DL Brits: Is there any level of pushback to Rishi Sunak because he is Indian?
Given the Conservative party and all, are people, especially older people, looking at him and thinking "Bloody Wog!"
He seems to have some strong ties to India via his wife of the sort that would sink an American politician
I have not seen mention of the fact that he is Indian and that he would be an historic choice for PM as a result, though it is possible I am not reading the right publications for that.
What gives?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 202 | September 13, 2022 7:18 PM
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His wife doesn’t pay UK tax and he has US green card apparently. Plus he stabbed Boris in the back. People don’t like that.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 27, 2022 12:31 PM
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Why do you ask? British racists? How could that ever be?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 2 | July 27, 2022 12:32 PM
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His race isn't an issue for the vast majority of people.
Besides a small fringe, British people are more toxically obsessed with class than race. Race can take on class dimensions of course. Indians generally are seen as respectable and middle class, and are not seen as alien or threatening.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 27, 2022 12:33 PM
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I dunno… Brexit… Johnson… are we really looking for people from the UK to make rational choices?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 27, 2022 12:33 PM
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"He seems to have some strong ties to India via his wife of the sort that would sink an American politician "
Are you kidding? American politicians can be full fledged Nazis with little or no push back
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 27, 2022 12:33 PM
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Lots of Nazi emblems and flags flying around Florida this past weekend for their rally, R5.
These people are fucking filth and a scourge upon our nation.
This is how it begins.
Americans haven’t learned shit from history.
I heard Viktor Orbán is a speaker in Texas’ CPAC!
WTF is our country going?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 6 | July 27, 2022 1:00 PM
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Another Young leader from the WEF, another Klaus Schwab puppet, just like Boris.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 27, 2022 1:06 PM
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This is why the conservative membership vote is likely to go to his opponent, despite his lead among MPs and peers. The white woman will win.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 27, 2022 1:59 PM
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My relatives in the UK are mad racist. I asked them what they thought and they said "a bloody sand ni&&er should not be in charge of a white country."
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 27, 2022 2:06 PM
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[quote] My relatives in the UK are mad racist. I asked them what they thought and they said "a bloody sand ni&&er should not be in charge of a white country."
Uh, no R10. Your UK relatives would call an Arab a "sand nigger", not an Asian.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 27, 2022 2:18 PM
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I hate to break it to you, R10, but no-one in the UK uses that particular term, least of all for an Indian.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 27, 2022 2:24 PM
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Lol r10 just making things up to get aghast responses he can jerk off to. Dumbass.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 27, 2022 2:29 PM
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From what I've seen the questions come as to whether he is actually committed to Great Britain, given his wife's green card status in America, as well as a "he's not native and his people are not native" coded racism.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 27, 2022 2:31 PM
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If say, Julian Castro was married to Carlos Slim's daughter (Slim is the richest man in Mexico) and she had dual citizenship in Mexico and Spain, that would definitely count against him with US voters across the political spectrum.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 27, 2022 2:41 PM
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MY relatives are dead common. They called him a paki bastard too...I corrected them twice but it does not matter, I did not make it up. They are from Essex as in TOWIE level Essex.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 27, 2022 2:52 PM
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Nothing that I've seen at all but then I don't read any racist papers/sites/social media profiles.
Oh and we don't use the 'W' word, even when it was used, it was in reference to Black people and has rightly been consigned to the dustbin of history where it belongs.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 27, 2022 2:52 PM
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Rishi smacks of a man who is less concerned with government service and more interested in how a stint as PM will help his future earning power-- Much like BoJo and Blair
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 27, 2022 2:54 PM
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His wife skips paying taxes in the UK doesn't she? Her father is one of the richest men in India apparently. No wonder she doesn't want to pay taxes. Anywhere.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 27, 2022 2:57 PM
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I imagine it'd be an issue at the Tory party conference since their membership is principally older white and Jerusalem singing. But no its his past as chancellor and corruption ties that count against him for the majority of the population. Doubt it matters though. Liz Truss is almost certain to win after she managed to look human for 30 seconds after Kate Mcann fainted in front of her... God help us all.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 27, 2022 3:02 PM
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If there's one thing British people hate, it's tax cheats.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 27, 2022 3:09 PM
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We don;t sure the "N" word either, Except of course the people who do R17
And I have heard Brits refer to Indians as "wogs" a category that seemed for many of them, to encompass all non-Northern Europeans.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 27, 2022 3:40 PM
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OK R22, I don't know who you've been hanging out with but I have never in my life heard that word used to refer to that nationality. I can't say it never happens if you have heard it yourself, but I've never heard of it. It was used as a word for Black people based on 'Golliwog' which is also no longer used. Except by racists.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 27, 2022 4:16 PM
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I have heard them use wogs too. I will admit my relatives in Essex are terrible people with a myopic world view. They loved Trump, hated Obama, and think Biden is a child molester fro some reason.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | July 27, 2022 4:19 PM
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R18 his wife is a billionaire. I doubt he’s doing it to get on the speech circuit.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | July 27, 2022 4:21 PM
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The only time in my life I've ever heard wogs used was by the major in Fawlty Towers.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | July 27, 2022 4:30 PM
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[quote] If there's one thing British people hate, it's tax cheats.
