in public.

This doesn't point to someone who's afraid of incriminating evidence.

Then you have the talk about Cruise's wives. In an early paragraph it's speculated that Cruise lost Nicole when she walked in on one of his wrestling matches. Fair enough. But doesn't this go against all this talk of phony marriages?

Sure enough, later in the same article, beards and contracts are mentioned as if it's obvious. But then why is the article also stating that Nicole left him because he was cheating with men?

Then there's the Cher stuff. She may be a fag hag -- what big time female singer isn't(?) -- but she's also straight and she has power. She had more power than Cruise when she dated him. What would be her interest in bearding for him?

Most celebs are accused of being gay at one time or another. The only thing that sticks out about Cruise is that he sues. But COS and Cruise sue over a lot of shit. It doesn't really prove anything other than the controlling nature of the church and their most ardent supporter.

Further, if there's any certainty it's this: COS and Cruise are massive homophobes. Anytime he's accused of being gay it's seen as morally repugnant and an attack on his manhood. In a way, that's what makes this gossip so entertaining: Cruise absolutely hates being thought of as gay, and more and more people just assume it. But there ain't really anything to hang it on.

Of the guys assumed to be gay, the case against Cruise may just be the absolute weakest.

by Anonymousreply 31407/13/2012

There's no evidence Michael Jackson is a pedobear but he was

by Anonymousreply 31507/13/2012

[quote]There's no evidence Michael Jackson is a pedobear but he was

Idiot.

by Anonymousreply 31607/13/2012

[r314] Unless you talk to people who have worked with him through the years who tell you that Tom is gay. Why are you defending him against these rumors.

by Anonymousreply 31707/13/2012

Oh and [r307] [r314] "It's a bunch of wishful thinking from gay men" ~ most gay men do not like Tom's homophobia, internalized or otherwise. Tom has a lot of, a lot of issues, not the least if which is believing his own lies about himself. Bradford's "wife" was sued for what she said to the inquire and they kind of lost that one. Cruise and his lawyer had to pay her legal fees. Unless you can explain to me the wherefore of Bradford/Notaro's "disappearance", the burden of proof is on you that former gay seminarian Tom Cruise is straight. God, it's so fucking obvious.

by Anonymousreply 31807/13/2012

from the Daily Beast.

by Anonymousreply 31907/13/2012

[quote]Remember How Rob Thomas' wife caught him in bed with Tammy, and threatened to go public, next thing you know he hired Katie Holmes.

But that turned out to be a hoax. In fact Thomas was on someone's show shortly thereafter - Bill Maher's I think - and commented that while he's ok with people thinking he's gay, he was really offended that anyone would think he'd lower himself by going to bed with Tom Cruise of all people.

by Anonymousreply 32007/13/2012

Stars are liars by nature. He now says he would have prefered Brad Pitt.

So maybe it wasn't Rob Thomas, then who was it? There are any number of brothers on the downlow...why not one of them?

by Anonymousreply 32107/13/2012

yes you do, & a lot...those women were his cover...when there's smoke there is fire...wake up!...gay loves to have their bio kid/s bec he feels pretty & would love to see his own breed/liking...

by Anonymousreply 32207/17/2012

I thought this was a parody thread at first. Wow.

Well, Tom's now 50 and the 50+ fraus who grew up loving him won't easily let go of their dreams. Why their on DL is a whole other question...

Still, I'd bet you'd have seen similarly delusional posts 5 years ago if you suggested Travolta was queer.

by Anonymousreply 32307/17/2012

Do you think that Tom simply doesn't have much sex? I do wonder about him...he obviously fights against his gayness.

by Anonymousreply 32407/17/2012

Tom has many orgasms. I see to that.

by Anonymousreply 32507/20/2012

He SUCKS at bearding.

by Anonymousreply 32607/20/2012

Tom's probably glad about what happened in Aurora.

by Anonymousreply 32707/21/2012

How many people has Tom sued for saying he's gay? That by itself is proof enough.

by Anonymousreply 32807/21/2012

Trying to solve the riddle of Tom Cruise is senseless. An obvious answer is that this tightly controlled image conscious individual is gay. That is the secret to his weirdness. Probably not. To become the biggest star in the world, he got rid of anything about himself that was real. That's sad. Maybe sadder is all of us who made him a star and then obsessively try to figure out why this man, in middle age, appears to be so strange.

by Anonymousreply 32907/21/2012

I have never got the gay rumors too about Tom Cruise. Travolta maybe but i've never had a gay vibe about Cruise.

by Anonymousreply 33007/21/2012

I am amazed that he is still popular. Even the biggest movie stars hit a point of no return in their careers, but this guy is relentless. I don't think he has anything going on outside of his cult and the work, so he invests himself completely to make success of both. It's almost like Hollywood will never be able to get rid of him.

Agree with R280. Cruise seems like a Pod person. I see him as completely asexual, too.

by Anonymousreply 33107/21/2012

R314, what a waste of thought your post was.

You sound clueless, deluded, and dim. And straight. And the epitome of what used to be flamed off DL.

by Anonymousreply 33208/13/2012

I never thought Tom was gay but after a guy buys his bride...it tends to make him look gay.

by Anonymousreply 33408/13/2012

One of the earliest posts on this thread.. 'OP, the answers to your questions about Tom Cruise can be found in a house in Fayette County, Georgia" got it right.

There is a gay couple that lives (or used to live there)there that used to throw a lot of parties in the late 90s, early 2000's. They have multiple photos of Tom, and these photos very clearly provide evidence that he is gay. I know they were a bit guarded about the pics but they did like to show them off. If you get your hands on these, you could shock Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 33509/26/2012

bump

by Anonymousreply 33609/26/2012

I always thought he was gay & I was even told he was. But based on the intercepted phone conversation from the late 90s it's obvious he and Nicole had a romantic relationship, although at that point it was a strained one. But clearly a relationship. Which is contrary to the info asome person here was supposedly told, which is that they'd drop the act after they boarded a jet and go to separate quarters and not speak.

Also leaks from escaped ex church members who were hired to look after & spy on Tom said he was weird, almost pathological in that he couldn't be alone. As soon as he'd come into a room he'd ask WHERE'S NIC"?

Another account is from Marty Rathbun. He says Miscavige was raging after Battlefield Earth tanked and ripped into Travolta telling Cruise 'You can't trust 'faggots' with anything'.

Miscavige also told staff that Cruise could never serve as #2 in the organization, because he couldn't join the Sea Org with his drug history. He said otherwise he'd be perfect because of his dedication since he had sacrificed love (Kidman) for the church.

There are no leaks from the church about Cruise being gay but plenty about Travolta. Even Amy Scobee who said Miscavige reads Tom's auditing files out loud to his inner circle for laughs, said she had no knowledge of his gayness.

It confused me because as far back as I can remember I assumed he was gay, maybe bi but with a definite preference for men.

by Anonymousreply 33709/26/2012

Is Rebecca D. a lesbian? I have to wonder. Also, I question if that was really an affair or simply David Geffen trying to beard his star? Risky Business was a David Geffen film.

by Anonymousreply 33809/26/2012

[quote]But based on the intercepted phone conversation from the late 90s it's obvious he and Nicole had a romantic relationship, although at that point it was a strained one. But clearly a relationship.

Because there's no way Tom and Nicole, two ACTORS, could have ever faked that phone conversation. Nope, no way.

by Anonymousreply 33909/26/2012

A) How would they know they were being intercepted?

B) And if they somehow rigged the interception why cast such a negative light on their own relationship? That's not the kind of shit anyone would want to share.

Then there are all the ex members, some of whom lived with them who are supporting that he and Nic had a real relationship but they are also saying negative things about Tom.

by Anonymousreply 34109/26/2012

R341: I agree the phone call was probably real but that doesnt preclude Cruise from being gay. It could just mean that he was deeply closeted and quite needy. His religion claims to clear the gay Thetans afterall....a needy closeted man.

