Holy shit squared. It’s about nukes pt. 2

I'm early, aren't I?...

I'll come back later

No, stay and hang out. Want a drinkie poo?

I'll take one, R2. Do you know how to make an Ethel Rosenberg's ghost?

Memory lane...

BEARKING!

This is Nora O'Donnell, live in the CBS newsroom where is has just been confirmed thst Donald Trump, President of the United States.....is a Twitter troll! CBS news has just learned that Twitter WILL move to suspend the President's Twitter account, and we MUST add that there IS talk of PERMANENT banning! Stay tuned for MORE developments on this CBS news station.

I know I shouldn't...but I'm allowing myself one day to actually believe he's going down.

I'm an avowed atheist, but please god, don't you fucking take this away from us! Don't let him find a way out of this!

[quote]Do you know how to make an Ethel Rosenberg's ghost?

Yes, but it requires electricity.

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Conan O'Brien

@ConanOBrien Right now the FBI is Googling how to get ketchup off sensitive documents.

It's true the President can declassify documents but there are rules, regulations and a defined process that have to be followed. He can't just say "I pronounce you declassified" and sprinkle fairy dust and dandruff on them.

Hope it doesn't take long now for the DOJ to file charges.

He cannot declassify nuclear documents R8.

You can burn a sugar cube without electricity.

[quote]Do you know how to make an Ethel Rosenberg's ghost? - Yes, but it requires electricity.

Yes, but it requires juice.

r8 Yes, but nuclear-related documents are explicitly excluded from that.

I had muted the Facebook feed of an old friend who'd gone MAGA. I just checked her FB page hoping for change. Nope. She posted that third world nations let street crimes go unpunished while federal police harass political opposition leaders. I don't know what, if anything, will bring her back from the edge.

I was a Cold War baby so I’m well aware of how ficking scary this is. You don’t fuck around with nukes.

Just back over her with your car, R14. Repeatedly. And accidentally, of course 😉

Maybe he believes he changed the law so that he can just sprinkle cheeto dust over documents and then they're automatically de-classified.

Please fix me a Rose Kennedy with lime wedge. I want to settle in as tRUMPer-roony is spit roasted by Garland.

BEARKING! The documents have been proven to be covered with orange cheeto dust. PROOF that Trump himself was handling the documents!!!!!

A few FBI agents are whispering about the faint odor of urine in 2 boxes.

A nacreous layer of permacum was also discovered on said documents.

Great! How about a GIF like those Cheeto ads but with classified documents?

It was just a list of Melania's clients. Move along, folks, nothing to see here

R11, the MAGAts on my feed, including my QAnonner Uncle, are foaming other mouth. Lots of f-bombs. Threatening to move, threatening other people. Posting videos of them sobbing. Posting Bible verses.

It's HILARIOUS! I'm reporting so many of them and grabbing some screenshots to make my 2022 Christmas cards for family and friends.

*foaming at the mouth

Nah R23, where weren't enough boxes for that!

[quote]Threatening to move

An idea that should be vigorously encouraged.

Like Lucy with the football this is going to be pulled out from under you as so many before it.

Property receipt of the seized documents

Keep telling yourself that r28

In fairness, or perhaps as a teachable moment, dodging is a favourite tactic on DL too. Look at the European visiting LA shocked by homeless thread. It reliably devolved into 'but what about...'

[It's true the President can declassify documents but there are rules, regulations and a defined process that have to be followed. He can't just say "I pronounce you declassified" and sprinkle fairy dust and dandruff on them.]

Plus, if they were actually declassified like the MAGA morons are screeching, they’d be marked as such and we wouldn’t be going through all this, right?

R24, where are they threatening to move to? LOL? Where is this MAGA paradise?

[Threatening to move]

Please share the date and time when I should be there to help them pack.

Wake up. They are trying to stay in power. They are abusing power.

Brian McBride on Twitter: CNN analyst says the intel Trump stole are so sensitive that FBI agents will begin FINGER PRINTING each document to find out who actually touched them.

[quote]Threatening to move

We don't want them either.

r35 You have no power here, deplorable.

The sections of the Espionage Act cited in the warrant do not specify that the data needs to be classified.

Where is smokinggun.com when we need them?

DIG HER UP

[quote]He can't just say "I pronounce you declassified" and sprinkle fairy dust and dandruff on them.

Donald Trump IS Miss Vida Boheme

R40, I don't have the link, but I've seen it posted here on DL at least twice today. You don't need smokinggun, you just need google.

He would absolutely throw the U.S. under the bus for profit.

It will be interesting to compare the documents that Trump kept and hid with the ones he turned over earlier this year in response to the subpoena. Did he try to keep the most valuable confidential documents?

Where the fuck is he going if the US is permanently reduced to a turd world nation?

I eat old people’s excrement.

R21, nacreous layers of permacum form wherever Jared settles.

[quote]CNN analyst says the intel Trump stole are so sensitive that FBI agents will begin FINGER PRINTING each document to find out who actually touched them.

Then the dripping ketchup and mayo will come in handy.

R33, most of them are saying they want to move to Florida! One said Florida "...as close as I can to Mar-a-Largo, to be close to President Trump and protect him!"🤣🤣🤣

Another cited Florida as the state they would make their "Last stand with the true president!"

Oh my God, I am going to create photo albums of the screenshots these moron's posts for my family instead holiday cards! There are just too many!

Postat R50 was from R24, who hasn't enjoyed his social media feed this much since Biden's win!

Applies to the DL cunts, too:

Thor Benson @thor_benson : Sure stealing nuclear secrets is bad but have you considered the threat of a gender-neutral Mr. Potato Head

[quote] Please share the date and time when I should be there to help them pack.

And I'll book the same moving company that moved his files to Mar-a-Lago.

When Donald fucks wit my monies, he too also fucks wit my emotions. Hard-core this you did not know me!

R52 - it’s funny how MAGATs lose their shit over gender neutral Mr. Potato Head and plant-based sausage, but think nothing of Trump being a traitor. Fucking unreal.

WOWWWWWWWW R36. I would be shitting bricks if I’d worked for Trump during the transition. We could be looking at dozens of arrests and prison sentences.

"He would absolutely throw the U.S. under the bus for profit."

He does that every day.

So did the FBI plant the documents or did Trump declassify them? Trumpsters don’t see that it can’t be both.

"MAGATs... think nothing of Trump being a traitor. Fucking unreal."

Because it's how they would do it if they were President. There are still Deplorables who would celebrate if Trump and his militias took over the White House, ousted the Bidens, reinstated Trump as POTUS. All they understand is bullying, violence and revenge.

Agree, R59. Because they are TRASH.

One reason this is so satisfying is because we all knew he was a traitor, we knew he was selling out the country and this proves it. There is no way- none- he just accidentally had this because he wanted to show off, or because the maid packed the wrong stuff.

We all know why he had this stuff. We've known it all along and now somebody has called his bluff and put it out there in the open. Which Mueller should have done years ago.

I said this a different thread but I really wonder if the J6 committee found something on Alex Jones phone about documents at lardo. The warrant was signed the day after they received the phone data and we know how close he is with the whole crew of traitors. Trump and Jones are both loud mouth braggarts and I can easily imagine that Jones was aware the documents existed, even though Trump may not have told him directly.

I can't wait to find out where the tip actually originated.

Wouldn’t it be awesome if Tiffany Trump was the one who ratted him out?

This is just the logical, totally unsurprising culmination of a crooked and anti-patriotic career.

Actually, I think it would be better if it was Barron; as Trump is being hauled off in handcuffs, he can scream at him "SO WHO IS THE RETARD NOW, FAT MAN?"

Vairst Leddy & Barron celebrate Trump's arrest by ordering chicken wings & throwing the bones against the walls. End of scene

lol, r65

I'm not satisfied, I am scared shitless these magats are gonna get us all killed with their bullshit nazi games.

"So the FBI planted classified evidence, but also Trump declassified that evidence that he never took, but also it's not even a big deal if he did take it because only one box was classified I mean declassified, but also even if he did have many boxes of classified documents.."

Chump revealed the names of the FBI agents who reclaimed the stolen documents.

here's the link for the hit

The next couple of weeks are going to be crazy (or maximum crazy, if you will) because Trumpies are going to be wildly flinging poo to distract from Dear Leader's troubles. But Trump will be like a cornered animal - if he thinks he's going down, he'll take everyone he can with him. If I were Lady G, I'd be pouring myself another mint julep because things could get bumpy for her. There are going to be more attacks on law enforcement as diehard try to find a hill to die on for The Master

Mass suicides are a suitable outcome for maga.

Mass suicide is too good for them

what about the docs on the French president?

That's fucking revolting, R70

Unsurprising, but revolting.

Where are our MAGATs on here? Tell us how that is ok. Let's here your bullshit. Where is No1Waffler. Tell us how great Putin and Trump are and how this is just fine, you crazy assed bitch.

Just kidding, I do not want to hear your fucking vile lies and batshit excuses! Take it all to Gab and parler with the other TRAITORS!!

The traitors are waiting to hear from their masters how to respond.

The braying will start again soon enough

I've heard just about fucking enough of commentators even mildly suggesting that the docs could have been taken accidentally. The actual historical fact is he continually refused to comply with the return requests; there is no justification for giving this traitor any grace.

Fuck.

It's Jared.

I'm reposting this from the last thread...

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your reminder that Reality Winner took one document and spent four years in prison. one document. four years. no negotiations

Isn't about that time of night for Don Jr to get really coked up and make a video?

"Trump is a flight risk.

He's being investigated for espionage.

He needs to be taken in NOW."

r28/r35 - Stealth...you need more stealth. S-T-E-A-L-T-H. You're obviously out of your league here. Come back when you can troll with more panache.

Interesting that Trump. Melania and Barron are still squatting (illegally) at the golf resort. When his other family members down there have bought properties. Why buy when you're not staying?

I read that the FBI is going to fingerprint the documents to see who touched them

Trolls like him do tend to show us their hand waaay too quickly, R83.

Rep. Elaine Luria@RepElaineLuria

"As a 20-year Navy veteran, I held a Top Secret/SCI clearance.

The former President mishandled information that could cause exceptionally grave damage to the United States and potentially contains sources and methods"

R83 I'd guess you have to be pretty low on the troll totem pole to be assigned to Datalounge rather than Twitter or Facebook.

Top Secret/SCI is categorized as info that, if revealed, could result in the loss of human life.

Mike Flynn wanted to transfer nuclear tech to Saudi Arabia

- Jared Kushner received $2B from Saudi Arabia six months after Trump left office

- Donald Trump recently hosted a Saudi-backed tournament at Bedminster

- The FBI searched Mar-A-Lago for docs related to nuclear weapons

Why must people post the entire contents of a tweet, then post a link to the tweet itself? The redundancy is stupid.

You are being a cunt.

@r91, Not everyone can read Tweets, so it's a courtesy, ok?

So are you, R92, by using the word cunt.

