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Dark Shadows

Was Barnabas gay?

by Anonymousreply 95July 28, 2008 3:09 AM

I think Jonathan Frid is.

by Anonymousreply 1May 29, 2008 3:37 AM

Frid is definitely a cocksucker. So is that old queen Louis Edmonds (Roger).

by Anonymousreply 2May 29, 2008 3:56 AM

"Was Barnabas gay?"

Absolutely not! What are you, twelve?

by Anonymousreply 3May 29, 2008 4:12 AM

He was in love with Angeligue

by Anonymousreply 4May 29, 2008 4:13 AM

Nope he was in love with Josette, Victoria and Angelique. Unfortunately Julia couldn't get him to fall for her.

by Anonymousreply 5May 29, 2008 4:13 AM

Didn't someone here claim to have slept with Joel Crothers?

by Anonymousreply 6May 29, 2008 4:16 AM

There was a gloryhole in the Collins mausoleum and once I caught a glimpse of Barnabas' signet ring on a wizened finger that slowly, beckoningly circled the outline of the opening, and all the while the old geezer made smacking noises with his lips.

by Anonymousreply 7May 29, 2008 1:10 PM

Excuse me, 200 years old and never married. What do you think?

by Anonymousreply 8May 29, 2008 1:33 PM

He kissed Willi Lomas on the neck

and yes Frid is gay and a Canadian which makes him doubly Gay.

by Anonymousreply 9May 29, 2008 1:36 PM

I wish they'd released "House of Dark Shadows" & "Night of Dark Shadows" by Dan Curtis on dvd. And weht the Johnny Depp remake?

by Anonymousreply 10May 29, 2008 1:44 PM

Can Vampires fuck? What about shoot loads? If they're dead, they can't have sperm right?

by Anonymousreply 11May 29, 2008 2:34 PM

Not all who suck are homosexual.

by Anonymousreply 12May 29, 2008 2:36 PM

No, but Quentin was freaky deaky, he was always trying to get into poor Davids pants.

by Anonymousreply 13May 29, 2008 2:45 PM

Oh, those sideburns!! Yum!

by Anonymousreply 14May 29, 2008 5:27 PM

Weren't most of the guys on that show gay?

by Anonymousreply 15May 29, 2008 8:18 PM

yes, r15. And most of its fans as well.

by Anonymousreply 16May 29, 2008 8:26 PM

Soap thread!

by Anonymousreply 17May 29, 2008 8:27 PM

He was as gay as Keanu Reeves on a dark and stormy night.

by Anonymousreply 18May 29, 2008 8:44 PM

There were SO MANY episodes in which only gay actors appeared.

by Anonymousreply 19May 29, 2008 8:51 PM

I wouldn't advise getting anywhere near a glory hole with those canines on the other end.

by Anonymousreply 20May 29, 2008 8:55 PM

I dare anyone to name more than 3 straight male actors on that show?

by Anonymousreply 21May 29, 2008 9:22 PM

There was this one scene btwn Frid and the second actor to play Burke Devlin who was also gay. It was a very intimate scene in the local pub. There was a lot of erotic subtext to their conversation, at least the way the actors played it. They were supposed to be enemies, and the scene came off as though the characters were negotiating some sexual relationship. Part of the fun of DS, besides the obvious campiness, was watching the mostly gay theatre actors on the show pretending to be in love with a woman. It was hysterical.

by Anonymousreply 22May 29, 2008 9:27 PM

Just when you think Luis Edmonds can't be beaten for sheer campiness, along comes Humbert Allen Alstredo (Nicholas Blair) and Michael Stroka (Aristede/Bruno).

And you can't beat Thayer David as Count Petofi for sheer gay silliness.

by Anonymousreply 23May 29, 2008 9:28 PM

Gayest show on television! I think the guys who played Willie and Sam were the only two who were straight.

by Anonymousreply 24May 29, 2008 9:28 PM

...and you really shouldn't say Barnabas ever loved Angelique... Deadly enemies for most of the run, at least on his part. She's a woman scorned.

by Anonymousreply 25May 29, 2008 9:32 PM

Surprise...Michael Stroka was straight in real life. I know it means nothing on DL, but he was married to a woman. Roger Davis and David Ford were also straight. Everyone else was gay, gay, gay. Joan Bennett was Louis Edmonds' fag hag IRL.

by Anonymousreply 26May 29, 2008 9:37 PM

Barnabus admitting to loving Angelique at the end of the parallel time storyline.