This whole thread is hilarious though. After decades of trying to "claim" Tom Cruise, I guess the gays figured they dont want to be associated with that crazy dick. Assexual my ass. That man is gay, gay, gay!

by Anonymousreply 34209/26/2012

I know this is off topic, but how many people also feel that at some point in his life, Tom Cruise was involved in a murder, whether he did it himself or had someone do it?

by Anonymousreply 34309/26/2012

He does give off a creepy vibe, I don't know about murder but maybe something sinister (besides the drugs Miscavige was bemoaning).

Yeah it's possible he's deeply closeted or is very afraid of his attraction to men. Just thought it weird there so much, even from the church on Travolta and zilch on Tom.

by Anonymousreply 34409/26/2012

Saw Cruise on Crosby St last Sunday. He's tiny and he has the body of a 14 year old girl.

by Anonymousreply 34509/26/2012

I wonder what Cruise thinks about the often-repeated story about Miss Cabbage reading from his confessional transcripts for laughs.

Not that he can do much about it. He's owned. The pair of them are locked in for this phase of their earthly span. Time enough for ever-deeper weirdness.

by Anonymousreply 34609/26/2012

It's kind of odd that three of his wives were much larger than he is. He's a midget.

by Anonymousreply 34709/26/2012

I've never seen any real evidence to indicate that he could be straight or bi.

by Anonymousreply 34809/26/2012

R343, Perhaps Tom treated Nic like a mother figure, or possibly older sister. Occasionally physically close, but asexual. Also since Nic is clearly the better actor and more educated, maybe she tried to wield power in the relationship.

by Anonymousreply 34909/26/2012

There is no evidence. Because there are nondisclosure agreements.

by Anonymousreply 35009/27/2012

No short straight guy EVER marries a woman taller than himself unless he has a fetish for them. Short straight men are terribly insecure.

by Anonymousreply 35109/27/2012

I always thought he was creepy and perhaps, if not gay, asexual. Something is off about him and, yes, I could easily see him killing someone. He's that creepy.

It's almost as if he's dropped off the public radar though. Very quiet and no pap shots of him with Suri. Even Katie's been relatively low key lately. I'm sure Miscavige has ordered Tom to lay low with all the negative church shit that came out.

by Anonymousreply 35209/27/2012

The couple from GA has no intention on bringing anything forward. They have a relationship with someone inside his inner circle, so you won't be getting it from them. They would have no financial interest as they are well off. Cruise has leaked himself elsewhere, and eventually something will come out. He's as gay as Travolta.

by Anonymousreply 35310/03/2012

Tom has a nice sized but extremely curvy dick, I have been told by a reliable source.

by Anonymousreply 35410/04/2012

The latest: Tom is in love with uber-beard Cameron Diaz.

by Anonymousreply 35610/04/2012

R358, "Cream of wheat" refers to bland, white bread type people. They probably want to keep a very, very low profile and definitely avoid any media scrutiny of any kind.

by Anonymousreply 35910/07/2012

I think he would suck at sex. So uptight and concerned with his public image. Unless he was a shouty, verbal bottom, or got really into sucking my dick, I'd get tired of his shit - fast.

by Anonymousreply 36010/07/2012

I hope TC writes his autobiography in my lifetime...I would love to read it.

by Anonymousreply 36210/07/2012

Scientology stole his soul. He gives off no sexual vibes whatsoever. He's probably asexual. Zombies tend to be that way.

by Anonymousreply 36310/07/2012

I think Keanu's biography would be much more interesting, extremely interesting.

by Anonymousreply 36510/07/2012

This tschmitz person is too exhausting to read, seriously.

With loads of money, and a powerful cult supporting you, you can get away with lots - and leave no trace.

You can arrange for a fake telephone call to be fake "intercepted".

You can do all kinds of things to fool the public.

Morton found 'no evidence'? But who says Morton wasn't paid off or forced to say that?

You're not dealing with a small time crook. TC is as sinister as his cult is, and that's all you need to know.

And please, 'tschmitz', spare DL more of your naive questions. At least, try to be more succinct.

by Anonymousreply 36610/07/2012

[quoteif i had never heard of these rumors, i would never even remotely think of cruise as being gay or bisexual.. he has never given off any vibe like that to me whether in films, interviews, etcetera. to me he comes across as a very red blooded heterosexual male whose a jock, not the most intellectual person in the world, but a decent good person with a big robust personality, one of those very positive people who actually laugh too hard and smile too much when they are not being intense. you know the type who are sometimes so sickening nice and positive even though they are not trying to be. i used to have a friend like that. he would laugh louder and harder than anyone, always smiling, intensely looking at you in the eyes when he met you, etcetera. and yes he is straighter than straight with a wife and 2 kids. just a very intense upbeat but generally good guy.quote]

This is all you really need to read in "tschmitz's" diatribe. tschmitz=clam

by Anonymousreply 36810/07/2012

R368 I agree he's either a fanbot or a clam.

But even I am questioning the long held rumor, in part because "clams" LERV to gossip and there have been many a gossiping clam yapping about Travolta.

Even Miscavige fucked JT over. Marty Rathbun heard him say in a rage to Cruise, "You can't trust fags" after Battlefield Earth tanked. Of course he also fucked-over Cruise by reading his private auditing files out loud to his inner circle.

The tape is also curious because like I said, no one would deliberately rig something in a way that put them is such a negative light.

The babies being someone else's is beyond lame, it's ignorant even if he was-is gay, because even hetero couples who have trouble conceiving can use IUV. Suri even looks like him.

I leave open the possibility he's gay which I'd always thought but recent disclosures or lack thereof from Co$ made me wonder.

People are rarely caught in sex acts tschmitz so the fact that no photographic evidence has emerged doesn't mean much. There's none on Travolta and others I can think of either R364

by Anonymousreply 36910/07/2012

Clam...his spelling, grammar and over all style of "speak" points to poorly educated clam.

by Anonymousreply 37010/07/2012

I've had him

by Anonymousreply 37110/07/2012

[quote]The clam claim.

Clam or disturbed fan, you have way too much invested in this gossip and that's what it is. Harmless, fun gossip.

by Anonymousreply 37310/07/2012

Tom Cruise doesn't leave clues, r361/371/other clams/fanbots...He leaves bodies behind (ever heard of "Big Red"?). Of course, this is the Scientology cult's favorite way of dealing with 'dangerous enemies'.

by Anonymousreply 37410/07/2012

Agreed, r368.

I too thought he's a clam.

What a bunch of idiots.

Hey, 'tschmitz', in the court of public opinion both TC and your nasty cult have LOST big time!

His reputation is beyond irreparable, and it's only a matter of time before they start investigating your overlords.

Enjoy!

by Anonymousreply 37510/07/2012

r374, just curious: what is 'Big Red'?

Like other here, I too can see TC killing a person. He's that creepy.

by Anonymousreply 37610/07/2012

"Big Red" was a hustler who d a fatal 'accident' after going public about a private "wrestling session" he had with Tom Cruise.

by Anonymousreply 37710/07/2012

Here's a link to the story...

by Anonymousreply 37810/07/2012

So whatever happened with that Pellicano cas?

by Anonymousreply 37910/08/2012

Big Red is still alive - a few years ago he turned up in London - I don't know what he;s doing these days. Nothing ever happened to him. I never heard about TC or anybody going after him for his claims.

Baressi said he had facts about TC and other celebs. It was posted on Hollywood Interrupted and you can still read it. Baressi said a book was coming and spilled the beans on TC, Garth Brooks, Banderas and others. He posted amazing stuff on these guys with Big Red.

Suddenly Baressi is saying he had not facts - not book came out. Extortion? Payoffs?

I have no information except what I read on the web. I don't know TC or anyone else and have not personal knowledge of anything. It's all really fishy.

by Anonymousreply 38010/08/2012

[quote]i don't think "gossip is harmless" either. what if it was you?

