The great The Crown miscast
The casting is so bad I wondered someone did it on purpose. The reviews were terrible so i was actually expecting something awful, but it is as good as before, only with awful casting:
Imelda Stanton: as someone said in another thread , she could’ve played the queen mother. Or the queen’s maid. She is terribly wrong in this. Hellen Mirren should’ve played her.
Jonathan Pryce: another great actor, but so wrong as well. Charles Dance should’ve been cast.
Lesley Manville: here they aren’t even trying anymore. I like Lesley but she looks or acts nothing like Margaret. She looks better and more elegant that the old manicurist.
The Queen Mother: they are using a balding, thin, chav. This is pure trolling.
Dominic West: looks or acts nothing like Charles. But in this case i have no alternative suggestions….
The one that is good is Diana. Has the voice and posture down to pat. Very good acting.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 7, 2022 7:11 PM
|
Manville looks more like Margaret than Vanessa Kirby did
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 4, 2022 7:02 PM
|
I don't get people who slobber over the casting in the first couple seasons but shit on the later seasons
Matt Smith looks nothing like Prince Philip
Vanessa Kirby look nothing like Princess Margaret
Claire Foy look nothing like the queen
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 4, 2022 7:04 PM
|
Totally agree. Debicki is good as Diana but she towers over everyone else at 6'3" and that's kind of distracting as well.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 4, 2022 7:05 PM
|
They shoot around Debicki's height exceptionally well most of the time. It's only really noticeable in a couple of shots.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 4, 2022 7:07 PM
|
I watched season 4 recently and I much prefer the casting of Charles/Diana in this season. I think the actress who played Diana in season 4 did a much better job and looked much more like her than season 5. I am assuming she was in her early 20's, perhaps not growing up during the Diana frenzy and aftermath allowed her to more easily inhabit the character without the burden of hindsight. I felt Debecki was impersonating and her body was distracting. Charles was also terrible compared to Josh O' Conner.
Apparently Emma Corin is in a new Netflix movie that is getting really good reviews called, "Lady Chatterly's Lover" and it is supposed very explicit sexually with full male/female frontal nudity.
I was thinking about this, but I wonder what it is about lesbians that seem to really nail Diana. Kristen Stewart was not my favorite but she got an Oscar nom and Corrin won almost every award, except the Emmy, which was was nominated.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 4, 2022 7:08 PM
|
This series was the absolute worst so far. A soap opera with unconvincing actors cast in the roles. It was like some Lifetime movie.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 4, 2022 7:09 PM
|
I love Elizabeth Debicki. She’s beautiful, a good actress, and from what I’ve seen (don’t know her personally) she’s very funny and “real” irl.
But she’s terrible as Diana. She does such a broad caricature, with the hang dog look, the constant down turned head peering upward. And she’s just vastly too tall to be Di — Di had a good stature but she wasn’t nine feet tall.
The one that kills me is West as Charles. I’ll never see him as anyone other than McNulty.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 4, 2022 7:09 PM
|
Is Debicki the one who wears that black drop dead dress as if she were a wire hanger? No way should she have been wearing that. Diana was sensational in it. She looks not good at all.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 4, 2022 7:25 PM
|
Other than the so-so casting I think Season 5 is a terrifically written soap. I can't wait for the second part.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 4, 2022 7:29 PM
|
Why did this need its own thread when there are already plenty of threads on this season of The Crown?
Are your opinions so important they must be highlighted with your own thread, OP?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 4, 2022 7:30 PM
|
I do agree. The show isn't any worse in terms of writing/production, but you notice the difference actors make. This season doesn't have actors who bring the same magic to the screen that earlier iterations had.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 4, 2022 7:34 PM
|
I think in previous seasons the acting overcame the living characters. This season is from a time most of us remember the living persons, so it is harder. I just watched episode 4 of this season which has great, moving, acting, from Lesley Manville. The thing is she is not at all believable as Princess Margaret, nor Imelda (also good in their scenes) as the Queen. As saiid, i am enjoying much more than I thought.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 4, 2022 11:40 PM
|
I thought Dominic West was the big miscast.
Charles has always been super angsty and introspective, there's a lot going on below the surface with him, so much that it's practically visible.
Josh O'Connor did a great job of bringing that out.
West looks as if he's never had a deep thought in his life and is much, much better looking too-- why did they not at least give him prosthetic Dumbo ears and giant horsey teeth?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 6, 2022 11:06 PM
|
The worst casting was Matt Smith in S1. I can't stand that ferret boy. Any recast is an improvement.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 6, 2022 11:45 PM
|
Agree with R13 - West is constantly smiling and laughing and Charles is a man that lives completely in his head. The scene with him breakdancing was ridiculous. West made him look rather cool when the real Charles is a geek to the core. We couldn’t even watch the whole season. Painful
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 6, 2022 11:53 PM
|
The most mortifying thing about the real Charles is when he attempts with all his might not to be a geek. That's when your geekdom is at its most appalling. He never learned that.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 7, 2022 2:40 AM
|
Agree with all of the above re Charles, but who whould you have cast?
I think the actress doing Camilla is also good and an improvement on the last one. But that hairdo is already half work done.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 7, 2022 10:15 AM
|
S3 was tough as the actors got used to their roles and then S4 was better, so I hope S6 is better.
I didn't think of anyone as deeply "miscast" although West is too handsome by far to play Dumbo Ears Charles.
I didn't like Imelda as QEII in early episodes. She was moving and reacting in ways that were too animated for ol' Liz. But she settled in as time went on.
I agree, Manville is a better followup to Kirby than HBC was.
Debicki was OK - she certainly had the look. I think this season was about painting Diana's vapidity and need for attention so perhaps a shallow portrayal was the desired result?
I didn't remember John Major at all but fuck, with Jonny Lee Miller portraying him I want Jonny's John to sit on my face, like yesterday.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 7, 2022 7:11 PM
|