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Trump Threatens Civil War

[QUOTE]“People are so angry at what is taking place,” Trump warned. “Whatever we can do to help—because the temperature has to be brought down in the country. If it isn’t, terrible things are going to happen.”

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by Anonymousreply 250September 4, 2022 6:25 PM

What a colossal asshole.

This is what happens when you let a malignant, immature narcissist get any power.

He needs to be put down like the rabid dog that he is, his family and associates should be locked up forever, and the assholes who voted for shim should never, ever be allowed near a voting machine again.

by Anonymousreply 1August 15, 2022 5:58 PM

Nice country you have there. Terrible if anything were to happen to it.

by Anonymousreply 2August 15, 2022 6:03 PM

Leave it to the fucking NY Post to push Trump's suggestion of a Civil War. They've been bleating for days that the FBI is evil and out to get Trump, and some opinion bitch just wrote a lengthy article in the Post about how Biden hasn't done a single thing in office except "get back" at Trump out of "spite."

Fucking rightwing propaganda filth machine. They're worse than the Daily Mail these days.

by Anonymousreply 3August 15, 2022 6:04 PM

[QUOTE] Leave it to the fucking NY Post to push Trump's suggestion of a Civil War.

It doesn’t require much of a push. The words are right there, clear as day. And it wasn’t a suggestion: it was a threat leveled at the Justice Department and the country as a whole.

by Anonymousreply 4August 15, 2022 6:08 PM

Fuck him and his idiotic followers. LOCK ‘EM ALL UP!

by Anonymousreply 5August 15, 2022 6:10 PM

I guess they can get him for inciting violence over a civil war if they can’t get him for inciting violence over Jan 6.

by Anonymousreply 6August 15, 2022 6:12 PM

Yeah, about that Civil War... I'd really like to help, but my boss won't give me time off and it's my week for the school carpool, but good luck with that 🙄

by Anonymousreply 7August 15, 2022 6:13 PM

@r6, Um, the Civil War would have to happen. J6 happened

by Anonymousreply 8August 15, 2022 6:14 PM

Trump's goons already proved they are capable of a lot, like desecrating the Capitol building. I've read some are now trying to profit from this, seems that blindly following Trump has led to disaster for them all. This kind of thing can't really be buried under the avalanche of shit news we have every day, what they did has huge psychological repercussions as well as physical ones.

by Anonymousreply 9August 15, 2022 6:17 PM

I try not to hate and wish violent ends for people, but this fucking asshole needs taken out and his head put on a spike outside the White House as a warning to other wannabe dictators. I imagine him being filled with insects and snakes, like the Oogie Boogie man in A Nightmare Before Christmas. He makes my skin crawl.

by Anonymousreply 10August 15, 2022 6:18 PM

His followers must be salivating like rabid dogs.

by Anonymousreply 11August 15, 2022 6:18 PM

"Like, I know your cities are shitholes. Terrible. But there are plenty of people who like to fuck shitholes. Sad, but they do. But God Bless the Second Amendment."

by Anonymousreply 12August 15, 2022 6:18 PM

@r10, I like the way you think 🙂

by Anonymousreply 13August 15, 2022 6:19 PM

Wish someone would just stick an apple in this fat 🐷‘s mouth and publicly roast him - literally.

by Anonymousreply 14August 15, 2022 6:20 PM

I’m reluctant to give Hillary credit but she was first to label the, Deplorables.

by Anonymousreply 15August 15, 2022 6:21 PM

Trump is a VERY dangerous man, he proved that some time ago.

by Anonymousreply 16August 15, 2022 6:21 PM

Civil war! I'll hide the meth and grits. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 17August 15, 2022 6:22 PM

This malignant asshole needs to be put down. Brought before a Federal Court for treason. Marched to a wall at the Capitol he willfully desecrated and shot by Marines.

by Anonymousreply 18August 15, 2022 6:23 PM

I'm not sure he has the support he had 2 years ago. Now that his followers saw what happened J6 they're a little reluctant to screw up the rest of their life for him

by Anonymousreply 19August 15, 2022 6:24 PM

Civil war? But I have Into the Woods tickets.

by Anonymousreply 20August 15, 2022 6:24 PM

This thread make me think of a hilarious thread with "letters" from the MAGA civil war

Not to say Trump can't do real damage, because if they really do have the goods on him, he's like a cornered animal and god knows what he'll do. But as far as the MAGA civil war goes, they threaten law enforcement, who inevitably blow their heads off (though the show far more patience than with black motorists) and shoot up the occasional Walmart of elementary school. So how is that different than the way it is now? HIs *soldiers* have been waging war on the rest of America ever since their Dear Leader was banished to FL, so any threats by Trump are fairly empty ones.

by Anonymousreply 21August 15, 2022 6:27 PM

I think this might backfire on him when he realizes people aren't going to die for him. He's going to look pretty foolish when only a 100 wack-a-doodles show up to his Civil War

by Anonymousreply 22August 15, 2022 6:28 PM

Trump reminds me of Moore's documentary, showing how the poor always volunteer to die , and he find some way to dodge the draft. Coward, coward, coward .

by Anonymousreply 23August 15, 2022 6:29 PM

In that quote he says “It must be brought down-anything to help”. It seems like the media wants civil war. Who owns the media? Hmm

by Anonymousreply 24August 15, 2022 6:32 PM

He should be in jail.

by Anonymousreply 25August 15, 2022 6:36 PM

I guess characterizing the FBI search of his home as a hoax, scam, witch hunt, raid, break-in and sneak attack on democracy is Trump's idea of bringing the temperature down.

by Anonymousreply 26August 15, 2022 6:38 PM

Ok, so maybe 10,000 patriots will rise from their La-Z-Boys and storm the government. Ever see that guy run over by a tank in China?

by Anonymousreply 27August 15, 2022 6:44 PM

I believe it.

by Anonymousreply 28August 15, 2022 6:45 PM

He needs to get out of the bubble he is living in....he believes this shit. It's quite unfortunate as we no longer should be the leader of the free world.

And, the is really going to end in tears!!!

by Anonymousreply 29August 15, 2022 6:46 PM

The thing many of you are missing is that, like the election, he doesn't need a majority of followers to do his bidding.

He needs well connected ones, and he's got a lot of them in state legislatures and, possibly, more coming after November's elections.

by Anonymousreply 30August 15, 2022 6:47 PM

Domestic terrorist.

by Anonymousreply 31August 15, 2022 6:49 PM

[quote]...the temperature has to be brought down in the country

Now he's worried about climate change.

by Anonymousreply 32August 15, 2022 6:50 PM

“I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse.”

by Anonymousreply 33August 15, 2022 6:52 PM

[quote] Now he's worried about climate change.

If I were him, I'd be, too - imagine all that methane coming out of his fat ass via farts.

All those farts might be the solution to Europe's current problem with natural gas supply though, so let's ship him off to Europe.

by Anonymousreply 34August 15, 2022 6:55 PM

If the Internet is cut, how long do you suspect it’d be shut off? Whether the government or militia cuts it.

by Anonymousreply 35August 15, 2022 7:24 PM

Deplorables won’t cut the internet, R35. They love porn too much.

by Anonymousreply 36August 15, 2022 8:34 PM

[quote]Civil war? But I have Into the Woods tickets.

Don't worry, the Civil War will yield to Mr. Sondheim.

by Anonymousreply 37August 15, 2022 8:39 PM

[quote]Ok, so maybe 10,000 patriots will rise from their La-Z-Boys and storm the government.

What's going on with Erik Prince?

by Anonymousreply 38August 15, 2022 8:47 PM

The wrong Trump fell down the stairs.

by Anonymousreply 39August 15, 2022 8:50 PM

Not going to happen. No one cares what this fattie thinks anymore.

by Anonymousreply 40August 15, 2022 8:52 PM

He alway needs to think millions of people are sending him love and promising undying devotion. He's a superstar with no talent.

by Anonymousreply 41August 15, 2022 8:52 PM

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by Anonymousreply 42August 15, 2022 8:52 PM

^What if you gave...?

by Anonymousreply 43August 15, 2022 8:53 PM

Well, there you have it: Dump would rather drag the country into a civil war and potentially cause millions to die, rather than admit he LOST the election.

Dump is an insane sociopath.

LOCK HIM UP.

by Anonymousreply 44August 15, 2022 8:59 PM

He's neither making America great again, nor saving it. Fake advertising.

by Anonymousreply 45August 15, 2022 9:03 PM

[quote]Well, there you have it: Dump would rather drag the country into a civil war and potentially cause millions to die, rather than admit he LOST the election.

