What movies should Elizabeth Taylor had been in that she wasn't?

[QUOTE]had been in

I'll let that slide, OP.

But I could have been a total bitch about it.

Trog

The Color Purple

Westworld

free Willy

Moby Dick

Namu, the Killer Whale

Whale Rider

She wanted to be in JAWS (as the 1st woman who is attacked ), but Spielberg felt that the audience would not believe the shark would still be hungry in the rest of the picture.

She had such a lovely sense of humor I wish she'd played in more comedies.

She and Burton were supposed to make : The Englishman who Went up a Hill but Came down a Mountain

Heavyweights

Big Momma's house

She was so fat! She would have been perfect in the title role in "The Blob"!

she was injured during her wardrobe test for THE PRIME OF MISS BRODIE. She was just supposed to stand in front of the school in her yellow dress, but all the 26 schoolgirls tried to board her.

She and Montgomery Clift wanted to do a comedy together. It was "The Owl and the Pussy Cat." It would've been wonderful.

R1, I used the proper grammar

I always felt that it was a tragedy that she didn't get Cassie in A Chorus Line.

the pumpkin eater

The Wiz.

Babette's feast

Chef

eat drink man woman

Deep Throat

La grande bouffe

Nell

Forty Carats instead of the wildly glamorous and laugh riot Liv Ullman. It would have been the perfect vehicle for Liz.

Poor cow

Basic Instinct

eat, pray, love

Orca, as the killer whale.

[quote]It would have been the perfect vehicle for Liz.

Particularly because she was 40 and Liv was 35, r27.

Is it true that she wanted Audrey Hepburn's role in My Fair Lady?

[QUOTE]I used the proper grammar

I don't think so.

R33 I don’t know, but I could see it.

What about “Hello, Dolly” or “Mame”?

The Glass Menagerie. She would've made an interesting Amanda Wingfield.

R36. Excellent idea. She should have played Amanda on stage after Little Foxes where she gave a truly memorable performance (at least for me).

Hairspray (playing Divine's role.)

Is it true that Elizabeth was supposed to play the little girl in Gone With The Wind?

Butterfield 8 was her favorite

I had a fucking name, R39

Gladiator!!

This Property Is Condemned

Pink Flamingos

i watched Ash Wednesday the other night, quite hilariously bad. Richard Burton famously didn’t want her to do the film but i wonder what her take on it was? it’s not as if he had good taste in roles.

Liz' approach was: Show me the money and I'll do it.

Hello Dolly

R47 "....charming social introductions, expert mandolin instructions...." I can hear it.

Jesus, isn't being stuck with her Desiree bad enough?

Elizabeth Taylor didn't accept roles. Her good taste was in paychecks. There's no part she should have played because she played nothing very well. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf is so hard to understand how she managed it. Yes the part was close to home but she was only 33 years old and not all the way gone then. She ACTED. Must have been a golden time in her marriage and career. She WAS good. Very good and different. Mike Nichols might have been a genius. but I suspect that Burton coached her and she went for broke. It's for sure Burton's best film work. The showstopping part is Martha. Elizabeth could have played other cruel monsters. Without the prestige production. But that was too close to her own life. That weird movie she did with Warren Beatty is kind of interesting. Where she looks like a 50 year old showgirl at 38. Only Game in Town? God gave her a face to launch ships. As long as she didn't speak. Or move.

Anyway - get a LOOK at the SIZE of Audrey Hepburn's FEET. Think of the parts she might have played!!

She would have been really fun in something like 40 Carats or Mame. This guy's website seems more reliable than notstarring for missed roles. Of these, I think I can easily see La Liz in Irma La Douce and What a Way To Go. Myra Breckenridge would have BONKERS. Would love to see her and Monty in The Owl and the Pussycat.

She was a great actress when she was pushed. Her problem was laziness and indulgence.

Director Frank Capra wanted Elizabeth Taylor and Cary Grant for "Roman Holiday," but Paramount said "No." Capra sold the film rights to William Wyler, who wanted an "anti-Italian" actress, meaning someone who wasn't curvy like Silvana Mangano, Gina Lollobrigida or Sophia Loren. He found her in Audrey Hepburn.

A role that Liz coveted was Maria Vargas in "The Barefoot Contessa," which went to fellow MGM colleague, Ava Gardner, on loan to Figaro/UA.

Terms of Endearment between Jennifer Jones giving up the rights and Shirley taking the role.