Star Jones @StarJonesEsq

Knowing the man for more than TWO DECADES…I’m still tripping on how anyone could vote for Trump so he could become #POTUS and have access to nuclear documents. We’re lucky he didn’t cause WW3. I voted for Hillary & Uncle Joe. Don’t blame me.

Thanks r93. I have no patience for gatekeepers who appointed themselves to be in charge. Miserable cunts.

Tweets get deleted or removed by Twitter, accounts get suspended and banned.

This should not have to be explained.

Well isn't Miss R96 special and superior.

You're a cunt.

^ He's better than you, Princess

^ For r97

This "special" cunt R100 R99 R98 etc is having a spaz attack. I wonder why. Maybe because she got called out on her bullshit and is deflecting by screeching "cunt!!" Move on, troll.

@r101, There's two of us, dear, he thinks you're a cunt, I think you're an asshole

The feeling is mutual R102. x2

^ Maybe you should stop being a cunty asshole and trying to be the DL hall monitor. I like when people post the content of a Tweet with a link, it lets me decide if I want to go to Twitter or just read what the post said. You don't run the show here, Missy

So you're entitled to that opinion R104. Just because I made 1 post expressing annoyance about people who duplicate entire tweets and then also post the tweet, doesn't mean you need to call me a cunt a dozen times. You sound totally unhinged and possibly mentally ill. Now move on, trollina. You don't run the show here either.

^ You sound drunk. Good night, Cupcake

I'm not drunk. But you still sound mentally ill hon. And I am not your "cupcake"

....and using dismissive terms like "cupcake" indicates you are insecure and have a need to put others down in order to make yourself feel superior. You have done that several times here. Consider therapy to get help in dealing with your issues. It sounds like you need help getting some perspective. I wish you better mental health in the future R106.

^ r98 was right, you ARE a cunt

R109 just got the FF button.

Ladies, ladies, let us settle this once and for all. Having read through the posts I can confirm that it is indeed R91 who acted cuntily. R91, perhaps you didn't understand that R90 was attempting to be helpful in posting the text of the tweet for those who would not be able to see the tweet itself. If this is indeed the case you can graciously apologize now and reassure everyone that you were not raised by farm animals.

^Ooh, she's really going to be mad now 😂

another vote for r91 being a hall monitor cunt

The “cupcake” cunt seems like a division troll.

How about we stipulate that everyone in this thread is a cunt (including me) and go back to talking about the uber-cunt who got caught stealing classified documents?

this detour made me laugh.

I good DL cunty catfight is always a nice respite, isn't it, R116?

CUNTS!

In honor of the truly juvenile behavior of Trump and the Republicans ("I didn't do it Mom, Joey did it. Joey was with you, Mom? Phil did it"), I'm going to name the messages above as "You're not the boss of me!"

OP, or Miss Information, no it's not about nukes.

@r119, "You're not the boss of me!"

Maybe not, but you're still a cunt

(sound of door slamming)

^ ... As she flounces away

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Hey, it's me. The word-a-day calendar

I predicted on the other thread that the nuclear secrets story was a cover for something else, and that the cover story would only get stupider and weirder as time went on.

We're now on to penis pumps, blackmail against the French president, and hiding documents in handbags. It's only been a day. Quixotic.

Catherine Herridge from CBS is reporting that Trump was holding onto declassified documents related to Crossfire Hurricane.

R124 Oh, I'm sorry, and a taxodermied bird too.

I can at least believe that there are written documents related to Crossfire Hurricane.

Do y'all think it's true that he buried Ivana on one of his FUCKING golf courses only to avoid paying taxes on it?

What nonsense the FBI wouldn't have gotten a warrant to go after declassified docs about crossfire hurricane. Seems like the right is really twisting themselves into pretzels over this one 😂

R127. Most of us know the body dump site is a separate parcel that has different tax status from the Golf couse.

R125, there will be a whole mix of stuff which you can see from what was seized in receipts. The general population is not going to find out what was in the Top Secret files. So of course the thicks are going to focus on the stuff they are allowed to know about and scream about it. Some people seriously need to catch themselves on.

Trump is going down. Otherwise the GOP leadership would not have suddenly gone radio silent.

This is it.

The Q-Nuts just make it up as the go along, the more outrageous the better. There's no hope for them anyway

[quote]Trump is going down. Otherwise the GOP leadership would not have suddenly gone radio silent.

You think meaningless talking points just fucking write themselves?

This shit is hard!

[quote] Trump is going down. Otherwise the GOP leadership would not have suddenly gone radio silent.

Josh Marshall called this Republican silence a "fugue window": "It is probably best to say that we are back in one of those fugue windows Trump Republicans have, much like January 7th-9th 2021, in which there’s a period of relative silence while a story is devised to explain why something inexplicable and indefensible is in fact awesome and totally fine. They’ll get there."

Yeah, that's what I said. Gimme a fucking minute!

We all already know those fucking Pukes colluded with Russia and were highly paid - either directly or via the NRA. They are fucking classic politicians who will throw anyone under the bus to save themselves. The singular reason they stand by Dump is to save their own sorry asses. They do this because they know Dump has blackmail material on them. Yes, that golfing game where Dump told your faggoty Lindsay ass that he has proof of you being a bottomless bottom. The rest of these Puke scum were outright paid by Russia. That’s why your sorry asses need to fall behind Dump! You must save your own dirty butts!

I can only hope this treachery and disservice to Americans lands you in jail.

What's this about Ivana?

^ She's the keeper of the family secrets... Six feet under

Yes r137. Deflect. Read again r136.

[quote] The Federal Bureau of Investigation agents took around 20 boxes of items, binders of photos, a handwritten note and the executive grant of clemency for Mr. Trump’s ally Roger Stone

Holy shit WHAT

I am just now catching up on all this and am processing what I'm sure most of you already processed yesterday afternoon.

The Republicans are going to hang onto Trump until the election. Then, most of them will publicly distance themselves. Probably the day after the election.

I don't know what Trump is going to do about getting a decent criminal lawyer to represent him. He has a real situation there. If the only representation is the lawyers I've seen on tv, he's screwed. His many, many cases will cost millions of dollars in legal fees. They are giving bad advice, or are too timid to give any advice and he wouldn't follow it regardless.

The DOJ is just going to bulldoze him while he rants about how unfair his little life has turned out.

Will work for better hair dye r141!

@r141, Good, sounds like a perfect end for a perfectly deplorable man

Meme of the year.

Look, Trump is attacking the DoJ and the FBI, going so far as to try to get FBI agents hurt through his rhetoric and with that stunt of releasing the unredacted warrant.

The FBI is not going to look kindly on that, and I'd bet there are a few FBI folks left behind who are going to be doubly upset after they all but handed him the 2016 election with Comey's little October Surprise.

If he gets bulldozed by the DoJ, well, he brought this on himself. If the FBI doesn't show any leniency, well, he should have thought of that a while ago.

I read a long time ago that the DOJ hired many of NY’s top lawyers in order to make them unavailable for hire by Dump. Not that he’d ever actually pay them, but still, there’s that.

Maybe Biden has decided he's not running again and therefore doesn't care about any political consequences to himself and that his legacy should be destroying Trump for the sake of the country.

More power to him.

R145. No, that Comey Surprise was the singular brainchild of Giuliani’s NY FBI Bureau - not the entirety of the US FBI department. The NY FBI bureau was the sole OG mafia-riddled fucknuts who were in favor of electing their good friend and fellow mafioso Dump that was engineered entirely by Orange balls-sucking NY mayor Giuliani.

R139, Sorry, but R136 is calling people faggots. Certainly no poetaster!

I don't understand why Ivana keeps getting brought up by people on this thread like she's relevant to this. That's what I'm inferring from what's being said, perhaps I am wrong.

Thank you so much for your kindness and eloquence.

The best way to deal with the FBI is to rat out their agents.

After that, they back off and leave you al

Exactly, and why should it matter who is ratting on Dump. It could be more than one person, FCS! Why the fixation on Ivanka? Who really care is the end.

^ Mystery and intrigue are more interesting

Then I’d rat out the small-time grifting dicks in Giulani’s 2016 NY FBI bureau, but they are small, no one would give a fuck. That’s how small their dicks were. They were so small and insignificant that no one would care after so much time.

[QUOTE] I don't understand why Ivana keeps getting brought up by people on this thread like she's relevant to this. That's what I'm inferring from what's being said, perhaps I am wrong.

People are speculating that Ivana’s coffin holds more secret documents. Perhaps even some that are now MISSING. One of the talking heads interpreted the warrant as saying that he possibly destroyed or is still hiding additional TS materials.

Really, what better place to hide them? It’s far-fetched but we are talking about Trump here. You have to use your imagination. That pig would do anything.

RIP r150 died as he lived, ratting out FBI agents

I didn't think Ivana's death was fishy until this happened, now I'm starting to wonder, just because it seems like there is NO LOW when it comes to what Trump will do to keep his fat ass outta prison.

Can you even imagine the absolute pandemonium if the FBI shows up with a backhoe and a warrant to dig up Ivana's grave?

I doubt that he buried her all that deep r156. Doubt a backhoe will be necessary.

He or his vile spawn are gonna want those documents sooner rather than later.

Yes, exactly. Burying someone on private property is no shield against the DOJ. Only MAGAts and cheap, underrated lawyers would think as much. Ya know, they are so dumb that given a tidily bit of pressure will result in them fucking themselves. Oy!

R154 It is highly farfetched, but thank you for explaining. Now I know what all of the calls to exhume Ivana are about.

It is TOTALLY unacceptable for any weepy queens on this site to start expressing "human sympathy" for this dictatorial lump of human shit, who has done his damnedest to wreck our system of government, now that it looks like he may finally go down the drain. TOTALLY unacceptable.

r159

Well, well, I see a noose tightening. Timing purely coincidental, I'm sure. The only downside to this news is it means it's not likely Jared was the rat:

[quote]Please fix me a Rose Kennedy with lime wedge. I want to settle in as tRUMPer-roony is spit roasted by Garland.

To be completely fair one needs two dicks for a proper spit-roasting.

So who's the 2nd dick? Obama? HRC with a strapon?

Jared Kushner is a money-loving she-man of a certain tribe’s (unspeakable racist noun) grub of a human - if even given signification. He thinks he will take that money to his sniveling grave, the pathetic fuck!

The Prince and Princess of Darkness wait patiently...

[quote]The Republicans are going to hang onto Trump until the election.

That will work for Republican incumbents in red-leaning districts, where there are enough cultists to support them. In the more iffy districts there's more risk that marginal voters will be turned off by Trump support and stay home (or even vote blue), resulting in some Republicans who came in with Trump on the ticket in 2020 getting washed away now that he's more generally toxic.

The GOP is giving a united front for ESPIONAGE

After the recent Kansas vote, I don't know that even red-leaning districts are going to be backing the GOP. They definitely won't in the midterms, maybe by 2024 something will have changed, but I'd bet there will still be plenty of Republican voters sitting things out. This is not going to end well for them.

