RFK Jr considers dropping out to help Trump, running mate says

As if that would "help" Trump rather than just make him look even crazier (if that's possible).

Oh, please, yes! And replace JD Vance with him!

[quote]“There’s two options that we’re looking at, and one is staying in, forming that new party, but we run the risk of a Kamala Harris and [Tim] Walz presidency because we draw votes from Trump,” said Shanahan, a wealthy Silicon Valley attorney, reportedly worth $1bn as a result of her former marriage to Sergey Brin, the co-founder of Google. “[Or] we walk away right now and join forces with Donald Trump … and we explain to our base why we’re making this decision.”

Three very stable geniuses join forces.

That cunt is lucky she married (and divorced) rich because her brains are not going to get her very far.

Political road kill and couch molesters, so unappealing.

Why does RFK jr hate the Democratic party so much? His father and uncles must be spinning in their graves. Does it come down to brain damage?

Who are you referring to, r4?

Shanahan.

I mean, you'd struggle to find someone creepier than JD Vance but this would do it.

I always thought this was going to happen. RFK Jr is 2 steps short of being full-blown QAnon. I can't stand listening to him.

Very disturbed, like his mother. Sad to see.

He’s behaving like the Yang guy, doing anything for power and prominence

Speaking of useless idiots, whatever happened to Yang and his Forward Party?

In his case, the apple does fall far from the tree.

Maybe he can spend the time off his campaign getting a nice dermal abrasion. I hear lasers work wonders.

Or was it corrosive chemicals? Something painful, at any rate.

I want h to compete with Orange Hitler child for the stupid vote.

Wasn't that his entire fucking purpose anyway?

Grifter. He wanted to have Harris invite him to her team and since she didn't, he'll bitch baby his way over to the dark side.

[quote] Why does RFK jr hate the Democratic party so much? His father and uncles must be spinning in their graves. Does it come down to brain damage?

He is just another Russian asset who hung out with Jeffrey Epstein and other pedos like Scott Ritter. Like the rest of the Russian assets, he has no moral compass.

Dingbats.

And kind of sad. Just as it becomes obvious that the country is losing interest in Trump, brainworm wants to join him?

Did he really hang out with Epstein r18? Did he go on the plane or to the island? Is it possible he’s being blackmailed right now? What a freak.

He downplays their relationship, but he's friendly with too many sketchy people for me to believe it's all a coincidence. He was hanging out with Scott Ritter just around a week ago, and the next day the FBI raided Ritter's house!

Cranks and loons and fucked up assholes, have a way of finding each other sometimes r21.

His only worth is from the neck down.

Maybe he’s ready to give his full-throated support to Trump.

On Friday I saw a group of lunatics hanging huge RFK Jr banners from a local freeway overpass. They were there for hours! If he drops out now, all of that would have been a huge waste of time.

Never mind. It already was.

What state was this in, R25?

That’ll give Trump an extra 5 points.

[quote]Why does RFK jr hate the Democratic party so much?

r6 Most of them have bent to the will of big pharma and corporations who damage the environment with their business practices and keep Americans sick and heavily medicated for profit.

State of Delusion

R28, but you think Trump and Republicans give a shit about the environment? 🤔

Magat shit head.

Fuck. You.

Isn't forgetfulness proof President Biden could no longer function as the nominee?

How do you not recall a widely reported story of Roadkill Jr. offering to support the VPOTUS, IF she found a role for his demented ass in her government.

You don't recall events from week to week.

Isn't forgetfulness a sign something is not right (with you) cognitively?

RFK Jr and Nicole Shanahan don't seem to understand is that Democratic voters don't like them, don't agree with them and don't want them in the race.

Yes, the Democratic Party do view them as spoilers, but this is not the full story. RFK JR and Nicole Shanahan are highly disliked for their political viewpoints. The Democratic Party would prefer that Jill Stein not be in the race. And in 2000, the Democratic Party preferred that Ralph Nadar not be in the race, but there hasn't been the amount of animosity toward Stein and Nadar as there has been toward RFK Jr. We don't like him. We don't agree with him. RFK Jr simply wants to believe that this "spoiler" excuse is the only reason. It's not. We don't like him.