But if there's one thing Britain is good at, it cheating at taxes.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | July 27, 2022 4:38 PM
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I love Rishi to pieces but he doesn’t have the range!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | July 27, 2022 6:33 PM
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There definitely is a racist element among the Tory scum. Interestingly, Sunak polls better with the public but it seems the Tories want Truss —who I frankly DON’T truss. She has a bad vibe. But then, maybe with Truss in power the Tories will finally be voted out. One can but hope.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 27, 2022 6:50 PM
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Is he short? He looks short. Then again I think Boris was short too.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 27, 2022 6:52 PM
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Truss is a dirty slut who cheated on her husband. I think she’ll be great fun as PM. I wonder if she gave BoJo some puss, just to say she’s done it? Only truly worrisome skeleton in her closet is the paternity question hanging over her daughters’ heads. They sure don’t look like their “dad.”
by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 27, 2022 6:53 PM
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Does Rishi have "sparkly eyes?"
by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 27, 2022 6:56 PM
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... like Christmas morning
by Anonymous | reply 33 | July 27, 2022 8:10 PM
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Tory voters would love to revivify Thatcher’s corpse. They will have to do with Liz Truss. Nobody will admit it but Sunak’s race will be considered problematic by the old school Tories.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | July 27, 2022 8:36 PM
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As an American, I'm grimly amused to see that the Brits also have utterly terrible choices for their leaders, just like us.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | July 27, 2022 8:41 PM
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Its a huge issue that hes Indian amongst Brits, as many people feel that the UK is already being colonised by Indians and in many areas of the UK the British are in the minority. But no one is allowed to voice concerns over this as the R word is used as a cosh to gag any discussion. Also many more Indians entering the UK Parliament which also worries Brits as Indians look after their own and are not generally trusted.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | July 27, 2022 8:51 PM
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Indians have discovered America and are heading there now not Europe......Boy your in for some fun!
by Anonymous | reply 37 | July 27, 2022 8:55 PM
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He has an Indian passport a British passport and an American green card....whats the problem?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | July 27, 2022 9:01 PM
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R24 No-one in the entirety of Essex has enough knowledge of American politics to hold any opinion of any of those people. You're not convincing anybody.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | July 27, 2022 9:03 PM
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R36 You don't know anything about the UK.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | July 27, 2022 9:04 PM
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R41 Well I was born here and have lived here for most of my life, so yes.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | July 27, 2022 9:08 PM
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Nigel Farage is the only Brit left who doesn't love a curry.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | July 27, 2022 9:10 PM
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Nigel loves a Beer and a Curry.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | July 27, 2022 9:11 PM
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[quote] Rishi smacks of a man who is less concerned with government service and more interested in how a stint as PM will help his future earning power-- Much like BoJo and Blair
No, r18, one thing Sunak never, ever has to worry about is how much he earns. His wife has a fortune of £730 million pounds, and stands to inherit billions.
And therein lies the problem for his leadership ambitions. The next Prime Minister has to get to grips with inflation, a probable recession and a huge covid-related national debt. It’s going to be difficult for him to lecture the public about the need for frugality, cutting services and tightening our belts.
The majority of Conservative members would love to have the first PM from an Asian background be a Conservative. In their own strange way they love that kind of virtue signalling, it would give them a nice talking point every time their brutality towards asylum seekers makes the news. It’s similar to the way they loved to boast about Mrs Thatcher being the first female PM, despite the fact that she did very little to promote women’s rights and didn’t even want them in her cabinet.
I suspect Sunak’s wealth will cause the Party to vote for Truss anyway. She has rather ridiculously adopted some of Mrs Thatcher’s mannerisms and vocal tics, and she has the support of Johnson, who remains very popular with part members. She’s also batshit crazy and on the right of the party, with the support of a bunch of MPs who are determined to drag the party further right. She is a shoo-in.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | July 27, 2022 9:20 PM
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I don't know who this weirdo poster thinks he's convincing with his delusional rants about racism from Essex and Indians, but he's either lying or confused.
Like other posters have said, there are questions about Sunak's residential ambitions, taxes (he's paid everything he's supposed to, but for how long? We know his wife already ducked out of millions despite living and schooling their children here) and whether he wants the top job for his c.v. or because he really cares.
Truss has her own problems, but I doubt her affair, a comically awkward speech and lack of charisma is a career killer.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | July 27, 2022 9:24 PM
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R36 you may claim to be born in the UK but you’re just a shit-stirring trumpanzee talking about so-called no-go ghettos.
R10 you are not even remotely a native Brit - you can’t even get your English racist slurs right. And only 12 year old Tiktok morons use the word “mad”.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | July 27, 2022 9:25 PM
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R46 The majority of Conservative Central Office would would love to have the first PM from an Asian background. Unfortunately the vast majority of Conservative party members of the British general public would not.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | July 27, 2022 9:25 PM
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R48 I think its time for your medication.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | July 27, 2022 9:27 PM
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It's interesting to see so many americans pretending to be British on the board with the specific aim of smearing the country as racist. Fortunately they're lazy and don't do their research, and are very transparent to anyone who is actually from the UK.
Also, if Sunak's colour were such a supposed problem with the right wing, why is the top voter favourite (knocked out of the running now) a black woman called Kemi Badenoch? Everyone from the Telegraph to the Ukipper- types have been pushing her forward and cheering her on because her policies reflect theirs the most closely. read the thousand- plus comments below this article - almost all of them say they'd vote for her before ANY other candidate.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 51 | July 27, 2022 9:35 PM
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Britain has a booming population of South Asian immigrants, and they're flocking to the Conservative Party faster than Boston Micks used to flock to a rally for Jack Kennedy.