We are still not quite getting it: the Trump-loving Republicans simply cannot go against anything Trump for fear of him unleashing their deals ($$$) with the Russians. If they are exposed by the truth, they will end up in jail. Gee, does one need to elaborate further on why they are behaving as they are? Does anyone willfully choose to go to jail? Think about it for a minute.

Only the dumb and openly racist MAGAts are pro Trump on the socials today! The rest are all: "I don't know her." or backing S-L-O-W-L-Y away.

It's hilarious.

The Republican Party 🎉 has become the Official Party of Espionage and Treason against the United States 🇺🇸 of America

I wonder if privately Mitch McConnell has any regrets. I know he is a soulless monster, depraved and everything, but this has gotten out of control. I think he was corrupting the nation's institutions for the benefit of ongoing, comparatively benign Republican graft... a succession of Presidents and Congresses that stayed in check, enslaving the poor and uneducated in favor of the markets and making fortunes for themselves. The authoritarianism and the potential international instability does not aid either the markets or fortune making.

Am I being desperately optimistic if I wonder if the great capitalists of the U.S., and the world, are on the phones these days ordering McConnell to get control of the party again?

[quote] the Trump-loving Republicans simply cannot go against anything Trump for fear of him unleashing their deals ($$$) with the Russians

Even assuming such a network of financial support exists, do Trump and Putin still possess such power and wealth, together or individually, that Republican candidates still live in abject fear of them?

R172, if they were smart, they would do just that. Civil war is generally bad for business.

Once again, we are forgetting the kompromat the Russians have with these leeching Pubes. Nothing will make them more determined than saving their own pathetic asses! This is a fight between their political lives and their own livelihood against ridicule and poverty. Gee, which fate do you think they’d choose?

Hills putting her foot dead in dumps ass.

What’s DL’s guess on whether Trump will announce 2024 candidacy soon—as he’s threatened? I think this raid will make him more inclined to run, and I hope he does. That is sure to get Dems to the polls in midterms.

"I'm not a puppet, yer duh puppet"!

What a riposte if devastating intelligence.

Everybody already knows he's running. I doubt he'll announce until the spring.

Hillary Clinton's smartest political move is always silence, yet she rarely chooses it. Thank God she won't be subjecting us to any more campaigns.

I remember people joking about "No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet" and I was thinking, okay, joke all you want, but he really is Putin's puppet and you'll find that out eventually.

People were having a grand old time in Trump's early days, everything was so OMG FUNNY YOU GUYS!!! to people who didn't have the wherewithal to realize that we were actually in a very serious situation.

Try harder, r180. Well, at least you're transparent.

Reducing America to permanent shithole status will not elevate Russher.

Russia is run by trolls. They think taking down a larger, more respected country will put them on even ground.

Also, they want the U.S. devalued so we don't have the power to stop them from being enormous shits on the world stage, like they want to be.

Hey Seniors which I am one. The Democrats passed legislation that will cap prescription drugs to a limit of $2,000 per year, insulin on medicare will be $35 EVERY REPUBLICAN VOTED AGAINST IT !! Why would any senior vote Republican. I was a Republican for 30 years , NOT ANYMORE !!

I want to know more about the "binders of photos"

Why Donald Trump's possible violation of the Espionage Act must be prosecuted

The investigation is intended to get everything involved in this shameful episode round up. He is not smart enough to pull this off on his own, everyone involved is going to get flushed. This is painful but necessary, we as a country will be better for it.

Indeed, r188, but things are going to get very, very messy...

What a fix he's in. He needs to announce he's running for president so he can scream he's a victim of a political witch hunt to prevent him getting elected. But the Republican Party has been paying Trump's legal bills. He's been told as soon as he officially announces he's running for office again the party will stop paying his legal bills. And he's going to need REAL criminal lawyers soon, the expensive kind. He's legendary for not paying his bills. He'll have to put up a fortune in retainers to get any kind of good legal representation now. Imagine how much he's going to hate to actually pay for something.

If Donald announces his candidacy the RNC stops paying his legal bills, and for a man whose fabled wealth is all smoke and mirrors that’s a big risk to take. The kind of lawyers you need to fight federal criminal charges won’t do it for free.

Delicious, isn't it, r190?

MAGA Hari

R172 McConnell got his 6-3 Supreme Court. He and wife Chao are wealthy, so I doubt he cares about the money as much. Amoral people are rarely contrite. Nevertheless, if there’s indeed dirty RNC money from Russia, he’s in the same boat as the rest of the Republicans from receiving illegally-obtained money.

If Trump has blackmail material on Republicans can’t he just threaten to release it if they stop paying his legal bills?

[quote]I was a Republican for 30 years

So after having demonstrated half a lifetime of bad judgment, why would we listen to you about anything?

[quote]And he's going to need REAL criminal lawyers soon, the expensive kind.

Don't look at me; my cash is all tied up in patching up warships and starting a burger chain at the moment.

One finer point I'm wondering about:

[quote]as soon as he officially announces he's running for office again the party will stop paying his legal bills.

Why is that? Is there a legal reason?

Newsweek has turned into a right-wing rag, but if Thom Hartmann cites it ...

R195, Trump should never release all the tapes he has of conservative senators banging rent boys. Not saying he has those things, mind you!

Spy info like nuclear stuff is the kind of thing that can never be declassified.

The January 6th committee showed that Trump's behavior went completely off the rails after he lost the election. He refused to listen to any sane legal advice. Stealing highly classified documents would consistent be with his other lawless behavior.

R185...So you endorsed these assholes for 30 yrs and now reject them because their bad decisions affect YOU! How noble of you.

He stole payroll records for US spies

R199 we should take these leaks with a healthy dose of skepticism, but if that's true the fucker needs to be burned at the stake.

There is no legitimate reason for him to have ever touched those records. None.

R204, if he did, he’s going to prison. That is the lowest of the low. Top Secret/SCI category is defined as potential loss of life if the info gets out. And he could have easily copied the info and sold re is no other reason to have it.

Why else would the Saudis give Jared $2.0B? It wasn’t to get a blowie from Ivanka.

R207, link.

Link yourself, R208.

So every spy and every FBI agent has to live in fear for is life now.

And yet... I still think Donnie will just walk away, like always.

Hell, the link is in R204 - last line of tweet about $2 billion (possible bidding war between Saudis and Putin)

Pretty much, R210. The good thing is that maybe some spy will slip him some plutonium.

The Espionage & Treason are coming from inside the house.

@r206, " if he did, he’s going to prison"

Nah, man, this is firing squad stuff

Bye, Trump...

So if Dump sold the info on the spies, is he eligible for the death penalty?

Eligible, yes. Will it happen, no.

^ Oh, dammit 😠

100% eligible, but keep your hopes realistic.

Right now, if he is formally blocked from running again, we have won. I’ll take it.

We first need that to happen, we can then confidently move to debating prison vs death. There is no way in hell DOJ will pursue death, it will rip us apart. But prison? That actually is a fair compromise, and again, I’ll take it.

Even if they cannot hit him with every charge possible, I’ll take a Capone-style take-down. Javanka needs to go to the clink-clink too, both of them. I doubt Jr or Erik knew even 1/4 of what he was up to, but I am extremely confident it was all orchestrated by Javanka. That explains everything single piece of the puzzle.

Here’s what I want to know. Will they exhume Ivana, was she indeed killed? If yes, then by whom? Or is it who? That grammar rule never sticks in my old brain.

I'll take house arrest - with access to his golf course. Just please NO to 2024.

R215, under the Espionage Act he may have committed a range of death-penalty-eligible offenses.

The problem is that any future Republican President (God forbid) can pardon him, so firing squad 😠

junior will commit suicide.

Remember when Trump brought back the federal death penalty?

Good times.

[quote]Why else would the Saudis give Jared $2.0B? It wasn’t to get a blowie from Ivanka.

I do for haff.

Could we put him in that Brooklyn prison they put Epstein in?

Holy shit! No wonder Garland was visibly angry when he announced the filing with the Court to release the Search Warrant.

Trump deployed (2nd hand, of course) a non-threatening threat.

August 13th, 2022, New York Times final paragraphs of "Trump Lawyer Told Justice Dept. That Classified Material Had Been Returned"

Shortly before Mr. Garland made the announcement, a person close to Mr. Trump reached out to a Justice Department official to pass along a message from the former president to the attorney general. Mr. Trump wanted Mr. Garland to know that he had been checking in with people around the country and found them to be enraged by the search.

“The country is on fire” was the message that Mr. Trump wanted conveyed, according to a person familiar with the exchange. “What can I do to reduce the heat?”

R98, here's an article that discusses Trump's legal fee dilemma with the RNC:

The Republican National Committee has paid some of Trump’s fees related to the New York probe, citing his role as “a leader of our party.” But an RNC official recently told CNN that those payments are expected to end should he become a 2024 candidate, under the party’s “neutrality policy.”

An additional problem for a Trump presidential run:

"As a presidential contender, Trump’s spending would face heightened scrutiny because it is “illegal to convert campaign money to the personal use of the candidate,” said Adav Noti, a former Federal Election Commission lawyer who is senior vice president and legal director of the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center."

Though I'm sure Trump will cheat anyway.

Doesn't anybody carry poison-tipped umbrellas, pens any more?

r177, That's been suggested by foreign press

I think whether he runs will come down to whether RNC caves on paying his legal fees. And whether they cave depends on their assessment of the risk of backing him.

I wonder if some top tier Republicans are getting exclusive access to some of the evidence against Trump to convince them he's not worth the risk.

I flatly predict Trump won't actually run again.

He'll lose. He knows he got his ass handed to him the last time. He's a chicken-shit with no confidence that even though state Repug votes counters will try to hand him a cheated "win", he's too traumatized from the burn of losing to risk it.

Will he drag shit out? Yes. Might he even announce he will run, however, with no intention of seeing it through? Yes. Will he blame the Dems and the DOJ, for not giving him any choice but to drop out? Yes.

One way or another, Trump will not be the Repug nominee to be the POTUS because he doesn't want to be.

He just wants the ill-gotten gains from the grift of saying he's gonna run even if he has to rook every moronic voter of his for all their pennies.

So is the import of R226 that Trump's defense is going to be "I THOUGHT that everything HAD been returned, I HONESTLY did. WHY didn't my people tell me that we still had all those boxes of stuff still down in the storage room, with the beach chairs and the umbrellas!? Why, Dammit?"

IF, as is reported just up above, Shitler had carted away lists of the names and payroll info of CIA operatives, God help him. He WILL go to prison. He IS a fucking traitor to this country. There was never ANY justification for having that material in his possession; who gave it to him and why? A US security expert, who had investigated other officials in the govt prior to Trump, said on CNN this morning that docs marked "CSI" are typically CIA intel, reports on overseas spy activity. Such things were not, in any way, "souvenirs" connected to Donnie S.'s time in the White House. It certainly sounds like SERIOUS criminal stuff, that would only be carried away for ONE purpose: its resale value to outside governmental entities. What other possible explanation could there be?

