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Ryan Seacrest

He's on cocaine, right?

by Anonymousreply 901May 9, 2009 2:30 AM

Nope. Heroin.

by Anonymousreply 1April 15, 2009 7:12 PM

He was much calmer and looked more rested on the elimination night. And twittered about visiting Simon's trailer before the show. I wonder if this two things are connected.

by Anonymousreply 2April 16, 2009 5:24 AM

He was trippin' on Tues.

by Anonymousreply 3April 16, 2009 9:58 AM

If he has to tweet as if it's some big event, he must not visit Simon's trailer very often.

by Anonymousreply 4April 16, 2009 12:55 PM

People tweet about the most usual and random (for them) things - "drinking coffee", "going to work" and so on.

by Anonymousreply 5April 16, 2009 1:16 PM

Fight for Ryan's hetrosexuality continues. First FOX (Rupert's channell) wrote about Ryan dirty dancing with some waitress. Now New York Post (guess who owner?) wrote this (see link). Next - Rupert Murdoch doing breaking news and announcing that he personally saw Ryan kissing three playboy bunnies at once. Stay tuned!

Seriously, I would never ever believe this guy ever was near vagina. I don't know whom he's fucking, but I'm sure this person has a dick. Probably huge. Probably black.

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by Anonymousreply 6April 16, 2009 1:41 PM

She's the one he was dirty dancing with. I knew it!!! The dirty dancing brunette!

by Anonymousreply 7April 16, 2009 2:02 PM

According to Kathy Griffin, yes.

She said the night he ripped open her blouse on television he was acting manic backstage, running around and sweating.

by Anonymousreply 8April 16, 2009 2:03 PM

Does Fox require that their American Idol host not be known as a cocksucker? They're sure taking a personal interest.

by Anonymousreply 9April 16, 2009 2:07 PM

I almost don't watch american television, and don't know a lot about FOX, but I heard it's pretty conservative channell. Is it truth? I read a lot of criticism about the way FOX handled Adam Lambert's homosexuality - Bill O'Reilly did a show about it, and called Adam's pictures with another man embarassing, and so on.

by Anonymousreply 10April 16, 2009 2:14 PM

does ryan get a lot of dick?

by Anonymousreply 11April 16, 2009 2:15 PM

I'm sure he does drugs from time to time, but not because Kathy Griffin said so. She's a big bullshitter, which should be obvious for everybody. She's a comic, for God's sake, she exaggerates everything.

by Anonymousreply 12April 16, 2009 2:18 PM

I hope he does, r-11, because he definitely didn't get a lot of vagina.

by Anonymousreply 13April 16, 2009 2:20 PM

When Big Boss Murdoch is the one slinging the shit, you know they have his balls in a vice.

by Anonymousreply 14April 16, 2009 2:31 PM

tmz censored a comment from someone saying he works down the hall from Ryan at E! - that it's a shame he had to do this for his career, etc. It was up at one point last night, and now it's not.

by Anonymousreply 15April 16, 2009 2:34 PM

This began immediately after Ryan and Simon's little indiscretion surrounding Kelly Clarkson's 'My Life Would Suck Without You' appeareance.

by Anonymousreply 16April 16, 2009 2:36 PM

"...she exaggerates everything"

Well, since his idiotic behavior was on national TV, I'd say she didn't exaggerate that...

by Anonymousreply 17April 16, 2009 2:41 PM

Yeah, there were a bunch of pushing-the-envelope type moments early in the season (the Kelly Clarkson comment, Ryan saying "You should see me do the cold hearted snake," the two of them holding hands while wrangling over that eliminated gay guy's headband), and I think that's probably what started Operation Seacrest Not Out.

by Anonymousreply 18April 16, 2009 2:42 PM

Is TMZ a Murdoch subsidiary through some backdoor channel?

by Anonymousreply 19April 16, 2009 2:45 PM

I'd feel sorry for him, but bed, made, lie, you know?

by Anonymousreply 20April 16, 2009 2:46 PM

His behaviour backstage wasn't on the national TV, and that's what r-8 was talking about. Ripping off the blouse, on the other hand, really was idiotic, but Kathy made millions thanks to that incident and ripped his asshole better than all of his male lovers, so I guess they even now.

by Anonymousreply 21April 16, 2009 3:21 PM

Ryan's tweet where he mentioned spending the weekend with his 'fam' and included his gran sitting on Simon's knee was a big deal for them.

Terri brought the tweet to Simon's attention on Extra and he took the opportunity to diss Twitter users in general, but you could see the alarm bells ringing in his eyes as he realised how coupley and domesticated Ryan's tweet seemed.

Looks like Cowell sent him out on beard patrol to make up for that and all the stuff R18 mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 22April 16, 2009 3:22 PM

Wow, Perez on Twitter talks about Ryan and Simon's supposed gayness. This is going to be interesting.

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by Anonymousreply 23April 16, 2009 3:23 PM

What happened with Perez? Simon forget to send him his regular paycheck?

by Anonymousreply 24April 16, 2009 3:25 PM

Ryan's two most recent tweets are also interesting. He says that Simon was checking out Paula's "puppies" off camera last night, and asks if it's nice or cheesy when a guy picks someone (implying a woman) up from the airport and brings flowers. Maybe Perez is responding to the "We're straight! We're straight!" panic Ryan's sending out.

by Anonymousreply 25April 16, 2009 3:33 PM

Jeez, the Post headline is "Ryan's Flame" Flaming? Flamer? I can't tell in which cheek they are putting their tongue.

And his hot momma is a cocktail waitress? They couldn't afford a better beard?

by Anonymousreply 26April 16, 2009 3:34 PM

Does regular people find it strange that Perez connected two of them in one question=tweet? And why he did that? I always thought he strongly suspects or maybe knows about them, he even said to Ryan once "You as gay as Simon Cowell". But he doesn't have proof to broke this story.

by Anonymousreply 27April 16, 2009 3:42 PM

No, R26, that's what makes it so romantic! It's a modern day fairy tale! He picked her up out of the gutter and took her lowly pantyhose-with-shorts ass to the City of Lights! (Also, I love it that in Hollywood, even cocktail waitresses have pages on IMDB.)

by Anonymousreply 28April 16, 2009 3:44 PM

Ryan has REALLY been laying on the "totally het" talk on his radio show for the past few weeks. It seems even more contrived than usual in light of the new bearing. Also, check out his Twitter... He posted that Simon was ogling Paula's tits last night. Barf.

by Anonymousreply 29April 16, 2009 3:47 PM

Don't know about cocaine or cock, but one thing I know for sure - person who does his makeup for Idol definitely hates him. He looks great on random pictures from the street, on the photos from his radio show, but on Idol he looks like wax figure. What the fuck with that? He's a handsome guy on TV - why make him ugly?

by Anonymousreply 30April 16, 2009 4:02 PM

Don't know about cocaine or cock, but one thing I know for sure - person who does his makeup for Idol definitely hates him. He looks great on random pictures from the street, on the photos from his radio show, but on Idol he looks like wax figure. What the fuck with that? He's a handsome guy on TV - why make him ugly?

by Anonymousreply 31April 16, 2009 4:03 PM

Puppies? He called them puppies? What a fucking douchebag.

by Anonymousreply 32April 16, 2009 5:20 PM

Don't forget that he was dressed like a chav in those photos too. AFAIC, Ryan and that hoochie mamma deserve each other.

by Anonymousreply 33April 16, 2009 5:26 PM

Did you see Paula last night, 32? The sad thing is it really looked like puppies.

by Anonymousreply 34April 16, 2009 5:28 PM

What I really want to see is Ryan and this chick on a Saturday night shakedown with Simon and the boys, all splashed up nice and garish on the pages of that blog. That would be hilarious.

And Terri showed him the tweet? That was a setup too. I think they're all playing one big game, and Terri, Ryan, and Simon are still involved in a weird little threesome.

by Anonymousreply 35April 16, 2009 5:29 PM

Yeah, I saw her tatas displayed in all their implanted glory. I didn't see Seacrest lay his hand on Cowell's thigh, so I'll assume that never happened.

by Anonymousreply 36April 16, 2009 5:31 PM

Clay likes "puppies" too.

What does that tell ya.

by Anonymousreply 37April 16, 2009 5:40 PM

I'm not sure, R36, but I think that thing about Ryan putting his hand on Simon's thigh was a behind-the-scenes thing from EW. I think it was supposed to be something that happened while the Quentin Tarantino movie montage was showing. So people who were there might have seen it, but it wasn't on the show...?

by Anonymousreply 38April 16, 2009 5:40 PM

Quote:

"... I almost missed the moment during QT's intro package when Simon beckoned Ryan over, Ryan placed his hand firmly on Simon's thigh, and Simon began talking into Ryan's ear, in the way that he physically placed his lips on Ryan's ear."

I think it's really happened. Why would recapper lie about things like that?

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by Anonymousreply 39April 16, 2009 5:47 PM

This was fun while it lasted, but the truth is that he is either straight and treats his women as sleaze trophies, or a real coward.

by Anonymousreply 40April 16, 2009 6:09 PM

He's gay man in Hollywood and he's probably fucking his also closeted co-worker. He's a coward in the industry of cowards.

by Anonymousreply 41April 16, 2009 6:22 PM

Kathy Griffin isn't brave, she doesn't OUT anybody about anything, but waits to see what the industry is already talking about, speculation the media has printed, and so when she so bravely talked about "Gaykin" or Paula's being on something pharmaceutical, no brain power required, but she makes it all seem as if she is being so outrageous when she is a gigantic put-down. (And I like Kathy.)

At the big production number opening the show of latest THE A LIST AWARDS or whatever that nonsense thing is called on BRAVO, she "sang" that "Ryan's ass was in the air for Simon to plow it."

So the talk about them is very mainstream in the industry now or she wouldn't have bothered. As for what's going on, on AI. A bunch of the usual stuff, minus all the insults Simon used to hurl upon Ryan as a matter of course. They seem pretty comfy cozy, which only lends strength to the domesticity rumors.

If Ryan was at BRITAIN'S GOT TALENT over the weekend, he probably flew over on Simon's chartered jet. That's a lot more luxurious than regular first class, and more private too.

by Anonymousreply 42April 16, 2009 6:22 PM

I doubt he was in Britain over the weekend. I posted link to twitter that said someone saw "Ryan Seacrest guy" during auditions for BGT, but most likely he really was in Paris this whole time.

by Anonymousreply 43April 16, 2009 7:34 PM

R-18, nah, I don't think so. First of all, I think all this stuff you mentioned is very innocent by their standards. Two seasons ago they talked about (im)possibility of homosexual relationship between them in incredibly tense and uncomfortable moment on the show. Last season Ryan kissed Simon, they were holding hands in front of the camera, being extremely flirty and playful with each other. So it's nothing new or unusual for two of them, and things like that went unnoticed by public most of the time.

And secondly, bearding started before the start of this season. Ryan was pictured with some girls before he vacationed with Simon.

I suspect something BIG happened in between seasons. Maybe gossip about big person from Idol spreading rumours was truth. End of bearding contract with Terry also played big role. Either way, I'm afraid this bearding shit will continues.

by Anonymousreply 44April 16, 2009 7:57 PM

All of the articles about the new girlfriend (Jasmine Waltz) claim that they've been together for "a few months." Yet we see photos of her for the first time now? This is so fucking transparent. Obviously there are higher-ups at E! and Fox who freaked out, and it probably had a domino effect from there (i.e. Ryan and Simon freaking out... they are such control freak narcissists that any risk to their money and fame trumps anything remotely human, like love)

by Anonymousreply 45April 16, 2009 11:04 PM

I can't wait until he takes her to Simon's 50th birthday bash. I want to see those photos. It would be romantic.

I'm sure if Ryan and Simon were doing anything naughty, they're not doing it any more. The order came down from on high to cut that shit out... but not from the AI producers, who with Norman and other things haven't been shy about hinting at it this year. It must have come straight from Fox, maybe from Murdoch himself.

On the other hand, maybe they're both more or less straight and have just been jerking things around this whole season.

by Anonymousreply 46April 17, 2009 12:48 AM

DL will be happy - there will be many fewer posts regarding Cowell and Seacrest from here on out.

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by Anonymousreply 47April 17, 2009 2:29 AM

Oh, please, like this beard changes anything. Simon was in a "relationship" for 7 or 8 years, and recently admitted the truth - that he and Terry are friends (bot he didn't admit they always were just friends). Now Ryan's turn to bearding. It's not a first time - he'll be pictured with this girl few times near the clubs or restaurants, like he was pictured with Sophie Monk a year ago, and few months later she'll probably will dissappear from the horizont.

And I'm absolutely sure that Ryan and Simon are together, still together, and they seem happier or more at peace with each other than ever.

by Anonymousreply 48April 17, 2009 3:11 AM

They won't be if more Hollywood types follow Leno and especially Griffin's lead (see 47). I can see Simon dropping Seacrest without a second thought.

by Anonymousreply 49April 17, 2009 3:13 AM

Plus you just know the next step for Seacrest is an "accidentally misplaced" and release to the world sex tape.

by Anonymousreply 50April 17, 2009 3:18 AM

"Yeah, there were a bunch of pushing-the-envelope type moments early in the season (the Kelly Clarkson comment, Ryan saying "You should see me do the cold hearted snake," the two of them holding hands while wrangling over that eliminated gay guy's headband), and I think that's probably what started Operation Seacrest Not Out."

Why would he (they) do all that shit if Seacrest was just going to retreat to the same old same old?

by Anonymousreply 51April 17, 2009 3:56 AM

"I can see Simon dropping Seacrest without a second thought."

Keep dreaming, dipshit.

Still afraid he'll drop Paula aren't you? Well, don't worry. He won't do that either.

by Anonymousreply 52April 17, 2009 4:57 AM

You mean Paula and Simon are fucking too?

by Anonymousreply 53April 17, 2009 5:43 AM

The more mainstream commenting on Ry/Si by the likes of Leno and Kathy has scared the shit out of them. Yes they have flirted for years and pushed the boundries with their comments/actions on air, but in hindsight, they probably should have cooled things in front of the cameras after Terri left. The internet was rife with comments about Ryan at that point, plus the Enquirer article. Instead Ryan could barely contain himself, which is probably why Cowell has sent him off on beard duty.

Simon spent 7 years in a fake LTR with Terri. I doubt he thinks it's any big deal for Ryan to go on a few dates with girls. It's nothing in comparison.

As a side question, do people think Simon's mother knows the truth? They are very close and she seemed close to Terri, always talking about her wish for them to marry and have kids. I used to see regular comments from her in the media, but since Terri left there has been nothing from her.

Do you think she's knows Simon's gay and/or with Ryan?

by Anonymousreply 54April 17, 2009 9:51 AM

He's almost 50 years old. If he's gay(and I think he is), she either knows about his sexuality, either she as dumb as rock. Not sure about Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 55April 17, 2009 10:20 AM

R-50, Oh, I doubt it. First of all, unlike Paris, he has a legitimate career. Like him or not, but his career is pretty amazing.

And secondly, while his sex tape with a men could be interesting indeed, but with woman - give me a break! He couldn't even play a simple kiss!

by Anonymousreply 56April 17, 2009 10:30 AM

If he's gay, how the hell could Simon's mother not know? She was a ballerina for god's sake.

by Anonymousreply 57April 17, 2009 10:57 AM

When will this chick show up on the set of American Idol? Does Ryan introduce her as his gf to the judges and staff, or does everyone just smirk knowingly and go about their business? What happens?

by Anonymousreply 58April 17, 2009 11:01 AM

I had no idea that Seacrest was lying down with dogs like Clear Channel. No wonder he's waking up with fleas.

by Anonymousreply 59April 17, 2009 11:43 AM

Simon has described his mother as 'very camp'. She's totally theatrical and no doubt is on his bearding act. She played the doting mother in law very well with Terri.

The Cowell's seem very close and will no doubt do anything to protect their boy, as do Jackie and Sinitta, his top hags in the UK.

Anyone who heard Ryan speak to Nick Cowell on air after Simon split with Terri will understand the real deal. They completely mocked Simon's r/ship with Terri and talked about how close Ryan and Simon were. Nick said something about Simon trying to find a woman to share that kind of love with (there was much laughter in the background from Nick's wife). His family would not mock Terri in that way if it was a real 6 year r/ship.

Anyone have this audio i'm refering to please?

by Anonymousreply 60April 17, 2009 11:58 AM

How do you know Cowell's brother and Seacrest weren't mocking Cowell and Seacrest's relationship? Why would they be so blatant, when they panicked on the Tonight Show and seem firmly determined to remain in the closet?

by Anonymousreply 61April 17, 2009 12:08 PM

They have been blatant for years, Ryan's comments re Simon have been well documented here. Although i agree they will remain in the closet. They push the door open then go rushing back in when it all gets too much for them.

They like people to speculate because they know without evidence of them fucking nothing can be proved. Even a kiss would not prove it, unless it was a full on one.

If i had the audio it would be easier to explain.

Another fav comment was some woman walking to Ryan about having to move in with her mother in law. She said, "you can't have two queens in one house" to which Ryan replied "well you should come by my house on a Friday night...Simon was over".

by Anonymousreply 62April 17, 2009 12:38 PM

Uh, wow. Hard to believe.

by Anonymousreply 63April 17, 2009 12:49 PM

"well you should come by my house on a Friday night...Simon was over".

This sentence doesn't make sense.

by Anonymousreply 64April 17, 2009 1:02 PM

Do Ryan and Giuliana Rancic get along on the set of E! News?

Do they have squabbles with each other?

by Anonymousreply 65April 17, 2009 1:07 PM

Did Kathy Griffin said anything about him in her new special?

by Anonymousreply 66April 17, 2009 1:09 PM

I wonder if Seacrest has a tag team of shrinks.

by Anonymousreply 67April 17, 2009 1:14 PM

Simon has always been friendly with Kathy Griffin. Would he be so friendly with someone who was constantly trashing a significant other?

by Anonymousreply 68April 17, 2009 1:17 PM

R64 it doesn't quite make sense. I guess you understand what he was trying to say - Simon was at his house and they are both queens.

Grammatically it's incorrect, but he was speaking on the radio and it was an off the cuff quip, so it's not going to sound perfect.

R68, When has Simon been friendly with Kathy? Has Ryan actually expressed any dislike of Kathy anyway? Im sure they can both take a joke as long as it's done with genuine humour. They gay bait each other all the time, so can hardly complain when others like Kathy do.

by Anonymousreply 69April 17, 2009 1:44 PM

R-65 t

He invites Giuliana to his radio show to fill in when his regular co-host Ellen K. absent, so I think they get along just fine. To be honest, I like her better than Ellen K. She laughs at Ryan without mercy, and they sound like they have great chemistry together. I don't watch E! News and hate red carpets in general, but on the radio these two are very good together.

by Anonymousreply 70April 17, 2009 7:03 PM

Re Ryan and drugs.... The druggies I've known are guilty of having too much time on their hands. Ryan could never be accused of that.

Busy people live on caffeine, and Ryan is def a coffee drinker. The various amounts and tolerance levels are presumably why he goes thru bouts of insomnia too.

Now back to Rymon, whom I still believe want to be outed, but can't risk outing themselves. So Ryan may be bearding, but that doesn't mean all will boring at the AI judges table.

by Anonymousreply 71April 17, 2009 10:32 PM

Anyone ever see this video of Ryan and Simon at the IVY from last year? Look at Simon's reaction at 1:17 when he see's Ryan driving up from behind him. He actually says "God..." when he see's Ryan in his hot car.

I remember Ryan interviewing Lionel Richie last year after David Cook did "Hello" on Idol. They were talking about Lionel running into Simon at Whole Foods and how Simon had his Bently outside. Ryan almost said "Simon has a car Fet....um obsession". I remember being stuck by how quickly he stopped short of saying fetish.

I also remember Ryan telling a story about how he borrowed Simon's car and got a ticket while in it.

I'd bet ANYTHING they've(no matter what they're relationship is) have fucked in and on cars.

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by Anonymousreply 72April 17, 2009 11:34 PM

bump.

by Anonymousreply 73April 18, 2009 12:42 AM

Here's a big WORD to whoever said if these two (Simon & Ryan) aren't fucking they have the most fucked up friendship ever.

Seriously, how can people think they are not fucking? First season of AI Simon was leering at Ryan constantly, while Ryan was more neutral, more focussed on the job and getting along with everybody. But Simon was always in Ryan's face, cruising him, checking out his ass. Maybe most of the public watching didn't catch on because it would have been too uncomfortable for them to notice. But when Simon imitated a leering queen while cruising Ryan it wasn't OtP enough to be a real send-up, so it was a genuine cruise.

Since then, Simon still can't keep his eyes - or hands - off Ryan. And he's damn possessive, since he doesn't want even Randy touching him.

I think he went from lust over a pretty boy to love rather quickly.

by Anonymousreply 74April 18, 2009 2:08 AM

Perez Hilton says Ryan is not gay in his latest post on him. He must not be gay.

by Anonymousreply 75April 18, 2009 3:44 AM

R-71

I remember I saw on some blog a post from girl who said she saw Ryan doing lines in the car before Madonna's concert. And there were some pictures of him with bloody nose. Actually, I think he does drugs from time to time, but he's not an uncontrollabe addict. At least not yet. He couldn't do all of his jobs with serious addiction.

I think he really should cut few jobs and rest more to drop this unhealthy habits, like not sleeping, not eating, doing drugs and too much coffee. But I doubt this will ever happen. His work and his ambitions are drugs to him.

by Anonymousreply 76April 18, 2009 7:17 AM

R 72 t

Okey, I am completely crazy or Simon really said "My girlfriend had a car like that" about Ryan's car in the video you posted?

by Anonymousreply 77April 18, 2009 7:21 AM

Like Perez has the veracity of Tom Brokaw. Perez and Seacrest swim in the same opportunism pond. Seacrest gets Perez some exposure on his radio show and Perez does him some favors in his column.

by Anonymousreply 78April 18, 2009 7:22 AM

And I didn't hear "God..." in this video, although I think it's funny how he was looking for Ryan with his eyes.

by Anonymousreply 79April 18, 2009 7:23 AM

Ryan is a heterosexualist, so shut your mouths!

by Anonymousreply 80April 18, 2009 7:30 AM

I'd like to see another Walker column after all this stuff that's gone on. They still can't make it a real story though - no proof.

by Anonymousreply 81April 18, 2009 7:33 AM

"And I didn't hear "God..."

Either you are lying or you weren't paying attention.

by Anonymousreply 82April 18, 2009 7:42 AM

I have no reasons to lie, and I watched this video a couple of times. Just didn't hear it. When exactly this happened?

by Anonymousreply 83April 18, 2009 7:44 AM

Right when he turns to look at Ryan. I really don't see how you could miss it.

by Anonymousreply 84April 18, 2009 7:46 AM

Yes, Perez wrote about this story with LA bartender, and the same day asked on his Twitter what people think about Ryan - is he gay or straight? And the same for Simon Cowell, in the same tweet. 90 percent answered that Ryan or Simon or both are gay.

by Anonymousreply 85April 18, 2009 7:48 AM

I watch again later, 84. But anyway, I think it's great video - love how Simon always follows Ryan with his eyes.

by Anonymousreply 86April 18, 2009 7:50 AM

He doesn't say it really loud. It's kind of under his breath.

by Anonymousreply 87April 18, 2009 7:51 AM

Do Ryan and Giuliana Rancic get along on the set of E! News?"

Giuliana & Chelsea Handler had some sort of falling out. Quite cryptic. GR used to guest on CH's roundtable a couple times a month. Around the time GR went back to her maiden name, CH slammed GR, things like her doing coke all night, while Bill Rancic lives in Chicago. (GR flys there on weekends). After her rant, Chelsea did that "chalk one up" thing. Really odd.

by Anonymousreply 88April 18, 2009 7:58 AM

Yes, 85, and then he answered his own question by saying that Ryan is Not Gay.

by Anonymousreply 89April 18, 2009 8:01 AM

So Ryan's got a date for Simon's birthday; who will Simon squire for the big event?

by Anonymousreply 90April 18, 2009 8:07 AM

R-88, I say one thing - Joel McHale respects and likes Ryan a lot, and he's the only one on E! who matters. At least for me.

//Chelsea did that "chalk one up" thing.//

Sorry, but what do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 91April 18, 2009 12:19 PM

Thanks for the information, r70.

by Anonymousreply 92April 18, 2009 12:24 PM

That video has a big tell from Cowell. When he gave Seacrest the stink eye for starting to say that he called him to discuss the Clay thing, Cowell got all "shut up" about it... I mean really, who cares if they talked about it?

Mistake.

by Anonymousreply 93April 18, 2009 4:17 PM

It shows Simon is very controlling, R-93. In both a good way and bad way. I am pretty sure Ryan's complete metamorphosis from the uber-gay looking surfer dude host (early Idol) to the metrosexual Dick Clark (now Idol) was heavily influenced by Simon. Simon has also been a great mentor in teaching Ryan the ropes as a successful producer--albeit for trashy reality shows.

The bad way is that he can use his cruel streak as a way of keeping Ryan in line as if he were Ryan's stern father. Ryan owes Simon a lot, so Ryan obviously is the one who gives in the most. However, now that Ryan is rich and popular, Simon's controlling nature can get old and probably leads to some huge fights and tensions.

by Anonymousreply 94April 18, 2009 4:49 PM

So many make it seem like it is poor Ryan forced into the closet by Cowell and big bad FOX bosses, but come on, he's a 35 year old man. He is in the closet because that is where he wants to be.

by Anonymousreply 95April 18, 2009 4:51 PM

R-95, Simon is also in the closet and pays a very good publicist to help keep him there. Neither Ryan nor Simon want to rock the boat in their lucrative careers by coming out--ever. However, it is clear they love tweaking things by acting like lovers and then pulling back--by bearding, flirting with Paula, looking down the bodices of women, etc.

by Anonymousreply 96April 18, 2009 5:02 PM

I don't think Ryan is forced into anything. THAT is Prancing Pony-ish. I do, however, believe that of the two of them, Ryan would be the on to want to come out of the closet. Simon's "studli-ness" toward the female demo is too important for him to give up.

by Anonymousreply 97April 18, 2009 5:02 PM

Oh come on, it's no coincidence that this stripper / waitress / whatever beard first appeared on the webpages of Fox News and Fox News only.

by Anonymousreply 98April 18, 2009 5:12 PM

I can't entirely figure out Ryan's feelings about being closeted. (I mean, obviously I can't--I've never met him...) You're right, R95, that he's a grown-up and no one's forcing him to do anything. But he looked so grim in those photos from Paris with the new "girlfriend" last weekend, like he was annoyed he had to go to these lengths. And he seems to enjoy pushing the envelope with Simon on the show, and some of the things he's said on his radio show are fairly outrageous. So...I'd guess he's fairly conflicted about it, and may feel trapped into staying closeted for now, even though the choices he's made have all been his.

by Anonymousreply 99April 18, 2009 5:17 PM

I wonder if he ever wishes that he'd gone the Anderson Cooper route and just stayed cool about the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 100April 18, 2009 5:21 PM

Wow, R72, you could tell a lot from that clip. They were very "friendly" with one another, they definitely looked like more than friends!

by Anonymousreply 101April 18, 2009 5:35 PM

So who thinks the Enquirer will run the story of Ryan in Paris with a woman?

Or will the Enquirer's evil informant (the one that keeps telling them that Ryan and Simon are a gay couple) tell them that Ryan's people tipped off the paps that Ryan and the brunette bartender were going to Paris to stage a photo op in order to boost Ryan's shaky hetero credentials?

by Anonymousreply 102April 18, 2009 9:27 PM

Ryan is a tender and thoughtful lover who paid scrupulous loving attention to my most private lady parts. He's fanfuckingtabulous.

by Anonymousreply 103April 18, 2009 9:30 PM

So.. who's the top and who's the bottom?

by Anonymousreply 104April 18, 2009 9:38 PM

Ryan tops... from the bottom.

by Anonymousreply 105April 18, 2009 10:14 PM

//Ryan owes Simon a lot, so Ryan obviously is the one who gives in the most//

Probably agree with second part, but not the first. Ryan owes a lot to American Idol, and because of it - to Simon, because Simon is making this show. But Simon is also owes Idol a lot - he was almost bankrupt before this shows (Pop Idol, and then much bigger American idol) came his way, and now he makes more than hundred millions of dollars every year, has a chance to produce and star in other shows, discover new artists and make even more money with their promotion.

And I don't really buying theory that producers left Ryan as a host after first season only thanks to Simon. I think Simon would mentioned it if it was the case. He likes to talk about how he made Ryan, but never said he save his job as a host.

And I think Ryan deserves a a lot of credit for his career. Yes, he was lucky to get this gig, but he used this chance to the fullest. And it's his own achievement, not Simon's.

by Anonymousreply 106April 18, 2009 10:35 PM

I have no doubt in my mind that if Simon Cowell wanted Ryan gone after the first year--he would have been gone. Simon Cowell may not have been the producer of Idol, but it was his idea for the show and he was the cast member that everyone loved to hate and grew to become the member most indispensable.

Ryan was mostly an unknown, acted silly a lot of the time, and had to share the hosting chores with an even more obnoxious character with whom he had NO chemistry. It wouldn't surprise me if the producers would have gladly sent Ryan home at the end of the season, but Simon found Ryan appealing underneath the tinted hair and overdone tan. Ryan needed the break and Simon probably saved his ass.

by Anonymousreply 107April 19, 2009 2:48 AM

Saturday night is date night U.S.A.

by Anonymousreply 108April 19, 2009 3:35 AM

"well you should come by my house on a Friday night...Simon was over".

He probably started out talking about their weekly hook-ups. Then instead of saying "Simon comes over," which he belatedly realized would spill the beans on something he didn't want spilled, changed it to a one-time event.

What a closet case -- calling him a queen on one hand and then getting all paranoid.

That is IF he ever said this on his show.

by Anonymousreply 109April 19, 2009 3:59 AM

//Ryan needed the break and Simon probably saved his ass. //

Sorry, but this is nothing but speculations. Nigel Lythgoe, ex Idol's producer, said that everybody were impressed with Ryan's cleverness and quickness since his first audition. Everybody, including Simon in his book, said that he was unbelievable hard-working. There is no proof to confirm the theory that producers of the show were not happy with him as a host and that he saved his job only thanks to Simon.

by Anonymousreply 110April 19, 2009 6:40 AM

Nobody in the know has ever said that these guys are gay, or even have any stories about them together. They've known each other for almost ten years -- if they're together, somebody would have had something to say about it besides Mike Walker's probably imaginary source.

by Anonymousreply 111April 19, 2009 6:46 AM

R111 somebody in the know did say that these guys are gay - that's what started this whole discussion in the first place.