They LOVE Rishi Sunak in the Conservative Party. Indians are a model minority for them, and Sunak is a model spokesman for that model minority.
It's like asking if Republicans would push back against Mayra Flores, Clarence Thomas, or Michelle Steel. Of course not! They love a shiny token!
by Anonymous | reply 52 | July 27, 2022 9:38 PM
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R50 wow - such outrage at criticism of your evident racism.
PS the usual English word is medicine not medication
by Anonymous | reply 53 | July 27, 2022 9:39 PM
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Yeah the 'n' word is very rarely used in the UK and certainly not against someone Asian. (Here we use the term 'Asian' for people whose family come from South Asia.)
They'd call them p***.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | July 27, 2022 9:41 PM
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R53 Racism? Its called a differing opinion to you.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | July 27, 2022 9:44 PM
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R54 it should be “it’s”, and usually “different” is used in British English.
But still racist, however misspelt.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | July 27, 2022 9:50 PM
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[quote] PS the usual English word is medicine not medication
R53, This is obviously incorrect. “Medicine” is only used for liquid medication being administered by a spoon. The types of anti-psychotics tablets required by delusional D/Lers are medication.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | July 27, 2022 10:00 PM
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R57 Mate, you’re still a racist cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | July 27, 2022 10:10 PM
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R52, the vast majority of South Asians in the UK, Indian as well as Pakistani and Bengali, vote Labour. The very diverse top table of the current Tory party is the result of a deliberate decision made by David Cameron and his team.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | July 27, 2022 10:11 PM
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I feel sad for you, r58. God love you.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | July 27, 2022 10:14 PM
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R58 It takes one to know one ...Mate.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | July 27, 2022 10:16 PM
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R63 Eh? So I’m not a Brit ‘cos you aren’t then?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | July 27, 2022 10:21 PM
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He's kind of cute in a Michael Phelps sort of way. But I know nothing about him, politically-speaking.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | July 27, 2022 10:23 PM
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R64 I take it English is not your first language?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | July 27, 2022 10:28 PM
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Ummmmm....Tory Party is more progressive than they're given credit for. They elected a female leader in the 1970s who then led the country. No other party in the UK can claim that level of progression and the US have yet to come to grips with the idea of a female president. A decent number of non-White high level MPs in the current Conservative mix; Sajid Javid, Priti Patel, Kwasi Kwarteng, Nadhim Zahawi and Rishi. Of the eight initial nominees, half were non-White. Don't worry about Britain coming to terms with an Indian PM.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | July 27, 2022 10:29 PM
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How many British MPs are there in the Indian Government?
by Anonymous | reply 69 | July 27, 2022 10:31 PM
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R66 There you go again, Tommy!
by Anonymous | reply 70 | July 27, 2022 10:32 PM
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R71 You really should know that reference
by Anonymous | reply 72 | July 27, 2022 10:35 PM
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R72 Is that a Racial slur?
by Anonymous | reply 73 | July 27, 2022 10:36 PM
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Tommy was a name given to British soldiers in WW1.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | July 27, 2022 10:38 PM
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R72 Are you referring to a British solder in the first world war?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | July 27, 2022 10:39 PM
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R75 Absolutely no clue… 🙄
by Anonymous | reply 76 | July 27, 2022 10:41 PM
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[quote] Also, if Nikki Hailey's colour were such a supposed problem with the right wing, why do they love a black woman called Candace Owens? Everyone from the Telegraph to the Ukipper- types have been pushing her forward and cheering her on because her policies reflect theirs the most closely. read the thousand- plus comments below this article - almost all of them say they'd retweet her before ANY other columnist.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | July 27, 2022 10:47 PM
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Tell me more about Trussy the Hussy. She sounds like a real good-time girl.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | July 28, 2022 12:43 AM
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Truss is hard Right. She holds more appeal. She’s run on an anti-woke platform.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | July 28, 2022 12:46 AM
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R22 heard it said the Brits think the wogs begin at Calais, tbh
by Anonymous | reply 81 | July 28, 2022 2:46 AM
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I have heard the same R81
by Anonymous | reply 82 | July 28, 2022 9:42 AM
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I can't get my head around Truss. She's consistently voted for equal rights for gays and lesbians, and voted for same-sex marriage at every opportunity, but voted against a right to remain for E.U. nationals already in living in the U.K., which wouldn't even affect that many people. She seems liberal on some social issues, but not others.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | July 28, 2022 9:59 AM
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R72 R73 Girls! GIRLS!!! You are both being incredibly annoying. Take it outside!
by Anonymous | reply 84 | July 28, 2022 11:59 AM
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The betting companies have Truss winning and in the UK, those are more reliable than opinion polls.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | July 28, 2022 12:13 PM
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R68 A few progressive things does not a progressive party make.
For example, the Tories had the largest percentage of MPs who voted against same sex marriage. By far.
They're still mostly right wing. The nasty party indeed.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | July 28, 2022 5:26 PM
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Truss and Penny Mordaunt were allegedly fucking Kwasi Kwarteng around the same time. Handbags at dawn.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | July 28, 2022 5:34 PM
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Rishi Sunak: "The sun has been shining - so much so that someone even said to me the other day 'wow, you've got a great tan'."
What a bad joke.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | July 28, 2022 9:30 PM
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How is Jon Hensley making his bread nowadays? His LinkedIn lists that he runs a comedy venue in LA or something but that doesn’t seem like a real job.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | July 28, 2022 9:31 PM
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The thing is, Brits will never say it's because he's Indian even if it is. They'll find every other excuse not to vote for him without mentioning his race.