Since when are Republicans stewards of the environment.

You magats lie about everything. All. The. Time.

I don't understand how anyone even takes him seriously at all. Just the sound of his strangled voice makes him sound weird.

Jimmy Carter (Democrat) was the first president to install White House solar panels, then Ronald Reagan (puke) removed them.

[quote]Why does RFK jr hate the Democratic party so much? His father and uncles must be spinning in their graves. Does it come down to brain damage?

He's getting dark $$ from someone - probably Putin - to serve as a disrupter with enough high profile name recognition to make a difference. There was an article, I can't remember where, how RFK Jr went from moderately wealthy life in NY to a guy living in a Beverly Hills (or somewhere in that area) mansion. He's crazy as fuck, but he's also someone paid to spread lies - a human troll

Actually, he might help Trump in making the orange one appear just that little bit less insane.

This will only help Dump.

r30 No. Why is it so difficult for you people to stay on target when your party is called out on...literally anything?

[quote]Most [Democrats] have bent to the will of big pharma and corporations

Where is the lie?

[quote]This will only help Dump.

Of course it will help Trump. One Trump-leaning lunatic pulling out of the race isn´t going to help Harris.

Brainworm Bobby was always going to do what benefitted Trump. That's why he oozed into the race and that's why he will ooze out, leaving behind a smelly smear. Some of the Musk/Thiel $ will be headed his way, no doubt.

Wasn’t he begging Kamala for a job last eeek if he threw his “support” behind her?

Ethel and every other member of that family, plus Caroline, need to start getting the private message from Democratic powers-that-be that if this continues, the word "Kennedy" is going to be removed from certain cultural centers, airports, major bridges and graduate schools at Harvard -- in order to promote lesser recognized people of color and in the interests of diversity, of course. Oh, but they can't be expected to control RFK Jr.? Fuck that. Ethel the broodmare birthed and raised this diseased POS. Want some shred of "legacy" to remain? Fix it!

R28 RFK Jr.’s campaign is literally being bankrolled by Timothy Mellon, one of the biggest polluters in America. ROTFLMAO at your your stupidity.

Its lying, r45. Magats lie. About everything.

Brainworms and magats are a perfect fit

r45 Never claimed the man had integrity. Just answered the damn question that was asked with a factual statement about basically every stupid politician in this stupid country, ever. And yes, that includes democrats. You're all sheep.

[quote]Why does RFK jr hate the Democratic party so much? His father and uncles must be spinning in their graves. Does it come down to brain damage?

[quote]He's getting dark $$ from someone - probably Putin - to serve as a disrupter with enough high profile name recognition to make a difference. There was an article, I can't remember where, how RFK Jr went from moderately wealthy life in NY to a guy living in a Beverly Hills (or somewhere in that area) mansion. He's crazy as fuck, but he's also someone paid to spread lies - a human troll

RFK Jr's net worth, including his wife who played Larry David's wife in Curb, is estimated to be only $15mm. He cannot support the lifestyle to which he believes he's entitled. He's not Caroline Schlossberg who appears to be quite wealthy. RFK had 11 children. JFK had two, plus Jackie's money from Onasis, plus it sounds like she inherited the bulk of JFK Jr's estate, not Caroline's family.

Of course, he's taking money from somewhere because he has few options to make money.

[quote]In 1982, Kennedy was sworn in as an assistant district attorney for Manhattan. After failing the New York bar exam, he resigned in July 1983. That September, he was charged with heroin possession in Rapid City, South Dakota. He pleaded guilty to a single felony charge of possession of heroin in February 1984, whereupon he was sentenced to two years of probation and community service. He originally faced a potential sentence of two years in prison.

r49 It's almost like...politicians in this country are opportunistic money hungry liars or something. So weird.

[quote][R49] It's almost like...politicians in this country are opportunistic money hungry liars or something. So weird.

False equivalence, Mr. Maga.

