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DL Brits: Is there any level of pushback to Rishi Sunak because he is Indian?

Given the Conservative party and all, are people, especially older people, looking at him and thinking "Bloody Wog!"

He seems to have some strong ties to India via his wife of the sort that would sink an American politician

I have not seen mention of the fact that he is Indian and that he would be an historic choice for PM as a result, though it is possible I am not reading the right publications for that.

What gives?

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by Anonymousreply 202September 13, 2022 7:18 PM

His wife doesn’t pay UK tax and he has US green card apparently. Plus he stabbed Boris in the back. People don’t like that.

by Anonymousreply 1July 27, 2022 12:31 PM

Why do you ask? British racists? How could that ever be?

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by Anonymousreply 2July 27, 2022 12:32 PM

His race isn't an issue for the vast majority of people.

Besides a small fringe, British people are more toxically obsessed with class than race. Race can take on class dimensions of course. Indians generally are seen as respectable and middle class, and are not seen as alien or threatening.

by Anonymousreply 3July 27, 2022 12:33 PM

I dunno… Brexit… Johnson… are we really looking for people from the UK to make rational choices?

by Anonymousreply 4July 27, 2022 12:33 PM

"He seems to have some strong ties to India via his wife of the sort that would sink an American politician "

Are you kidding? American politicians can be full fledged Nazis with little or no push back

by Anonymousreply 5July 27, 2022 12:33 PM

Lots of Nazi emblems and flags flying around Florida this past weekend for their rally, R5.

These people are fucking filth and a scourge upon our nation.

This is how it begins.

Americans haven’t learned shit from history.

I heard Viktor Orbán is a speaker in Texas’ CPAC!

WTF is our country going?

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by Anonymousreply 6July 27, 2022 1:00 PM

Another Young leader from the WEF, another Klaus Schwab puppet, just like Boris.

by Anonymousreply 7July 27, 2022 1:06 PM

Casino or call center?

by Anonymousreply 8July 27, 2022 1:13 PM

This is why the conservative membership vote is likely to go to his opponent, despite his lead among MPs and peers. The white woman will win.

by Anonymousreply 9July 27, 2022 1:59 PM

My relatives in the UK are mad racist. I asked them what they thought and they said "a bloody sand ni&&er should not be in charge of a white country."

by Anonymousreply 10July 27, 2022 2:06 PM

[quote] My relatives in the UK are mad racist. I asked them what they thought and they said "a bloody sand ni&&er should not be in charge of a white country."

Uh, no R10. Your UK relatives would call an Arab a "sand nigger", not an Asian.

by Anonymousreply 11July 27, 2022 2:18 PM

I hate to break it to you, R10, but no-one in the UK uses that particular term, least of all for an Indian.

by Anonymousreply 12July 27, 2022 2:24 PM

Lol r10 just making things up to get aghast responses he can jerk off to. Dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 13July 27, 2022 2:29 PM

From what I've seen the questions come as to whether he is actually committed to Great Britain, given his wife's green card status in America, as well as a "he's not native and his people are not native" coded racism.

by Anonymousreply 14July 27, 2022 2:31 PM

If say, Julian Castro was married to Carlos Slim's daughter (Slim is the richest man in Mexico) and she had dual citizenship in Mexico and Spain, that would definitely count against him with US voters across the political spectrum.

by Anonymousreply 15July 27, 2022 2:41 PM

MY relatives are dead common. They called him a paki bastard too...I corrected them twice but it does not matter, I did not make it up. They are from Essex as in TOWIE level Essex.

by Anonymousreply 16July 27, 2022 2:52 PM

Nothing that I've seen at all but then I don't read any racist papers/sites/social media profiles.

Oh and we don't use the 'W' word, even when it was used, it was in reference to Black people and has rightly been consigned to the dustbin of history where it belongs.

by Anonymousreply 17July 27, 2022 2:52 PM

Rishi smacks of a man who is less concerned with government service and more interested in how a stint as PM will help his future earning power-- Much like BoJo and Blair

by Anonymousreply 18July 27, 2022 2:54 PM

His wife skips paying taxes in the UK doesn't she? Her father is one of the richest men in India apparently. No wonder she doesn't want to pay taxes. Anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 19July 27, 2022 2:57 PM

I imagine it'd be an issue at the Tory party conference since their membership is principally older white and Jerusalem singing. But no its his past as chancellor and corruption ties that count against him for the majority of the population. Doubt it matters though. Liz Truss is almost certain to win after she managed to look human for 30 seconds after Kate Mcann fainted in front of her... God help us all.

by Anonymousreply 20July 27, 2022 3:02 PM

If there's one thing British people hate, it's tax cheats.

by Anonymousreply 21July 27, 2022 3:09 PM

We don;t sure the "N" word either, Except of course the people who do R17

And I have heard Brits refer to Indians as "wogs" a category that seemed for many of them, to encompass all non-Northern Europeans.

by Anonymousreply 22July 27, 2022 3:40 PM

OK R22, I don't know who you've been hanging out with but I have never in my life heard that word used to refer to that nationality. I can't say it never happens if you have heard it yourself, but I've never heard of it. It was used as a word for Black people based on 'Golliwog' which is also no longer used. Except by racists.

by Anonymousreply 23July 27, 2022 4:16 PM

I have heard them use wogs too. I will admit my relatives in Essex are terrible people with a myopic world view. They loved Trump, hated Obama, and think Biden is a child molester fro some reason.

by Anonymousreply 24July 27, 2022 4:19 PM

R18 his wife is a billionaire. I doubt he’s doing it to get on the speech circuit.

by Anonymousreply 25July 27, 2022 4:21 PM

The only time in my life I've ever heard wogs used was by the major in Fawlty Towers.

by Anonymousreply 26July 27, 2022 4:30 PM

[quote] If there's one thing British people hate, it's tax cheats.