When you are a celebrity and open up your whole life to the public you must be willing to take the criticism, mockery, etc. that comes with being a celebrity.

by Anonymousreply 38210/09/2012

[quote]would somehow find the time and the inclination to as this "big red" guy said " use a computer and find his website on the internet? and set up their meeting? really? using a computer?

You aren't very swift are you? Assistants could easily arrange for a tryst and you don't think Tom Cruise has a laptop of his own. He would have plenty of time to use a computer in his trailer on breaks. Lots of married, on the down low guys cruise the net looking anonymous gay sex.

BTW, a clam is a scientologist and a fanbot is a delusional nut fan who spams blogs and articles about their favorite obsession excusing or justifying their behavior and contradicting any gossip just like you are doing. Hence you are either a clam or a trolling fanbot. You are def not a DL'er and we usually have a higher caliber of spellers here.

by Anonymousreply 38310/09/2012

As far as I can find Big Red has never issued a retraction of what he told Baressi and it seems he is still walking free and happy as a bird here in the USA and abroad. How can that be? If he was spreading these lies and the lawyers of these stars he outed as clients would have forced him to say his stories were made up. The stuff about Garth Brooks and Banderas were just as sensational and nobody slapped those accounts down. I just can't figure out what's the truth here. Did Big Red get paid off to just shut up and 'travel' on an annual allowance as long as he was quiet? Who knows, I sure don't!

by Anonymousreply 38410/09/2012

anonymous:

1)oh so if your a celebrity you have no rights then in your way of thinking? they are still people and if this hurts and ruins them then it's one big "oh well" with you? rumors, lies, gossip are wrong no matter who or what..

2)so i am a delusional nut fan? really? really? why because i have a different point of view? why because i raise questions and want proof? questions by the way you have yet to expound on. why because i am trying to be i think objective in my questioning of this long held rumor? why because i'm being "positive" in regards to this man's life? well what is the term then for you? being that your the opposite? wow! so anyone who questions gossip is wrong? or a delusional nutjob fan? hmm, i thought and was raised that if you don't know the truth and have no proof (eyewitness account, meaning YOUR the eyewitness,etcetera) that you don't say and spread gossip and rumor.isn't the world supposed to work in that gossip and rumor is what is needed to be proven, otherwise what the world sees and reads of a person, place or thing that is the overwhelming majority of information that is what is supposed to be true and believed.

as far as computer usage, sure cruise during his "breaks and off the set' could use a computer or even his assistants. i just find it very very hard to believe that like i mentioned before during this very long unheard of nearly 2 year filming project of all those hours, that any "few minutes of being off the set" during 12 to 16 hour days that he would "hop" on his laptop and do this? or have his assistants do this for him? and then with a whopping 3 days off of filming for 2 years then would meet up with this 'big red"..where's nicole? laugh!

by Anonymousreply 38510/09/2012

oh i forgot to mentioned one more thing: you (anonymous) mentioned that plenty of married gay men on the DL cruise the net looking for anonymous sex.. one issue with that. the worlds' most famous movie star is NOT obviously your "everday" married guy looking for anonymous sex on the internet...

i'm just trying to find the truth and the believeability in all this, that's it...i don't want to argue with you or anyone.

even if cruise had the power of a president, all the money he could want to use and wield to protect himself and block and deny and put down if these rumors are true, i myself cannot believe someone in his situation WOULD DO THIS! not just this big red situation, but ALL THE MANY MANY MANY other supposed sexual incidences.. it defies belief.

he would either have to be beyond stupid, beyond indiscreet, beyond insane or a combination of all 3 to think NONE OF THIS WILL EVER COME OUT NO MATTER how you try to cover it? and yet flip out and sue when something arises? makes no sense how ANYONE would act, whether a mega famous person or joe schmoe...

of course, i also cannot believe someone in his situation would spill ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to some joe schmoe/regular person in audit in scientology audits for years now either as supposedly cruise has done as well and how supposedly there is alot of stuff that he would not supposedly want to have the public know? and never once thought "gee, i'm super famous, what if this stuff gets out? EVERYTHING EVENTUALLY DOES DOESN'T IT?

by Anonymousreply 38610/09/2012

I believe the stuff that big red said and yeah it is proof. The stuff about Brooks, Randy Travis, and Banderas isn't that surprising either.

by Anonymousreply 38710/09/2012

I am not the same person you are posting replies to. Every story is different and I don't know anything about Tom Cruise's personal life except what I see on TV and read on the web.

I know that stars do manage to live totally separate lives and never seem to get caught. The press just doesn't seem to notice some things that are going on right under their eyes. I knew Alan Bates years ago and he was gay - completely gay and word was out there but nobody really noticed, There was a recent book that 'outed' him, but he was never really in the closet. I was at parties with him where everybody knew, it was no secret. Maybe he wasn't a big enough star for the tabloids to be interested in him.

by Anonymousreply 38810/09/2012

Tom seems to have a very highly developed superego (strong sense of right/wrong/no gray areas) and is so brainwashed by the scienos that he lacks an integrated personality structure and any sense of an authentic self, sexually or otherwise. I think that is the reason he is such a successful actor.

by Anonymousreply 38910/09/2012

Is it just me or does anyone else find the clambot's posts almost unreadable. Horrific spelling, punctuation and grammar.

I agree R389. I think Tom has a messiah complex from years of culties sucking his ass and telling him how wonderful he is.

by Anonymousreply 39010/09/2012

tschmitz if you notice most everyone on here is anonymous. Are you blind?

by Anonymousreply 39110/09/2012

So Nicole said she never felt comfortable with Cruise but Urban was like an ocean, inviting her in. Why do actors say things like that? It's always rather confusing.

by Anonymousreply 39210/09/2012

Maybe Urban is more like a void, one that Nicole was happy to fill.

I'll wager he doesn't try to fill [italic]hers[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 39310/09/2012

Proof that you are not a DL'er R394. You are obviously just dropping by at the hint of a Tom Cruise story. Fangurl or scibot. We post anonymously because people who sign with a user name or "authenticated" get dumped on bad besides sometimes we post very naughty things. We respond to others with R394 or R1 or whatever comment# shows up on a person's comment.

by Anonymousreply 39510/11/2012

Usually when I see "this guy" in a posting, whether it refers to Tom Cruise or Obama, there's something that's not right. Real people don't use the term "this guy" like that, but folks planting fake items do.

by Anonymousreply 39610/11/2012

NO, i'm not a Paid member of the datalounge. is that bad? Exhausting for the nth degree time, i've already admitted i was a fan of his work, and i'm NOT in scientology!.. all i wanted was the truth and evidence of the truth on this subject matter. I do question why everyone or the large majority have to be negative? why is that? so i like, love his movies, so i'm a "fangurl"?

seemingly so far whenever i have asked for more details and probing questions on a alleged "encounter or incidence" i have yet to get a reply or answer back? what does that say?

And when i post my thoughts and opinions, i am judged being "rambling and exhausting to read" (hmm, 1 to 3 paragraphs exhausting)or critiqued on my grammar, punctuation or spelling.

as far as EVERYONE using anonymous because they might get "dumped on" and sometimes "post naughty things"? hasn't stopped me yet. I don't understand how someone would feel "protected and safe" if they used anonymous instead of for example joeblow or "gulp" initials of their actual real name. it's the internet NO ONE KNOWS who you are and where you live? peace....

by Anonymousreply 39710/11/2012

Coming out day 2012:

"Every gay person must come out. As difficult as it is, you must tell your immediate family. You must tell your relatives. You must tell your friends if indeed they are your friends. You must tell the people you work with. You must tell the people in the stores you shop in. Once they realize that we are indeed their children, that we are indeed everywhere, every myth, every lie, every innuendo will be destroyed once and all. And once you do, you will feel so much better." –Harvey Milk

by Anonymousreply 39810/11/2012

R397 aka tschmitz - You are obviously a Scientologist. So here is a question for you: Why is it that every Auditor that was personally trained by L.Ron Hubbard has been declared a Supressive Person by David Miscavige? Excepting the Auditors that have died, of course.