^And further on this, it would have made more sense, criminally, to have simply photographed the docs with a phone and carried off the pix, but Trump himself is way too lazy and stupid to have spent the time doing such a thing himself; and it would have been beneath him (as President of the fucking United States of America!!). To have instructed ANY flunky to take those pictures would have made any such person HIGHLY suspicious. So Donny just had the shit crated up, telling his flunkies that it was just "office stuff" that he needed for his office down in Maga-Lardo. Simple. It makes PERFECT sense as a criminal undertaking, except the stupid shithead almost certainly did not realize how closely those kinds of papers are registered and watched over. He is always so proud of his own mental "superiority". The stable genius, LOL, LOL, LOL...

Flynn needs to be court martialed.

Does anyone remember that towards the end of Trump's administration he placed a bunch of loyalists in high-level intelligence positions? People at the time wondered why. I guess we may now know--he wanted to use them to gain access to top secret information.

Was he trying to extort Macron?

R233, I actually think as well, that anyone asked to take pics of lists of spies would refuse—even his own rotten family—knowing how serious that crime is and how severe the punishment. He didn’t care, he’s gotten away with the most craven of crimes.

Btw, r233, those types of documents are only allowed to be viewed in special rooms where you can’t bring cell phones. The WH has one of those rooms. I do wonder how he was able to pack that shit up because normally you wouldn’t be able to remove a document from a secure room.

R203.

That is how most people think and make choices.

Upon thinking of my post at r238, I’m guessing that a Dump loyalist was in charge of retrieving classified documents and let Dump leave with them.

R239- With help from Russia? I have always believed that the pos sold us out immediately to Russia, within the first year.

[quote] Remember when Trump brought back the federal death penalty?

No.

If the President asks for documents, the President gets documents.

And then if you're DJT, the ex-president steals them and sells them to the highest bidder.

The FBI and CIA are in Trump’s back pocket. Nothing is going to happen to him. Turn off the cable news you wank over.

Oh my god.

[quote]Garrett Ziegler posted the personal info of purported FBI agents—along with links to one of their kids’ social media accounts.

R238: He *could* have simply had the docs photo'd down at Maga-Lardo, then contritely sent the stuff back to the Govt, as they did with the first sets of boxes. However, as you pointed out, unless he had done the tedious business of taking the pix HIMSELF (which he is FAR too lazy to have done), whoever DID take the photos would have either refused the job or been highly inspired to tell somebody what he was up to. The easy, lazy, way out, was to simply assume that "nobody would miss them." The STUPIDITY of that is breathtaking, I'll tell you. -R233

R244- Not anymore.

@r244, You dumb troll. The FBI already did their part, now it's up to the DOJ to run with the info

R240 - Then that person’s in a shitload of trouble too.

And R239 - Believe it or not, people with a sense of compassion actually think about the effect of their views and behavior on others in deciding how to behave. They don’t need to wait until previous obnoxious behavior slaps them in the ass before suddenly declaring that others shouldn’t engage in it.

Some of us remember when, even before his election, it was reported in mainstream publications that there were unanswered and suspicious questions about communications between Trump Tower and Moscow banks.

And btw, R239, adults eventually learn about other people's experiences, not just their own, and take it into account when making decisions. If you only become outraged at unfairness when it touches you, you're an asshole.

Perhaps Donnie WAS planning on copying or photographing what was seized most recently, he just hadn't gotten around to getting it done yet. He was counting on the fact that the US Govt would treat him with deference, and wouldn't actually "raid" Maga-Lardo to get the docs back. He felt like he could afford to take whatever time it required to finish off "carrying them away" in some other, undocumented form. Garland decided not to give him any more time, thank God.

There is one really really stupid troll on here—congrats DL, we scared them off! Or many they’re tired of defending the indefensible. Here’s one it it’s posts (sorry I don’t know how to do the quote function):

“I don't believe this story. Something is obviously going on, God knows what the truth is.

I certainly don't believe that we have devastating national secrets typed up on pieces of paper, and that those pieces of paper are curated by the National Archives so that they are easily accessible. Not to mention that multiple federal employees would have to know what's on the paper and which papers aren't accounted for. Seems like a pretty elementary security flaw.”

Hey dummy, ALL of the secrets are on paper. They may also be on digital media, but every file is tracked and software is installed so it can’t be copied or printed. And EVERY DOCUMENT is numbered and when signed out, the name is noted with the document number, so yes, the government DOES know who has the document. I worked on classified document and it’s obvious you’re pulling info out of your ass.

Such a negative Nellie, r244...

Poor Don Jr. He tries so hard:

Oh, dear me at a few typos!

Right wing trolls are convinced that all they need to do is repost talking points they saw this morning on 4chan and we’ll all rise up as one and follow them like in an Ayn Rand novel.

FYI

Biden did not decide to "take down" Trump. He did not worry about his legacy or legislative accomplishments being overshadowed by this investigation. This is due to the fact that Biden does not control the Department of Justice, as we have separation of powers.

I smell a subtle attempt at delegitimizing the investigation: Seeds of interference planted now, watered as the process drags on, and plans for an eventual bumper crop of anti-Biden sentiment.

I am again pointing out that the DOJ is not under Presidential control.

Now…back to Ivanka’s burial : reportedly, she was cremated, yet a full sized casket was used for the funeral ceremony - if her cremains were in the casket, didn’t that leave room for LOTS of purloined documents, photos, etc…I’m just asking questions…🙄

@r257, "I am again pointing out that the DOJ is not under Presidential control. "

Except under Trump it pretty much was that's why MAGAts think Biden is behind this

R258, it’s odd to even bury cremated remains, now that you mention it.

[quote]reportedly, she was cremated

Where is there confirmation of that, r258?

So what exactly is in Ivana's coffin besides Ivana?

In fairness, Ivana's burial site could just be related to some tax-related grifting.

Still, the feds should dig up that casket to be sure.

So we started with "Trump stole the nuclear codes" (don't act like there weren't some of you saying this on Wednesday,) then we were downgraded to "nuclear secrets."

Then Trump had a penis pump (is this an actual claim or misunderstood satire?)

Now it's unspecified "classified documents" and he was commiting espionage in some way.

This is somehow a continuation of the January 6th investigations, which it can't be. The January 6th committee was accusing him of seditious conspiracy, not espionage.

Now we are speculating that he buried documents with his wife's body and we seem to seriously want her corpse exhumed.

Tomorrow, I predict, we will be saying she faked her death and is running around commiting espionage with unspecified "classified documents."

None of this is crazy or hysterical, of course. All very normal behavior from educated people.

r259 Yes, it is always projection with them. I know that they know; I'm drawing attention to the narrative for our benefit, even though we all know.

Biden is busy being POTUS. No time for maga.

there are plenty of details out, troll, r264.

some stupid zombie fuck 'tard is latching on the casket.

@r264, Get off our site troll... FF & delete

DIG THAT BITCH UP.

it is totally normal for a billionaire to bury his ex wife in his backyard as if he was burying a family pet.

DIG HER THE FUCK UP.

r264 is also:

[quote]Hillary Clinton's smartest political move is always silence, yet she rarely chooses it. Thank God she won't be subjecting us to any more campaigns.

We really are getting the bottom of the barrel trolls at this point. This is Datalounge for chrissakes...we deserve better!

Holy shit, Trump took the fucking payroll list of US spies???? I… can’t. What is there to say. He needs to be executed. This is absolutely stunning.

And Jared got $2 billion from the Saudis. Would a spy-list be worth that?

why do you think dump STOLE the payroll list of spies?

@r272, I totally agree... Firing squad!

^ For r271

[quote]Now…back to Ivanka’s burial : reportedly, she was cremated,

Let me out! I'm still alive, goddammit! Let me ouuuuuuuut!

[quote] Flynn needs to be executed.

FTFY

To be fair, r264, that is exactly the same trajectory the media has followed over the last week.

Except for the bit about wanting to dig Ivana up. That's all The DataLounge

Isn’t Lady Lindzebelle down in Mar-a-Lago for the weekend? DJT should be feeling frisky with a bounce to his steps.

Totally, not classified!

R264, your lies and mischaracterizations are oddly reassuring. You really have nothing to work with.

[quote] Now…back to Ivanka’s burial

I'm still alive!

I want to see if all of the plastic surgery and injections has turned her into an Incorruptible.

Ivana was found at the bottom of her stairs with trauma to her torso. I see nothing suspicious in that.

Kennedy pissed off the FBI and the CIA.

R264… pathetic attempt to convey GQP talking points. No vodka for you!

Sadly, it looks like you’re the last troll standing. Desperation or stupidity? Both!

R264 is over here clucking our silly theories, but I guarantee he's over on Truth Social and the OAN message boards nodding furiously to garbage like this:

[quote]"It doesn't matter if he have delivered nuclear secrets to the Saudis on a platter next to a cheeseburger... Trump did nothing wrong."

The stupidity - willful stupidity - R287, is astounding. That or they’re just very low intellect. It’s a pity they get to vote, and that their votes have so much weight.

R288, they love his ability to get away with committing crimes. That’s what this is really about. That’s where all of this “owning the libs” was going. At first they thought loved him despite his evil personality. Now they know that’s WHY they loved him.

R285 Dig him up and see what documents are stuffed in his coffin.

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if it tuned out to be…

…20 boxes of Hillary’s emails

Totally hilarious 🙄 🙄 🙄

Cheri Jacobus@CheriJacobus I believe Trump is guilty of espionage and I believe the sentence should be capital punishment.

Wow ^

Gurl??? Did Donnie have vids of you?

CUNT

[quote]Tomorrow, I predict, we will be saying she faked her death and is running around commiting espionage with unspecified "classified documents."

Many people are saying Ivana is alive and carrying JFK Jr.'s baby!

Speaking of CUNTS, this MAGA congresswoman spews verbiage about "transparency and accountability" while defending Trump and slamming the DOJ for doing their job. Because, you know, their job involves investigating the CRIMINAL DONALD TRUMP. In her mind he's a Republican, not a Democrat, so how could he be a criminal?

Has this cunt been brainwashed? Is she mentally ill? What the fuck is wrong with these people?

R298 Change one letter of “cunt” and you have “cult.” That is what this is. They lie because they know they will be believed by some people.

The key to understand how Stefanik went from being so disgusted by Trump that she would refuse to pronounce his name to being the biggest Trumpist in the House of Reps (even before Gym Jordan or Matt Gaetz) is that "she is an individual of “ambition unmoored to principle”. She would do absolutely anything to advance her career. Which means in Trump GOP to rave obsequiously about his performance as a President and repeating that the man could never ever indulge in any crime even if his life would depend on it. 🙄

Here's an article about how she transformed from anti-trump to trump's biggest most obnoxious sycophant. It is behind a paywall but I've noticed that if you interrupt the loading of the page the moment you see it's displayed (by repeatedly pushing the Esc key on your keyboard), the paywall doesn't have the time to load and obstruct and you're free to read the article.