But if there's one thing Britain is good at, it cheating at taxes.

by Anonymousreply 27July 27, 2022 4:38 PM

I love Rishi to pieces but he doesn’t have the range!

by Anonymousreply 28July 27, 2022 6:33 PM

There definitely is a racist element among the Tory scum. Interestingly, Sunak polls better with the public but it seems the Tories want Truss —who I frankly DON’T truss. She has a bad vibe. But then, maybe with Truss in power the Tories will finally be voted out. One can but hope.

by Anonymousreply 29July 27, 2022 6:50 PM

Is he short? He looks short. Then again I think Boris was short too.

by Anonymousreply 30July 27, 2022 6:52 PM

Truss is a dirty slut who cheated on her husband. I think she’ll be great fun as PM. I wonder if she gave BoJo some puss, just to say she’s done it? Only truly worrisome skeleton in her closet is the paternity question hanging over her daughters’ heads. They sure don’t look like their “dad.”

by Anonymousreply 31July 27, 2022 6:53 PM

Does Rishi have "sparkly eyes?"

by Anonymousreply 32July 27, 2022 6:56 PM

... like Christmas morning

by Anonymousreply 33July 27, 2022 8:10 PM

Tory voters would love to revivify Thatcher’s corpse. They will have to do with Liz Truss. Nobody will admit it but Sunak’s race will be considered problematic by the old school Tories.

by Anonymousreply 34July 27, 2022 8:36 PM

As an American, I'm grimly amused to see that the Brits also have utterly terrible choices for their leaders, just like us.

by Anonymousreply 35July 27, 2022 8:41 PM

Its a huge issue that hes Indian amongst Brits, as many people feel that the UK is already being colonised by Indians and in many areas of the UK the British are in the minority. But no one is allowed to voice concerns over this as the R word is used as a cosh to gag any discussion. Also many more Indians entering the UK Parliament which also worries Brits as Indians look after their own and are not generally trusted.

by Anonymousreply 36July 27, 2022 8:51 PM

Indians have discovered America and are heading there now not Europe......Boy your in for some fun!

by Anonymousreply 37July 27, 2022 8:55 PM

He has an Indian passport a British passport and an American green card....whats the problem?

by Anonymousreply 38July 27, 2022 9:01 PM

R24 No-one in the entirety of Essex has enough knowledge of American politics to hold any opinion of any of those people. You're not convincing anybody.

by Anonymousreply 39July 27, 2022 9:03 PM

R36 You don't know anything about the UK.

by Anonymousreply 40July 27, 2022 9:04 PM

R40 Do you?

by Anonymousreply 41July 27, 2022 9:05 PM

R41 Well I was born here and have lived here for most of my life, so yes.

by Anonymousreply 42July 27, 2022 9:08 PM

And so have I.

by Anonymousreply 43July 27, 2022 9:09 PM

Nigel Farage is the only Brit left who doesn't love a curry.

by Anonymousreply 44July 27, 2022 9:10 PM

Nigel loves a Beer and a Curry.

by Anonymousreply 45July 27, 2022 9:11 PM

[quote] Rishi smacks of a man who is less concerned with government service and more interested in how a stint as PM will help his future earning power-- Much like BoJo and Blair

No, r18, one thing Sunak never, ever has to worry about is how much he earns. His wife has a fortune of £730 million pounds, and stands to inherit billions.

And therein lies the problem for his leadership ambitions. The next Prime Minister has to get to grips with inflation, a probable recession and a huge covid-related national debt. It’s going to be difficult for him to lecture the public about the need for frugality, cutting services and tightening our belts.

The majority of Conservative members would love to have the first PM from an Asian background be a Conservative. In their own strange way they love that kind of virtue signalling, it would give them a nice talking point every time their brutality towards asylum seekers makes the news. It’s similar to the way they loved to boast about Mrs Thatcher being the first female PM, despite the fact that she did very little to promote women’s rights and didn’t even want them in her cabinet.

I suspect Sunak’s wealth will cause the Party to vote for Truss anyway. She has rather ridiculously adopted some of Mrs Thatcher’s mannerisms and vocal tics, and she has the support of Johnson, who remains very popular with part members. She’s also batshit crazy and on the right of the party, with the support of a bunch of MPs who are determined to drag the party further right. She is a shoo-in.

by Anonymousreply 46July 27, 2022 9:20 PM

I don't know who this weirdo poster thinks he's convincing with his delusional rants about racism from Essex and Indians, but he's either lying or confused.

Like other posters have said, there are questions about Sunak's residential ambitions, taxes (he's paid everything he's supposed to, but for how long? We know his wife already ducked out of millions despite living and schooling their children here) and whether he wants the top job for his c.v. or because he really cares.

Truss has her own problems, but I doubt her affair, a comically awkward speech and lack of charisma is a career killer.

by Anonymousreply 47July 27, 2022 9:24 PM

R36 you may claim to be born in the UK but you’re just a shit-stirring trumpanzee talking about so-called no-go ghettos.

R10 you are not even remotely a native Brit - you can’t even get your English racist slurs right. And only 12 year old Tiktok morons use the word “mad”.

by Anonymousreply 48July 27, 2022 9:25 PM

R46 The majority of Conservative Central Office would would love to have the first PM from an Asian background. Unfortunately the vast majority of Conservative party members of the British general public would not.

by Anonymousreply 49July 27, 2022 9:25 PM

R48 I think its time for your medication.

by Anonymousreply 50July 27, 2022 9:27 PM

It's interesting to see so many americans pretending to be British on the board with the specific aim of smearing the country as racist. Fortunately they're lazy and don't do their research, and are very transparent to anyone who is actually from the UK.

