I finally get Madonna…

The part in les Mis that goes like this:

There was a time when men were kind When their voices were soft And their words inviting There was a time when love was blind And the world was a song And the song was exciting There was a time Then it all went wrong

Does anybody know if she is singing of going from a young woman to an older women?

You are delusional. Almost as delusional as Madonna? No. Not that delusional.

Madonna is so ahead of us all. I want to go out with leather gloves on and a bustier.

I think she should put out another album.

She is not ahead or revolutionary. In fact, she is profoundly timid. To be truly bold today would be to accept ones aging face and body… to accept oneself as no longer a viable sexual creature and move into a more enlightened place of grace and widsom.

Instead, she has manifested her own internalized ageism and sexism and is fighting authenticity with every fiber of her being.

She is a tacky, stupid bitch.

that’s what everybody wants her to do. I’m not saying she is for everybody but I get her message and what she is doing is in fact revolutionary. Its a stand against the status quo.

It’s saying that she doesn’t want to be tucked away in a nursing home. She is saying it for the people who can’t say it.

She is showing the rest of us we can resist that in other ways, maybe without the bejeweled grill. But we don’t have to accept being put out to pasture at a certain age.

She’s the anti-baby Jane. She is doing this from a place of power and prestige. She is not doing this from a place of desperation. She is doing this FOR baby Jane (Betty D.).

I don’t see this as a personality disorder. It’s holding a mirror up to society as all punk rockers do.

Funny how Madonna's rebellion always must include being sexually appealing to very young people. If she was really confident, she truly wouldn't care if anyone wants to fuck her anymore.

OP Your meds are in the fridge next to Madge's. Please make sure you both take them.

OP = Madonna!

I'll have what OP's having.

Ya bunch of haters.

No, OP. It's pathetic.

The problem is she is trying to appeal to the 20 year olds. Have you ever seen her with a partner her own age? Usually, her bfs are still in their 20s and they're most likely there for her fame, wealth and lifestyle. Her psyche is stuck and has not grown but remains at her former glory in the 90s. She peaked a long time ago and it's about time to accept it and get on with life. Doesn't she realize her own mortality? You can't take it with you when you're gone. She needs to face aging gracefully and stay off of social media. Why can't she just sit back and enjoy her life instead of trying to do the same rebellious thing she did in the 90s?

[quote]Its a stand against the status quo….It’s saying that she doesn’t want to be tucked away in a nursing home. She is saying it for the people who can’t say it.

For women of wealth, fighting the ravages of aging with bad plastic surgery [bold]is[/bold] the status quo. Trying to hold on to your youth because you’re afraid of getting old (and dying) is something we all do for a time in our lives if we’re lucky to live that long. It’s just that for some of us that time of desperation is more pathetic and lasts longer than for others.

It’s such a fine line between genius and moronic.

She's not punk, she's just not coping particularly well with aging, like so many before her. However, in true Madonna fashion, she's doing it spectacularly.

This is how classy women age. Interview with Charlotte Rampling, who refuses to get plastic surgery. Also some interesting insight into the sexism in Hollywood.

Eh.

She's just a drunk, pill popping mess who can't cope with the reality of aging.

Narcissists do not age well.

M A D O N N A

Madonna is to Gen Z what Rod Stewart was to Generation X- a relic from a bygone time who your parents might dress as for a costume party.

Meh. I loved Madonna’s music. What would be revolutionary would have been for the old broad to reinvent herself as a legend trying something new. Her music, look and behavior never changes.

Give us a Grand Dame. Try something other than a plastic hooch turning out dance music.

I forgot to add one more tip for Madonna. Have a sense of humor about yourself. She is the most humorless person.

Queen of Rock and Roll? Bitch, please!

OP you make up a lot of stupid threads. I hope your life becomes less desperate.

Her incessant instagram posts reminds me of the 'drunk girl at a party' character on Family Guy.

Madonna is too insecure yet egotistical to be revolutionary. She is clinging to long lost youth and sex appeal in a desperate attempt to remain relevant. That shows weakness, not strength. She does not have the courage to age with grace.

Op is another boring Madonna stan

Madonna stans are beyond embarrassing. Middle aged men coming to the defence of some grifter who pretended she gave a shit about anyone other than herself.

She treats people like dirt, has poached off better talent and hasn't done a thing of any interest in well over a decade, if not longer. But yeah, go ahead and claim her to be something she's not.

Nice try OP. I would suggest Madonna is more afraid of and unaccepting of aging than almost anyone. Isn’t it kind of obvious, the physical changes, the clothes. I’m older than her and trust me- I know some people think I’m a goner and irrelevant. But most don’t and for the most part I’m grateful to be healthy and still having a good time. I don’t care what people who don’t know me think. Does Madonna appear in any of her Instagram post anything but angry? Does she smile or laugh (at herself). Never.

You can stop posting about her already.

Check yourself into an institution.

Madonna sadly reminds me of an aging prostitute who has no other means of income. She aged out of her profession long ago but is forced to still play the game that she can longer win and doesn't belong in anymore. She is no longer sexually attractive or desirable but she aggressively and pathetically pretends otherwise, fooling no one except herself. Just a very sad ending.

But she does have 'bank'. It's the attention she can't live without, not the money.

R31- Yes, like a junkie desperate for a fix and there is never enough for very long so she has to constantly seek more. I have often wondered if she has ever been truly happy.

Punk rock is not as oversexualised. Filtering your images until you conform with a caricature of a sex doll is does not seem very punk rock to me.

No way I'd be rich and have a saggy bloodhound face. I'd have it all sucked, cut and tucked.

She can be as sexual as she wants. Helen Mirren (among others) has managed to grow into an age-appropriate public sexuality. Madonna still fails to grasp the distinction between embodying one's sexuality as a public figure, and performing a predatory sexuality divorced from any other discernable humanity. Ageism is a reality. This isn't that.

[quote]I finally get Madonna

Then could you please take her somewhere?

R16 Charlotte gave a lot of non answers in that. Partly because English isn't her first language anymore but also because those old actress broads can't pretend or even fathom not fucking for roles.

It's so bizarre that acting is one of those careers where you have to engage in sex and swap bodily fluids with someone you don't like or aren't attracted to, in order to get a job. Why is it so normal in show business?

She's been a Fall Risk for a while now

It's obvious she's doing what she can to get attention. Í just can't fathom needing that much attention. I don't get it.

Was it only 10 years ago when she made a surprise appearance at a Drake concert, started making out with him and he was wiping his mouth out with disgust. She should have gotten the message then.

I don't want to F* her. I just want to age her.

Grace Slick’s sentiments on aging pop stars:

“I don’t like old people on a rock n’ roll stage. I think they look pathetic, me included. You can do any number of things in the music business aside from trying to look like you’re 25. To me it’s embarrassing.”