R51, thank u for that link...very informative !

[italic]Deep Throat

I really wish Elizabeth would have filmed a movie in early 1957. I think she looked her best then and it's a shame that great look was not preserved on film and wasted.

Anyone know why she didn't make a movie that year?

Billy Rose's Jumbo

[quote] Is it true that Elizabeth was supposed to play the little girl in Gone With The Wind?

True. They tested her, but instead of flying over the fence, she crushed the poor poney, and that was the end of it. Same reason why she lost ROMAN HOLIDAY to Hepburn. When she climbed on that vespa, the thing collapsed. Why did you think it took a giant sphinx and 12 nubien slaves to carry her through the arch in Cleopatra ?

She was offered a part in TITANIC, (the boat) , but Cameron couldn't meet her price. Same with THE LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT. (as the house)

I was up for that role in Titanic too.

Cleopatra Jones.

Did she ever do a film noir?

Anyone know why she didn't?

I wish she would have.

Enough with body shaming jokes. Shame on all of you. ENOUGH !!

[quote]Did she ever do a film noir?

She was on Here's Lucy.

These joke replies are not funny at all.

I only want serious replies.

R62, that genre was mostly played out by the late fifties. There were still low-budget noirs, but Liz wasn’t a low-budget kind of star.

You can't always get what you want, r65/OP.

Belle Rosen in THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE.

[quote]I only want serious replies.

NOW a warning?

[quote]These joke replies are not funny at all. I only want serious replies.

Is this your first time on DL?

[quote]These joke replies are not funny at all. I only want serious replies.

Sure, Jan.

Laura

R62, MGM churned out some classic film-noirs, e.g. The Postman Always Rings Twice, Lady in the Lake, Undercurrent, etc., but by the 1950s, when Taylor's star was ascendant, her studio, MGM, was run by Dore Schary, whose focus was on lavish technicolor musicals, adventure epics, romantic comedies/dramas, and message movies. The stark cynicism of film noir was banished to 2nd tier B double features or left to the independents to produce.

R73, did any other studios do film noirs in the 1950's?

Louise Schumacher (the Beatrice Straight part) in "Network"

The Sylvia Miles role in "Midnight Cowboy"

Elizabeth I in "Mary, Queen of Scots"

The Lee Grant role in "Shampoo"

R74, Warner Bros. was always up for some gunfire and crime, as were other studios (Allied Artists, etc.), but at MGM Liz was stuck in "Beau Brummell" and "Elephant Walk."

She did a lot of shit movies. Always great to look at, though.

I would have loved to see her as a true villain. And she could have easily done Angela Lansbury's part. How delicious that would have been.

The Manchurian Candidate (1962 film).

The Whale.

I also wish she would have done a Hitchcock film.

Anyone know why she didn't?

Also, did Taylor and Hitchcock ever say anything about each other?

Is it true that Elizabeth and Alain Delon were supposed to be in a movie together?

Hitch wasn't as big on the brunettes...

I'd say "The Fat Whore Homewrecker Gangbang Weekend."

[quote]R80 I also wish she would have done a Hitchcock film. Anyone know why she didn't?

He didn’t like sexy types who “hang their sex round their neck like baubles.”

Even if Liz could have toned it down, he didn’t favor brunettes in general.

Margaret White in Carrie.

People are just throwing out roles for middle aged women. There’s nothing about Liz Taylor that suggests she would be an even competent Margaret White.

Still attractive at 60.

She was a very beautiful woman but I don’t find her at all compelling as an actress.

She was a pretty lousy actress and only once went outside her comfort zone. Within her very small range, she was probably most beautiful and effective in Cat on A Hot Tin Roof and A Place in the Sun. After superstardom and too much sex - she was already a bloating, hardened harlot by 27 years old.

Elizabeth Taylor was famously offered Three Faces of Eve - she read the script and thought it was a comedy. Bitch was dumb.

She might have been suited and GOOD in Kim Novak's part in Picnic or Gloria Grahame in The Big Heat or Hope Lange in Peyton Place. Taylor was still very young in the fifties but not only wanted STARRING roles in which she could hide her short fate legs and whisper/shriek from A to B.

*but ONLY wanted STARRING roles

*hide her short fat legs

Short Fate Legs is the title of her unpublished autobiography.

[quote]I would have loved to see her as a true villain. And she could have easily done Angela Lansbury's part. How delicious that would have been.

