Why do republicans want to eliminate social security and Medicare in 2023?

Republicans want the USA to be like it was before the Great Depression. It’s their goal. They hate anything that works for the people as a whole.

Hopefully this will push soon to be seniors towards democrats.

Something tells me it won't, r2

r1 "people as a whole', as long as they're in Richard Levine's demographic.

This is such a weird issue to champion.

It’s like they hate anything that is good in the world.

OP, have you been asleep for the past 90 years? The Republicans are against all public programs because they allegedly redistribute wealth from the rich. They supported them for a few decades in the mid-to-late 20th century because they're so widely popular, but then they figured out ways to avoid taking consequences at election time.

The GOP has been trying to get rid of any vestige of the FDR and LBJ administrations when it comes to social safety nets. The only safety net the GOP likes are ones for the wealthiest.

Not that I, a senior, want to dismantle Social Security & Medicare, but what have we done that’s so laudatory, OP? With so very few WWII vets still alive, it’s not like “we” saved the world.

We worked and payed into it and now rethugs want to snatch it away.

Which of their constituents are clamoring to eliminate social security?

Doesn’t seem like they are doing this for there constituents. Who are they doing this for?

The question isn't why the GOP wants to do it, the question is: Why does any elder idiot vote for Republicans *knowing* they want to do it? Are they such bitter, hateful old assholes that they think they're safe from the GOP dismantling their livelihood?

If they take away social security people will starve and many more will be living on the streets in old age.

I'm sure they'll reassure their constituents that they merely want to "privatize" it for their own good

Exactly, R13. They'll claim they're making it stronger.

It's widely agreed that the Bush Jr. presidency started to go south immediately after his second inaugural, when he rolled out grand plans to privatize Social Security that went nowhere because of public outcry. Hurricane Katrina later that year just out another nail in the coffin, along with the war in Iraq dragging on, and the administration was basically dead in the water the rest of the second term.

They want to hurt the poor to help the rich.

Also racists see social security and Medicare and welfare and think “black”, and they get aroused by black people suffering.

r16...

Anyone who votes Republicans is either uber-rich or racist. There’s no logical reason to vote for these treasonous twits.

Comment, r16?

The GOP is the political party for the rich businessmen. Anything that involves taxes, they hate.

This is also the only reason the GOP was against Obamacare.

For the troll at R16, who evidently hasn't been paying attention to the news: Sen. Rick Scott, the Chair of the Republican National Committee, has been pushing a midterms agenda for the Republicans that centrally features a resolution to "sunset" all federal legislation after five years. That means all federal legislation—which of course includes Social Security and Medicare—expires after five years and has to be voted on by Congress for renewal.

And in case you think that just means the Republicans would vote the programs back in again, do a little research on Republican goals (maybe starting with R19's link). This is obviously just a ploy to do away with the social safety nets without directly saying that's what they're doing.

R16, just Google Rick Scott’s 12 point plan

Lindsay Graham has also said Medicare and SS need to go

They’ve always hated these programs and did everything they could to sabotage them.

Link, OP?

Republicans will couch the elimination of SS and Medicare as eliminating benefits to the undeserving and to illegal aliens, and the old, white deplorable MAGAts will eat that shit up and support it wholeheartedly, thinking the browns and blacks will finally be cut off the dole.

Deplorable MAGAts are too stupid to realize Republicans consider them undeserving as well.

You have a link at r19, r27.

Baby Boomer and Gen X Olds will never stop voting against their own interests as long as it's spiteful against the Youngs

Yes, r30. That's what we did while toking up in our dorm rooms back in the '60s and '70s. We couldn't stop talking about how we hoped we lived long enough to screw over future generations. It was what we lived for.

I think it has something to do with Wall Street and wanting old people to their retirement in high risk investments.

Look, we could only convince so many Olds to sacrifice themselves to COVID for Trump Christ and the Economy before the vaccines and theraputics were available so they are FORCING us to do this, ok?! They are FORCING us to starve them. Take their live-saving medicine. Remove their only way to lay for housing and utilities.

They brought it all on themselves by not doing as they were told.

A lot of people said they would never overturn roe that it was just rhetoric but we see how that turn out.

They rethugs will do this as soon as they have the majorities again.

What are you basing this on, with no link? This will never happen because most Republicans are dependent on Social Security and Medicare, or will be soon enough.

I think I figured it out.

There is a reason they are rushing this out again with renewed intensity.

Their billionaire donors want the senior/retiree labor and they want it fast and cheap.

When you take away social security, they all have the rejoin the labor force. Would be retirees will have to work until they die.

It makes perfect sense.

No wonder they have such a detailed plan of action to eliminate social security ready at the helm. Just like when they repealed roe.

R35 there are links provided stop distracting from this thread. This is very important for people to know the republicans are ready to repeal Medicare and SS on day one.

The republicans want their donors to know they are ready to go with the detailed plans that were published while denying that they are going to do it to their constituents just like they did with roe vs wade.

There is a clear pattern here.

You have not provided any relevant link. They mention it every year but it’s always shot down by their own constituents.

They would never! -- R35

Links provided show Republican Representatives saying --over and over -- they will, they want to, please vote for them so they can.

I refuse to believe what they're saying! Reality isn't real! -- R35

R34 do you think it's a coincidence Roe v Wade was overturned once the Boomers and Gen X stopped having children and abortions themselves?

Is r39 a bot?

Earlier this month U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Oshkosh) suggested that Social Security and Medicare should no longer be guaranteed benefits. Instead, he said, they should be up for renegotiation every year when Congress haggles over discretionary budget items. “What we ought to be doing is we ought to turn everything into discretionary spending,” Johnson said, “so it’s all evaluated — so that we can fix problems or fix programs that are broken.”

Those are alarming words for a lot of people who are counting on having those benefits when they retire. And they are especially alarming coming from Johnson, who has previously called Social Security a “Ponzi scheme” and voted in favor of deep cuts to Medicare.