Whether you believe it not is irrelevant. Your point - well you don't have one.

by Anonymousreply 112April 19, 2009 7:09 AM

No one here at the DL has any stories, which just goes to show you that either they're not together, or that nobody on the "inside" posts here.

by Anonymousreply 113April 19, 2009 7:14 AM

R-111 Actually, there were some sources. Ex contestants from Idol - Cimberly Caldwell and most importantly Corey Clark, who was fucking Paula and new a lot of inside information, claimed Simon and Ryan were lovers. Perez Hilton hinted at it in interview with Ryan. Mike Walker wrote about it few times - first about Paula spreading this information, then about unknown important on Idol source talking about them being lovers. And you know, the fact that DL has no insiders about Ryan and Simon, doesn't mean anything.

by Anonymousreply 114April 19, 2009 7:24 AM

Perez Hilton just said that Ryan isn't gay, and he probably knows as much as anybody about what's up.

by Anonymousreply 115April 19, 2009 7:27 AM

After that interview Perez became much softer on Ryan. He's always good with celebrities who pay attention to him. Simon and Ryan both know it and use it.

by Anonymousreply 116April 19, 2009 7:35 AM

Well, I think I remember some insider who said that Ryan is gay and uses black male prostitutes from time to time. Anybody else remember this story?

by Anonymousreply 117April 19, 2009 7:44 AM

There was somebody who said he hired the same guy every year after his New York New Year's shows, but race wasn't mentioned. I didn't buy it.

by Anonymousreply 118April 19, 2009 7:54 AM

"I didn't buy it"

You can't buy anything, including an eyewitness report from Datalounge. If the video evidence isn't there documenting the two in flagrant action, the two guys are straight. That is how it works and why Ryan and Simon are on safe ground.

by Anonymousreply 119April 19, 2009 9:10 AM

If they're on safe ground, why is Seacrest bearding? He doesn't have to, does he, on safe ground?

Perhaps she's not a beard at all.

by Anonymousreply 120April 19, 2009 9:25 AM

R-119, yes, that's how it works for general public and press, but we still have a right to think, doubt, gossip and even speculate. And to be honest, these two give a hell a lot of basis for speculations. Much more than Tom Cruise or John Travolta, who presumed to be gay by everybody.

by Anonymousreply 121April 19, 2009 9:55 AM

So would DLers love Ryan & Simon any more if they did come out?

by Anonymousreply 122April 19, 2009 10:31 AM

They never would come out. At least until they work together.

by Anonymousreply 123April 19, 2009 11:20 AM

Well, I think gay-community will accept them, if they will come out without scandal. Clay Aiken was accepted after his coming out, and he was hiding in the closet and has a lot of scandals around him, including scandals of homosexual nature. Actually, I can imagine Ryan coming out with time, but not Simon. Of course, he will eat a portion of jokes and will be ridiculed for some time, but then, I guess, he actually will be more respected. And I doubt they will ever come out as a couple, because in this case press will be hunting after them for years.

by Anonymousreply 124April 19, 2009 11:42 AM

"Clay Aiken was accepted after his coming out"

Clay may be accepted now as less of a joke, but his career as a recording artist is pretty much over and he is not in demand as a Broadway star, movie star or television personality.

by Anonymousreply 125April 19, 2009 1:36 PM

His career was over even before he came out - actually, many people thought that his coming out is one of the ways to revive his career, but this is obviously didn't work. But he has something going on - I read he has cameos on America's Next Top Model and 30 Rock, presented on GLAAD. That's about it. Maybe he is over, but I don't think it happened because he came out. And I wonder, what he thinks about Adam Lambert. He probably watches the show, I heard he watches it religiously, all seasons since he was on, argues with Simon, and still not over his loss in Season 2. Don't know if it's truth or not.

by Anonymousreply 126April 19, 2009 2:57 PM

Has he ever made sly, insinuating, insulting comments about Seacrest or Cowell? Vice versa, this obviously isn't the case.

by Anonymousreply 127April 19, 2009 3:32 PM

Clay did a lot of not very flattering comments about Simon and his attitude during American idol. He obviously took Simon's criticism very close to the heart and, I suspect, still not over the fact that he lost first place in Season 2. And Simon not very fond of Clay either. To be honest, I was always annoyed by Simon's "You remind me of Clay Aiken" - half insult, half compliment - he used it every fucking season and said it to obviously gay contestants. It always seemed very homophobic to me, and Simon is not the one to talk.

As for Clay and Ryan, it seemed like they had a pretty good relationship after Idol ended for Clay. When Aiken visited Idol, some sources said that Ryan was the only one who talked to him and were friendly, while judges all ignored him. They did interview on Ryan's radio show, and sounded like good friends. But then, I suppose, they also had some kind of falling out, when Clay sort of dissed Ryan on Larry King Show (very subtly, and backtracked very fast), and Ryan did few duh-comments when Clay came out.

by Anonymousreply 128April 19, 2009 5:48 PM

What did he say on Larry King?

by Anonymousreply 129April 19, 2009 6:22 PM

Has Ryan's new love appeared in the pages of that blog yet?

by Anonymousreply 130April 19, 2009 6:23 PM

R-129

Larry King, who is Ryan's friend, said that Ryan sends his best and that he always was good to Clay, and Aiken responded really sarcastically, said something like "Really?" Larry King asked to clarify and Clay quickly backtracked and said "Yes, he always was good to us, we loved him". It's on youtube, so you can watch if you want.

by Anonymousreply 131April 19, 2009 6:32 PM

Ooooh, snap!

by Anonymousreply 132April 19, 2009 6:35 PM

Larry King knows that Seacrest is 100% all man heterosexual, and is envious of all the tang he pulls.

by Anonymousreply 133April 19, 2009 6:36 PM

Larry King has been married 7 times. I'm guessing he's done with tang.

by Anonymousreply 134April 19, 2009 6:51 PM

Where on earth did you hear that Clay watches Idol religiously, R126? He's on record several times as saying he never watches it. When asked about Adam Lambert at the GLAAD awards recently, he said he hadn't watched the show since season 3. Of all previous Idol contestants he has gone out of his way to distance himself from the show.

by Anonymousreply 135April 19, 2009 7:09 PM

King may be, r134, but Seacrest sure isn't!

by Anonymousreply 136April 19, 2009 7:20 PM

126 displays the signature level of fact finding and verification that is the hallmark of this site.

by Anonymousreply 137April 19, 2009 7:22 PM

R-135

I read it on some idol board - maybe they were talking about his old interviews, when he still watched it, I don't know. And I disagree about distancing part - he was on Idol's shows almost every season. He was in the finale of sixth season, did segment about Broadway for seventh season, and was guest on the show before that.

by Anonymousreply 138April 19, 2009 7:23 PM

Gosh, R134/136--you've changed my mind completely. He's not fucking Simon; he's fucking some random female DL troll. It all makes sense now.

by Anonymousreply 139April 19, 2009 7:25 PM

Clay was on Ryan's radio show not too long ago. Remember when he did the Days of Our Lives thing? They seemed friendly enough then(couldn't have been more than two years ago). In short, while I doubt they hang out, I really don't think Ryan and Clay dislike each other. I think it's a lot of overblown BS.

As for his "Duh" type comments...do you expect him to be all...."Oh my GOD! REEEEALLLY? Why, I NEVER expected such a thing! He's a FAG??? Ewww!!!"

His and Simon's comments seem more of the "So? No big deal" variety than insulting.

But alas....certain Clay freaks see anything less than glowing praise as a sin worthy of stoning.

by Anonymousreply 140April 19, 2009 7:28 PM

None of the articles mentioning Adam's potential gayness have a hint of allusion to Seacrest and Cowell. I think this means that no one in the mainstream media has any idea about them. So nothing to report = nothing there to report on.

by Anonymousreply 141April 19, 2009 8:01 PM

Yeah, let's just close down the thread because people in the MSM aren't outing Simon and Ryan along with Adam! Sounds goot to me!

by Anonymousreply 142April 19, 2009 8:04 PM

Well, you've got to admit it's suspicious, 142. It's not like it wouldn't make a good story, and the media is all about a good story. For that matter, there's been nary a ripple from Kathy Griffin's stupid song on the A-List (Z-List) awards about them fucking.

by Anonymousreply 143April 19, 2009 8:06 PM

Funny thing - the only things that convince me that Seacrest is gay are his attempts to prove he's straight. Sometimes I find myself thinking - maybe he really is straight guy, only metrosexual and a little bit girly, it's not right to be suck a slave of stereotypes and think that all metrosexuals are gays. But than I remember his "kiss" with Tery Hatcher, Bikini Girl, this whole story with Sunset Tan girl, and after that NOTHING will convince me he is straight.

And now this girl? God, this TMZ video was so awkward and unnotural. He looked like he just met her. And of course, it's such a happy coincidence that he was pictured with her three times in a row - while he usually very rarely pictured by paps.

by Anonymousreply 144April 19, 2009 8:10 PM

No, I don't have to admit it's suspicious because it isn't.

And Kathy Griffin's jokes are hardly going to make big headlines in the MSM are they?

by Anonymousreply 145April 19, 2009 8:14 PM

I think they hide their relationship very well. Many people suspect, but I'm sure very few people actually know. And it's right thing to do - they can lose a lot if the truth will come out.

by Anonymousreply 146April 19, 2009 8:15 PM

Seacrest seems to be all about slightly skanky snatch -- this chick, Tila, those backup dancers to Flo Rida... where will it end?

by Anonymousreply 147April 19, 2009 8:15 PM

[italic]Anyone who heard Ryan speak to Nick Cowell on air after Simon split with Terri will understand the real deal. They completely mocked Simon's r/ship with Terri and talked about how close Ryan and Simon were. Nick said something about Simon trying to find a woman to share that kind of love with (there was much laughter in the background from Nick's wife).[/italic]

This is part of the problem though isn't it, let's mock the gay guys who can't/won't come out. Make jokes that hint heavily that the love of a woman is superior to a male relationship.

by Anonymousreply 148April 19, 2009 8:16 PM

And Kathy Griffin's jokes are hardly going to make big headlines in the MSM are they?

Hmmm, they sure did when she hosted with Anderson last New Year's Eve.... knocking the cocks out of people's mouths ring a bell?

by Anonymousreply 149April 19, 2009 8:17 PM

Oh, it could be VERY good story - but every story has to have proofs to be considered accurate. And these two are smart enough to be careful and hire good publicists. But still, now and then, you can find some hints in the press.

by Anonymousreply 150April 19, 2009 8:19 PM

R-148

Dude, what are you talking about?

And Simon mocked his relationship with Terri even when they were "together". I remember one episode from season six, when Simon kissed one of the contestants after very good performance. On the elimination show Ryan, of course, mentioned it, girl said that she'll be happy to kiss Simon again. And Ryan, being crazy bitch that he is, mockingly said "Careful, he has a girlfriend and it's veeery serious".

Simon's reaction was indescribable. He laughed so hard, I think he's going to die. I never saw him like that.

by Anonymousreply 151April 19, 2009 8:56 PM

Cowell probably thought Seacrest was referring to himself.

by Anonymousreply 152April 19, 2009 11:34 PM

[italic]This is part of the problem though isn't it, let's mock the gay guys who can't/won't come out. Make jokes that hint heavily that the love of a woman is superior to a male relationship.[/italic]

If you can't mock your own brother, who can you mock. And no doubt they all think that male/female relationships are superior to male/male ones; Nick because he's straight, and Simon and Ryan because they're self-loathing closet cases.

by Anonymousreply 153April 19, 2009 11:36 PM

No. Earlir Ryan made a joke about Simon's "puppet". Simon took it as insulting Terri(accusing her of being a beard or something) and got all snippy.

(I personally thought he was making a naughty joke and referring to his penis, but...)

When Ryan said that to LaKisha, Simon must have realized how ridiculous he was with his "You insult my girlfriend!You can apologize!" stuff and started laughing his ass off.

by Anonymousreply 154April 19, 2009 11:40 PM

Simon thought Ryan was insulting Terri, calculated what a real boyfriend would do, and then went totally over the top about it. It was pretty funny.

Seacrest in turn reacted like a bitch, but it was kind of justified.

by Anonymousreply 155April 19, 2009 11:43 PM

To clarify further, Paula was saying "I'm not your puppet!" and Ryan said "We've all seen Simon's puppet, and Paula is much prettier."

That's why I don't think he was referring to Terri. Beard implication aside, that's just a flat out diss. Ryan has always gotten on well with Terri, and I can't see him saying Paula is prettier.

by Anonymousreply 156April 19, 2009 11:43 PM

Of course he was referring to Simon's dick. He must get around on that set.

by Anonymousreply 157April 19, 2009 11:52 PM

I thought it was funny that his mind immediately went to Terri when he heard "puppet".

by Anonymousreply 158April 19, 2009 11:54 PM

Seacrest couldn't either, as I recall. One of the few times I can remember him showing contempt for Cowell; usually it's the other way around.

by Anonymousreply 159April 20, 2009 12:31 AM

genuine contempt for him, I mean.

by Anonymousreply 160April 20, 2009 12:32 AM

I didn't see contempt, more of a "Really? You are going to admit you think of Terri as a puppet?" kind of attitude. He also seemed a bit shocked that he took it that way and didn't seem to know(right away) how to get out of the situation. Very wierd.

by Anonymousreply 161April 20, 2009 12:39 AM

Oh, I'm sure he was just pissed because his one true luvah was castigating him for insulting his "girlfriend."

by Anonymousreply 162April 20, 2009 3:50 AM

Agree with R161.

Ryan was stumped for a comeback because he couldn't believe Simon had read his comments to mean Terri ie 'beard' rather than his dick.

It was a fairly harmless 'dirty' joke which got taken to a very weird level by Simon. I think he was genuinely insulted and wanted to defend Terri. If you notice on the clip, Simon looks to his side where Terri used to sit and then touches his neck (his nervous tic) when he accuses Ryan of being obnoxious. Ryan realises he has offended him. Terri is Simon's beard but i think they are genuinely close friends, so he was offended.

Simon laughs his ass off later because he realised how much he overeacted, thinking Ryan was outing Terri as his beard - 'puppet'. Ryan mocks the seriousness of Si/Terri because of course, there is no relationship really.

Later on GDLA, Terri interviewed Simon and he said he laughed that way because Ryan copies his mannerisms, like when he said 'verrrrrry serious'. True, he did say it in a 'Simon' style.

It was all very odd and was the one time i have seen Simon lose it.

by Anonymousreply 163April 20, 2009 11:17 AM

Hey, or maybe he was just genuinely defending his girlfriend. Girlfriend > coworker.

by Anonymousreply 164April 20, 2009 11:25 AM

There is more genuine puppy eyes from Seacrest in this clip than anything I've seen him display towards Simon.

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by Anonymousreply 165April 20, 2009 11:32 AM

R164, then why did Simon laugh so hard which was very disrespectful towards Terri if she was his real girlfriend?

Ryan was mocking the seriousness of Si/Terri and Simon went along with it and bust a tit laughing.

On the subject of them, Simon and Terri act EXACTLY the same now as they did when they were supposed to be a couple. After a real 6 year r/ship that would not be possible, there is always a slight shift in how you behave around eachother.

Regardless of Ry/Si, i'm 100% sure Terri was a beard.

by Anonymousreply 166April 20, 2009 1:49 PM

Ryan was at the Laker's game yesterday seated next to Jeff Probst. TMZ's gay Harvey Levin was there too. So who is the new man in Ryan's life--Jeff Probst or daddy figure, Harvey Levin?

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by Anonymousreply 167April 20, 2009 2:51 PM

Funny how we are seeing Ryan out and about a lot lately--bartender girlfriend in Paris last week, macho sports lover (at courtside no less) at a Laker's game this week. It seems an all out attempt to ungay Ryan is in force.

by Anonymousreply 168April 20, 2009 3:50 PM

Jeff Probst has always pinged to me!

by Anonymousreply 169April 20, 2009 4:02 PM

Ryan looks so much happier surrounded by these good looking guys than he did walking with the female brunette bartender in Paris last week.

by Anonymousreply 170April 20, 2009 5:42 PM

His hairline is receding.

by Anonymousreply 171April 20, 2009 6:01 PM

It's not because of anything said on DL that I believe Simon and Ryan to have been a couple since first season AI. It's because of their own actions caught on camera in public.

And from what I've seen, I believe Simon to be more vulnerable than Ryan, with Simon he's all facade, but when that facade slips cause he's caught off-guard, it is Simon who is totally in awe of his boyfriend.

Check out the assortment of clips from AI and other times they've been together in public. They easily forget themselves and will touch each other inappropriately (for two male friends) and sometimes say things they shouldn't or shouldn't say or use a particular tone of voice.

But whenever Simon is caught off-guard such as by Ryan's surprising him on the Leno show his eyes light up like he is a little boy who just got even better than what he hoped for as a christmas present.

Remember it was Simon who said he wouldn't go to Africa on behalf of AI unless Ryan agreed to go.

Just about all the moments that have been discussed (and this includes audio excerpts from Ryan's radio show, such as when he says the bit about how in ten years time if it becomes known he and Simon are gay and have been lovers) on this topic and the other related Ryan topics in DL have been compiled under the RYMON heading in YOUTUBE. Even one Rymon labeled for S1 E1 is continuing going into more recent history (evidence).

Sometimes even the music videos - I know, I know - have moments that haven't been collected elsewhere.

So many times on AI particularly the guys are sneakily holding hands in spite of the fact they could be caught on camera. Guys don't touch each other that intimately unless they are intimate with each other.

by Anonymousreply 172April 20, 2009 7:41 PM

I was pretty amazed to read an account from an Entertainment Weekly recapper who mentioned some sneaky goings on between Ryan and Simon during last week's performance night. It seems during a break, Simon called Ryan over to where he sits to whisper something in his ear. Ryan walked over and placed his hand on Simon's thigh, according to the surprised onlooker, while Simon had his mouth on Ryan's ear for some sweet nothing whispers.

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by Anonymousreply 173April 20, 2009 9:12 PM

"Girlfriend > coworker."

Putting aside whether or not Terri is a girlfriend, I just love how you constantly highlight Ryan as a "Co-worker" instead of FRIEND. Anyone else, and I wouldn't think much of it(because he's both), but with you I know it's a constant sore spot.

But guess what? No matter whether or not they are "doing it"...SImon and Ryan are actual FRIENDS who spend time together outside Idol.

FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.

by Anonymousreply 174April 20, 2009 9:57 PM

Probst and Seacrest both look like corpses in that Getty link.

by Anonymousreply 175April 20, 2009 11:36 PM

I knew this thread would peter off once the gf came on the scene.

by Anonymousreply 176April 20, 2009 11:36 PM

I bet Ryan was supposed to take his lovely lady to the Laker game, just like Zac and Vanessa were shown all up in each other's beeswax yesterday. She must've had to go shopping.

by Anonymousreply 177April 20, 2009 11:37 PM

Simon got left out because he's counting his millions from Paula Potts.

by Anonymousreply 178April 20, 2009 11:40 PM

I bet Fox paid to have their popular host sit at ringside to help bolster his wavering het status. What better one/two punch than Ryan with a sexy girl one week, and then going to a manly basketball game the next.

by Anonymousreply 179April 20, 2009 11:56 PM

I find it interesting that he's so friendly with Harvey Levin, whose site TMZ of course had all the photos/vids and played up how het he is and how hot his girlfriend is... Isn't Levin gay? Why would he in him if he wasn't on the take? Or maybe Ryan is straight.

by Anonymousreply 180April 21, 2009 12:42 AM

171, Simon already said he gets plugs. Plus your link is fucked in the head.

by Anonymousreply 181April 21, 2009 12:43 AM

You'd think Simon with all that extra testosterone coursing through his system would be the balding one.

Although all guys lose hair in the place that Seacrest is when they get to be a certain age.

by Anonymousreply 182April 21, 2009 12:44 AM

Ryan isn't balding. For christsakes....

Simon, on the other hand, has a huge bald patch at the back of his head. That's why he shaves that part. Look next time.

by Anonymousreply 183April 21, 2009 1:00 AM

Here's a clip of Ryan with his radio/TV voice turned off. He doesn't often show this side of him, but he lets his guard down most often around Simon. The intro to the Jacksonville auditions comes to mind--not sure which season--but it's when Simon and Ryan were sharing a car and Simon snipped at Ryan to stop talking in his radio voice. Ryan insisted that he always talks like that and Simon said, "Not around me you don't."

by Anonymousreply 184April 21, 2009 1:11 AM

Of course I forgot the link.

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by Anonymousreply 185April 21, 2009 1:12 AM

The guy next to Ryan looks like he's a relative of Simon.

by Anonymousreply 186April 21, 2009 1:12 AM

And I am R184 and R185, not R181.

by Anonymousreply 187April 21, 2009 1:14 AM

The weirdest thing is Probst is supposed to be gay and was once a blind item rumored that mentioned him having had a fling with Ryan back in 2002 or 2003.

I don't believe Ryan is going bald either. The fact Simon would even say that in public means it's not true. Now why Simon says shit in public all the time, esp. about his friend/boyfriend, is what I don't understand.

by Anonymousreply 188April 21, 2009 2:23 AM

I've got to hand it to Seacrest - he didn't bring a beard to one of the primo celebrity couples pimp spots in LA. I wonder if he's decided that's history already. Snaps to him if it is.

by Anonymousreply 189April 21, 2009 3:38 AM

They both trash talk each other - that's nothing new.

by Anonymousreply 190April 21, 2009 3:39 AM

It's no wonder that he has a mellifluous voice, 185 -- it's his living. Of course he spent some of that interview banging on about hot gals who just happen to be tall or married.

by Anonymousreply 191April 21, 2009 3:42 AM

Ryan has it down. The minute he appears too gay, he goes into his frat guy routine on his radio show. When the heat is really on, like the Enquirer outage and his remark on air about his dysfunctional relationship with Simon, he will go into action in a bigger way. Like being highly visible at sporting events and squiring a sexy woman on a shopping spree in Paris with paps suspiciously present. No way will this dude ever come out.

by Anonymousreply 192April 21, 2009 5:48 AM

No shit, 192. Of course he won't, even though I'd bet most people think he's gayer than Christmastime.

by Anonymousreply 193April 21, 2009 5:58 AM

I've never seen him at a Lakers game - at least he didn't bring the beard.

by Anonymousreply 194April 21, 2009 6:00 AM

[italic]he goes into his frat guy routine on his radio show.[/italic]

What does this consist of? Does he demonstrate his technique for eating pussy?

by Anonymousreply 195April 21, 2009 6:17 AM

How the fuck can he come out? He's had his own mother pimping for him, for pete's sake.

by Anonymousreply 196April 21, 2009 7:34 AM

R188, 'talking shit about Simon...' it's called A JOKE! Simon has a very dark, sarcastic sense of humour. I was just reading Piers Morgan's book and he said that one of the reasons he (Piers) and Simon got along was because they have the same SOH and most American's do not understand how 2 friends can take the piss out of each other and be fine with it.

Ryan is also like this with Simon and brings to mind something Si said about Ryan (i think it's in his book) which is that Ryan has a very European SOH.

Whenever Simon 'takes the piss' out of Ryan, it is always done with affection, but if you don't understand Simon's personality then you would think he is being insulting. Simon's character actually softens around Ryan and his eyes light up, which shows that he doesn't really mean the 'insults'.

Nice to hear Simon describing Ryan as 'cute but annoying' on Craig Ferguson show last night. Because all straight guys call their male friends cute.....

by Anonymousreply 197April 21, 2009 8:46 AM

"Because all straight guys call their male friends cute....."

Maybe not their male friends, but their pets they do. In fact, Simon often compares Ryan to a chihuahua who wants to jump on your lap. I am sure he is trying to be funny, but he often comes off very condescending toward Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 198April 21, 2009 8:55 AM

ok so i do agree with you R198, it does sound condescending, but we do not for a fact they are very close friends, so i presume he was trying to be funny.

Simon always trots out these dog comparisons. It's his standard answer when questioned about his relationship with Ryan. I think it actually gives the game away. They spend a lot of time together, including holidays, so why doesn't Simon just say what close friends they are and that he loves spending time with him? Of course because in his mind that would fuel the couple rumours even more.

Nice to see him mix things up this time and compare Ryan to a 'sausage dog'. Wonder what was on his mind there?

by Anonymousreply 199April 21, 2009 9:06 AM

I find it funny that despite all the "saula" being thrown at us during the show, the talk show host still want to talk about his relationship with Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 200April 21, 2009 12:17 PM

Heh, Ryan looked so drunk on this photos from Lakers game. He probably funny when he drunk. And funniest things is to see how he works this whole industry - so cosy with Harvey Levin from TMZ, on the next day did interview with Perez Hilton, people from X17 also have a good relationship with him. He knows that in modern showbiz sources like TMZ, Perez Hilton can... well, make you or break you, but definitely make your life harder or easier. He has a good relationship with him, talk to them on his extremely popular radio show, and they help him in return with his bearding duty.

by Anonymousreply 201April 21, 2009 12:53 PM

I agree he looks pretty drunk at the game. I have seen him look similarly when caught out on the town by the paps. He needs to be careful because living a lie often leads to substance abuse.

by Anonymousreply 202April 21, 2009 2:28 PM

Simon was harsh on Ryan on Craig Ferguson's show. I know they always joke about each other, and for me it's usually the best part of their separate interviews, but man, Simon was really cold. First when he mentioned Ryan when they were talking about people who coming to town, want a lot, are not very talented, but still successful, then said "replace me with Ryan, and let's see what happens" about his judging position on Idol. I don't really consider this same old doggy comparison, Simon said it so many times before, that I starting to think he's in dire need of new scriptwriters. But this two remarks seemed oddly cold for him, and this is unusual, because while he likes to joke about Ryan, usually he does it with affection and humour.

And I doubt Ryan is happy with this jokes, because although he usually loves to be a subject of humour, absolutely fine when people joke about him, his height, looks, sexuality, compare him to dogs and so on, I believe one thing he takes very close to the heart - when people talk about how he's not very good at his job. And Simon basically said it when he mentioned Ryan as an example of a person who is not talented, but successful.

By the way, anybody knows - is this show live? I mean Craig ferguson's show.

Link to the interview.

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by Anonymousreply 203April 21, 2009 2:36 PM

R-202, maybe he can't drink? There are some people who can drink very little, but still get very drunk and act weird in the result.

by Anonymousreply 204April 21, 2009 2:58 PM

Thanks, R-203, for the link.

After viewing it, here is my take:

He needs a new scriptwriter because the dog comparison is getting old. It is funny how he can't sit down for more than a minute before Simon himself brings up Ryan--which is the launching pad for the dog comparison shtick we have heard a hundred times. Probably at Fox's behest, Simon had to set (um) straight how this is nothing more than a parasitic relationship with a needy person who looks up to Simon. I didn't pick up anything cold from Simon. He was essentially doing his job of distancing himself from the rumors.

by Anonymousreply 205April 21, 2009 3:00 PM

He would do better job if he wouldn't mention Ryan at all. He mentioned Ryan without Ferguson's help or hints from him. Ferguson asked about Ryan only after Simon mentioned him couple of times in a negative light. Silence is a much better way of shutting down the rumours.

by Anonymousreply 206April 21, 2009 4:07 PM

The moment that I decided they're fucking and have been for a long time was on Leno, when Ryan said Simon reminded him of his dad. It was SO awkward, uncomfortable, and bordering on desperate that something just clicked with me. Even Simon would call that protesting too much, and he's the bigger Ophelia of the pair!

by Anonymousreply 207April 21, 2009 4:16 PM

Can anyone find a link of the recent Leno appearance? There were a bunch on YouTube a few weeks ago, but now I can't find them. I also can't find the previous Leno appearance where Ryan surprised Simon and they were kind of all over each other. Do publicists have the power to get these things taken down?

by Anonymousreply 208April 21, 2009 4:26 PM

Link to the recent appearance. I never saw their old appearance, when Ryan surpised Simon, only glimpces in the different videos. And there is another one, where Ryan and Simon were together from the beginning and REALLY were all over each other. Can find a link if you want.

And I think it has nothing to do with publicists - it's action of NBC and other networks to put this videos down from youtube.

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by Anonymousreply 209April 21, 2009 4:34 PM

It's much easier to assume they are fucking. If they are just friends then i have never come across such a mutually obsessed friendship complete with sexual overtones in all my life.

Can you imagine being their partner's if they are not together? You would basically have to settle for being the second most important person in their life. Or perhaps 3rd, after their mothers.

by Anonymousreply 210April 21, 2009 4:44 PM

Thanks for the link, 209. I love the moment where Ryan says, "What are you talking about? You just whitened your teeth today." It reminds me of the way couples tease each other when they're with other people.

If you can find a link of the earlier Leno appearance, I'd love to see it.

by Anonymousreply 211April 21, 2009 4:55 PM

R-211, Here you can find the link to Leno from the last year.

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by Anonymousreply 212April 21, 2009 5:35 PM

Thanks, R212! Yeah, they're fucking.

by Anonymousreply 213April 21, 2009 5:59 PM

There is a very good Ryan's fan site with recaps of his radio show (and news about him). People who created and support this site are british, and when they recap his radio shows, they sometimes mention some Ryan's words or phrases that made them laugh, and say that only british people can get it, and that Ryan is definitely spending a lot of time with brits.

Link is to the latest example.

And also judging by this recaps and some audio clips from the show, it seems like Ryan was bullied pretty horribly when he was a kid.

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by Anonymousreply 214April 21, 2009 6:24 PM

About this puppet story from sixth season - in my opinion, Ryan definitely was talking about Terri and the fact that her relationsip with Simon is a sham. He said to Paula "We saw his puppet and you're much prettier" - and what else he could be talking about? Somebody said he talked about Simon's penis - but c'mon, why would he compare penis with Paula in terms of prettiness? It doesn't make sense at all. I think it was another example of mindfuckery that was typical for them in sixth season - he wanted to humiliate Simon, and Terri was caught in the crossfire. Ryan probably hurted her, but I don't think it mattered for him.

Simon's reaction, on the other hand, was insanely interesting. He looked completely lost for some time, but not really offended, more amused. And judging by his reaction to Ryan's words about how serious his relationships with Terri are (i.e. insane sincere long laughter), he was in a very good mood.

Either way, this whole episode was extremely fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 215April 21, 2009 7:19 PM

R-215, I can't believe Ryan would diss Terri's looks, since Simon, Terri & Ryan have even gone on vacations together and have always been chummy. I think it was a reference to Simon's uncut dick and Ryan is sneaky in that way. Remember when he introduced Simon as the prick and paused a beat before adding the 'ly.'

by Anonymousreply 216April 21, 2009 8:49 PM

Simon should realize that americans don't get his sense of humor and that he (supposedly) means the opposite of what he is saying... at least in re Ryan.

