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The police film of the 1962 Mansfield, Ohio undercover men''s bathroom sting

A documentary film hit the gay festival circuit last year showing the Mansfield, Ohio Police Department in the summer of 1962 photographing men having sex in a public restroom under the main square of the city. A cameraman hid in a closet and watched the clandestine activities through a two-way mirror.

Well, someone just posted the sting footage on line.Pretty amazing stuff. Be warned it is pretty raunchy. (NSFW)

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by Anonymousreply 6604/04/2009

The police filmed over a three week period, and the resulting movie was used to obtain the convictions of over 30 local men on charges of sodomy. With some of this footage the Mansfield Police later produced Camera Surveillance, an instructional film circulated in law enforcement circles. It showed how to set up a sting operation to film and arrest �sex deviants.� William E. Jones found a degraded version of the film on the internet, then reedited the footage to make Mansfield 1962, a haunting, silent condensation of the original.

At link is the newspaper cover story from the local paper at the time announcing the bust. Those arrested are referred to as "sexual deviates."

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by Anonymousreply 104/01/2009

sad.

by Anonymousreply 204/01/2009

Mmm. Hot vintage cock! Dig the flattop geek in glasses; right out of "Leave It to Beaver."

by Anonymousreply 304/01/2009

I like how the newpaper says, "17 Arrests Climax Probe."

by Anonymousreply 404/01/2009

That's your dad.

by Anonymousreply 504/01/2009

Notice how several men are in multiple shots. Probably police provocateurs who were not arrested. The police historically used these stings as a hazing of new recruits, to humiliate them and give their officers something on them.

by Anonymousreply 604/01/2009

Amazing how strong the sexual urge is. Those men risked getting caught (and WERE) in that skanky restroom so long ago. Another time altogether. And imagine how much self hate must have been going on.

Notice the ones who dropped trou and actually bent over. No lube, I assume. What about hygiene, too? You KNOW those guys weren't "fresh." Just very sad and yet fascinating.

by Anonymousreply 704/01/2009

I almost never feel this, but it seems really wrong to watch that footage.

by Anonymousreply 804/01/2009

Funny, they don't look "gay" at all.

by Anonymousreply 904/01/2009

couldn't some of those people still be alive

by Anonymousreply 1004/01/2009

Boy, that takes me back.

by Anonymousreply 1104/01/2009

Boring!

no cum shots!

by Anonymousreply 1204/01/2009

Proof that cruising is innate?

by Anonymousreply 1304/01/2009

Looks like last Saturday at Balley's Health Club.

by Anonymousreply 1404/01/2009

Cool.

by Anonymousreply 1504/01/2009

I went through a tea room sex thing in the late 70's. I never remembered anyone getting fucked.

The young dark-haired guy in that film is HOT.

by Anonymousreply 1604/01/2009

Now we have the answer to the question, "What if Turner Classic Movies showed porn?"

by Anonymousreply 1704/01/2009

why were some of them peering around the corner for a few minutes?

i didn't get that.

by Anonymousreply 1804/01/2009

They were probably watching the entrance, r18, in case someone walked in.

by Anonymousreply 1904/01/2009

One guy looked like he was gagging and washing out his mouth. We still carry that fear and shame and self loathing even though we like to think we don't. It wasn't so long ago.

by Anonymousreply 2004/01/2009

Were some of those guys taking it in the ass? why didn't they go into the stall and shut the door?

by Anonymousreply 2104/01/2009

"To Catch A Sex Deviant" used to be one of my favourite shows. Too bad it got cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 2204/01/2009

Wow, repression was HOTT.

by Anonymousreply 2304/01/2009

"And imagine how much self hate must have been going on."

Project much? There was probably plenty of internalized homophobia but you can also bet there were plenty of guys who thought the scene was hot and enjoyed the sex.

by Anonymousreply 2404/01/2009

Wow. We saw this about six months ago...

OP must be the director, producer or one of the guys caught.

by Anonymousreply 2504/01/2009

OMG, I saw my Grampa Bruce!!

by Anonymousreply 2604/01/2009

At least the bathroom wasn't segregated.

by Anonymousreply 2704/01/2009

Video isn't working for me. All I see is a black screen.

by Anonymousreply 2804/01/2009

I could easily, and in 2009, make the same film of straight swingers doing the same thing in Pennsylvania.

by Anonymousreply 2904/01/2009

This was headline news at the time it happened? That's hard to believe, that people would care.

by Anonymousreply 3004/01/2009

Heterosexual men have historically HATED the idea of homosexual men enjoying sex, r30. Even tho the film demonstrates that the men put effort in not being seen by non-cruisers.

by Anonymousreply 3104/01/2009

Having grown up in Ohio, I have to say this is a fairly normal weekend on I-75.

by Anonymousreply 3204/01/2009

I long for the days when sex was dirty...

*sigh*

by Anonymousreply 3304/01/2009

At link is the mug shot of the hottie of the group. He kinda has a Sal Mineo vibe going on.

I swear one of the guys was a dead ringer for the Professor from Gilligan's Island. He was even wearing a pair of khakis and a wrinkled oxford shirt with the sleeves partially rolled up just like the Prof.

Another guy reminded me of a popular character actor from sixties television.

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by Anonymousreply 3404/01/2009

Congrats to R24 for winning the fucktard of the day award. Sweets you can still enjoy the sex and have self loathing issues.

by Anonymousreply 3504/01/2009

I love how twisted R34 is.

by Anonymousreply 3604/01/2009

That one guy looked like Van Johnson.