[quote]Most of them have bent to the will of big pharma and corporations

What you fail to recognize is that we have a two-party system in which the Democrats have to not only fight big pharma and corporations but their colleagues in Congress in order to get anything done. Add in human nature — greed — and it's almost impossible for any major legislation to pass, but here we are with Democrats obtaining the first real victories against big pharma since forever with a price cap of $35 a month for insulin and a yearly cap of $2000 for drugs for seniors, a goal we've been working toward since the Carter years.

r52 You believing that any politicians in this country have any real plan to go against an industry that is one of their biggest campaign donors in any way that is meaningful is about as frustrating as the drones on here who label any critique of Democrats as coming from Trump supporters (really tired of that shit too).

The amount of money received is damn-near an even split. But you people actually trust these individuals to affect positive change in this country? It's senseless. They're bought and paid for. And when they aren't, their campaigns are sabotaged by their own parties. This country is run by psychopaths and supported by the deaf, blind, and dumb who believe their lies.

During the rollout of the Covid vaccines, my MAGA sister cited Junior to defend her unwillingness to be vaccinated. She asked my BIL, "Why would [Kennedy] risk his reputation" if there wasn't substance to this position? When my BIL related this story to me, I said, "Reputation?! He's been a crackpot for years!"

[quote] Ethel and every other member of that family, plus Caroline, need to start getting the private message from Democratic powers-that-be that if this continues, the word "Kennedy" is going to be removed from certain cultural centers, airports, major bridges and graduate schools at Harvard -- in order to promote lesser recognized people of color and in the interests of diversity, of course.

Are we so certain that Ethel is now compos mentis?

he's like a character form "it's always sunny"

The co-writer of Game Change who is not John Heilemann said today that a Kennedy endorsement would have minimal to no effect on Trump's chances, and could even backfire on Trump with independents and the unaffiliated by highlighting all of RFK, Jr.'s wacky positions.

Ethel is over ninety. She's barely coherent.

This idea she can somehow run the family is woefully out of date. No one runs that family anymore.

At 96, Ethel is closer to 100 than 90.

Well, you can tell Bobby's brainworm is the boss of him!

R53, it is frustrating that we have a system in which corporate and dark money has a stranglehold on our politicians, but we must live in reality. If Democrats didn't take money from big pharma, they would be at a strategic disadvantage to the point of never being elected to anything, not even dog catcher. Nevertheless, here we are with the first meaningful strike against drug companies in decades with a resolution that is saving tens of $billions, saving seniors' lives, and an opening for further advances in reining in the price of drugs.

You don't hear Republikkans crowing about it, do you?

[quote]Nicole Shanahan says she and independent 2024 candidate could ‘walk away and join forces with Donald Trump’

Bears beware!

[quote]here we are with Democrats obtaining the first real victories against big pharma since forever with a price cap of $35 a month for insulin and a yearly cap of $2000 for drugs for seniors

r52 Bro. This was from Trump's EO 13937 signed on 7/24/2020 which was scheduled to go into effect on January 22, 2021. Biden used an EO to freeze the order along with everything else Trump put in place and then finally allowed it to pass in 2023. Why are you letting them play in your face like this?? Now, there is a lot of other shit that the Reps fuck up when it comes to healthcare, SS (raising the retirement age to 70), but this is not the flex you seem to think it is.

[quote]An important caveat to note is that Executive Order 13937, issued by Trump, had not yet been put into law. Though it was published in the federal register on Dec. 23, 2020, the order was not scheduled to go into effect until Jan. 22, 2021 — two days after Biden issued a freeze on all rules made by Trump that were not yet in effect.

[quote]Donald Trump announces he is capping the cost of insulin to $35 a month for Medicare enrollees - May 26, 2020

They are hookers advertising their wares to the highest bidder. Don't you find it interesting how quickly this was released after DNC rebuffed the bozo? The problem is that the wares they've been peddling are busted and hardly of any interest to either side.

[quote]Biden Calls For Price Of Insulin To Be Capped At $35 Per Month - March 2, 2022

Basically, the Biden administration expanded it to cover more seniors on Medicare. That's it. It's almost like neither party is allowed to go over a certain price. Surely the pharma companies didn't negotiate a single price and dangle dollars of campaign funds before politicians looking to stay in power? That's just crazy-talk.

In a perfect world, seniors and those with disabilities wouldn't have to pay one dime for healthcare. Wake me when that happens.

