Child bride, 13, dies of internal injuries four days after arranged marriage in Yemen\ \

I can't believe this shit is still allowed.

Yemen is so poor. Most of these guys living in very remote villages could not afford to have brides or sex (because of the strict religious codes) if they did not find creative ways to 'purchase' brides from equally poor father's of girls looking to sell them off.

It use to be the tradition that these girls would not be touched until 15 or 16 even though they had been purchased and the marriage had taken place. But now, you get some horny poor brute of 23 who has not had sex his entire life and a thirteen your old available vagina and well, here we are.

I am not against nuking countries like this.

Some Yemenis have tried to increase the legal age for marriage, but they've been overruled by clerics.

Somebody really needs to airlift Yemen a humanitarian shipment of Astroglide.

I wouldn't call a 13 year old a child bride. I'd call a 10 year old a child bride.

There really is a difference between a pre-teen and a teen. In the early part of the twentieth century, 13 year old girls were often married off in America. In the very least, they were often impregnated and gave birth when they were 13 or 14.

The guy who married this girl was a sex maniac who wouldn't take her to a doctor after he raped her. It probably wouldn't have mattered if she was 13 or 15 or 19. He was a brute who forced himself on a frightened bride.

PS - How is a "tear to the genitals" considered internal bleeding? Isn't it external bleeding? The genitals are the outer sex organs. I wouldn't call the cervix and uterus "genitals." I might accept "internal genitalia" but not "genitals." Poor journalism.

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What r6 said.

R6, the AP story said there was extensive tearing around the vagina and rectum.

Shut up, pedo@r6. A 13 year old girl in the early 20th century or in the 19th is a lot different from a 13 year old today and you know it. A 13 year old today is still a child. There were 8 and 10 year olds cooking for their entire families and carrying the household during those times, how many 8 and 10 year olds could do the same today? Very few, if any.

Socialization and times are different.

r6, 13 or 12 yr olds are children. They are pre teen children, but children they are.

R6, you don't know anything about girls or women, so why offer the bullshit?

Big dicks in Yemen.

yet again, religion ruins the world.

Peaceful farmers!

[quote] a 13 year old girl in the early 20th century or in the 19th is a lot different from a 13 year old today

But not very different from a 13 year-old girl in Yemen. Although 13 year-olds in Yemen today may be more like 13 year-olds in the 12th century, since Yemen has not advanced much since then, especially the rural areas.

And I'm a female, BTW. Which is why I KNOW there's a difference between a 10 year old and a 13 year old. I've been both.

And "internal bleeding" is bleeding you can't see. If it was the vagina and rectum, you can see it, so it really isn't "internal bleeding." Which is why the husband is such a shitball. If he'd taken her to a doctor, they would have been able to save her. Doctors routinely sew up vaginal tears after childbirth.

I stand by my assertion that it wasn't about her age, it was about the brutality with which the husband forced himself on her and then ignored her visible bleeding.

Straight men = bane of species.

This article made me sick to my stomach. Heartbreaking and vile.

I wonder how many of those sick fucks who marry and rape little girls think consenting adult gay sex is worthy of execution.

All of them, you say?

Don't turn this into Muslim hate, though. Remember we have lily-white FLDS pedos right here in our very own country who behave the same way.

[quote]If he'd taken her to a doctor

You are an idiot. And you are not woman though I am sure you are a cunt.

Yemeni men are hung and uncut. Somehow this thread makes me moist.

He did take her to a doctor, dumbass at R20.

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According to police notes from the interrogation of the husband, he was upset because he could not consummate their relationship and felt under pressure to prove his manhood.

Assi's mother said she also tried to persuade her daughter to have sex with her husband so as not to shame the family.

Al-Hikmi took his young bride to a nearby medical clinic, asking a doctor there to administer her tranquilizers so she would not resist his advances. The clinic said it refused.

Al-Hikmi then obtained performance enhancing pills, according to the police interrogation, and that night completed the act while she screamed. The next day, he returned to the same medical clinic carrying Assi because she could not walk.

"I told him not to go near her for at least ten days," said Dr. Fathiya Haidar. She said Assi's vaginal canal was ripped.

A forensic report obtained by the AP showed that Assi's injuries were much more extensive, including extensive tearing around the vagina and rectum, suggesting that there might have been additional intercourse after the clinic visit.