Awaiting your badly-spelled, grammar-challenged answer.

by Anonymousreply 39910/11/2012

Are we not on prime time anymore? Seems lots of trolls are here at various times of the day and I can't help but wonder if they ponied up the $18 to post 24/7.

by Anonymousreply 40010/11/2012

tschmitz. There is no hard evidence. There almost never is. The fact that Kristen was caught with a director after three years of intense spotlight ought to drive that point home. Does anyone really think that's the first time she or Rob played around?

Travolta, who is sexually compulsive, has never had a shot taken of him "in the act." Not one that was published. However there are plenty of leaks about him- both outside and inside gossipy Scientology org, and none about Cruise. That one fact made me wonder.

by Anonymousreply 40110/12/2012

jeez, once again, i have to state this? not a scientologist! never was, never will be!..

i have no idea why i'm defending myself from yet another named "anonymous" poster.

If i didn't know any better I would think this particular "anonymous" isn't even a mature adult trying to decipher and discuss this issue, but instead just trying to get the proverbial "rise out of me".

Born and raised catholic, but am no longer practicing. I personally don't really believe in organized religion for the most part, however, i do believe there is a GOD just not the kind that various religions describe. I consider myself a spiritual person more than religious.I try to live my life simple, be nice to people, treat them the way you would want to be treated, don't cheat, steal,etcetera. Basic good human qualities.

While i'm at it, I will say that i have bought a couple of scientology books, NO,NO, not books about their teachings, but I guess you would call them investigative expose books on what i believe is a cult. For example "inside scientology" and "blown for good".

Whether knowing how to fix a car, how to plant a garden, how the government works, the history of china, whatever, In my way of thinking, I will not have a opinion or state a opinion whether about a person, place or thing and whether outloud to a person or yes, posting on the internet on something i know nothing about, or have never experienced personally.

Sadly, most of the world is NOT like that. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion, it's called freedom of speech in this country, but does that mean that EVERYONE SHOULD voice their opinion?

Most of the public spouts off on anything and everything even though they have no information, no experience, etcetera.

While i don't think it's wrong to say having a opinion on something as mundane and simple as "i don't like that brand of ice cream". It's an entiretly different matter when your talking about negative and downright hurtful and destroying "opinion" on a person.

You can say " i don't personally like president obama or i don't personally like mitt romney" that is fine. But to go into character assassination repeating rumors of what you have heard or read somewhere without even knowing the person, without doing some research, etcetera basically NOT knowing any truthful unimpeachable facts is WRONG! and then to do this and spread it where like a disease it grows and grows whether in person or the world wide internet.Rumor becoming fact, and how the rumor is the one that is believed, and the overwhelming information to the contrary is what needs to be proven? how did that happen in this world?

well, that is it for today. I'm pretty sure my spelling was "spot on". laugh!

by Anonymousreply 40210/12/2012

tschmitz, dude, you are getting tedious. We like to gossip about Tom being gay. Got that?

by Anonymousreply 40310/12/2012

tschmitz you need to drop this obsession with the fact that "anonymous" is used commonly on this board-- especially because it is far from unique to this board.

One of the reasons some may think you are a Scientologist or one of Cruise's "people" is that they routinely attempt to delegitimize what people are saying by attacking posters not just what posters are saying.

Since people commonly use pseudonyms on boards anyway it doesn't matter whether they call themselves anon or Joblo.

While some people are wildly speculative, invent stories or believe unsubstantiated stories, the reason some of us believe Tom is in the closet is more concrete. Industry insiders have said he was from the beginning. People with no vested interest in it- neither gay nor gay-hating nor gay-obsessed.

I'm not sure why you have such a deep investment in this or what you're even doing here, since this is a gay gossip board and you hate gossip.

by Anonymousreply 40410/12/2012

What R404 said. Also, the fact that this schmitz person is only showing up on this one thread. I have not seen him visit any other gossip thread. Why the focus on this particular thread? Bizarre to say the least but his terrible grammar, etc. are textbook clam. It's the same sentence structure that I saw during the Tom/Katie split when the scibots were crawling all over every gossip site.

by Anonymousreply 40510/12/2012

I never thought he was gay until I realized he had Nicole and Katie under contract...obviously they were willingly participating in his bearding process and it was all arranged by the church.

by Anonymousreply 40610/12/2012

Definitely a clam. I missed the part about not forming an opinion on a person or THING and about him having read some of the critics books.

The other flag is repeatedly saying no one knows anything about the subject. There are a ton of credible, not to mention damaged ex members who had to escape.

Just because people haven't been in an abusing mafia like cult doesn't mean they need to try. To imply otherwise is the reasoning of a simpleton. Especially when so many critics are far more rational than the members.

Next we'll hear how it's just plain bigotry despite all the evidence that it's not. Consider how many people are involved in Unitarianism and metaphysical studies that aren't traditional at all.

There's not the condemnation of those groups because there aren't the stories of wide spread abuse. The fact that these clambots can't see that for themselves or think we can't makes them come across even worse and further makes a case against the cult.

The thing that seals the deal is that even after you make these points they continue posting like oblivious machines.

by Anonymousreply 40710/12/2012

R406 I'm not sure about Katie who cult insiders said was one of the interviewed women, but by all accounts Nicole was a real relationship in every sense.

In fact escaped members who lived with the couple while Miscavige waited to woo Tom back confirmed that. Even Miscavige noted Tom was a great CoS soldier because he gave up love (Nicole) for the cult. Tom was just very marginally in the cult through most of his marriage to Nicole. He was out for about 10 years. If anything I think Tom may be bi, with a stronger attraction to men which he tries to fight.

by Anonymousreply 40810/12/2012

Zzzzz.....@R409.

by Anonymousreply 41010/12/2012

tschmitz you have already been told there is no public photographic evidence. And you are still posting. You have also been told there rarely is. I even pointed out that Kristen was only recently caught after three years and Anderson who recently came out never had photographic evidence leeked either. Neither has Travolta (okay that one kissing picture).

And you still can't connect the dots as to why there are no pics of Tom. Even though the same id true of the 'out" people who were in hiding for decades.

All you need to say is "Well as long as nobody has photographic evidence of it, I don't believe it". Then leave since you hate gossip anyway.

by Anonymousreply 41110/12/2012

No schmit, Katie was obviously bought and paid for...the church approved her for Tom. Straight men actually go out and seek their own women, they don't want someone else to do the picking...they like to do it themselves. Now if they are poor, ugly, inept...they may ask someone else for a little help but Tom is nothing like that.

Sometimes you just need to use a little common sense, when you do...the truth is revealed.

by Anonymousreply 41210/12/2012

[quote]when 9 out of 10 times it is malicious and mean spirited?

Oh, schmitty, the reason people like to snark on Tom is because he's a phoney. Nothing real about him and incapable of genuine emotion. He mimics the behavior of others around him, which has been noted by several people who have worked with him. When you are a megalomaniac and surrounded by asslickers 24/7 and told you are the messiah of the Co$ then, of course, people are going to snark on you.

Don't forget his threats of lawsuits for any slight, real or imagined. What's that saying "methinks you doth protest too much"?

by Anonymousreply 41310/12/2012

tschmitz R409 Still the classic bad spelling and grammar. Do you not understand the bad PR you and your under-educated fellows create for Scientology? The long-winded answers are just sad, and the same stuff is posted on every board. You're not going to "win" here, honey, because your lack of an education shows up in every sentence. Not a good advertisement for your "religion."

Do you understand that Scientology is now a national joke?

FYI - I saw Tom more than once at REVOLVER on Santa Monica in the late 70's, early 80's. Straight guys didn't/don't go there. Period.

by Anonymousreply 41410/12/2012

[quote]So i think my last comment on this topic is...