He doesn't want to go to jail, r45.

by Anonymousreply 46August 15, 2022 9:04 PM

Just how dumb do you have to be to support this lying sack of shit?

by Anonymousreply 47August 15, 2022 9:05 PM

Lock. Him. Up.

by Anonymousreply 48August 15, 2022 9:13 PM

^ This dumb 🙄

"Are Trump supporters too dumb to know they are dumb? Science says, "Probably"

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by Anonymousreply 49August 15, 2022 9:16 PM

All hyperbole aside, LEOs who work for the fed are being put at grave risk.

Trump has a knack for getting his most devoted loons to act on his behalf. He also doesn’t care if people die due to his violent rhetoric or malfeasance. Some Lon shows up to a pizza shop, willing to kill baby eaters, he didn’t care Millions died from CoViD, he didn’t care, J6 claimed the lives of multiple officers and a rioter, he didn’t care. Mike Pence & his family were at high risk for being hurt or even murdered, he didn’t care. Charlottesville, Virginia resulted in multiple people being seriously wounded and claimed the life of Heather Haier, he didn’t care. Kids & infants were separated from their parents and locked up in cages, he didn’t care.

This man cares for NO ONE but himself. And it would be a big mistake to think that he doesn’t understand that this time, he may be going down, which leads me to believe that he will take ANY ONE he can, down with him.

Doesn’t matter if they’re his supporters or law enforcement. A crazed man was shot last week, while attempting to target FBI agents, and Trump is basically cheering his zombies on, and expecting them to cause mayhem on his behalf.

He attracts the most highly disordered devotees.

If he’s not gag ordered, soon, he is going to cause some huge problems in the next few months.

by Anonymousreply 50August 15, 2022 9:41 PM

R49 For me it’s been a toss-up between “oh these are the dumbest human beings on the planet”, and, “oh these monsters are deeply, DEEPLY invested in white supremacy above all else”. The truth is, I think it’s probably both in equal measure. Mixed in with a rather vicious homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 51August 15, 2022 9:42 PM

R50 is right. I seriously doubt he would care if his kids died.

by Anonymousreply 52August 15, 2022 9:51 PM

R52 Perhaps the mother of 3 of his children knew he’d throw them under the bus in a blink of an eye and said or did something to try to protect them. Now she’s buried on a golf course.

by Anonymousreply 53August 15, 2022 10:02 PM

r50

by Anonymousreply 54August 15, 2022 10:06 PM

R53, it looked like one of his very own actually threw him under the bus by alerting the FBI to exactly where and what to find. Even his safe!

by Anonymousreply 55August 15, 2022 10:16 PM

Here is a preview of their "army":

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by Anonymousreply 56August 15, 2022 10:58 PM

Arsonist calling the fire department: It's getting really hot out there. How do you propose we turn it down a notch?

Geezus Fucking Christ!

by Anonymousreply 57August 15, 2022 11:28 PM

[quote]Trump Threatens Civil War

In a non-Bizzaro-World the exact opposite would be true.

by Anonymousreply 58August 16, 2022 10:57 AM
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by Anonymousreply 59August 16, 2022 12:58 PM

^ Interesting article, worth the read. Funny how not one of those Republicans cited entertained the idea that a crime might have been committed and the DOJ was doing it's job. All one can hope for is that the majority of thinking Americans are not buying the bullshit and feel it's even more imperative that getting out the vote is our only chance

by Anonymousreply 60August 16, 2022 1:22 PM

Anarchy and fascism are becoming trendy and popular and seen more and more as acceptable alternatives to the inequities of capitalism, and it's all being broadcast on the internet. Bit by bit.

by Anonymousreply 61August 16, 2022 1:26 PM

Why should I care?

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by Anonymousreply 62August 16, 2022 3:01 PM

The sleazy media is working in conjunction with the corrupt greed maintenance state. Why are they leading us down this path of the "nuclear secrets". I smell funky rotten bullshit. The orange fool is clearly a piece of shit however he is great at dividing the monkeys. Distraction form something else maybe. I think the Media and PTB are constantly coming up with stuff to stir the monkeys up and keep us from focusing on what is really good for ourselves. They love anything that will keep us divided. Why does a "Democracy" even have secrets from the people it is supposed to represent anyway. To protect us from there enemies? All this only serves to keep the sheep at each others throats. The whole thing stinks.

by Anonymousreply 63August 16, 2022 3:30 PM

R63- Genocide. Divide and conquer. Distraction from reality. They have no plans on sharing resources with us filthy masses when the food and water shortages really kick in. That is why all of the 1% are complicit with this.

by Anonymousreply 64August 16, 2022 3:52 PM

R63 I honestly can’t figure out what the hell you’re trying to say.

by Anonymousreply 65August 16, 2022 7:05 PM

Anyone stupid enough to pick up a pebble for that obese, make-up wearing, fucktard is not a person we need in America's workforce, it's military, or it's genepool. There are enough real life and real world problems that we could be solving as a country and a planet, if not for trashy cunts like Anusmouth and his MAGAty followers.

by Anonymousreply 66August 16, 2022 7:16 PM

We have to stop allowing the republican party to be normalized.

by Anonymousreply 67August 16, 2022 7:18 PM

R65 I can understand you confusion your right to be confused. My point though is the whole scenario of stolen secrets and classified nuclear documents it sound like crap. A made for T.V. .show relying on presumptions that a state should have secrets that trump stole them and the FBI is concerned and wants them back. However nothing here is substantiated with any facts.The media is like a dog after meat. trump himself is able to reveal the reason for the warrant nobody is preventing him from it. You gotta step back and ask yourself who is benefitting from all of this. We have real issues people are living in tents wandering on the streets yelling at the sky. Millions of people refuse to work because wages won't get you a decent living. If you do work, you gotta work till you 67 because you can't afford to retire. Climate change is doing terrible damage everywere etc and where are voices for dealing with these things. They're busy generating media soundbites to feed the outrage machine. It is all about political infighting. We need real problems addressed and we just get nothing but court games.

by Anonymousreply 68August 17, 2022 12:49 AM

This piece of shit cannot possibly die fast enough to suit me

by Anonymousreply 69August 17, 2022 12:52 AM

Who do the loons plan to attack to get their Civil War? Random democrats, just anyone or government officials. They're actually pathetic if they weren't so stupid and blood thirsty.

by Anonymousreply 70August 17, 2022 1:04 AM

Buy guns !! Otherwise it’s game over

by Anonymousreply 71August 17, 2022 1:21 AM

That old cunt is on his way out. The feds are finally starting the ball rolling; even his top WH lawyers are testifying. House of cards. It's going to be ugly and there's going to be violence because now he's really desperate. But he's not going to be president again even if he runs. His pathetic cult base will born out, and everyone else in the country will be thoroughly sick of him.

And in a few years, he'll be dead. And it will all be a shitty nightmare we all have to live through. And the cult will dry up. It will die with him, though there will be other Republican cunts who will continue to cause trouble, and of course SCOTUS is fucked for a generation, but Thomas could be dead in 10 years, too.

by Anonymousreply 72August 17, 2022 1:26 AM

His pathetic cult base will burn out

And it will all be a shitty nightmare we all had to live through.

WHY can't we get an edit button? Fuck sake.

by Anonymousreply 73August 17, 2022 1:28 AM

R73, i wish I could share your optimism.

by Anonymousreply 74August 17, 2022 1:30 AM

Will someone please take this guy out already???!!

by Anonymousreply 75August 17, 2022 1:35 AM

These Trump supporters parading around FBI Offices, in full gear, guns, AR-15's why are they not rounded up and arrested.

by Anonymousreply 76August 17, 2022 1:36 AM

R74, he's burning out. And he doesn't have almighty power anymore. And once the legal process starts, he's fucked. It's not optimism so much as pragmatism.

by Anonymousreply 77August 17, 2022 1:37 AM

The only one threatening Civil War is you, OP.

by Anonymousreply 78August 17, 2022 1:39 AM

R78.

by Anonymousreply 79August 17, 2022 1:45 AM

The media, who have normalized and hyped Trump's idiocy for years, will be among the very first casualties if or when the Fascist GOP takes over. If they think nothing much will change they'd be wrong. And oh, BTW, gun owners? Get ready. Because the people who are coming for your guns will be the Neo fascist, corporate police state, not the Dems. Stupid fuckers. They strut around talking smack right now but they will be screaming like "broke dick dogs."