She could have done it, but not nearly as well. Lansbury is fucking brilliant in "The Manchurian Candidate." Liz would have been . . . shrewish. And she also would have looked way too young to play Laurence Harvey's mother. Angela was only slightly older than Harvey, but she tended to be cast older than her years. Also, unlike Taylor, she was a real actress.

R89, you are an idiot.

Elizabeth was considered to be the world's most beautiful woman all throughout her 20's (and before)...

She started shooting LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN but sunk the canoe, and they had to replace her with Tierney, bacause the scene didn't work anymore.

poor OP, she's d have had better luck with Natalie Wood. La fat Liz is not well like around here. Wood just filled a 600 reply thread and launched a part II...

The Zapruter film.

[quote] This Property Is Condemned

She should have been in it. When she jumped in the tank that was supposed to be the river, for the skinny dipping scene, all the water went overboard, and Charles Bronson fell flat on his ass. the insurance company demanded she be replaced with Wood

[quote] whisper/shriek from A to B.

Add the odd breath intakes AND.THE.SCREAMING.

Fun fact; you can make a perfect Liz Taylor doll just by putting an apple on a pair of toothpicks

Shelley Winters told how she asked Liz what day it was in their dressing room for A PLACE IN THE SUN. Liz answered she didn't know, Shelley told her to look on the magazine she was holding, and la liz replied, "it's no good, it's yesterday's"

Whats Eating Gilbert Grape.

No one on here will ever be considered the world's most beautiful like Elizabeth was in her day.

Ugly and jealous people on here.

Bonnie And Clyde

[quote]Shelley told her to look on the magazine she was holding

It was a newspaper on the couch.

Liz was a awful actress and just about wrecked every film she was in. She really had a voice made for silent films.

[quote]No one on here will ever be considered the world's most beautiful like Elizabeth was in her day. Ugly and jealous people on here.

Wow, what a trenchant observation. You must be a psychologist or some other mental health professional.

I'm sorry your thread failed, OP, but she was never gonna be one of those timeless stars, like A.Hepburn, .N.Wood or Bacall. Her physique was very much of her era. Fat women are not in vogue anymore, and will likely never be again, at least not before many decades.

[QUOTE]What movies should Elizabeth Taylor had been in that she wasn't?

The Hindenburg

[quote] Liz was a awful actress and just about wrecked every film she was in

she was good when she was the joke in the movie, like in SECRET CEREMONY. And Richard Brooks really knew what to do with her in CAT. (TBH she was both heavily sedated and emotionally charged during the shooting, which probably helped her performance. Every body else around her was awful, too)

Not a movie but she SHOULD have played Alexis' much more beautiful, much younger sister in Dynasty.

[quote]I would have loved to see her as a true villain.

Years ago, somebody posted outtakes of Taylor's stint as Helena Cassadine in General Hospital, and Liz was unbelievably amateurish and played the part like a Disney villain instead of a real flesh and blood person.

[quote]Fat women are not in vogue anymore, and will likely never be again, at least not before many decades.

When we were roommates, Marilyn Monroe and I wore the same size!

[quote]R101 Bonnie And Clyde.

At age 35?

And this was the American New Wave cinema. They didn’t need a middle aged star from the Golden Age of Hollywood extinguishing the freshness.

[quote] r109 Years ago, somebody posted outtakes of Taylor's stint as Helena Cassadine in General Hospital, and Liz was unbelievably amateurish and played the part like a Disney villain instead of a real flesh and blood person.

Plus she didn’t know her lines and Couldn’t pronounce her own character’s last name, requiring take o after take after take.

Basic Instinct

In the Wayne Knight role?

That’s cruel.

La Liz left us with a hot grandson, with dramatic good looks inherited from her and Mike Todd. 36 and unmarried. Well hello there.

Nicki Brand in Videodrome. Serena in Supergirl.

R100 DL is probably the only website nowadays that the majority of posters can even name their favorite Liz Taylor film. We are allowed to have a little bit of cunty fun about a figure we all respect.

[quote]These joke replies are not funny at all. I only want serious replies.

Fair enough, OP. I won't suggest Babe.

Gentlemen Prefer Blondes...Jane Russell's part.

Elizabeth Taylor and Ellen Burstyn were the same age. Liz should've played Ellen's part in "Requiem for a Dream."

Liz could have played Ellen’s part in The Exorcist.

Or the Gena Rowlands part in Gloria.

