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Can Someone Help Me Understand Johnny Guitar?

Why is it a cult classic? Why do Godard and the Cahier du Cinema crowd swoon over it, and why does Joan Crawford come across as a macho diesel dyke lording it over the male cast and reducing them to limp wrist sissies including Sterling Hayden who is the epitome of wooden acting? There’s bi-queer air about it I sense. Am I wrong? Even though Nick Ray was bi, shouldn't the film have benefited from a director like George Cukor or Douglas Sirk? Wasn't Mercedes McCambridge a dyke?

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by Anonymousreply 17September 1, 2022 4:41 AM

The two women are really lestastic and want to lap on each other's ladyhams.

by Anonymousreply 1August 30, 2022 12:56 AM

Johnny Guitar was adapted into a stage musical, which debuted Off-Broadway in 2004, with a book by American television producer Nicholas van Hoogstraten, lyrics by Joel Higgins, and music by Martin Silvestri and Joel Higgins......anyone know anything about this production?

by Anonymousreply 2August 30, 2022 1:00 AM

It’s a thinly veiled commentary on HUAC and McCarthyism. Check out Sterling Hayden’s bio. It’s also a truly subversive (in the best sense of the word) film. To truly appreciate it, research the era.

by Anonymousreply 3August 30, 2022 1:02 AM

I'm going to kill you.

by Anonymousreply 4August 30, 2022 1:04 AM

This, and her blackface number from Torch Song is why we love Joan.

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by Anonymousreply 5August 30, 2022 1:06 AM

So is there some homoerotic undertone that makes it even more subversive in the McCarthy era?

by Anonymousreply 6August 30, 2022 1:06 AM

Movies exist so that scenes like this could be filmed: a mob of cowboys, led by Mercedes McCambridge, storms in to find . . . Joan Crawford in a long white dress, playing the piano with steely determination. It defies explanation or analysis.

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by Anonymousreply 7August 30, 2022 1:14 AM

It could use a little more cow bell.

by Anonymousreply 8August 30, 2022 1:25 AM

This just came out. Have at it OP.

[quote]In 1996, I sat in the fifth row of the Metropolitan Opera as Jessye Norman sang the starring role in Leoš Janáček’s “The Makropulos Case,” and, as she sang a climactic passage, I felt as if I could actually feel my eardrums vibrating with the focussed volume and pure pitch. Nothing else in movies, beside Crawford’s acting in this scene, gives me that same feeling.

One "Oh, dear" for the "foccused." And a big ole "MARY" for the content.

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by Anonymousreply 9August 31, 2022 12:13 PM

It is visually and thematically LURID. It's surreal and hyperbolic. It's color noir western thriller. The French structuralists like it, just as with sick and American film noir, because it works on many levels and is overdetermined. So it has distance from it's plot and characters, though they are gripping enough to hold interest on their own. It's perverse but not vulgar, and the French love perversion.

by Anonymousreply 10August 31, 2022 12:41 PM

just as they like SIRK (spellcheck - not "sick")

by Anonymousreply 11August 31, 2022 12:41 PM

Seems like our Joan hit a double into left field with Johnny Guitar and Torch Song. Wait, I just thought of this. Why Johnny Guitar, the Opera with Jessye Norman

by Anonymousreply 12August 31, 2022 11:26 PM

Jessye Norman died in 2019, r12.

by Anonymousreply 13September 1, 2022 1:03 AM

[quote] Johnny Guitar was adapted into a stage musical, which debuted Off-Broadway in 2004, with a book by American television producer Nicholas van Hoogstraten, lyrics by Joel Higgins, and music by Martin Silvestri and Joel Higgins......anyone know anything about this production?

Wow, the father from Silver Spoons co-wrote it?

This is why I love DL. I learn something new every day.

by Anonymousreply 14September 1, 2022 1:09 AM

And R13 that was a joke

by Anonymousreply 15September 1, 2022 2:15 AM

The movie needed more Turkey.

by Anonymousreply 16September 1, 2022 4:21 AM

Did Joan fuck the guitar?

by Anonymousreply 17September 1, 2022 4:41 AM
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