The real danger right now, isn't some massive demonstration. It's soft targets and lunatics with assault weapons.

by Anonymousreply 80August 17, 2022 1:45 AM

Well, R80, when I mentioned violence, I meant domestic terrrorism, which is something we'll have to be prepared for over the course of this year and next year, because of what this cunt will unleash. He's not going to go quietly, but he's going to go. Now is the time they have to get him, and they know it.

by Anonymousreply 81August 17, 2022 1:52 AM

If you want to know what a MAGA "Civil War" would look like, read a plot summary of the fictional White Supremacists fantasy "The Turner Diaries", it's their blueprint.

Domestic terrorism, sabotaging and destroying infrastructures, aimed at destabilization, targeting Government and Law Enforcement, some civilian casualties,, and creating fear.

by Anonymousreply 82August 17, 2022 1:48 PM

Do they cut power at all R82?

by Anonymousreply 83August 17, 2022 1:51 PM

Re: 82:

They sound like a group of Domestic Violence Abusers.

Do it our way, or you'll pay

Love me, or you'll suffer

Do it my way, or I'll make you

Try and leave me for him, and I'll kill you and destroy everything you love

WHAT A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE!

by Anonymousreply 84August 17, 2022 2:05 PM

Yes r83, power grids, bridges, railroads, highways, etc. 2nd phase shit includes assassinations, raiding weapon repositories, commandering jails and hospitals.

What we are seeing now (lone Wolves, shooting up Supermarkets and malls) may lead to two-pronged, coordinated multi-shooter attacks with bombs, arson, etc.

That might seem extreme, but after that 01/06 shit, who knows what these micro-penised lunatics are capable of?

by Anonymousreply 85August 17, 2022 2:49 PM

My pussy is soaking wet! - Kim G.

by Anonymousreply 86August 17, 2022 2:53 PM

In 2024, Trump will lose the popular vote by a landslide. But a SCOTUS decision will allow state legislatures to send whatever electors they please to Washington DC, regardless of the vote total in the state. The GOP currently controls 30 of them, to the Dems 17. Trump will be President.

They will attempt an authoritarian regime based on Viktor Orbán's in Hungary.

The next few years in the United States are going to be absolutely horrible. I almost wish I wasn't here to see it. All engineered by Steve Bannon. The biggest lowlife to ever slither around this earth. I fucking HATE his guts.

by Anonymousreply 87August 17, 2022 3:03 PM

It would similar to the Syrian civil war, R85?

by Anonymousreply 88August 17, 2022 3:49 PM

Let him be arrested, then found dead in his cell, “suicide,” of course.

by Anonymousreply 89August 17, 2022 3:50 PM

[quote]In 2024, Trump will lose the popular vote by a landslide. But a SCOTUS decision will allow state legislatures to send whatever electors they please to Washington DC, regardless of the vote total in the state.

A bipartisan group of senators is trying to prevent this through legislation.

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by Anonymousreply 90August 17, 2022 4:04 PM

Has Trump denounced “agent”?

by Anonymousreply 91August 17, 2022 4:05 PM

[quote]In 2024, Trump will lose the popular vote by a landslide. But a SCOTUS decision will allow state legislatures to send whatever electors they please to Washington DC, regardless of the vote total in the state.

THIS is where deplorables really don't want to go, because they will in fact wake up a sleeping giant if they try to overstep an already ridiculous system that gives them the chance to win with the EC; that in itself is a disgusting system.

Go ahead, Republicans. Try this audacious move and see what happens. There are more of us than you deplorables and if you literally try and steal the election, you're fucked for good.

by Anonymousreply 92August 17, 2022 4:15 PM

We need to make sure we vote out Republican members of state legislatures. What has happened is that the Trump people have taken over the state parties. They also control many state legislatures. So even if the Gov. is a Democrat, the extremist Trumpers in the legislatures are blocking. These people are very aggressive and very intimidating.

Vote Blue for all the state offices! Even if you know nothing. And call your state Democratic Party or visit a Dem campaign office. Find out who's running for the state courts too.. Even if people run for judge on a non partisan ballot you need to know who they are. If they run on a partisan ballot it's easy. Vote Dem.

We have to get rid of them. Root & Stem. Because it is the state legislatures who gerrymand. Who set up the election laws and rules, and suppress the vote. It is the states and state courts who will rule on Abortion. And guns. Gun safety and an assault weapons ban and red flag laws, age restrictions, waiting periods, all mandated by state law. Our schools and what they are allowed to teach, and whether or not books are banned, etc. All flow from state laws. So please spread the word. Do not let them win.

by Anonymousreply 93August 17, 2022 9:07 PM

Richmond radio host & right wing faggot is claiming Civil War is already here thanks to...the Democrats.

[quote]All these people talking about America being on the verge of a Civil War because of Trump?!?! (now that Liz Cheney has been defeated at the ballot box?!?!) but apparently: they didn’t notice the Democrat crazies physically attacking Trump rally attendees and voters with mob assaults, eggs in the face, and physical and verbal abuse over and over in 2017? they didn’t notice the immigrant limousine set on fire and windows smashed and harassment of innocent people (like me and my sister) at the Inauguration of Trump? they didn’t notice the 100 nights of violent rioting by BLM and Antifa Democrats in 2020? they applauded federal bureaucrats for creating and publicly promoting a “resistance” movement WITHIN the government! they ignored and ridiculed the desperate plea to objectively examine the results of the 2020 election to determine if there had been illegality BEFORE certifying wrong perhaps fake tallies but then were absolutely devastated and outraged when a few hundred voters stormed the Capitol! Ummm…. I got news for you… we are already in a Civil War! It’s not rival militias shooting across a battlefield… it’s like every other modern civil war- unconventional and slowly going violent. Leftists created this and escalated it and they WANT it. They want an excuse to crush their opponents. Don’t believe the Democrats when they pretend to lament conflict and violence. They LOVE it as long as the “right” people are being attacked.

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by Anonymousreply 94August 18, 2022 12:25 PM

[quote]Richmond radio host & right wing faggot

Who needs rightwingers when we have this.

by Anonymousreply 95August 18, 2022 12:27 PM

He has the crazies riled up, too...

[quote]Chris Dorsey: The left has become pure evil to anyone that doesn’t go there way This has been happening for a while and getting worse every minute

[quote]Boone Ed Small: We are up to speed now. Anymore raids on a president will tip the scales I believe.

[quote]Sandy McConnell: They are like the mob - and if they get Trump arrested someway, I'm worried he will be killed in jail and they will say he committed suicide. They have done it before.

[quote]Berkley Whitener: She lost because she was more of a democrat than republican. And she hated Trump and was using the office for her hate. Not to do anything for the people. He’s out of office and they continue to go after him. They can’t get past their hate.

[quote]Amy Maraglio Buchinsky: The left is satan himself!! Love your show John! Keep up the great work!! Love you

[quote]Csajack Morgan: They the demoscums HAVE awakened a sleeping GIANT..to quote Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto...their little cannon fodder rioters won't stand a chance if the real American people STAND it will be over done finished in less than 72 hours

[quote]Natalie Palmolive: With luck, Trump will be reelected, and when the ANTIFA terrorists start to riot, he'll call out the military en masse and make'em think that Kent State was a tea dance.

by Anonymousreply 96August 18, 2022 12:29 PM

And yet for all his blather, there have been only a few crazies attacking FBI offices, and one of them killed himself, thankfully.

The January 6 coup failed. Trump is finished. His followers are too dumb to put up any lasting opposition.

He is a dangerous traitorous man, though, and most people are getting sick of him.

by Anonymousreply 97August 18, 2022 12:34 PM

@r96, Always with the projection and big general incidents without any specifics. It will never change, we just have to keep voting Dem and try to contain the hate. Trump could go on national television, confess and beg forgiveness and these loons would say there was a Dem off camera pointing a gun at him. This is why Garland just needs to keep pushing through with his raids and indictments. They'll never believe Trump did anything wrong

by Anonymousreply 98August 18, 2022 12:37 PM

The comments a r96 are fascinating in their madness.

The Left -- "Our goal is to expand voting rights to be a more inclusive democracy."

The Right -- "We'll kill you if you try it."

by Anonymousreply 99August 18, 2022 12:50 PM

If they’re going to do it because of investigations against Trump, Merritt Garland needs to get more search warrants before the midterms. If these people go nuts rioting and committing terrorist acts, let people see what they’re going to do if we don’t vote blue. Force them to show their hand.

by Anonymousreply 100August 18, 2022 12:56 PM

Agree, R100. The comments from his supporters and rightie proponents of a "civil war" (😆) are always a hodge-podge of ludicrous conspiracy theories, historical references that they've mixed up, bastardized quotes, and poor grammar.

The sounds in these losers brains must be a combination of nails on a chalkboard, a colicky baby crying, and a kicked hornets nest.