Or Peter Lawford...

by Anonymousreply 3704/01/2009

According to William Jones, the film maker that made the documentary

The original footage had "voice-over narration, as illiterate and hateful a text as I have ever heard committed to film, attested to the police's unenlightened attitudes."

by Anonymousreply 3804/01/2009

Very hot black guy at about 4:15-4:30.

Then Walter Brennan shows up at 5 to spoil the party.

by Anonymousreply 3904/01/2009

Whores

by Anonymousreply 4004/01/2009

R7's post reads as more backward and naive than anything in the video. I hope the poster is a woman and not a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 4104/01/2009

R35 is so smart. If she ever gets a boyfriend he's going to be a lucky person.

by Anonymousreply 4204/01/2009

Off topic, but found linked to this vide... this one is HOT:

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by Anonymousreply 4304/01/2009

More pics of your hotness.

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by Anonymousreply 4404/01/2009

And what credentials do YOU have, r41, for being so worldly wise and understanding of what men were like who cruised bathrooms in 1962, for chrissake? Hot sex with an element of risk is one thing. Anonymous bathroom sex as a CHOICE is one thing. Risking an arrest or the ruination of a career and a life for the sake of a blowjob in another era of ZERO gay rights or legal protections is something else entirely. Yes, those men had few outlets for sex in those days. But, still, there were side alley gay bars where at LEAST they knew they were among their own kind and might slip out a back door in case of a raid.

by Anonymousreply 4504/01/2009

When you think of all the commercial hidden camera videos sold now, viewable online, real and faked, in toilets, locker rooms and all kinds of places, straight and gay, this film is like the Holy Grail of T-room action.

by Anonymousreply 4604/01/2009

Imagine.

This sting was prompted by the molestation and murder of two little girls (because gay sex is somehow linked to female child molesting).

By law, these men had to undergo psychiatric assessment after being charged and they faced 20 years in prison.

by Anonymousreply 4704/02/2009

That looks like the lockerroom of every Equinox, NYSC, and Crunch I've ever been to.

by Anonymousreply 4804/02/2009

R42 is so well adjusted and happy if he's lucky he will be able to lick the spooge off the bathroom floor at his local tearoom.

by Anonymousreply 4904/02/2009

"But, still, there were side alley gay bars where at LEAST they knew they were among their own kind and might slip out a back door in case of a raid."

In Mansfield Ohio? I don't think so.

by Anonymousreply 5004/02/2009

Mansfield, OH is still a hillbilly hellhole of blue collar, unenlightened low income ingrates.

by Anonymousreply 5104/03/2009

Truly, 51.

by Anonymousreply 5204/03/2009

Do they have tea in these rooms?

by Anonymousreply 5304/04/2009

"We still carry that fear and shame and self loathing even though we like to think we don't. It wasn't so long ago."

[italic]Mary![/italic]

by Anonymousreply 5404/04/2009

Facinating

by Anonymousreply 5504/04/2009

Ahh, a perennial favorite of mine. Is it out on DVD now?

by Anonymousreply 5604/04/2009

[quote]Mansfield, OH is still a hillbilly hellhole of blue collar, unenlightened low income ingrates.

My mother lives in a nearby Ohio town. Not only is your description correct, but that part of Ohio is very conservative and Republican.

by Anonymousreply 5704/04/2009

""But, still, there were side alley gay bars where at LEAST they knew they were among their own kind and might slip out a back door in case of a raid."

In Mansfield Ohio? I don't think so. "

Uh, actually, I grew up not far from there and there was always a gay-friendly bar or two in Mansfield. One even advertised in the gay pubs as recently as a half dozen years ago.

Springfield, OH, which some think of as a sister city of sorts tho it's 2+ hours away and near Dayton, once had three gay bars. I should know: I was once attacked outside of one them (The Gaslight).

You left and right coast guys are sooooo naive about the Midwest (think Iowa).

by Anonymousreply 5804/04/2009

I used to think the Professor from Gilligan's Island was hot.

by Anonymousreply 5904/04/2009

R6 is full of shit.

Has anyone seen the documentary? One of the cameramen Bill Spognardi is still living. He is also mentioned in a book called Rotten To The Core 2 a book about corrupt lawmen in Richland County Ohio.

I wonder if the filmmaker attempted to track down any of the men arrested or found out what happened to them after this.

by Anonymousreply 6004/04/2009

"Uh, actually, I grew up not far from there and there was always a gay-friendly bar or two in Mansfield. One even advertised in the gay pubs as recently as a half dozen years ago."

In 1962? I don't think so cupcake but thanks for playing.

by Anonymousreply 6104/04/2009

In 1962? I don't think so cupcake but thanks for playing. "

Uh, yes smartass, actually there was one gayfriendly tho on-the-down-low gay bar there in the 1960s.

Guess how old I am, chap.

by Anonymousreply 6204/04/2009

BTW, there was also one in Marion, OH, 40 miles away, where I grew up.

Ripley's "Believe It Or Not!"

Only those who visited them ever talked about them at that point....natch

by Anonymousreply 6304/04/2009

What is shocking is those that didn't get long sentences in jail were institutionalized as "psychopaths."

by Anonymousreply 6404/04/2009

There were Black men too? I thought bathrooms were segregated? back then

by Anonymousreply 6504/04/2009

I wonder what the Black man's sentence s...

by Anonymousreply 6604/04/2009
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