Just this week at work someone was asking about Cowell's double-duty of AI and BGT and someone else said that it's obvious Cowell really hates Ryan. She said this based upon remarks Cowell said about him. She flat out stated you cannot like someone and say what he'd said. And I know other people who have the same POV.

And there are many people in this country who detest Ryan because they love Simon and figure if Simon hates him, "then so do I." They have no respect for Ryan, figuring he is a lucky talentless SOB, and don't realize he's what best holds AI together.

That's all they know, is from what Simon - and Kathy Griffin, too - says.

In the long run, Simon and Ryan are not doing themselves any favors. They are despised within the gay community for being closeted homophobic queens. And if they are outed, they will be despised for having resided in the closet for so long.

by Anonymousreply 217April 21, 2009 9:01 PM

And he said to Paula "You're much prettier (then dick)"? Sorry, but it really doesn't make sense at all. Maybe he wasn't talking about Terri (although I suspect he was - we don't know what kind of relationship they really had at that point, and I'm sure that for Ryan opportunity to bring down Simon for once is more important then Terri's hurted feelings), but I'm sure it got nothing to do with dicks, uncut or not. Moment with prick... ly was actually funny. This situation, if you imagine he was talking about dick, is completely idiotic. "We've seen (he said "we", actually, and I doubt many people in Idol's audience saw Simon's dick) his puppet, and you're much prettier". It's absolutely senseless if he really meant dick, and while Ryan could be silly, he wouldn't say anything like that.

by Anonymousreply 218April 21, 2009 9:06 PM

Maybe he meant himself.

by Anonymousreply 219April 21, 2009 9:14 PM

When he said "we've all seen his puppet (dick)" I am pretty sure it was in the same vein as when Paula said words to this effect, "we've all (meaning the AI team) slept with Ryan and he isn't gay". You can't take what any of them say seriously.

by Anonymousreply 220April 21, 2009 9:15 PM

But compare it to Paula? Okey, we would never know what really he was talking about, so there is no point in arguing.

by Anonymousreply 221April 21, 2009 9:18 PM

I'm sure he'd rather die than call himself Simon's puppet. It's even less believable that version with dick.

by Anonymousreply 222April 21, 2009 9:21 PM

They looked pretty cosy with Probst on the game. Their legs were pressed together on almost all of the photos.

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by Anonymousreply 223April 21, 2009 9:25 PM

Pretty sure Fox bought Ryan's ticket to be seen court side at a manly sporting event instead of getting snapped leaving a tanning parlor.Also, better to be photographed sitting next to Probst than frolicking on jet skiis in the Caribbean with Cowell.

by Anonymousreply 224April 21, 2009 10:40 PM

Maybe he really is with Probst - talk about your longterm relationships.

by Anonymousreply 225April 21, 2009 11:39 PM

"Simon was harsh on Ryan on Craig Ferguson's show. I know they always joke about each other, and for me it's usually the best part of their separate interviews, but man, Simon was really cold"

Oh, fuck off troll(yes, I know it's you). You are getting more pathetic by the post.

"He's cute..."

Yeah. Real cold. :p

by Anonymousreply 226April 21, 2009 11:41 PM

How many times do some of you people need to be reminded to not feed the troll?

How to spot the troll? Any poster talking about Ryan going out with a skanky female or having a relationship with any male other than Simon. The troll does not want Simon to be gay.

As for Simon on the Ferguson show, he was very mischievous and clearly 'taking the piss out of Ryan'--to borrow a Brit expression. Ryan does the same to Simon on his radio show and in interviews. They don't mind being teased, why do people here care and natter on about it?

by Anonymousreply 227April 21, 2009 11:55 PM

The most amusing thing about SImon's "Ryan = Dog" reference is Simons LOVE of dogs. Especially little ones. Every time someone trots one into an audition room or something, Simon always brings it on his lap and cuddles it and gives it kisses. Someone should bring that up and ask him if he does that to Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 228April 22, 2009 12:27 AM

The proof's in the pudding. Ryan is seen with skanky girls, and I'm sure that British self-help woman put all those pics of him up on her blog in connection to Simon precisely because they're just friends and nothing more.... why would she do it if they're trying to hide their relationship?

by Anonymousreply 229April 22, 2009 12:31 AM

All right everybody -- keep your eyes peeled!

by Anonymousreply 230April 22, 2009 12:57 AM

"Someone should bring that up and ask him if he does that to Ryan."

I could just see Leno asking--he is getting so brazen these days, God love him.

by Anonymousreply 231April 22, 2009 1:57 AM

Seacrest was laying the heavy innuendo on Adam tonight during the intro, and Adam was laying it right back with his raised eyebrow and knowing expression. "Are you ready to do it?" Seacrest said, looking right at him. What a fucking slut!

by Anonymousreply 232April 22, 2009 2:15 AM

Ryan was also drinking out of Kara's cup with her straw and eyeing Vince Neill's girlfriend in the audience. He LOVES the ladies.

by Anonymousreply 233April 22, 2009 2:17 AM

Simon sneered at Ryan's pretty in pink comment.

by Anonymousreply 234April 22, 2009 2:25 AM

R-226 t

No, I'm not a troll, and I absolutely sure that Ryan and Simon are lovers, and I think you should stop calling trolls everybody who disagrees with you. I just stated my opinion on this interview, and I think Simon was harsh on Ryan. You going to deny he practically called him talentless?

by Anonymousreply 235April 22, 2009 2:28 AM

So if the troll is right that they are on the outs, how long will they stay angry before they kiss and makeup again--since this has been their pattern for about 8 years now.

by Anonymousreply 236April 22, 2009 2:35 AM

Adam had a huge smile on his face after Seacrest asked him if he was ready to "do it." Do the contestants and judges/Ryan see each other outside of the competition?

by Anonymousreply 237April 22, 2009 3:37 AM

I agree with whoever said Seacrest's AI makeup person must hate him. He looked SO much better, for example, during his America's Top 40 segment.

by Anonymousreply 238April 22, 2009 3:38 AM

R-238

He usually looks very good in random pictures and photos from radio (recent photos with Probst doesn't count, cause I suspect he was drunk out of his mind), but on Idol he looks like something from the wax museum. He should rock the stubble on Idol more often.

by Anonymousreply 239April 22, 2009 3:42 AM

He's called Ryan "talentless" before. Nothing new. All part of the shtick.

And I don't think everyone that disagrees is a troll.

I just KNOW it's you. It could not be more fucking obvious. You think you can disguise yourself very well don't you? But you can't.

One big "tell"? You posts in like bursts of four or five posts. Could not be more crystal clear that you are R-232-236.

And for being "on the outs" he spent a good deal of time giggling and smiling at Ryan during Paula's critiques.

by Anonymousreply 240April 22, 2009 3:43 AM

He didn't have stubble on the top 40 thing, and dare I say it, looked almost angelic.

I think it's a combo of weird lighting, bad makeup, and infrequent sexual activity.

by Anonymousreply 241April 22, 2009 3:44 AM

Well, if you KNOW I'm the troll, you definitely should think again. From the posts you mentioned I wrote only one - r-235, and only because it was addressed to me. And I never ever said they were on the outs. I thought Simon's words about Ryan in this interview were cold and harsh, he mentioned Ryan almost from the very beginning, without prompting from Ferguson, who, by the way, jokes about Ryan non-stop on his show, and he mentioned him in very negative light, more negative than he usually does. Maybe it was nothing, but I can't imagine Ryan taking comments about his lack of talent (from Simon) all that easy. But again, their relationship are so fucked up, so maybe he takes it easy, but it's not a very good sign for his self-appraisal.

And by the way, troll's posts are very short and mocking, he doesn't believe in this relationship at all. I just don't believe this relationship is easy, cutesy and adorable.

And yes, this fucking troll is really annoying, but in this case you're barking on the wrong tree.

by Anonymousreply 242April 22, 2009 4:12 AM

Ryan looked P.O.'d on the show. No cocksucking this evening for him.

by Anonymousreply 243April 22, 2009 4:34 AM

P.O.'d?

by Anonymousreply 244April 22, 2009 4:36 AM

So if they fuck in the car, where do you think they go? The garage? The beach? Inspiration Point?

by Anonymousreply 245April 22, 2009 4:37 AM

Ryan don't do drugs so you queens leave him alone.

He is the new Merv Griffin.

That is next to sainthood.

by Anonymousreply 246April 22, 2009 5:00 AM

Ryan don't do drugs so you queens leave him alone.

He is the new Merv Griffin.

That is next to sainthood.

by Anonymousreply 247April 22, 2009 5:01 AM

Thank you Merv's old house/pool boy at 246/7.

by Anonymousreply 248April 22, 2009 5:39 AM

What kinds of sexual acts do you think Merv required little Ryan to perform? Cocksucking for sure, but what else?

by Anonymousreply 249April 22, 2009 5:45 AM

Bringing this thread back to rational order.

After viewing tonight's show, I saw no Ryan and Adam connection, no sneering from Simon toward Ryan's remark about pretty in pink, no overt flirting between Simon and Paula nor Simon and Ryan. In fact, I saw a professional show that Ryan kept moving like a locomotive so they would finish on time.

Conclusion: all is well in the Ryan/ Simon household.

by Anonymousreply 250April 22, 2009 5:51 AM

You missed it during the intro, 250. The Ryan/Adam thing was short and sweet but oh so blatant.

by Anonymousreply 251April 22, 2009 5:53 AM

And Ryan and Simon cannot have a household as the two do not live together and most likely never will.

by Anonymousreply 252April 22, 2009 5:54 AM

Words like "affair" and "fling" bandied about in blind items do not connote a relationship of great depth or longevity.

by Anonymousreply 253April 22, 2009 6:20 AM

Believe what you want. I believe they have a solid dysfunctional but satisfying relationship that is more on than off these days.

by Anonymousreply 254April 22, 2009 7:22 AM

I believe that Simon is all about that extremely overexposed Susan Boyle right now, and couldn't care less about American Idol.

by Anonymousreply 255April 22, 2009 7:37 AM

R-250 is absolutely right. Show was like a well oiled machine, and Ryan was ON! He was sharp, fast, calm and funny (sorry, but "woman with good work ethic" and "pool of Abdul" got me rolling). People on Twitter said he gave great speech at some charity event and he finished day with "Seacrest out". Don't know about Simon/Ryan household, but Ryan definitely was in a good mood today, and I believe that Simon is very crucial for his mood.

by Anonymousreply 256April 22, 2009 8:13 AM

"Seacrest out"

That's a blast from the past. 0.0001% chance of it ever happening.

by Anonymousreply 257April 22, 2009 8:35 AM

What's this shit about Probst? Isn't he straight? I thought he's engaged to some really young girl who was contestant on Survivor (by the way, really classy, mister Probst).

by Anonymousreply 258April 22, 2009 9:13 AM

As a Brit, can i just say that Simon's humour is completely typical of how we operate. We all take the piss out of our friends and even family. It's a sarcastic humour and one which doesn't seem to sit well with Americans.

I've heard Simon say that he only acts that way with people he likes and that if he is uncomfortable around someone or doesn't like them, he won't say anything at all.

The 'insults' are Simon's way of poking fun at Ryan and being affectionate.

I'm no big Cowell supporter, but i just wanted to point out that his behaviour is very typically British and should not be taken as insulting.

After Susan Boyle's performance, Simon said something about knowing she was going to sing like that from the moment he saw her. Of course, he was only messing around, but American's seem to take everything he says as gospel, when in fact he often means the opposite to what he is saying.

Ryan understands Simon and his humour. In fact Ryan is also very sharp and cutting himself. Not sure if he was always like this or if he picked it up from Simon, but i can see that's why they get on so well.

by Anonymousreply 259April 22, 2009 10:36 AM

Half of Simon's family are Jewish, on his dad's side. There is a good chance he is cut.

I only wish i could confirm this.

by Anonymousreply 260April 22, 2009 11:28 AM

Ryan and Simon didn't say a word to each other, except for introduction, on today's show. Man, I miss last season.

by Anonymousreply 261April 22, 2009 11:46 AM

R261 that's because they fucked up with the 4th judge and can't afford Fox execs screaming at them for over running anymore.

I miss the old days of Ryan/Simon banter. I wish i actually watched Idol for the singers.

by Anonymousreply 262April 22, 2009 1:10 PM

So truth, 262. And they truly fucked up with Kara. I kind of like her, she's much better judge than Randy or Paula (although Paula is more entertaining), but she ruined balanced dynamic of the show. And I have no idea how they going to deal with Top 3 this season - are they going to change usual format of picking the songs (by judge, producer and contestant himself)?

And funny thing is - I rememeber reading some Idol boards, and dumb people complaining endlessly about Simon being too harsh, Ryan being rude to poor Simon, two of them talking too much, bantering and fighting too much. None of it was on today's show - and in the result it was dull and boring as dirty dishwash water.

by Anonymousreply 263April 22, 2009 1:24 PM

R263 agree with last comment. I think the Ryan/Simon banter is what saves Idol from being just another reality show.

Obviously most people watch for the singers, but it's nice to see some personality and spark between Simon and Ryan. Paula brings the wackiness and Kara's comments are valid. Maybe it's time for Randy to go, what does he actually contribute? It's unfair to bash Kara when Randy rarely offers anything constructive and if he does, it's because he's copying a Simon quote like 'indulgent', Randy's new favourite word.

I'd rather go back to 3 judges and have more time for the banter, it is an entertainment show after all and a don't like Ryan being sidelined just to hear the 4th critique repeat what the other 3 have just said.

by Anonymousreply 264April 22, 2009 2:49 PM

Watching that Craig Ferguson tape, I bet Simon is regretting buying that LA house. His heart is in England and with his English shows.

by Anonymousreply 265April 22, 2009 2:51 PM

Regret buying the house?!

Right, because it's such a hardship being one of the very few Brits to make it big time in America, lol.

He's been revamping that house for years and i'd lay good money on his next show being in the US - he hinted at that on C.F, but could not go into details.

Whether he is on Idol or not, he is not going to walk away from being on TV in America. His ego is way too big for that. He loves the UK because it's his home but it's small fry compared to being a star in the US.

by Anonymousreply 266April 22, 2009 3:06 PM

I would love to know whose idea it was for the 4th judge. It wouldn't surprise me if it was none other than Simon's.

Simon loves to change things up because he has a short attention span. I also suspect he hasn't always been thrilled when Ryan throws questions at him, especially when he isn't prepared with a stock answer.

Wasn't it the year before last when Simon told Ryan "you do the links, Sweetheart," insinuating that Ryan should just be a host and not try to nose into everything as if it were his own show.

I agree with those above who say their interaction gave the show an extra spark and made you feel it was really live and not a well-oiled machine like so many other boring reality shows. Plus, they are witty and each can hold his own. In other words, their interaction has been one of AIs great natural resources, but this year it has been woefully underutilized due to time constraints.

by Anonymousreply 267April 22, 2009 3:07 PM

This thread needs to get dirty.

Ryan. Simon.

Who's bigger? Who tops? What kinks do they have?

I'd say they are about equal, but Simon has more girth. Ryan - mainly bottom, Simon - versatile. I reckon Simon likes dress up and tying Ryan up.

And of course they fuck in cars.

Simon's fantasy is to mount Ryan on a jet ski.

by Anonymousreply 268April 22, 2009 3:14 PM

R-268, c'mon Ryan, you don't need to be anonymous here among friends. Did they close your Twitter account?

by Anonymousreply 269April 22, 2009 3:20 PM

Hmm, okey, don't get angry at me, I'm just a messenger, but Ryan just started interview with Neil Patrick Harris with admission that his sunday morning started with Jeff Probst at his house. Don't think it mean anything - if it did, he would never say anything like that on the air. But still... admissions like that definitely doesn't help him to prove his total heterosexuality.

by Anonymousreply 270April 22, 2009 4:13 PM

Indulgent Rubbish.

by Anonymousreply 271April 22, 2009 4:23 PM

Oh no. Ryan is two timing Simon and the lady bartender?

by Anonymousreply 272April 22, 2009 5:15 PM

Fuuuuuuck ooooooof.

Damn.

Please Webmaster. END IT for this person.

by Anonymousreply 273April 22, 2009 6:28 PM

Link to interview with Harris - Probst part aside, still very funny. Ryan for few minutes talked about his insane crush on Jason Segel, begged Neil to say good word about him to Jason, and later did interview for charity with woman who does his eyebrows. Typical day of totally straight radio host.

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by Anonymousreply 274April 22, 2009 6:46 PM

"His heart is in England and with his English shows."

His heart is wherever he makes the most money. And any idiot knows that there is more money to made in America. Listening to recent interviews makes me think he is sick of being the "small cheese" at Idol. He doesn't really have the power on Idol or Fox, and I think it's what he's angling for.

by Anonymousreply 275April 22, 2009 6:47 PM

Anyone else think Fox will give Simon anything he wants--including a chance to have more power behind the scenes--just to keep their biggest star?

by Anonymousreply 276April 22, 2009 6:52 PM

I think Simon is in a bad place this week. With Ryan having spent time in Paris then at a game with gay Probst of all people, could be Simon is feeling neglected as it cuts in on personal time between him and Ryan and maybe he's worried Ryan will find a new BF. Simon is not getting any younger, and there might be new pressures they are under since they feel more in danger of being outed and facing those consequences.

I agree Simon was sensitive to the "pretty in pink" comment Ryan made, as I was surprised by that as it was such an innocuous comment, but maybe Simon is feeling sensitive to even implied criticism by Ryan at this point.

Also, I noticed a couple of weeks back that Adam is crushing on Ryan and maybe Simon is picking up on that too. I doubt Adam is Ryan's type, but naturally he appreciates another gay man crushing on him. Ryan is way too smart to get involved with Adam during the competition phase, even if he was attracted to him.

The time constraints on these damn performance shows aren't good for Ryan-Simon banter.

The opportunity for some Rymon interaction last night is when Ryan showed up at the judges table and Simon pushed his chair back in expectation, but instead Ryan took a sip from Kara's cup, and Simon might have wished it were his own cup. Simon is very openly possessive nowadays and with their downtime I can see him being insecure.

What the hell was in Kara's cup she and Randy were making a big deal of it? Ryan was only doing the obligatory commercial for Coke after all.

Plus it didn't help Simon's mood when Paula outed him. (Weird stuff always goes down when Kris is facing the judges, I have no idea why.) Simon was being a dick, she outed him, and then Simon was more of a dick by trying to say she was accusing Kris of wearing women's underwear when he knew very well what she was saying, but he was trying to deflect the attention from himself which makes him a real asshole, IMO. I don't normally like Paula, but I thought she won this round and Simon was stupid.

by Anonymousreply 277April 22, 2009 7:16 PM

I think both Simon and especially Ryan were in a good mood on the last show. Although they didn't interacted on the show, they exchanged glances and words - during Paula's rambling Simon kept looking and mouthing words in Ryan's direction.

And I got to agree on Adam's crush part - I actually felt it too, Adam always staring on Ryan when he give his numbers, and very often licks his lips. But I doubt Simon is threatened by him.

by Anonymousreply 278April 22, 2009 7:32 PM

I don't know what you mean when you say Paula outed Simon, R277. That's not what I took away from the conversation about women's underwear, but if I missed something I'd love to hear it.

I don't think we can make too many assumptions about insecurity in Simon and Ryan's relationship; we really don't have enough to go on. And there's a lot we don't see, even during the show. The moment you mentioned, where Ryan was walking behind the judges' table and took a sip out of Kara's cup? Right after that, he got to Simon and rested his arm on the back of Simon's chair, and the camera cut to the performance. It looked like it might be heading toward one of those moments of "let's find a way to discreetly touch each other without anyone noticing." Or it may have been nothing.

But if a bunch of people, all looking for evidence that Simon and Ryan are fucking each other, all watched the show and came away with totally different ideas of what signified what, I think it's clear that we can't draw too many conclusions.

by Anonymousreply 279April 22, 2009 7:38 PM

I think 277 was talking about the fact that Paula actually said that it's Simon who likes to wear women's clothes and underwear, and Simon, looking super-annoyed, made everybody believe she was talking about Kris. By the way, Paula actually scares me with her permanent smile, black dead eyes and her criticism that get's more insane with every day.

by Anonymousreply 280April 22, 2009 7:57 PM

I recently caught part of a season 5 episode, and I totally forgot how coherent and surprisingly smart Abdul was. What a shame.

by Anonymousreply 281April 22, 2009 8:44 PM

For the hell of it, an astrological analysis of Libra (Simon) and Capricorn (Ryan) in a love relationship. Actually, this sounds spot on. I think we can take for granted they have a common purpose or destiny to form a long term association :-) --- This combination of Libra with Capricorn cannot easily combine as there should be some common purpose or destiny to form long term association. Capricorns are not demonstrative and do not openly indicate warmth of love and affection which Libra needs. Libra enjoys ease, luxury and self-indulgence. Capricorn takes life seriously, shoulders responsibility and can cope with austerity much better than Libra. Capricorn should remember that sharing love, affection and beautiful things is as vital to Libra as food and water. These two will support each other through thick and thin and the longer their liaison lasts, the better it will become.

And because they're both cardinal creatures , they'll understand each other's ambitions. The Libran expects the Capricorn to leap on to a bend knee every now and then. The Capricorn's love may be there under the surface, but it might not be tender enough for the delicate digestion of the Libran lover

by Anonymousreply 282April 22, 2009 8:45 PM

I don't think Simon was the person behind decision to invite fourth judge - he knew from the beginning that his time on the show will be limited in the result, and he wouldn't wanted it. I think he's very vain person, who likes to be center of attention, so I doubt he wanted to change anything.

But I'm sure he wants as much power as possible on Idol - after Lythgoe was fired after last season, Simon actually said in the interview that it could mean he'll be more involved in the show behind the scenes. I don't know if it's happened or not, but either way result is not very good. I think show is seriously struggling without Nigel.

And yes, producers and Fuller and FOX will sign any contract, give him any money and power to keep him on the show. The thing I liked about Ferguson's interview is how Simon started his whiny "too hard to do so many shows, and don't know if I'll be bach after next season", and Craig immediately said "Oh, you're in negotiations about new contract". So funny and so truth.

by Anonymousreply 283April 22, 2009 9:02 PM

I don't put stock in astrology, but I will say that uber responsible and ambitious Ryan does fit the Capricorn description. In fact, he keeps himself so busy I doubt he feels any emotions very deeply toward anyone except his mother, maybe.

That is one of the reasons people in general don't care for Ryan. He has a fake smile and seems insincere. He will be your best friend one moment and forget you the next.

As nasty as Simon seems on TV, I think Ryan is the one who makes the relationship dysfunctional because he gives little time to a relationship on purpose. He is a machine that functions on all cylinders when he is in job mode. But when set on people mode, he sputters and finds out he isn't perfect--something a good machine can't handle.

by Anonymousreply 284April 22, 2009 9:07 PM

R-284, I don't know, I never got this impression from Ryan. Well, I don't want to present him as loving the whole world and caring about everybody - he, without doubt, is a big user and ambitious little bitch when needed, but I think he's completely cold and unemotional. He seems like very closed (not only in the closet) person, but I bet anything that he deeply truly cares about Simon. As for time for relationship - don't forget, Simon is also a workaholic. He works as much as Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 285April 22, 2009 9:35 PM

"but I don't think he's completely...."

by Anonymousreply 286April 22, 2009 9:37 PM

In early seasons, Ryan touched the contestants a lot - arms around each other, etc. Then, it tapered off completely, almost as if he was told not to touch or hug anyone. Last night, he was touching Adam like crazy. He rested his hand on his leg, his arm, etc. Anyone else notice?

by Anonymousreply 287April 22, 2009 10:37 PM

Oh, come on. Ryan's never stopped being touchy feely with the contestants...

by Anonymousreply 288April 22, 2009 10:43 PM

Touchy feeley does not a warm person make.

by Anonymousreply 289April 22, 2009 11:13 PM

Ryan shouldn't be too upset over rumors about him, what with him broadcasting the rumor that Britney Spears is pregnant on his radio show. Denied by her people, of course.

by Anonymousreply 290April 23, 2009 12:36 AM

Seacrest seems so seriously damaged in some fundamental way.

by Anonymousreply 291April 23, 2009 12:36 AM

Simon is the same somehow - his habit of constantly touching his face, really in overdrive during the first part of the Craig Ferguson interview, indicates loads of anxiety. They probably share Lexapro prescriptions.

by Anonymousreply 292April 23, 2009 12:38 AM

Agree, R-291. On his radio show, why does he tell his listeners about crushing on a male star, or discuss a certain male celebs physical attributes and also make comments about how it would be funny if it comes out in 10 years that he and Simon are gay and in a relationship, then blatantly say he is a straight man?

Is he in denial or is he on one of his jobs so many hours each day that his viewers and listeners are his only friends and he can't keep his gay thoughts to himself?

by Anonymousreply 293April 23, 2009 12:47 AM

He seems like someone who needs the attention and money, but seriously damaged?

He is in his 30's so we are not going to see any Lohan/Spears meltdown. If anything, he seems focused and determined. Possibly in the closet, but that's way off from declaring him damaged in some fundamental way.

by Anonymousreply 294April 23, 2009 12:57 AM

Yeah, that baffles me, too, r293. If he wants to stay closeted, why throw so much gay stuff out there? I guess he's trying to project "straight man who's secure enough in his sexuality to make jokes." But I don't think he's quite pulling it off...

by Anonymousreply 295April 23, 2009 1:00 AM

Does Jay Leno talk about his pedicures and hair products? Does David Letterman talk about having male crushes? I don't see how talking that way would make anyone think Ryan is secure in his manhood. Quite the contrary.

I can only wonder that he never hangs out at length with straight men to know how to really act straight.

by Anonymousreply 296April 23, 2009 1:15 AM

Didn't he say once that he's not a good actor?

by Anonymousreply 297April 23, 2009 1:35 AM

Seacrest blabbing to NPH about Probst proves that he and Cowell aren't together. That was Seacrest's oblique way of saying that most Hollywood rumors are bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 298April 23, 2009 1:46 AM

R-290, who cares - it's show business, sometimes rumours are truth, sometimes they don't. Only obsessive Spears's fans were bothered by it, but this poor assholes were through so much shit that I can't help but feel sorry for them.

And Ryan many times said he's fine with rumours about him, including gay rumours.

by Anonymousreply 299April 23, 2009 1:48 AM

Yes, he crushed rumours about him and Simon... with self-confessed rumour about him and Probst. Yeah, right.

by Anonymousreply 300April 23, 2009 1:51 AM

That shows he's secure in his heterosexuality.

by Anonymousreply 301April 23, 2009 1:52 AM

This is the video that convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt that Ryan and Simon have *some* kind of sexual history together. Someone posted it on another thread, but I'll link to it here.

It's very quick and subtle, but watch the interaction between the two of them at about 0:22 seconds in. Ryan licks his lips, and Simon responds by licking his own and giving Ryan a salacious look.

It doesn't appear to be one of their "messing around for the cameras" things; in fact, I don't think they thought they were on camera at all. The clip is a few years old, so it doesn't speak to the question of who Ryan's dating now: Simon, Jeff Probst, pantyhose-and-shorts lady or someone else completely, and it doesn't prove anything about the exact nature or length of the relationship. But it makes it absolutely clear that these guys have had sex at some point, whatever the rest of the situation might be.

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by Anonymousreply 302April 23, 2009 2:04 AM

Ryan's gonna go mad over K.C.'s backup dancers!

by Anonymousreply 303April 23, 2009 2:28 AM

Because of you, Terri, he would never be secure in his heterosexuality.

by Anonymousreply 304April 23, 2009 2:30 AM

Paula had her tongue in the exact same place Simon did a little later on in that vid - was she in on it too?

by Anonymousreply 305April 23, 2009 2:31 AM

Bitch, please.

There are much better straws to grasp.

by Anonymousreply 306April 23, 2009 3:06 AM

People saying they seriously bitchslapped each other on the show - is it truth? What happened? I was talking about Ryan and Simon.

by Anonymousreply 307April 23, 2009 3:36 AM

1. Caught Cowell actually looking at Abdul's tits once (had thought that was just Ryan bullshit bullshitting)

2. Cowell ALL over Paula again tonight.

3. Hugely warm look from Ryan to Adam and back again during elimination. Wow.

by Anonymousreply 308April 23, 2009 3:39 AM

Yes, R303, he is quite the heterosexual. He likes the scantily clad ladies. Thanks for weighing in. Your meds will be here soon.

by Anonymousreply 309April 23, 2009 3:40 AM

No, 307, it was nothing they haven't played out 1,000 times before.

by Anonymousreply 310April 23, 2009 3:40 AM

Ryan asked Simon what he meant by calling Danny's performance "clumsy." Simon said, "You know what clumsy is, Ryan" and Ryan said something to the effect of "Yeah, that's my whole career" then asked Simon to explain the word as it applies to Danny. Simon then said, "You're being facetious Ryan, go back to the contestants." Ryan: "Okay, grumpy." A minute later he said something about Simon not having had his nap today. Simon laughed heartily. It wasn't really anything dramatic. Ryan actually seemed unfazed.

by Anonymousreply 311April 23, 2009 3:52 AM

R-308 is so transparent. This is the same poster who has an OCD regarding Simon and Paula. He/she tries to show that Ryan is attracted to anything (man, woman or beast) other than "straight" Simon, which would support the delusion that Simon and ditsy Paula are the ones having the long term albeit secret relationship. Lol.

by Anonymousreply 312April 23, 2009 4:16 AM

You amateur detectives missed another Simon staring at Ryan and sexily running his tongue around inside his lips moment, but I won't point out when.

by Anonymousreply 313April 23, 2009 5:50 AM

^this evening

by Anonymousreply 314April 23, 2009 5:50 AM

R-302

I usually take all this talks about salacious looks with grant of salt, but it definitely was interesting moment. Or maybe it's just a coincidence and they both felt the urge to lick their lips at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 315April 23, 2009 5:59 AM

Thank you, R-311.

by Anonymousreply 316April 23, 2009 6:00 AM

Coming back to the topic of Ryan, I think he's main problem (and thing that distinguish him from Simon, who are much happier person) is the fact that he wants to be liked by everybody (or by as much people as possible). And in the same time he wants to have every job, be ubiquitous and hide his sexuality in the closet - and that's the reasons why some people dislike him. He can't have it both ways, and I guess, struggles because of it. Simon can say any outrageous thing, and people will be "Meh, it's just Simon being Simon". But if Ryan says something even relatively negative or questionable, public is tearing him apart.

by Anonymousreply 317April 23, 2009 6:25 AM

this thread = broken fucking record

by Anonymousreply 318April 23, 2009 6:27 AM

I watched elimination episode, and I think it was surprisingly good show. Ryan is definitely on this week, I suspect he finished the show even earlier, and he didn't look as orange and unnatural as he did on the last few shows. This fake tan just makes him look ugly, have no idea why he uses it.