Whenever your read that phrase, beware. Some crazed fangirl actually took over (and ruined) the One Direction threads...forever claiming that she'd given her last word on the Harry/Louis relationship. Immediately followed by forty more posts within a day, each of no less than 500 words each.

Given all the rumors over the years of TC liking to be dominated--especially spanked and paddled--this struck me as pretty funny:

by Anonymousreply 41510/12/2012

can't believe this but you "anonymous" posters have galled me into making more comments in defense of myself.

I just find it hard to believe that ANY dissenting opinion here is deemed incredibly wrong and something to be attacked upon by nearly everyone? why is that?

once again i get the "atrocious spelling and grammar" bit. Maybe it's you who doesn't know how to spell. give me some of my spelling errors why don't you? I mean there must be a plethora of them for one of you "anonymous" named posters to be obsessed about that. I mean it is spelling! i mean you know it's spelling! super important! laugh!

2) for the other "anonymous" named poster: you posted that i've been told already that there is no physical proof and no photos? You need to backtrack a few pages back on this topic and about the whole "fayette county house" story. that anonymous poster said there was proof, there was photos! Of course, like i wrote earlier when i requested more details and info and OMG dared to question the validity of such a story, i've yet to receive a reply or answers to my questions.

3)Once again is this the 3rd or 4th time, i have to say this "i'm not a scientologist"! laugh! what more do i need to type to prove that to you? if I was, and i supported cruise 110 % unblinkingly wouldn't i be proud of my religion and state it! did you 'anonymous" poster not read my earlier posting about how i was raised and what i now believe in? So obviously my being the only differing opinion it seems on this topic, i get the derogatory "fangurl, clam,scibot slurs. Is that the argument? that's the defense for daring to question? Notice how i have yet to resort to name calling?

4) if he didn't sue, then others would say "it must be true then"! the guy can't win, and he doesn't sue EVERYONE, like i mentioned in an earlier post, he just sues the media publications because obviously they reach a larger audience.

5)interesting, everything i've ever heard or read from EVERYONE on EVERY movie set he has been on is that he is universally adored and respected. Guess everyone is lying. And the reality is "he's a phoney and he mimics the behavior of others around him"?

6)and yes, i understand scientology is a national joke! Newsflash, in a earlier post i stated myself that i thought it was a cult and wrong (after doing research).

which anonymous poster of so many wrote that he saw cruise coming out of the revolver gay night club on santa monica more than once in the late 70's/early 80's. make sure you have your dates correct. because in 1980 cruise was 18 and just graduated from high school and was in new york/new jersey at the time, so that throws out the late 70's timeline. His first film Endless Love was filmed on location on the east coast in 1981 when he was 19, as was TAPS, the earliest he would have been in hollywood would have been for "studio filming" of the movies risky business, all the right moves and the outsiders roughly 1983 and that is if they had to do filming at all for these films, since they were shot on location far from california! So not quite sure how cruise would have been seen at the revolver during the time periods posted?

The whole katie thing? i agree that no religion or anyone should be deciding other than the man himself a woman for him? Of course i also question why the leader of his "religion" would be his best friend? that would be like the pope being my best friend and hanging out with me? laugh! Wouldn't any religious leader actually frown on that and now allow it? Being best friends above all other parisioners and followers? Who knows? Perhaps in Cruise mind he might think that is a good thing? Maybe he thinks " See how great he is, he's not one of those religious leaders who thinks he is above everyone! he's down to earth and what not?"

I did think i read somewhere that she (holmes) auditioned for mission impossible 3 ( yes a real audition) and while she didn't get the part, he liked her and was attracted to her and that's how their romance started from this first meeting. have a great night!

by Anonymousreply 41610/12/2012

[Maybe he thinks " See how great he is, he's not one of those religious leaders who thinks he is above everyone! he's down to earth and what not?"] I think your right, tschmitz, David Miscavige sounds like the greatist down to earth guy in the WORLD! I know your not a scientologist, but from you're writing, i can tell how much you see that is the TRUTH!!!

Pleese post some more, tschmitz! You're argluments are so auwsome!!! Finally someone is posting FACTS!

Tom Cruise is a auwsome actor and STREIGHT!!!

by Anonymousreply 41710/12/2012

R417 For the last time, it is perfectly down to earth for grown men who are streight, especially if u r streight in the EXtream and so down to earth u sometimes find urself ankle deep in dirt, to ask chirch leaders to help u find a bride. It is so earthy that Sun Myung Moon insisted on it! As well as that, for sane people to right long posts about how no one told them there was no photos of Tom and boys made public and if that was his criteria he might as well go.

These long posts are in no way to disrupt the board by typing the same thing over and over but to set streight wayward souls of there erronious thoughts on the alleged blasphemes of streighht, down to earth famus people.

by Anonymousreply 41810/13/2012

One last thing. It is in no way lacking in down to earthess to pursue intelligent provoking discussion on gossip boards (and to hang around) since these are the places one would expect such discorce.

Furthermoore it's fine to expect publicly revealed photo evidence even after one has been told none exists (and rarely does) as well as ignore when OTHER posters disagree amongst themselves (i.e. Nicole was only a beard versus Nicole in many respects was a real relationship) so that a relentless-hyper-corrective poster can make themselves a lone voice fighting the ignorant masses.

Last but not least coming back even after bidding adieu in no way makes them a fanbot, troll or obsessive in any way.

by Anonymousreply 42010/13/2012

To Post #358 answers:

1) Someone answered that one 2) Yes, gay couple from Atlanta. A very large gay community, btw. Mr. Cruise has spent a lot of time in Atlanta, for good reason. 3) Small dinner parties, very private. And a few photos on a boat 4) See #3 5) They are not sexual in nature, but pics of him with another guy, like you would see any couple acting 6) Yes, they are in the business. 7) Yes, I have seen the photos.

by Anonymousreply 42110/14/2012

R421 It's pointless. This one will discredit everything (including you for being mysteriously more privileged than most people having actually viewed the pics- or saying you did) even if you describe them in detail.

EVEN THO it's been pointed out that Anderson never had any pics made public either but tons of people knew he was gay before he came out. It doesn't mean there were no pictures of him taken for decades before that. An inquiring poster has to use their imagination and connect some dots. If they don't (or won't) it will be an endless cycle.

And even if someone published, this type of poster would cry photoshop!

No amount of detail will ever be enough detail so why bother?

by Anonymousreply 42310/14/2012

He's on his way out girls!

by Anonymousreply 42410/14/2012

Dear tschmitz,

This link might help you with more information:

by Anonymousreply 42510/14/2012

[quote]can't believe this but you "anonymous" posters have galled me into making more comments in defense of myself.

Yet you keep showing up.

by Anonymousreply 42610/14/2012

[quote]i mean you know it's spelling! super important! laugh!

It is important. It shows a grasp of elemental education. Everyone makes a typo or grammatical mistake once in a while but someone who consistently ignores good spelling, grammar and punctuation is either lazy or poorly educated and makes their written debate easy to ignore and makes the writer himself sound ignorant and immature. "laugh!".

by Anonymousreply 42710/15/2012

HI everyone! I never said that i was discrediting (or want to for that matter) this fayette county story. I just want more thorough details to my last questions and comments. Which i think would be warranted in such a MAJOR proclamation of this actor's "secret" life.

I greatly greatly appreciate the information given thus far. My probing more detailed questioning i would think would be what MOST so called "normal everyday" people would want before they make up their minds totally on this. I mean we are talking about a "rumor" that has been going on for decades now being proclaimed as actual fact. So a more then a bit "vague" answers i think would suffice.

THANKS and THANKS AGAIN "anonymous" poster for what you have divulged so far.

As far as posting a photo and me thinking it was photoshopped? i'm pretty sure that unless it was done by a world expert most can spot a photoshopped photo from a mile away.