Christopher Bouzy@cbouzy

For his entire presidency, Trump didn't care about intelligence briefings, and he didn't read much of anything. But suddenly, on his way out of the White House, he decided to take a few reading materials that just happened to be classified. But wait, there is more...

Someone informed the FBI about the documents, and the FBI were forced to act. Trump tried to hide the documents, and when he was subpoenaed to return the documents, he ignored the subpoena. Let me repeat that. He tried to hide the documents and ignored a subpoena.

How did the informant know about the documents? Did the informant help Trump take the documents? Did Trump just tell the informant he was in possession of the documents? Did Trump show the informant the documents? Did Trump try to sell the documents to the informant?...

Trump could've argued that the documents were accidentally transported to his home; his people were incompetent. However, the fact he was given multiple opportunities to return the documents demonstrates he knew what he was doing. The DOJ will indict Trump.

^This had occurred to me already, Trump falling asleep during intelligence briefings, refusing to read *anything* about any of it, getting bored, etc., and now it's discovered he's got reams of top secret intelligence material, taken from our own government, stolen on his way out the door and stashed in boxes in his home? He's selling them. It's treason. He MUST be prosecuted. And the government of this country is entitled to a complete accounting of the supposed 2 billion dollars paid to Jared Kushner by Saudi Arabia. What was that money for?

Texas Governor Greg Abbott is trying to hide this photo he took with the Proud Boys leader who just got indicted for Seditious Conspiracy against the United States…

Let’s make sure he can’t keep it hidden.

The insurrection is ongoing. Trump's actions don't need to make sense or have a basis in reality; they're not meant for you. See below:

Bannon is plotting a “precinct strategy” takeover of the electoral infrastructure of the nation—by inserting MAGA supporters in key election oversight positions and by creating chaos where necessary—to ensure Republicans get control of Congress and statehouses in 2022 and of the White House in 2024. From there, the plan is for a re-empowered Trump to assert his authority as never before.

[...]

Bannon used the podcast to rally the troops on January 6, 2021, and he is still doing so—with a disdain for the truth and for democracy that is increasingly embraced by his No. 1 listener. Wherever Trump crosses the line from political buffoonery to protofascism, you’ll find Bannon. Trump has always been the vehicle; Bannon has always been the driver. And now, even as he faces legal scrutiny, Bannon is plotting the trajectory of Trump’s political project and of the party it dominates.

yes, old news.

trump is over.

The ongoing takeover is completely out in the open and you can easily find how many magats have been elected to election roles. Everyone should keep that in mind and read this guide on how we stop them.

According to an analysis by ABC News partner FiveThirtyEight, at least 120 Republican political candidates who deny the integrity of the 2020 elections will be on ballots this fall.

An additional 48 nominees have expressed doubt about the election’s integrity, meaning half of Republican candidates have “at least flirted with” denying the election, according to the FiveThirtyEight analysis.

The ongoing anti-democracy takeover is indeed completely out in the open, but is there any reason to think that Bannon's strategy will be any more successful than his previous ones? He doesn't have the most illustrious track record, and to most Americans (those outside the right-wing core 30% or so) he's toxic.

on the ballot. not elected, fearmonger.

[quote] half of Republican candidates have “at least flirted with” denying the election

I would have though it was closer to 100%, so this makes me *slightly* more optimistic about the Republican party.

Yeah, I'm going to pay attention to a smelly, drug addicted lush like Bannon 🙄

Soooo many Republicans...

Bastshit fuckups and losers. He lost in 2016 and 2020.

^that's a good point; they're reading the room. If the public shrugs and thinks espionage is just for commies or there 's some other Hunter Biden related news they can pick up on, they'll stay silent about this. Also, it's not an unreasonable assumption that there's more to come. Trump seemed like toast after 1/6, but he's more than rebounded with most repigs

The Hunter Biden bs gets an immediate block from me. The Biden presidency is a restoration of democratic values and the standing of this country on the world's stage and its being hamstrung by magats. Meaningful conversation and policy changes for drug addiction could be addressed during this time but the Biden team is busy fighting for democracy. Fighting for democracy? In the US? Again.

Trump is a fat, rancid, decaying noxious gas bag and his time is over. The remainder of his days will be spent tied up in with his ambulance chasing attorney as he desperately tries to avoid a prison sentence. His rabid little cult are bullies just like their repulsive leader. All bullies are spineless cowards. My elderly aunt could beat the living shit out of them. Democrats are armed now and prepared to use them. We will kick their asses back to the trailer parks from which they came. Six fucking years of a Deliverance shit show is enough.

@r314, " Trump seemed like toast after 1/6, but he's more than rebounded with most repigs "

I don't think that's true. Most repigs are slowly backing away from him, except for his crazy Q-Nut core. The shift is towards DeSantis who isn't exactly outraged by the current situation

But he's a man of God and he was sent by God to save us from the brown people and the woke people who are the reason we can't pay our bills.

Did I miss the repudiation of election denial by the GOP somehow, r309?

Just like the mafia thugs they are, the republicans will destroy each other. Just wait for it because they are incapable of not betraying each other. A nest of vipers.

We have to put our focus on voter mobilization. The midterms are always terrible for Dems and how we lose power in Dem presidencies.

Complacency is how we lose.

Defeatist Troll T r321.

R322, how so? Tbh, the midterms are also terrible for Republicans under the same scenario, but the point is that there are way more Democrats in the US, but we don’t vote in the numbers we need to.

^^^ and r321

R323- You are right, we don't. But we had better all vote now or we lose our democracy.

Agreed, r325.

Does anybody think he’ll actually get away with this?

nope

I’m going to guess it’s something to do with Iran. Like maybe Trump stole photos to show the Saudis where Iran’s launch pads are, or documents detailing how far Iran has gone in developing nuclear weapons since the Iran Deal was revoked. Or docs saying Iran was still working towards nuclear warheads even when they had signed agreement not to with Obama administration which “proves I was right.”

New York Times Pitchbot @DougJBalloon Whether it's liberals interrupting a Supreme Court Justice's dessert, or conservatives shooting at FBI agents, both sides have a civility problem.

R330- One of these things is not like the other.

Yes, that's the point, R331.

There were no surprises this week.

In 2016 we were warned by 2 presidents, 3 CIA heads, 50 military/intelligence GOP appointees, and 160 foreign policy experts that #DonaldTrump was dangerously #unfit.

Every Trump voter is guilty of #CivicMalpractice.

How is Hillary Clinton responsible for Benghazi.

Corporate media ran with every right wing talking point including the Benghazi narrative.

Why.

$$$ and viewers. duh

R336

I'm not finding mention of Benghazi in those links, r334/r335

I love money. But living with the threat of nuclear war and an under an authoritarian state isn't worth it.

How is Hillary Clinton responsible for Benghazi.

That still takes me to this, r339. Where is Benghazi mentioned?

[quote]Texas Governor Greg Abbott is trying to hide this photo he took with the Proud Boys leader who just got indicted for Seditious Conspiracy against the United States…

[quote]Let’s make sure he can’t keep it hidden.

Duh and oh dear to me, r339. Sorry.

Dude is a J6 terrorist wearing a T-shirt telling us to remember Benghazi.

He is posing with Governor Abbott.

Why should we remember Benghazi and forget J6?

I got it, I got it, r342. Again sorry. My brain ain't working. I even posted in that thread my go-to counter for Benghazi...Niger.

[quote]It's true the President can declassify documents but there are rules, regulations and a defined process that have to be followed. [bold]He can't just say "I pronounce you declassified" and sprinkle fairy dust and dandruff on them.[/bold]

Awwwww, R8--ya DO miss me! Yet!

When the president does it, it's not illegal!

Armed Trump supporters outside the FBI building in Phoenix

R293 I concur. I'd like to see ALL the Trumps + one (Kushner) fry like fish. Ordinarily, I do not support Capital Punishment, but these are "very special" people, very much deserving special treatment.

Junior Mint just said "My family is the only honest family that has ever been in the White House"... They all deserve to die.

I suppose they are honest in a way R347. They are obviously honestly criminal.

When the Republican president does it, it's not illegal!

Fixed it for ya, Dick.

Are Trump supporting going on a suicide and suicide-by-cop spree?

Because I'd completely support that.

Can you imagine what Trump would have been like during the Cuban Missile Crisis?

A man drove into a barrier near the US Capitol, got out of the car, started firing shots, then killed himself as Capitol Police were about to apprehend him

Do these idiots really think they can intimidate the FBI. Just when I think they couldn't get any dumber. Hey, MAGAts, they have guns that are bigger than yours and they know how to use them

"So I told him 'Kushie--that's what I call Khrushchev, I'm the only one he lets call him that because he really respects me--Kushie, why do you want to store your beautiful missiles in a shithole country like Cuba? I've got some beautiful property just 90 miles away in Florida and you can put all the missiles you want there.' Of course I'm charging him rent, and I'm getting a great deal, but I guess he doesn't realize I'm kind of taking advantage because he was so happy when I made the offer...."

R350 a suitable outcome for all of us

Trump demanded on Truth Social today that the FBI return the docs they took because they're covered by Attorney-Client Privilege and Executive Privilege.

And I'm Marie of Romania.

I know the Nixon references are a joke here, but that spin is getting a test run now:

[quote]Fox host defends Trump’s handling of top secret documents: “President Nixon said, that if the president does it, that it is not illegal. Is that not truly the standard when it comes to classified documents?”

Remind the Fox host what happened to Nixon.

I wonder what privilege - of any kind - he still thinks he has, R356. His followers are morons. Standing outside the FBI with guns. One sniper on their roof could have taken them all out. And should have.

Which is more suitable for a Trump Fry: breadcrumb or batter?

You know they are getting desperate when they start using Nixon as a defense

R358 - remind the Fox host that Trump’s not president. Oh, and that Nixon was also a crook.

A POTUS had to be banned from using a social media platform. POTUS!

This is funny, but notice the goalpost shift: "immediate national security threat."

R356, guilty people never offer one explanation; it’s always a dozen excuses. First, the documents were planted. Then, he took them, but he was confused because he was trying to overthrow the government at the time. Then, he remembered to declassify them even though they were totally taken by accident. Now, they’re “privileged” and he wants them back. A dog ate his homework!

A whole…zero people showed up to the “massive pro-Trump protest” that was supposed to take place outside the FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C. today.

R361, lots of batter. Battered to a pulp and then fried.

Kash Patel? He's dark and hawt, right?

[quote]Which is more suitable for a Trump Fry: breadcrumb or batter?

Crushed Chee-tos.

Russia Ron Johnson says he's not concerned about the confidential information Trump took because "Mar-a-Lago is a pretty safe place."

Maybe the government could rent out some storage rooms at a Motel 6 somewhere for other classified material.

You have to remember that Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by three million votes [in the popular vote] and that Biden beat Trump by seven million votes”

We all remember that but it hasn't stopped the GOP from obstructing our government every chance they get. We're the majority but they're terrorizing officials in every level of government. From public health to election workers and school boards, they're driving us out.