R11...13 is NOT "pre" teen. It's teen. ThirTEEN. Get it?

R6 "female" or not, it's strange that you don't consider a 13 year-old as a child.

The world would be a different place if adult women were able to tear apart young boy's genitals during sex, leading to the boy's deaths and adult women would somehow find this "hot".

Not to gross you all out but it's not at all unusual for grown women to get serious internal damage from rough or forced sex, and in a child or teenage girl whose reproductive organs aren't fully developed it can be very serious as with this girl. Also bear in mind that while a well fed American girl might be sexually mature at thirteen or fourteen, a girl who hasn't had as good nutrition or living conditions might not be sexually mature until she's 18 or 19.

[quote]There really is a difference between a pre-teen and a teen. In the early part of the twentieth century, 13 year old girls were often married off in America. In the very least, they were often impregnated and gave birth when they were 13 or 14.

Maybe in the backwoods, but not in average society. Women and men didn't marry til they were a lot older.

I am disturbed that there is an argument on this site about whether it's ok for a grown man to have sex with a 13 year old CHILD. Disgusting.

And I am disturbed that it's not the rape - rape that is so violent that it leads to fatal injuries - that is considered disturbing here, but rather the age difference between the rapist and his victim.

[quote]Don't turn this into Muslim hate, though. Remember we have lily-white FLDS pedos right here in our very own country who behave the same way

True but they are considered CRIMINALS in every civilized society, not self entitled turds with who have the blessing of the religious (and state)authorities, to do whatever they want with a person's life.

"True but they are considered CRIMINALS in every civilized society, not self entitled turds with who have the blessing of the religious (and state)authorities, to do whatever they want with a person's life."

Unless they are in the catholic church, of course.

if these women would let go of this insane obsession they have with "creating families" none of this would be happening.

Her blood is on her gender.

[quote]You are an idiot. And you are not woman though I am sure you are a cunt.

So true.

r32 you idiot! Nobosy asks this girls if they want a family, if they want kids, if they want sex. Nobody asked their mothers either or their grandmothers. They have absolutely no power or freedom to decide anything about their lives.

According to the article, her vaginal canal was ripped. The vagina is internal, for the fucktards on this thread.

The origins of pedophilia, child abuse, sexism and hatred towards women is right here on this thread.

She's not a child. 13-year-old girls were sold, married, and pregnant by older men for centuries. Give me a break.

Absolutely true, r25.

Note to idiots on this thread: she was a 13 year old girl AKA A CHILD!

[quote]Al-Hikmi then obtained performance enhancing pills, according to the police interrogation, and that night completed the act while she screamed.

There you go: some idiot gave this creep Viagra. He probably raped her for an extended length of time.

If 13 is considered a child, then why do we have the word adolescent? Adolescence is the stage AFTER childhood and BEFORE adulthood. It is usually defined as starting with the onset of puberty.

I am not advocating that the victim was an adult, but she was not a child. She was an adolescent.

For those stating that she was a child, when does childhood end for you? 18? You really believe that 17 year olds are children? If a 17 year old murdered your family, would you say, "oh well, he was just a child."

Why did he need Viagra??

R42, go back and read R22.

There are two general separations of the life span, R41; childhood and adulthood. Childhood is considered from birth to age 18. There are several stages within the category of childhood, but it is still considered *childhood*. Whether you agree with it or not.

[quote]Whether you agree with it or not.

!MARYFRAU! Un-clench the pearls! And your no doubt well manicured tiny hands.

Thirteen? Hell down South here, she's almost an old maid!

um, Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cu lllllllllllll eeeeeeeeee, R44, whether people "agree with it" has EVERYTHING to do with the idea "it is considered"...

you cannot be intellectually honest and construct your sentence in the passive voice, without a subject so that it obfuscates the authority of precisely who is doing the "considering" then tell someone who aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cuuuuuuuu lllllllllyyyyyyyyyy IS considering the situation their opinion is invalid.

Nice Try: MASSIVE FAIL.

yeah, down south and in the immigrant ghettos of NY City, hon.

Don't forget all the lyberians and "teenage mothers" up there in yankee land.

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legal terms are adult and minor

minor usually is under the age of 15 for just about anything.