For the other "anonymous" poster i appreciate the links you posted, although they were on scientology which i don't need to know anymore about.

and for the other "anonymous" poster: yes,i keep on showing up here. You are right. I guess i'm just trying to understand some of you and yes, sometimes having to defend myself. That's all. I wish everyone well!

by Anonymousreply 42810/15/2012

Well i was about to leave this forum until i saw the last posting.

I guess anonymous poster that you and I differ on how important spelling is and in relation to someone's intelligence.

I've been to plenty of forums and belong to plenty of internet sites and see bad spelling all the time and it doesn't bother me. I guess i'm more forgiving in that regard.

I think it's more important WHAT the person is trying to say instead of how they are saying it.

I mean as long as for example they are not typing the word example like eaxple then i'm fine with it.

I would be interested in you possibly taking the time to actually post some of my misspelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes that are so glaring and so annoying to you that you seemingly focus exclusively on this matter. I've asked before but never received a reply.

I admit to run on sentences and perhaps my over use of the punctuation marks in regards to using them for "anonymous" posters. I do this solely to try to differentiate and to make sure that one of you anonymous posters know that i'm trying to reach and address you with my postings, comments and opinions.

Have a great day!

by Anonymousreply 42910/15/2012

It's buried in a vault in the Scientology Center. But word still gets out my friend.

The word may or may not be true. But there is as little reason to doubt it as there is to give it complete confidence.

by Anonymousreply 43010/15/2012

The problem schmmity is that your bad spelling and grammar make reading your posts difficult and some of what you mean to convey is undecipherable. No one needs to post your glaring misspellings and grammatical mistakes because they are prominent in your posts and if you can't reread your posts and see that you are truly uneducated.

If you cannot read some of the other posts mocking your style by imitating it then you are truly lost.

by Anonymousreply 43110/15/2012

Of course I have read the mocking postings about my supposed bad spelling, grammar and punctuation.

I chose not to lower myself to that level. Besides I do read my postings and never have I posted a message that was anywhere near the horrible on purpose spelling that you or another one of the anonymous posters keep on posting.

I can't think of any misspelling myself. So please enlighten me. Post some examples please.

I'm curious as whether you have ever raised the question within yourself that perhaps it is you that can't spell?

Like I said to me it's more important what the person is saying as opposed to how they are saying.

Have a good one!

by Anonymousreply 43210/15/2012

Nice try, schmitty, but I can spell very well. Now you have a nice day and tell Tammy hello from us and to please leave that crazy cult and come out of the closet. His life will be much happier and more fulfilling.

BTW, ask him where Shelly Miscavige is for us.

by Anonymousreply 43310/15/2012

tschmitz is a Scientology drone.

Don't engage.

by Anonymousreply 43410/15/2012

What r405 said.

by Anonymousreply 43510/15/2012

Oh, and what r407 said too.

The good thing about all this is how desperate the clams have become. It's nice to witness that.

Their golden boy is beyond irreparably damaged in the court of public opinion. There's nothing they can do.

It will be nice to see their desperation increase once their tax exempt status is revoked.

by Anonymousreply 43610/15/2012

"but by all accounts Nicole was a real relationship in every sense"

Bullshit.

TC has never been interested in a woman, and he never will be. And I'm not even saying he's gay.

He had zero chemistry with NC, and their "marriage" was just as fake as his "marriage" with KH.

He's a liar in every sense, that's what he is.

by Anonymousreply 43710/15/2012

R364 actually Barresi did find proof see link.

by Anonymousreply 43810/21/2012

There's absolutely no proof to indicate that he could be straight. After all these years, there would be some evidence. It does not exist.

by Anonymousreply 43910/21/2012

in a filing cabinet in the headquarters of the church of Scientology

by Anonymousreply 44010/22/2012

i've had him

by Anonymousreply 44110/22/2012

They have now pissed her off! Tammy is SUING those bitches at Life & Style! Nothing worse than a Momma scorned...

by Anonymousreply 44210/24/2012

He can't seem to come up with any evidence to show that he could be straight.

by Anonymousreply 44310/24/2012

Most straight actors don't have their church, pick out their bride.

He's sueing In Touch and InStyle....$50 million.

They said Tom Cruise had abandoned Suri.

Could it be true?

by Anonymousreply 44410/25/2012

It is odd R444. I haven't seen any really recent pics of him and Suri together since that weekend in NY where he raced through the streets to get on a helicopter making a spectacle of both of them. I always wondered if Katie put the brakes on those kinds of getaways after that scene.

by Anonymousreply 44510/25/2012

I don't believe she is his child, if he thought she was, Tom would move heaven and earth to get her from Katie.

On the other hand, I believe his oldest children are actually his children. The boy looks just like him.

by Anonymousreply 44610/26/2012

I don't think he is really gay. Maybe just a walk on the wild side when he got on his belly and spread his ass cheeks for me.

by Anonymousreply 44710/26/2012

Another week moves toward a close and there's still no concrete proof that he could be straight.

by Anonymousreply 44810/26/2012

Mimi Rogers would not say a thing like that. It's entheta.

by Anonymousreply 44911/28/2012

Rumors like this don't just "happen". It's not a random thing. Everyone in the industry probably knows which is why it's the worst kept secret in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 45011/28/2012

Creepy little man.

by Anonymousreply 45111/28/2012

Gosh, haven't you ever heard of a "beard"? That is where men marry women to disguise the fact that they are gay. Movies stars, especially leading men, must present a strong, masculine mask on and off camera, especially 10, 15 20, 30 years ago. Often studios would pair up lesser stars or up and comers with powerful male stars as a business deal. It usually helps her career, and his as well. As far as evidence, there are innumerable rumors, and men have come forward claiming that they have had sex with Tom Cruise. That is a form of evidence, but what I really think you mean is there hard evidence that would stand up in a court of law. Or possibly an admission from Tom Cruise himself. That is unlikely to ever happen. The tone of your question and interest in Tom Cruise suggests that you are a fan and that you hate the idea that he might be gay. The reason I say this is because I know that you know what a "beard" is and that many gay men have married women and had children. Have you heard of Oscar Wilde?

by Anonymousreply 45212/23/2012

R446 is legally blind. Isabelle looks more like Tom than Conor does. A lot more like him. Tommy Davis is Suri's bio dad; they're identical.

by Anonymousreply 45312/23/2012

Keanu had him? Why would he want him? Geffen's cast offs...is their a club?

by Anonymousreply 45412/23/2012

Has anyone read the interview with Bronson Pinchot where he talks about Tommy Cruise? He also made some interesting comments about Denzel Washington as well. I can't link it since I'm not a paid member. Just search Bronson Pinchot and the A.V. Club and you'll find it.

by Anonymousreply 45502/22/2013

I do think Tammy is gay. He may not be as messy as Travolta, but he has always been suppressed, secretive, and possibly blackmailed by CO$. Nicole Kidman was his beard for 10 years and now she is a Keith Urban's beard. Tom will trot out a new beard by April, when Oblivion drops.

by Anonymousreply 45602/22/2013

Tom Cruise - Where's the Evidence that This Guy is Straight?

There is no real evidence.

by Anonymousreply 45702/23/2013

Forget the kids and the marriges. He doesn't need evidence that he's straight. He's not accused of being straight. He's accused of being gay. Everyone seems to want to out him but yet there's still no proof. I don't know if he's gay or not but I wouldn't be hurt if he wasn't. Who wants him?

by Anonymousreply 45802/23/2013

Please explain R458, how saying someone is gay is an accusation. You sound as if you think being gay turns someone into a criminal. Is that how you feel, freeper?

by Anonymousreply 45902/23/2013

those kids are adopted, they are not his bio kids. so what if he is gay? live and let live...

by Anonymousreply 46002/23/2013

No R459, My post was in response to "prove he's straight". I was just saying he's not accused of being straight. He's only accused of being gay. So far no evidence of it. I personally don't wish him to be gay. He seems too wound up and strange.

by Anonymousreply 46102/23/2013

About Rebecca DeMorney, is she a lesbian?

by Anonymousreply 46202/23/2013

DeMorNAY, you mean? No, she's not a lesbian. She is VERY hot, though. That's the one thing about this Tom Cruise Is Gay mythos that makes it hard to believe. If he's so gay, then how is it that he lived with and dated that hottie for years, nevermind that he went on to marry three women and procreate with one of them? I know men probably do it all the time, but honestly, there's not that much "bearding" in the world.

by Anonymousreply 46302/23/2013

You're still turning being gay into an offence with your use of "accused." You seem to have a real problem with assuming that someone could be gay or bi until there is proof that he's straight. You obviously think that gay is something that's not natural.