As for Ryan and Simon - I was 307 and asked question about their supposed fight, because I was reading spoilers on boards ant twitter, and people keep talking about how Simon is such a huge asshole, he was so rude to Ryan, OMG, or even worse - gloating about how Simon owned this loser Seacrest. And now I watched, and damn - most people are fucking idiots with no comprehension skills whatsoever. Yes, Simon could be really cruel to Ryan, but last night his remarks were harmless and even oddly affectionate. They both seemed to be in a very good mood, and I liked how Ryan silently begged him to say something nice to Lil when she was eliminated.

Overall, it was surprisingly feel good show for a double elimination. And I got to give props to Paula - she looked very good, sober and collected on the show and in her clip.

by Anonymousreply 319April 23, 2009 8:35 AM

Sometimes I think Ryan loves to feed this gay rumours. This Neil Patrick Harris interview was hysterical. He asked openly gay Harris for stamp of approval on the man he chose for himself (i.e. Jason Segel), and Neil was like "WHOA! Awkward".

What straight guy does it?

by Anonymousreply 320April 23, 2009 8:49 AM

Thank you R319, lack of 'comprehension' is very true. I'm sick of all these people that misread the Simon/Ryan banter and in particular Simon's comments. He was clearly being affectionate with Ryan and both enjoyed the exchange. Ryan's comments about him being grumpy and needing a nap just sounded like how any man bats away his boyfriend being grouchy. They were both laughing at the end, so how can you interpret Simon's comments as hurtful?

R320, Ryan is feeding the gay rumours with other men in order to deflect attention away from him and Simon. Since the Leno interview, we have seen him in Paris with that girl, the Laker's game and then the Segal/Probst talk.

Before Leno, Ryan was all over Simon - the Kelly Clarkson comment about his r/ship with Simon, the tweets about family time with Simon, the Barbados trip. After Leno - when both Simon and Ryan were taken aback by how out of hand it all got with the 'incest' and 'daddy' comments, they have both made an obvious effort to distance themselves from eachother.

I still believe they are together, but are making an effort to conceal things - or perhaps have been advised to by Fox or Max Clifford.

by Anonymousreply 321April 23, 2009 9:18 AM

Segal and Probst talk is nothing, I'm sure. They both straight, Jeff is his friend, and Ryan says he wants to be Jason's friends, and just fucking around with this gay rumours about him. It was funny how he was talking with NPH about Segel in this breathy deep sexy voice.

Beards, on the other hand, is a sign of something serious. But I think everything is fine between Ryan and Simon. Cowell is much kinder to him this season, Ryan most of the shows looks calm and collected, so it's a good sign.

by Anonymousreply 322April 23, 2009 9:59 AM

NPH is a pussy for not bringing up Simon, then. He's just allowing a closet queen to use him to stay closeted, unless he knows Seacrest isn't a closet queen, is really straight, and it's all in good fun.

by Anonymousreply 323April 23, 2009 12:06 PM

"I got to give props to Paula - she looked very good, sober and collected on the show and in her clip."

That's why Cowell was hanging all over her, always in her space, practically hugging most of the time, and resting his arm on her armrest, etc.

by Anonymousreply 324April 23, 2009 12:16 PM

Ryan started fucking around with that tacky tranny girl before Leno.

by Anonymousreply 325April 23, 2009 12:19 PM

Ryan saying that Simon missed his nap seemed like an 'in' joke to me.

They were probably fucking in Simon's trailer all afternoon.

And for 'hanging over Paula' you can read 'hanging over Amanda/Cheryl/Dannii' basically whoever his current female co host is.

These female co hosts are like free beards to him, much cheaper and less hassle than Terri. No need to build an actual relationship or be seen together outside of work. He's sitting next to them anyway, so why not flirt and build up your ladies man image even more.

I appreciate not everyone believes Simon and Ryan are a couple, but please don't suggest Cowell is straight, that's ridiculous and just means you have swallowed the garbage that Max Clifford and Rupert Murdoch throw at you.

by Anonymousreply 326April 23, 2009 12:30 PM

Ryan saying that Simon missed his nap seemed like an 'in' joke to me.

They were probably fucking in Simon's trailer all afternoon.

And for 'hanging over Paula' you can read 'hanging over Amanda/Cheryl/Dannii' basically whoever his current female co host is.

These female co hosts are like free beards to him, much cheaper and less hassle than Terri. No need to build an actual relationship or be seen together outside of work. He's sitting next to them anyway, so why not flirt and build up your ladies man image even more.

I appreciate not everyone believes Simon and Ryan are a couple, but please don't suggest Cowell is straight, that's ridiculous and just means you have swallowed the garbage that Max Clifford and Rupert Murdoch throw at you.

by Anonymousreply 327April 23, 2009 12:33 PM

They were probably fucking in Simon's trailer all afternoon.

Yep, I'm sure that's what two guys who don't exactly enjoy the gay rumors that are spread about them constantly do on the set of American Idol.

by Anonymousreply 328April 23, 2009 12:40 PM

Seacrest seems like he can really carry a grudge.

by Anonymousreply 329April 23, 2009 12:46 PM

//They were probably fucking in Simon's trailer all afternoon.//

Simon really reacted affectionate after this Ryan's words.

by Anonymousreply 330April 23, 2009 1:02 PM

I've seen in several places now that Simon seems much happier on his British shows that this one.

by Anonymousreply 331April 23, 2009 1:14 PM

^than

by Anonymousreply 332April 23, 2009 1:14 PM

Simon really reacted affectionate after this Ryan's words.

Dude, where the fuck are you from?

by Anonymousreply 333April 23, 2009 1:15 PM

This troll is bringing annoying to the new level.

by Anonymousreply 334April 23, 2009 1:18 PM

I'm bringing truth to a new level. Why do you think Simon is happier on British TV. It's obviously not the money. It can only be the quality of the competitors... who he's surrounded with.

by Anonymousreply 335April 23, 2009 1:22 PM

^and who he's surrounded with - judges and, well. You know

by Anonymousreply 336April 23, 2009 1:23 PM

"I think Simon is in a bad place this week. With Ryan having spent time in Paris then at a game with gay Probst of all people, could be Simon is feeling neglected as it cuts in on personal time between him and Ryan and maybe he's worried Ryan will find a new BF."

Hogwash Honey, Simon is in a whole different place then bad and I have two words to prove it... Susan Boyle.

by Anonymousreply 337April 23, 2009 1:24 PM

I've always been curious: what are these trailers like that actors and TV personalities have on the set? How big are they, how private, what kinds of amenities do they have in them--anybody know?

by Anonymousreply 338April 23, 2009 1:25 PM

I predict Susan Boyle will grow state in no time. Discrepancies in her "story" are already coming to light.

by Anonymousreply 339April 23, 2009 1:26 PM

^stale

by Anonymousreply 340April 23, 2009 1:26 PM

R313/14--I think I saw that, and I wondered about it, because I wasn't sure who he was looking at. When in the show was it?

by Anonymousreply 341April 23, 2009 1:26 PM

I think Simon is the only one with a trailer on that set, and it's huge.

by Anonymousreply 342April 23, 2009 1:27 PM

During the long elimination segment.

by Anonymousreply 343April 23, 2009 1:30 PM

"NPH is a pussy for not bringing up Simon, then."

People in Hollywood (even gay actors) don't out other people in Hollywood. They all know what a tricky business it is, they all stayed closeted themselves for some period of time, and they don't want to lose valuable connections by making enemies.

NPH gets points for coming out on his own, but it was when some source was about to out him anyway.

by Anonymousreply 344April 23, 2009 1:32 PM

Well, first of all, I don't think Simon seems unhappy or sad on American idol. Actually, he seems like this and previous seasons he was in a pretty good mood during the course of the season. Actually, on EW.com today one of the authors wrote about how Simon became kinder this season and not nearly as sarcastic and cruel as he was before.

Secondly - this shows is all about role you play. And don't give me this crap about how Simon always honest and direct, it's a bullshit and anyone with a brain can see it. The thing is that on Idol his role is more harsh and cruel critic, he cultivated this role from the beginning, but on the other shows he can be kinder and calmer.

And one more thing - he's not producer of the idol and he got nothing to do with promoting of the contestants from the show after season is over, but on X-Factor and BGT he not only judging and helping the contestants during the competition, but also producing them after the shows are over. And I think he really consider it when judging them on TV. He probably thinking - I can't say she was horrible and off key, because people going to remember it and nobody is going to buy her record. I thought about it after watching last season of X-Factor. Winner, Alexandra Burke, in my opinion really was not that good - Allison from this season of AI are much better and more interesting singer, but Simon praised Alexandra during the whole show, even after really bad performances. He obviously wanted her to win this whole thing - and she won, and her single brought Simon a lot of money.

by Anonymousreply 345April 23, 2009 1:33 PM

Simon is the only one with a trailer, we saw it on Oprah's 'Backstage at Idol' show.

And duh, Simon is happier on British shows because that is his REAL personality! Watch him on Leno, Ellen, or Craig Ferguson and you will see that he is actually a relaxed and funny guy.

He sticks with the Mr Nasty/Grumpy act on Idol because it's his 'role'. He's the nasty but honest one.

He dropped this act in the UK a long while ago because we have the ability to understand humour and irony.

by Anonymousreply 346April 23, 2009 1:36 PM

So truth, 344.

by Anonymousreply 347April 23, 2009 1:44 PM

After listening to those contestants last night, I can proclaim there ain't a one of 'em who can articulate for shit.

by Anonymousreply 348April 23, 2009 1:47 PM

There have been growing hints from all forms of media this season regarding Simon and Ryan's interesting relationship. First Mike Walker's revelation, then we get Craig Ferguson the other night zeroing in on having Simon explain their "relationship" as soon as Simon mentioned Ryan's name. I don't see Leno asking other stars (who are friends) of popular tv shows if they share the same bed when they vacation together.

Bloggers and major magazine writers who recap Idol frequently reference their "love" and just recently one mentioned how Ryan placed his hand on Simon's thigh during a break. I could go on but you can see why we are suddenly seeing Ryan and Simon out with other people at every opportunity lately. In fact, Simon is squiring around ex-beard Terri so much, it hardly seems they broke up.

Where there is smoke, Folks, there is usually fire.

by Anonymousreply 349April 23, 2009 3:16 PM

And where there is smoke there is Fox...and Clifford.

Totally agree with 349. It's pretty obvious to see why Simon and Ryan have stepped up the bearding.

Losing Terri was a nice step forward for Simom, im glad he hasn't been seen on 'dates' with girls. I guess it's Ryan's turn for all that shit.

Besides all this, both Ryan and Simon seem content to me. When there are problems - as suspected in early season 6, then it is very noticable.

by Anonymousreply 350April 23, 2009 3:53 PM

Look, if im being honest, this whole thread is a little bit predictable and in some cases, entirely indulgent.

I don't want to read about some nonsense between me and Pawlar or hear that Ryan is shagging some old tart in pantyhose circa Pretty Woman.

Seriously, you guys talk about Ryan more than i do!

He's my sausage dog. STFU

by Anonymousreply 351April 23, 2009 4:03 PM

While we've got you here, Simon, there was some guy who desperately wanted to know: cut or uncut?

by Anonymousreply 352April 23, 2009 4:12 PM

Love ya, Simon.:) However, you need to come out like you urged Ryan to do a few years back, and then we will STFU.

by Anonymousreply 353April 23, 2009 4:14 PM

I hear Simon is uncut.

by Anonymousreply 354April 23, 2009 4:28 PM

Can you imagine if, in ten years, it came out...that Ryan is a DL'er? And Simon is a DL'er? And together they've been posting here?

by Anonymousreply 355April 23, 2009 4:37 PM

8' cut and with a girth to make Ryan wince.

by Anonymousreply 356April 23, 2009 4:41 PM

I can totally imagine Ryan posting here. I don't think Simon knows how to work a computer.

Ryan probably prints every page for him and they have a good giggle about it in bed.

by Anonymousreply 357April 23, 2009 4:54 PM

I could just see Ryan grabbing a peak at his very own thread on the venerable Datalounge, during his infrequent bathroom breaks. It would be hard to resist, even for the busiest guy in showbiz.

by Anonymousreply 358April 23, 2009 5:11 PM

A pic or it never happened, R356.

by Anonymousreply 359April 23, 2009 5:46 PM

If you look closely in pics of Simon with loose fitting jeans, you can see the outline of his pretty thick snake lying halfway down his thigh.

by Anonymousreply 360April 23, 2009 5:50 PM

Though Ryan is touchy-feely with people, that is a superficial closeness, that doesn't indicate true intimacy. The only one he does that with is Simon - apart from his family members - and that impression is based upon the amount of secret hand-holding they do.

As far as the astrological analysis, yes, certainly Simon is the neediest of the pair and given to being more luxury-minded. It is a given that Simon is needy, a petulant child emotionally, vain, and egocentric.

by Anonymousreply 361April 23, 2009 6:23 PM

Well, on some pictures from few years ago, when Ryan still wore very tight jeans, you could see pretty good bulge.

by Anonymousreply 362April 23, 2009 6:25 PM

I don't get the impression that Simon is the neediest. He seems the most controlling, but Ryan seems the most insecure based on his over concern for his looks.

by Anonymousreply 363April 23, 2009 6:33 PM

Since this is the Ryan thread (and not the Rymon thread):

Ryan was off E! News for the days he had IDOL duty this week. I thought it was funny that he must be the only E! host that gets his own celebrity mention when he's not in-house. (Like he said in KNOCKED UP he's more famous than half the people he interviews.) In the TRUE-FALSE section it had to do with a charity. Presumably they wouldn't have run the bit on the same day he was hosting as that would be a bit of ironical disconnect.

Back to Rymon, I also noticed the Simon licking his lips last night while presumably staring at Ryan. Paula was talking so Simon probably thought the camera was only on her.

On the other occasion - someone posted a link - when Ryan and then Simon are taking turns licking their lips at each other, that went out live on the East Coast feed. You can track the other West Coast version on YOUTUBE and you can see where the part with Ryan and Simon is now cut out in favor of a closeup of the photo (behind Ryan during the discussion) of Simon and Paula. In the live feed per the link you can see where Simon caught the camera watching him. He or the production crew must have realized what they caught on camera and edited out before the West Coast edition, which is an indication of the dynamite they knew they had and were trying to minimize the damage.

I didn't notice any interplay between Ryan and Adam last night, and I was looking for it, since I think Adam is crushing on Ryan. I guess it's really noticeable only when Adam stares at Ryan so much when they are standing before the judges. Or maybe Adam is only polite, to be looking at the person who is talking, and we've been misreading it.

by Anonymousreply 364April 23, 2009 6:41 PM

I suspect that Ryan is much more needy and possessive. He absolutely obsessed with Simon - talks about him all the time, does this strange domestic remarks, mention his name randomly in different interviews. From listening him on radio, it's obvious that Simon is one (if not the most) important person in his life. And we don't know if Simon feels the same. The problem is that Ryan is more exposed thanks to his radio show - 25 hours a week for a person with pretty bad filter (sorry, Ryan, but sometimes you came up with insane and very exposing stuff). Simon is more closed, private, so it's impossible to say how he really feels about Seacrest. The only thing we can be sure about is that they are very good friends, they obviously enjoy each other's company and obsessively competitive with each other. It's a fact that Simon sends news about his success, good pictures from the press first to Ryan, and only after that to his agents and media. So maybe their obsession really is mutual.

by Anonymousreply 365April 23, 2009 6:42 PM

When Simon was licking his lips, at what point of the show, 364?

And I absolutely with you about Adam's crush on Ryan - all contestants instructed to look in the camera during numbers, but Adam almost all the time stares at Ryan and licks his lips.

by Anonymousreply 366April 23, 2009 6:51 PM

R366 On the results show last night, someone else might recall specifically, but it was when Ryan was quizzing the judges on their critiques and Paula was giving more info per Ryan's request (re Danny, I think). Simon probably thought the camera was only on her and not that it was a two-shot.

by Anonymousreply 367April 23, 2009 10:26 PM

R363

To be a controlling person comes from a place of immense need. Otherwise, why the necessity? With Ryan it seems to be job-related, that he has to be perfect and in control of everything all the time, but maybe that means a sloppy personal life.

But with Simon, he seems more relaxed in the business sense (he's known for his tardiness, etc., and certainly doesn't mind the rows on AI that threaten the shows timing and pace, etc.). Simon's attitude is I'll let everyone else sort out the nonsense - sometimes that means Ryan - and everybody should be content I bothered to grace you with my presence at all! Simon probably is overwhelming in his personal needs, esp. when he is often accused of being a "child." A child is all about me, me, me.

by Anonymousreply 368April 23, 2009 10:32 PM

I don't see it as being needy when a person is controlling. I see it as a person who is used to getting his way, was probably the eldest in a family, possibly spoiled as a child, and something of a prima donna. Sound like anyone whose first name starts with an "S"?

by Anonymousreply 369April 23, 2009 10:53 PM

[italic]Back to Rymon, I also noticed the Simon licking his lips last night while presumably staring at Ryan. Paula was talking so Simon probably thought the camera was only on her.[/italic]

I've thought about it some more, and it looked like Simon was simply recreating what he frequently does to Paula's lady business.

by Anonymousreply 370April 23, 2009 11:38 PM

"I'm bringing truth to a new level. Why do you think Simon is happier on British TV. It's obviously not the money. It can only be the quality of the competitors... who he's surrounded with.

by: Anonymous reply 335 04/23/09 @08:22

^and who he's surrounded with - judges and, well. You know"

by: Ant and Dec"

And let's not forget his Ryan clone on X-factor! Yup! Clearly he thinks Ryan sucks. You only tell people to follow the example of crappy people.

by Anonymousreply 371April 23, 2009 11:39 PM

So when are we going to witness that tiresome Cheryl Cole slinging her shit on Idol?

by Anonymousreply 372April 23, 2009 11:43 PM

Please ignore the troll. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 373April 23, 2009 11:44 PM

Who is Cowell going to get to be the host for his big new American project?

by Anonymousreply 374April 23, 2009 11:53 PM

The only way to stop the Ryan is gay rumors is for him to "lose" or have "stolen" a sex tape with a uhum, girl, preferably in color, widescreen and HD. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 375April 24, 2009 2:28 AM

R-375, maybe aging Teri Hatcher will be desperate enough to try again.

by Anonymousreply 376April 24, 2009 2:36 AM

If they are together, I bet it's some weird secret between them. They're obviously not out at work at all. Well, maybe to Randy.

by Anonymousreply 377April 24, 2009 3:13 AM

Paula was talking so Simon probably thought the camera was only on her. === No, Ryan was talking.

by Anonymousreply 378April 24, 2009 3:21 AM

I don't think it was the same sort of tongue action as last year. Simon knew the camera was on him. It was more of a "Ryan and I are going to go after each other in a minute" kind of look. He knew what Ryan was going to say about Danny and "clumsy" and was waiting for his cue to call Ryan "clumsy" and have him react.

But I don't think Ryan responded the way he expected. I think he was a bit thrown off by Ryan's "Yeah yeah..I made a career by being clumsy...whatever..." response and got all bitchy and "grumpy".

by Anonymousreply 379April 24, 2009 3:32 AM

I wonder if he took his nap today.

by Anonymousreply 380April 24, 2009 3:33 AM

375, I'm sure Tila Tequila had cameras set up all around her fuck pad or wherever they went -- maybe she'll be the one to "lose" it.

by Anonymousreply 381April 24, 2009 3:37 AM

Hm, Ted C. admitted that he never mentioned Ryan in his blind items. I don't know, I think it's bullshit - some of the old items were obviously about Ryan (I don't know if they were truth or not, but still definitely pointed at Ryan), but now he's backtracking. What - are they friends now? If so, Ryan really got to be pretty charming guy, because Ted C. HATED him before.

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by Anonymousreply 382April 24, 2009 3:50 AM

R380, your implication has set my heart a-fluttering.

by Anonymousreply 383April 24, 2009 3:50 AM

I think the whole "clumsy" exchange, clumsy as it was, was clearly pre-planned. Even Simon's seemingly irritable response about Ryan needing to get on to the contestant was scripted. Simon laughed heartily after Ryan said Simon needed a nap. That is the only part I thought might be spontaneous.

by Anonymousreply 384April 24, 2009 4:03 AM

I caught this moment with licking lips - it happened when Ryan asked Danny to stand up and read Simon's criticism. And I have to say - they are going to get into some serious troubles sooner or later with things like that. Paula and Simon were in the shot, Paula was looking at Danny, and Simon was looking at Ryan, and he licked his lips in a very sexual manner. It wasn't just "my lips are dry", it was very explicit and suggestive, and when he saw camera, he stopped very quickly.

by Anonymousreply 385April 24, 2009 5:29 AM

Friends? Ted's just bullshitting because Seacrest became a bigger fry at E!, that's all. Doesn't he own part of it or something?

by Anonymousreply 386April 24, 2009 6:10 AM

Well, Ryan was a biggest fry at E since the beginning - and Ted C. still pocked him with every opportunity. He stopped when Ryan supposedly asked bosses at E to stop him (Ted even did blind item about it), but it was few years ago, so what's the point of backtracking now?

by Anonymousreply 387April 24, 2009 6:17 AM

Simon hardly looked at the contestants last night during those eliminations.

by Anonymousreply 388April 24, 2009 7:03 AM

Ryan?!

by Anonymousreply 389April 24, 2009 11:24 AM

Article about Ryan's part in fighting malaria, when he talking about his trip to Africa with Simon. Said he still haunted by this experience. I always wondered why Simon insisted on taking Ryan with him? Probably wanted to show him a piece of real life (not that Simon knows more about it than Ryan). But it was a right thing to do, I think.

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by Anonymousreply 390April 24, 2009 12:48 PM

I won't click that link unless he spoke about their sleeping arrangements.

by Anonymousreply 391April 24, 2009 1:30 PM

Simon and Paula have their heads together much of the time... what do think they talk about? Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 392April 24, 2009 2:05 PM

R-392, probably which store has the best sale on women's panties and other underwear tips for Simon.

by Anonymousreply 393April 24, 2009 2:33 PM

I think Ryan and Simon's trip to Africa was a huge step forward in their relationship. Simon cannot deal with his emotions and i imagine he needed Ryan there to get through it.

After that trip their relationship seemed a lot more serious to me and you can tell from the way they spoke about it that it had a real impact.

by Anonymousreply 394April 24, 2009 2:48 PM

I agree, 394. Do you remember there was a clip of Ryan and Simon visiting these two orphaned kids who lived by themselves? There was an 11-year-old boy, and he was the only one taking care of himself and his little sister. Ryan was very compassionate, and the boy started crying, and Ryan comforted him. Simon just sat there. I don't think he had any idea what to do.

by Anonymousreply 395April 24, 2009 2:53 PM

Which lucky lady is Simon buying underwear for?

by Anonymousreply 396April 24, 2009 2:53 PM

Tila Tequila? You actually think Ryan fucked her? Both are complete publicity whores, but sorry, it never happened.

by Anonymousreply 397April 24, 2009 3:00 PM

Tila Tequila all but spelled his name out in flashing lights in a recent blind twitter item.

by Anonymousreply 398April 24, 2009 3:02 PM

I think Seacrest would fuck anyone or anything in his quest to get ahead.

by Anonymousreply 399April 24, 2009 3:05 PM

Yeah, troll, you're absolutely right, now off the comp and go eat some cookie.

by Anonymousreply 400April 24, 2009 3:07 PM

Please ignore the troll. Just don't respond to its postings!

Speaking of Paula's mention the other night about Simon shopping in the women's department for his underwear. It brings more veracity to the following blind item that occurred around the time of Simon and Terri's "breakup."

"BlindGossip - When a couple split after several years together, the official parting is usually slow and painful and messy. So you really have to question why the breakup of this couple is going to be swift and painless and clean. It turns out that one half of the couple has incredible leverage in harboring some very deep and very nasty secrets about the other half and their sexual proclivities. The mildest of these secrets is the typical inclusion of a surprising third party, as well as one person�s penchant for wearing clothing of the opposite sex. Several jaw-dropping parting gifts are in the works to effectively buy the ex�s silence."

by Anonymousreply 401April 24, 2009 3:24 PM

395, Ryan really went up in my estimation with the way he dealt with that boy. He was very compassionate. I'm sure Simon felt the same, but he could not comfort the kid.

There was another scene where Simon was so appalled by the living conditions of one young woman who was dying, that he had to leave the room. We saw him slumped outside the room and it was clear he was close to breaking down because the cameras left him.

I imagine all this made Simon and Ryan consider their relationship more deeply. Since then they have appeared more domesticated and settled, rather than just wanting to fuck each other senseless, which is the vibe they gave off previously.

You can't go through an experience like that without feeling closer to the person.

by Anonymousreply 402April 24, 2009 3:36 PM

The only thing about the above blind item that seems off is the hint that there could be animosity between the two that required parting gifts. I never got that vibe from Simon and Terri. The way I see it, she got the gifts (including the house) as bonuses for the good job she has been doing all these years for her boss.

by Anonymousreply 403April 24, 2009 3:52 PM

"Tila Tequila all but spelled his name out in flashing lights in a recent blind twitter item."

Bwaaahhhhhhhhh. Thanks,I needed that.

by Anonymousreply 404April 24, 2009 4:02 PM

Looks like Simon and Terri are great friends these days just as he is with his former girlfriends from the UK. Did he pay the UK beards off as well, I wonder?

by Anonymousreply 405April 24, 2009 4:09 PM

His UK 'beards' are genuinely his closest friends. He didn't just hire them when he became famous.

I have seen old pics of Simon with Sinitta and Jackie. Of course, Sinitta was his artist but he met Jackie when he was 23.

He says they are ex girlfriends who became friends. Sinitta i would say he was never intimate with.

He met Jackie first and they could have dated if Simon is bi, or perhaps was unsure of his sexuality back then.

There is surely no animosity between Simon and Terri. She was a great beard for him and in return she has a career, relative fame and a stack of cash. Besides all that she always seemed close to the Cowell family.

by Anonymousreply 406April 24, 2009 4:39 PM

It seems Simon is very loyal to his friends, which is another reason he probably isn't as cruel as he would like us to think. This bodes well for a long term relationship with Ryan, albeit a rocky one at times since more than just friendship is at play there.

by Anonymousreply 407April 24, 2009 5:13 PM

If Terri knew all about his sexual proclivities, it means they actually had sex, and she is not a beard. Third party implies threesome, so Ryan, Terri, and Simon were all fucking around together.

by Anonymousreply 408April 24, 2009 5:34 PM

How much cash do you think Cowell is going to rake in over his show's semi-fraudulent presentation of Susan Boyle? There's obviously much more to that story than meets the eye.

by Anonymousreply 409April 24, 2009 5:38 PM

Also, if Cowell fetishizes women's underwear and clothing that much, it's much more likely he's actually straight.

by Anonymousreply 410April 24, 2009 5:40 PM

I found Simon's rather dismissive behavior toward Paula when she said he shops for his underwear in the women's department as evidence that she may have been spilling a secret.

Paula has been known to spill about Ryan and Simon's relationship on previous occasions. Of course, she knows most people believe she is only kidding when she blurts comments like this out--so she obviously can get by with it.

Oh, and some gay men do wear women's undergarments, just as straight men with that sort of fetish do. It is not an exclusive trait of a straight men.

by Anonymousreply 411April 24, 2009 5:53 PM

//Ryan was very compassionate, and the boy started crying, and Ryan comforted him.//

Yes, and this moment is one of the reasons why I don't believe people who are trying to prove that Ryan is a little sociopathic machine who knows only how to work and has no empathy whatsoever. I'm sure Simon is a nice guy and he took everything very close to the heart, but he looked like he's absolutely incapable to deal with people whe suffer in front of him. He was lost and confused and looked like he want to run away. Ryan, who very often perceived as this shallow empty-headed monster, was gracious and caring, while cool and respected Simon completely lost his shit.

by Anonymousreply 412April 24, 2009 7:31 PM

R410

Remember season 1 - before Simon had to perpetuate the image of being straight - Simon complimented Ryan on his "see-through blouse" saying it suited him, and wondered if it came with matching panties. Ever since Paula said what she did, I've been wondering if Simon either cross-dresses or does buy underwear he thinks would suit Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 413April 24, 2009 8:42 PM

R409:

This is the Ryan Seacrest thread - as far as we know Simon and any business relationships he has that don't involve Ryan are not part of this discussion.

There is a thread on Susan Boyle, so take part in that.

by Anonymousreply 414April 24, 2009 8:53 PM

The lip-licking that Simon was doing at Ryan the other night was missread by recapper Jacob on TWOP. He put it down to Simon licking his lips threateningly at Danny! No, that was a sexual insinuation, no doubt about it, and I seriously doubt Simon is lusting for Danny! As well, we know Simon has done this before.

I really can't get my head around that one Simon-Danny notion of Jacob's, and since Jacob hasn't been noting the gay stuff going down lately - either with Adam staring at Ryan and licking his lips or Simon and Ryan stuff - is it possible he or TWOP have been told to lay off? Cause I've seen the stuff between Ryan and Simon every week, yet Jacob - who used to be good at bringing the gay - isn't noting anything.

by Anonymousreply 415April 24, 2009 8:57 PM

WtH was Ryan yesterday? He wasn't on E! NEWS, even though it wasn't an IDOL taping day. Now he may have been stuck in bed with Simon, but I don't know if he made his radio appearance either. Ryan's missing so much in E! action lately I'm wondering if he's going to drop the telecast from his list of things to do.

by Anonymousreply 416April 24, 2009 9:00 PM

If rumors that Ryan is cooking up a reality show venture with Simon are true, maybe he has better fish to fry on his plate than E.

by Anonymousreply 417April 24, 2009 9:09 PM

I hear he flew to Paris with the female brunette bartender again.

by Anonymousreply 418April 24, 2009 9:15 PM

Anyone know who this guy is/was? Evidently Ryan grocery shopping in WeHo with him in Dec. 2007.

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by Anonymousreply 419April 24, 2009 10:11 PM

I came across this regarding some bf Ryan was supposed to be supporting, and it's in that timeframe. In the comments to the Lance-Reichen article within the link. Maybe it's just a rumor that was sped off an article like this, but here's the gist of it (at the end):

PJ Wed, Dec 6, 2006 at 07:18 PM EST Phil, what are the chances. :) I'd also like to add that gay men really don't have many role models in Hollywood. Hopefully Doogie Howser can keep his relationship together. I mean, remember James, the "bachelor" from Boy Meets Boy? If you remember, his drama ridden hag was more upset about the straight guy thing that he was. The reason why was because James had a boyfriend the entire time he was on the show. So far, gay men are not really being portrayed in a good light. :( Though, I do hear that Ryan Seacrest has had a steady boyfriend that he has been supporting for a while. :)

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by Anonymousreply 420April 24, 2009 10:27 PM

I read from a reliable source about that time that the cute guy he was photographed shopping with was a married friend he grew up with in Georgia who was visiting for a short time. Since I never saw the fellow again, I figured he wasn't anyone with whom he was sexually involved.

by Anonymousreply 421April 24, 2009 10:32 PM

The end of 2009 is Ryan going to take over from Larry King on CNN? This article also shows the same guy that was in the link R419 and identifies the guy as Ryan's boyfriend.