Also, if Sunak's colour were such a supposed problem with the right wing, why is the top voter favourite (knocked out of the running now) a black woman called Kemi Badenoch? Everyone from the Telegraph to the Ukipper- types have been pushing her forward and cheering her on because her policies reflect theirs the most closely. read the thousand- plus comments below this article - almost all of them say they'd vote for her before ANY other candidate.

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by Anonymousreply 51July 27, 2022 9:35 PM

Britain has a booming population of South Asian immigrants, and they're flocking to the Conservative Party faster than Boston Micks used to flock to a rally for Jack Kennedy.

They LOVE Rishi Sunak in the Conservative Party. Indians are a model minority for them, and Sunak is a model spokesman for that model minority.

It's like asking if Republicans would push back against Mayra Flores, Clarence Thomas, or Michelle Steel. Of course not! They love a shiny token!

by Anonymousreply 52July 27, 2022 9:38 PM

R50 wow - such outrage at criticism of your evident racism.

PS the usual English word is medicine not medication

by Anonymousreply 53July 27, 2022 9:39 PM

Yeah the 'n' word is very rarely used in the UK and certainly not against someone Asian. (Here we use the term 'Asian' for people whose family come from South Asia.)

They'd call them p***.

by Anonymousreply 54July 27, 2022 9:41 PM

R53 Racism? Its called a differing opinion to you.

by Anonymousreply 55July 27, 2022 9:44 PM

R54 it should be “it’s”, and usually “different” is used in British English.

But still racist, however misspelt.

by Anonymousreply 56July 27, 2022 9:50 PM

[quote] PS the usual English word is medicine not medication

R53, This is obviously incorrect. “Medicine” is only used for liquid medication being administered by a spoon. The types of anti-psychotics tablets required by delusional D/Lers are medication.

by Anonymousreply 57July 27, 2022 10:00 PM

R57 Mate, you’re still a racist cunt.

by Anonymousreply 58July 27, 2022 10:10 PM

R52, the vast majority of South Asians in the UK, Indian as well as Pakistani and Bengali, vote Labour. The very diverse top table of the current Tory party is the result of a deliberate decision made by David Cameron and his team.

by Anonymousreply 59July 27, 2022 10:11 PM

R58 And your not a Brit.

by Anonymousreply 60July 27, 2022 10:12 PM

I feel sad for you, r58. God love you.

by Anonymousreply 61July 27, 2022 10:14 PM

R60 Really? How come?

(It’s “you’re” btw)

by Anonymousreply 62July 27, 2022 10:15 PM

R58 It takes one to know one ...Mate.

by Anonymousreply 63July 27, 2022 10:16 PM

R63 Eh? So I’m not a Brit ‘cos you aren’t then?

by Anonymousreply 64July 27, 2022 10:21 PM

He's kind of cute in a Michael Phelps sort of way. But I know nothing about him, politically-speaking.

by Anonymousreply 65July 27, 2022 10:23 PM

R64 No your an Indian.

by Anonymousreply 66July 27, 2022 10:25 PM

R64 I take it English is not your first language?

by Anonymousreply 67July 27, 2022 10:28 PM

Ummmmm....Tory Party is more progressive than they're given credit for. They elected a female leader in the 1970s who then led the country. No other party in the UK can claim that level of progression and the US have yet to come to grips with the idea of a female president. A decent number of non-White high level MPs in the current Conservative mix; Sajid Javid, Priti Patel, Kwasi Kwarteng, Nadhim Zahawi and Rishi. Of the eight initial nominees, half were non-White. Don't worry about Britain coming to terms with an Indian PM.

by Anonymousreply 68July 27, 2022 10:29 PM

How many British MPs are there in the Indian Government?

by Anonymousreply 69July 27, 2022 10:31 PM

R66 There you go again, Tommy!

by Anonymousreply 70July 27, 2022 10:32 PM

R70 Tommy?

by Anonymousreply 71July 27, 2022 10:33 PM

R71 You really should know that reference

by Anonymousreply 72July 27, 2022 10:35 PM

R72 Is that a Racial slur?

by Anonymousreply 73July 27, 2022 10:36 PM

Tommy was a name given to British soldiers in WW1.

by Anonymousreply 74July 27, 2022 10:38 PM

R72 Are you referring to a British solder in the first world war?

by Anonymousreply 75July 27, 2022 10:39 PM

R75 Absolutely no clue… 🙄

by Anonymousreply 76July 27, 2022 10:41 PM

Rock on Tommy!

by Anonymousreply 77July 27, 2022 10:42 PM

[quote] Also, if Nikki Hailey's colour were such a supposed problem with the right wing, why do they love a black woman called Candace Owens? Everyone from the Telegraph to the Ukipper- types have been pushing her forward and cheering her on because her policies reflect theirs the most closely. read the thousand- plus comments below this article - almost all of them say they'd retweet her before ANY other columnist.

by Anonymousreply 78July 27, 2022 10:47 PM

Tell me more about Trussy the Hussy. She sounds like a real good-time girl.

by Anonymousreply 79July 28, 2022 12:43 AM

Truss is hard Right. She holds more appeal. She’s run on an anti-woke platform.

by Anonymousreply 80July 28, 2022 12:46 AM

R22 heard it said the Brits think the wogs begin at Calais, tbh

by Anonymousreply 81July 28, 2022 2:46 AM

I have heard the same R81

by Anonymousreply 82July 28, 2022 9:42 AM

I can't get my head around Truss. She's consistently voted for equal rights for gays and lesbians, and voted for same-sex marriage at every opportunity, but voted against a right to remain for E.U. nationals already in living in the U.K., which wouldn't even affect that many people. She seems liberal on some social issues, but not others.

by Anonymousreply 83July 28, 2022 9:59 AM

R72 R73 Girls! GIRLS!!! You are both being incredibly annoying. Take it outside!

by Anonymousreply 84July 28, 2022 11:59 AM

The betting companies have Truss winning and in the UK, those are more reliable than opinion polls.

by Anonymousreply 85July 28, 2022 12:13 PM

R68 A few progressive things does not a progressive party make.