Mobilize and take our country back.

It's not their numbers it's that most are mentally ill and/or on drugs and that manifests into extreme paranoia and violence.

And let's just say, R356, that the funniest thing about that is that Trump thinks Truth Social is a thing.

One of the Trumpers outside the FBI building in Phoenix has a sign saying the FBI should arrest "traitors".....while waving the Confederate flag

Worth hearing if you haven’t heard it prior.

What will Trump order as his last meal before being marched to the electric chair or the gallows? I'm going to go out on a limb and say a steak so well done it rocks on the plate, served with ketchup; Lay's potato chips; diet Coke; and two scoops of vanilla ice cream with hot fudge sauce.

R350- So these idiots think they can take on the FBI and win? Two words: Military drones.

R378, how about covfefe and hamberders?

Dear god, how did someone who grew up with money for chefs and great food grow up with such godawful lowbrow taste in food?

Did Dump and First Whore every use the White House chef? Did they ever host any dignitaries for dinner? I can't recall but the thought is terrifying.

[quote] Do you know how to make an Ethel Rosenberg's ghost?

Yes, but it requires a box of Jell-O.

Doesn’t Trump have a passion for Big Macs &,Quarter Pounders with cheese? And something about chocolate cake?

There was some state dinner where he wanted two scoops of ice cream but everybody else was to get only one? In the first year I think.

I am channeling Trump's last moments (20 second mark).

Okay, he's either a total absentminded fool too preoccupied with his pathetic celebrity to care what's in a bunch of dusty old boxes... Or he's a bitter, vengeful mastermind hoarding secrets he can barter for power and money.

Now it's one of the two!

He’s an opportunist, R387.

it ain't no secret no more! He's probably shown it to everyone! everyone who worked for him has probably seen it!

I hate him soooo much!!!!

" It was the best piece of chocolate cake in the world." " I got two scopes of ice cream because I am the President." He eats at McDonalds everyday because he is paranoid about being poisoned.

"He’s an opportunist"

He's an asshole 😠

"He eats at McDonalds everyday because he is paranoid about being poisoned."

A well founded fear and a great idea 🤔

Anyone on DL own a McDonalds in the Palm Beach area?

R393- Someone could take one for the team for the good of humanity and get a job there. I think we know what needs to be done.

& he enjoys HOs tinkling on his man boobs & big belly.

He really is Fat Bastard come to life.

Lots more stuff coming out! I watch Linda G on YT and provided a link to her latest video. The casket theory seems possible although it has been know for some who are cremated to be enclosed inside a casket for the services. There may be even more material at MaL and his other golf courses (Bedminster - Ivana grave).

Well, bless your heart, R397.

Why would anyone bury documents they want to get rid of? How many fireplaces does Mar a Lago have?

R399 maybe he wanted to hide them to retrieve later, not destroy them. The fact that a nearly empty casket is buried on his property is suspicious. As for burying cremated remains, it’s the Catholic Church’s compromise on allowing cremation.

I just can't believe anyone would stuff a coffin full of documents if they wanted to hide them. There must be better ways. I mean, we know Dump wouldn't do it himself. Did he get the mortician to do it?

R401, of course the coffin stuff is nonsense. Trump would never do anything with that kind of flair.

You don't have to bury Catholic cremains in the ground. My grandmother and several other Catholic relatives of mine are in a mausoleum in Calvary Cemetery in Los Angeles. It was THE place for Catholics to be buried back in the 50's and 60's. The Barrymores, also Catholic, are in the same wall as my grandmother.

It's perfectly acceptable to be put in a mausoleum, rather than in the ground. Trust me, my Italian relatives would have never gone against the Catholic church, and neither would Drew Barrymore's.

Haven't read the whole thread so probably repeating something. But wow in light of Russian news saying they already have this info it brings new meaning to Putin's threats to keep us out of Ukraine.

Vladimir Putin is a murderer, a poisoner, and a war criminal. Whatever he says isn't to be taken seriously.

Interesting first post, R404.

R354 Your version of Trump talking about Khrushchev is so hilariously right-on. It perfectly captures Trump's combination of name-dropping and other forms of self-aggrandizement.

R351 Much as I hate to say it, Trump may have been a deterrent to nuclear war. He is such a psychopath that every leader of a nuclear-empowered country probably felt that Trump could drop nukes as readily as reaching for his next Big Mac.

Any privileges pertaining to the presidency, and any document covered by such privileges, belong to the United States of America, not Donald J. Trump.

R407, Trump was never a deterrent to anything. He groveled at the feet of every authoritarian on the planet. Our allies he treated like crap when he did not outright betray them.

The "we were safer under Trump because he is such a lunatic" narrative is so tiresome.

Strange and completely unconvincing argument

Trump—and all Republicans now—exist only to sow insecurity, unpredictability, and impoverishment to their own profit.

R410, that corny argument goes back to Nixon. When it was obvious that Nixon was crazy, the State Department tried to lemons into lemonade by telling the Russians that he couldn’t be controlled, he might nuke them at any moment, so they had better watch themselves.

R410/R411, right? Who watches Dr. Strangelove and thinks "we'd all be safer if General Ripper were the president!"

Hoodlum 🇺🇸 @NotHoodlum Click your heels together three times and say 'There's no place like the bridal suite at Mar-a-Lago' and you’ll have declassified the documents.

John Bolton's dangerous disregard for the national security threat posed by Donald Trump

So what's the answer, R377? I have no interest in watching a 12 minute youtube video.

(Is it weird I want Glenn Kirschner to do bad things to me, R416?)

R354? Marry me!

But then again, I'm a lesbian.

^ Is your Uhaul already packed?

I always wondered if anyone watched those Glenn Kirschner videos someone obsessively posts. (I always assumed it was Glenn himself.) Nice to know someone gets some worth out of them.

Miz Lindz, must testify in Georgia rules a federal judge.

The vapors!

Uh oh. That judge has The Senatrice's ass in a sling...

...and not the type she usually likes!

A tiktok video explains why this is bad in ways that even the dumps can understand

[QUOTE] I just can't believe anyone would stuff a coffin full of documents if they wanted to hide them. There must be better ways. I mean, we know Dump wouldn't do it himself. Did he get the mortician to do it?

Why is it so hard to believe? A lot of the worst things that Trump had done (or been accused of doing) rely on our own failures of imagination. Think of the worst thing Trump could do, and he’s probably done worse.

Ivana’s coffin would actually be the perfect place to hide documents. It would never be searched and, since she is buried on a Trump property, he has unfettered access to it.

I’m not sure how they could go about issuing a search warrant for a COFFIN, but, hey, we are in batshit crazy times here and I don’t put anything g past these criminals. Yes, even the possibility that Ivana was murdered for this specific reason (that is beyond crazy but I just thought of it).

What? We're just having a little family get-together to check on mom

That would be me, r421. I don't know why you have a problem with it/him, but...whatever.

No offense, Doris. I just have no patience for watching such videos. I'm glad other people appreciate them.

Patience is a virtue, r428.

There is someone who keeps posting a Madison Cawthorne video in multiple threads.

We don’t fucking care! These threads are about Trump’s Mar-a-Lago raid, not some gay in a wheelchair who won’t be back in Congress.

R401- Sounds so low level Mafia, doesn't it? I can totally believe he would do just that.

From *March*, r430.

Can a bank repossess a property that has someone buried on it?

This whole saga makes Advise and Consent look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook farm

I saw on the news that they are using video CCTV to see where the documents were taken from etc and who took them etc.

Beloved DL villainess Laura Ingraham is dumping Trump.

he claims FBI stole his 3 passports...fucking BS.

those passports are probably expired and useless!

@r436, My that's mighty white of the assholes at Fox News to recommend that Trump tone down the rhetoric. God I hope somewhere along the line Trump gets mad enough to take down these assholes along with everyone else

The passports have been returned to Fatso, bitches.

I can’t find my socks! The damned FBI stole them!

I'm waiting for Trump to find a spec of dirt on the carpet left by the FBI and try to bill the DOJ for millions in cleaning and repairs 🙄

If you are not outraged at the materials found at Mar-a-Lago then you are just not smart enough to understand the situation. Everyone in the chain of custody should go to prison for this. Some items found broke the law by just being outside of a SCIF.

I agree R442, he cannot hold public office EVER again!!!!

He fucking stole all the secrets!!!!

Why would Trump think he had to respect the rules regarding a SCIF when he saw so many Republicans not have any consequences for breaking the rules themselves publicly.

One thing that Trump has to "plea bargain" with is promising never to run for office again.

I'm not saying I think he should get off scot-free, which is funny because he's half scottish! uh, maybe not funny. Nothing about this mess is funny but I personally would settle for avoiding Trump's second term as president. I'd give up a LOT for that guarantee. ymmv

Oh and it would have to be a legal judgment, disqualifying him from running for anything - not just his word, which is worth nothing.

R446- I would happily settle for that at this point. It would be worth the relief of never having to worry about him in a position of power again as far as I am concerned.

Obviously he was planning to pass that stuff to Putin. Duh.

Maybe he already has.

I still want to know why the Saudis paid Jared Kushner $2 billion

R450- You just know that fat fuck Daddy Shitler got a sizable cut of that money. That is how the mafia does business.

They paid him for the middle east "peace" deal he struck.

NoelCaslerComedy@caslernoel

It’s bizarre to watch the GOP turn on Liz Cheney on behalf of a man who was a registered Democrat until 2008 & had Bill & Hillary Clinton at his third wedding.

Extra ironic since her father VP Dick Cheney helped engineer 2 wars on behalf of the Oil & Gas industry & Halliburton/KBR while ushering-in the mindless jingoism and cartoonish screaming eagle toxically masculine ‘patriotism’ they now exploit in the likes of Dan Crenshaw, et al.

I’m holding out for a permanent disqualification from holding office for him and all co-conspirators and a written and verbal full confession including all of the details of all illegal activities.

of course he wants it unsealed. He wants to know who ratted him out!

I think Jared ratted him out. Got scared of ending up in jail like his father.

Nosferatu and the daughter whore, I bet.

^and he wants to know what they've got on him so he can start a counter defense ("oh I talked about the president of France! Big deal! He's a short guy anyway married to some old hag #shortguyssuck!) and get his flying monkeys (the repig party) on board. But Garland's caution in moving against Trump in the first place demonstrates he's slow & methodical (maybe to an infuriating degree) to ensure whatever he brings forward is rock solid

Available in many colors.

He's trying to throw Mark Meadows under the bus

R460- And so the blood bath begins. But it doesn't help him because he was the one in possession of the documents, right? They were stored on his property and he allowed others to read them.

R461, it’s just one fantasy after another. No, of course it does nothing for him: he’s the one who refused to return the documents.

@r460, Now the fun begins. Everyday Trump will blame someone else and all those someone elses will flip on Trump and the MAGAt world will go berserk not knowing who to hate... And I'm here for it 🍿

r463

Why on earth would you have R463 blocked, R464?