TOTAL BATSHIT INSANITY.

by Anonymousreply 101August 18, 2022 1:03 PM

The backbone of the so-called Civil War was the Oathkeepers and the Proud Boys. The DoJ is breaking their back as we speak. leaders involved in Jan 6th have been arrested and charged. Some have been convicted and sent to prison with more to come. I am not saying the threat is over or that the problem has been solved. I am saying that these arrests and the exposure and the fact that a lot of their foot soldiers have been demoralized, has weakened the threat. AS I watched the hearings there was a moment when one of them was testifying about how they engineered the mob storming the capitol. And he clearly said that the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys were egging the crowd on and sort of psuhing they towards the capitol. This is how authoritarians stage coups in other countries. Let's say you have a demonstration because people are upset about something...like BLM and George Floyd. and you sprinkle the crowd with agitators who a re violent and aggressive. YOu stir up anger and promote violence and it is very easy to get it on, so you can discredit the BLM people, and you can invite a real crackdown. In Trump's case he wanted to declare martial law but Milley and a few others refused to go along with it.

by Anonymousreply 102August 18, 2022 1:03 PM

trump needs to be brought down permanently. Lock him up!

by Anonymousreply 103August 18, 2022 1:07 PM

Alex Jones Abandons Trump for DeSantis: ‘Way Better Than Trump’ Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones hopped off the Donald Trump train on Wednesday and announced he’d support a presidential run by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) in 2024.

Jones has been one of Trump’s most ardent supporters over the years.

Earlier this month, a jury ruled Jones must pay the family of a Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victim more than $40 million. For years, Jones claimed the shooting was a hoax and said the victims’ families were crisis actors.

Jones said he “pig-headedly supported [Trump] a few years ago, even though I disagreed with his Warp Speed.” The InfoWars host was referring to Trump’s efforts to develop a Covid-19 vaccine in 2020. Jones is strongly against the vaccine.

For his part, DeSantis appointed a surgeon general named Joseph Ladapo, who has made public statements calling into question the vaccine’s effectiveness.

“I thought that we had to keep him in office because of the nightmare scenario if Hillary or Biden got in,” Jones continued. “With that said, I am supporting DeSantis. DeSantis has just gone from being awesome to being unbelievably good. And I don’t just watch a man’s actions, as Christ said. Judge a tree by its fruits. I can also look in his eyes on HD video and I see the real sincerity.”

Jones also stated, “This is what Trump should be like. And I’ve been hammering this point, and he’s doing it now. And we have someone that is better than Trump. Way better than Trump.”

Meow, bitch.

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by Anonymousreply 104August 18, 2022 1:10 PM

No^. Terrible.

by Anonymousreply 105August 18, 2022 1:20 PM

DeSantis or Trump, the result will be the same, the end of democracy.

by Anonymousreply 106August 18, 2022 1:25 PM

I don't know who is worse....trump or DeSantis. Both are very evil in their own way. DeSantis may be worse...he's not as stupid as trump.

by Anonymousreply 107August 18, 2022 1:26 PM

[quote]Csajack Morgan: They the demoscums HAVE awakened a sleeping GIANT..to quote Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto...their little cannon fodder rioters won't stand a chance if the real American people STAND it will be over done finished in less than 72 hours

Why am I not surprised that the Confederacy idolizer would quote a high ranking Axis commander?

These yahoos must really hate America and its principles of equality and fairness.

by Anonymousreply 108August 18, 2022 1:31 PM

R108- I think they just hate. Hate is all that know and feel. They even hate themselves.

by Anonymousreply 109August 18, 2022 1:33 PM

It's bizarre. So many people really hate democracy when, by and large, it's been to their benefit and have enjoyed it. I know this is asked so many times....but WTF has happened to Americans?

by Anonymousreply 110August 18, 2022 1:34 PM

The ignorance is very widespread and it is staggering how it manifests itself. I was reading an article on Facebook about Brittney Griner, and the comments were terrible. But consistent. They hoped she would rot in a Russian Prison because "that's what you g et when you bring drugs into a country. And, "Tell her to take a knee now! She hates America and hates our t roops!"

by Anonymousreply 111August 18, 2022 1:38 PM

John Reid's recently departed father, Jack (a bigwig in VA GOP politics) used to refer to John as "my fag son" or sometimes, "my other daughter."

John's response...dive deeper into the GOP Kool-Aid.

John overheard a family friend tell ole Jack, "I hear that Nancy boy of yours has got him a nigra boyfriend."

Jack just put his head down in shame.

Next morning John was on the radio ranting about Obama, who had been out of office/public eye for quite awhile, and trying to restrain himself from calling him the n-word.

by Anonymousreply 112August 18, 2022 1:40 PM

I watched a movie yesterday, Keeper Of The Flame (1942), with Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn. It could have been written for today....it was so revelant to what is going on now. It's a good movie. It's astounding that, even back in the early 40s, during the fighting of facism, that these ideas still existed in this country....the beacon of democracy.

by Anonymousreply 113August 18, 2022 1:41 PM

R111...I thought Facebook was supposed to crack down on the hateful comments of their forum. The same with Twitter. Social media has ruined this country.

by Anonymousreply 114August 18, 2022 1:47 PM

I have a passion for history, and believe it or not, it is a comfort to me as we're going through all this mess. The way I see it," Democracy is a continually contested ideal. " a phrase I read in a history of political philosophy book back in college. European Countries, Priarily Britain France, Spain Portugal, established trading companies here to exploit the natural resources and the potential. Sugar cane, tobacco, Rice, and God knows what else, spices, furs etc.etc etc. More people came here to escape persecution or to seek opportunity. They took huge tracts of land, established homesteads etc. It wasn't called "Land of oppportunity" for nothing. And the rich and powerful enslaved endentured, exploited the "peasant" class, they brought in slaves, and decimated the Native Americans. That is who we were. We have had to fight and push and raise hell to gain any ground as far as human rights go. And we are still doing it. And it is still going on in Europe. The whole notion of the Rich Lords and their serfs morphs into present day corporations and billionaires trying to control and exploit. And we have to keep pushing back. It'd never resolved and that is true no matter which country you live in. The most successful democracies are the ones where the people are well informed and stay engaged.

by Anonymousreply 115August 18, 2022 1:53 PM

Bunch of MARYs over here. There is no civil war problem.

by Anonymousreply 116August 18, 2022 2:14 PM

Re: R104

Alex "Tub of Guts" Jones wants a pardon and to continue to grift from his hate-filled, low IQ conspiracy theory obsessed moron fans and he knows his chances are better for his wishes to come true with the younger, fat fascist than the older, fat fascist.

I hope the Trump loyalists who think he is a Christ-like figure take him AND DeSatan, down. That would be so, so sweet.

Dems and the few sane Republicans need to duck and cover and let the fat,MAGAt crazies take each other out.

by Anonymousreply 117August 18, 2022 2:47 PM

R117- That would be such sweet, sweet karma. These types always destroy each other in the end.

by Anonymousreply 118August 18, 2022 2:50 PM

The world really would be better off if this goon had a heart attack or stroke.

by Anonymousreply 119August 18, 2022 3:41 PM

R119- A stroke that completely impairs his speech so the loud mouth can't bully or bragg any longer, just grunt like the pig he is.

by Anonymousreply 120August 18, 2022 3:46 PM

No, Mary R116, but there is a domestic terrorist problem.

by Anonymousreply 121August 18, 2022 3:50 PM
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by Anonymousreply 122August 28, 2022 4:30 PM

Can you imagine what the old boys locked in a backroom smoking cigars, Republicans and Democrats, would've come up with for this problem? Back when men still managed other men and NOBODY was under any false illusions about how to get things done and manage a problem or run a country?

by Anonymousreply 123August 28, 2022 4:36 PM

Desperado... why don't you come to your senses... 🎶

by Anonymousreply 124August 28, 2022 4:37 PM

A civil war is his last option since it is obvious the DOJ and the courts are closing in and he's surely losing. Without people warring for him, he's going to jail.

by Anonymousreply 125August 28, 2022 11:36 PM

There won't be a civil war. In the 80s there were a bunch of domestic terrorists that thought they were going to overthrow the gov. The FBI cleaned them out and their leaders were killed. They were in better physical shape than these fat slobs today. It's all a big fantasy to them but then they turn into a bunch of babies when caught as so many did on Jan 6. Like that stupid Viking idiot who couldn't get his organic food in prison and crying about it. The FBI and justice dept. will deal with them.

by Anonymousreply 126August 29, 2022 12:13 AM

R126, is living in a bubble . Times have changed . With new brand of Devotees, all bets are off

by Anonymousreply 127August 29, 2022 12:36 AM

This isn’t the 80s anymore.

by Anonymousreply 128August 29, 2022 12:38 AM

Most Americans are not angry and will be relieved when he finally shuts the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 129August 29, 2022 1:10 AM

He already had his stupid attempt to overthrow the government. How many civil wars does he get?

by Anonymousreply 130August 29, 2022 1:19 AM

In one respect the Insurrection on Jan 6th was a blessing. It exposed the leadership of these militia type groups. They were arrested and charged and some are in jail. The American public also saw how inept they were. Yes they stormed the capitol, but what a rag tag bunch. the only thing they are capable of is vandalism. Many of them felt betrayed by Trump, because he left them hanging. I'm not disputing the fact that some of them will act out, but it'll be fewer of them.Some of them lost jobs and embarrassed themselves. They may skip the rioting this time around.