R66 is right. Trump taking them up on their offer would be so transparently scummy, transactional, weird, etc. But most of all weak and desperate. Which is the most injurious to a campaign. And the media response would range from excoriation, to bumbling justification. A shitshow, basically.

The downsides really outweigh the upsides and it would present very questionable value.

BUMP for posters who keep re-posting this news

if anyone needs a padded room, it's this bozo

You know who u would enjoy hearing from on RFK? Larry David. He despises Trump, how does he feel about his former cast mate being married to this POS? Hollywood Jews should eviscerate her, attack her with everything, black ball her fucking ass.

RFK supporters support him because they hate Trump and he is not Trump. They’re not going suddenly decide that they like Trump and vote for him just because their consolation prize candidate tells them to. I imagine a lot of RFK supporters will stay home or write in his name rather than vote for R or the D.

Is Ms. Hines still looking for "acting" opportunities?

What he HAS made completely clear is that he’s an asshole. He’s an aged junkie and it DID affect his brain.

r72 - I read somewhere that LD actually introduced Hines and RFK. It makes sense, as Larry has long mingled in those Hollywood liberal elite circles, and I'm sure RFK has ties into that scene too. Wasn't there a rumor that Larry's real ex slept with Al Gore when she and Larry were still married?

I suspect if RFK does endorse Trump, it will be because Harris was not willing to promise him anything and Trump was. RFK seems more than anything like he longs to be as important as other members of his family.

"You're important to ME, Bobby. We'll be together, forever."

There’s definitely an easily addled old hippie contingent that the likes of RFK Jr. and Chris Martinson are trying to sway with a pseudo back to the land “who needs antibiotics and blood pressure meds when you can just raise chickens and chew willow bark” train of unthinking.

Unless Trump actually dumps Vance for 🐛🧠 as VP I don’t think he’ll actually pick up their votes though. They’ll stay home or vote for another third party candidate. If he’s smart he’ll dump Vance for 🪱🧠. Of course worm 🪱 💀 will probably then just kill him after they take office if they are elected.

IMO, he was raised to think he could and should be POTUS by his late 30s / early 40s.

He is salty about that not happening.

Silicon Valley Trump Supporters "Deluding Themselves," Says Michael Moritz

Here's the output of the poster who's attacking Dems and soft-selling Trump on this thread:

R28, R40, R48, R50, R53, R64, R65, R67, R68

It's worth pointing out that this account was one of three that appeared back in 2022 cosplaying as black conservatives. The other two have been redlined ([ 𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐥 𝟓𝟗𝟗𝟑 ], aka 'Black Millennial, and [ 𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐥 𝟔𝟎𝟎𝟎 ]). But this one assumed a low profile for awhile and escaped censure.

Originally, this one along with its wingman accounts, kept promoting Black Israelites. From the 2022 thread, 𝐁𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐦𝐛𝐬𝐡𝐞𝐥𝐥: 𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐢𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐑𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐚𝐬 "𝐩𝐬𝐲𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐟𝐚𝐫𝐞":

[quote]Ok then. Here's a fun and controversial answer: Black people (specifically those descended from slaves) are the original Jews, belonging to "the tribe of Judah" and those who call themselves Jews today (including those in Israel) are imposters who all belong to "a synagogue of Satan." GO!

This one tried to distinguish itself from the other two accounts by claiming to be a conservative black woman, supposedly married to a wealthy conservative white man who's somebody in politics (ostensibly modeled on something like Candace Owens and George Farmer), but gradually stopped making these claims, and began claiming to be a member of the US military (later occasionally addressing me as "Sir"). Presumably it was still identifying as a conservative black woman, but no longer typically put these claims into play in arguments.

In April 2024, it waded into a thread (𝐊𝐲𝐥𝐞 𝐑𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐝 𝐒𝐨 𝐏𝐨𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐲 𝐨𝐧 𝐔𝐒𝐌𝐂 𝐄𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐄𝐱𝐚𝐦 𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐇𝐞’𝐬 ‘𝐏𝐄𝐑𝐌𝐀𝐍𝐄𝐍𝐓𝐋𝐘’ 𝐁𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐅𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐀𝐩𝐩𝐥𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐀𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧), where it defended Kyle Rittenhouse, claming "He acted in self-defense," and that "He ran to the people who supported and embraced him. If the left didn't want that to happened, maybe...hear me out...they shouldn't have shit on him (and continue to) from day one." It was in this thread it made the military claims about itself.