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by Anonymousreply 422April 24, 2009 10:37 PM

Really weird how Ryan being out shopping with a friend gets copied around to various media as his boyfriend and even the boyfriend he is supporting. Like no one was bothering to fact check?

by Anonymousreply 423April 24, 2009 10:38 PM

R-422, that article has the date of May 2008 and it says "may" be replacing King. That same picture was floating around in 2007 and I have not seen the "boyfriend" photographed since then. Maybe you could dredge up the picture of Ryan with his cute trainer while stretching his gluteus maximus, or the one of Ryan sitting on Randy's lap. You really want Ryan with anyone other than Simon. You are wasting a lot of bandwidth and time trying to make a point--and failing.

by Anonymousreply 424April 24, 2009 10:51 PM

A year old story, and a two year old picture with a man(who I believe was identified as his friend Brady who has a girlfriend and a kid).

Sad.

Anyways, did anyone see this story in the LA times about the Malaria charity dinner?

"the audience was transfixed by "American Idol" host Ryan Seacrest's account of a trip he and "Idol" judge Simon Cowell made to Africa with a film crew on behalf of the organization. Hoping to make a consciousness-raising video, they accompanied a woman and her child -- desperately ill with malaria -- as they made a long bus trip to a distant clinic in search of treatment for the baby. During the course of the bumpy journey, the child died in the mother's arms. Seacrest told the hushed Beverly Hills audience that the scene still haunts him. He also announced that had pledged $100,000 to support Malaria No More's work."

by Anonymousreply 425April 24, 2009 11:40 PM

Also, Ryan and Larry debunked the rumour when Ryan appeared on Larry's show(by himself) at the end of May of last year.

by Anonymousreply 426April 24, 2009 11:53 PM

I've heard Ryan can suck the chrome off a tailpipe.

by Anonymousreply 427April 25, 2009 1:27 AM

Who else thinks Ryan and Kara D. LaGuardia are having a fling?

by Anonymousreply 428April 25, 2009 1:51 AM

Does he lick his lips at her?

by Anonymousreply 429April 25, 2009 2:36 AM

I haven't seen that exactly, but he did suggestively say he would "break her in easy" on the first live show.

by Anonymousreply 430April 25, 2009 2:39 AM

Ryan used to substitute host on Larry King fairly often, but I haven't seen him this past year guest hosting. I wonder if he no longer is under consideration.

by Anonymousreply 431April 25, 2009 2:44 AM

R--416

Ryan was on the radio this friday, sounded great - I heard interview with Tom Bergeron, and it was very good. It's funny how Tom Bergeron, who is a very good worker, said he became claustrophobic listening Ryan's shedule just for one day. And if Ryan would leave E!, I'll open the bottle of champagne. I know Joel McHale will be upset, but Ryan could do better than this stupid red carpet and horrible E! News. But he signed new contract till 2012, so it's probably not going to happen, unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 432April 25, 2009 2:57 AM

Ryan and Larry blasted rumours about Seacrest as Larry's replacement, but this rumours still around despite the fact that Ryan didn't fill on King for few years already. They stillare good friends, but King will be on the air for few more years, and maybe even more. Actually, I'd like to see Ryan working on CNN - I think he's ready for something more serious than gossiping about Britney/Lindsay/Paris, but he needs to make very smart transition to be considered good replacement. When he hosted Larry King's show, almost all of his guests were from entertainment industry, so who knows how he's going to be with politic and culture figures. I think he will be fine with experience and good preparation, but he associated with entertainment industry, so it will be more difficult for him.

by Anonymousreply 433April 25, 2009 3:07 AM

Oh My Gawd, Simon does the queeniest face ever at 4:33 with having a fight with a teenage girl.

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by Anonymousreply 434April 25, 2009 5:03 AM

Wow, he really does have a lot more fun and looks much happier there.

by Anonymousreply 435April 25, 2009 5:26 AM

Maybe Simon isn't as emotionally invested in AI as he is with his Brit shows because he doesn't control it and doesn't like being another producer's puppet.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he does quit at the end of his contract with Idol and maybe start another reality show here in America in which he has a producer credit. He isn't getting any younger and seems bored and distracted especially this year. It almost seems as if he is acting the way school kids do the last month of school before vacation starts.

by Anonymousreply 436April 25, 2009 6:09 AM

I remember reading on X-factor forums last year (particularly digitalspy) how bored and tired Simon looked on the X-factor panel. I also remember him grumbling about how he might give up the X-factor panel "after next year"(this coming year). Wonder if he had a contract up there too?

by Anonymousreply 437April 25, 2009 8:59 AM

"A year old story, and a two year old picture with a man(who I believe was identified as his friend Brady who has a girlfriend and a kid)."

Hmmm, interesting, hanging around with straight men. I bet they were shopping for the hot sexy playmate party Ryan was hosting that night.

by Anonymousreply 438April 25, 2009 9:38 AM

One would think the changes this year, like the new judge and the "save," along with Ryan walking down the huge staircase, would have satisfied to some extent Simon's aversion to sameness.

by Anonymousreply 439April 25, 2009 10:38 AM

Yes, 437, I remember this threads as well. People were discussing on british forums how tired and disinterested Simon is on X-Factor, how his heart is in America now - and we doing just the same on american boards, only this time about American idol. I don't think he looks bored this season. I think he's much more positive and kind, and looks like he's in a good mood.

As for Simon leaving Idol - I doubt it's going to happen (his british shows are very popular, but it's nothing comparing to success in America), unless he created new show for american audience, for example american version of X-Factor (which could be fun). But I doubt Simon Fuller would let it happen.

by Anonymousreply 440April 25, 2009 11:14 AM

I never considered this licking of the lips as something important, but moment from last elimination show was truly fascinating. Few caps. Ryan started to read feedback about Danny - he's reading Paula's criticism, and in this shot Paula is looking at Danny, and Simon looking a little to the side - i.e. either Ryan, or empty stage. Well, obviously Ryan, because nobody else is there.

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by Anonymousreply 441April 25, 2009 12:08 PM

Looking at the same spot, he did this.

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by Anonymousreply 442April 25, 2009 12:10 PM

And this. I think this is purposeful sexual, suggestive gesture.

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by Anonymousreply 443April 25, 2009 12:13 PM

Then he noticed camera and immediately turned away.

I tried to be objective, and I just have no idea how to interpret this moment the other way.

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by Anonymousreply 444April 25, 2009 12:16 PM

I forget why the camera was on him--was it on Paula and he forget he sits so close to Paula that he is in the same frame as she? My surprise is why he would do something that suggestive when the camera was that close. He should be a wiz and knowing where the camera is after all these years in front of them.

by Anonymousreply 445April 25, 2009 12:37 PM

Usually camera is on contestant or Ryan in moments like that.

by Anonymousreply 446April 25, 2009 12:47 PM

Usually camera is on contestant or Ryan in moments like that.

by Anonymousreply 447April 25, 2009 12:49 PM

He was simply (and o so lasciviously) demonstrating to everyone just what he would be doing to her after the show.

by Anonymousreply 448April 25, 2009 1:28 PM

You're right, I can't recall when they've trained the camera on Simon so often. At least during that segment, it really shows where all of his attention went, especially during those two-shots with Paula. Her eyes were always slanted in the direction of the contestant, and Simon's were in a different place entirely.

by Anonymousreply 449April 25, 2009 2:45 PM

I found this interesting. Cowell and Seacrest both make the Not Hot 100 List -- obviously because of their status as closeted gay baiters.

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by Anonymousreply 450April 25, 2009 7:38 PM

Mmm, okey, but Adam Lambert WTF??? What the hell is he doing on this list? I don't even like him, but why gay oriented site puts him in the same list with O'Reilly and miss California (her picture, by the way, freaked me out).

by Anonymousreply 451April 25, 2009 7:46 PM

The comments are stupid. It's clear that a lot of guys were on there for being closeted and/or bearding while being closeted.

by Anonymousreply 452April 25, 2009 7:59 PM

Adam Lambert I don't know - maybe because of the makeup stereotype? Who knows.

by Anonymousreply 453April 25, 2009 8:00 PM

Simon, Ryan and Randy were together in some club in Vegas. No bartenders in sight.

by Anonymousreply 454April 25, 2009 9:07 PM

Holy Shit! Those pictures are something else. The look on Simon's face says everything - he doesn't need to lick his lips.

Ryan got really lucky that night, didn't he?

by Anonymousreply 455April 25, 2009 10:58 PM

Randy has the most understanding wife in the world. He lives the life of a single man.

by Anonymousreply 456April 25, 2009 11:10 PM

Ryan was probably on the prowl for a new waitress to fuck.

by Anonymousreply 457April 25, 2009 11:11 PM

Where did you see that R-454?

by Anonymousreply 458April 26, 2009 12:14 AM

"Ryan could do better than this stupid red carpet and horrible E! News."

Do better? You do realize that Ryan has no talent except for hosting and he gets millions for his E!work. He's not Greg Kinear. What better is there?

by Anonymousreply 459April 26, 2009 12:16 AM

No doubt it was a strip club. Those guys are pussy hounds extraordinaire.

by Anonymousreply 460April 26, 2009 12:16 AM

Ryan has... [italic]hidden[/italic] talents.

by Anonymousreply 461April 26, 2009 12:29 AM

I have always assumed Randy goes to these places accompanying Ryan and Simon for appearances, while the wife comes in discreetly soon after. They get paid nicely to help out Ryan and Simon. End of story.

by Anonymousreply 462April 26, 2009 1:50 AM

R-454, are you referring to the pics from their Vegas trip last year at Tryst? Isn't that old news?

by Anonymousreply 463April 26, 2009 2:13 AM

I'm not R-454 but while googling, I ran across this.

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by Anonymousreply 464April 26, 2009 2:53 AM

Thanks R-464. I guess they were there recently. I haven't run across any pics. Anyone?

by Anonymousreply 465April 26, 2009 3:24 AM

R-459 t

There are different shows to host, duh. Larry King called him his ideal replacement, and considering it, I certainly think that red carpets and bullshit like that are waste of time.

But he signed contracts and chose to do it, so it's his problem.

by Anonymousreply 466April 26, 2009 3:34 AM

R-463

464 got it almosr tight, but I saw another source. No pictures or details, unfortunately.

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by Anonymousreply 467April 26, 2009 3:36 AM

R-455 t

And poor Simon missed his nap again.

by Anonymousreply 468April 26, 2009 3:44 AM

Do they get comp rooms for going to Vegas nightclubs? Publicity and all.

by Anonymousreply 469April 26, 2009 3:44 AM

This moment from elimination night is the strangest thing. I'm absolutely convinced that it was suggestive gesture from Simon, but it happened in the moment when Ryan was reading criticism and, most likely, was looking in the cue card. So why Simon did it? Maybe Ryan really was looking at him, but camers missed it, or maybe it's just Simon's unconscious reaction? I don't think he played for the camera, because he looked embarassed and quickly turned away when camera caught him.

Anyway, after this moment I think that Simon is extremely sexual person, and I bet they have a lot of fun with this kind of fuckery on live shows.

by Anonymousreply 470April 26, 2009 3:51 AM

Ryan with Rosie, looking un gay. Seriously, why he does so much fake tan? He looks MUCH better without it.

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by Anonymousreply 471April 26, 2009 3:56 AM

Does this answer your question, 471?

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by Anonymousreply 472April 26, 2009 4:34 AM

And you're right, he does look better without it.

by Anonymousreply 473April 26, 2009 4:34 AM

Maybe Ryan really was looking at him, but camers missed it,

He had to have been looking at him at some point; Cowell winked at him.

by Anonymousreply 474April 26, 2009 4:40 AM

Yeah, he did winked, I just noticed it. Wow, those two are insane.

by Anonymousreply 475April 26, 2009 4:53 AM

R450: I think it's just people who are tired of hearing about the same guys all the time, they feel like the guys are overexposed. I like them though, so I don't care, but I would get insane if I didn't like them.. Can't really blame them for getting tired of hearing about the same people over and over, especially if you dislike the guys, but I agree that this is insane.. You don't put a guy on the list just because you're tired of hearing about him. The list was supposed to be for people who are homophobic, who has not helped our cause lately.. I guess some people just don't get that.

by Anonymousreply 476April 26, 2009 9:18 AM

Could you imagine being Ryan's (and any other star with questionable sexuality) male friend? One picture together - and you are his lover for life. I'm talking about this picture of Ryan with his straight married friend - i remember how Perez used it non-stop in all articles about Ryan (before they became friendly). And he also used Ryan's picture with his sister, called her ugly and said Ryan needs a more attractive beard.

by Anonymousreply 477April 26, 2009 9:36 AM

I think this list is just senseless. While most of the people deserve their place on this list, some were mentioned absolutely randomly. Actually, I had no idea Stephen Colbert is anti-gay. And Kanye West, who can be a douchebag, always seemed to me as the most gay-friendly rap star. And of course, why Adam? He became famous only few months ago, he never bearded and never was in the closet, he is open, proud, good singer and made conservative housewives on O'Reilly show gush about him. Why is he on this list?

by Anonymousreply 478April 26, 2009 11:56 AM

I think this list is just senseless. While most of the people deserve their place on this list, some were mentioned absolutely randomly. Actually, I had no idea Stephen Colbert is anti-gay. And Kanye West, who can be a douchebag, always seemed to me as the most gay-friendly rap star. And of course, why Adam? He became famous only few months ago, he never bearded and never was in the closet, he is open, proud, good singer and made conservative housewives on O'Reilly show gush about him. Why is he on this list?

by Anonymousreply 479April 26, 2009 11:57 AM

I think this list is just senseless. While most of the people deserve their place on this list, some were mentioned absolutely randomly. Actually, I had no idea Stephen Colbert is anti-gay. And Kanye West, who can be a douchebag, always seemed to me as the most gay-friendly rap star. And of course, why Adam? He became famous only few months ago, he never bearded and never was in the closet, he is open, proud, good singer and made conservative housewives on O'Reilly show gush about him. Why is he on this list?

by Anonymousreply 480April 26, 2009 11:57 AM

R480, see my answer at R476..

by Anonymousreply 481April 26, 2009 12:50 PM

Yes, I saw your answer and I agree with you, but it still doesn't explain why Lambert is there. He was famous for couple of months and only because of Idol, he had no time to became overexposed. Well, you definitely right about one thing - some people just don't get that.

by Anonymousreply 482April 26, 2009 1:20 PM

It is only a list. I don't put much stock in any list from an unknown writer's POV who probably has some agenda no one even knows or cares about.

The writer probably thinks that Adam isn't spouting his sexual preference in any of his recent interviews or back stories with Idol. Therefore he probably thinks Adam isn't out and proud.

by Anonymousreply 483April 26, 2009 5:34 PM

It's not a list, it's a poll. The "writer" didn't make it up, the "writer" ended up on the list himself.

by Anonymousreply 484April 26, 2009 5:45 PM

Heh, I want pictures from this vegas club. Last year their pictures from Tryst club were priceless. They look like such a couple on this one.

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by Anonymousreply 485April 26, 2009 8:44 PM

And they say Ryan uses too much fake tan.

It's nothing comparing to Simon.

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by Anonymousreply 486April 26, 2009 8:46 PM

Just look at Simon.

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by Anonymousreply 487April 26, 2009 8:49 PM

Ryan obviously did not care that he was with Simon - his ever present and ever ready blackberry says that he is expecting a text or call from a very important person!

by Anonymousreply 488April 26, 2009 8:56 PM

Simon looks over baked. Ryan looks good.

And they don't look like a couple in the pic R485 posted, more like friends. I'm not saying they are not a couple - the thought of them ever coming out as a couple makes me happy, but they just sit next to each other there, no couply thing going on.

by Anonymousreply 489April 26, 2009 8:57 PM

Yeah, he was waiting for a call from Tila or Teri Hatcher. Few more.

Randy always around. But nobody paying him any attention.

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by Anonymousreply 490April 26, 2009 9:29 PM

Another one.

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by Anonymousreply 491April 26, 2009 9:29 PM

Ryan looks great with normal untanned skin.

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by Anonymousreply 492April 26, 2009 9:30 PM

R-489, it's just how close they are, and how obviously comfortable with such a closeness.

And another one - great picture. Ryan with fancy cocktail and mischievous look on his face, and Simon with beer.

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by Anonymousreply 493April 26, 2009 9:35 PM

I agree with 489 - those photos prove even more that they're just friends.

by Anonymousreply 494April 26, 2009 9:44 PM

How many gay couples hang around with a straight married guy all the time?

by Anonymousreply 495April 26, 2009 9:48 PM

Seacrest's hairline in the back almost goes down to the top of his spine.

by Anonymousreply 496April 26, 2009 9:51 PM

Of course, they are not kissing or fucking, but they stand very close, gaze each other in the eyes, hug each other, and overall are very close, much closer than either one of them with Randy, for example.

by Anonymousreply 497April 26, 2009 9:52 PM

I think they look fairly couply in some of these, especially the one at 490. Yeah, Randy's there. But their attention is elsewhere.

The one at 485 is more ambiguous, I think. I'd believe either scenario from their body language. Possibly I'd read them as a couple in which one partner is about to hold the champagne bucket so the other one can puke into it.

by Anonymousreply 498April 26, 2009 10:29 PM

The pic at 485 looks like Ryan is sneaking a peak at his blackberry and Simon is trying to find out who is the caller. Simon strikes me as a possessive daddy figure.

by Anonymousreply 499April 26, 2009 11:24 PM

I saw Ryan's cock once in a public bathroom. Not bad..not great. I'd suck it.

by Anonymousreply 500April 26, 2009 11:44 PM

Maybe it is better for them not to come out. As long as they keep us guessing, we come up with sexy, dirty and interesting scenarios for their relationship � that Simon is the strict daddy figure who controls Ryan completely and likes to tie him up in bed, that Ryan is the smart young thing that captured the hidden insecure tender heart of Simon and that they make sweet love in each and every room in Simon's mansion, that they are equals and versatile and have passionate sex backstage and in their limo on their way to another show.

The truth is probably a lot less interesting. An orange middle-aged man feels competitive with a 34 year old neurotic mess? Not quite as sexy.

by Anonymousreply 501April 27, 2009 1:14 AM

Few pictures - only Ryan and Paul McKenna. Ryan looks surprisingly sober, but too orange.

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by Anonymousreply 502April 27, 2009 2:39 AM

R-499, you right, it definitely explain this pictures. I always thought Ryan is just very drunk, but he definitely looking at something - and he held his blackberry on other pictures. And yes, Simon definitely tries to sneak a glance.

by Anonymousreply 503April 27, 2009 2:42 AM

I see an insecure Simon in that picture who would like to control Ryan, but Ryan has so many irons in the fire and it unsettles Simon that he can't fully control him. OTOH, Simon seems just the type to lose interest if he doesn't have a challenge.

I almost feel sorry for aging Simon even though he is richer than God and can be so cruel.

by Anonymousreply 504April 27, 2009 3:28 AM

R-501, maybe all of this scenarios are truth, maybe none of it. But I'm sure that the truth is much more interesting than speculations based on scraps of truth. I don't know if they fucking or not (actually, pretty sure they are, because alternative is even more fucking insane), but either way, their relationship is fascinating. It's enough to see how they fight, flirt, look at each other, do this sexual gestures on Idol, compete in radio interviews, act insane or flirty on talk shows, to see that something really fascinating going on between these two.

by Anonymousreply 505April 27, 2009 3:48 AM

And even more pictures on DListed in article named "I Wonder How The Night Ended?" Ryan really is holding his burberry, so your theory is correct, 499.

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by Anonymousreply 506April 27, 2009 5:07 AM

Looks like Ryan picked up some blonde bimbo to do it with at XS... does Simon have a relationship with Steve Wynn?

by Anonymousreply 507April 27, 2009 5:31 AM

I see a bored Simon in that picture. The outlandish scenarios slash hags come up with beggar belief.

by Anonymousreply 508April 27, 2009 5:33 AM

Please describe that cock, 500.

by Anonymousreply 509April 27, 2009 5:36 AM

"Enjoying the owners room at XS" obviously = getting their rocks off with the help. Simon must have already gone up to his suite with some company for the evening.

I wonder if that hypnotist that is pictured on so many of their nights out is conducting some sort of long term gay aversion therapy on both of them.

by Anonymousreply 510April 27, 2009 6:07 AM

R-507

What, and betrayed his beautiful and romantic love affair with LA bartender and Tila Tequila???!!!! NOOOO! I will never believe in true love again.

by Anonymousreply 511April 27, 2009 7:26 AM

Obviously guys like that aren't that into love.

It calls to mind what Drew Barrymore said during his radio show about him squiring around this and that chick everywhere, which we never see in the pap pages. He no doubt dates loads of women, which led DeGeneres to say that she'd like to see him settle down with a "nice girl."

by Anonymousreply 512April 27, 2009 7:29 AM

Oh yes, he IS a notorious pussyhound. Since the moment I saw this incredibly exciting pictures of his insanely hot and natural kiss with Tery Hatcher, I said to myself - this guy loves pussy like little kid loves ice cream. And then Bikini Girl happened, and proved I was right all along.

by Anonymousreply 513April 27, 2009 7:41 AM

Hey, take it up with Barrymore if you don't like it. She's in a better position to know who he takes to L.A. locations... why would she have said it otherwise?

by Anonymousreply 514April 27, 2009 7:47 AM

Are you talking about the moment when HE said he's always out with girls, and then added that they all on the pay-roll, but help him feel better about himself? Because yes, it totally proves he's straight.

by Anonymousreply 515April 27, 2009 7:48 AM

No, she said he's always seen around town with different women.

by Anonymousreply 516April 27, 2009 7:52 AM

And that payroll thing? Self-deprecating joke.

by Anonymousreply 517April 27, 2009 7:56 AM

Hmm, how about actually listening to this interview? Here's the link, and it proves you're wrong.

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by Anonymousreply 518April 27, 2009 7:59 AM

And by the way, in the beginning she said they never met before, only spoke on the phone. So she obviously has no idea how and with whom he spends his time.

by Anonymousreply 519April 27, 2009 8:01 AM

Oh, thank you, I was confusing her with Larry King, who said he has had many gorgeous girlfriends.

by Anonymousreply 520April 27, 2009 8:03 AM

Oh yes, completely understandable. Drew Barrymore and Larry King are practically the same person.

You so full of shit, troll.

by Anonymousreply 521April 27, 2009 8:09 AM

Why would a highly respected newsman such as Mr. King lie?

by Anonymousreply 522April 27, 2009 8:33 AM

Larry is blind and interviewing nursing homes for his next address as I write. I am sure he is up on who is really sleeping with whom. He even thinks good pal Anderson Cooper is a pussyhound.

by Anonymousreply 523April 27, 2009 9:38 AM

Did you noticed that during shows, whenever Ryan is standing at judges panel, Simon almost always following him with his eyes. Other judges look in the camera, but not Simon.

by Anonymousreply 524April 27, 2009 9:39 AM

I noticed that Ryan was practically sitting in that rather plain but spectacularly bimbo-ish blonde's lap at XS.

by Anonymousreply 525April 27, 2009 9:55 AM

Simon's just afraid Seacrest is going to jump in his lap if he lets down his guard.

by Anonymousreply 526April 27, 2009 9:56 AM

So, considering that Ted C. said he never wrote anything about Ryan in his blind items, does it mean that rumour about him and Merv is a bullshit?

by Anonymousreply 527April 27, 2009 11:41 AM

So, considering that Ted C. said he never wrote anything about Ryan in his blind items, does it mean that rumour about him and Merv is a bullshit?

by Anonymousreply 528April 27, 2009 11:44 AM

Why would you believe Ted? They both work for E! and Ryan is much more valued there. If E execs tell Ted to say he's never done a BI on Ryan then that is what he will do.

We have linked a Ted BI before that was clearly about Simon and Ryan. Simon was his 'well heeled lover' - Simon religiously wears cuban heels.

I think the Merv rumour is BS. Ryan seemed genuinely upset at his funeral and talks about him with great respect.

by Anonymousreply 529April 27, 2009 12:25 PM

Well, I thought he's full of shit because of his terrible writing style, but usually knows what he's talking about, but obviously, he's just a liar. Because this blind item was written about Ryan (and if it was written about another person, Ted C. deliberately added details that point at Ryan), and now he for some reasons lying about it.

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by Anonymousreply 530April 27, 2009 12:40 PM

If you want to think the well-heeled guy is Simon, that BI makes it clear that their sexual interactions were a mighty chore for Seacrest and also of brief duration. So go ahead and think that!

by Anonymousreply 531April 27, 2009 2:15 PM

Simon wasn't meant to be in any of the blind items listed and Ryan was obviously one of several Ted had in mind as the Jiggly character.

Ted is famous for using an amalgam of stars to make one of his famous characters. It is all Ted's, or his assistants', fun fiction writing exercise. Never use Ted as any evidence of anything. He is the joker.

by Anonymousreply 532April 27, 2009 2:47 PM

Ryan is very giddy on his radio show today. He's been talking about his weekend in Vegas with the boys and how nice Simon's skin is. He then went on to tease him about his botox.

by Anonymousreply 533April 27, 2009 3:30 PM

That is so Ryan, R-533. He can't help but talk on and on about his love, but then the next day, he will overcompensate by talking about a hot model or actress and say some thing like, "if only she were single..."

by Anonymousreply 534April 27, 2009 3:54 PM

His weekend in Vegas with the boys and the bimbos.

by Anonymousreply 535April 27, 2009 5:10 PM

534, the funny thing is that all of his so-called female crushes he talks about on the radio are completely unapproachable.

Victoria Beckhem - married with kids. Kelly Ripa - married with kids. Julianne Hough - mormon, ten years younger and has a fiance. And he always goes on - Oh, if only they were single, and I can't help but thinking - if they would be single, they wouldn't be your crushes.

by Anonymousreply 536April 27, 2009 5:29 PM

So where was the female brunette bartender who reportedly had been in his life for months? According to one source (wasn't it a Rupert Murdoch publication?), she was so important that he even took her to Paris for a weekend just a few weeks ago? Hmmm?

Oh yeah, Ryan is such a slut, he takes them to Europe one week, and then dumps them for some Vegas bimbos the next.(Rolling eyes.)

by Anonymousreply 537April 27, 2009 5:31 PM

He is a slut. He's a man ho. Kathy Griffin said so. He's already on to the next vag.

Does Ryan bring his longtime boyfriend (as referenced earlier) to these events?

by Anonymousreply 538April 27, 2009 5:33 PM

I'm sure the trip to Paris with that nice young lady was meant to be a trial run for them moving in together. Perhaps they found their personal habits rendered them incompatible for such a commitment. Or maybe they're still together on the down low - you never know in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 539April 27, 2009 5:37 PM

Troll, you've been caught on your shit - this whole Drew Barrymore story proved that you are idiot, liar and have no idea what you're talking about. Save your breath and disappear.

by Anonymousreply 540April 27, 2009 5:40 PM

R-539, she proved incompatible the minute he discovered she had a vagina--which occurred way before they discovered Paris together.

by Anonymousreply 541April 27, 2009 5:50 PM

I'm hurt, 540. Just because I confused Drew Barrymore with Larry King, you have to jump all over me. Not very nice.

by Anonymousreply 542April 27, 2009 5:51 PM

She was vaguely trannyish, 541, so perhaps the discovery was delayed longer than you think.

by Anonymousreply 543April 27, 2009 5:52 PM

Ryan on the radio sounds like he's in a very good mood today.

by Anonymousreply 544April 27, 2009 5:56 PM

You know, I've always had a crush on either Drew Barrymore or Larry King, but I can never remember which one. Actually, maybe it's Connie Chung.

by Anonymousreply 545April 27, 2009 6:24 PM

R424 said: "Maybe you could dredge up the picture of Ryan with his cute trainer while stretching his gluteus maximus, or the one of Ryan sitting on Randy's lap. You really want Ryan with anyone other than Simon. You are wasting a lot of bandwidth and time trying to make a point--and failing. "

You should remember two things. One is that none of us knows the TRUTH about Simon and Ryan except for Simon and Ryan and I doubt either is posting here or confiding in anyone who is. Therefore if there is any contradictory information to Simon and Ryan being a couple, it is fair to open it to discussion. You are a firm Rymon fan, which means you want the fantasy to be reality, but you can't know it is reality. So cool it. Two, this is the Ryan Seacrest thread, not the Ryan Seacrest/Simon Cowell thread. So all aspects of Ryan are fair, whether we are discussion possible other couplings for him or his business deals or his drug use or his family life.

by Anonymousreply 546April 27, 2009 6:35 PM

Ryan wrote on his twitter that Wall Street is his favorite movie and Gordon Gekko is his hero. Therefore proving himself to be a totally fuck up. Well, Wall Street is a good movie, but it always seemed to me that Gekko is the most fucked up father figure you can imagine. And yes, Ryan's ambitions are officially terrifyng. He's totally adorable, and frightening at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 547April 27, 2009 6:49 PM

Ryan fails to realize - or maybe he does, which makes it even more frightening - he is his own worst enemy.

by Anonymousreply 548April 27, 2009 7:15 PM

He was online with some big TV-producer from MTV, in the end congratulated him on his success, as he often does, and this producer congratulated him in return and said "You're taking over the world, Ryan"

And Seacrest said "I'll be dead in five years".

Everybody thought he was joking and laughed. Everybody except him.

by Anonymousreply 549April 27, 2009 7:26 PM

"He is a slut. He's a man ho. Kathy Griffin said so. He's already on to the next vag.

Does Ryan bring his longtime boyfriend (as referenced earlier) to these events?"

Are you even paying atention to your posts anymore? At least put those two lines of bullshit in different posts.

by Anonymousreply 550April 27, 2009 9:34 PM

Gordon Gekko... I told you he was a fucking Republicunt.

by Anonymousreply 551April 28, 2009 12:17 AM

[italic]Ryan on the radio sounds like he's in a very good mood today.[/italic]

Who wouldn't be with such a lovely blonde lady as his Vegas plaything?

by Anonymousreply 552April 28, 2009 12:20 AM

[italic]One is that none of us knows the TRUTH about Simon and Ryan except for Simon and Ryan and I doubt either is posting here or confiding in anyone who is.[/italic]

Very true. If they are together, who would they be out to? Very few if any. They both try to strut around like Mr. Big, and I imagine a gay image is counter conducive to that.

by Anonymousreply 553April 28, 2009 12:29 AM

^they think a gay image is counter conducive to that.

by Anonymousreply 554April 28, 2009 12:29 AM

You could also interpret Simon's winking and lip licking while simultaneously almost draping himself across Paula's body as a subtle fuck you to Seacrest, a sort of mocking look that says I can pass so much better than you can.

by Anonymousreply 555April 28, 2009 1:05 AM

The irony is - since both guys are into fame and power-tripping in a big way - is they'd be the biggest thing ever as a gay power couple if they came out as such. All the other big A-Gays are one half a power couple (George or Elton or Geffen, etc.) while the other guy is nowhere within the same class. With Simon & Ryan you have two A-List gays.