OTOH, does anyone wonder or know whether Erik Prince was involved in the insurrection? He seems to have disappeared.

by Anonymousreply 131August 29, 2022 3:02 AM

R65 You are a moron who is part of the problem

by Anonymousreply 132August 29, 2022 5:38 AM

He's right. I am really tired of anyone calling for civil war. Many people have actually lost their minds.

I've got one revolver. Five shots for someone else and one for me.

by Anonymousreply 133August 29, 2022 5:42 AM

We will not have a civil war. The military would shut that down in a flash. Civilians don't have the kind of weaponry that the military does. I wouldn't be surprised at some domestic terrorism but we have that already anyway.

by Anonymousreply 134August 29, 2022 5:58 AM

It would take ten percent of the country to start a civil war, said someone.

I don't think the United States is anywhere close to a civil uprising.

It's all furor over social media posts which are completely flaccid.

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by Anonymousreply 135August 29, 2022 6:03 AM

Miss Lindsey threatens war. She some fierce bitch!

by Anonymousreply 136August 29, 2022 8:12 AM

I often think back to the "Shoot Trump First" Troll of yesteryear. Before he was ever in the White House, before he betrayed and defiled our democracy, the Shoot Trump First Troll had him dead to rights.

We ignored his wise advice and look what we got.

The Shoot Trump First Troll, a Datalounge legend!

by Anonymousreply 137August 29, 2022 8:21 AM

[quote]Miss Lindsey threatens war. She some fierce bitch!

How pathetic; a couple of days ago, she was ranting on about releasing the affidavit, which they did in redacted form. Now, this is her new trick: threatening violence.

While I think she's beyond loathsome, it also makes me chuckle that she's so desperate that this (one of) the last cards she has left to play: threatening violence. Any even semi-reasonable arguments are gone. If there was any further proof we needed that she's going down with Trump, here it is

by Anonymousreply 138August 29, 2022 8:59 AM

Only desperate trash threatens violence when they do not get their way. You can not come back from threatening your fellow Americans with violence, because they aren't doing as you're bidding them.

You can not and you should not be allowed to come back from that.

Lindsey lost what was left of his soul when he went all I with Trump.

by Anonymousreply 139August 29, 2022 10:19 AM

Look. The interesting thing about all of this, is the evolving GOP "responses" At first they were blind sided. Then they resorted to " the FBI is overreaching how dare they do this to a former POTUS!" They threw in some "what abouts..." targeting Hillary, then they moved on to Hunter Biden, and now, they threaten to riot. But some how it doesn't seem as if their hearts are in it. It seems pro forma.. I wonder. I know the hard core nut cases will defend Trump to the end. So the Josh Hawleys, Ron Johnsons, etc. will mouth off. But I'm thinking many will back away. It is no accident that Biden gave a fiery speech this weekend that separated the Maga Republicans from "real Republicans." Biden is rallying people and it's working, but the GOP messaging seems to be coalescing around this wholke threat of violence thing. There was a time when I thought Lindsey Graham was sort of mainstream, but of course once he embraced Trump I realized what a craven opportunist he is. But I did expect him to line up with the more establishment members of Congress. I think more and more of them will abandon Trump. If we show up and vote we will be able to route them. I pray we come through!

by Anonymousreply 140August 29, 2022 2:04 PM

There is a LOT of dark money and a lot of billionaires involved in funding the extremist GOP. These people have to be dealt with. Because if they are funding a movement toward Civil War arrest their asses. That includes Mercers, hedgefund billionaires and anyone else who has been recruiting in the name of these Neo fascists.

by Anonymousreply 141August 29, 2022 2:21 PM

The Pritzkers^.

by Anonymousreply 142August 29, 2022 2:22 PM

If we taxed these mofo hedge fund managers as income at the personal rate AND taxes the fucking churches, these sonsofbitches wouldn’t HAVE the billions laying around to fuck the country over.

by Anonymousreply 143August 29, 2022 3:11 PM

I want them investigated charged and convicted so we can do asset forfeiture. YESSSS!

by Anonymousreply 144August 29, 2022 4:16 PM

[quote]Miss Lindsey threatens war. She some fierce bitch!

She's practically quivering in anticipation!

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by Anonymousreply 145August 29, 2022 4:25 PM

Most people are just trying to survive and make a living. Even those who support Trump how many want to go into battle? It takes up so much of your day.

by Anonymousreply 146August 29, 2022 4:35 PM

And it would play havoc with cell phone reception, ain't nobody got time for that.

by Anonymousreply 147August 29, 2022 4:40 PM

Yeah, they shot their load on Jan. 6, and they're not doing it again over a legal warrant.

Call their bluff. Prosecute the cunt, sure we'll get some protests and they will be arrested if they get out of line. Let those dumb sons of bitches bring their tiki torch, pee on the walls, low-rent bullshit to a Federal Courthouse today. They'll all be sitting in the jail, the hospital or the morgue by the end of the day.

Go ahead, cunts, try it again. We see you now.

by Anonymousreply 148August 30, 2022 5:01 AM

Will the ones in the military/retired military risk losing their pensions and benefits over this? The healthcare that they get, as active duty and as veterans? The preferrenal treatment (deserved, IMO) they receive for job placements, discounts for entertainment and travel, the parades? Are enough of them truly willing to smear their branches of service...for a morbidly obses, make-up wearing, whiner who called some of their bravest and boldest "suckers" and "losers" and who left the first batch who "held the line" (🤣😂🤣) rotting in jails and litigation when he could have given them pardons instead of giving them to his wealthy buddies?

I don't think there will be that many, sorry. A few like that traitor Flynn, sure. But they have been watching losers like them FOREVER. Trash like that are not quiet or half as smart as they think they are. They'll do themselves in, just like the first batch.

by Anonymousreply 149August 30, 2022 10:34 AM

What R148 said. Bring it on scumbags; You Will Lose.

by Anonymousreply 150August 30, 2022 11:47 AM

Thank you, R149, and to your last point, they truly aren't as smart as they think they are. Most of the time, these jackasses have tunnel vision.. They remind me of the 4 yr old who closes his eyes and thinks you can't see him. They are so caught up in their own scheming and fears and biases, they overlook what is going on outside their bubble. They overreach. They have no idea they have been exposed and are being observed. And their "movement" is riddled with informers. And they have been underestimating Biden for years. He is a chess player. he is several moves ahead of them, and he truly believes in giving the bad guys enough rope.

by Anonymousreply 151August 30, 2022 11:48 AM

Republicans in disarray!

Some top Republicans acknowledge the growing angst and concern, as it’s become clearer that Trump may have been warehousing some of America’s most sensitive secrets in an unsecured basement — and even refused to turn them over when the National Archives and Justice Department tried to recover them. One top Republican fundraiser asked to describe the mood among donors, said, “There is enormous frustration.”

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by Anonymousreply 152August 30, 2022 1:18 PM

The way I look at it is that I am getting old and I don't really gaf about what happens to me. I am an armed democrat stuck in the hell of the south. I will take down as many of those motherfuckers as possible if they start any shit where I am. We are exhausted and angry as hell. My guns are just as lethal as yours and I have many of them. Plus we are much more intelligent than you are. You will not see my limping white ass coming until it's too late.

by Anonymousreply 153August 30, 2022 1:20 PM

We're turning into a country divided by criminals and non-criminals. By the time people reach 40 they've toted-up so many DUIs, domestic violences, speeding tickets, non-payment of child support, fines and on and on that they have become crippled by their past choices. When they apply for things they are denied.

This is why Trump has become a hero to them. As a fellow criminal, they believe he is their last chance to erase their past. He'll sign the National Expungement Act, or pardon them, or something. Sounds desperate, but they are desperate. They've fucked up their lives and there's no way out. Civil War or 'riot in the streets' is all they have left.

