New Gwyneth Paltrow Book Addresses Longtime Winona Ryder Feud Rumors Over ‘Shakespeare in Love’

It sounds like no one likes Goop.

Winona was a 2-time Academy Award-nominated actress by the time Shakespeare in Love came along. She would've been sublime in the role.

R1 She gives off an obnoxious snob vibe.

Goop is someone who never got a snack growing up and it shows.

Gwennie waa such a snooze in that movie. Ryder would have been a much better choice.

Team Winona (at least vs. Vagina Candle)

R4 - exact opposite - she was never told no and was a daddy's girl. She even admits she was a mean girl and bully when she was younger.

Winona Ryder would have made a teeny, tiny Romeo.

At least Paltrow is tall (5’9”)

With Gwyneth I just get to the vagina egg issue and cant get any further.

Goop needs a smack.

Once you obtain a vagina, r9, you can decide if inserting jade and/or crystal eggs up it is appropriate.

Who is reading a book about her?

Nothing could save that dreck. It's like waterboarding.

Wino forever💪🍷

Julia Roberts wanted that role BADLY--I believe I read about that here on DL--but I think she couldn't handle the accent.

I love watching Winona but she makes me cringe a lot. She doesn't quite deliver but I will always watch something with her in it; she's compelling, as is Julia.

Gwyneth is technically the better actress (over Winona, IMO). She won for Shakespeare because of the Weinstein push and the strange obsession Hollywood had with that film. I didn't mind it so much because I thought she was incredible in Emma a few years prior.

Julia badly wanted to do the movie with Daniel Day Lewis but dropped out when he turned it down.

Gwyneth was perfectly lovely in the movie. I don't care about her in the least but I'm a huge Stoppard fan. I would be the first to object if I thought she harmed that effervescent script.

I can't see a single reason why Ryder would have been better, or even as good. Viola in Twelfth Night, to whom the movie compares its Viola, is a very feisty number, whereas Ryder specialises in Wide-eyed Waif.

Of course Cate should have won the Oscar, and I don't doubt the Weinstein lobby won the day, but comedic performances are always underrated, Gwyneth did well, and it wasn't as big an injustice as people like to pretend. Her acceptance speech was the worst thing about it.

[quote]After a story about Gwyneth allegedly stealing the script from Winona’s coffee table reached the media, Gwyneth told friends that Ryder had started the rumor,

Winona Ryder is an actual convicted thief. Team Gwyneth.

I don't think Winona could've handled the accent if her performance in Dracula is anything to go by (or maybe I just hate her high, thin, quavery voice)

Agree with R17, she was sublime in a tough role. I love Winona but I don't see her carrying that movie in the same way.

Tough role? In what way? She had to pretend to be a man? Badly, I might add. Paltrow was fine, but in no reality was that Oscar-level acting.

That film was a critical darling that year. She was going to win no matter what.

Minority view, obviously, but I really like SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE, and I think that Paltrow's terrific in it.

Goop blew Harvey Weinstein to get the role, and again to get the Oscar.

Winona did not.

Does anyone here seriously not understand how this worked?

[quote] It sounds like no one likes Goop.

Because she’s a lying fucking cunt.

I wish that guy that shat on her ceiling would return for round two.

Doesn’t she also claim she was “discovered” in a coffee shop and not because of the obvious nepotism involved?

She always has come across as a rancid bitch but who knew that she was such a disgusting liar.

Julia was actually offered the role outright when Ed Zwick was tapped to direct. But she would only do it with DDL who led her on just long enough to fuck her a few times and eventually turn it down. She ditched the part after but got what was rumored to be a good loud dicking fuckfest out it.

When did she become Korean?

R26 he shat on her ceiling or her floor?!

Winona's facework looks awful. Poor thing.

[quote] I don't think Winona could've handled the accent if her performance in Dracula is anything to go by (or maybe I just hate her high, thin, quavery voice)

You weren't impressed by "take me away from all this...death!"??

[quote] Another layer to the alleged drama came in the form of a 2009 Goop newsletter — the early days of the wellness brand — where Paltrow spoke candidly about a past friendship. Fans were quick to speculate she was discussing Ryder, but this was never confirmed.

[quote]“Back in the day, I had a ‘frenemy’ who, as it turned out, was pretty hell-bent on taking me down. This person really did what they could to hurt me,” Paltrow wrote at the time. “I was deeply upset, I was angry, I was all of those things you feel when you find out that someone you thought you liked was venomous and dangerous. I restrained myself from fighting back.”

[quote]She added, “I tried to take the high road. But one day I heard that something unfortunate and humiliating had happened to this person. And my reaction was deep relief and … happiness. There went the high road.”

It's hard not to weirdly admire someone who is so open about how incredibly petty and spiteful she is.

Winona Team. You can see Gwyneth is the type is snotty bitch that manipulates all situations in her favor. I believe Winona

R9 It isn just the physical idea of the egg in vagina its the fact she was publicly marketing it and other things. I don't like gene simmons either with his tongue surgery either so it's not about Women bashing sorry to disappoint you. When i see her name I see a big red arrows floating about her with ME ME ME written on them. I'm a person who believe greed and vacuousness shouldn't be encouraged. If one wanted to put an egg up there thats fine with me. I cant judge what i don't hear about. Adelante !

[quote][R26] he shat on her ceiling or her floor?!

BOTH!!

[quote]this permanent ‘friend of’ didn’t even bother to clean up after himself, but instead, left money for the cleaning staff,” the post read. “Forcing them to scrub away at the walls, ceiling and floors

I kind of loved how she handled the whole Blasberg situation, basically telling Hampton neighbors who she knew couldn't keep their mouth shut (Jessica Seinfeld).

[quote] Goop needs a smack.

She needs a kick to the cuntbone.

[quote]r27 Doesn’t she also claim she was “discovered” in a coffee shop and not because of the obvious nepotism involved?

Yeah, she was "discovered" for her first movie, HOOK, by Steven Spielberg... her [italic]godfather.

Her mother, Blythe Danner, is a better actress and much more likable.

Did Blythe Danner ever do any big dramatic roles, dislaying range? She's kind of before my time and the movies she made were either a bit obscure (Lovin' Molly?) or just not something I'd ever watch (1776).

R36 that’s some range!!

R40 Danner is just as smug..maybe more so.

[quote] Her mother, Blythe Danner, is a better actress and much more likable.

Yet she raised a fucking monster.

Butches are bred, not born.

In her memoir YOU'LL NEVER EAT LUNCH IN THIS TOWN AGAIN Julia Phillips portrays the 1970s Danner as a ditzy airhead she can't stand.

Phillips and the other characters laugh at Danner until she cries.

Does Gwyneth admit that she sucked Harvey’s cock?

Ugh, I loathe Paltrow and I hated Shakespeare In Love because of her and Ben Affleck.

I love how both look awful in Op’s picture. These two are not loved,

Obnoxious as she is sometimes, I find Gwyneth the better actress, she can’t be quite good (Ripley, Emma) or just serviceable. Winona, on the other hand, is more flakey and hasn’t seriously acted for years.

^she CAN be quite good

I'd suck Joseph Fiennes off

[quote] Butches are bred, not born.

Can you put me in touch with a good breeder?

Does Goop even act anymore, or just sell her Cunt Candles?

She does Ryan Murphy shit because she’s fucking his writing partner, but that doesn’t count. Is she doing any film work?