>>>PS - How is a "tear to the genitals" considered internal bleeding? Isn't it external bleeding? The genitals are the outer sex organs. I wouldn't call the cervix and uterus "genitals." I might accept "internal genitalia" but not "genitals." Poor journalism.

you fucking idiot. The uterus was probably punctured or ruptured and that causes internal bleeding. He tore her genitals and also ruptured her uterus

why dont you just call it her pussy?

why do you have to keep using all these confusing terms only a biologist knows or even wants to try and figure out.

This is disgusting. No way should this man have been allowed to have sex with her.

He should be executed.

For those of you who can't imagine how she was damaged, I have two words for you to ponder: Abner Louima.

"I told him not to go near her for at least ten days," said Dr. Fathiya Haidar. She said Assi's vaginal canal was ripped.

ie, don't rape her again until the swelling goes down. Just wow.

[italic]Note to idiots on this thread: she was a 13 year old girl AKA A CHILD![/italic]

Not a child. A teenager, idiot.

I was definitely still a child when I was 13 since I did not begin to develop sexually until the next year. Some of my friends were fully developed at 13.

It seems to me the prohibitions against having sex with 13 year olds take these differences into consideration.

Still a child, idiot at R55.

52 = violent lesbo fraufish, who likely prides her liberal opposition to the death penalty for American criminals and belittles Texas for its high execution rate.

but when it touches her political agenda, even facelessly half the world away ...well, fuck that

How do we execute mhb?

Mhb, no male who refers to himself as a female need attempt to engage me in any intellectual, physiological, or psychological conversation.

Do we have an understanding?

I never have referred to myself as a female, fishfrau at R60.

That is your inference and your nominal sexism.

if child is not suitable to you in describing a 13 year old, then minor. He killed a minor because he needed to cum. A 13 year old minor had to die because he needed to cum. I mean, what's a life when a dick needs to skeet. That's the most important thing for humanity, the squirting dick. No pre teen is safe from the needs of a cum full nut sack.

R22

Your additional explaination of what happened is so horrifying. I don't care is she was a child, teen or adult. The fact that he brought her to a clinic hysterical because she was so frightened to have sex makes me cry.

The fact that he asked the doctor to give him drugs to essentially knock her out for sex is repulsive. The doctor refused.

I can not imagine the hell that poor girl went through.

Uh, "Miss" Helen Bedd? Is that a title given to a man with a penis? Just curious.

And BTW -- just because some of you queens have the fantasy of being fucked to death, doesn't mean it's pleasant when it actually happens.

I guess you have no idea what nominal (of the name) sexism is, do you, R64? Now, can you please set your vitriolic ranting aside and lets put a moratorium on this thread in memory of Dixie Carter.

There's always the perv that no matter how disturbing the story is the most important thing to remember is that "13 isn't the same as 10". Yes, that's the first thing I thought of when I read this story and saw the picture of the other 12 and 13 year old girls that went through this. Something is wrong with those who think like that, and they'd probably partake if they could get away with it.

[quote]Why did he need Viagra??

Because [quote]The fact that he asked the doctor to give him drugs to essentially knock her out for sex is repulsive. The doctor refused.

Where did he get the Viagra? From the same clinic? That's what I want to know.

Thank heaven!

For little girls!

At least he followed the doctor's orders and didn't have vaginal intercourse with his child-bride. Her rectum substituted.

is there no shame here. We have just learned of Dixie Carter's demise.

It sounds like he has a big pinga and had to stuff it into her. In my experience with big cocks and horny men, I just lay there while they stuff it in. Once my hole can accommodate the length and girth, I begin to thrust back into the penis to let him know that he can do his business any way he likes. Sounds like this bitch was just uptight.

Actually, if a grown man has violent enough vaginal sex with a physically immature girl it can tear a big ol' hole in everything down there. No, I'm not some kind of pervert, I read a story about some country where there's a folk belief that having sex with a virgin can cure AIDS ... some very young girls get raped and the physical damage can be beyond repair.

mhb, What's a lyberian???

he should be castrated. but no; he'll just be given another 13 yr old to kill.

R71 You are a disgusting queen. Your parents should have put you to sleep.

Anyone who jokes about this is disturbed.

You see things with Western eyes. In the Muslim world, 13 is not too young to be a wife. Prophet Muhammad married a 6 year-old girl (he was in his 50s) and had sex with her whan she was 9. Prophet Muhammad is The Perfect Model to emulate for any Muslim. That's why child brides are not forbidden. Better, they are recommended in strict muslim communities: somehow it cures the girls from having impure thoughts later in life.

