Why are mothers closer to their daughters than their sons?

Fuck off OP. Why would gay guys want to discuss this? Dumbest thread ever.

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They're not.

I actually do not know a single mother who has both a son and a daughter and is closer to the daughter.

R1 Because lots of gay men have issues with their mothers.

"Why are mothers closer to their daughters than their sons?"

Because straight you is so stupid.

Mother's are much closer to their son's than daughters. I think it's the closest familial relationship. Mother's are closer to children in general, than Father's for obvious reasons. And mother's are closer to sons than daughters because at some point the son never reminds the mother of their younger selves, who they used to be. OP don't take that "hanging out together" as a demonstration of closeness. A lot of that time is spent by the mother molding the daughter, pressuring the daughter, trying to get her to do things that are more the mother than the daughter. A lot of mother and daughter relationships are just the mother trying to get a second chance at a better life.

Oh, DEAR r6

Well r7, if you are going to ask such general questions you are going to get general answers. And that is the common trope.

I don't think you can generalize this. Moms are closer to their children overall but they are more likely to be attached to the child who is more needy and vulnerable. In the case of single mothers, this often is the son because the sons desire a fatherly bond in order to understand masculinity, mothers in tis case need to keep tabs on their sons because of fear they'll be negatively influenced by older male peers.

Growing up, I hated my mother and she hated me for as long as I can remember. Seriously. As an adult, there were long stretches of time (years, in fact) when she wouldn't speak to me at all. And it's not because I'm female; I have two younger sisters, and the youngest is her favorite.

OP, just admit it -- you have no idea what you're talking about.

R8, that's NOT why R7 'oh, deared' you.

Plenty of fathers don't want daughters and favor their sons (it can be cultural if you look at Hispanic, Middle Eastern, Indian and Chinese households). But fathers usually are bit more passive in their parenting style and much more honest about who they favor (they're quicker to disown a kid for instance). But I also do find many fathers who say they love their children equally are more genuine about it and that may be due to the fact they are less around their kids and don't see as much of their negative quirks as the mothers do. Mothers will be the ones to "I have no favorites and I love you all equally" but not really mean it. Both men and women can be awful parents in different ways.

Old saying I heard once: A son is your son til he takes a wife, but a daughter’s your daughter for the rest of your life. I think mothers and daughters butt heads more, but that may be a sign of being closer.

You gotta treat both parents equally!

In my estimation, mothers are more likely to have adversarial relationships with their daughters while also respecting them deeply, which creates a lot of friction, and they have more protective relationships with their sons, who they see as less complex than women and needing a strong woman on their side—or something to that effect.

This was the case with my mother, but I've noticed the same in the cases of most other people.

My two closest work friends are older women, ages 69 and 63, and this applies to both of them. They seem to admire and in a way have a lot more respect for their daughters, but that's the foundation of their relationship that is often hidden by what comes across as harsh judgment of their daughters. Getting to know these mothers so well for over a decade, I have learned that they project/transfer themselves onto their daughters and they are extremely alarmed and disappointed when their daughters break expectations, but that's overall because they have enormously high expectations for them. Meanwhile, they see their sons as sort of pure in the sense that they think their minds are not sophisticated, and so they feel protective of them. In a way, I feel like they have much higher expectations of and greater respect for their daughters because they feel their daughters are more fully equipped, while they appear to love their sons more because they dote on them and are easily impressed by any simple thing they accomplish. But I think they ultimately think more highly of their daughters' natures.

My sister and my mom fought a lot. My mom and I argued a lot. My mom and I both enjoyed arguing with one another, and I took her jabs as invitations to jab back and sharpen our rhetorical blades. My sister took every jab to heart and confessed to me after our mom died that she thought for a long time of herself as the victim of verbal and emotional abuse by our mother, which absolutely floored me. In the five years that have passed, my sister has continually told my dad, her husband and me that she understands our mother more and more all the time and she can't believe how it seems like "she knew everything and I never realized it!" I think my mom saw my sister as extraordinarily strong in all ways, as my mother was, and she spoke to her as a strong person trying to break through her strong will so she would let messages in and it often backfired. Meanwhile, I always saw my mother as strong and strong willed and I took opportunities to engage with her to better myself.

A daughter is a daughter for all of her life, a son is a son until he takes him a wife.

It depends on how attractive the child is. Parents favor attractive children. No one likes an uggo, especially an uggo you've made.

The Albert Brooks film Mother is a great exploration of the mother-son relationship.

Because only women know how weak women are under all the girl power bravado.

As a rule, straight males and straight females have very little in common.

If fucking is not involved, they lose interest in each other.

You would think that having a pussy would bond women the same way having a dick bonds men, but this couldn't be further from the truth. Both parents always prefer sons to daughters. We live in a male dominated culture. Men are always gonna be more desirable than women for virtually everything. Besides that, most women grow up to be bitches... who would know this better than another woman? Wouldn't you be a bitch if you had to bleed and go crazy once a month until you get old. And then when that ends you basically turn into a man!

Mothers will often keep their daughters close to them on a frenemies tip just so they can keep track of them and keep them from doing dumb shit, but they prefer to hang out with their sons. Guys are way cooler and more useful in doing shit for them. But the interest is one-sided. In reality no man wants to hang out with a woman any longer than necessary... Straight guys hang with women to the extent that is in necessary to have sex with them. Once that's done they are going to look for some bros to hang with. Even gay sons are ready to move on after they've given mom a make over and rearranged all the furniture in her condo....

Daughters are a Mother's default.

[quote]Besides that, most women grow up to be bitches

r21 sounds lovely.

Mothers also keep their daughters close because they know that when they get old daughters are a lot more likely to be there and take care of them than sons.

This thread is peak frau

WTF are you doing, hanging out on a website called "Mumsnet", OP?

[quote]Besides that, most women grow up to be bitches... who would know this better than another woman? Wouldn't you be a bitch if you had to bleed and go crazy once a month until you get old. And then when that ends you basically turn into a man!

Keep comin' back, R21 -- you're in the right place.

I am sure my mom is thoroughly relieved she had two sons.

As someone said once when having a son vs. a daughter - when you have a son you only have to worry about him growing up. When you have a daughter you have to worry about everyone else's son.

r27 Don't think that's very realistic. Sons tend to come probably more after the genes of the mother, whilst daughters tend to come after the genes of the father, so that also would make a point for mothers being more connected to their sons, if true.

Gay guys discussing mothering.

Work it out, OP. It seems to be something personal.

Because your assumptions are wrong and your conclusions spurious.

Look it up.

Daughters and gay sons are close to their mothers?

R28 Why are sons more similar to their mother than daughters? They have the same genes.

I loved my daughter to death.

fraus: my mother was a narcissist

fraus: they always blame the mother

R28 Mammalian offspring in general takes after the father.

I've never heard of this. Most mothers favor their sons