Don't forget Chris Berneau in the Leviathan storyline. He was married to this breathy, sexy, buxomy woman and was the biggest queen in Collinsport. You know he wasn't fucking her.

by Anonymousreply 27May 29, 2008 9:41 PM

Chris Bernau played Philip Todd. He seemed more interested in Chris Pennock, the handsome actor who played his surrogate demon-seed son, than the beautiful Marie Wallace, who played his wife.

by Anonymousreply 28May 29, 2008 9:51 PM

David Collins was the biggest queen in Collinsport. He had jazz hands, for heavens sake. I'm shocked that the actor who played him, David Henesy, grew up to be straight.

by Anonymousreply 29May 29, 2008 9:52 PM


by Anonymousreply 30May 30, 2008 9:23 PM

My name is Victoria Winters.

by Anonymousreply 31May 30, 2008 9:33 PM

Never missed an episode of this show when I was 12

by Anonymousreply 32May 31, 2008 3:19 AM

Fuck you, Victoria Winters! Too bad the kindly Rev. Trask's plan to kill you went up in flames.

by Anonymousreply 33May 31, 2008 3:24 AM

A man who wears a cape, carries a fabulous cane and cannot LIVE without giving a good suck? Yeah i'd say that's gay :-)

by Anonymousreply 34May 31, 2008 2:52 PM

[quote]Thayer David

Also straight. Was married then divorced, and just before his death was planning to remarry the woman he divorced

I think the handsome young man who played the 1st werewolf was gay. Or at least he seemed gay.

by Anonymousreply 35May 31, 2008 3:48 PM

My cousin's Mormon mom wouldn't let her watch it, so we had to sneak it! I had the comics, the album, the wig, loved Lara Parker.

by Anonymousreply 36May 31, 2008 3:55 PM

One of the most dramatic days of adolescent life was when my mother refused to let me stay home from afternoon Hebrew School to see the final episode of DARK SHADOWS. I hated her so much for that and I can still remember sitting in Hebrew School, staring at the clock, drowning in my torturous self-pity regarding this cruelty to this day, 35 years later!

by Anonymousreply 37May 31, 2008 3:56 PM

The sound you hear is me puttin' on my mandals as I head down to St. Marks to buy the original logo tee on black & white 100% cotton(S, M, L, XL).

by Anonymousreply 38May 31, 2008 3:56 PM

Let it go, r37, at least she let you watch it. It was on after my grandmother's fave, "Another World" on NBC. It started that summer of '68? on ABC and it was B&W and it was on around 11 a.m. as I recall?

by Anonymousreply 39May 31, 2008 4:05 PM

The guy who played to first werewolf went crazy, but he was so fucking hot. I wanted him to attack me. What about that hot guy in the 1841 parallel time storyline.

by Anonymousreply 40May 31, 2008 4:09 PM

Don Briscoe, the guy who played the werewolf Chris Jennings, apparantly took some LSD or other psychodel and had a breakdown after that. He went home to live with his parents, and just died last year. He was so hot. I had a major crush on Christopher Pennock.

by Anonymousreply 41May 31, 2008 4:18 PM

Chris Pennock had a huge cock.

by Anonymousreply 42May 31, 2008 4:22 PM

Wasn't David Selby on Dark Shadows? What is the story on him?

by Anonymousreply 43May 31, 2008 4:27 PM

Selby is straight. His son wrote some radio play based on DS and had a bunch of the cast re-enact their roles at a recent fan gathering. He was beyond beautiful during his DS days.

by Anonymousreply 44May 31, 2008 4:33 PM

Lesbian icon Ada on "Another World" actress Constance Ford ("A Summer Place", "Parrish") used to hang with Jonathan Frid & Joel Carothers at Upper West at gay bars.

by Anonymousreply 45May 31, 2008 4:41 PM

do they really carry those shirt on St. Marks? Which store? Blue & Cream?

by Anonymousreply 46May 31, 2008 4:42 PM

The films were shot at a mansion that's still standing in Dobbs Ferry, NY. I think some of the original series had location shooting?

by Anonymousreply 47May 31, 2008 4:43 PM

Lara Parker lives in Northern California and looks great, loved her with Loretta Swit in "Shout At The Devil".

by Anonymousreply 48May 31, 2008 4:44 PM

Dan Curtis was genius, he did a werewolf one with Angie Dickinson in tight sweaters called "The Norliss Tapes" shot at Laguna Beach. That one is camp. I even liked the early 90s NBC primetime series with Ben Cross.

by Anonymousreply 49May 31, 2008 4:46 PM

"Race with the Devil"

the one with Karen Black playing all 3 parts. Actually 4.

by Anonymousreply 50May 31, 2008 4:47 PM

Watched it at NYU with a bunch of stoned queens, one of whom had taken acid and freaked out smashed a mirror, made Karen Black seem tame. "Trilogy of Terror", it was a Barry Diller "ABC Movie of the Week".

by Anonymousreply 51May 31, 2008 4:49 PM

r45, a majority of the NYC daytime actors in the 60s/70s were gay. Back then, many of them came from the theatre, not from an underwear catalog. I'm sure a lot of them hung out together. Must've been a hoot.

by Anonymousreply 52May 31, 2008 4:53 PM

Now we know how old AdamBlast is. I'm guessing 77?

by Anonymousreply 53May 31, 2008 4:56 PM

The series had location shooting at various places around Newport, Rhode Island. The Collins mansion is still there, part of Salve Regina College.

