Distraught Bill Maher Says Mar-a-Lago Raid Is ‘Saving’ Trump’s Political Future: ‘His Fortune Was Finally Falling!’

So basically allow people to break the law for political purposes. Got it.

I'm convinced now this motherfucker is a double agent.

Oh please. Why is Bill Maher pretending that Trump didn't know he had classified top secret material.?That was the whole point of stealing it. Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and N. Korea ain't gonna buy copies White House State Dinner menus and Melania's Rose Garden destruction blueprints.

Bill Maher really understands Trump. Trump is a monster who,lives on attention. It doesn’t matter if it’s good or bad. Plus the media feasts on Trump. I’m ready for another story to dominate the news cycle.

It’s original, penetrating insights like this that made Maher the leading political scientist of our time.

I’m watching it now and Mediate is being very disingenuous with its characterization.

Straight douche Bill Maher doesn't deserve multiple threads every time one of his show airs

Piers Morgan is a “Fox Nation host” now??

Saving his political future is different from scandalizing his crimes.

Good. Saving his political future means another Democratic victory in 2024.

[quote]Bill Maher really understands Trump. Trump is a monster who,lives on attention. It doesn’t matter if it’s good or bad.

That's rich coming from someone talking about Bill Maher. Maher is doing the exact same thing. All his contrarian shit is to get him attention, good or bad.

R11, it wasn’t a contrarian discussion at all.

Alternatively: Trump is indicted, is ruled ineligible to run, allowing DeSantis to win the primaries, becoming the GOP nominee, is able to attract both Trump supporters and Never Trumpers, and crushes the Dem nominee in 2024.

Lesson: be careful what you wish for.

What on earth is that tie he’s wearing?

It looks like a truckload of free mulch.

He used to be pretty engaging and edgy as far as comedic commentators go. He'd say stuff some of us were thinking. He had a certain wryness about him but now he just seems cranky. Now he is old, dull, cantankerous. He's like Dave Chappelle. They just lost their magic touch.

He’s such a full of shit troll desperate for ratings.

Trump's malignant narcissism will never permit him to allow DeCantseemytoes to win. He will do everything in his power to ruin his chances. If course, DeSantis could promise to grant trump a pardon if he helps him win the WH. Then DeSantis could not keep his word.

R12, he is literally the only one saying this was good for Trump and has saved his political future. He takes stock of what is being said on any given topic and then either goes way beyond it or contradicts it for attention.

R18, that’s not what he was saying at all. In context it was saving his future in the Republican party since martyrdom seems to work well for him.

R19, he literally said it in the quoted parts of the original post. Calls him the luckiest man ever because of the raid giving him political fodder and says, "And this is saving Trump politically because now, of course, all the Republicans — what do they do?”.

R20, context matters. What he said was relative to his standing in the Republican Party and it’s true. Two weeks ago Trump’s star was waning a bit and now it’s not. He knows how to work the martyr angle.

Bill Maher is an idiot. Stop listening to him.

He’s right. Trump now gets to be martyr. Trump supporters Believe the raid is proof that trump is being persecuted by the government

They already believed that, and no one else does.

If DOJ charges Trump, DeSantis is cleared for a functionally unopposed 2024 run. But he's in a bad spot when he gets asked if he will pardon Trump. He needs to say yes to not piss off the base he needs to turn out to win, but he needs to say no to not drive away the independents he also needs to win.

Oh, please. Trump and his minions have thought of him as a martyr for his entire existence. This hasn't changed anything. Maher has become a slightly intelligent jester at this point saying what he says for attention because he's only slightly less narcissistic and attention whoring than Trump himself. And, I already know his fanboys vociferously disagree...just like Trump's fanboys.

Oh? Is that show still on?

[quote]This hasn't changed anything. Maher has become a slightly intelligent jester at this point saying what he says for attention because he's only slightly less narcissistic and attention whoring than Trump himself. And, I already know his fanboys vociferously disagree...just like Trump's fanboys.

There was absolutely nothing Maher said about Trump that was the least bit controversial or trollish, so much so that it makes me wonder if a faction on the left is trying to drum up controversy to take him out.

Given that Trump is a master at using all the medias it would have been smarter to keep the raid under wraps until they were ready to release some concrete findings to the public. It is not speculation that Trump can use this politically to fuel up his base, it is also not speculation to say giving him anything to use as momentum at this time is detrimental to the left for the upcoming elections.

Keeping attention away from Trump is the best thing that can be done it's cutting his political balls off.

First, stop referring to the FBI search as "a raid." It wasn't a raid, it was a search. They didn't kill anybody, they didn't arrest anybody, they didn't detain anybody, and Maraslago goes on to operate as a country club for spies another day.

