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Royal Experts: Is Peter Phillips Royal?

I've been having this debate with a coworker today about Peter Phillips’ status as a royal. My coworker claims that as the grandson of the monarch and the son of a princess, he's royal. She said that by blood, he's as royal as William, Harry, and the York sisters. (Edward’s kids are, once again, the forgotten stepchildren.)

My argument is that he is a member of the royal family, but not royal. He's just like all the other Brits who can claim to be descendants of a monarch, without a royal title of their own to make that connection relevant.

What say you DL?

by Anonymousreply 11July 19, 2025 8:57 AM

Kicking myself for not creating a poll.

by Anonymousreply 1July 18, 2025 9:48 PM

He is genetically half of royal blood, but he is zero percent in legal terms. He is a commoner.

by Anonymousreply 2July 18, 2025 9:54 PM

Create a new thread with poll, OP, and link it to this one.

by Anonymousreply 3July 18, 2025 10:02 PM

[quote] My coworker claims that as the grandson of the monarch and the son of a princess, he's royal. She said that by blood, he's as royal as William, Harry, and the York sisters.

It’s a good argument. Grandchildren are close relatives, so they should be considered part of the royal family, which is the definition of royal. On the other hand, maybe it would be good to limit it to those who are a king, queen, prince or princess, thinking ahead to if and when Harry’s title is removed.

by Anonymousreply 4July 18, 2025 10:19 PM

I’m with you, OP, because throughout time the “royal” male baby came from a royal male’s sperm. A royal princess bearing a son by a commoner? Think of being a half-royal, always involved in private family events, but doing no royal duties. Princess Margaret, certainly royal, married a commoner who was given an earldom, but the eventual parents of two asked that the children not be given royal titles. They wanted the children to have “normal” lives. David and Sarah have. Princess Anne, certainly royal, married a commoner, who famously declined any titles for their children Peter and Zara. Again, tight with the royal family, which, after all is their family, they are at numerous private family matters, but do not do Official duties for “The Firm.” Not royal.

by Anonymousreply 5July 18, 2025 10:58 PM

royal size meat verification will decide.

by Anonymousreply 6July 18, 2025 11:05 PM

Peter Phillips (and his sister, Zara) are members of the royal family, but they are not royal.

Royal titles come through the male descendants of the sovereign. Peter's father, Mark Phillips, did not want to accept a royal title; therefore, his children are not royal. As a female, Princess Anne cannot pass along her royal title to her children.

by Anonymousreply 7July 18, 2025 11:10 PM

It’s probably way past time to have things changed to make women and men, and their descendants, treated the same. There’s no place for that kind of discrimination in Western countries in the current era.

by Anonymousreply 8July 18, 2025 11:17 PM

Sorry, I need to know what kind of work OP does and how a debate on the topic came about.

by Anonymousreply 9July 18, 2025 11:19 PM

R9 nothing related to royalty. But I just found someone at work who is also a fan of The Crown. That lead us down to this debate.

by Anonymousreply 10July 19, 2025 8:44 AM

[QUOTE]Mark Phillips, did not want to accept a royal title

I don't think he could have been given a "Royal" title. A aristocratic one like "Earl of Snowdon," which he could pass on, yes. But only women can get Princess or Queen by marrying in.

by Anonymousreply 11July 19, 2025 8:57 AM
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