And it's selling right-wing arguments here on this thread, just without any of the personal identification claims (so far).

Thanks PD / r181

[quote] Unless Trump actually dumps Vance for 🐛🧠 as VP I don’t think he’ll actually pick up their votes though. They’ll stay home or vote for another third party candidate. If he’s smart he’ll dump Vance for 🪱🧠. Of course worm 🪱 💀 will probably then just kill him after they take office if they are elected.

not being a Japanese schoolgirl, I could not make any sense of your weird emoji script.

The brainworm told Bobby to drop out and back Trump today so he could "disrupt" the DNC.

Oh. My. Goodness.

Sure, Bobby. You are certainly "disrupting" us! I'll expect the announcement that tonight and tomorrow night's lineup --perhaps even Harris' plans to accept the nomination!-- will be cancelled.

R81, I'm wondering if it's this guy?

No idea, R85. But it's evidently a favorite pasttime of conservative trolls.

Around 2016, I used to frequently encounter Yahoo troll accounts claiming to be conservative black women 'with a PhD,' supposedly married to a wealthy white conservative politician, sporting usernames like 'Einsteinetta,' 'Desiree,' and the like. The claimed identity profile was practically a trope.

So when I encountered it here, I didn't believe it, not for a moment.

CONFIRMED

Yes, R83 who could the emoji combo of worm and brain possibly be about in an RFK Jr. thread?It is verily a conundrum for the ages; a mystery wrapped in a riddle shrouded in a mystery if you you will.

"Einsteinetta" is the greatest fake name I've heard in a long time.

It's like when they used to have the parodies of the London times columnist Mary Ann Sieghart trumpeting the brilliance of her daughters "Intelligencia" and "Brainella" in [italic]Private Eye.[/italic]

[quote]RFK Jr. plans to end his 2024 presidential bid and endorse Trump.

This actually helps both candidates I think (though Trump more).

Anyone who knew and approved of RFK's "policies", probably would have voted for Trump as a 2nd choice, so Harris isn't really losing any votes here.

There are also (how many I don't know, but I wonder), a number of people would have seen the name "Kennedy", and voted for someone thinking of JFK (mistakenly). I would imagine these people would now vote for Harris.

r87 I hate it here. -_-

The constant great-white-shark “dead” in his eyes, always creeps the hell outta me.

Hideous Fuck

Yes,those reptilian eyes.

Methinks you’re way overblowing this, R93.

That would be appropriate

He would have done better had he adopted the official motto, "A turd for every punchbowl!"

R95-We have a Kennedy on board.

R95 = Cheryl Hines, on her way to becoming an alcoholic.

On Pod Saves America they were saying that Cheryl is very much against RFK endorsing Trump and that there is tension between her and Nicole. Who knows if she could actually influence his decision or not though.

Oh, resident troll R53/whatever you call yourself:

[quote][R52] Bro. This was from Trump's EO 13937 signed on 7/24/2020 which was scheduled to go into effect on January 22, 2021.

I'm not an expert in Executive Orders, but I have never heard of an outgoing POTUS issue one in the waning days of his administration that would only take effect [italic]after[/italic] he'd left office. Before you crow about Trump's magnanimity, recall that Trump created a series of messes that he dumped in Biden's lap, from the shit show that was our withdrawal from Afghanistan (further recalling that Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11, he freed 5000 of the Taliban and al Queda's worst, and he handed our enemies in the Middle East literally $billions of abandoned equipment and supplies; it was, in a word, capitulation) to the shit show that was Covid, to the shit show that was the worst attack on democracy since the Civil War.

Trump's MO is chaos. I have no doubt that whatever was in EO 13937 contained poison pills, gifts to big Pharma, and enough caveats to choke a horse. Bro.

His skin is like a dinosaur's.

R102, are we talking about RFK Jr?

He strikes me as a crusty, deformed, filthy, callused, unvaccinated foot.

Palpatine's foot, maybe.

It occurred to me today that I have never once heard Trump laugh.