Steel Magnolias

On Golden Pond

[quote]R121 Liz could have played Ellen’s part in The Exorcist. Or the Gena Rowlands part in Gloria.

Sure. If she could act.

The Biscuit Eater

"The Kate Smith Story"

[quote] Liz could have played Ellen’s part in The Exorcist. Or the Gena Rowlands part in Gloria.

a) we're not talking about the same "Liz" b) you've never seen Elizabeth Taylor in a movie c) you're deaf, and blind, and someone has tried describing her to you, but failed d) you haven't seen Gloria, nor The exorcist, you're just taking a chance with famous parts.

I can't even see her in "the Gena Rowlands part in Gloria" if it's a pastiche directed by Pedro Almodovar

Cleofatra

the chin implant at R115 is aggressive

I think it's very telling that the minute she stopped wearing a corset, her box-office appeal died. her oscar for Virginia Wolf was pure shock value, and then she was a freak show for the camp lover.

[quote] Gentlemen Prefer Blondes...Jane Russell's part.

couldn't have MM and her in the same frame, then. They would have to stay on opposite side of the boat at all time

Evita

Might I suggest...

She could have played the part of Charlton Heston’s alcoholic, over the hill wife in the 1974 movie 🎥 Earthquake.

When does everyone on here think she looked her best?

Home Alone

She looked great as Fred Flintstone.

Rear Window

Big Momma's House

The Prince And The Showgirl

"The Lindsay Lohan Story."

"Eating" by Henry jaglom

"Big"

[quote] I also wish she would have done a Hitchcock film. Anyone know why she didn't? Also, did Taylor and Hitchcock ever say anything about each other?

Hitch wanted to cast her in NORTH BY NORTHWEST, as Mount Rushmore.

"the Paula Deen story"

interesting trivia : ELEPHANT WALK was originally shot with Vivien Leigh, under the title "Desire in Ceylon". Leigh had a nervous breakdown, was replaced with Taylor , and the movie re-titled accordingly. Leigh can still be seen in the scenes where the character rides a horse. They couldn't shoot those with ET. But when the house crumbles under her feet, they could save a lot of $$ in special effects. "One shot Liz" was worth the $ 1million fee.

The China Syndrome

Mommie Dearest

Desperately seeking susan

The Mirror Has Three Chins

Weight Watchers night watch

water for elephants

The Whale

the three chins of Eve

Shallow Hal

Saving Private Ryan

The BIG Chill

Jaws: The Revenge

The BIG lebowsky

[quote] Desperately seeking susan

Found her!

Harriet TUBman

None

Bus Stop

^ as the bus

"Attack of the 500 Pound Woman"

Diary of a Mad Black Woman

Oh, I just loved her—not as an actress but as a person. She was fun, completely unrepentant and unapologetic about her wild life choices and seemed to be truly compassionate and a loyal friend.

She was good in Giant and Virginia Woolfe but I don’t think very good in much else. But who the hell cares! She gave some pep to a dreary world and that’s quite an accomplishment.

But to answer OP’s original question—she should have been in more comedies, but ones where she could play an even more outlandish version of herself—Sally Field’s character in Soapdish.

Rachel Getting Married

I think she was excellent in Giant. No one talks much about her performance in that movie, but she was understated and great.

I also think she does truly underrated work in Reflections in a Golden Eye and X, Y and Zee.

Also Liz was not really fat until the 1970s, she was always curvy with a large chest.

Shelley wasn't fat either until the early 60s, where she switched her look to play frau parts. She had a great body.

Marilyn herself wasn't "plus size" but she was a size 6-8 for most of her career, which would be unspeakable in Hollywood today.

They both looked like actual flesh and blood women rather than the insect childish sticks you see right now.

[quote]I also think she does truly underrated work in Reflections in a Golden Eye and X, Y and Zee.

Both of those movies have lunatic screenplays.

What movie(s) could/should she have filmed in 1957, the only year in her prime that she didn't make a movie?

She looked her best in early 1957.

I Want To Live

R173 Raintree County for which she received her first Oscar nomination was released in 1957 between Giant and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof

R175, Raintree County was filmed in 1956 through.

and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof released in 1958 was filmed in 1957 R176

I was going to suggest age her for the old woman in Titanic, but Liz would never have thrown a diamond necklace into the ocean

She could have had a great last hurrah as Mrs. Lovett in Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd movie.