For example, the Tories had the largest percentage of MPs who voted against same sex marriage. By far.

They're still mostly right wing. The nasty party indeed.

by Anonymousreply 86July 28, 2022 5:26 PM

Truss and Penny Mordaunt were allegedly fucking Kwasi Kwarteng around the same time. Handbags at dawn.

by Anonymousreply 87July 28, 2022 5:34 PM

BDF!

by Anonymousreply 88July 28, 2022 5:49 PM

Rishi Sunak: "The sun has been shining - so much so that someone even said to me the other day 'wow, you've got a great tan'."

What a bad joke.

by Anonymousreply 89July 28, 2022 9:30 PM

How is Jon Hensley making his bread nowadays? His LinkedIn lists that he runs a comedy venue in LA or something but that doesn’t seem like a real job.

by Anonymousreply 90July 28, 2022 9:31 PM

The thing is, Brits will never say it's because he's Indian even if it is. They'll find every other excuse not to vote for him without mentioning his race.

Brits have taken racial hypocrisy to the extreme. Their political correctness (even though I hate that term) is next level. Watching British TV, tokenism abounds everywhere you look almost to the point of absurdity. While they are light years ahead of the rest of Europe in as far as representation of minorities in mainstream media, they take it to ridiculous levels where it doesn't feel organic but more like checking boxes to fulfil a quota. For example, every TV ad (I'm not joking, every single one) is multiracial. In a country that's still 87% white, the typical model TV couple is interracial with explicitly mixed race offspring even though the picture on the streets is different. Once on a dating reality show, there was a public outcry because the subject, a black woman was ostensibly pressured racially because one of the male prospects was an unsuitable black man, I kid you not.

And they're constantly walking on eggshells, going out of their way not to acknowledge race because that's racist. Most Americans know anyone saying "I don't see race" is a red flag, but if you ask a Brit to describe, say, LeBron James, they will describe everything from his height, to size of his feet. Everything except mentioning he's black which, of course, they didn't notice. It's hilarious, when you think about it.

So, no. Rishi Sunak will not become PM. Some of the votes may have been swayed by his race but you'll never hear it.

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by Anonymousreply 92July 29, 2022 6:50 AM

R92, Sunak (along with Sajid Javid, the former Health Secretary) is seen as the person who precipitated the departure of all those other Ministers. Sunak and Javid both resigned within minutes of each other, so to Party members it looks like it they co-ordinated their resignations for maximum effect. It was after their departure that the wave of resignations began.

This pisses off The Tory membership, who see it as analogous to the situation with Margaret Thatcher, where a leader who remains hugely popular with the Party is killed off by Tory MPs who fear that the leader has become a political liability in the eyes of the UK electorate.

In the case of Thatcher’s downfall, her perceived political assassin, Michael Hestletine, was seen as the front-runner to succeed her, but the Party turned against him for his perceived treachery and a coalition from all wings of the party voted for John Major instead.

In today’s situation, both Javid and Sunak are seen (by the Conservative members) as having killed off a successful Tory PM and as a result Sunak’s campaign has suffered and Javid did even worse. In contrast, Truss (who is actually a fairly weak candidate) is being rewarded for her loyalty to Johnson, gaining votes from both the right of the party (despite her former identity as a Remainer) and from the centre of the party.

by Anonymousreply 93July 29, 2022 9:17 AM

Heseltine, the leading light at the time of Thatcher, never really recovered from pulling the trigger on her, r93. It killed any chance he had for advancement. From the very top Tory hopeful straight down to no hope of ever making top cabinet, much less PM.

I wonder what will happen to the "assassins" this time round.

by Anonymousreply 94July 29, 2022 9:30 AM

I like Sunak but he seems like he's a little bit Aspie. Do others get that impression?

by Anonymousreply 95July 29, 2022 9:32 AM

The truth is, of the top Tories, only Boris Johnson has the kind of charisma that win general elections. I hope Labour don't blow this opportunity they've been handed on a plate.

by Anonymousreply 96July 29, 2022 11:12 AM

It boggles the mind why the US government is even allowing Victor Orban to enter the country. He and Putin should be on a permanent exclusion list.

by Anonymousreply 97July 29, 2022 11:15 AM

What does Victor Orban have to do with this?

by Anonymousreply 98July 29, 2022 2:33 PM

R94 At least it paved the way for John Major, a fundamentally decent man who took the knives out of Thatcherism and gave the country seven solid years.

by Anonymousreply 99July 29, 2022 2:36 PM

I'm just grateful evil bitch Priti Patel doesn't seem to be in the running.

by Anonymousreply 100July 29, 2022 2:48 PM

R99 I'm sure the Major government was seven solid years.

Just as long as we ignore back to basics, the ERM fiasco and the ensuing recession (still the worst in British history), Europe, the age of consent failure, the legalisation of payday lending, the legalisation of buy to let mortgages, the beginning of pension fund raiding that would ultimately dismantle private pension provision, the UK's first attempt at ID cards, the disasterous privatisation of British Rail (something even Thatcher wouldn't contemplate), Europe again, the Criminal Justice Act, crime reaching its highest recorded level under Major, multiple prison riots, and even more Europe.

by Anonymousreply 101July 29, 2022 3:03 PM

Mr Sunak shows too much ambition.

by Anonymousreply 102July 30, 2022 12:50 AM

R100 She's not. The fact she didn't throw her hat into the ring shows she realises she's not very popular. I daresay she has the ambition to be PM, but her ego would have hated being knocked out early, so she stayed in her box.