On one of the special Dark Shadows DVDs that's out (not the ones part of the original series), the actress who played Carolyn takes a tour of the various locations as they stand today (or at least as of 1996).

by Anonymousreply 54May 31, 2008 5:17 PM

The Barnabas/Burke Devlin flirtation scene

"The way we intimate things without actually coming out..."

"Two swordsman ... you thrust... I parry"

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 55May 31, 2008 5:35 PM

thanks r55.

"thank you for playing the game"

by Anonymousreply 56May 31, 2008 7:06 PM

Ada hanging out with Joe haskell and Barnabus Collins? I bet that was fun. You gays in the 70s had all the fun.

by Anonymousreply 57May 31, 2008 7:11 PM

oh my god, some of these dialogue "bloopers" are really hysterical.

And thank you r55, I can't believe I never thought to YouTube "Dark Shadows"!! I am now disappearing into my computer for a week or two to relive my adolescence (why would I want to do that?).

Maybe they have the final episode and I can finally let go of the hatred for my mother due to that fucking day of torture when she made me miss it to go to Hebrew School.

by Anonymousreply 58May 31, 2008 7:28 PM

whoops, forgot the link to the bloopers (I can't believe I am actually using the word bloopers)

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 59May 31, 2008 7:32 PM

Jerry Lacey was Rev. Trask - married to Julia Duffy.

by Anonymousreply 60May 31, 2008 7:43 PM

Trivia notes: Roger Davis, one of the major players on Shadows, was married to Jaclyn Smith at the time. She was thisclose to being the actress to replace the departing Alexandra Moltke as Vicki Winters. The role wound up going to Betsy Durkin, who last a month.

Nancy Barrett (Carolyn) and David Ford (Sam) married after meeting on DS. He was twice her age. She said later on that she fell in love with him because she thought he was so damn talented.

Clarice Blackburn, who played vinegary Mrs. Johnson, went onto a successful soap writing career, writing for AMC for many years.

by Anonymousreply 61May 31, 2008 7:51 PM

"Vinegary" is a great adjective!

by Anonymousreply 62May 31, 2008 7:58 PM

I just bought some of the DVDs

by Anonymousreply 63May 31, 2008 8:43 PM

Ada a/k/a Constance Ford used to live in HK and also hung with Margaret Colin at Mike's 10th Bar & Grill, now an Egyptian restaurant. Bring back a Mike's type actor, musician hangout! Somebody. I'm begging you! That would be tremendous!

by Anonymousreply 64May 31, 2008 9:17 PM

Joan Bennett visibly drunk in many scenes. Luved the parallel time story arc which gave the actors PLENTY to do. What drugs was the cast on?

by Anonymousreply 65May 31, 2008 9:18 PM

what is HK?

by Anonymousreply 66May 31, 2008 9:20 PM

The backstory of all these gay West Village actors and "Edge of Night", "Like an Eagle" star Dennis Parker, Joel Carothers would make a great play. Imagine going from the soap set to The Mineshaft or The Spike.

by Anonymousreply 67May 31, 2008 9:20 PM

They also summered in The Pines & P-town in the 70s, those could be shooting locations. What're they going for in the film, total campiness I hope. And I hope it's a boomer director like Joel Schumacher or Dick Donner, not Tim Burton.

by Anonymousreply 68May 31, 2008 9:22 PM

I used to see Joel Crothers at the bars. Nice guy. Very good looking in person

by Anonymousreply 69May 31, 2008 9:22 PM

Hell's Kitsch, duh...how Cher Horowitz of you.

by Anonymousreply 70May 31, 2008 9:23 PM

Amy Heckerling signed to do "Dark Shadows" comedy.

by Anonymousreply 71May 31, 2008 9:24 PM

Wearing my new "DS"-logo tee, I got it in white & black. It's very snug but I luv luv luv it.

by Anonymousreply 72May 31, 2008 9:25 PM


by Anonymousreply 73June 1, 2008 4:51 AM

"The backstory of all these gay West Village actors and "Edge of Night", "Like an Eagle" star Dennis Parker, Joel Carothers would make a great play. Imagine going from the soap set to The Mineshaft or The Spike."