There's also female circumcision, which is the best cure for female sexuality.

Clit off, no desire.

Allah Knows Best.

There are thousands of child brides in Muslim countries. This one was lucky to escape the misery by dying.

Koran says: "Your wives are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like." - Sura 2, Aya 22

I bought myself a new unplowed field, while I knew nothing about farming. Hey, a man can make mistakes! Practice makes perfect...

They need to anally rape him using a horse-sized dildo while he screams, and leave him to bleed out in the dirt. Scumbag.

I continue to have no hope for humanity.

It's like legalized pedophilia.

It's not like legalized pedophilia. It's just exactly that. Legalized child rape.

Why punish him? He has done nothing wrong by his cultural standards. His culture allows mariage with children.

Not his fault if the girl bled. Younger brides have survived.

She was a slut. Allah punished her!

[quote]Why punish him? He has done nothing wrong by his cultural standards. His culture allows mariage with children.

His "cultural standards" do not endorse drugging his wife against her will, or raping his wife to death, no matter what her age.

Troll harder, troll.

Yemen are in the process of deciding whether to legislative laws on this issue - hopefully this case will tip the balance and women will start rallying again.

*legislate

AND what you all need to realize is shit like this has gone on for CENTURIES in these third world toilet bowl countries, and will continue long after we are all dead. What are you gonna do? go in there and start a war and force your beliefs on someone else? Only time and education will change things like this.

I want to hear from the guys who think straight men are all super-hot.

In light of this horrible event, and R77's comments, maybe all you haters will finally understand why I said this:

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity"

I am not outraged by any of this. Its not my place to judge other cultures by American standards.

Uh, R95, better make sure YOU don't visit Yemen. They judge gay men by their own standards as well.

Just to comment on how women used to start much earlier with intercourse in the Western World too, I haven't seen it mentioned that people also didn't live anywhere near as long back then. Sometimes the two facts are related.

Jesus Christ. You people are monstrous.

Yep R97. Finally, someone with a little perspective on history. Many young women (and their babies) died in childbirth.

This story and this thread is disgusting but I can't say I am surprised. Some of you queens will make any excuse to justify a man's horrible treatment of women, and in this case a defenseless GIRL. No matter how heinous an offence the person with the penis always is defended over someone with a vagina.

R99, it has nothing to do with what happened in the middle ages in Europe. Nobody sold a six year-old girl to a 54-old man.

Unlike Aisha and Muhammad. And Muslims still do it to emulate the Great Man in all he did.

Gawd, r77! Stfu! We get it. Islam is the source of evil in the whole world and you won't shut up until every Muslim is viewed with nothing but contempt and suspicion. Of course, you miss the larger point of this story, but as long as you get to denigrate an entire group of people, that's all that matters.

[quote]Not his fault if the girl bled. Younger brides have survived

Said the pedophile.

I've learned so much from this thread. No, really, I have. (bangs head against desk for several minutes)

And what is the larger point of the story, 102?

My understanding of the larger point of the story is that Islam is a religion that promotes cultural practices that leave women and girls vulnerable to horrible abuse.

While violence against women is a world wide issue (mainly because men don't ever seem to get tired of raping women), the Islamic world is definitely the industry standard when it comes to cultural misogyny.

Are the monsters on this thread for real or just trying to get a reaction?

Sadly, I think they're real. And it explains a lot about the state of the world.

In general it has been the men who have done the raping and the robbing and the killing and the war-mongering for the last two thousand years.... and it's been the men who have done the pillaging and the beheading and the subjecting of whole races into slavery. It has been the men who have done the law making and the money making and the most of the mischief making! So if the world isn't quite what you had in mind you have only yourselves to thank!

This may actually be the most disturbing thread I've ever seen on DL.

And that's saying something.

[quote]While violence against women is a world wide issue (mainly because men don't ever seem to get tired of raping women), the Islamic world is definitely the industry standard when it comes to cultural misogyny.

First of all, you people need to drop the whole phrase "Muslim world". It just makes you sound narrow minded and ignorant and ignores the influence of culture on many of these countries. I have heard stories of little girls violently raped come out of countries in the Far East and Southeast Asia as well. And as far as I know, these are not predominantly Muslim countries. Girls are being exploited everyday in even developed nations through child prostitution. I don't think you can definitively state that Islam is the standard when it comes to the exploitation of women. This problem cuts across religions and cultures. The idiotic poster at r77 can pull all the quotes from the Koran that he likes and it won't change that.