She's a smirking, bullying, smarmy individual. I can't stand her (if it wasn't obvious).

by Anonymousreply 103July 30, 2022 9:35 AM

There is such a thing as a 'model minority'. Sunak is it. Indians are pretty respectable in the eyes of UK Tory voters. He is also appropriately posh, southern and privately educated. It's a good thing he is not muslim, most of the real hate is directed at them. The wife being a non-dom IS a big problem, but it would also be a problem were she white.

That said, he's not going to win. He has refused to pander to the most extreme disastercapitalist fantasy economics of Tory members, and he knifed Boris. The End.

by Anonymousreply 104July 30, 2022 9:47 AM

Indian coverage.

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by Anonymousreply 105August 6, 2022 6:06 PM

Is he cut or uncut?

by Anonymousreply 106August 6, 2022 6:17 PM

[quote] Is there any level of pushback to Rishi Sunak because he is Indian?

I'm sure there are an equal number, if not more, who pushback because Truss is a woman. People have all kinds of biases.

by Anonymousreply 107August 6, 2022 6:20 PM

R106 He has unmutilated cockmeat. It must taste like a fabulous currywurst.....

by Anonymousreply 108August 6, 2022 6:27 PM

Honestly, yes.

The Tories like to say they are a meritocracy and are proud of their 2 female PMs but the reality is that they are Conservative. As is hankering after a rose-tinted view of the past where they didn’t have to pay tax and people knew their place.

They Conservative voters who will select the leader would be fine with Sunak over anything Labor offers but they are more comfortable with Truss.

by Anonymousreply 109August 6, 2022 6:35 PM

R108 or more like curried smegma 🤢

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by Anonymousreply 111August 6, 2022 7:27 PM

^ UK is so woke now the Tudors are black.

by Anonymousreply 112August 6, 2022 7:27 PM

The British are such bigots. As bad as Americans. After all they were the inspiration.

by Anonymousreply 113August 6, 2022 8:04 PM

Texas is full of Indian immigrants and they're all Republicans. Deport them.

by Anonymousreply 114August 7, 2022 12:25 AM

R110 You are an shameless smegmaphone. Begone with thee. barbarian.

by Anonymousreply 115August 10, 2022 11:19 AM

I am a Conservative member and I voted for Liz Truss. I love Rishi but he is too tight with the purse

by Anonymousreply 116August 10, 2022 11:28 AM

He’s too tight with the purse? She’s planning to cut taxes!

by Anonymousreply 117August 10, 2022 11:30 AM

Actually OP it’s simply because he is a cunt. So is Truss in the interests of fairness.

by Anonymousreply 118August 10, 2022 11:32 AM

That’s what I meant. He has increased taxes

by Anonymousreply 119August 10, 2022 11:32 AM

How to manage the cost of living crisis of not raising taxes? His solution seems more economically viable

by Anonymousreply 120August 10, 2022 11:36 AM

He needs to play the race card and say he's black and so they won't let him be the rightful leader. Guilt trip them into supporting him.

by Anonymousreply 121August 10, 2022 11:50 AM

Lol Brits love to act superior to Americans in almost every aspect of life and society - even when they’re considered basically lower class in the UK. They’re so full of pretentious shit. So many of them visit the US and openly diss / insult / critique American society yet also would kill to move here if they could.

At least in the US we are now fairly open about our issues with race etc. instead of playing the pretend game.

by Anonymousreply 122August 11, 2022 7:51 PM

The British Empire committed atrocities and enacted genocides. Starving populations to death. I think only the Belgians and Japanese can be compared with cruelty. Not just Indigenous American and Aboriginal people suffered but also Jews, Irish, Indians and Chinese. The Irish famine is completely insane. I don't understand how it's bad for Americans to be patriotic yet okay for the British to be proud of their Empire.

While the Spanish, French and Portuguese were not without cruelty but at least allowed citizenship to the Indigenous and gave black slaves more freedom and allowed for interracial mixing to occur. Also because of Catholicism, the Natives and slaves were all baptized thus were seen as brethren despite being at the bottom of society. Noticed how in Latin American countries, there are still heavy populations of indigenous peoples or people with heavy indigenous admixture while The US, Canada and Australia are predominantly white with the indigenous populations being less than 2%.

Slavery in the Anglo-Caribbean was especially awful like Jamaica and Barbados. Haiti and Brazil's slave revolts happened because the rules were so lax. While the British tended to worked the slaves to death. Also the British created the ideas of racial purity, White Anglo-Saxon Protestant supremacy and added scientific racism into the equation to justify it. So blacks and Natives were never qualifed to be equal citizens and the one-drop rule ensured that they would be permanent underclass. Also The British used Irish and Scottish slaves in the Caribbean which broke the code in many European kingdoms to not enslave other Europeans.

by Anonymousreply 123August 11, 2022 8:24 PM

Indians are pretty hated right now...

hinduphobia has moved up to compete with antisemitism on campuses now... unsurprisingly by many of the same groups.

there's only one true religion accepted on campuses and in social justice movements. . . but only the in its most fundamentalist form.

by Anonymousreply 124August 11, 2022 9:09 PM

Any "Hinduphobia" in the UK is 100% made up of the UK's Muslims, who hate them with the fire of a thousand suns, UK Muslims generally hate most non-Muslims, but they save their special hate for the Jewish and Hindu populations.