Brits have taken racial hypocrisy to the extreme. Their political correctness (even though I hate that term) is next level. Watching British TV, tokenism abounds everywhere you look almost to the point of absurdity. While they are light years ahead of the rest of Europe in as far as representation of minorities in mainstream media, they take it to ridiculous levels where it doesn't feel organic but more like checking boxes to fulfil a quota. For example, every TV ad (I'm not joking, every single one) is multiracial. In a country that's still 87% white, the typical model TV couple is interracial with explicitly mixed race offspring even though the picture on the streets is different. Once on a dating reality show, there was a public outcry because the subject, a black woman was ostensibly pressured racially because one of the male prospects was an unsuitable black man, I kid you not.
And they're constantly walking on eggshells, going out of their way not to acknowledge race because that's racist. Most Americans know anyone saying "I don't see race" is a red flag, but if you ask a Brit to describe, say, LeBron James, they will describe everything from his height, to size of his feet. Everything except mentioning he's black which, of course, they didn't notice. It's hilarious, when you think about it.
So, no. Rishi Sunak will not become PM. Some of the votes may have been swayed by his race but you'll never hear it.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | July 29, 2022 3:55 AM
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Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 92 | July 29, 2022 6:50 AM
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R92, Sunak (along with Sajid Javid, the former Health Secretary) is seen as the person who precipitated the departure of all those other Ministers. Sunak and Javid both resigned within minutes of each other, so to Party members it looks like it they co-ordinated their resignations for maximum effect. It was after their departure that the wave of resignations began.
This pisses off The Tory membership, who see it as analogous to the situation with Margaret Thatcher, where a leader who remains hugely popular with the Party is killed off by Tory MPs who fear that the leader has become a political liability in the eyes of the UK electorate.
In the case of Thatcher’s downfall, her perceived political assassin, Michael Hestletine, was seen as the front-runner to succeed her, but the Party turned against him for his perceived treachery and a coalition from all wings of the party voted for John Major instead.
In today’s situation, both Javid and Sunak are seen (by the Conservative members) as having killed off a successful Tory PM and as a result Sunak’s campaign has suffered and Javid did even worse. In contrast, Truss (who is actually a fairly weak candidate) is being rewarded for her loyalty to Johnson, gaining votes from both the right of the party (despite her former identity as a Remainer) and from the centre of the party.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | July 29, 2022 9:17 AM
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Heseltine, the leading light at the time of Thatcher, never really recovered from pulling the trigger on her, r93. It killed any chance he had for advancement. From the very top Tory hopeful straight down to no hope of ever making top cabinet, much less PM.
I wonder what will happen to the "assassins" this time round.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | July 29, 2022 9:30 AM
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I like Sunak but he seems like he's a little bit Aspie. Do others get that impression?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | July 29, 2022 9:32 AM
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The truth is, of the top Tories, only Boris Johnson has the kind of charisma that win general elections. I hope Labour don't blow this opportunity they've been handed on a plate.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | July 29, 2022 11:12 AM
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It boggles the mind why the US government is even allowing Victor Orban to enter the country. He and Putin should be on a permanent exclusion list.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | July 29, 2022 11:15 AM
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What does Victor Orban have to do with this?
by Anonymous | reply 98 | July 29, 2022 2:33 PM
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R94 At least it paved the way for John Major, a fundamentally decent man who took the knives out of Thatcherism and gave the country seven solid years.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | July 29, 2022 2:36 PM
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I'm just grateful evil bitch Priti Patel doesn't seem to be in the running.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | July 29, 2022 2:48 PM
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R99 I'm sure the Major government was seven solid years.
Just as long as we ignore back to basics, the ERM fiasco and the ensuing recession (still the worst in British history), Europe, the age of consent failure, the legalisation of payday lending, the legalisation of buy to let mortgages, the beginning of pension fund raiding that would ultimately dismantle private pension provision, the UK's first attempt at ID cards, the disasterous privatisation of British Rail (something even Thatcher wouldn't contemplate), Europe again, the Criminal Justice Act, crime reaching its highest recorded level under Major, multiple prison riots, and even more Europe.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | July 29, 2022 3:03 PM
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Mr Sunak shows too much ambition.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | July 30, 2022 12:50 AM
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R100 She's not. The fact she didn't throw her hat into the ring shows she realises she's not very popular. I daresay she has the ambition to be PM, but her ego would have hated being knocked out early, so she stayed in her box.
She's a smirking, bullying, smarmy individual. I can't stand her (if it wasn't obvious).
by Anonymous | reply 103 | July 30, 2022 9:35 AM
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There is such a thing as a 'model minority'. Sunak is it. Indians are pretty respectable in the eyes of UK Tory voters. He is also appropriately posh, southern and privately educated. It's a good thing he is not muslim, most of the real hate is directed at them. The wife being a non-dom IS a big problem, but it would also be a problem were she white.
That said, he's not going to win. He has refused to pander to the most extreme disastercapitalist fantasy economics of Tory members, and he knifed Boris. The End.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | July 30, 2022 9:47 AM
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[quote] Is there any level of pushback to Rishi Sunak because he is Indian?
I'm sure there are an equal number, if not more, who pushback because Truss is a woman. People have all kinds of biases.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | August 6, 2022 6:20 PM
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R106 He has unmutilated cockmeat. It must taste like a fabulous currywurst.....
by Anonymous | reply 108 | August 6, 2022 6:27 PM
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Honestly, yes.