R465, he posts nonsense all over the DL.

Yeah, r464, why did you block me? 😢

@r466, We can't all be mental midgets like you 😠

R351 Okay that’s a truly terrifying scenario. I literally gasped out loud when I read it!

More to the point, why would you block people because they "post nonsense" and then do the R# thing to find out what they post?

[QUOTE] R465, he posts nonsense all over the DL.

Let’s see the receipts, honey.

If he only posts nonsense, why are you trying to see his posts? Clearly, you “can’t quit him” if you’re blocking posters and then resurrecting their comments because your block has made them invisible.

Ah, the intense and aggressive "defenders"/sock puppets.

Classic troll tactic.

^ Aw, keep telling yourself that, frau Karen

I hope you aren’t referring to me, R472. I’m not the poster you blocked and really have no skin in this game.

It’s just annoying when people waste space by doing the “R-Poster I’ve Blocked” thing. It’s tedious.

@r472, Why did you "WW" your own post? Are you that thirsty for approval?

r475

^ Hahahahaha! You can't live without me, can you?

r477

^ 😂😂 ^

Your turn, I see you already "WW" your own post

r480

Mnuchin raised 2.5 billion for his investment fund. Largely in the Middle East. Jared got 1.1 billion from the Qataris, on top of the 2 billion from Prince MBS. Where is DONALD'S KICKBACK???

A troll is ruining this thread. Hmmm…I wonder why….

Hey not to interrupt the tiresome troll attempt to get this thread greyed out, but…

Do we think the folks in the binder are cutting deals with the FBI now that the Feds own the blackmail material and not TFG?

I don’t think we are talking enough about the possibility that the DOJ now potentially has reams of Kompromat on up to two thirds of the Republican Party.

How does that even work with the FBI? Blackmail is a crime. Will they disclose who was blackmailed? What they were blackmailed with? Or will they just quietly destroy the information and let the cowardly victims know they are free of their tormentor?

^ You bet those Republican cowards are falling all over themselves to tell what they know. If Garland played it like this he is brilliant

If it was really good kompromat, I bet Donnie made photo-copies. Remember when he would stop the briefing when something got his attention?

Although he's also lazy so unless it was told to him, he (or somebody) would have to go through all those boxes - but then, he knew which ones to turn over to the FBI and which to hold back, so someone must have categorized it for him?

^ Of course, that's going to be the interesting part. Someone categorized and kept tabs on all those files and they're in just as much trouble as Trump. Watch for those who go on vacation and never return

F.B.I. Interviewed Top White House Lawyers About Missing Trump Documents By Maggie Haberman Aug. 16, 2022

Pat A. Cipollone and Patrick F. Philbin, the White House counsel and his deputy under President Donald J. Trump, were interviewed by the F.B.I. in connection with boxes of sensitive documents that were stored at Mr. Trump’s residence in Florida after he left office, three people familiar with the matter said.

Mr. Cipollone and Mr. Philbin are the most senior people who worked for Mr. Trump who are known to have been interviewed by investigators after the National Archives referred the matter to the Justice Department this year. The interviews are a sign of the intensity of the investigation into how sensitive government material left the White House with Mr. Trump and remained at his Palm Beach, Fla., residence, Mar-a-Lago, for more than a year.

Mr. Philbin was interviewed in the spring, according to two of the people familiar with the matter, as investigators reached out to members of Mr. Trump’s circle to find out how 15 boxes of material — some of it marked as classified — made its way to Mar-a-Lago. It was unclear when Mr. Cipollone was interviewed.

Mr. Cipollone and Mr. Philbin were two of Mr. Trump’s representatives to deal with the National Archives; they were named to the positions shortly before the president’s term ended, in January 2021. Another was Mark Meadows, the former White House chief of staff.

At some point after National Archives officials realized they did not have Trump White House documents, which are required to be preserved under the Presidential Records Act, they contacted Mr. Philbin for help returning them.

A spokesperson for Mr. Philbin did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Philbin tried to help the National Archives retrieve the material, two of the people familiar with the discussions said. But the former president repeatedly resisted entreaties from his advisers.

“

It’s not theirs, it’s mine,” several advisers say Mr. Trump told them.

Among the items in the boxes packed up from the White House residence as Mr. Trump was departing was Mr. Trump’s correspondence with the North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un, as well as a letter to Mr. Trump from former President Barack Obama when Mr. Obama departed the White House.

But there were also a variety of other documents that traveled to Mar-a-Lago.

The former president returned 15 boxes of material to the National Archives in January, but the Justice Department issued a subpoena in May for documents that it believed were still at his club. On June 3, counterintelligence officials with the Justice Department’s national security division went to Mar-a-Lago to collect remaining documents with classified markings.

Evan Corcoran, a lawyer for Mr. Trump who was said to have suggested that the former president resolve the matter with the Justice Department, went through the material, which was kept in boxes in a storage area in the basement, before that meeting, according to people familiar with the move. It was unclear if he was the only one to do so.

At that point, at least one Trump lawyer signed a statement saying material with the classified markings had been returned, according to four people familiar with the document, although it was not clear specifically what the statement attested to. The two lawyers on site for the meeting who worked with Mr. Trump were Mr. Corcoran and Christina Bobb.

But officials then used a subpoena to obtain surveillance footage of the hallway outside a storage room at Mar-a-Lago and saw something that alarmed them. They also received information from at least one witness who indicated that more material might remain at the residence, people familiar with the investigation said.

Mr. Philbin is among eight people who work or used to work for Mr. Trump who have been contacted by the F.B.I. since a grand jury was formed this year. Investigators also interviewed Derek Lyons, a former White House staff secretary.

Mr. Lyons’s last day at the White House was Dec. 18, 2020, meaning he did not know how the last boxes were packed as Mr. Trump prepared to leave. But he had information about paper flow in the White House and how the former president handled material.

The F.B.I. has reached out to about a half-dozen people who currently work for Mr. Trump and who might know what documents he may still have in his possession.

Shitler is apparently being told "NO" by the better-qualified defense attorneys he is DESPERATE to hire right now. This is wonderful news.

It’s not just that they have morals (which is iffy), it’s that they prefer clients who actually pay their bills.

They also prefer clients who do as they’re told and keep their mouths shut.

I hope he gets assigned a public defender.

^They would get paid in advance, R491, most assuredly. I am sure that it has more to do with the fact that they know what a sleazebag he is, and a nonstop liar who CAN'T tell the truth. Such people are very hard to work with in the law. And as R482 just said, their prospective client is so impulsive, and always "knows best", which makes him uncontrollable (for his own good). Legally speaking, it looks like Donnie is toast right now.

It's about more than the money. If a lawyer wants off a case in the middle of a trial, it has to be given the OK by the judge. There's no guarantee and even if they aren't being paid the judge can force them to stay on the case.

"It’s not theirs, it’s mine,”

^That's admission of a serious crime, right there, intentional retention of top secret US documents. Shitler can't keep his mouth shut. He's fucked.

^ Lawrence O'Donnell on this:

Those documents belong to the tax paying citizens of this country. We payed for the intelligence but only personnel with security clearances have a right to access the information.

During the campaign of 2016, dump was up on stage bragging he does not pay taxes because he's smart.

So no, these documents don't belong to a private citizen who won't or can't pay his share of taxes.

Why does a private citizen need access to the payroll records of gov agents.

Think carefully before responding.

Tax cheats belong in prison not on stage as viable presidential candidates.

He’s like a rabid dog or Michael Myers. The only way out of this is for him to be put down.

I keep hoping we’ll all wake up one day to learn that he had a massive coronary event and died in his sleep.

Dump needed to be flushed a long time ago.

When he was on stage confessing to be a tax cheat, that was the time to arrest and incarcerate him.

A tax cheat with no previous public or military service did not belong on stage with a candidate who has served 8 years as a Senator and 4 as Secretary of State.

His candidacy and his term in office disgraced us all.

He is on tape for many illegal acts. But nothing ever happens besides some civil settlements.

"Nothing ever happens to daddy dump" = a sexual kink for magats who worship lawlessness and HATE America.

"Trump has contacted 14 of the nation's best criminal defense lawyers in the past week. Every single one has declined to represent him. No to former president, an "alleged" billionaire. Let that sink in."

He’s probably a billionaire for the first time, since his bagman Jared Kushner went around to the Saudis and others to pick up the money they got for handing over top secret documents.

It seems to never occurred to anyone that maybe the billions Kushner received weren’t for himself alone. Maybe he had to pay a commission to the man who made it all possible.

This is proof that rich people are not smart, they are crooks and tax cheaters. This also proves that any rich jackass can buy their way into a Harvard education. Many previously, long-held assumptions about the rich and elite have been proven now as full of shit! I have NO respect for their kind and even less respect for Harvard and other so-called Ivy schools. What a crock of SHIT! Fuck them. Harvard would have to PAY ME to go to their crooks university. What a shame. You to U Penn!

^ I think we've known this since the old "Robber Baron" days and then the rich get reeled in somewhat then the cycle repeats. Nothing ever changes for long 😠

Giuliani can defend him lol

I imagine they had to fumigate the court after his hours of testimony. 🤢

When I sued Trump for defamation, he had my email hacked. He had the law firm doing his transition try to confirm a piece of info from my hacked email he thought would help him force a judge to change the venue, meaning I couldn't sue him in NY, wld have to start over in MD. 1/13

I'd given up my apt and was staying with a friend in NYC when not in MD helping care for my sick father. It took 6 weeks to get a new apt I would be sharing with a friend. Info from my hacked email would only show I'd left the one apt. I got new email after the hacking. 2/13 The FBI latched onto this: Someone high up enough in Trump world with authority to pay and instruct Holland & Knight to confirm my whereabouts had them do so, obv not telling them it was info in my hacked email they thought they could use against me 3/13 A non-lawyer woman there handles crisis comms and "investigations" for rich, famous people being sued for libel/defamation. I knew her 30 years earlier and she contacts me out of the blue. ALL she was interested in was where I was living, twisting herself in knots to find out

That’s proof that he worked with Julien Assange and Wikileaks for years - even prior to 2016. I wonder if Putin/ Wikileaks did in fact retrieve Hillary’s emails. I’m not sure they can hack a private server, but then it could be Hill’s knew she was being hacked and resorted to this measure to prevent it. Fascinating.

The way Trump micro-manages his revenge on people I don't know how he keeps up with it all? @r512/r513, that's a lot to unravel. With so many players in so many investigations, I just can't sort it all out

bottom line, r515. he didn't do any of this all on his own. The bit about a former colleague popping up "to reconnect" after 3 decades made me laugh. That type of bullshit is why the block feature makes life so much more manageable.

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crack is wack

^ You need crack to understand Trumpworld

R517, that looks like something that would be scrawled on the walls of a room of a mental hospital

He is part of the mafia.