Everyone else in the UK loves the Hindu British population. They are a complete plus to the country in every way, and a joy to have around.

by Anonymousreply 125August 11, 2022 9:44 PM

Americans please stop projecting your racism and prejudices to the U.K. just so you can feel better about yourselves. Nobody cares if he is of Indian background, just look at the profiles of the original 12 contenders. His “sin” is that he is a billionaire by marriage and his wife avoided paying taxes in the U.K. . And please stop associating the Conservative party with 🇺🇸 republicans, they have nothing in common, the conservatives are the equivalent of the old Democratic Party and Labour now could be compared to the Bernie sanders wing of the democrats

by Anonymousreply 126August 11, 2022 10:13 PM

Let’s bow to the amazing Kemi Badenoch of the Conservative Party, she will be prime minister

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by Anonymousreply 127August 11, 2022 10:24 PM

A 'race card' would imply a special set of privileges and/or access, r121; would you care to elaborate what those are?

by Anonymousreply 128August 11, 2022 10:41 PM

R123 the native Arabs began what we know as the slave trade, and they're still openly perpetuating it, now. The current Emirates see no issue with it.

The British have officially denounced slavery, stepped back from it, and tried to make some reparations and mend international fences (as much as one can, for such atrocity). No excuses for continuing to abet the Arabs in their nefarious and shameless use of slaves in the present day, though.

by Anonymousreply 129August 11, 2022 10:50 PM

All I hear Brits on Twitter talk about. Is how much of a sad dark miserable place of an island England is.

I believe it. No wonder so many brits want to live in America. That stiff upper lip shit is killing people.

by Anonymousreply 130August 12, 2022 12:56 AM

R126, yeah, because Jimmy Carter was shipping refugees to Rwanda. Sure.

by Anonymousreply 131August 12, 2022 1:34 PM

Something that I think isn’t taken into acccount re. the slavery/colonisation issue between the U.K. & U.S. is the Mather of objectice logistics.

Setting aside for a moment the obvious massive ethics of the matter—Great Britain simply does not have the physical land space or the resources to cope with the population. It’s a tiny island trying to support too many millions. The U.S. on the other hand is at least as big as half of all Europe, a surplus of space and land for people and industry and agriculture.

by Anonymousreply 132August 12, 2022 1:51 PM

He's just a weirdo, a la Mark Zuckerberg. He playacts at being human and regular people pick up on it instinctly.

by Anonymousreply 133August 12, 2022 2:10 PM

I hate them both so don’t give a shit which one is elected.

To the poster commenting on Hindus hating Muslims and vice versa I would agree. The mother of one of my friends used to have a hierarchy of acceptable husbands for her daughters and brown Muslims came below white people in her list. Top of her list were of course other Hindus from the same region. People from African-Caribbean backgrounds were at the bottom. She was a lovely woman on the face of it but really a dreadful racist.

by Anonymousreply 134August 12, 2022 2:29 PM

That’s interesting, R134. I know a gorgeous Indian from the UK and her husband is Afro-Caribbean.

by Anonymousreply 135August 12, 2022 2:32 PM

R135, my friend was in a relationship with a man who was mixed race - white and African-Caribbean. She lived with the fellow for years and never told her mother. Just made out she was sharing with friends. They eventually split up and her new partner is white. He did eventually get an introduction to the family but not for a few years,

by Anonymousreply 136August 12, 2022 2:39 PM

Sunak is unlikeable, stiff as a board and has nothing about him. The media don’t make much of him being of Indian. Liz Truss is a hard-faced bitch with a no-nonsense attitude and that makes me like her, so fingers crossed for her.

by Anonymousreply 137August 12, 2022 2:44 PM

[quote]my friend was in a relationship with a man who was mixed race - white and African-Caribbean.

A little OT R136, Is it normal in the UK to specify someone is of mixed race rather than just defaulting to black? And where does that leave someone like Lewis Hamilton who identifies as black to an almost militant level even though he has a white mother? Aren't many famous Black Brits, like Thandiwe Newton, essentially half white? Also, would someone who's half Asian and half white be described as mixed race too? Especially since many are white-presenting.

by Anonymousreply 138August 12, 2022 2:55 PM

R138 that's a very good question, and as an all-white Brit I'm not sure how to answer.

You're correct to point out that some famous mixed-race British people seem more identify as being POC than not. Perhaps it depends on what sort of family/community they were raised by or grew up with, ethnically?

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by Anonymousreply 139August 12, 2022 3:46 PM

R134, that doesn’t surprise me at all. I’m obviously biased given that i was raised Muslim (still identify but not really practicing; in general just not a religious person) but in my experience Hindus and many Sikhs in America (can’t speak to the UK) are WAY more racist against Muslims rather the other way around. In my own family, I’ve more than a handful of male and female cousins that married non-Muslims. For some, their parents initially made a huge issue but eventually got over it and accepted. One cousin in particular married a Sikh guy and while her family accepted his (Sikh) family at the outset, his still doesn’t accept hers (5+ years later). They’re not even particularly religious (neither is that cousin’s family).

To be fair, this dynamic may be different when it involves particularly Pakistani Muslims (which I am not) and Indian Hindus, given that history. But people (usually Westerners) make this assumption that Hindus are all peace loving and accepting of everyone etc. I have nothing against them at all as I have many Indian friends etc but experience tells a very different story. Just look at Modi…

by Anonymousreply 140August 12, 2022 5:10 PM

R130 Brits love to complain about Britain. They're the opposite of Americans and all our Fucking USA USA USA. Patriotism is not a quality whereas in the US it's pushed to the outer extremes of jingoism. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

by Anonymousreply 141August 12, 2022 11:20 PM

R37 We have plenty of Indians here and they do just fine.

by Anonymousreply 142August 12, 2022 11:31 PM

R142 no they fucking don't. They're all a bunch of Republicans. Pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 143August 13, 2022 2:00 AM

R141 complaining about anything is a British way of life. It's almost our personality hallmark.