A staggering number still think Trump will roll-up to the White House and force the Bidens out. After all, isn't that what they would do?

by Anonymousreply 154August 30, 2022 1:29 PM

His idiot cult mouth breathers are just waiting for him to give the go.

Why does the douchbag donald have so much influence over these people?

by Anonymousreply 155August 30, 2022 1:42 PM

People used to strive to not get arrested or have a record, R154. They had pride in themselves and (most) avoided things that would get them in trouble. Now, many don't care or they'll even brag about having done time.

There needs to be consequences for Trump's illegalities like there are for regular people. No one learns from being able to break the law and get away with it.

by Anonymousreply 156August 30, 2022 1:44 PM

R154- It is the hope they hold onto, that or his reelection. But what they refuse to acknowledge is that the rest of us will fight to the death for our freedom and democracy if need be. They seriously underestimate us and our determination to fight back.

by Anonymousreply 157August 30, 2022 1:46 PM

Prison has been a lifestyle choice for some for years.

by Anonymousreply 158August 30, 2022 1:46 PM

These fuckers have been preparing for this for years. When George W. Bush allowed the automatic weapons ban to expire in 2004, and the NRA began it's accceleration of promoting guns, giuns, guns. The NRA is a Neo Fascist organization that was given millions of $$$ by Russia. The Russian plans to weaken us, and send us into chaos started years ago. People think KGB Putin is a communist. He isn't. He is an authoritarian, who has always leaned Right. The internet gave our enemies a way to implement Psy Ops against us with very little cost to themselves. A cheaper kind of warfare. They promoted extremist views, promoted anger fear suspicion division, etc. And once the Republicans weaponized their "Low information voters" by turning them into activists, and once the anti semetism and the racism were exploited it was only a matter of time. The Right is spoiling for a complete breakdown of society. Civil War. Problem is it would be a lot easier if Trump was in office. Because Biden won't go for it. Biden won't sit there watching it on TV, baby.

by Anonymousreply 159August 30, 2022 1:53 PM

[quote]Republicans in disarray!

Democrats in array!

by Anonymousreply 160August 30, 2022 1:54 PM

How would this happen? Will Billings, Montana invade Chicago, or something like that?

by Anonymousreply 161August 30, 2022 4:43 PM

I hope there is a civil war between the hard left and hard right. I can’t stand them. They make life miserable. Both are so un-American. They’re awful. Evil.

by Anonymousreply 162August 30, 2022 4:51 PM

[quote]One top Republican fundraiser asked to describe the mood among donors, said, “There is enormous frustration.”

They’re frustrated because why? The GOP is still all in with trump (if the Republican ad campaigns in my blue state are any indication) and his fans don’t care what laws he breaks.

by Anonymousreply 163August 30, 2022 5:44 PM

All I know is I had to get my tire patched the other day. I had two bumper stickers on my wagon's rear window: a "DUMP TRUMP 2020" sticker affixed on the inside of the window. And the blue + yellow gay Equals sticker (=) on the outside of the glass- which disappeared. The tire had a screw driven deep into one of the treads, which probably needed some kind of drill to drive it in there. I had just enough air to get to the air pump at the corner gas station, then on to the tire repair shop.

I've taken out the anti-Trump sticker because I think it's done its job. It's time the courts take over the destruction of Trump; I can't afford it.

by Anonymousreply 164August 30, 2022 7:22 PM

That’s why I don’t put any political stickers on my car. Trump fans are nuts and I can’t afford risking damage.

by Anonymousreply 165August 30, 2022 7:30 PM

Back when I had a Biden sticker on the back of my car (and this was before Trump lost & things got really ugly), I had some asshole mechanic tell me that I had a problem with my tires (there wasn't one) only to have him smirk about "make America great" as I left & some asshole with the usual MAGA bumper stickers swerve at me and try to run me into the ditch (needless to say, I live in a rural area). So the threat is real & my current vehicle doesn't have anything on it. It's all just so overcompensating - like a mass case of Tiny Penis Syndrome

by Anonymousreply 166August 30, 2022 7:34 PM

I can't believe that DL hasn't yet played the game of divvying up the country to determine WHICH states the Maga deplorables will be given as their new homeland after the coming CIVIL WAR II. Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi (of COURSE)...Will we be splitting any states up? Wouldn't we be better off getting rid of most of PA and NY? The rotten core of FL? You get the gist. These losers will HAVE to be accommodated somewhere. Think of the savings tax-wise! But we better be careful, because WHATEVER they get will *certainly* be completely taken over and enslaved by the Chinese within 10 years. There's that to consider...

by Anonymousreply 167August 30, 2022 8:19 PM

Stephanie Grisham said recently that this is all being carefully timed by Donald for the midterms. That he could have handed over the documents any time over the past year and a half, but chose this moment for controversy (and votes?).

by Anonymousreply 168August 30, 2022 11:20 PM

Good! Let him!

Joe Biden can order the military to "shoot to kill the malarkey"!

by Anonymousreply 169August 30, 2022 11:32 PM

I love when he runs around crying about people being angry, He's been using that since the shitshow imperfect phonemail to Georgia. "People are angry about what you did to the president." Never bothers to mention the people that are deliciously enjoying his collapse.

by Anonymousreply 170August 30, 2022 11:37 PM

[quote]I’m reluctant to give Hillary credit but she was first to label the, Deplorables.

Why the fuck are you reluctant? Hillary Clinton was 100% RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING, even before it happened!

by Anonymousreply 171August 30, 2022 11:40 PM

r63 takes the long way around to declare "Both Sides!"

by Anonymousreply 172August 31, 2022 12:00 AM

I think Stephanie Grisham is full of shite on this one. There's no way Trump would have expected the FBI showing up at his house with a search warrant. He has been skating all this time? He believed Merrick Garland...like Biden, is a pussy. If anything, he believed they'd never escalate this so close to an election. If ever. Those were his assumptions. They already subpoenaed him. He thought the DoJ guys and the National Archives were getting along fine, his lawyers signed a document telling the investigators with the subpoena they had all the docs, (they didn't) so I think at the very least Trump thought he bought himself some time.

But now that it has happened, he is desperate to turn it to his advantage. He's been looking at it as political. Not legal. (He just recently polled friends family advisers, to realize he was in real legal jeopardy and he has finally hired a real lawyer. ) Right now he wants two things: He wants to stay politically influential, powerful, stong with his base and with the party. And second, he wants to be able to raise money. As always. Making a stink before the Midterms helps him, puts him in a position to capture the news again, but whether it benefits the Republicans is another story. When McConnell and others in the party criticize the "quality of the candidates" as a liability, they are talking about the Trumpists. Trump is dominating the news again, and his goal is to convince his supporters that the FBI is the enemy. They Federal Government is out to get him. It's all political, and he is a victim. He thinks he can rally the troops.

The GOP was still finding Inflation a useful issue. They student loan forgiveness was making a lot of the GOP and independent voters, who believe people are getting something for nothiing. Anecdotally people believe the reason they can't find good workers and restaurants and small factories are closing is because too many people are getting unlimited unemployment benefits making $900 a week! I actually had a repair man say that to me. He characterized the Dems as always giving away stuff and destroying everything. He worked hard, no one helped him. Blah blah blah. And he worries about inflation. These resentments are easy to exploit. The fact that we have low unemployment doesn't get noticed. The fact that Republican members of Congress got millions of $$ in PPP loans forgiven is ignored. They have their pitch and nothing you say sinks in. But now, here comes Trump changing the subject.

I'll tell you one thing. We do not have the midterms won. Not by a long shot. They are scrubbing abortion from their campaign materials. They are going back to economic issues because inflation is always a concern and so is crime, and housing. And healthcare. That is the ground we have to address. School has started. So Gun safety reform is also on the table. I think Trump's mess can help us, but we need to be smart because we can lose everything in the blink of an eye. The fact isWe have what, 8-10 weeks left? In politics that is a very long time. I think the FBI should arrest him and lay it all on the table so the public understand exactly WTF he did and why it is bad. No way he should ride this out for political advantage.

by Anonymousreply 173August 31, 2022 12:14 AM

r162 feels that the facts on the ground make it exactly the right time for a "both sides" argument!