Khashoggi was about to bust Jared for selling nuclear secrets sounds about right

That pic at R517 looks like Hypergraphia, which is associated with mental illness or psychosis, or Provigil abuse.

^Diagram article is over ONE YEAR old, notice.

We can only hope Putin has in fact signed off on Shitler. I hope he now truly believes he is a “putz” and has no further use of him and throws Shitler under the bus. The only reason why Shitler kissed Putin’s ass is because he PAID through his nose to prop him up for YS President. Now, Shitker’sshit is hitting the fan and Pootie can no longer get fuck-up-US mileage from him. Think about it.

^ I don't think this works, for one obvious reason. Shitler, it should be evident, owes Vladdy a shit-ton of money. If Donnie's servile demeanor, lowered head in Pootie's presence, etc., didn't make that clear to you, I don't know what would. Donnie is Putin's plaything, somehow or another, and Putin won't "give up" on him until he's bled that stinking rotten greaseball DRY.

I would if I could read it.

Well than why did Pootie publicly call Shitler a putz?

Putin speaks Yiddish? I had him pegged as one of the top Anti-semites in the world, frankly.

Also, once the US legal system wrings every cent from Shitler’s estate, how could he possibly repay any of Pootie’s debt? Think about it.

Counting the chickens before they hatch, my friend. You know that.

^^Russian troll^^^

No American would call a fellow poster “my friend”. You gave away your Russian troll ass right there. BLOCKED!

BLOCK PARTY!

Also, if you really were an American, R532, you would know that it’s count YOUR chickens, not THE chickens.

These little slip-ups are what out you and others as a foreign trolls. You’ll never master American English.

*as foreign trolls

^Mentally ill.

^^Fat, ugly, Russian, and poor

R533. Thank you! Let’s shut this pimpled-ass Russian troll’s ass down! What an asshole! GFYS greatly, shitfuck!

Boris is famous for getting his phrasing and syntax all wrong, makes him pretty easy to spot

Sssshh, let's not give away any of our philological secrets to the Russian troll!

OH BORIS? YOO-HOO, BORIS! "COUNT THE CHICKENS" IS PERFECTLY GOOD ENGLISH! USE THE DEFINITE ARTICLE ANY WAY YOU LIKE, мой друг!

Boris once referred to gay men as "dolls" and another time he called them "sisters". His translator must have messed up "queens" and "sissy"

Ha!!!!!!

NEW: Unsealed Trump Mar-a-Lago search warrant application cover sheet offers the DOJ’s description of potential crimes:

— Wilful retention of national defense information — Concealment or removal of govt records — Obstruction of federal investigation

^ It's all a lie!!! He was framed!!!

[quote]You’ll never master American English.

Something they have in common with the former First Lady.

@r543, " It's all a lie!!! He was framed!!! "

Yes, I'd say it's suitable for framing

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^ Oh, bullshit! 😠

@r546, "Rasmussen Reports asked 1000 lively voters if they agreed with Roger Stone's claim that the FBI had become President Joe Biden's 'personal Gestapo'"

Rasmussen Reports is a far right polling group that gets it wrong every single time...

They gave us all shots of whiskey!

Poor little MAGA foot soldier @R546.

What the hell is a "lively voter"? So, they polled barely living Republicans who watch Fox news would be my guess

The link at R546 is the second Daily Mail article I ran across today that has far right bias. I thought they were just a supermarket gossip tabloid. Is it owned by Rupert Murdoch?

What's a "lively voter"? Are they doing a conga line?

What is the purpose of MAGA tards like R546 posting on a site like DL? Does he/she/IT actually think they’re converting gay Democratic voters?

I am r546, r554, and because my comment was essentially deleted for the new crime of linking to the Daily Mail, you missed that I said that apparently, 53% of US voters are extremely dense and deplorable.

Muriel now making the DM one of the comment-deleting links is stupid, because the DM is usually first to a the story on a lot of breaking news. It also has people like r554 spinning themselves into a fury because they cannot read the accompanying commentary of the poster.

Noted, R546. I apologize if I misinterpreted your intentions. The Daily Fail is a right-wing rag and it’s not “new” that Muriel tags it with that canned verbiage. If you think that’s a new development, you yourself are new here and brand-new posters are often trolls.

I’m not “spinning myself into a fury.” I’m voicing a very legitimate concern about the troll infestation on this site.

Don’t be a fucking bitch.

^That should read R 555, obviously.

[quote]The Daily Fail is a right-wing rag and it’s not “new” that Muriel tags it with that canned verbiage. If you think that’s a new development, you yourself are new here and brand-new posters are often trolls.

It's never been tagged for me until today. The Independent has long been tagged, though.

r556 Daily Mail links were fine until literally TODAY.

Until today only the Independent was treated like that.

And fuck you, First of all, I have been here for over 20 years. Secondly, you owe me an apology and you weaseled out of giving one, although you acknowleged you were WRONG.

Die in a fucking grease fire, r556.

who the hell owes anyone anything on an anon message board? grow up, eldergay!

Girls, girls! You're both cunts.

I often link to the Fail for gossipy tidbits, but I'll refrain from this point forward

Leave it to DL to effectively ban the second most visited news site in the world.

[quote]Leave it to DL to effectively ban the second most visited news site in the world.

Yes dear, we know. Tits and racism sell like hotcakes in the UK as well as the US. Doesn't mean we need to get carpet-bombed with it.

The New York Times is dead to me.

Why?

[quote]So a friend of mine who gets very good info told me hours before we found out publicly that there were high level top secret docs seized at Mar-A-Lago that one of the set of documents is so incredibly sensitive and top secret that they are at “codeword” level, which is insane.

I created a new thread once this is filled.

Recent reporting seems to be speculating that this is more insane but less insidious that it first appeared.

Meaning that Trump took the documents as a way of saying "fuck you" to everyone in authority, on his team and ours, and to all the people who told him he could not rip up papers and flush them down the toilet

That he did not give them back because he did not want to give them back because he liked having them and wanted to keep them to show off to people he wanted to impress.

That he currently had no nefarious plans to sell them or trade them--he just wantedto have them because someone told him he could not have them and no one tells Donald Trump what to do!!!

That despite numerous lawyers telling him he needed to return the docs to the National Archives, Trump decided he did not need to because they were really his documents and the lawyers clearly did not know what they were doing and/or were not fighting hard enough.

So essentially Trump acting like a spoiled toddler whose Mommy wants to take away one of the toys he is playing with because it belongs to someone else and Trump does not want to give the toy to Mommy

R569, one of Trump’s lawyers wrote that Trump had given all the documents back in June. He’s lucky if he doesn’t get disbarred. I guess Trump wouldn’t care about that, but I’m pretty sure the lawyer wouldn’t have said they were all returned if he knew they weren’t. Trump just threw his own lawyer under the bus.

Who knows what Trump’s real reasons were, I can believe he wanted to show them off, but I still think he sold them. I think the price would be a lot less if Putin and MBS knew Trump was waving them around at golf caddies at Mar a Lago.

R569, I believe you are referring to MAGA Haberman's recent article "speculating" on Trump's motivation, which is really a poorly disguised spin piece directly from team Trump.

The FBI/DOJ has him dead to rights on committing multiple crimes, so all they have left if insisting that he's just a big toddler who didn't mean to do anything really bad.

This shit makes Strangelove look pretty mild - there's a whole gang of off-the-rails people around Trump the Cult leader. And an entire Republican party afraid of him and his base. The country's getting close to Clockwork Orange level, but with a whole lot more crazed Magats than just Malcolm MacDowell's Alex and his few Droogs.

R569, so that’s what it’s come to — the “don’t worry, he’s just an idiot” defense? He broke the law. He knew what he was doing.

R571, I think this is a replay of Melanie’s “it’s just locker room talk” claim. In reality, of course, Trump was a rapist.

Why did Jared get $2 billion from the Saudis? What did they get for that?

Even if I believed the Trump selfish baby spin (which I don’t) I definitely don’t trust the snakes in his orbit who would without hesitation use the material for nefarious purposes. You can bet Jared, Bannon, Ghouliani and the gang were all helping direct what files and documents were worth relocating

R575 I know this has been posted many times, but to me this is such a fucking important question. They bailed him out! They got two billion dollars worth of something!

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You guys are placing way too much faith in how this news is being reported. We are so manipulated by the media who are more and more often owned by people who have a vested interest in Republicans being in power to hand out those tax breaks.

Every single thing he's done is so much worse than the stories that are being fabricated right now.

[quote]wanted to keep them to show off to people he wanted to impress.

How is that not "insidious" or "nefarious"?

It's more "pathetic" than either of those, r582

Hartman belongs in prison

George Conway🌻 @gtconway3d Sometimes the most obvious thing is the easiest to overlook. So repeat over and over:

Trump STOLE the docs.

Trump STOLE the docs.

Trump STOLE the docs.

Trump STOLE the docs.

Trump STOLE the docs.

Trump STOLE the docs.

Trump STOLE the docs.

Trump STOLE the docs.

Let’s be clear: the creepy billionaire interests behind the massive dark-money machine would rather hold power in the smoking ruins of American democracy than live in a healthy democracy where they can’t sell their terrible ideas to a public that doesn’t want them.

I don't trust the NYT's Haberman or her little buddy Michael Schmidt with anything. The Trumps used them during the Russia investigation to leak things bit-by-bit so when the actual report came out everyone just shrugged because they'd already leaked the most damning parts a year earlier.

Now they're doing it again with the stolen documents scandal. A Trump family member calls Haberman, she writes them up as a "senior official" or "former member of Trump's cabinet" and types up whatever they feed her. She'll launder every excuse and every lie for them.

Donald didn't keep this stuff just for shits and giggles or because he's an idiot who can't keep track of paperwork. He was selling our secrets.

Anyone who trusts Haberman at this point hasn't been paying attention. This latest narrative of trying to paint Trump as little more than a petulant child not wanting to share his toys is absurd.

Yes, he IS a petulant child, but he's also a lifelong criminal.

Haberman shares the same fate of all traitors. Garbage gets tossed.

This is the kind of solid reporting you’ll never get from Haberman, who basically covers Trump’s personality, which is a mystery to no one at this point.

That is equal parts appalling, infuriating and terrifying, r590

NYT Breaking News: The Justice Department is said to have retrieved more than 300 documents with classified markings from Donald Trump since January.

BITCH THEY ARE NOT YOURS TO KEEP

Shocking. Another big story about what the Feds found filtered through Maggie Haberman. I wonder who her sources could be.

R594, but this one is very incriminating. Haberman’s approach is always to work both sides if the street—even if one story (this one) destroys the prior one (about how Trump is just a big baby).

Haberman belongs behind bars with her best client

Why does she belong behind bars? I avoid the NYT these days, but I never read her even when I subscribed.

for this bs

Michael Cohen believes Trump was going to use the top secret documents to “extort” America. They were his “get out of jail free card”. His plan was to release the documents “to Iran, to China, to North Korea, to Russia” if Trump was threatened with jail time.

Maggie Haberman, the Trump “normalizer”