And we've written some lovely songs, books and plays about being a bit miserable and disgruntled and apathetic.

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by Anonymousreply 144August 13, 2022 9:13 PM

r134 I never said that Hindus hate muslims. They might tend to avoid them, but that is because the Muslims are often quite open about their hatred for Hindus, so interactions might be strained. None of my Hindu friends exhibit 'hatred' for Muslims, only a slight fear of them and reticence around them. They just avoid them and otherwise remain quiet on the issue.

West Indians have been abused by the Muslim population too: there was a documentary made about it. The conclusion of the documentary is that the UK muslims tend to be racist as well as bigoted toward non-Muslims in general. Having said that, back when this documentary was made, most of the UK Muslims were of Pakistani origin. Since then there has been a significant rise in the Somali Muslim population, so I don't whether that has positively affected the way that UK Muslims in general interact with the black population in general.

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by Anonymousreply 145August 13, 2022 9:28 PM

^^^^ I found a copy of the documentary, if anyone is interested in watching. It was VERY controversial at the time and UK Muslims threatened Trevor Philip over it, sending him into temporary hiding after it aired.

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by Anonymousreply 146August 13, 2022 9:34 PM

I want to make a correction to my comments at r145 and r146. The documentary I was referring to was Darcus Howe's, not the one by Trevor Philips.

Here's a clip:

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by Anonymousreply 147August 13, 2022 9:52 PM

And a longer clip:

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by Anonymousreply 148August 13, 2022 9:53 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 149August 18, 2022 11:23 AM

The racists will be voting for UKIP-type of parties anyway, so I don't really think it's an issue for Sunak, or only a small one.

by Anonymousreply 150August 18, 2022 11:30 AM

It’s pretty funny that (presumably) British people are dismissing this accomplished, qualified person’s dark skin/ethnic identity as a factor in his massive loss to nightmare battle axe moron Truss. This seems like denial.

by Anonymousreply 151August 18, 2022 2:46 PM

R151 I don't really think it is if you understand the Tory members. They are more interested in things like tax cuts and class. Sunak is a rich, privately educated twat. The problem is that he's too much like Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband in his awkward manner and way he has been Chancellor. That's the real issue. Yes, the UK has plenty of racists but know your audience here.

by Anonymousreply 152August 18, 2022 3:25 PM

Liz Truss is already talking like she's already in the job. He had no chance.

by Anonymousreply 153August 26, 2022 1:50 AM

Acromegaly is unappealing in any ethnicity.

by Anonymousreply 154August 26, 2022 1:53 AM

Sunak was born in Southampton.

by Anonymousreply 155August 26, 2022 3:56 AM

Yeah, Southampton, Gujarat.

by Anonymousreply 156August 26, 2022 4:02 AM

Sorry to ask a stupid question - but when is the vote to decide the PM. And it's just the Conservative Party members? or an even smaller group - Conservative MPs?

by Anonymousreply 157August 26, 2022 5:59 AM

^

The party membership gets to vote. The new PM will be announced on September 5th.

by Anonymousreply 158August 26, 2022 7:37 AM

I'm British.

Dislike against Rishi Sunak is all to do with how much money his wife has. Britons are facing a winter where they will have to choose between fuel and food. Not the poor people who are used to that choice anyway, but the middle class. Sunak won't have to make that choice.

I second the person who said that Hindu's are a great addiction to the country and very few people have a problem with them.

Racism today is generally about Islam. Islam is both a religion and a political belief. Neither of those things are above criticism in the UK and nor should they be. But no one is allowed to criticise Muslims to the degree that there have been grooming gangs here for 40 years and the police have NEVER acted on them. Every thing was covered up by the powers that be. British people are really pissed off about it.

I think 'Tommy' refers to Tommy Robinson, aka the man who cannot be named. He comes from a background of racism. He now devotes his time to calling out Islam. He has made documentataries about the grooming gangs which forced the police to act on the information and made people aware of what was going on. Obviously other people were trying to bring attention to it but they were called racist and Islamophobic and not allowed to speak. Tommy Robinson has been put in jail more than once and is quick to start punching. There's tonnes of stuff on YouTube about him.

Illegal immigration is a problem here. None of the people landing on the beaches are refugees. They're economic migrants and we've now found that a lot of them are from Albania. They're also crossing from France which is a safe space so they are not fleeing danger. The real refugees are stuck in the most horrendous refugee camps in various parts of the world. Those are the people we should be helping. That too is pissing Briton's off.

Please don't judge British people by the TV programmes that are made. We're not that woke. Most people I know don't watch woke crap. It's never good so why would you waste your time?

by Anonymousreply 159August 26, 2022 8:50 AM

Thank. you R158. Don't know anything about her so I'll be interested in seeing how it turns out. Boris was a hoot!

by Anonymousreply 160August 26, 2022 5:43 PM

He's got several hundred million and she has half a billion. I think they are too rich for politics. Ick.

by Anonymousreply 161August 26, 2022 5:48 PM

I'm not British, but from what I've seen abiut Sunak isn't good. He seems really arrogant and elitist, as well as thinking he's better than others. Especially those lower than him on the socioeconomic ladder. And that interview of him when he was young from 2000 doesn't help either.

Glad he'll never be PM. England is letting him know where his place is.

by Anonymousreply 162August 26, 2022 9:49 PM

[quote]to the degree that there have been grooming gangs here for 40 years and the police have NEVER acted on them.

What's a grooming gang? I hope it's nothing to do with a dog grooming syndicate.

by Anonymousreply 163August 27, 2022 2:52 AM

R163 A grooming gang is a group of men who rape teenage girls. They 'groom' them with all kinds of promises and claims of love etc and then pass them around so that they can be raped by others. Some of the girls were as young as 11.