Second, it's pretty fucking concrete that the FBI and DOJ is investigating Trump for violations of the Espionage Act. That they got a Trump-appointed judge to sign off on the warrant shows that they have concrete evidence. The DOJ would never have asked the court to un-seal the warrant and put it out there for the world to see exactly what they were alleging if they didn't think they had an excellent chance of proving it.

In fact, it was a smart strategy for the FBI to execute the warrant and let Trump be the spokemouth to tell the world about it. When you're dealing with someone like Trump (and thankfully, there aren't many like Trump), no matter what you do, he's going to play the martyr. That's ben his MO since the day he glided down his golden escalator to the paid professional crowd's cheers. Garland and the DOJ knew exactly what they were doing, and they were prepared. And the bottom line is that if you think the MAGAts overreacted to this, just imaging how they'd have reacted if they had kept the investigation under wraps and instead waited until they arrested Trump and frog-march him in front of the cameras... there would have been rioting and violence across the nation as the MAGAts saw their dear leader handcuffed and lead off to prison.

There has been one constant refrain — by those who know — since news broke that Trump was under investigation: we have no idea how serious this is, and likely never will. The stuff Trump has stolen and sold is so classified that we'll never see it. If you think what has come out already is bad for Trump, just wait. It's going to get a whole lot worse.

As far as Bill Maher... he's a libertarian:

[quote]when asked, he has been explicit about his ideology: “I’m a libertarian,” he said to Rolling Stone (4/13/11). “I would be a Republican if they would. Which means that I like the Barry Goldwater Republican Party, even the Reagan Republican Party.” His choice in naming the two figures whose mission was to upend the liberal order, often through appeals to racism and white nationalism, is telling.... "I want a mean old man to watch my money,” he added. “Because government is a sieve that takes as much money as it can and gives it away, usually needlessly.”

And so, I will leave you with this axiom: not all idiots are libertarian, but all libertarians are idiots.

[quote] First, stop referring to the FBI search as "a raid." It wasn't a raid, it was a search

A "search" with drawn machine guns redefines the term much like 9% inflation becomes no inflation and $400 billion of fresh climate change spending becomes an anti-inflation bill.

Oh please. Of course the FBI showed up with guns; it's their job. No one was shot. No one had a gun pointed at them. There were lawyers present despite Cheeto's claims; one of his attorneys was on Fox News undermining the claims that there was no Trump representative present, and their signature on the forms/receipts for the materials confiscated that the FBI was required to leave behind proves it.

It was a search, period.

Claiming Trump will come off as a martyr and that this will not hurt him politically is just Maher playing the odds--so many other things have failed to take him down.

How about let's focus on the fact that he must have had truly horrifying stuff for the biggest piece of white bread to ever exist, Merrick Garland, to sign off on this. We can start the usual horserace shit later. Of course Bill now has to do and say something outrageous every week to keep getting any attention.

I still can't believe the massive hard on people have here for this libertarian douchebag. The ones who insist he's a leftist and not an obvious libertarian are the biggest idiots.

You do know that there’s such a thing as being a leftist-libertarian, r34?

I think as the horrifying facts regarding the classified material which tweety took home to Florida becomes more and more obvious, that the “victim defense ” will lose quite a bit of momentum.

R35, Bill Maher is not a leftist and what you're describing (or not, actually) isn't remotely common. There are anarchist libertarians but they're not really to be taken seriously, either.

Bill Maher is a conservative who likes weed and paying for his girlfriends' abortions. He's not remotely leftist in any real way. He's been the water boy for third way neolibs/neocons for a generation at this point. It's laughable that anyone sees him as remotely leftist at this point.

So, the full-throated defenses of him of not saying what he actually said or missing the context on this thread are from other libertarians. That explains a lot.

[quote]Bill Maher is not a leftist and what you're describing (or not, actually) isn't remotely common.

🙄

[quote]So, the full-throated defenses of him of not saying what he actually said or missing the context on this thread are from other libertarians. That explains a lot.

There’s nothing he said that wasn’t said today on the Sunday shows. Not sure what needs to be said… If you want a transcript then I suggest you watch the show.

Show me all these quotes from others saying that this was good for Trump and proves how lucky he is, R40.

HOGAN: There’s a lot more that has to come out. I would say, you know, this week it was actually a win for Donald Trump. It seemed to motivate his base and people were rushing to his defense and feeling as if he was being picked upon and martyred. But I don’t think, you know, we’ve seen the end of the story yet.

And, r41…here’s a thought…WATCH THE FUCKING SHOWS BEFORE COMMENTING

When Bill Maher says the exact same thing as my married, Staten Island-residing, retired ex-NYPD cop brother, then Bill's a total fraud and as conservative as Bill O'Reilly.