Moron.

by Anonymousreply 174August 31, 2022 12:33 AM

Trump 's tantrums right now will rally his base and help turn out the vote. That could hurt us. I will be interested to see how polling is impacted by all this bullshit. Polls right taken in the next few days will shed light on it.

by Anonymousreply 175August 31, 2022 12:42 AM

R175, Trump’s tantrums will drive Democratic turn out as well.

by Anonymousreply 176August 31, 2022 12:45 AM

And there are far more real Americans than there are Repugs.

by Anonymousreply 177August 31, 2022 12:47 AM

So many people think that the voters in 2020 who went with Trump did it because they're all racists. But I know a lot of small business owners who believed Joe Biden was going to shut down the economy and destroy their business and voted for the Republicans. We were sitting here upset because everynoe was in danger, people were dying and the government was doing almost nothing, and we didn't realize that a lot of people held their noses to vote for him because of the economy. Not just small business owners but also people who were scared of getting laid off or losing a job. I believe we can reach people like that with a coherent economic argument. But Biden tell you that "unemployment is down to 3%" isn't going to land a punch. If you are worried about your job, and inflation and rent, him telling you things are getting better won't work. Instead Biden needs to focus on plans to address things like lowering prescription drug prices. Or putting rent controls in place, or something. Something concrete, specific, and immediate. Now he is doing a lot of that but we have to bring it home. We have to get oour ads and messaging together and yes, go negative on the GOP. They have a record.Congress is on the ballot not Biden. So focus on that.

by Anonymousreply 178August 31, 2022 1:06 AM

In competitive races Republican candidates are trying to delete references to their past support of Trump and abortion bans.

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by Anonymousreply 179August 31, 2022 1:55 AM

That's why Dem messaging should constantly bring that up.

by Anonymousreply 180August 31, 2022 2:13 AM

R179- That will never be forgotten or forgiven.

by Anonymousreply 181August 31, 2022 2:44 AM

Linsley Graham has walked back his statement about riots. Laurence O Donnell once again Trashed Graham And so did Biden today. Laurence will be on again at 10:00pm pacific time.

by Anonymousreply 182August 31, 2022 3:26 AM

And sort of hinted that Graham was gay and trump was holding that over him.

by Anonymousreply 183August 31, 2022 3:28 AM

Is there anybody who doesn't think he's gay? It has to be something much more damaging.

by Anonymousreply 184August 31, 2022 3:33 AM

You make no sense r178. Trump had NO RECORD OF ANYTHING but Covid disaster! He rode the Obama economy while acting like some genius!

Any Democratic President can save babies and kittens from a fire on live tv and the media and people like you will offer "There's a messaging problem!", and "You know what he SHOULD do?" bromides!

[quote]Trump's tantrums right now will rally his base and help turn out the vote.

Yeah? I think in the next six weeks as the horrifying national security drips from Trump's document thievery become more known, rank and file Republicans will openly distance themselves from Trump and clearly favor DeSantis. This will cause Trump to act like a trapped rat and he will instruct the MAGAts to NOT VOTE at all telling them they'd only be supporting RINOs! I honestly think Trump will attempt to burn it all down in his final act of self-immolation. We shall see.

by Anonymousreply 185August 31, 2022 3:39 AM

Trump fans are fanatics and dangerous

by Anonymousreply 186August 31, 2022 3:42 AM

R185 I hope he burns down the republican completely

by Anonymousreply 187August 31, 2022 3:43 AM

^^^republican party

by Anonymousreply 188August 31, 2022 3:43 AM

Rupert Murdoch needs to be ripped apart by pitbulls.

by Anonymousreply 189August 31, 2022 3:51 AM

R189 I love my pit bull and she is welcome to rip Murdock a new asshole and she would if I showed my pleasure at her doing it.

by Anonymousreply 190August 31, 2022 3:59 AM

R162 is the same piece of shit who thinks AOC is the left's equivalent of MTG.

Can anyone name ONE "hard left" person that wields power in a major elective office in the U.S.? Even Sanders and "The Squad" who are so reviled by the far right aren't "hard left" (except only in comparison to the actual fascist faction of today's right wing).

by Anonymousreply 191August 31, 2022 4:08 AM

Dunhold cunt halp eet, he gots de Ahlzhymeaners.

by Anonymousreply 192August 31, 2022 4:18 AM

R191, they can't answer. You ask them for actual Dem legislation that compares to what the ENTIRE GOP is doing and they can't answer. These so-called "moderates" are idiots who think a 20 yo tweeting about pronouns is the counter to DeSantis abusing his power.

The far-right is the entire GOP at this point. Justifying censorship and making 10yo rape victims give birth and pushing Christian nationalism. WTF did AOC or Ilhan Omar propose? Student debt relief and universal healthcare - the horror.

What it tells you is that they have a higher tolerance for the right-wing embracing fascism than the "colored" women looking for better working wages for low income people.

by Anonymousreply 193August 31, 2022 4:19 AM

R193- I live near Atlanta which has a high percentage of AA and I have yet to come into contact with even one black woman who supports Trump. I call bullshit on whoever posted that nonsense. They fucking loath him, as all sane people do.

by Anonymousreply 194August 31, 2022 4:26 AM

I've said it before, but I firmly believe Donald's last words will be, "They listened to me." The context is to be determined, but I'm leaning toward pathetic longing for what once was.

by Anonymousreply 195August 31, 2022 4:30 AM

R195- I honestly believe that his dying words will be , " But I won the election, I am President." He has convinced himself that the election was stolen from him. His ego is actually that fragile and he will never admit that he is wrong.

by Anonymousreply 196August 31, 2022 4:42 AM

This whole thing is to allow Trump to bow out of the POTUS race. He'll get a slap on the hand, community service and a fine (paid for by donations). No way is he going to risk being a loser. Or- worse- be stuck in that dreary White House for four more years. He's not leaving Flarduh.

by Anonymousreply 197August 31, 2022 4:50 AM

R197- Mary Trump said that he would never run for President again because he wouldn't dare risk losing a second time. He simply couldn't handle it.

by Anonymousreply 198August 31, 2022 5:39 AM

Will they pee and poop over the battlefield like they did in the Capitol?

by Anonymousreply 199August 31, 2022 5:49 AM

They humiliated our country.

by Anonymousreply 200August 31, 2022 5:52 AM

The MAGAts continue to humiliate themselves AND our country. The rest of the world is looking at them in revulsion, they know it, but refuse to accept the reasons why Trump is only lived by other scumbag DICTATORS and all civilized peoples think they (MAGAts) are repulsive.

When everyone else except trash, everywhere you go except for the trash bin, thinks the problem is you...child -- YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!

by Anonymousreply 201August 31, 2022 10:12 AM

[quote]people who were scared of getting laid

Pics please.

by Anonymousreply 202August 31, 2022 10:21 AM

[QUOTE] Trump 's tantrums right now will rally his base and help turn out the vote. That could hurt us.

“Us”? You’re not part of the us here (or even the U.S., quite frankly) but nice try, MAGA asshole.

by Anonymousreply 203August 31, 2022 3:45 PM

Rupert Murdoch plunges the knife:

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by Anonymousreply 204August 31, 2022 3:47 PM

From link at r204:

[quote]most Republicans would rather the ex-president went away, so the party can figure out where it’s going in the post-Trump future

And it is our responsibility to make sure the republican party is always, ALWAYS linked to Trump.

by Anonymousreply 205August 31, 2022 3:51 PM

Re: R204

Time for the Ultimate Showdown and Cage Match between ULTRAMAGAts and Republicans!

Emcee Cheney and Ringgirl Kinsinger will make appearances!

by Anonymousreply 206August 31, 2022 3:52 PM

I hope Shitler and his MAGGOTS turn on the Repuglicants, Donnie will insist that they ALL stay home and not vote at all. He WILL do this. It's gonna be a beautiful thing, as he likes to say.

by Anonymousreply 207August 31, 2022 3:52 PM

Marry me, R193!!!!!!!! Wonderful response!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 208August 31, 2022 3:53 PM

Whil;e I know these threats of civil war are going fizzle out, and I realize some soft targets and sporadic violence might happen, I want to urge some caution. When we are smong ourselves venting is fine. But as you go about your daily lives don't engage with comparative strangers and share your feelings. I had an AC problem and the technician was an oddball and a Trumper, and I just smiled and nodded and played dumb. He was explaining how Biden was ruining the economy and businesses were closing, etc. and I just nodded and said wow, I had no idea. YOU've given me a lot to think about because I don't follow politics and I don't even think I'm registered to vote." My brother told me God was gonna punish me for that lie! LOL! I actually worked for a U.S. Congressman years ago and have been a Democratic activist for years. But my point is, hate crimes and violence can visit anyone and we just need to be wary out here. The AC guy snorted in disgust at me and said I was "better off not voting."

by Anonymousreply 209August 31, 2022 3:58 PM

Yeah, but was he hot?

by Anonymousreply 210August 31, 2022 3:59 PM

[quote]Trump fans are fanatics and dangerous

Let them eat ivermectin.

by Anonymousreply 211September 1, 2022 2:44 PM

R211- Let them drink bleach!

by Anonymousreply 212September 1, 2022 2:46 PM

Do they drink the urine with ivermectin or the bleach? Did Qand Joe Rogan give them a sequence to follow or are directions like that too tyrannical for them?

by Anonymousreply 213September 1, 2022 3:21 PM

Fall arriving means Pumpkin-Spice Ivermectin!!

by Anonymousreply 214September 1, 2022 4:33 PM

Why is she still alive? That obese body needs to give out soon

by Anonymousreply 215September 1, 2022 4:34 PM

R213, the mouth breathers already drink pee: they drink the urine found in bottles along highways where a lot of truck drivers are passing, because their urine is supposed to be loaded with unmetabolized methamphetamine. (Truck drivers allegedly take meth to be able to drive uninterrupted for days without sleep).

by Anonymousreply 216September 1, 2022 8:02 PM

Isn't Trump commuting sedition?

by Anonymousreply 217September 1, 2022 11:22 PM

There aren't that many Maggots. They just make a lot of noise that gets amplified by media coverage. See how many turned up in that truckers rally in DC.