Where is there concrete proof that he's straight? It doesn't exist. There are no photos. There is no video. There is no DNA testing to show he fathered any children through sex with a female. We know his first wife claimed he was like a monk.

Now, provide facts or photos to prove, without a doubt, that Cruise could be straight R461.

by Anonymousreply 46402/23/2013

I guess it must be happy hour at the Scientology compound.

by Anonymousreply 46502/23/2013

Look R464, You sound like a nut. Think what you want. I don't care enough to argue with you.

by Anonymousreply 46702/23/2013

Okay, procreation aside (and honestly, I think the kid's his), I still can't see someone being with all those women--living with them, marrying them, etc., just to stay in the closet. He'd be better off doing a Clooney and just "lovin' 'em and leavin' 'em".

by Anonymousreply 46802/23/2013

Still there's no concrete proof that this ex-seminarian could be straight. Since when has any straight person wanted to be a priest?

by Anonymousreply 46902/26/2013

Sorry but I really think Rebecca Demornay is a lesbian. She was married to Bruce Weber for awhile and I'm pretty sure he's gay.

by Anonymousreply 47002/26/2013

Wow...a string of relationships with women that never worked out....Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm"

by Anonymousreply 47103/18/2013

It's anecdotal. The fact there's nothing solid is neither here nor there. It doesn't prove he is and it doesn't prove he isn't.

by Anonymousreply 47203/18/2013

[quote] Re: Tom Cruise - Where's the Evidence that This Guy is Gay?

He sucked my dick last night, then let me pound his ass with my big black cock

by Anonymousreply 47303/18/2013

I Let Him Blow Me, Believe Me He's Gay!

by Anonymousreply 47403/19/2013

When it comes to actors, priests, male florists, and male hairdressers, it must be assumed that they're gay. If anyone thinks they're straight, there needs to be concrete proof.

by Anonymousreply 47503/19/2013

I know Tom personally. He is as straight as you or me. The man loves the puddy-tat. Scouts honor!

I would never B.S. anybody about the issue of sexuality. Take me word for it, he ain't gay. he's a real man's man.

by Anonymousreply 47603/20/2013

I don't think he's gay so much as asexual. He seems like the type who's so obsessed with himself, and furthering his own career, that he'd be unable to establish a deep connection with anyone (male or female) other than himself.

I do, however, think he had sex with male producers early in his career to get ahead.

by Anonymousreply 47703/20/2013

Tom Cruise [click thru for more details] homosexual, not a real marriage, HIV or AID's, sex addict, started out as a male prostitute for Merv Griffith (that's the reason he became famous)

by Anonymousreply 47803/21/2013

Dear Webbie,

I travel all over Europe and have access to literally hundreds of IP addresses.

Trying to ban or block me will only make it worse.

I am harmless.

Get over yourself.

by Anonymousreply 47903/21/2013

Merv Griffin even had a ’70s gay male porn star by the name of Cal Culver, who died of AIDS in 1987, feed his sexual appetite. “After sleeping with Merv, Cal became his ‘pimp,’ supplying him with a virtual male harem of aspiring actors, models and porn stars” Although not in the book it has long been rumored Griffin has had affairs with Keanu Reeves and Tom Cruise when the actors were launching their careers.

by Anonymousreply 48003/21/2013

[quote]My post was in response to "prove he's straight".

And there's really no need to respond since there is no proof that he's straight.

by Anonymousreply 48103/23/2013

I'm not a fan of him so i'm not partial. I don't believe he is gay. He doesn't ping to me. He was dating older women at the beginning of his career and usually men who date older women at a younger age are not gay.

by Anonymousreply 48204/23/2013

*fan of his

It seems more correct, dunno...

by Anonymousreply 48304/23/2013

really you grown as nothing else to talk about weirdos so the fuck what if tom cruise is gay what the fuck are you gonna achieve by knowing it or him saying it NOTHING you will then run off and try to figure out somebody else s life look in the mirror at your own where are you gonna spend eternity when god ask you what did you do with the time he allotted you what are you gonna say oh i helped out tom cruise da da da i don't know god what was i sapose to do with it wow really grown as idiots no wounder y the satanic Illuminati has taking over because you mf don't give a fuck

by Anonymousreply 48405/21/2013

hey

by Anonymousreply 48506/23/2013

I am a gay man, I don't Know if he is gay or not. I always hear comments about him being gay. Now, Marriage to 3 women and a child that does not proof he is straight either. He can still be gay or Bisexual. I slept with 100 of married guys here in England some from USA and some from Canada and Brazil. They told me they had a wife and kids and I asked them why would they fake a life with a woman. ON their replier to me, Was, because Family and friends, I grew up on the straight environment. I told them that is not correct, You are missing happiness from your life and Anybody is entitle to happiness and have their sexual life activated. The Gender is not important. You make a selection and not the person next to you or your cousin brother or father. They replied to me saying I wish I was that brave. Again coming back to the Tom cruise issue, I don't know if he one of this type or not but just because he was married three times does not proof he is straight, that is not just him. Any men out there with girlfriends could be gay. There are some history from rent boys stating went out with Tom and that history with a Porn actor too. I can't say there were lying or telling the truth. The same thing is when Eminem said he slept with Mariah, She denies but we don't know who is lying. When Guys are very good looking like Tom the gay society goes crazy after him. once they realised they could not fish him to bed, Some gay guys will saying, yep he is a faggot too. LOL. Now you guys make your mind about what I said.

by Anonymousreply 48606/23/2013

Here's the deal. I KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE, but I can't say where I got my information. Tom Cruise is gay. Penelope Cruz is a beard, paid to date Hollywood actors. Katie Holmes was already pregnant with another actor's baby, Chris something. She was propositioned by Tim's "men," to marry Tom and pretend the baby was his. What did she have to lose?? This is why Suri looks older than they say. Tom was married to Nicoke Kidman for years, and no children. They went so far as to adopt two kids! Their marriage ends, and bam, Nicole is pregnant with new hubby, Keith Urban. She also tried to backtrack on her claims that Tom is gay, because she received so much backlash from Hollywood. Btw, Mathew Mcconaughey (spelling??) Is gay too. Penelope Cruz was paid to date him. Now his wife, a beautiful foreigner, is being paid too. Those girls know how to work it.

by Anonymousreply 48707/08/2013

Tom is gay, I think, but celibate. Messed up guy. Probably hasn't had sex for decades.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's a virgin, actually!

But yeah, I think he's gay even if he's not shagging anyone.

Co$ has probably fucked him up so much he probably wouldn't know how to, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 48807/08/2013

I seriously doubt he is Suri's biological father. He was a boy for Merv Griffin early on and Griffin pushed him to be a star. He can't act shit and always was a scary and disturbed nut case. There is no way he would have become the A-lister he is now without the support of some powerful friends in HW. Kidman is still working movie after movie, because she is quiet about what she saw and so she gets jobs from scientology who probably owns half of HW. Kidman, Holmes and Cruz all are fame whores. No half way intelligent normal woman would be with somebody like TC for more than a week.

by Anonymousreply 48907/08/2013

R487 and R489 Thanks for the HW gossip. You seem to be so "in the know" about Hollywood. Please do tell more, not only about Tom Cruise, but also about John Travolta and Kevin Spacey.

by Anonymousreply 49007/08/2013

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by Anonymousreply 49107/08/2013

That'd be Scientology, R491 - fully practiced, it induces psychosis. He can be seen fully practicing it here:

by Anonymousreply 49207/08/2013

I always thought Cruise was the type who experienced latent homosexual attraction like most guys do, and being the control freak with deep insecurity issues as he is, he freaked out over it so much he blew it way out of proportion, which led to his being so susceptible to Scientologist mind control.