No wonder Simon wants to hang onto Ryan, since otherwise he might pay for some twinks for company, but that's not worth boasting about. Any guy with money can buy company, but quality company isn't paid for.

by Anonymousreply 556April 28, 2009 1:36 AM

Well, he isn't boasting about Ryan - they are in the closet, after all, I doubt anyone except closest friends and family know anything about it. Although probably people from AI know - there was blind item about romance between british lady man and american presenter that became a topic of talks for their co-workers.

But in the whole, I do agree with you. But is it a really such a good thing - being most famous gay couple? Press will be stalking them withoun mercy, and it's a big burden.

And another thing - sincerely doubt Ryan is a republican. He never said who he's voting for, but he dissed Palin pretty heavily on his radio show.

by Anonymousreply 557April 28, 2009 2:03 AM

I think one of their fun methods of foreplay is during the American Idol telecasts when they will flirt, wink, and/or make tongue gestures at each other whenever they think the camera is pointed in another direction. Ryan has even said there is a whole different show going on behind the camera each week.

by Anonymousreply 558April 28, 2009 3:13 AM

Did somebody say A-List?

by Anonymousreply 559April 28, 2009 5:19 AM

557 was spot on. We often debate why they do not come out, but being an A list gay couple - a first in Hollywood - would be a huge burden. Perhaps they could handle it, but more to the point, do they need to? They seem very happy, they get to work together and when they are apart they meet up in nice places like Miami, Barbados, without too much media interference.

Obvioulsy there are lots of rumours about them, but we should remember there is a huge part of the US and UK population who believe Simon is straight and would not even consider them a couple. They had to deal with comments after the Terri split and when they went to Barbados, like the things Leno said, but on the whole they can handle that.

They also clearly get off on flirting on Idol. The lip licking, winking, suggestive comments, touching etc. If they were out, all that would have to stop because Fox/Murdoch would never allow it once their status was confirmed. I doubt he's happy about it now, but whilst they continue to deny being gay and/or a couple then he will put up with it while the show still makes him so much money.

by Anonymousreply 560April 28, 2009 9:23 AM

Well, I certainly think that many people will be uncomfortable with displays of emotions and sexuality between two people who are a known as a couple. Especially if it's gay couple. And they are obviously very sexual with each other - I had some doubts about all this licking of the lips thing, thought it might be a coincidence, but pictures from the previous page are pretty damn convincing. But they feel free to do this kind of stuff because it goes unnoticed for most people. But if their relationship would stop being a secret, every gesture, every word, every touch will be analysed and overanalysed. And it's a big pressure.

And yes, I think Simon definitely cherish his status of sex symbol (I doubt Ryan really care). I always thought he's extremely vain and self-involved.

by Anonymousreply 561April 28, 2009 1:56 PM

Self-involvement is not only a strong suit of Simon's, but Ryan is cloaked very nicely in that characteristic as well. In fact, to be a $uccessful entertainment figure, little time can be given to relationships except those that further your career.

Which makes you wonder how they have sustained any level of a relationship all these years, especially living so far apart most of the year.

by Anonymousreply 562April 28, 2009 2:53 PM

Who knows - it seems like they have a very strong bond, and more than that - this bond became only stronger with time. I seriously think that now they care for each other more than they used to, especially Simon.

by Anonymousreply 563April 28, 2009 4:27 PM

I heard Simon will be on Ellen DeGeneres Show next week - should be fun. And article, where he disses Ryan for his love of twitter.

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by Anonymousreply 564April 28, 2009 4:38 PM

Maybe people are too harsh thinking that these two going to have serious problems after coming out (if they still going to work together)? After all, take Adam Lambert - who would have thought that openly gay contestant will be such a obvious favorite on biggest family show on FOX? But he is.

And by the way, Adam's fans are the scariest creatures in the world. I like Adam a lot, I really hope he's going to win, but I cringe when I see on forums posts about how he's going to ruin AI because they would never find someone as great and talented, how he's better than David Bowie and Freddy Mercury, threats and insults to guys from EW.com who dared to criticise him, and so on. I wasn't around when claymates were on the loose, but I can't imagine anything be worse than what's happening now. And the funniest thing - somebody said that Adam crushes on Ryan, and this poor poster was dissed and insulted for such a blasphemy. And most of the fans accept the fact that he's gay, but hated the idea of him being gay with Ryan (not like this is ever happening).

by Anonymousreply 565April 28, 2009 5:03 PM

Unlike Clay Aikin, Adam has always been out, God bless him. When Clay finally came out, I think Clay's career was hurt irreparably because he had built up his image as a straight, unslick churchgoer, which attracted a huge number of straight fans impressed with those characteristics.

I think Simon and especially Ryan will be hurt if they come out because both are on record countlessly denying being gay. They also have huge fan bases of hetero girls of all ages, many of whom have big crushes on them and some even fantasize Simon with Paula. It is only normal that people don't like to be lied to, especially by people they see on TV more often than than they see their own real friends.

by Anonymousreply 566April 28, 2009 6:02 PM

And another article on TV Guide.

"You�d keep a fourth judge next year? Yes.

Would it be Kara? I would imagine so. The only say I have is about Ryan [Seacrest], Randy [Jackson] and Paula [Abdul]. I�ve always made it clear that I wouldn�t like to do the show without them. I would fight for any of them."

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by Anonymousreply 567April 28, 2009 6:14 PM

Elton John was married, George Michael lied for years (although his career suffered, not because he came out, but because HOW he came out), some others too. Even Clay was forgiven by gay community after coming out. Maybe it's not so bad after all.

by Anonymousreply 568April 28, 2009 6:23 PM

There is another thread where Simon addresses how Adam being gay and out works better than how people in the past handled it. Draw your own conclusion as to whom he may be referring.

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by Anonymousreply 569April 28, 2009 8:20 PM

It's obvious Simon was talking mainly about Clay. He only came out when his career was in the toilet. It (and the baby) got him a People cover and $$$.

At least Adam isn't a liar.

by Anonymousreply 570April 28, 2009 8:36 PM

I have some straight friends who say Adam is a sensational performer and skies the limit for his career. When I mentioned he was out as a gay man and they said his talent is such that his gay status--like Elton John's--is not an issue and shouldn't bother the Frauen of Middle America.

by Anonymousreply 571April 28, 2009 8:47 PM

Remember this isn't the ADAM thread. I think there is one of those already.

by Anonymousreply 572April 29, 2009 1:27 AM

There is additional strain on them perpetuating the myth they are straight, whether they are a couple or not. Can it really be ego-gratifying for Ryan to have to show up at strip clubs and make dates with women (he has so little time to spare anyway) and maybe even have sex occasionally with women in order to keep the myth of heterosexuality going?

He and Simon can't hold hands in public and have to watch every word they say in case they are overheard or monitored. Even the names they have for each other, Ryan slipped once on-air and called Simon "Si" but that was probably his private name for him.

It's like having an extra-marital affair and it goes on for years. How exhausting and draining and debillating on so many levels.

Simon has had it easier, because he had Terri to tow around and other friends. But Ryan hasn't had the same thing. Ryan is the one really living a double-life, and since he spends most of his life on-air no wonder he spills the truth now and then.

Does he really think he's going to be dead within a few years? Maybe that's how he can compartmentalize it.

by Anonymousreply 573April 29, 2009 1:37 AM

"Would it be Kara? I would imagine so. The only say I have is about Ryan [Seacrest], Randy [Jackson] and Paula [Abdul]. "

This is fun, only because he was confirming the order of interest he has in his fellow on-air performers. (Kara he doesn't give a shit about.) Ryan is number one, followed by Randy - he's handy, then Paula - cause he's used to her.

by Anonymousreply 574April 29, 2009 1:39 AM

R568: Elton says his marriage was a true one, he gave it his best shot and the woman he married really loved him.

And George's lying was more verbal omission. He was out-and-about with his first partner and other lovers, he just didn't make an announcement.

Neither of these situation corresponds to the deliberate gay-baiting on AI between Simon and Ryan and also their conscious pretense of being straight.

by Anonymousreply 575April 29, 2009 1:42 AM

I agree with you, 575. I like Ryan a lot, but still, his ridiculous heterosexual posing is very annoying, and to be honest, not really convincing to anyone. As for gay-baiting on the show, at least Ryan's directed on Simon and Simon only (and usually he answers Simon's insults), while Cowell, unfortunately, can be a pretty gay-baiting to contestants as well. I hate when he says "You remind me of Clay Aiken" - and I'm not Clay's fan.

by Anonymousreply 576April 29, 2009 2:01 AM

Simon said he's in love with Paula in this week's TV Guide

by Anonymousreply 577April 29, 2009 4:01 AM

Huh?

by Anonymousreply 578April 29, 2009 4:02 AM

They say they're straight because they are. All that stuff you see on the show is for show only.

by Anonymousreply 579April 29, 2009 4:02 AM

"maybe even have sex occasionally with women"

It was more than occasionally, girl!

by Anonymousreply 580April 29, 2009 4:03 AM

Simon hearts Paula

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by Anonymousreply 581April 29, 2009 4:05 AM

You aren't "secretly in love" if you are actually saying it. You are "blatently talking bullshit."

by Anonymousreply 582April 29, 2009 4:13 AM

577,579, 580, 581 is the deluded Simon loves Paula troll. Please ignore her.

I hear Simon, Ryan and Randy spent the whole weekend in Vegas. Wonder why Simon's "true love" Paula wasn't invited, Troll? Also, why don't we see Ryan's true love, the lady bartender anymore. Did he leave her in Paris?

On a serious note, it is encouraging that Simon is addressing how gay entertainers are now being accepted. Maybe the door will open for he and Ryan to feel that it is safe to come out now.

by Anonymousreply 583April 29, 2009 4:18 AM

Simon was addressing how gay entertainers are being accepted firmly in the role of dispassionate straight record executive.

by Anonymousreply 584April 29, 2009 5:02 AM

I keep forgetting how ohnotheydidn't is populated by morons. Thanks for the reminder.

by Anonymousreply 585April 29, 2009 5:03 AM

Can't deny that Simon was hanging all over her on last Wednesday's show. Blatant!

by Anonymousreply 586April 29, 2009 5:47 AM

Wonder why Simon's "true love" Paula wasn't invited

Because it was a boys' trip. Paula is a girl.

by Anonymousreply 587April 29, 2009 5:50 AM

Did he leave her in Paris?

Maybe someone's teaching her how to dress there.

by Anonymousreply 588April 29, 2009 5:53 AM

What was the significance of Simon's toasting gesture towards Ryan during the intros?

by Anonymousreply 589April 29, 2009 5:54 AM

"I think people only get bothered really when they know somebodyx92s hiding something. [Laughs] Wex92ve had that in the past!"

Obviously refering to Clay, but he could also have been laughing because himself and Ryan have been open to so much speculation over the years.

Simon seems to have so much admiration for Adam and the way he has refused to compromise his personality/sexuality. He's right to see it as progession for the show, but i don't believe it will encourage either Simon or Ryan to come out.

It's one thing being an individual performer who has never claimed to be straight, but Simon and Ryan would have a huge amount of attention to deal with. Elton and George M are examples of handling it brilliantly and lets not forget Michael was outed in the worst possible way, but there is no example of how Hollywood would react to an A list gay couple.

Simon and Ryan are quite comfortable with the speculation. Despite the bearding, if they were that paronoid about rumours, they would not flirt so openly on air. Simon doesn't give a fuck because he has Clifford and Murdoch behind him, who won't allow him to be outed - for different reasons obviously.

There is a vast difference between people thinking they are a couple and actually knowing they are a couple.

Ryan and Simon are happy to settle for the former.

by Anonymousreply 590April 29, 2009 10:19 AM

Hell with outing, it's a little problem comparing to their obvious addiction to fucking fake tan. Ryan looks horrible because of it.

by Anonymousreply 591April 29, 2009 2:44 PM

Since Simon is having a tanning salon installed his new mansion, I guess we have to look forward to a deeper orange Ryan and a lobster red Simon next year. :)

by Anonymousreply 592April 29, 2009 2:50 PM

I really annoyed by Simon's constant digs at Clay (and I really dislike Aiken for some reasons). It seems so hypocritical to me, because I'm sure he's gay. His fake romantic relationship with Terry are much worse that anything Clay (or Ryan, another wictim of his gay digs) ever did. And making fun of other people's sexuality, especially if you are gay yourself, is very low. And I'm sure Simon is gay, I can accept a little possibility that he and Ryan are not lovers, but I just don't believe he could be straight.

I really like Simon, he's very clever, funny and fascinating personality, but things like that are really disappointing. And I look at it as a proof of the fact that he's not going to come out in the near future (or ever). Because people will be much less accepting in his case - because of this remarks, and his longterm relationship - than in Ryan's case. I think Ryan's coming out will be a little more shocking, than, let's say, Anderson Cooper's admission of homosexuality (i./e., not really surprising to anybody). But Simon's coming out will be a big shock, and some people are going to gloat and point fingers.

by Anonymousreply 593April 29, 2009 3:02 PM

R-585

Offtopic, but I SOOO agree about ONTD. This place is killing my faith in humanity (not very strong to begin with).

But even underaged retarted idiots polluting ONTD mostly think that this Saula story is bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 594April 29, 2009 3:07 PM

Anybody know an example of a gay man who acrively denied his gayness, bearded, but then came out and didn't suffered the consequences?

by Anonymousreply 595April 29, 2009 6:58 PM

I have love/hate relationship with Seacrest. From listening him on the radio (Idol don't really counts, cause his part mostly scripted), it seems like he's clever, funny, self-deprecating and sometimes insightful guy, who takes his work for what it's worth - nothing serious, groundbreaking, only silly entertainment. But I just don't get the reasons behind his seemingly genuine interest to all this famous scandalous trainwreks like Britney, Lindsay, Miley and so on. Sometimes he acts like fat ugly lonely gay loser living in parent's basement who lives through perezhilton.com or ONTD. Only Ryan is attractive, successful and actually capable to sexually attract people. But sometimes I doubt he really think so about himself. It really annoys me about him.

by Anonymousreply 596April 29, 2009 7:47 PM

What happened to Seacrest's scruffy phase? Or his eyebrows, for that matter?

Though I wouldn't have guessed it, he looks a bit closer to something lifelike with a bit of facial hair.

All scrubbed and shorn and polished and shiny he "cleans up" only to look sweaty and nervous and alien-like, as though his skin is a host for something sinister, pulsing barely beneath the surface.

by Anonymousreply 597April 29, 2009 7:55 PM

Ryan's latest bizarre craze is being on his Twitter account 24/7. Even Simon seems exasperated by why a sane person would tell a person he doesn't know all his personal habits, behaviour and feelings about the day.

A psychologist would have a field day analyzing this behaviour. The conclusion would probably be something to the effect that Twitter type people can't sustain close relationships and consequently must share their lives with total strangers. That way they can't get hurt by anyone because no one means anything to them.

by Anonymousreply 598April 29, 2009 8:12 PM

Simon's just exasperated he didn't think of opening up an account first, and now Ryan has nearly a million followers. And Ryan's not on it 24/7. He certainly wasn't on it all last weekend......

Plus a lot of tweets are from his producer Sadao.

by Anonymousreply 599April 29, 2009 8:23 PM

Hmmm, I think Ryan talks more about his addiction to twitter than actually twitting. He twitts not nearly as much as some famous people on twitter - and half of his updates are different news, interesting links and updates posted by his producer. This guy also updates Ryan's site, and i heard that Ryan complains on the radio about how he pretty often has no control or knowledge about content of his site.

by Anonymousreply 600April 29, 2009 8:25 PM

"But I just don't get the reasons behind his seemingly genuine interest to all this famous scandalous trainwreks like Britney, Lindsay, Miley and so on. Sometimes he acts like fat ugly lonely gay loser living in parent's basement who lives through perezhilton.com or ONTD."

I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with the fact his target audience(especially in E!) are all into those things. :p

You honestly think Ryan gives a flying fuck about Speidi outside of his job?

by Anonymousreply 601April 29, 2009 8:28 PM

Look at this thread and picture in it. Hysterically funny and awkward picture of little Ryan with make-up on.

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by Anonymousreply 602April 29, 2009 8:29 PM

The make-up was probably the work of his mom. Plus, considering it was the 80s, the color and shape of the eye shadow is not that bad.

He sure looked different as a kid, though. I like him better now, but only when he doesn't have that stupid orange that makes him look like a 40+ year old man trying too hard to look young and healthy by baking his skin. It looks like when he showers it comes off as brown pieces of clay.

Actually, I'd take that blue eye make-up over the fake tan.

by Anonymousreply 603April 29, 2009 8:45 PM

About Speidy - hell no! About this fucked up modern divas like Miley and Britney - maybe. But I hope he's just faking it.

by Anonymousreply 604April 29, 2009 9:03 PM

Few recent pictures from his radio show - it seems he almost alway rocks the stubble on the radio or when Idol is no on. And he looks manly, natural, handsome and attractive. While on idol lately he looks like Oompa Loompa.

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by Anonymousreply 605April 29, 2009 9:09 PM

"Wonder why Simon's "true love" Paula wasn't invited"

Because it's a seeeeeeecret love. Didn't ya hear? So seeeeeecret that they maul each other whenever a camera gets within 50 feet. But they could never been seen hanging out innocently! They must only give suggestive looks and feel each other up, and make out in a skit for the show! That's a true seeeeeecret romance!

by Anonymousreply 606April 29, 2009 9:51 PM

You'll notice that Simon is always orange on the show too. It's clearly the make-up. I have no idea why the contestants look different, but I think it may have something to do with how long they are supposed to be on camera and under the lights. If Randy were white I bet he would be orange too.

Obviously, women's make-up is done differently.

by Anonymousreply 607April 29, 2009 9:57 PM

Perhaps only Ryan wears the orange make-up, and it just rubs off on Simon.

by Anonymousreply 608April 29, 2009 10:48 PM

Guess Adam was reading the blogs and decided not to make goo-goo eyes at Ryan this week (or lick his lips).

I also wondered at Simon's toasting Ryan at the intro. But at least Simon also kept his eyes on Ryan when Ryan was doing his intro from the judge's station. That's always sweet.

by Anonymousreply 609April 30, 2009 2:30 AM

I heard Carson Daly was dissing Ryan on his twitter - what's up with these two?

by Anonymousreply 610April 30, 2009 3:46 AM

Wow, Ryan sucked Adam dry today. In a figurative sense, of course.

by Anonymousreply 611April 30, 2009 3:50 AM

Two things. When Ryan went down to the judges' table, he made a point of touching Simon's arm inconspicuously.

And what was that thing Simon did, running his finger over his lips? Ryan certainly wasn't looking at him at the time, and I don't think anyone else was, either.

by Anonymousreply 612April 30, 2009 3:53 AM

I have seen Simon do that finger to lip thing when he is being interviewed at times. I think it is similar to a nervous tic.

by Anonymousreply 613April 30, 2009 4:02 AM

Simon about Ryan - you'll never guess, he compare Ryan to annoying little dog! Wow, this Simon is SO creative.

Simon on his �frenemy� Ryan Seacrest: �If we were dogs, I�m a German shepherd and Ryan is a little Chihuahua who wants to play with the big dog. � Occasionally you�ve just got to swat him away. But let me also say we are very, very good friends. We hang out socially.�

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by Anonymousreply 614April 30, 2009 4:31 AM

Simon still makes it seem as if he is the superior one in the relationship. Not only that, when he says that he has to swat him away--he seems to be alluding to gay Ryan wanting to get closer to Simon, and straight Simon will have none of that. Such a friend.

by Anonymousreply 615April 30, 2009 4:35 AM

I enjoyed last elimination episode so much - Ryan was cruel, bitchy and dissy, and now chickens on Adam's boards are going crazy. One of them actually wrote that Ryan stripped her from her innocence with the way he treated Adam. GREAT!

by Anonymousreply 616April 30, 2009 8:51 AM

The Idol make up artists should be fired immediately. Watch Simon on X Factor or BGT and he never looks as orange.

Ryan also looks much hotter away from Idol. The less effort Ryan makes in terms of grooming, the better he looks.

Although remember they have just been to Vegas and obviously spent time poolside.

Simon runs his fingers over his lips all the time, or touches his face. Anyone remember that strange 'half moose' sign he used to do?! They are all nervous tics. Question is, why is he nervous when Ryan is near him? Maybe he thought Ry would go in for another kiss?

by Anonymousreply 617April 30, 2009 9:04 AM

"Although remember they have just been to Vegas and obviously spent time poolside."

And/or went to a tanning parlor in Vegas together. Ryan just gets oranger and Simon gets redder. Such a couple.

by Anonymousreply 618April 30, 2009 2:49 PM

Ryan twittered that he and Randy are invited to the premiere of Simon's new house, which is, as they say, absolutely amazing. Later Ryan did interview with Randy about it, said that they are the only one who invited, and it seems like Ryan knew much more details about this house than Randy.

Link to podcasts.

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by Anonymousreply 619April 30, 2009 5:14 PM

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if their newest bff Harvey Levin and his TMZ crew camp out there hoping for a chance to get in.

I am pretty sure Simon has a circle of Brit friends here in the states. I am surprised he wouldn't invite them as well--if he is going to so much trouble.

by Anonymousreply 620April 30, 2009 6:10 PM

When Ryan put his hand up in front of Simon's face last night, I really thought - just for one second - that Simon was going to pull Ryan down onto his lap.

by Anonymousreply 621April 30, 2009 6:34 PM

"I really thought - just for one second - that Simon was going to pull Ryan down onto his lap."

I bet the thought occurred to him. Simon loves to mess with people and he especially likes to get a (um) rise out of Ryan any chance he gets.

by Anonymousreply 622April 30, 2009 6:39 PM

Those Vegas photos were interesting.

Ironical Ryan and Simon at a club called TRYST.

I wonder if Ryan was checking the time on his phone, rather than a call, cause all the pics show the guys looking bored and not talking to anyone.

by Anonymousreply 623April 30, 2009 6:40 PM

IMHO, it looked more to me as if they had had an argument and since they weren't speaking, Ryan checked his phone for calls.

by Anonymousreply 624April 30, 2009 7:29 PM

"The only say I have is about Ryan [Seacrest], Randy [Jackson] and Paula [Abdul]. I�ve always made it clear that I wouldn�t like to do the show without them. I would fight for any of them."

This is quite patronizing. It makes it seem like the only reason any of them are still on the show is because of Simon's beneficence. Maybe it's true, though.

by Anonymousreply 625April 30, 2009 11:33 PM

On last night's show, did you see Paula leaning over in Simon's direction onto the table, fake tits displayed in all their glory, and Simon's eyes straying straight toward her cleavage like magnets?

Hot.

by Anonymousreply 626April 30, 2009 11:34 PM

No. I tend to block bullshit showmances from my brain R-626

by Anonymousreply 627May 1, 2009 12:10 AM

Check this affronted mommy out! LOL.

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by Anonymousreply 628May 1, 2009 12:23 AM

Do you think Ryan's going to bring his new gal to Simon's house?

by Anonymousreply 629May 1, 2009 12:26 AM

Only if there are photographers around and he needs an excuse for staying the night.

by Anonymousreply 630May 1, 2009 2:10 AM

Looks like the troll was let out of its cage this evening. Just don't respond to its obvious postings.

by Anonymousreply 631May 1, 2009 2:28 AM

Did anyone listen to his show when this broad called up? What did he say about Paris girl? A comment on that blog says he "didn't claim her" and omitted the word boyfriend. What a stupid woman.

by Anonymousreply 632May 1, 2009 2:40 AM

His house looks nothing like I thought it would.

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by Anonymousreply 633May 1, 2009 3:02 AM

No wonder he was sloshed on Grammy nite- that man likes his vino.

by Anonymousreply 634May 1, 2009 3:33 AM

"I really thought - just for one second - that Simon was going to pull Ryan down onto his lap."

That's funny - it just looked to me like he wanted Seacrest to get the fuck out of his way.

by Anonymousreply 635May 1, 2009 3:38 AM

For some reason, it was the lap pool that conjured up dirty images for me. You?

by Anonymousreply 636May 1, 2009 3:41 AM

Whenever Ryan stands next to Randy I don't feel any chemistry between them. In fact, Randy doesn't even look at Ryan. But whenever Ryan stands next to Simon, you will see Simon wearing a cute grin and shooting tender glances at him, while Ryan tries hard to read the cue cards.

by Anonymousreply 637May 1, 2009 3:46 AM

One of those loveseats in Seacrest's screening room looks like it gets quite a bit of wear.

by Anonymousreply 638May 1, 2009 4:48 AM

R-633 t

Why you was surprised by his house? I don't question you, just want to know what you think. I remember watching this pictures, and thinking his house looks very good - very comfortable, sort of warm and not pretentious. I really liked it, but I heard he doesn't like it anymore because it's too big for him. Supposedly he has another place now, but hides it from the press for some time.

by Anonymousreply 639May 1, 2009 9:45 AM

R-621

Heh, Simon and Kara were late after the break, and Ryan, I think, wanted to mess with Simon a little bit, standing right in front of him on the way of the camera, and Simon started messing with him in return by reading Ryan's lines from teleprompter. I guess Ryan hates when Simon does it, because he tried to cover his mouth. I never had an impression that Simon wanted to pull him on his lap, but it still was very cute moment.

by Anonymousreply 640May 1, 2009 9:55 AM

R-639, It probably has the same address as the one Simon just moved out of.

by Anonymousreply 641May 1, 2009 9:56 AM

And another thing - as soon as Ryan covered his mouth, Simon stopped reading teleprompter. I bet they fight about all the time. And Simon rarely does it this season, although in previous seasons he did it very often.

by Anonymousreply 642May 1, 2009 9:59 AM

R 617 t

I watched earlier episodes from this season, and noticed that Ryan gets more orange with every episode. Simon was red as a tomato since the beginning, but Ryan in first live episodes looked great and natural. Maybe a little bit of tan, but overall, very good.

by Anonymousreply 643May 1, 2009 10:06 AM

Abouth this whole offended mommy debacle - i read this article called "Warning to Ryan Seacrest's Girlfriend" yesterday, thought it's a complete bullshit and actually was very surprised when Ryan invited author of this article for a showdown on his radio show. I heard audio, of course, and he NEVER admitted that this woman from parisian pictures is really his girlfriend. He said "my alleged girlftiend", he said "relationship I might have or not have", he never said anything about her, what she thinks about his commitment issues, he never acknowledged her as a girlfriend. When this blogger Jackie, who, by the way, was extremely condescending (calling him Ry-Ry WTF), after his "alleged girlfriend" comment said "Yeah, right, we saw your pictures", he was completely dumbfounded, and someone in his studio laughed.

Actually, I really doubt he saw this girl after their trip to Paris, and this interview only confirmed my suspicions. It's not like he's one of this famous people who are extremely secretive about their personal life. He talks about it on the radio, when he had stable and constant beard Shana he talked about her from time to time, but he didn't say anything about this girl.

by Anonymousreply 644May 1, 2009 10:28 AM

Oh, forgot about link to article and audio from Ryan's show.

And another thing about this story - I was actually surprised by the fact that Ryan was really upset and hurt because of this article. He actually invited her for debate, bringing attention to her completely obscure and unimportant blog, he sounded off, snarky and upsed for some time during this broadcast - and this is Ryan Seacrest, guy who heard it all, who was bashed by the media for years, especially in the beginning of his career, and who many times stated that he has very thick skin and doesn't let criticism hurt him. Why this stupid article was so painful for him?

Of course, it's a specualtion from my part, but if Ryan and Simon are really in the relationship, it's obviously a longterm and very difficult bond. I'm sure they had a lot of problems, and maybe, just maybe, Ryan was the one who wanted to keep it safe during sour times, and fought for this relationship. And because of that, accusations that he will leave and runaway from his hypothetical partner after the first sign of problems were so offending for him.

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by Anonymousreply 645May 1, 2009 10:43 AM

I can understand what you are saying 645 but the reason for Ryan getting so upset could be the complete opposite.

He may not have had problems with Simon (taking the theory they are together) but he may have been stuck in an unhappy relationship previously and stayed too long when he should really have left.

Since having a happy and fulfilling LTR with Simon, it may have made him realise that he was wrong to invest so much in a previous r/ship which was destructive - hence his reason for telling the guy who called him to leave his wife.

I just presume this because from watching Ryan since season 1, he has become a lot more confident as person since he met Simon. He was so needy and eager to please early on, yet i don't get that impression now. He seems more equal to Simon now and i think that Simon can take the credit for that - he has given Ryan that confidence which he may have lacked in a previous relationship.

by Anonymousreply 646May 1, 2009 11:05 AM

Hmm, to be honest, I disagree, 646. I doubt Ryan is really happy person in his current state - he still very insecure, he still working himself to the ground, and he, I believe, forced to lie about his relationship, and not really happy about it (Jay Leno's interview was big thing, and it showed a lot of fucked up things, together with some very sweet things).

And we don't know anything about his previous relationship, so it's a big stretch to talk about it.

I missed season 1, but I think his desire to please can be explained by presence of Brian Dunkelman, and not Simon.

by Anonymousreply 647May 1, 2009 11:24 AM

Ok so i can agree with the last 2 points 647, although im certain Ryan was trying to impress Simon as a potential fuck/BF not just in a professional sense over Dunkleman. Where as since season 6 Ryan has realised that he has a big impact on Simon and can compete with him in terms of flirting and general 'oneupmanship'.

Mostly disagree with the first point, i think Ryan is happy - of course im sure he would be more content if he was out and accepted, but that's obvious. In terms of his life right now, i think he's happy with Simon and both of them are workaholics - they derive pleasure from their work and success, so i don't think he sees 'working himself into the ground' as a bad thing.

Leno showed they were fucked up in the sense of how they try to hide their r/ship - the daddy and incest references and the general panic when Leno pulled out the jet ski pics, when they really could have handled it all a lot calmer. We should remember this was the first time they were confronted on air with implications they are dating, so they had no experience of how to handle this.

I don't think it means they are fucked up as a couple - i think they are good for each other, but constantly living a pretence is tiring and Ryan doesn't handle it was well as Simon.