[quote]I have no doubt that whatever was in EO 13937

r101 Bold of you to contest something that you admittedly didn't even read. This is why I don't take most of you people on here seriously.

Trump's EO rule officially went into effect in July of 2021 but was never implemented. The HHS asked for it to be rescinded because of lack of administrative resources to support patients at federally funded health centers (read: low healthcare staffing). This is where the HHS had an issue and proposed or rescission. The Biden administration rescinded the portion of the rule that required more administrative support at federally funded health centers but the portion of the plan that covered insulin prices being capped at $35 remained in place. Biden expanded upon it so that it covered more patients.

The Trump EO was temporarily frozen in January 2021 (when it was indeed scheduled to go into effect initially), went into effect in July of 2021, had a portion of it rescinded by Biden to lessen the administrative burden on federally funded health centers while keeping the portion on insulin price caps at $35 and expanding that coverage to even more seniors. Basically, Biden and Trump worked together on the insulin price cap.

[quote]I'm not an expert in Executive Orders, but I have never heard of an outgoing POTUS issue one in the waning days of his administration that would only take effect after he'd left office.

I totally believe you're not an expert on EO. But, that's exactly what the hell happened, sooo...

[quote]Pursuant to the January 20, 2021, memorandum from the Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff, entitled “Regulatory Freeze Pending Review,” and OMB Memorandum M-21-14, [bold]the effective date of the “Implementation of Executive Order on Access to Affordable Life-Saving Medications” rule, published in the December 23, 2020, Federal Register (85 FR 83822), was delayed from January 22, 2021, to March 22, 2021 (86 FR 7069), to give HHS officials the opportunity for further review and consideration of the rule.[/bold]

🤡

R105. Your emoji was well placed.

Also, both Biden and Trump exaggerated this insulin accomplishment, anyway. The out of pocket cost for insulin users who have Medicare was costing about $37/mo on average. Those without insurance paid (and continue to pay) about $84/mo because neither plan covers uninsured Americans.

So, the insulin "price cap accomplishment" is hardly anything to brag about, let alone fight over "who did it first." Trump is literally whining about not being given credit for saving roughly half of America's diabetic patients a whopping $2/mo for insulin. That's what that price cap accomplished. 2 whole fucking dollars. Yeah, we're really winning as a nation.

[quote] [R102], are we talking about RFK Jr?

No, we're talking about Riz Ahmed, Rose!

RFK Jr.-Roadkill for Trump.

[quote] recalling that Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11, he freed 5000 of the Taliban and al Queda's worst, and he handed our enemies in the Middle East literally $billions of abandoned equipment and supplies; it was, in a word, capitulation

That should be a Democratic ad running in all the swing state markets.

As one old time politician said, this morning, "If RFK endorses Trump, Trump will own the endorsement along with the bear carcasses and the brain worms..."

Bear Carcasses 4 Trump! Yeah.

[quote] That should be a Democratic ad running in all the swing state markets.

Another ad, for more heavily Jewish areas, should be how, after Trump scrapped the Iran nuclear deal, one his own defense secretary testified before Congress Iran was largely honoring, Iran is now so very close to having nuclear capabilities. Like the overwhelming number of Orthodox Jews, my niece, who converted in adulthood, believes Trump is "better for the Jewish people."

This seems like a toxic lose-lose endorsement for both parties. Honestly, unless Trump is dumping Vance for worm brain I don’t see how this has an upside for either one of them.

Brainiac troll R53/R105, you provide no example nor evidence that any other EO has been issued by an outgoing president to take effect [italic]only after[/italic] his term ended. Good to know, bro.

You further admit and provide evidence that the EO was not thoughtfully prepared, vetted by the people who would be responsible for implementing it — you know, the cabinet officials sitting by Trump's side — nor even examined as to how and if it could be implemented, before it was proposed and signed. Good to know.

Clearly, despite not being an expert in executive orders, I claimed there were elements in the EO that were problematic and made it exactly what it was, a mere show meant to deceive the masses... and like clockwork despite all of the issues raised with his purposefully flawed EO, he is trying to take credit for Biden and Harris' accomplishment. You proved my point by enumerating the reasons the EO had to be delayed and eventually scrapped for the legislation that the Democrats passed to limit the out-of-pocket costs for Insulin. Good to know.