The Tories like to say they are a meritocracy and are proud of their 2 female PMs but the reality is that they are Conservative. As is hankering after a rose-tinted view of the past where they didn’t have to pay tax and people knew their place.
They Conservative voters who will select the leader would be fine with Sunak over anything Labor offers but they are more comfortable with Truss.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | August 6, 2022 6:35 PM
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R108 or more like curried smegma 🤢
by Anonymous | reply 110 | August 6, 2022 6:58 PM
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Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 111 | August 6, 2022 7:27 PM
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^ UK is so woke now the Tudors are black.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | August 6, 2022 7:27 PM
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The British are such bigots. As bad as Americans. After all they were the inspiration.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | August 6, 2022 8:04 PM
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Texas is full of Indian immigrants and they're all Republicans. Deport them.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | August 7, 2022 12:25 AM
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R110 You are an shameless smegmaphone. Begone with thee. barbarian.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | August 10, 2022 11:19 AM
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I am a Conservative member and I voted for Liz Truss. I love Rishi but he is too tight with the purse
by Anonymous | reply 116 | August 10, 2022 11:28 AM
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He’s too tight with the purse? She’s planning to cut taxes!
by Anonymous | reply 117 | August 10, 2022 11:30 AM
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Actually OP it’s simply because he is a cunt. So is Truss in the interests of fairness.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | August 10, 2022 11:32 AM
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That’s what I meant. He has increased taxes
by Anonymous | reply 119 | August 10, 2022 11:32 AM
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How to manage the cost of living crisis of not raising taxes? His solution seems more economically viable
by Anonymous | reply 120 | August 10, 2022 11:36 AM
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He needs to play the race card and say he's black and so they won't let him be the rightful leader. Guilt trip them into supporting him.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | August 10, 2022 11:50 AM
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Lol Brits love to act superior to Americans in almost every aspect of life and society - even when they’re considered basically lower class in the UK. They’re so full of pretentious shit. So many of them visit the US and openly diss / insult / critique American society yet also would kill to move here if they could.
At least in the US we are now fairly open about our issues with race etc. instead of playing the pretend game.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | August 11, 2022 7:51 PM
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The British Empire committed atrocities and enacted genocides. Starving populations to death. I think only the Belgians and Japanese can be compared with cruelty. Not just Indigenous American and Aboriginal people suffered but also Jews, Irish, Indians and Chinese. The Irish famine is completely insane. I don't understand how it's bad for Americans to be patriotic yet okay for the British to be proud of their Empire.
While the Spanish, French and Portuguese were not without cruelty but at least allowed citizenship to the Indigenous and gave black slaves more freedom and allowed for interracial mixing to occur. Also because of Catholicism, the Natives and slaves were all baptized thus were seen as brethren despite being at the bottom of society. Noticed how in Latin American countries, there are still heavy populations of indigenous peoples or people with heavy indigenous admixture while The US, Canada and Australia are predominantly white with the indigenous populations being less than 2%.
Slavery in the Anglo-Caribbean was especially awful like Jamaica and Barbados. Haiti and Brazil's slave revolts happened because the rules were so lax. While the British tended to worked the slaves to death. Also the British created the ideas of racial purity, White Anglo-Saxon Protestant supremacy and added scientific racism into the equation to justify it. So blacks and Natives were never qualifed to be equal citizens and the one-drop rule ensured that they would be permanent underclass. Also The British used Irish and Scottish slaves in the Caribbean which broke the code in many European kingdoms to not enslave other Europeans.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | August 11, 2022 8:24 PM
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Indians are pretty hated right now...
hinduphobia has moved up to compete with antisemitism on campuses now... unsurprisingly by many of the same groups.
there's only one true religion accepted on campuses and in social justice movements. . . but only the in its most fundamentalist form.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | August 11, 2022 9:09 PM
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Any "Hinduphobia" in the UK is 100% made up of the UK's Muslims, who hate them with the fire of a thousand suns, UK Muslims generally hate most non-Muslims, but they save their special hate for the Jewish and Hindu populations.
Everyone else in the UK loves the Hindu British population. They are a complete plus to the country in every way, and a joy to have around.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | August 11, 2022 9:44 PM
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Americans please stop projecting your racism and prejudices to the U.K. just so you can feel better about yourselves. Nobody cares if he is of Indian background, just look at the profiles of the original 12 contenders. His “sin” is that he is a billionaire by marriage and his wife avoided paying taxes in the U.K. . And please stop associating the Conservative party with 🇺🇸 republicans, they have nothing in common, the conservatives are the equivalent of the old Democratic Party and Labour now could be compared to the Bernie sanders wing of the democrats
by Anonymous | reply 126 | August 11, 2022 10:13 PM
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Let’s bow to the amazing Kemi Badenoch of the Conservative Party, she will be prime minister
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 127 | August 11, 2022 10:24 PM
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A 'race card' would imply a special set of privileges and/or access, r121; would you care to elaborate what those are?
by Anonymous | reply 128 | August 11, 2022 10:41 PM
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R123 the native Arabs began what we know as the slave trade, and they're still openly perpetuating it, now. The current Emirates see no issue with it.
The British have officially denounced slavery, stepped back from it, and tried to make some reparations and mend international fences (as much as one can, for such atrocity). No excuses for continuing to abet the Arabs in their nefarious and shameless use of slaves in the present day, though.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | August 11, 2022 10:50 PM
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All I hear Brits on Twitter talk about. Is how much of a sad dark miserable place of an island England is.