I wonder if one of them wants to come out, but the other doesn't or if they are both in agreement that they must be in the closet and beard from time to time?

by Anonymousreply 648May 1, 2009 11:46 AM

Maybe it is a real relationship he's trying to keep on the down low for some reason. If she was a beard, he wouldn't be so secretive.

Although why would he be surprised anyone saw pictures of him "attacking" that girl from behind? They were all over TMZ. He crazy.

Or it could be that he was embarrassed about the negative reaction he saw from TMZ commentators and decided to cut his losses.

by Anonymousreply 649May 1, 2009 1:38 PM

Why is Simon constantly getting up and going outside the studio this season? It's not like he was out for a smoke - the EW guy said he was just standing around talking to Randy in the doorway. Trying to get away from somebody?

by Anonymousreply 650May 1, 2009 1:39 PM

I don't see why Seacrest would be so freaked out over that blog... isn't he the one who's always said over the years that he'll drop a girlfriend over the slightest thing?

by Anonymousreply 651May 1, 2009 1:43 PM

P.S. I just realized the only reason he was so upset was that it was "fake" upset - he wanted to up his het cred with the listening audience, ergo played up that blog.

by Anonymousreply 652May 1, 2009 1:47 PM

P.P.S. - he probably also did it to monitor the reaction. If he sees that a lot of people agree that she's his girlfriend and defend him (tell the blogger to stfu), bet your bottom $ that chick will make another appearance somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 653May 1, 2009 1:58 PM

623, 624

I saw other pictures from the same night, and they were talking and smiling to each other, and looked very comfortable together.

by Anonymousreply 654May 1, 2009 3:08 PM

Link to example

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by Anonymousreply 655May 1, 2009 3:16 PM

I agree with the conspiracy theory that Ryan was "fake" angry. This "blogger" might even be part of the elaborate plan to bring even more attention to Ryan's heterosexual Paris connection.

By ranting on about this non-event on his radio show, he can bring up his recent heavily photographed het connection again as if it were real, churn it around and around, become more indignant with a "blogger" who had supposedly taken issue with something unimportant regarding the connection, and this Paris lady doesn't even have to make an appearance. Oh the trouble some people go through to perpetuate a lie.

by Anonymousreply 656May 1, 2009 3:47 PM

Anyone listening to Ryan this morning?

He's very giddy and excited about last night at Simon's. He said when he left and went to his car he found rose petals shaped 'SC'!

His staff all said how sweet this was but Ryan said it was not cute and the right thing to do for 'boy to boy/colleague'.

Obviously Ryan would have prefered 'RS' left there!

They were having a lot of fun with it. There is other stuff in his house that bears the 'SC' hallmark.

They are such a bizarre couple.

by Anonymousreply 657May 1, 2009 5:02 PM

656, well, he could a better job defending his heterosexuality without calling her alleged girlfriend and refusing to confirm anything about this "relationship". And he was sincerely upset, and this guy has a thick skin.

by Anonymousreply 658May 1, 2009 5:06 PM

657, I listened only interviews, and he sounds like he's in a good mood. And he's wearing a scarf - insanely gay, to be honest. And judging by twitter, he went to sleep very late.

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by Anonymousreply 659May 1, 2009 5:10 PM

He looks adroable! and very happy. I approve of both.

by Anonymousreply 660May 1, 2009 5:12 PM

Could that scarf be hiding something? Like a hickey in the shape of the letters "SC"? :)

by Anonymousreply 661May 1, 2009 6:03 PM

"Why is Simon constantly getting up and going outside the studio this season? It's not like he was out for a smoke - the EW guy said he was just standing around talking to Randy in the doorway. Trying to get away from somebody?

by: like Ryan?"

Absolutely! That's why he invited him to his new house. To get away from him.

by Anonymousreply 662May 1, 2009 8:11 PM

Regarding 657's link about Ryan finding rose petals in his car and his leaving late: if you recall from the link to Ryan's interview with Randy, he was supposed to pick up Randy when they were going to Simon's house "premiere." My question is, did he leave Randy at Simon's? Or did Randy's wife pick him up earlier? Hmmm?

by Anonymousreply 663May 1, 2009 11:45 PM

I don't know what the hell kind of crazy is going on in this thread, but I did love the slideshow of Ryan's house. It's stunning, lavish yet comfortable and tasteful. I would love to live like that!

by Anonymousreply 664May 2, 2009 12:00 AM

[italic]A psychologist would have a field day analyzing this behaviour. The conclusion would probably be something to the effect that Twitter type people can't sustain close relationships and consequently must share their lives with total strangers. That way they can't get hurt by anyone because no one means anything to them. [/italic]

What the actual fuck?

by Anonymousreply 665May 2, 2009 12:10 AM

Damn, that boy has some guns on him. Freakish.

by Anonymousreply 666May 2, 2009 12:29 AM

He obviously doesn't spend the night, no matter what they do.

by Anonymousreply 667May 2, 2009 12:30 AM

R640 - it was Paula already at the table - or she'd never left - and Simon, Randy and Kara were all coming back to the judge's table and Ryan teased them about being out in the parking lot (who knows).

Simon was mocking by reading the teleprompter (but his mic wasn't on) and it was distracting Ryan, so Ryan put his hand up to block Simon's view of the teleprompter but Ryan wasn't looking at Simon and didn't block Simon's view. I don't think Ryan meant to put his hand over Simon's mouth. If he wanted to, he would have done so.

by Anonymousreply 668May 2, 2009 1:10 AM

Ryan in a scarf - Paris girl must be dressing him.

by Anonymousreply 669May 2, 2009 1:22 AM

R667

How do we know Ryan doesn't spend the night? On the nights he has to get up the next morning before dawn to do his radio show, it's not likely he'd spend the night at Simon's. The other nights? Why wouldn't he spend the night at Simon's?

I'm already amazed at the whole rose petals bit, if true that is wildly romantic. Certainly with the story - true or false - Ryan is making a point of Simon's having romantic feelings for him.

Poor Ryan must feel like a split-personality most of the time.

by Anonymousreply 670May 2, 2009 1:26 AM

Doesn't Simon ever invite Randy's wife to these shindigs?

by Anonymousreply 671May 2, 2009 1:35 AM

I bet they had a sex party - Simon probably hired some hos.

by Anonymousreply 672May 2, 2009 2:12 AM

Murdoch's NY Post published an absolutely vicious set of Seacrest jogging photos and all but called him a fag. I wonder if Fox is pissed that the beard hasn't made another appearance.

by Anonymousreply 673May 2, 2009 2:25 AM

Yes, r672, this reminds me so much of all the heterosexual sex parties I've been to. The ones that end with one man spelling out a message in rose petals for another. Good times. Good, heterosexual times.

by Anonymousreply 674May 2, 2009 3:07 AM

I ask you, when did Cowell find the time to pull such a stunt? When Seacrest was getting laid, that's when.

by Anonymousreply 675May 2, 2009 3:28 AM

The romantic rose petals reminds me of Ryan recounting a surprise he had for someone special (whom he never mentioned) I believe on Valentine's Day 2008.

He went into elaborate detail getting a hot air balloon arranged and many other things I can't really recall as a big surprise. He was almost breathless sharing it with his listeners. At the time I thought he was just playing the het card. Now I wonder if the special someone was none other than romantic Simon. Does anyone else remember this?

by Anonymousreply 676May 2, 2009 3:40 AM

Could you give me a link, 673?

by Anonymousreply 677May 2, 2009 3:41 AM

I love this threads, but c'mon, guys, too much slashing. In immortal words of Randy Jackson - Let's keeping it real, yo! Well, as real as possible.

by Anonymousreply 678May 2, 2009 3:44 AM

Valentines 2008 - isn't that around the time he was dating Sophie Monk? Or was it the Aussie tanning girl?

by Anonymousreply 679May 2, 2009 4:15 AM

This is hilarious. "Ryan Seacrest, physcially unable to get his body to move to the beat in even the most rudimentary back-and-forth motion. Truly glorious."

He must be absolute shite in bed. Or a true bottom.

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by Anonymousreply 680May 2, 2009 4:18 AM

here's the post blog.

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by Anonymousreply 681May 2, 2009 4:29 AM

Although it can be seen as a subtle outing of Cowell, too. "Mostly at the hands of Simon 'come out of the closet' Cowell".... hmmmm.

by Anonymousreply 682May 2, 2009 4:47 AM

I agree, R-682, it was very ambiguously stated on purpose. They are crafty that way. Some (mostly chicks) will see that remark meaning that Simon is insinuating Ryan is gay all the time on Idol, and others (like many of us) will see it that Ryan is gay with Simon and the article is telling Simon to come out of the closet.

by Anonymousreply 683May 2, 2009 5:15 AM

They were referring tu the episode from season six, when Ryan said "Stay out of my closet", and Simon answered "Come out". I doubt they were outing Simon.

Ryan, on the other hand, once again is an easy target. To be honest, this endless attacks from the press on famous people with questionable sexuality seems so homophobic to me. Jesus, guy was jogging with his trainer - and they presented this normal innocent thing like something scandalous, as if he was caught near gay bar called MANHOLE, on the knees in the dirt, sucking big blck dick.

by Anonymousreply 684May 2, 2009 5:32 AM

I disagree -- they should have simply put "come out" if they were referencing that direct quote.

by Anonymousreply 685May 2, 2009 5:51 AM

Anyway, Ryan looks like he's about ready to collapse -- was he coughing, or does he always run with his tongue hanging halfway out of his mouth?

by Anonymousreply 686May 2, 2009 5:53 AM

If they would wrote only "come out", very few people would get it - they changed to clear up the real meaning of Simon's words.

by Anonymousreply 687May 2, 2009 6:03 AM

Well, I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

by Anonymousreply 688May 2, 2009 6:09 AM

686, of course NY POST (and TMZ) chosen the worst pictures (as they always do), because he looks fine (and even more gay) on others pictures. (see link)

I was surprised with two thing. First - how much better he looks with pale skin. Second - how in the hell he has an energy to jog and work out with all his work? He probably one of this really energetic people who can't spend even a few minutes without doing something.

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by Anonymousreply 689May 2, 2009 6:31 AM

Why everybody so sure he didn't spend the night (or at least big portion of it) at Simon's house? Cause he wrote something on his twitter? Well, he could lie, duh. And this thing with petals could happen in the morning, or when they arrived, or any other moment of the evening - Ryan just felt he HAS TO mention the fact that he actually left Simon's house and went home, so he used this story with petals.

And by the way, he really was in the good mood yesterday - even his co-workers from E! mentioned this fact.

by Anonymousreply 690May 2, 2009 7:01 AM

And yes, his house is awesome. Strange, but I expected something more... "in your face" expensive and pretentious. Dude has a good taste. Well, good enough to hire a designer with a good taste.

by Anonymousreply 691May 2, 2009 7:57 AM

Snapshots from the shows this season, with Simon looking at Simon. Well, it was very easy to do this snapshots, because Simon spending a lot of time watching Ryan this season.

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by Anonymousreply 692May 2, 2009 8:43 AM

Another collection.

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by Anonymousreply 693May 2, 2009 8:45 AM

Snaps with Ryan in gray suit are very interesting. Randy was late after the break, and decided to stand next to Ryan during intro. Simon was looking at two of them, and few times gestured to Randy to go sit in his fucking chair (Ryan in the end was annoyed too).

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by Anonymousreply 694May 2, 2009 8:49 AM

And last two pictures - also after the break. Randy was... ahem... humping Simon (Joel McHale on The Soup compared this moment with the video of a woman and polar bears from the berlin zoo), rocking from side to side and blocking Simon from watching Ryan. Didn't help. Simon really watched Ryan non-stop, hardly paying attention to Randy who was almost on his lap.

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by Anonymousreply 695May 2, 2009 8:53 AM

Simon looking at Ryan, course.

by Anonymousreply 696May 2, 2009 8:55 AM

I think the moment that convinced me that something was up between these two was when Ryan kissed Simon's head. It was the way Simon reacted and Ryan's inability to read his lines with Simon staring at him. Then Ryan said "relax, it didn't mean anything". That was the most telling line.

I think that is why I still like Ryan, because he does seem to have a hard time with being in the closet.

by Anonymousreply 697May 2, 2009 1:07 PM

Ryan barely laid his lips on Simon's head. He came in at an angle.

by Anonymousreply 698May 2, 2009 1:12 PM

What did Ryan say, exactly, about the rose petals? Can anyone give a rough transcript?

by Anonymousreply 699May 2, 2009 3:28 PM

I agree Ryan has a hard time being closeted--especially if he indeed has been in a long relationship with a man he so clearly is proud of.

I honestly think Ryan is pressured to appear with an attractive lady from time to time and talk like a het frat boy on his radio show, to balance out the loving way he talks about Simon and the rose petal-like touches he reveals about their (um) friendship--yeah right, like straight guys would act that way to another straight guy. I also think Randy either doesn't go to these events all the time as Ryan says, or goes and leaves early. It's about appearances, Baby.

by Anonymousreply 700May 2, 2009 3:57 PM

"the rose petal-like touches he reveals"

M!A!R!Y!

by Anonymousreply 701May 2, 2009 4:03 PM

Petal-like?

Dude... Seriously, dude...

by Anonymousreply 702May 2, 2009 4:06 PM

"Petal-like" was metaphorical as well as referencing a recent event (recounted by Ryan on his radio show) wherein Simon put rose petals with an "SC" shape in Ryan's car. Even if he were kidding, that is a rather romantic idea about a guy from another guy.

by Anonymousreply 703May 2, 2009 4:20 PM

SC as Simon Cowell or as Seacrest&Cowell?

by Anonymousreply 704May 2, 2009 6:07 PM

SC as Simon Cowell or as Seacrest&Cowell?

by Anonymousreply 705May 2, 2009 6:08 PM

No way would Simon put anyone's name before his. Definately for "Simon Cowell".

The petals however...

by Anonymousreply 706May 2, 2009 9:49 PM

Video of Ryan with fans hear some medical center. It's funny, but it seems like most of his random videos and pictures made near restaurants or medical centers. He looks good, but VERY tired. And I guess Simon is in Britain on the week-end?

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by Anonymousreply 707May 3, 2009 3:15 AM

Ryan looked kind of pissy towards the end. I think he wanted them to leave as he was going in the med center. Wonder why?

by Anonymousreply 708May 3, 2009 3:44 AM

Article about Ryan saying that Simon is going to leave after next season.

First of all, it's funny how Ryan and Simon separately ALWAYS add Randy to their relationship. It's like - I'm going to see Simon's new house, but with Randy. Simon said to me and Randy. I wonder what Randy's wife thinks about this shit. If these two were pussyhounding bachelors, as they claim to be, I wouldn't let my husband near them and their constant partying.

And important part - about Ryan's statement. I think about two scenarios: most likely Ryan uses his influence in the media to help Simon in the process of negotiations about new contract. His words made the risk of Simon actually leaving The Idol much more considerable. I think in this moment Simon (and Paula) do the same thing - they do anything to scare FOX to get as much money as possible. And Ryan is helping Simon with this mission. I think this is the most believable scenario.

Second scenario - Simon really wants to leave Idol. It's possible only if he seriously considering the start of his own show, like american version of X-Factor. Sorry, but I'm not buying this "too tired to do so many shows" bullshit. He will leave Idol only for his own show. But it's a big risk - legal actions from FOX and Fuller, show being a failure (let's be honest, you can't be absolutely sure in show's success, especially in America. Idol was lucky to get exactly right chemistry and vibe), constant comparison with Idol, accusations of copycating (because I'm absolutely sure Simon will want Ryan to go with him, and Paula is a very good partner, and Randy is a very good friend) - all this factors make his leaving of Idol incredibly risky. All the while he can easily preserve the status quo - get his british shows, do Idol, getting insane amount of money and power, if he wants. So I'm sure that his exit from Idol is not nearly as undoubted, as he and Ryan want people to believe.

And another important thing - Simon's and Ryan's contracts are ending in the same time. So it will be possible for them to leave Idol together. If they'll want, of course.

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by Anonymousreply 709May 3, 2009 3:45 AM

Well, they wouldn't leave him alone for a long time, and visiting of a medical center is a private thing.

by Anonymousreply 710May 3, 2009 4:45 AM

He really is popular with girls. And he seems like a nice guy - you see how tired he is, but still smiling and being polite.

by Anonymousreply 711May 3, 2009 4:51 AM

About Simon leaving AI... he seems more relaxed in his British shows. He's much more compassionate with the contestants.

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by Anonymousreply 712May 3, 2009 10:02 AM

Because that's his role, 712. really, we discussed this before. Some people say Simon looks bored and angry, some people say he became too soft and kind. I think he pretty much the same - he looks bored from time to time, but it happened in all previous seasons.

by Anonymousreply 713May 3, 2009 10:10 AM

Simon also has more power on his Brit shows. He doesn't even have producer credit on AI. More power might affect his mood in a positive way in England.

by Anonymousreply 714May 3, 2009 10:41 AM

"He really is popular with girls."

And he really, really likes them too.

by Anonymousreply 715May 3, 2009 1:36 PM

What business is it of Seacrest's to broadcast a definitive "he will leave" statement like that?

by Anonymousreply 716May 3, 2009 2:04 PM

I'm still mesmerized about Simon leaving a message in rose petals to his man.

by Anonymousreply 717May 3, 2009 2:20 PM

One of the maids probably did it.

by Anonymousreply 718May 3, 2009 2:36 PM

I can't believe there have been literally thousands of posts made on two guys who will never come out of the closet (not to mention it's unknown if they're even gay and/or together).

by Anonymousreply 719May 3, 2009 3:24 PM

"What business is it of Seacrest's to broadcast a definitive "he will leave" statement like that?"

Correct me If I'm wrong, but didn't Simon say the exact same thing in countless interviews? Not exactly big news from Ryan's show.

by Anonymousreply 720May 3, 2009 3:36 PM

"Well, they wouldn't leave him alone for a long time, and visiting of a medical center is a private thing."

I meant, I wonder why he is going to the doctor.

by Anonymousreply 721May 3, 2009 3:38 PM

Cowell has said he might leave, not that he definitely will leave. In face, in the American press he backtracked from that "might" statement anyway.

by Anonymousreply 722May 3, 2009 3:40 PM

^in fact

by Anonymousreply 723May 3, 2009 3:40 PM

He's getting prepped for a vasectomy, 721.

by Anonymousreply 724May 3, 2009 3:41 PM

He also said that he really feels nine seasons is enough, 'probably time to move on'...bla bla...

So again, nothing earth shattering about Ryan saying Simon told them he thinks season nine is the end.

and "Who is Ryan to make a definitive statement...?"

He didn't. He merely repeated what Simon told him. Too bad it isn't to your liking.

by Anonymousreply 725May 3, 2009 4:26 PM

Private conversation /= broadcasting said conversation to the world.

by Anonymousreply 726May 3, 2009 4:37 PM

Ryan said it because Simon wanted him to say that. There is no other way. It's just a part of the campaign to scare the FOX shitless. Ryan is very clever and very careful with business things. And he protective of Simon's business also. I remember his first interview with Cooper, after Anderson did 60 minutes with Simon Cowell, and Anderson talked about Simon's wealth, how much money he makes on Idol, and Ryan bleeped all the numbers.

by Anonymousreply 727May 3, 2009 5:38 PM

It probably was some cosmetical procedure, definitely nothing serious. For real problem he would go to really hidden and secreted center, not in this place, where he was filmed by EVERYBODY. Seriously, TMZ, X17 also posted the videos.

Ang have to say one thing - paps seems to love him. He and Simon both play this game very well.

by Anonymousreply 728May 3, 2009 5:43 PM

"Private conversation /= broadcasting said conversation to the world."

Go fuck yourself, you stupid tard. Seriously. Do you really believe anyone agrees?

by Anonymousreply 729May 3, 2009 7:00 PM

I bet Simon and Ryan would [italic]hate[/italic] it if even a semi-openly gay man would win idol. They're so closeted.

by Anonymousreply 730May 3, 2009 7:56 PM

Seriously, Ryan looked a little too giddy over pulling Adam into the bottom 3 group.

by Anonymousreply 731May 3, 2009 7:57 PM

You conspiracy theorists are out of control.

by Anonymousreply 732May 3, 2009 8:02 PM

Ryan new Adam was safe. So there goes your theory.

by Anonymousreply 733May 3, 2009 8:07 PM

new= knew.

by Anonymousreply 734May 3, 2009 8:09 PM

What difference does that make? He still looked like he got a kick out of it.

by Anonymousreply 735May 3, 2009 8:09 PM

[italic]He still looked like he got a kick out of it.[/italic]

Not as much as I did.

by Anonymousreply 736May 3, 2009 9:35 PM

Why do you have to be downplaying Randy, 709? It's obvious that they're all equally good friends.

by Anonymousreply 737May 3, 2009 10:18 PM

"Obvious" how? Did Ryan indicate his life would suck without happily married Randy? Did Ryan kiss Randy on the forehead before he kissed Simon? did the Enquirer write that they were told Ryan and Simon and Randy were in a long term relationship? Hmmm?

by Anonymousreply 738May 3, 2009 11:55 PM

I meant from Simon's point of view, they're all equally good friends.

by Anonymousreply 739May 4, 2009 2:24 AM

Gee, wouldn't your lover have been seeing your house all the way along, or at least at some point before a "premiere"?

by Anonymousreply 740May 4, 2009 3:44 AM

R-739, let's say you are close to 2 colleagues, one of whom you are in a long term sexual relationship with. Would you say your friendship with each is equal?

by Anonymousreply 741May 4, 2009 4:07 AM

R-740, when there is a movie premiere, do you think that is the first time anyone has ever seen any part of that movie? Or is it the first time anyone saw the completed version of that movie?

by Anonymousreply 742May 4, 2009 4:36 AM

741, that's exactly why Simon treasures Paula so much.

by Anonymousreply 743May 4, 2009 2:02 PM

From the photos I've seen, I can't detect any extraordinary affection from Ryan towards Simon or vice versa -- in fact, most of them are rather aloof. Seriously, they all look like friends only.

by Anonymousreply 744May 4, 2009 2:13 PM

"I can't detect any extraordinary affection from Ryan towards Simon or vice versa"

Maybe you haven't seen that many pictures of them together. Interestingly, since the last year or so, most of the AI arranged photographs have Ryan and Simon rarely near each other anymore. We also rarely see them interviewed together after the show by Terri or other Fox affiliates. Is it a coincidence, or is there an agenda about keeping their chemistry at bay?

Be that as it may, they must have some kind of affection for each other if they are reputedly together all the time when they are both in the States, and vacation together whenever they can.

by Anonymousreply 745May 4, 2009 2:57 PM

It seems like Anderson Cooper going to be on Ryan's show today. Again. Can't wait, because they usually great together. I wonder what Ryan's daddy (Simon) think about it?

by Anonymousreply 746May 4, 2009 3:32 PM

Actually, difference in the relationship between Simon and Randy, who are friends, and Simon and Ryan, who are more that friends, is a main indicator that something is really going on behind the scenes between Seacrest and Cowell. Their interaction with Randy talks about calm, moderate friendship, not a sign of a fireworks and passion that exist between Ryan and Simon. They can cut each other with words, and we saw evidences, or make each other happy, what we also saw and heard in interviews. Just one evidence - last Jay Leno interview, where all three of them were present. Really, this little clip say it all.

by Anonymousreply 747May 4, 2009 3:48 PM

Wow, Ryan sound really tired and sort of down on the radio. He has a friday's voice. Guess Simon was out of country on week-end.

by Anonymousreply 748May 4, 2009 3:52 PM

If he's sad, maybe the bartender dumped him this weekend.

by Anonymousreply 749May 4, 2009 5:13 PM

You talk like Randy signed on for beard duty. I don't think he would do that at all. They're all just friends.

by Anonymousreply 750May 4, 2009 5:14 PM

I hope Anderson and Ryan talk about Ryan's girlfriend and the mommy blogger. It would be fun to heard Anderson's thoughts on the bartender and Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 751May 4, 2009 5:16 PM

Fun interview with AC, as always. Not as funny as previous one, but still good. They talked about Simon's habits (Ryan knows them all), swine flu and Obamas, trashy shows, Ryan dissed AC for looking old, AC dissed Ryan for using botox. These two are like Ryan/Simon Lite. And I bet Anderson is really interested.

by Anonymousreply 752May 4, 2009 6:43 PM

Ryan isn't his type.

by Anonymousreply 753May 4, 2009 7:00 PM

Ryan dissed a 40+ yr old guy for looking old? Um...

by Anonymousreply 754May 4, 2009 11:13 PM

Anderson already has a baby to take care of, he doesn't need to take on Ryan too.

by Anonymousreply 755May 4, 2009 11:17 PM

I'm sorry, but I want Ryan to expound on his heterosexual adventures and love of snatch while someone like Anderson is on. It's only fair - why wouldn't or shouldn't he?

by Anonymousreply 756May 4, 2009 11:21 PM

Why would he? It would only bore the "coop" out of Anderson.

by Anonymousreply 757May 4, 2009 11:45 PM

754

Jockingly, of course.

And I heard that this pumour about AC liking only latino guys is created by press and gossip bloggers, and in reality he has a very diverse tastes.

by Anonymousreply 758May 5, 2009 2:40 AM

"Pumour"? Is that like a smelly rumour? :) And you think Anderson likes diversity based on what? Do you move in the same circles as he, R-758?

by Anonymousreply 759May 5, 2009 2:49 AM

The rumors have had Anderson with white, black, Latino and Asian guys for years.

by Anonymousreply 760May 5, 2009 2:58 AM

I got a watery stool.

by Anonymousreply 761May 5, 2009 3:03 AM

So do you think Anderson and Ryan have ever hooked up?

by Anonymousreply 762May 5, 2009 3:52 AM

Probably. They seem to like each other a LOT.

by Anonymousreply 763May 5, 2009 4:15 AM

I absolutely think so, too.

by Anonymousreply 764May 5, 2009 4:26 AM

Hmm, I think AC is interested, but Ryan probably with Simon and tries not to fool around, at least while Idol is on. It was funny when AC started to asking him about Cowell.

by Anonymousreply 765May 5, 2009 4:40 AM

"It was funny when AC started to asking him about Cowell."

Yes, well I'm sure Kathy G. has been filling Anderson's head with all sorts of ideas.

by Anonymousreply 766May 5, 2009 4:43 AM

I don't think AC's interested anymore, whatever happened between those two is probably long over. Anderson's always got some other dude to screw.

by Anonymousreply 767May 5, 2009 4:44 AM

I don't think ______'s interested anymore, whatever happened between those two is probably long over. ____________'s always got some other dude to screw.

by Anonymousreply 768May 5, 2009 5:12 AM

Both Simon's and Ryan's mom's will be in the Idol audience this week sitting near each other, according to Ryan. I guess in honor of Mother's Day. Hope they get a quick interview during the show.

by Anonymousreply 769May 5, 2009 10:31 AM

What about our moms? Why doesn't Ryan talk about them?

by Anonymousreply 770May 5, 2009 10:43 AM

R-769

Wow, this sound kind of gay.

by Anonymousreply 771May 5, 2009 1:28 PM

I heard Ryan's interview with his mother, when he talked about Idol and Simon's mother being there, and I thought he was jocking, when he said they will be sitting together. But, once again, his obsession with Simon is scary. Even his co-host was like - Oh, c'mon...

by Anonymousreply 772May 5, 2009 1:31 PM

I don't think their mothers have ever been in the Idol audience at the same time, they must be giddy with excitement. Ryan and Simon are the ultimate momma's boys.

I heard Simon's brother Tony is over here too.

I will lay good money on Terri sitting between Simon and Ryan's mom's!

by Anonymousreply 773May 5, 2009 1:50 PM

773, you totally beat me to it! Terri is definitely going to be sitting with Simon's mom.

by Anonymousreply 774May 5, 2009 1:55 PM

We haven't seen Miss Panty Ho in the audience yet, i guess this would be a good time to distract everyone while the in laws sit together.

by Anonymousreply 775May 5, 2009 2:06 PM

And then they can all go out to dinner after, the whole gang!

by Anonymousreply 776May 5, 2009 2:10 PM

If Simon and Ryan were really together, why would Ellen be all "come on?"

by Anonymousreply 777May 5, 2009 2:15 PM

She was "come on - here he goes again, talking about Simon". And fuck off, stupid troll. Go learn differences between Larry King and Drew Barrymor.

by Anonymousreply 778May 5, 2009 2:22 PM

Simon with Ellen. Of course, he mentions Ryan - completely unexpectedly and out of nowhere. Okey, maybe it's not only Ryan who is completely obsessed.

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by Anonymousreply 779May 5, 2009 2:31 PM

Just seen Simon on Ellen today. He declared that he had been single for a year (and pulled one of his usual sarcastic faces to show he's talking crap), then asked why nobody was applauding him. Ellen said they were scared of him, so he said 'Look, i like girls!'. He's so freakin gay he's actually making fun of himself and his big het image now.

by Anonymousreply 780May 5, 2009 3:57 PM

What's funny is how little attention to detail Simon has paid about his supposed 'split' with Seymour.

The press release from Max Clifford was back in September last year, yet Simon said in interviews that they split in the summer. Now, he's saying he's been single for a year and it's only May - at which point last year he was still insisting he was with Terri!

He needs his little sausage dog to calm him down.

by Anonymousreply 781May 5, 2009 4:17 PM

'Look, i like girls!'

Yeah, but you like boys even better--specifically your little sausage dog.

by Anonymousreply 782May 5, 2009 4:25 PM

And he again mentioned Ryan in the interview, completely out of blue. Good interview.

by Anonymousreply 783May 5, 2009 5:00 PM

Ryan is like the Beecher to my Keller

by Anonymousreply 784May 5, 2009 5:08 PM

Disturbing analogy, 784, but can't say I completely disagree. These two all about power struggle.

by Anonymousreply 785May 5, 2009 5:21 PM

Simon is so full of BS in saying that the staircase was Ryan's idea and it has affected his popularity negatively. I actually think many people believe everything he says. It was good that Ellen took him to tasks for that.

Do we think that anyone was gullible enough to believe him when he said he has been single for a year and not dating anyone. If he were the typical straight millionaire stud he likes to project, there is NO WAY he isn't dating--at least someone.

It is obvious to me there is someone in his life--just not a female. By the way there is no way Ellen doesn't know what side of the crumpet Simon likes buttered--so in a sense you can say Ellen is also full of BS, as are all protective Hollywood insiders--both straight and gay.

by Anonymousreply 786May 5, 2009 5:22 PM

I think Simon may be sincere in not renewing his IDOL contract, for the simple reason it makes it easier for him and Ryan to be a couple. Loads of hiding if they're both contracted to IDOL, yet if Ryan stays with his baby - IDOL host is his public identity after all - he doesn't have to do all that bearding he has been doing all along. With Simon off the show, there's less probability of a lawsuit that the coupling of Ryan and Simon would have cost IDOL viewers (the bible-belt contingent).

by Anonymousreply 787May 5, 2009 9:02 PM

First of all, I doubt American Idol would continue without Simon.