And after saying that we owe Trump the credit for capping the price of insulin and not Biden — which you clearly disprove — you claim that it's really no big deal after all. Good to know.

R53, there's a rock out there with your name on it; crawl back under because you're nothing but a troll, bro.

I think the RFK Jr-Trump alliance will repel more people than it will attract.

those on th left who would have voted for him would have done so because they didn't like Biden. But they likely prefer Harris. those who wouldn't vote for either are more likely to sit out or just vote for trump anyway. he's no ross perot. it's not going to matter much

Trump had to swat away a fly that was circling his word salad.

Trump is suggesting he may appoint RFK Jr. as CIA Director.

Obviously this was in exchange for some kind of "promise" from Trump of a position in the cabinet or the like. RFK Jr was blatantly selling his endorsement to either party a week or two ago, and Trump, as being in the more desperate position right now, took him up on it.

Every time I read an article about this loon, I remember reading an article about Jackie Kennedy where she would not allow Caroline and John Jr. to hang out with their cousins (Bobby and Ethel's kids) because they were a bad influence. Just saying...

So much for Trump draining the swamp.

He keeps saying "when my uncle was President" when he could just say "in the early 1960s". Ego and privilege are in his DNA. The inscription on his tombstone will be "My Uncle Was President."

[quote] Obviously this was in exchange for some kind of "promise" from Trump of a position in the cabinet or the like.

It makes sense not only for RFK Jr., by getting a job out of it, but also it could make his supporters happy by seeing him have some position of authority, whatever that might be.

Like I said earlier...Russian asset. All roads lead back to Putin.

Countdown to Cheryl filing for divorce has officially started.

Mr. I Hate Big Pharma has stock in Pfizer

Well, well, well! THE BEST IS YET TO COME!!

Paywall R131. What’s the upshot of this?

He sold coke in college. Trump is proposing death penalty for drug dealers, like in China. Awkward...

[quote]you provide no example nor evidence that any other EO has been issued by an outgoing president to take effect only after his term ended. Good to know, bro.

r115 Wtf? Are you deficient in some way? I literally posted a .gov link that shows you the EO that was originally scheduled to go into effect after Trump was already out (Jan. 22, 2021). It eventually did go into effect July 2021 but was never implemented. So, that there is an example of an outgoing president's EO going into effect after his term ended.

[quote]You proved my point by enumerating the reasons the EO had to be delayed and eventually scrapped for [bold]the legislation that the Democrats passed to limit the out-of-pocket costs for Insulin.[/bold]

Yeah, being in a cult clearly eviscerates one's ability to think critically and properly analyze facts presented directly to their face. Baby, Biden did not scrap the portion of the rule that limited the out-of-pocket cost for insulin when it went into effect in July of 2021. That implementation remained in effect. What was scrapped was the portion that would've required more administrative work at federally funded heath centers. There was even a fact-check about this when, wait for it, REPUBLICANS, were trying to claim that Biden scrapped the portion of the EO that capped insulin at $35 (see below).

You are also purposefully (or blindly?) misrepresented what I said. I made it clear that both Trump and Biden essentially worked together on the insulin price cap and that Biden expanded it so it covered more seniors on Medicare.

I then made it clear in another post that the overall out-of-pocket cost with the cap is not that big of a savings because the average annual out-of-pocket cost of insulin for seniors on Medicare was $452/year. That's roughly $37/mo. The $35 price cap which, again, was indeed in the EO Trump signed and never scrapped by Biden but expanded upon, only saves these people about $2/mo. Therefore, either party and its supporters trying to claim this as a victory is silly. You're all silly. You also see and interpret facts how YOU want to because that's what "partisan-cult brain" does to a person, I guess.

Pussy!

[quote] Mr. I Hate Big Pharma has stock in Pfizer

That’s Trump, not RFK.

This is OT, but even $35 is too much money for a medicine that costs around $4 to make. It should be no more than $15. I take a thyroid pill and statin and they cost me about $8 each.

Self stable pills and liquids that have to be kept refrigerated don’t have comparable shipping and storage costs.

This man should be in a mental hopspital.