I believe it. No wonder so many brits want to live in America. That stiff upper lip shit is killing people.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | August 12, 2022 12:56 AM
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R126, yeah, because Jimmy Carter was shipping refugees to Rwanda. Sure.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | August 12, 2022 1:34 PM
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Something that I think isn’t taken into acccount re. the slavery/colonisation issue between the U.K. & U.S. is the Mather of objectice logistics.
Setting aside for a moment the obvious massive ethics of the matter—Great Britain simply does not have the physical land space or the resources to cope with the population. It’s a tiny island trying to support too many millions. The U.S. on the other hand is at least as big as half of all Europe, a surplus of space and land for people and industry and agriculture.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | August 12, 2022 1:51 PM
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He's just a weirdo, a la Mark Zuckerberg. He playacts at being human and regular people pick up on it instinctly.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | August 12, 2022 2:10 PM
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I hate them both so don’t give a shit which one is elected.
To the poster commenting on Hindus hating Muslims and vice versa I would agree. The mother of one of my friends used to have a hierarchy of acceptable husbands for her daughters and brown Muslims came below white people in her list. Top of her list were of course other Hindus from the same region. People from African-Caribbean backgrounds were at the bottom. She was a lovely woman on the face of it but really a dreadful racist.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | August 12, 2022 2:29 PM
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That’s interesting, R134. I know a gorgeous Indian from the UK and her husband is Afro-Caribbean.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | August 12, 2022 2:32 PM
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R135, my friend was in a relationship with a man who was mixed race - white and African-Caribbean. She lived with the fellow for years and never told her mother. Just made out she was sharing with friends. They eventually split up and her new partner is white. He did eventually get an introduction to the family but not for a few years,
by Anonymous | reply 136 | August 12, 2022 2:39 PM
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Sunak is unlikeable, stiff as a board and has nothing about him. The media don’t make much of him being of Indian. Liz Truss is a hard-faced bitch with a no-nonsense attitude and that makes me like her, so fingers crossed for her.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | August 12, 2022 2:44 PM
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[quote]my friend was in a relationship with a man who was mixed race - white and African-Caribbean.
A little OT R136, Is it normal in the UK to specify someone is of mixed race rather than just defaulting to black? And where does that leave someone like Lewis Hamilton who identifies as black to an almost militant level even though he has a white mother? Aren't many famous Black Brits, like Thandiwe Newton, essentially half white? Also, would someone who's half Asian and half white be described as mixed race too? Especially since many are white-presenting.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | August 12, 2022 2:55 PM
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R138 that's a very good question, and as an all-white Brit I'm not sure how to answer.
You're correct to point out that some famous mixed-race British people seem more identify as being POC than not. Perhaps it depends on what sort of family/community they were raised by or grew up with, ethnically?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 139 | August 12, 2022 3:46 PM
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R134, that doesn’t surprise me at all. I’m obviously biased given that i was raised Muslim (still identify but not really practicing; in general just not a religious person) but in my experience Hindus and many Sikhs in America (can’t speak to the UK) are WAY more racist against Muslims rather the other way around. In my own family, I’ve more than a handful of male and female cousins that married non-Muslims. For some, their parents initially made a huge issue but eventually got over it and accepted. One cousin in particular married a Sikh guy and while her family accepted his (Sikh) family at the outset, his still doesn’t accept hers (5+ years later). They’re not even particularly religious (neither is that cousin’s family).
To be fair, this dynamic may be different when it involves particularly Pakistani Muslims (which I am not) and Indian Hindus, given that history. But people (usually Westerners) make this assumption that Hindus are all peace loving and accepting of everyone etc. I have nothing against them at all as I have many Indian friends etc but experience tells a very different story. Just look at Modi…
by Anonymous | reply 140 | August 12, 2022 5:10 PM
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R130 Brits love to complain about Britain. They're the opposite of Americans and all our Fucking USA USA USA. Patriotism is not a quality whereas in the US it's pushed to the outer extremes of jingoism. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
by Anonymous | reply 141 | August 12, 2022 11:20 PM
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R37 We have plenty of Indians here and they do just fine.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | August 12, 2022 11:31 PM
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R142 no they fucking don't. They're all a bunch of Republicans. Pathetic.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | August 13, 2022 2:00 AM
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R141 complaining about anything is a British way of life. It's almost our personality hallmark.
And we've written some lovely songs, books and plays about being a bit miserable and disgruntled and apathetic.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 144 | August 13, 2022 9:13 PM
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r134 I never said that Hindus hate muslims. They might tend to avoid them, but that is because the Muslims are often quite open about their hatred for Hindus, so interactions might be strained. None of my Hindu friends exhibit 'hatred' for Muslims, only a slight fear of them and reticence around them. They just avoid them and otherwise remain quiet on the issue.
West Indians have been abused by the Muslim population too: there was a documentary made about it. The conclusion of the documentary is that the UK muslims tend to be racist as well as bigoted toward non-Muslims in general. Having said that, back when this documentary was made, most of the UK Muslims were of Pakistani origin. Since then there has been a significant rise in the Somali Muslim population, so I don't whether that has positively affected the way that UK Muslims in general interact with the black population in general.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 145 | August 13, 2022 9:28 PM
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^^^^ I found a copy of the documentary, if anyone is interested in watching. It was VERY controversial at the time and UK Muslims threatened Trevor Philip over it, sending him into temporary hiding after it aired.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 146 | August 13, 2022 9:34 PM
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I want to make a correction to my comments at r145 and r146. The documentary I was referring to was Darcus Howe's, not the one by Trevor Philips.