If he just accepted a little man sex like most actors do, he'd be halfway normal today.

Actors are natural hermophrodites no matter how masculine they comes across. Acting is a feminine profession. Doesn't mean all actors/artists are gay per se, but they are more fluid and flexible in their sexual identity than your average Joe is. The profession attracts those who are able to assume identities and indulge in masquerade and performance. It also attracts those who are very insecure about themselves and need validation and assumption of identity. Cruise, whose sexual identity was no doubt affected by the prdominantly female environment he grew up in and the ordeal of being a dyslexic teenager who had to work harder at being as "smart" as his peers, is the prototype of that kind of individual.

I never saw him as a gay individual per se, but he definitely has let complex sexual issues that he has let completely obsess him and lead to his destructuring as an overall healthy and mentally sound individual.

by Anonymousreply 49307/08/2013

There's no evidence that he could be straight. No video. No pictures of him having sex with a female.

by Anonymousreply 49407/08/2013

I often believed Katie was already preg, when she married Tom. I think Chris Klein was paid to keep his mouth shut.

by Anonymousreply 49507/08/2013

He was always nuts, a person of very low intelligence combined with an overblown ego. I thought he was already ultra creepy before he joined that cult.

by Anonymousreply 49607/08/2013

Charles at r486, I will once I dismantle and reassemble that colorful tapestry of random words you weaved.

by Anonymousreply 49707/08/2013

r487, we know by your post that your reliable source is your hairdresser.

by Anonymousreply 49807/08/2013

r455, you can link as a non-member.

by Anonymousreply 49907/08/2013

Every time I see Suri I can't help but think her hair seems to be too dark. It's like they're dying it to try and match Tom's so people will think he really is the daddy.

by Anonymousreply 50007/12/2013

[quote]Katie Holmes was already pregnant with another actor's baby

I read that she wore a baby bump for several weeks after Suri was born at home so people would think she was still pregnant. All part of the plan to make TC seem like the daddy.

by Anonymousreply 50107/13/2013

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by Anonymousreply 50207/13/2013

R492, that is so scary. I'd almost say he isn't straight or gay, but some kind of manufactured robot after seeing that.

by Anonymousreply 50307/13/2013

Still no evidence that he's ever had sex with a female.

by Anonymousreply 50407/14/2013

When his career comes to an end, the only thing that will be remembered regarding his movie/TV performances is dancing in his underwear and jumping on Oprah's couch.

by Anonymousreply 50507/14/2013

He also dated heather Locklear after risky bussiness was made

by Anonymousreply 50607/24/2013

Last week I watched the Family Feud, and one of the questions was On a Scale of 1-10 how weird is Tom Cruise?! Lol. The number one answer according to a survey, was 1.

Most of Americans may not think he's gay, but they know there's definitely something off about him.

by Anonymousreply 50707/24/2013

If he doesn't look like a thin middle-aged queen in these pics, I don't know who does.

by Anonymousreply 50809/15/2013

Has anyone ever seen real photographic proof that he's had sex with any female? His first wife said he was like a monk.

by Anonymousreply 50909/15/2013

Gay or not he is weird. Married to Xenu probably.

by Anonymousreply 51009/15/2013

I honestly can't tell if he's gay.

I agree with the weird stuff. Give me a straight guy who says he's flattered by people thinking he's gay, not one who sues over it.

by Anonymousreply 51109/15/2013

I wonder if Cruise was abused by a male in his childhood and if that might account for his obsessive homophobic outbursts on the Risky Business set, his attraction to " gay curing" scientology and his not being able to relax and laugh off the rumours à la Clooney. I don't believe either are gay btw. But Tom seems to have a fear of homosexuality that may be shame based, due to abuse. But who knows.

by Anonymousreply 51211/11/2013

Never ending useless speculation. He is not gay- get over it!- He is just a bit off?!

by Anonymousreply 51311/11/2013

Wishful thinking mostly. Even though he is odd- he is still hot and we all remember those tighty whities in Risky business. A young gays dream date.

by Anonymousreply 51411/11/2013

[quote]He also dated heather Locklear after risky bussiness was made

Not true. She said herself on Chelsea Handler that they "went out" ONCE and that it wasn't even really a date, and she only did it because he had no friends and felt sorry for him. When you hear her tell the story, you can tell even she thought he was weird.

by Anonymousreply 51511/11/2013

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by Anonymousreply 51803/02/2015

Tom Cruise is as straight as Rip Taylor. Throwing confetti is just part of Rip Taylor's act. Jumping on courches is part of Tom Cruise's act.

by Anonymousreply 51903/02/2015

He ate my ass at a party once

by Anonymousreply 52003/02/2015

There were second- and third-hand reports of his sex life with Heather Locklear in the 90s. Other Dataloungers will be able to parse them and separate the spin from the reality better than I can.

by Anonymousreply 52103/02/2015

When a performer breaks into the business through anything gay-oriented, we can always assume they're gay. Remember: at the time, they never realize how famous they'll become.

by Anonymousreply 52203/04/2015

Worked in Hollywood business. Cruise was known to throw parties where he would ask his people to recruit young gay men. He would select one or two from an unseen vantage point and have his folks invite a few upstairs.

Non disclosure agreements were standard.

(Saw s very similar thing firsthand with Mel Gibson and how he chose women companions)

One of our PAs was apparently chosen one night. Really beautiful young man, too. Said no sex happened, but a lot of flirting. Almost as if Cruise wanted someone else to make the first move.

by Anonymousreply 52305/07/2015

When he was young, he paraded around in a tiny speedo, showing off his wares. Straight guys are more modest.

by Anonymousreply 52405/07/2015

According to The National enquirer he is dating Roberta Armani. Lol!, right?

by Anonymousreply 52505/08/2015

Not sure if he's gay. However, I know for a fact that he was "involved" with David Geffen in the early '80s. "Involved" meaning they would hang out together, and have sex, and Geffen produced his break though movie.

by Anonymousreply 52605/08/2015

R524, you reminded of why I fapped like crazy as a teen looking at Tom Cruise. I wish the only thing I knew about him is that he was once hot.

by Anonymousreply 52705/08/2015

He's a damaged gay, he'll die in the closet. We should all just move on.

by Anonymousreply 52805/08/2015

Good friend, back in the day (and come to think of it kinda a Cruise clone) talked about how he was hanging at the old Studio One in Weho. Bouncer comes up and asks him to follow him down the backstairs to the Robertson parking lot. Approaches a limo and there's TC. He gets in and drives up to his house. TC wants an elaborate wrestling scenario, which ensues, followed by extremely mechanical sex, TC on top, friend dismissed and dropped back at the club. Elapsed time, barely an hour.

by Anonymousreply 52905/08/2015

(529) and the only reason I believed this is that, at the time I worked in advertising for the studios and had dealed with Cruise on "Interview With The Vampire"... Total paranoid nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 53005/08/2015

Cruise is probably bisexual but very screwed up. Mimi Rogers little or no sex. Kidman kniwn to be bisexual with a preference for women. Holmes LOL.

by Anonymousreply 53105/08/2015

(529) "dealt". Trying to head off the grammar trolls.

by Anonymousreply 53205/08/2015

LOL at r476 Jeremy Renner

by Anonymousreply 53305/08/2015

Even if he is gay - do we really want him?

He's not exactly a pillar of sanity, mental health or integrity.

I'd prefer he wasn't gay. The straights can have him.

by Anonymousreply 53405/08/2015

R527, I don't know if the pic at R524 is real. It could be Cruise's face photoshopped onto another guy's body.

by Anonymousreply 53505/08/2015
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