It's sad that life didn't work out too well for Crothers or Parker (nee' Dennis Posa, aka Wade Nichols).

by Anonymousreply 74June 1, 2008 11:29 AM

I think that the behind the scenes stuff of Dark Shadows would make a great TV Show. ABC would be the perfect network, since they aired the original. Of course, you'd probably have to get the consent of all the living actors to air it and protray them accurately. I'm not sure how Frid would take to being revealed as gay-but then again he's gotta be in his 80's and living in Canada, so maybe he wouldn't give a rat's ass. There were some candid shots of DS cast members on a website I saw a couple of years ago, and there is one with Jonahthan Frid and Louis Edmonds at Fire Island and Frid is sporting a Speedo, and looking quite hot!

by Anonymousreply 75June 1, 2008 12:09 PM

Dennis Cooney, David O'Brien and Michael Lipton used to hang with Connie, Jon and Joel at that same bar.

by Anonymousreply 76June 1, 2008 1:01 PM

R75, I think Frid is more or less out

by Anonymousreply 77June 1, 2008 9:38 PM

I know a guy who used to be a rent boy in the 70s and claimed Frid was one of his clients

by Anonymousreply 78June 2, 2008 2:05 AM

David O'Brien was gay? Who knew.

by Anonymousreply 79June 2, 2008 2:14 AM

Sure, he died from Aids too. Does anyone know weht Michael Lipton? He seems to have vanished from the planet.

Tell me, was Val Dufour part of the crowd. He was very gay and very handsome in his youth.

I saw him right before he passed away. I couldn't believe it was the same guy.

by Anonymousreply 80June 2, 2008 2:24 AM

Micheal Lipton is retired and living in upstate New York.

by Anonymousreply 81June 2, 2008 2:37 AM

Someone on here said they went to Frid's West Village pad for dinner. And the first thing you see when you walk in is the infamous Barnabas portrait. Then further in is a framed shot of Frid nude from the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 82June 2, 2008 2:46 AM

this thread is great fun.

Tell us more about the old days. They must have been wild. Wild sex, wild parties..yada

by Anonymousreply 83June 2, 2008 2:54 AM

They were all gay. Even little David queened it up every time he turned evil (which was a frequent occurance).

by Anonymousreply 84June 2, 2008 3:22 AM

I love how all of these old soap actors were gay. Did the housefraus who watched these shows know? I love it!

by Anonymousreply 85June 2, 2008 3:28 AM

Did anyone here know Joel Crothers? I had a huge crush on him when I was a kid

by Anonymousreply 86June 2, 2008 3:29 AM

I always knew these ppl were gay, but never cared. They were some of the most talented folks around.

Does anyone remember Gene Lindsey? He was also on the doctors. I met him once. He was so stoned he could hardly stand

by Anonymousreply 87June 2, 2008 3:51 AM

Dark Shadows has a very active fan base, the convention is annual.

by Anonymousreply 88June 4, 2008 10:24 PM

I wanna have a "DS" party! Show the dvds, have some kind of contest, play music from 1966-1971!

by Anonymousreply 89June 4, 2008 10:39 PM

I'm playing Hermans Hermits, The Cyrkle, Paul Revere & The Raiders, The Monkees, The Beach Boys, The Hollies and more.

by Anonymousreply 90June 4, 2008 10:56 PM

A DS party would be fun

by Anonymousreply 91June 5, 2008 1:04 AM

Did anyone catch "Night of Dark Shadows" on cable Friday night? Grayson Hall was such a torment! How could they make a DS movie without Barnabas???

Loved the Lyndhurst location (which is in Tarrytown, not Dobbs Ferry, btw) but what a nightmare that they filmed with "live" sound!

by Anonymousreply 92July 27, 2008 3:11 PM

Damn, I missed it

by Anonymousreply 93July 27, 2008 10:26 PM

I loved Grayson Hall. She was like a grag queen in a woman'd body

by Anonymousreply 94July 28, 2008 2:55 AM

When I watch it today all I notice is how the boommike is always coming into the frame and the special effects were anything but - like when Barnabas was in "bat" mode - a plastic bat on a string being jerked around? - Of course when I was 7 it was a different story - racing home from school so I could park it in front of the console TV exactly at 4:30 - I thought it was the scariest show - I still have the soundtrack. Dark Shadows and Gilbert O'Sullivan - two of my childhood guilty pleasures.

by Anonymousreply 95July 28, 2008 3:09 AM
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