R42, you are literally quoting a Repug who would gladly slurp up the leavings of Trump after a spicy Mexican meal. You can't quote his spinmaster in defense of Maher unless you're going to agree that Maher is also acting like a Trump spinmaster.

R45, no kidding sparky…first, that was Maher’s point that Trump was elevated amongst REPUBLICANS. Not the general electorate. REPUBLICANS.

And second… you’re showing your ignorance about Hogan… here’s Karl’s introduction if him…

[quote]Donald Trump’s allies weren’t alone in raising concerns about the FBI’s execution of that search warrant at Mar-a-Lago. Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, who has long been one of Trump’s toughest critics within the party also expressed concerns that the action could divide the country. Governor Hogan joins us now here in the studio. Governor, let me ask you, you -- you are no friend of Donald Trump.

He’s a Never fucking Trumper, r45. But, please go on with your alternative facts…

I am not impressed with Bill Maher’s predictions. He’s been wrong before multiple tiles. He wants his opinions to come across as unique and surprising, if not sort of shocking.

Trump is not going to add newcomers to his fan base. People who already reject him are not flipping. He may make his core supporters more fervent and fuel their anger, but his opposition has a new list of reasons to deem him unfit to hold office again.

^times, not tiles

R46, anyone who's going on news shows now and pretending this is good for Trump is a Trump slurper.

R46, you're a libertarian, aren't you?

No, r50, I’m not.

R49…And anyone pretending it didn’t doesn’t have a fucking clue.

[quote]Bill's a total fraud and as conservative as Bill O'Reilly.

I'm not so sure:

I think Bill Maher’s time has passed. I don’t hate him, but he’s become predictable. Predictable as your Trumptard uncle at Thanksgiving. His brain still works though, and he needs to demonstrate that more often. He is starting to become the neighborhood crank who yells at kids to “get off (his) lawn.” Sad. Don’t go out like this Bill!

Calling him predictable for not marching in rigid lockstep with the hive mind.

Just call him a Thought Criminal.

No, R54, he's predictably contrarian which is what we've been saying this entire thread. Saying the opposite of everything all the time is also, by definition, hive mind, ya idiot.

It's so weird that Bill Maher, of all people, has such fervent fanboys.

But he didn’t say anything controversial or contrarian, r55. R54 is right…this is thought police shit on this one.

His fans can't tolerate any criticism of their hero. Pathetic.

LOL…same can be said about you, r57. All the whining when he says something you don’t agree with is way more pathetic.

Yes, toss around "hive mind" and "thought police" while swearing up and down you're not conservative. Throw in a "sheeple" and an anti-mask diatribe while you're at it. So credible, mimicking conservatives while claiming not to be one. You sound exactly like one. Much like your boy BM.

If the shoe fits, r59, it fits…🤷

That's not whining, it's ridicule.

We're laughing at you. You're laughably out of touch.

No…it’s whining. It’s definitely whining and it’s pretty much every week.

He's a contrarian. How the hell will Trump run for POTUS after this? At best, he'd finish last in a Rethug primary.

Bill Maher knows nothing.

Being charged with espionage might make the few hundred crazed Trumpanzees go on killing rampages, but elections are lost in the middle and soft Dems and soft Republicans understand the seriousness of stealing top secret intel to sell to America's enemies. I'm certain Garland has that evidence already as well.

How much is HBO spending on Twitter and other social media site pushing Maher as being “edgy” and “controversial” in an attempt to get people to hate-watch him

Maher's real job is to get everyone bitching about him once a week. He trends every single weekend on the bird app so he's doing a great job.

It's been his schtick for decades now. It's fun to see people getting all wound up about whatever the fuck he's talking about and then forget about it completely by the next week's outrage du jour.

Hey, fanboys, give us a "controversial" topic that Bill has taken a stand on recently and, without looking it up, I bet we can guess what his position was.

Why are we stuck with a stand-up comedian as the arbiter of national politics?

Jon Stewart is making a career of the very same fodder.

Somehow he absolutely pretends his Hillary bashing was shameful and is so far up the NYFD/NYPD assholes he won't slap them into reality faces or shame them for their almost unanimous votes for Republicans, the very same Republicans who fucked around the Zadroga bill funding for fifteen fucking years!

[quote]Hey, fanboys, give us a "controversial" topic that Bill has taken a stand on recently and, without looking it up, I bet we can guess what his position was.

This has to be the dumbest comment yet. You do realize that it’s not hard to guess anyone’s position based on their stated ideology, right?

You really are a fucking moron, aren't you, R70? The entire fucking point is that he doesn't have an ideology. He's just a contrarian and he does it for attention. So, he will not have a coherent position on any given topic because his position will depend on which way the political/cultural winds are blowing. Whichever way it is, he'll go the opposite direction. He really does have a whole bunch of fervent little fanboys, most likely libertarian incels.