[quote]I have heard stories of little girls violently raped come out of countries in the Far East and Southeast Asia as well.

But is it legal there? The marriage of the young bride who's the topic of this thread was legal. Marrying girls as young as 9 is legal when Sharia is the law of the land. The Ayatollah Khomeini married a 10-year-old girl.

Most females in most cultures have not had agency over their own lives and bodies for most of human history. To justify it still happening today by saying it has always happened is not much of a justification at all, not to mention incredibly callous.

I can't believe you queens are actually judging another culture and their way of life. The world is a complex place. Lets worry about our own country and the abuses against children and women here.

This is not about culture. This is about institutionalized violence against women and children.

r112 did you major in Multi-Cultural Studies? If so, your parents wasted their money. PC is ovah. Finally, some of us are waking from the trance and seeing the world in the clear light of reason.

I can handle worrying about our own country and the rest of the world. Violence against women and children should not be tolerated in any culture.

the insensitivity to Eastern Culture by the Western Christian hegemons here is disgusting.

mhb, I just want to take this opportunity to tell you that I think you're a fascinating train wreck. I love coming across your posts because I can never seem to accurately predict what subjects or opinions are going to set you off.

Quite frankly, I think you should have a reality show on Bravo that involves you living in a condo with someone who can't properly punctuate, someone who thinks that graduate school is for idiots who can't function in the real world, a gay guy in his twenties who lives in New York City with a roommate, a butch lesbian, and 3 slightly pudgy soccer moms.

I could watch you be irrationally nasty all day!

If you love your Eastern culture than you'll try to reform legalized child abuse and violence against women.

Please don't encourage it, R117.

"What are you gonna do? go in there and start a war and force your beliefs on someone else?"

Europeans should have kept their colonies and imposed 20th century Western cultural norms on everyone. I think the world would be a better place today in many respects and not any worse in others if this had happened.

R97 and R99, you are both absolute morons and void of any human decency if you don't see that the issue here is not so much underage sex as it is the fact that a female was violently raped until she died.

Naturally, the parents want this bastard prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for raping their daughter. I'm not sure what they expected when they married her off at 13 years of age.

Sex with a 13 year old is rape.

OMG, 123 posts for this? You guys are not well.

Not in Yemen R123 and sex outside marriage is illegal there.

And for those who think this is a Muslim issue remember that in the world's largest Muslim country, Indonesia, the age of consent is 16 for women.

Is Yemen worse than Taliban.

It [italic]is[/italic] a Muslim issue. Yemenis have tried to raise the legal age for marriage, but they're blocked by clerics who state that that goes against Muslim law. Some Muslim countries have enough separation of religion and state to enact a modern minimum age. Neither Saudi Arabia nor Yemen has that separation.

Age has nothing to do with physical development with girls. They don't magically start their periods and develop breasts on their 12th or 13th birthdays. Some girls are (physically speaking) sexually mature at 11 or 12 and others not until 17 or 18. The stupid bastard (and the girl's dimwit parents) obviously didn't take that into consideration. Then there is the fact that this was obviously a rape scenario. It's utterly foul and married or not the guy should have his dick cut off.

It's not only a matter of age but also of consent. (Yes, I know a child cannot legally consent to sex.) A much older woman can suffer horrific internal injuries from forced sex. The rape would still have been illegal (I'm assuming rape is illegal in Yemen??) whether she was 6 or 60.

I am a parent. You people need to take human development 101. A 13 year old is a child emotionally regardless of her period or breast size.

I doubt Yemen recognizes the concept of marital rape. Under Islamic law, women are not allowed to refuse their husband's request for sex.

[quote]I'm assuming rape is illegal in Yemen??)

All sex outside marriage is illegal whether consensual or non-consensual. There is no legislation against rape within marriage, unlike many other countries.

In many countries rape survivors are stoned to death by the government for being raped.

Not many R133, actually only in 4, but that is horrific enough.

allah akbar!

lol@r59.

[quote]The world would be a different place if adult women were able to tear apart young boy's genitals during sex, leading to the boy's deaths and adult women would somehow find this "hot".

Well, for starters elementary school teachers would probably get a bit more respect.