If Simon refuses to sign after next year, there is a lot of recent speculation Simon will probably start another American reality show, this time he will be the "producer." He didn't just rebuild a huge mansion here in the States to visit once in a while on holiday.

If he and Ryan are indeed a long term item, there is a good chance Ryan (whose contract also expires at the same time) will quit Idol and host Simon's new show.

by Anonymousreply 788May 5, 2009 10:13 PM

Now that Paula has admitted to pill addiction, maybe Simon and Ryan will be forthcoming about their homosexuality or at the very least bisexuality, if they want to count the few times they tried girls before realizing the truth.

by Anonymousreply 789May 5, 2009 10:20 PM

Ellen wants Ryan to settle down with a nice girl, so no doubt she would like Simon to do the same.

by Anonymousreply 790May 5, 2009 11:14 PM

So if Terri sits between the two moms, do you think Ryan is going to haul her ass out of the seat to interview them?

by Anonymousreply 791May 6, 2009 12:13 AM

You know, all the bad shit that's gone down tonight with the show just goes to show you how unpredictable life is. You or a loved one can go at any moment. Carpe Diem and all that jazz.

I bet they'll stay closeted forever.

by Anonymousreply 792May 6, 2009 12:51 AM

Hm, I wonder what Simon think now about his clever staircase joke, that almost killed Ryan's career.

by Anonymousreply 793May 6, 2009 1:36 AM

I was LOLing over Ryan ordering Simon to put his lighter away. Twice.

by Anonymousreply 794May 6, 2009 3:29 AM

793, I'm sure he didn't care a jot, as he was jawing away unconcernedly with Randy while Ryan came down the KILLER stairs tonight.

by Anonymousreply 795May 6, 2009 3:31 AM

Simon said there would be four judges next year... I wonder if Kara has given him a sloppy blow job deluxe recently.

by Anonymousreply 796May 6, 2009 3:35 AM

Simon says a lot of things, but I guess she really will be back. Another rymon-less year, and then Simon might be gone. Just great.

by Anonymousreply 797May 6, 2009 6:19 AM

All three - Ryan, Simon and Adam - were disturbingly orange this evening. Adam and Simon both made eyes to Ryan again.

I loved the moment before Adam and Allison duet, when Ryan was presenting them, standing near judges, Simon came back from the break, sat in his chair and immediately started staring at Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 798May 6, 2009 7:41 AM

Fucking AMAZING old video from behind the scenes - season two or three. I just saw it on youtube, and was absolutely astonished. It looks like an anniversary video - like a video of a couple that was together for a long time and want to see a reminder of a good old days, when everything just started for two of them. Ryan, teasing and picking on a fight about smocking, which he hates, and Simon, who looks like he's been fucking all night long, with lazy smile. And "Give me a hug" in the end. Un-fucking-believable.

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by Anonymousreply 799May 6, 2009 9:28 AM

"793, I'm sure he didn't care a jot"

Yes, we all know you are "sure" of that.

But we don't give a fuck..

by Anonymousreply 800May 6, 2009 12:14 PM

"'Look, i like girls!"

Did it seem to anyone else that Ellen was teasing Simon when she was all "ME toooo!"?

by Anonymousreply 801May 6, 2009 12:15 PM

No, she was saying she's a lesbian, and agreeing that he's a heterosexual.

by Anonymousreply 802May 6, 2009 1:25 PM

Simon seems to be getting along so well with Kara now. I wonder what happened?

by Anonymousreply 803May 6, 2009 1:35 PM

Did I hear Paula correctly? Did she really indicate that Adam and Allison were in a marriage, and that she and Simon were as well? Bliss!

by Anonymousreply 804May 6, 2009 1:45 PM

According to R-799's link, Simon and Ryan seem to have a blast when they are out together.

Too bad we don't get glimpses into that ongoing love affair these days because so many people are on to their relationship. I bet the Leno show put the kibosh on future joint interview appearances with the two of them as well.

by Anonymousreply 805May 6, 2009 3:20 PM

I wonder if there will be time to show Ryan and Simon's mothers in the audience tonight. The show was in such disarray last night with the set mishap, they probably had to cut out some of the planned activities.

by Anonymousreply 806May 6, 2009 3:49 PM

R-805

I actually was surprised, but Simon really seems very loving and tender in this video, while Ryan... well... he really reminded me a little cocky dog. But also very playful. This video is incredible, I wish there were more.

by Anonymousreply 807May 6, 2009 5:26 PM

Heard Ryan's interview with Levin from TMZ, and of course, like every person with a brain already guessed, Simon's story on Ellen about Ryan requesting this staircase was complete bullshit.

I actually thought it was funny, and it was completely obviously for me that Simon was kidding, but, unfortunately, most people are fucking idiots. I saw posts and comments about this story - Oh, Simon told the truth, he was completely honest, and Ryan is so full of himself. And after last show some idiot even wrote - Seacrest's ego almost killed stage manager on Idol!

Could you fucking believe it?

by Anonymousreply 808May 6, 2009 5:43 PM

I just read in LA Times that Paula gets only two million of dollard per year for doing Idol, while Simon does 36 million. And Ryan, as I heard from another source, does 12 million a year for Idol (but he has a lot of income - God knows how much he makes from E!, radio and his restaurants).

by Anonymousreply 809May 6, 2009 6:34 PM

Regardless of the disparity in their respective salaries from Idol, the judges and Ryan would be fools to leave the number one show.

Their involvement in this ratings and cultural phenom has allowed all of them to have even more viable careers than they could have ever dreamed of before. It isn't like this show takes up 12 months a year of their lives.

Geesh, they have 8 months to make their marks elsewhere. I doubt anyone will leave on their own volition when their contracts expire.

by Anonymousreply 810May 6, 2009 7:28 PM

Simon never corrected the story, 808 like he did with Obama and Leno, so I doubt he cares a jot that Ryan's ego is viewed as a potential killer.

by Anonymousreply 811May 7, 2009 12:42 AM

Interesting is the fact that he had Harvey Levin on his show. It's obvious that Ryan has nothing to hide.

by Anonymousreply 812May 7, 2009 12:45 AM

Oh please, R-812, he is doing the same thing with Levin as he does with Perez Hilton. By having them on his radio show and giving them exposure, they in turn will scratch his back by not reporting his hand holding and affectionate gestures with a certain male acerbic judge when they go out on the town.

In fact, Levin & Perez have stopped calling him "gay"crest and now run nice puff pieces on him and show pics of him doing volunteer work, talking at length to his fans, petting a cute puppy, etc.

by Anonymousreply 813May 7, 2009 1:01 AM

Wow--in R799's link, did Simon call Ryan a whore? Look right after they hugged, at the 1:52 mark.

by Anonymousreply 814May 7, 2009 1:14 AM

Ryan is a whore - a man ho.

by Anonymousreply 815May 7, 2009 1:17 AM

" I doubt he cares a jot"

WTF is with you and "a jot"? Is that Saula fancow lingo?

It's been only one day, and nobody with two braincells to rub together really believes Ryan asked for an expensive retractable staircase.

by Anonymousreply 816May 7, 2009 1:21 AM

I think he cares a whole bushel of jots for a certain young at heart and carefree 4-ever-his-girl directly by his side!

by Anonymousreply 817May 7, 2009 1:59 AM

Simon did not retract his earlier statement! Sadly, he does not care if Ryan's rep is ruined.

by Anonymousreply 818May 7, 2009 2:11 AM

Her performance was every bit the trainwreck I thought it would be.

On the other hand, did you see the way Ryan leaned away from Simon and into Kara right before the cutaway to Paula? INTERESTING!

by Anonymousreply 819May 7, 2009 2:20 AM

Where are Simon and Ryan's mommies? Did they stay home because of the stagequake? Hmmm?

by Anonymousreply 820May 7, 2009 2:26 AM

R-813, for real - the fact that Ryan is so friendly with this gossip-moguls like TMZ and Perez, IS a proof that he has something to hide.

by Anonymousreply 821May 7, 2009 2:41 AM

Ryan and Simon's mothers were in the studio, Ryan talked about it on air.

by Anonymousreply 822May 7, 2009 2:43 AM

R-810

Simon will leave Idol only for another show. I believe this is possible. Paula - no fucking way. She has nothing else. Even her comeback as a "singer" possible only thank to Idol.

by Anonymousreply 823May 7, 2009 2:47 AM

Oh, no wonder Ryan was trying to butch it up.

by Anonymousreply 824May 7, 2009 3:21 AM

You just know Ellen that is going to ask about Ryan's girlfriend when he appears with his mommy on Friday. I can't wait!

by Anonymousreply 825May 7, 2009 3:24 AM

er, that Ellen^

by Anonymousreply 826May 7, 2009 3:25 AM

I thought the dynamic between Paula and Ryan seemed very strange and strained tonight. I can picture her screeching at Ryan backstage about Anderson Cooper's Jay Leno comment, seeing how he and Ryan are best buds and all.

by Anonymousreply 827May 7, 2009 4:06 AM

Why would Paula blame Ryan for Anderson's comment? And I doubt they are best buds, it seems. I think they spend time together only in interviews. Maybe one of them want to change it, but in one of the interviews Ryan said he doesn't know much about Anderson.

by Anonymousreply 828May 7, 2009 4:11 AM

Oh well, maybe it was because her performance was ass-tastic tonite.

In other news, news of an impending "Merv was a big old fag" biography will no doubt send Ryan scurrying back to the deepest recesses of the closet. Look for more appearances of pantyhose girl in a gossip blog near you.

by Anonymousreply 829May 7, 2009 4:17 AM

Merv's biography will be only about his earlier years, when Ryan even didn't existed. From 30-s to 60-s, even before marriage.

About Ryan and Paula - Abdul is a big friends with a couple of radio guys - Johnjay and Rich. She's really very good friends with them, recaps American Idol every week on their show. And they are OBSESSED with Seacrest. They diss him with every opportunity, one of them think Ryan stole his career - and this week they were broadcasting from LA from Ryan's studio, and complained non-stop about how everybody treats them very bad and how it's all Ryan's fault. Maybe Ryan is pissed off at Paula because of this two clowns?

by Anonymousreply 830May 7, 2009 4:57 AM

God, this season is so very boring. I seriously miss last season and real fire between creators of the show - of course, between Simon and Ryan, first of all, but also between all the judges and host. Something so wrong this season - everything seems so boring and wrong. Kara really did fucked the show up big time.

by Anonymousreply 831May 7, 2009 5:01 AM

Ryan has hated Paula ever since she went on Leno and made fun of Terri Hatcher.

by Anonymousreply 832May 7, 2009 5:02 AM

"Kara really did fucked the show up big time."

Simon doesn't mind that - he must not mind limited banter.

by Anonymousreply 833May 7, 2009 5:06 AM

They had some BIG problems in season 5, when first Ryan joked about Paula on Leno, than Paula joked about Ryan and Teri Hatcher on Leno (Jay is a crucial person for the show, isn't he?), and there was moment when Simon brought this up on the live show, asking Ryan if they talk to each other again. So yes, in fifth season there was some serious tension between Ryan and Paula. But now they get along just fine, I think. Not the best friends, of course, but definitely no animosity.

by Anonymousreply 834May 7, 2009 5:45 AM

Simon admitted on Ellen that he was uncomfortable with new judge, so it definitely wasn't his idea. And although he said he likes Kara now, I still think that old gang are lukewarm toward Kara (at best). Even Randy sort of dissed her on that unforgettable Leno show. And Simon on every show - Leno, Ferguson, Ellen - said he annoyed with girls for talking too much. Which is truth, because they both are horrible, especially Paula with her prewritten nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 835May 7, 2009 5:51 AM

"and there was moment when Simon brought this up on the live show, asking Ryan if they talk to each other again."

It's stories like this that really make me doubt that they're together. Can you imagine your boyfriend making fun of a situation like this in public? I don't think so.

by Anonymousreply 836May 7, 2009 6:28 AM

I fast forward through Paula.

by Anonymousreply 837May 7, 2009 6:29 AM

This was probably the least offensive thing Simon ever did to Ryan on the live show. Both of them don't give a crap about Paula and what she thinks about them.

by Anonymousreply 838May 7, 2009 6:31 AM

The live show as opposed to what? The dead one?

by Anonymousreply 839May 7, 2009 6:37 AM

Heh, Anderson on Leno was a strange thing. He was talking about all this global, dangerous problems, swine flu, world politics, and of course, he was competent and knowing, but he looked and sounded SOOOO bored. But when Leno mentioned Idol, he immediately lighten up, started giggling and joking. I think that's why he loves interviews with Ryan so much - Ryan can hold this balance between entertainment and serious news just like AC wants it (i.e. more entertainment, less news). Oh, and he also wants his ass.

by Anonymousreply 840May 7, 2009 6:38 AM

Both of them don't give a crap about Paula and what she thinks about them.

Au contraire... Seacrest's people went so far as to issue a press release about it.

by Anonymousreply 841May 7, 2009 6:40 AM

Also auditions, fucking trollish asshole. And interviews, talk shows, concerts.

by Anonymousreply 842May 7, 2009 6:41 AM

"Oh, and he also wants his ass."

They've probably already done something about it.

by Anonymousreply 843May 7, 2009 6:42 AM

Ryan mentioned that once in the interview, and that's it. Either way, who cares about Paula?

by Anonymousreply 844May 7, 2009 6:47 AM

Simon's jeans always look so odd on him. He's got this massive upper body and little legs, like an old muscle queen.

by Anonymousreply 845May 7, 2009 6:49 AM

Here's a shot of Ryan caring... He and Paula had really gotten into it on a previous segment. Look at Paula and Simon intimately canoodling in the very beginning, then Ryan about 5 seconds in as he catches sight of it. Classic.

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by Anonymousreply 846May 7, 2009 6:57 AM

You need to click the HQ button to catch the action in all of its gloriousness.

by Anonymousreply 847May 7, 2009 6:58 AM

That's your proof, troll at 846? I fucking laughing at you right now.

by Anonymousreply 848May 7, 2009 7:05 AM

You're really into subtlety, aren't you 848?

by Anonymousreply 849May 7, 2009 7:09 AM

I did love the way Paula and Simon were so close, though.

by Anonymousreply 850May 7, 2009 7:10 AM

I love that last behind the scenes video from season 2. It shows how close they were even back then. They must have bonded really quickly to become that comfortable with each other.

It also shows Simon to be lot softer and affectionate around Ryan than people expect him to be.

I hope the Leno debacle hasn't put them off appearing together in future chat shows, they have such a great vibe together. It's a shame the fuck up with the 4th judge has decreased the flirting time this season.

by Anonymousreply 851May 7, 2009 9:10 AM

Do you think Ryan is buddying up to Harvey Levin because he doesn't want his and his girlfriend's privacy invaded anymore? Kind of a calling off the dogs, so to speak?

by Anonymousreply 852May 7, 2009 9:26 AM

R852, no, it's because he doesn't want to be outed or at the very least be subject to snide comments on TMZ.

Exactly the same as Simon did when he struck a deal with Perez to promote Leona. Since then Perez' comments have been a lot kinder to both Simon and Ryan.

The key to survival in Hollywood, particularly for a closeted male, is to know your enemies and find a way of working with them. OK, maybe 'enemies' is a bit strong, but it's a dog eat dog world out there and both Ryan and Simon know how play the game. They keep influential media figures on their side and in turn, these people like the association of having access to Ryan/Simon for interviews etc.

by Anonymousreply 853May 7, 2009 9:48 AM

R-851

I think it was Season 3, because that was the time when Ryan's show was on the air, but overall, I agree with you. I was very impressed with this video.

by Anonymousreply 854May 7, 2009 12:47 PM

R-851

I think it was Season 3, because that was the time when Ryan's show was on the air, but overall, I agree with you. I was very impressed with this video.

by Anonymousreply 855May 7, 2009 12:49 PM

Something was definitely off with Paula this evening - she really was strained with Ryan in her interview, and when Ryan was reading judges's criticism, she looked like she's holding back tears. I think something happened between her and Simon, probably he said something negative about her lame, pompous, taped and lip syncing performance (Jesus, Paula, and you're talking about leaving Idol for "another projects"?)

Simon also looked pissed off most of the time - I think he was smiling only when Ryan was talking to him.

And yes, another tidbit from "On the scene" on Entertainment Weekly.

"Ryan went and sat in Paula's empty chair while she "performed," and I enjoyed watching the judges' response to this tape: Randy and Kara gamely bopped along, while Ryan and Simon engaged in some deep, disinterested conversation."

Link to the snapshots of upset Paula and angry Simon.

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by Anonymousreply 856May 7, 2009 1:34 PM

She was probably just watching their "deep, disinterested conversation" from the wings.

by Anonymousreply 857May 7, 2009 2:06 PM

That might upset me too if the two most important Idol cast members showed no interest in me as I performed for the first time live on stage as a member of American Idol.

Even though she was lip synching, she was brave to put her older, stiffer body in front of the live audience and TV cameras. Ryan and Simon should have showed her some respect.

by Anonymousreply 858May 7, 2009 3:00 PM

It wasn't her, it was a tape. Her performance was pretaped.

by Anonymousreply 859May 7, 2009 6:17 PM

Another reason to bitch about fourth judge - only two performance from contestants on the next week's show. Usually it's three performances - judges pick, producers pick, and contestants pick, but now only judges and contestants. I mean, music supposed to be a main point of this show, right?

Music is the main attraction for most people, but also interaction between judges and host, who have a great chemistry, and with contestants, who can show their personalities on the shows. It worked for eight years, and now with new judge - performances are limited (show still late almost every week), Ryan almost don't talk with contestants and judges (and I know, I can be biased, but Ryan actually was good at questioning judges and some of their comments, not only at flirting), shows are boring and bland, and half of the time is dedicated to Kara and Paula trying to overjudge each other. I like Kara, but I wish she'll go away. She doesn't bring anything new, she's not entertaining and she REALLY fucked up this show.

by Anonymousreply 860May 7, 2009 6:34 PM

So, Ryan did interview with his mom, where he talked about Ellen, pregnant women, Simon's mom, Simon, Simon, Simon, Simon, "Oh, I don't look at him (Simon) as a role model", and Simon again. His mom and Simon's mom totally bonded over the years and doing interview together for Extra. And Ryan and Simon are definitely fucking. Oh, and his mother totally knows.

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by Anonymousreply 861May 7, 2009 7:06 PM

His mom sounds smart and funny.

I don't get why people keep saying he is unhappy or with problems. He looks and sounds pretty happy to me.

by Anonymousreply 862May 7, 2009 7:17 PM

R-862

Well, I think he has some problems - he's a workaholic, has an eating disorder, very insecure, so he's not without problems. And I think Simon is not an easy partner (and Ryan himself not an easy partner as well).

by Anonymousreply 863May 7, 2009 7:53 PM

So, what everybody think about video at 799? I watched it, very good stuff, and I admit, it really changed my perception of their relationship. I always thought Ryan is more affectionate in this relationship, while Simon is mostly cold and sometimes even cruel. But in this video Simon actually looks more affectionate, tender, touchy feely. And Ryan is very cocky, always triyng to pick a fight, trying to provoke Simon to some reaction. It's weird, but I actually felt some father-naughty son vibe from all of this, like Ryan is trying to push Simon and see how deep under his skin he can get.

Now I think Ryan provoked most of the fights between them, and he probably still don't know how to handle Simon. But he craves his attention and approval.

by Anonymousreply 864May 7, 2009 8:06 PM

Ryan seems to have grown up quite a bit since that video at R-799. These days, he acts more like the proud wife to his sometimes naughty husband.

Love how the mothers are getting interviewed together. No matter how much this year Ryan and Simon are kept from their infamous bickering/flirting on Idol due to the extra judge, their adoration of each other manages to seep out one way or another.

That being said, you just know during the interview, the mother's will definitely leave the impression that Ryan and Simon are straight. After all, they are now media savvy.

by Anonymousreply 865May 7, 2009 8:32 PM

What Ryan meant to say in that radio interview with Mom was, "...no Mom, he's not my mentor, he's my lover."

Wonder how closeted Ryan and Simon will feel if Adam becomes the American Idol and comes out soon afterward.

by Anonymousreply 866May 7, 2009 9:00 PM

Ellen and the moms will talk about how much they want Simon and Ryan to settle down with nice women and start families of their own.

by Anonymousreply 867May 7, 2009 11:07 PM

Pregnant women? Did he knock up pantyhose already?

by Anonymousreply 868May 7, 2009 11:23 PM

Oh my god, the in-laws are meeting on Ellen. Ry and Sy are sooooo together.

by Anonymousreply 869May 7, 2009 11:48 PM

R-867, lol. Like Julie Cowell's wish came true with Terri Seymour.

Also, isn't it disingenuous of Mrs. Cowell to ignore her almost 50 year old son's blatant remarks to anyone who will listen that he never wants to be married and never wants children. Will she still be wishing for him to settle down when he is retired?

by Anonymousreply 870May 7, 2009 11:54 PM

Ellen is pissing me off.

It's one thing to not OUT anybody who isn't ready and willing to be OUTed, but it is quite another thing to be aiding and abetting. Frankly, I have no respect for Ellen anymore.

by Anonymousreply 871May 8, 2009 1:18 AM

A couple of Rymon moments from last night.

1) That would have been Simon (I think) toasting Ryan as usual on the introduction but the camera shot changed. Simon either winks at Ryan or toasts him on the intro, but seems to be taking a back seat to Ryan this season, as if leaving Ryan the chance to shine.

2) And leave it to Ryan, when the audience is laughing at Simon's advice to Kris not to be humble, that Ryan clarifies that Simon is serious (because he knows when Simon is to be taken literally).

But I do get the impression Simon is mentally done with this show. I think he is more than ready to leave as soon as his contract is up and he has already mentally disengaged a year in advance.

Oddly, I think one thing that kept him going for all these years (and living in a foreign country for months on end, as well) is Ryan, with their deliberate joking spats on air, their flirting, and even their genuine arguments.

Now Simon's just a guy who wants to settle into a quiet yet glamorous life with his chosen one. That's why the edge is gone from the show.

by Anonymousreply 872May 8, 2009 1:25 AM

Don't forget meeee, 871!

by Anonymousreply 873May 8, 2009 3:02 AM

His episode on Ellen already aired? How was it?

by Anonymousreply 874May 8, 2009 3:40 AM

I didn't bother to watch Ryan on Ellen today because it is always the same. Ellen and Ryan talk about what good friends they are and how much Ellen wants to find him a nice girl. She will also mention how mean Simon is to Ryan and what a saint Ryan is for putting up with him. Ryan will then play the (how hard it is for such a hard working guy to find time for a girlfriend) card.

Now a boyfriend is another thing. :)

by Anonymousreply 875May 8, 2009 4:42 AM

"I didn't bother to watch Ryan on Ellen today because it is always the same."

The mothers taped some segment for Extra; they weren't on Ellen. I wonder if Teri Seymour is somewhere in the mix.

"Ellen and Ryan talk about what good friends they are and how much Ellen wants to find him a nice girl."

Perhaps this time Ellen will mention pantyho(se).

This little visit with ma, I'm sure, is just promotion for Seacrest's NBC reality show highlighting one of his (many) deep seated psychological issues -- Momma's Boy or some such crapola.

by Anonymousreply 876May 8, 2009 5:03 AM

Pretty sure the "ma" visit is due to Mother's Day coming up this weekend. Same reason for Julie and Connie's interview on Extra. Since Terri works for Extra and apparently still works for Simon, I can't imagine anyone else getting the interview.

I really don't see Ryan with deep psychological issues. His closeted status is an issue that he no doubt struggles with, but don't we all have a few problems to contend with in life.

by Anonymousreply 877May 8, 2009 5:19 AM

How do they even preface such an event? And now here are Ryan and Simon's mothers, yay!

The Saulers will wonder why her mother isn't on - they're going to be co-mothers-in-law one day, after all.

by Anonymousreply 878May 8, 2009 5:35 AM

If she's doing the interview, it'll be the perfect opportunity for Simon's mother to ask Teri to give her boy one more chance.

by Anonymousreply 879May 8, 2009 5:37 AM

"His closeted status is an issue that he no doubt struggles with"

Why do you think that? He's given no indication that he would want it any other way.

by Anonymousreply 880May 8, 2009 5:38 AM

Of course Terri will give her big smile and play along as if there might be a chance of getting back together.

No way Ryan and Simon need fear anyone thinks they are an item. They have Ellen D, Rosie (ungay) O'Donnell on their sides, as well as their top publicists to defuse any gay behavior, photos, or slips of tongue--oooh that sounds so bad.

by Anonymousreply 881May 8, 2009 5:46 AM

I always got the impression that Connie did not like Simon when she spoke with Ryan about him before.

Now she seems warmer towards him and if she gets on well with Julie then that will help.

I think Ryan only came out to his parents after he got serious with Simon and that must have made them hate Simon for a while, because the image they had of their son was not correct. I doubt Ryan had a serious r/ship with a guy before Simon, just casual fucking, so he probably delayed telling his parents.

Julie OTOH was a West End dancer in London and obviously much more 'in the know' about these things. She probably sussed her boy was a flaming queen before he even told her.

R872 made a good point. Maybe Simon has only stayed on Idol this long because of Ryan. I'm certain they will leave together and start a new show, whether that be end of next season or in the future.

by Anonymousreply 882May 8, 2009 11:27 AM

I'm hoping to see the Seacrests join the Cowells in Barbados this year now their mommies are so pally.

It's good to see two old dears embrace their homo sons with such joy, whilst secretly wishing they could prevent this weird, mutually obssesive relationship and have them settle down with Miss Middle America/England.

by Anonymousreply 883May 8, 2009 12:45 PM

"Maybe Simon has only stayed on Idol this long because of Ryan."

Puh-leeze! These flights of fancy are embarrassing as hell.

by Anonymousreply 884May 8, 2009 1:55 PM

I agree, R-884. I do think Ryan and Simon are in a relationship, but I don't think Simon has stayed this long because of Ryan. First reason is the contract--Simon is a smart businessman and knows the importance of honoring a contract.

Simon loves being in a top-rated show and this one has stayed on the top for 9 years!

He won't leave a top rated show. He is posturing right now so that he can gain more control of Idol when his contract is up next year. They will do everything it takes to keep him.

Remember, this thread will be closing soon, so make what you write be meaningful.

by Anonymousreply 885May 8, 2009 2:58 PM

I'm glad Ryan gets paid more for IDOL than either Paula or Randy, who can both be dropped off the nearest bridge as far as I am concerned. IMO as the only adult on-camera performer for that show, he is still underpaid, especially since he has to babysit the director as well. Not to mention putting his life in jeopardy each time he hits that stage.

Maybe Simon insults Ryan's grand stair entrance because he's worried Ryan will fall and break his neck. I've been worried about that, especially as Ryan doesn't even look at the stairs as he walks down them, only susses the audience.

by Anonymousreply 886May 8, 2009 6:44 PM

Ellen should do with Ryan and Simon what everyone who interviews Anderson does - don't bring up his personal life at all. This way the guys aren't coming out but don't have to engage in ridiculous repartee as well. I don't think Ellen is doing herself any favors talking about hooking up Ryan or Simon with girls. The truth will out eventually and she will look bad as a result.

Speaking of Anderson, did anyone who caught his appearance on Leno notice if he mentioned Ryan specifically when they discussed IDOL?

by Anonymousreply 887May 8, 2009 6:45 PM

"especially since he has to babysit the director as well"

...and Simon, on occasion. "Simon, put down the lighter"--anyone?

Ryan should definitely hold out for a huge pay increase at contract negotiation time. He not only carries the show on his narrow shoulders, but nurtures the contestants and seems to know what to say to them at key times.

Ryan would make a terrific parent. Wonder if parenting ala Clay Aiken is in his future?

Any word on Debbie the stage manager and her injuries?

by Anonymousreply 888May 8, 2009 6:56 PM

[italic] Speaking of Anderson, did anyone who caught his appearance on Leno notice if he mentioned Ryan specifically when they discussed IDOL? [/italic]

No, Anderson just mentioned Simon and Paula. He said he hung out with Simon to do a 60 Minutes piece on him and really liked him.

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by Anonymousreply 889May 8, 2009 8:30 PM

R888 Debbie was back at work the next night so she was there for the results show.

by Anonymousreply 890May 8, 2009 10:29 PM

Thanks, R-890. Debbie is a trooper. Let's hope she gets a big salary increase along with Ryan, Paula, and Randy.

Any word on the guys taking their visiting Moms out for a Mother's Day brunch? Will Ryan's new best friend Harvey Levin get the scoop?

by Anonymousreply 891May 8, 2009 11:27 PM

When is the Extra interview with their mommies supposed to air?

by Anonymousreply 892May 9, 2009 12:30 AM

Interesting BI guess from Michael K from Dlisted. He thinks Seacrest is "too obvious" to be the non (un)gay guy who is thinking about come out as bisexual to make money. So if a gossip blog stahhhr like Mike thinks Seacrest isn't gay, he isn't.

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by Anonymousreply 893May 9, 2009 1:06 AM

He didn't say Ryan wasn't gay.

But I agree it isn't him. "Look for speculation about his sexuality in the FUTURE." Yeah...because that would be new for someone dubbed "GAYcrest"

But I don't think any actually STRAIGHT guy would prentend to be bi. Even for publicity. That's more something an actually GAY person would do to cover.

by Anonymousreply 894May 9, 2009 2:03 AM

On second thought, it's probably supposed to mean that a gay guy would come out as bisexual, ergo "not really gay."

by Anonymousreply 895May 9, 2009 2:22 AM

It also sounds like someone was pulling someone's leg. "Yeah, I'm gonna come out even though I'm not gay in order to get some "pricey" interviews and publicity! My agent doesn't agree with that obviously crap idea, but fuck him and all he's done for my career!"

Someone's a moron, and it may not be the A-List reality show star.

by Anonymousreply 896May 9, 2009 2:24 AM

The blind item isn't about an "A-list" reality show star. That's who MY blind item was about.

by Anonymousreply 897May 9, 2009 2:28 AM

"On second thought, it's probably supposed to mean that a gay guy would come out as bisexual, ergo "not really gay."

No. If you read it, it says te speculation would be manufactured. Meaning he isn't gay at all and just doing it for publicity.

by Anonymousreply 898May 9, 2009 2:28 AM

So that means Michel K. thinks Seacrest is straight, and is just giving him a hard time with the "Gaycrest" thing.

by Anonymousreply 899May 9, 2009 2:29 AM

Or else it means Mike is too stone to read blind items carefully.

by Anonymousreply 900May 9, 2009 2:30 AM

^stoneD

by Anonymousreply 901May 9, 2009 2:30 AM
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