Here's a clip:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 147 | August 13, 2022 9:52 PM
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[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 149 | August 18, 2022 11:23 AM
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The racists will be voting for UKIP-type of parties anyway, so I don't really think it's an issue for Sunak, or only a small one.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | August 18, 2022 11:30 AM
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It’s pretty funny that (presumably) British people are dismissing this accomplished, qualified person’s dark skin/ethnic identity as a factor in his massive loss to nightmare battle axe moron Truss. This seems like denial.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | August 18, 2022 2:46 PM
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R151 I don't really think it is if you understand the Tory members. They are more interested in things like tax cuts and class. Sunak is a rich, privately educated twat. The problem is that he's too much like Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband in his awkward manner and way he has been Chancellor. That's the real issue. Yes, the UK has plenty of racists but know your audience here.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | August 18, 2022 3:25 PM
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Liz Truss is already talking like she's already in the job. He had no chance.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | August 26, 2022 1:50 AM
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Acromegaly is unappealing in any ethnicity.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | August 26, 2022 1:53 AM
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Sunak was born in Southampton.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | August 26, 2022 3:56 AM
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Yeah, Southampton, Gujarat.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | August 26, 2022 4:02 AM
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Sorry to ask a stupid question - but when is the vote to decide the PM. And it's just the Conservative Party members? or an even smaller group - Conservative MPs?
by Anonymous | reply 157 | August 26, 2022 5:59 AM
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^
The party membership gets to vote. The new PM will be announced on September 5th.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | August 26, 2022 7:37 AM
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I'm British.
Dislike against Rishi Sunak is all to do with how much money his wife has. Britons are facing a winter where they will have to choose between fuel and food. Not the poor people who are used to that choice anyway, but the middle class. Sunak won't have to make that choice.
I second the person who said that Hindu's are a great addiction to the country and very few people have a problem with them.
Racism today is generally about Islam. Islam is both a religion and a political belief. Neither of those things are above criticism in the UK and nor should they be. But no one is allowed to criticise Muslims to the degree that there have been grooming gangs here for 40 years and the police have NEVER acted on them. Every thing was covered up by the powers that be. British people are really pissed off about it.
I think 'Tommy' refers to Tommy Robinson, aka the man who cannot be named. He comes from a background of racism. He now devotes his time to calling out Islam. He has made documentataries about the grooming gangs which forced the police to act on the information and made people aware of what was going on. Obviously other people were trying to bring attention to it but they were called racist and Islamophobic and not allowed to speak. Tommy Robinson has been put in jail more than once and is quick to start punching. There's tonnes of stuff on YouTube about him.
Illegal immigration is a problem here. None of the people landing on the beaches are refugees. They're economic migrants and we've now found that a lot of them are from Albania. They're also crossing from France which is a safe space so they are not fleeing danger. The real refugees are stuck in the most horrendous refugee camps in various parts of the world. Those are the people we should be helping. That too is pissing Briton's off.
Please don't judge British people by the TV programmes that are made. We're not that woke. Most people I know don't watch woke crap. It's never good so why would you waste your time?
by Anonymous | reply 159 | August 26, 2022 8:50 AM
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Thank. you R158. Don't know anything about her so I'll be interested in seeing how it turns out. Boris was a hoot!
by Anonymous | reply 160 | August 26, 2022 5:43 PM
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He's got several hundred million and she has half a billion. I think they are too rich for politics. Ick.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | August 26, 2022 5:48 PM
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I'm not British, but from what I've seen abiut Sunak isn't good. He seems really arrogant and elitist, as well as thinking he's better than others. Especially those lower than him on the socioeconomic ladder. And that interview of him when he was young from 2000 doesn't help either.
Glad he'll never be PM. England is letting him know where his place is.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | August 26, 2022 9:49 PM
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[quote]to the degree that there have been grooming gangs here for 40 years and the police have NEVER acted on them.
What's a grooming gang? I hope it's nothing to do with a dog grooming syndicate.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | August 27, 2022 2:52 AM
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R163 A grooming gang is a group of men who rape teenage girls. They 'groom' them with all kinds of promises and claims of love etc and then pass them around so that they can be raped by others. Some of the girls were as young as 11.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 164 | August 27, 2022 7:21 AM
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UK criminal activity is so weird. First the knife-crime in London (seriously? Knives is the best you could do?) now this "grooming".
by Anonymous | reply 165 | August 27, 2022 1:30 PM
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^ Of course linked from right-wing UK site.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | August 27, 2022 4:57 PM
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Media manufacturing of the 'Muslim grooming gangs' crisis
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 167 | August 27, 2022 5:02 PM
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Media manufacturing of the 'Muslim grooming gangs' crisis
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 168 | August 27, 2022 5:03 PM
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Coronation Street, which is extremely middle of the road politically, had a grooming gang storyline. The groomers were white; makes me think that the Muslim focus of many stories needs scrutiny.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | August 27, 2022 5:06 PM
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R169 Go ahead and scrutinise. Come back when you've come up with some conclusions. Coronation Street is fictional, you might want to remember that.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | August 27, 2022 5:55 PM
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R169, a lot of extreme media on both sides is fiction, too. Please go suck some more UKIP cock.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | August 27, 2022 6:12 PM
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Wasn't there a Pakistani gang grooming young girls for years in Birmingham? And weren't non Muslim female teachers told to wear head scarves in that same city?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 173 | August 27, 2022 6:52 PM
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R171 Yes a lot of extremist arguments are fiction. But the scandal of the grooming gangs isn't. Despite police, councils, and more pretending it was fiction, the truth came out.