When it comes to an actual war we might see a rag tag handful who will immediately get arrested.

by Anonymousreply 218September 2, 2022 8:35 AM
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by Anonymousreply 219September 2, 2022 2:40 PM

Let me get this straight: the plan is to terrorize people just going about their business, elected officials, and those who don't feel like LARPing The New Confederacy so they can prove they are morally better, how we all should have picked "their side", how perfect the US will be under their rule, and how sane/dependable/smart they are.

Sounds solid. Great plan, guys. Foolproof.

by Anonymousreply 220September 2, 2022 2:53 PM

No there aren't many ho are willing to go out there waving Trump flags. But Michael Flynn and Alex Jones are up in Nebraska and Flynn is training "patriots" in armed combat. Tehre are cells all over the country doing that. I doubt there are more than 10,000 of them but they're out there.

by Anonymousreply 221September 2, 2022 2:58 PM

That's what you do when faced with a larger and more powerful enemy. You shout and scream and make like you are bigger and more numerous than you actually are.

It's guerrilla warfare 101 to keep them thinking you are more powerful than you actually are.

The more powerful adversary does not need to do this.

by Anonymousreply 222September 2, 2022 3:30 PM

Is that the origins or “walk softly and carry a big stick”?

by Anonymousreply 223September 2, 2022 3:58 PM

Like Freddy Krueger, the more we talk about the orange traitor, the more energy he sucks up. He feeds off of the media attention. Negative or positive, he doesn’t care. He NEEDS media attention to live.

Listen, the man is such a fucking malignant narcissist that he needs attention like he needs air. Since he generates clicks for the media, they will ALWAYS cover his lies and meltdowns. Neither have any decency or shame.

You want this traitor to go away? Stop giving him air. Don’t click on the endless media stories about him. Don’t retweet, repost or comment on stories about him. He LIVES OFF OF OUR ATTENTION.

We know what we have to do. The traitor is going to do anything to stay in the media. Ignoring him would END HIM.

Want the traitor to go away? Stop giving him air.

by Anonymousreply 224September 2, 2022 6:13 PM

What's the total membership of the proud boys, q-anon, and whatever alt right fringe you can think of? How many of these will show up in arms and smurf hats for the Dump? Can find of them get leave from prison to do so?

by Anonymousreply 225September 2, 2022 9:12 PM

Interesting question, R225. I don't think I've ever seen an estimate of how many of those dipshits there actually are.

Does anyone have any data on that?

by Anonymousreply 226September 2, 2022 9:26 PM

Probably the same number as trans, non-binaries, and queers.

by Anonymousreply 227September 2, 2022 9:28 PM

Not trans, not non-binary, but DEFINITELY queer here.

by Anonymousreply 228September 2, 2022 9:31 PM

Of course ^.

by Anonymousreply 229September 2, 2022 9:34 PM

[QUOTE] Like Freddy Krueger, the more we talk about the orange traitor, the more energy he sucks up. He feeds off of the media attention. Negative or positive, he doesn’t care. He NEEDS media attention to live.

Yeah well talking about him might help Democrats win elections, so I say the more Trump chatter the merrier. He’s the perfect political boogeyman.

by Anonymousreply 230September 2, 2022 9:34 PM

[quote]Of course ^.

Thank you!

by Anonymousreply 231September 2, 2022 9:36 PM

Sure.

by Anonymousreply 232September 2, 2022 9:38 PM

Here's a question: We know the NRA openly promoted civil war by urging people to arm themselves. We know the NRA got money from the Russians. We hear that there are millions of members of the NRA who do not agree with their Neo Fascist policies. So WTF are they? Why does no one ever say I am in the NRA and I totallly object to this? why can't the good guys organize and get rid of the bad leadership?

by Anonymousreply 233September 3, 2022 3:40 AM

I think Erik Prince and his Seychelles meeting is important.What is up to these days? Is he part of the Mercenary Wagner Group Putin has? That's a hit squad of mercenaries Putin sent in to Ukraine to assassinate and torture any leadership the could find but to especially go after Zelensky. We need to resurrect Erik Prince threads.

by Anonymousreply 234September 3, 2022 3:43 AM

Trump himself is the ‘terrible thing’, although that is too mild a description for the cockwobble.

by Anonymousreply 235September 3, 2022 3:56 AM

[QUOTE]I think Erik Prince and his Seychelles meeting is important.What is up to these days? Is he part of the Mercenary Wagner Group Putin has? That's a hit squad of mercenaries Putin sent in to Ukraine to assassinate and torture any leadership the could find but to especially go after Zelensky. We need to resurrect Erik Prince threads.

You probably just think Erik Prince is hot, R234.

by Anonymousreply 236September 3, 2022 1:41 PM

Before covid I worked at an upscale hotel in the back office. We had a pretty nice lobby bar population with the boaters as the hotel was had a marina. We had several who would come in with Maga hats and Dump tshirts. Every last one of them were daring anyone to say something. These people are real trolls trying to incite reactions so they can feed their outrage and greivance.

by Anonymousreply 237September 3, 2022 2:15 PM

R237- I hope their food and drink servers pissed in their food.

by Anonymousreply 238September 3, 2022 2:31 PM

I would've, r238.

by Anonymousreply 239September 3, 2022 2:48 PM

The magats tactic as seen yesterday on another forum is "so what if he did take classified docs, what are you going to about?"

Your basic "neener, neener" child's tactic.

by Anonymousreply 240September 3, 2022 2:49 PM

Do his tardo supporters wonder how His Holy Marmalade Fatness will be paying all of their legal bills...when that same Holy Marmalade Fatness is BEGGING them for money? Begging, every day, on every platform he's yet to be booted off of?

by Anonymousreply 241September 3, 2022 4:46 PM

The irony is he is a RINO. He was a Denocrats until he decided to run for president, as a joke and a marketing gimmick. Obviously the bar is lower on the GOP side.

by Anonymousreply 242September 3, 2022 5:11 PM

R240, isn't that the point of being a MAGAt in the first place? Having a petulant child's view of everything and just always expecting to get your way.

I mean it's the reason RW platforms have failed and they stay on Twitter. They want to "own the libs."

by Anonymousreply 243September 3, 2022 5:38 PM

Is there even a bar at this point, R242? I mean Boebert alone proves there isn't one.

by Anonymousreply 244September 3, 2022 5:39 PM

Walter said that GOP leaders like Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are using violent rhetoric in pursuit of short-terms goals and without regard to future consequences, and compared the GOP’s rhetoric to that of former Yugoslav president and war criminal Slobodan Milošević.

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by Anonymousreply 245September 4, 2022 4:31 AM

^^ Who is Tiffany Cross? She looks pretty.

by Anonymousreply 246September 4, 2022 2:28 PM

We've been in a civil war since George HW bush hired a known criminal Karl Rove, to run his campaigns.

by Anonymousreply 247September 4, 2022 2:30 PM

No, we need a real civil war. Enough of this “cold” bullshit. Sporadic bullshit. Enough.

by Anonymousreply 248September 4, 2022 2:43 PM

R246, unfortunately, she has an incredibly annoying voice. I can't watch her because her voice is like nails on a chalkboard.

by Anonymousreply 249September 4, 2022 5:53 PM

What R249 said, times infinity. Nasal and piercing voice.

by Anonymousreply 250September 4, 2022 6:25 PM
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