R177, Cat was filmed in 1958

As Miss Havisham in Great Expectations

My bad R180 it was filmed in the spring of 1958 during the time Mike Todd was killed in the plane crash. But many feel Taylor was at her most gorgeous in Cat and 1959s Suddenly Last Summer.

[quote]She could have had a great last hurrah as Mrs. Lovett in Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd movie.

I can't even begin to imagine how dreadful she would have been in that role. She might have made me appreciate Helena Bonham Carter's whole-lot-of-nothing performance.

Sophie's Choice

I'm going to derail this thread if it's the last thing I do, and I hope it will be a cautionary tale for cunt OP, who can't even speak proper english, and is probably a frau, or anyone who tries to star a thread about that fat swine Taylor

R183, Fuck off.

R185, you're just upset and jealous that Natalie was never considered as beautiful and as famous as Elizabeth.

Natalie had a plain face and the body of a 12 year old boy.

Never once was she considered to be the world's most beautiful woman like Elizabeth was. Show me some proof that she ever was...

R186 types fat.

FYI, R186 has a rockin' bod (and proportionate fingers to boot.)

R187 why pitch women against one another ? Natalie was ethereally beautiful, thin, gracious , talented and mourned and beloved by legions of fans, Elizabeth was short, fat, vulgar and a big ham, largely forgotten except for a few old rancid queens on DL, they both have their place in the pantheon of Hollywood

R190, they were both the same height

But one was the double in width

[quote]R187 Never once was she considered to be the world's most beautiful woman like Elizabeth was. Show me some proof that she ever was...

I think Natalie Wood was a routinely stiff actress, but I remember when I saw “Marjorie Morningstar” I thought she was pretty much perfect looking. Liz Taylor had a beautiful face… but time has cheapened her. And she just seemed short and squat much of the time.

I adore them both. Time has enhanced Natalie's exquisite beauty and her acting at its best is still vibrant, whereas Liz 's image seems stilted and stuck in 50's hell (- short, fat, coiffed matron with pretty make-up) and she 's more of a shriek and shrill MGM breathy performer, but despite the tacky and the bloat, she's still, after all, an Eisenhower era icon.

The Other Side of Aspen

I don't see what was so pretty about Natalie. Her eyes were too big, nose too short and snubbed, lips too thin especially the top one, bland coloring, etc. And yes the body of a 12 year old boy.

And I don't see how her look was modern.

Can someone explain?

Natalie looked her best when she freed herself of all the 1950s to early '60 heavy makeup and teased hair and went for a more natural look, which made her look youthful and modern.

Natalie, styled à la Elizabeth Taylor, aged her.

[quote]I don't see what was so pretty about Natalie. Her eyes were too big, nose too short and snubbed, lips too thin especially the top one, bland coloring, etc. And yes the body of a 12 year old boy. . . . Can someone explain?

What is it you want "explained" to you? If you don't see it, you don't it.

Natalie looked her best in the totally manufactured, red lipped studio era, r197. She was a completely contrived starlet marketed for mass consumption, a porcelain doll throughout all that.

When she went independent later on and styles softened she just looked like your pretty neighbor.

Natalie was very pretty, but I agree she wasn’t some kind of drop dead knockout. Her look was more appealing in an aesthetic sense - most extremely thin women aren’t fuckable to men.

Liz had both outright beauty and a desirable figure, her only downside was being so short it made her seem fat whenever she gained a pound or two.

To put it simply, Natalie was a girl, Liz was a woman.

Stupid thread de-railers.

Fuck off.

All of them

She would have been interesting in the Shelley Winters role in The Poseidon Adventure, or even better in the Jennifer Jones role in The Towering Inferno.

I watched her in Night Watch the other day on TCM and was surprised how much I enjoyed it and Taylor’s performance. It’s a fun popcorn horror flick.

The TV movie she did with Carol Burnett I thought was one of those that’s certainly not a classic but enjoyable.

No way in hell would she come close to topping what Beatrice Straight did in Network. A masterclass in acting and Straight knocked it out of the park in 5 minutes of screen time.

I think of Taylor wanted to act more she would’ve done supporting roles in ensemble movies like Grumpy Old Men. Really the all star disaster movies of the 70s like Airport were made for her.

Liz would’ve been a better fit for the Stella Stevens part R204 in Poseidon. She would’ve been good in Shampoo and her playing Carrie Fishers mother would’ve been brilliant casting.

The Toni Collette role in Hereditary.

"The Hindenburg."

Title role.