Oh, and the only cock I suck is my husbands. And he isn't UKIP but then neither am I.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | August 28, 2022 7:01 AM
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I feel like when Muslims are involved in criminal activity, it reflects negatively for the entire community in a way that white criminals don't. Of course there white groomers but their race won't be reported.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | August 28, 2022 7:16 AM
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R175 I don't know why the Muslim community haven't thrown these men out. At the trials, they had loads of supporters cheering them and shouting 'Allahu Akbar'.
Within Britain, these men have brought Islam into disrepute, which is huge thing to do. Why haven't the mosques pointed that out? Why have we not seen protesters in the street, carrying signs that say 'Not my Islam' or some such thing?
by Anonymous | reply 176 | August 28, 2022 7:52 AM
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^probably because most Muslims have daily pressing concerns as cooks/cleaners/teachers/doctors/lawyers and like most Brits just want to live their lives.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | August 28, 2022 8:22 AM
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^ Too busy for "Not my Islam" protests/activism but almost always have time for "Anti-Islamophobia" protests/activism.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | August 28, 2022 8:27 AM
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Sorry I meant to say "I'm not* r176"
by Anonymous | reply 179 | August 28, 2022 8:27 AM
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I don't follow British politics closely but I have heard that the female (sorry, I've forgotten her name) is expected to win, not the Indian (whose name I can remember because it's in the title of this thread).
by Anonymous | reply 180 | August 28, 2022 8:30 AM
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Literally everybody in the race was going to beat Sunak when it got down to two. The parliamentary party is out of touch with the grassroots.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | August 28, 2022 9:19 AM
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Liz Truss is a legendary slag. Has there ever been a more promiscuous woman in charge of a country? Catherine the Great, perhaps?
by Anonymous | reply 182 | August 28, 2022 9:22 AM
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R182 Liz T is nothing in comparison to the men, dear.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | August 28, 2022 9:24 AM
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Dear r182, why do you think I specified sex? Thank you for playing, prick.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | August 28, 2022 9:26 AM
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R182, thank you for your faith in me and my barely used poosy, my darling. I wasn't in charge of the country but I was First Ladees, this is almost same thing.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | August 28, 2022 9:39 AM
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[quote] but I was First Ladees, this is almost same thing.
This is what I keep telling them!
by Anonymous | reply 186 | August 28, 2022 9:48 AM
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Sunak over that Truss creature any day on so many levels.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | August 28, 2022 10:00 AM
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R188 Nah, she's just retarded.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | August 28, 2022 10:09 AM
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R189 Me view too. Retard like my brother.
by Anonymous | reply 190 | August 28, 2022 10:28 AM
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[quote] "Bloody Wog!"
Are you certain of your terminology? As I always understood it the Bloody Wogs were the dark but not black eastern Mediterranean types. Northeast Africans, Turks, and Greeks. The people from India had another word I'm not allowed to use here but Agatha Christie did.
Or very tiny spies.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 191 | August 28, 2022 11:20 AM
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Announcement tomorrow. Truss has already called the moving company.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | September 4, 2022 7:51 AM
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r176 It's not as safe for muslims in the UK to say such things as it is in Canada and the U.S. - which still face harassment and attacks. But the UK brand seems to be several notches above that. The frequent of the last few years has been home invasions than targeting the individual solely. Of course, there's been worse... but when speaking out puts your family at risk, the public trust shrugs their shoulders and officers are inclined to say you incited it. More people are apt to stay silent.
Now there are public reformers, of course, but they tend get silenced and crowded out by the loudest voices in the room. And that tends to send them advocating for changes from the safety of another nation or coming off like complete nutters. Albeit, a few also give into sensationalism because even the media won't respond to you if you're not causing a fuss.
You ever try to be the rational person standing between two angry groups?
Most people aren't cut out to do it alone. So, they end up creating groups, the groups still end up being too small, so they create alliances.. and sometimes those alliances link them to undesirable types. And they end up becoming extremists of another sort and losing their reforming credit.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | September 4, 2022 8:18 AM
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They're both awful and potentially worse than Boris.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | September 4, 2022 11:25 PM
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Boris is a buffoon but Truss is the British version of deSantis, completely unscrupulous.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | September 4, 2022 11:30 PM
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I'd love to grab her by the pussy. She'd love it.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | September 6, 2022 9:06 AM
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The three most important cabinet secretaries chosen by Truss are: 2 black guys and an Indian woman. Chancellor, Foreign Secretary and Home Secretary. They're all fucking conservatives but her cabinet is a lot more diverse than Biden's.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | September 10, 2022 10:26 PM
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[quote]Truss is the British version of deSantis, completely unscrupulous.
Absolute bullshit. If you did your research, you would see she has never voted against gay rights, and she isn’t a disgusting loudmouth like DeSantis. Not even the same category.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | September 10, 2022 10:32 PM
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Truss is a Tory not a rightwing Republican. She's pro-gay rights, pro-abortion, etc. Tories area basically like blue dog Democrats as politics in the US has veered so far to the right.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | September 10, 2022 10:43 PM
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Truss doesn't believe that trans women are women. In fairness, neither does Sunak.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | September 12, 2022 7:28 AM
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Transwomen are not women. They're straight men playing dress-up.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | September 13, 2022 7:18 PM
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