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by Anonymousreply 164August 27, 2022 7:21 AM

UK criminal activity is so weird. First the knife-crime in London (seriously? Knives is the best you could do?) now this "grooming".

by Anonymousreply 165August 27, 2022 1:30 PM

^ Of course linked from right-wing UK site.

by Anonymousreply 166August 27, 2022 4:57 PM

Media manufacturing of the 'Muslim grooming gangs' crisis

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by Anonymousreply 167August 27, 2022 5:02 PM

Media manufacturing of the 'Muslim grooming gangs' crisis

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by Anonymousreply 168August 27, 2022 5:03 PM

Coronation Street, which is extremely middle of the road politically, had a grooming gang storyline. The groomers were white; makes me think that the Muslim focus of many stories needs scrutiny.

by Anonymousreply 169August 27, 2022 5:06 PM

R169 Go ahead and scrutinise. Come back when you've come up with some conclusions. Coronation Street is fictional, you might want to remember that.

by Anonymousreply 170August 27, 2022 5:55 PM

R169, a lot of extreme media on both sides is fiction, too. Please go suck some more UKIP cock.

by Anonymousreply 171August 27, 2022 6:12 PM

^meant for r170

by Anonymousreply 172August 27, 2022 6:12 PM

Wasn't there a Pakistani gang grooming young girls for years in Birmingham? And weren't non Muslim female teachers told to wear head scarves in that same city?

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by Anonymousreply 173August 27, 2022 6:52 PM

R171 Yes a lot of extremist arguments are fiction. But the scandal of the grooming gangs isn't. Despite police, councils, and more pretending it was fiction, the truth came out.

Oh, and the only cock I suck is my husbands. And he isn't UKIP but then neither am I.

by Anonymousreply 174August 28, 2022 7:01 AM

I feel like when Muslims are involved in criminal activity, it reflects negatively for the entire community in a way that white criminals don't. Of course there white groomers but their race won't be reported.

by Anonymousreply 175August 28, 2022 7:16 AM

R175 I don't know why the Muslim community haven't thrown these men out. At the trials, they had loads of supporters cheering them and shouting 'Allahu Akbar'.

Within Britain, these men have brought Islam into disrepute, which is huge thing to do. Why haven't the mosques pointed that out? Why have we not seen protesters in the street, carrying signs that say 'Not my Islam' or some such thing?

by Anonymousreply 176August 28, 2022 7:52 AM

^probably because most Muslims have daily pressing concerns as cooks/cleaners/teachers/doctors/lawyers and like most Brits just want to live their lives.

by Anonymousreply 177August 28, 2022 8:22 AM

^ Too busy for "Not my Islam" protests/activism but almost always have time for "Anti-Islamophobia" protests/activism.

by Anonymousreply 178August 28, 2022 8:27 AM

Sorry I meant to say "I'm not* r176"

by Anonymousreply 179August 28, 2022 8:27 AM

I don't follow British politics closely but I have heard that the female (sorry, I've forgotten her name) is expected to win, not the Indian (whose name I can remember because it's in the title of this thread).

by Anonymousreply 180August 28, 2022 8:30 AM

Literally everybody in the race was going to beat Sunak when it got down to two. The parliamentary party is out of touch with the grassroots.

by Anonymousreply 181August 28, 2022 9:19 AM

Liz Truss is a legendary slag. Has there ever been a more promiscuous woman in charge of a country? Catherine the Great, perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 182August 28, 2022 9:22 AM

R182 Liz T is nothing in comparison to the men, dear.

by Anonymousreply 183August 28, 2022 9:24 AM

Dear r182, why do you think I specified sex? Thank you for playing, prick.

by Anonymousreply 184August 28, 2022 9:26 AM

R182, thank you for your faith in me and my barely used poosy, my darling. I wasn't in charge of the country but I was First Ladees, this is almost same thing.

by Anonymousreply 185August 28, 2022 9:39 AM

[quote] but I was First Ladees, this is almost same thing.

This is what I keep telling them!

by Anonymousreply 186August 28, 2022 9:48 AM

Sunak over that Truss creature any day on so many levels.

by Anonymousreply 187August 28, 2022 10:00 AM

Is Truss down syndrome?

by Anonymousreply 188August 28, 2022 10:06 AM

R188 Nah, she's just retarded.

by Anonymousreply 189August 28, 2022 10:09 AM

R189 Me view too. Retard like my brother.

by Anonymousreply 190August 28, 2022 10:28 AM

[quote] "Bloody Wog!"

Are you certain of your terminology? As I always understood it the Bloody Wogs were the dark but not black eastern Mediterranean types. Northeast Africans, Turks, and Greeks. The people from India had another word I'm not allowed to use here but Agatha Christie did.

Or very tiny spies.

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by Anonymousreply 191August 28, 2022 11:20 AM

Announcement tomorrow. Truss has already called the moving company.

by Anonymousreply 192September 4, 2022 7:51 AM

r176 It's not as safe for muslims in the UK to say such things as it is in Canada and the U.S. - which still face harassment and attacks. But the UK brand seems to be several notches above that. The frequent of the last few years has been home invasions than targeting the individual solely. Of course, there's been worse... but when speaking out puts your family at risk, the public trust shrugs their shoulders and officers are inclined to say you incited it. More people are apt to stay silent.

Now there are public reformers, of course, but they tend get silenced and crowded out by the loudest voices in the room. And that tends to send them advocating for changes from the safety of another nation or coming off like complete nutters. Albeit, a few also give into sensationalism because even the media won't respond to you if you're not causing a fuss.

You ever try to be the rational person standing between two angry groups?

Most people aren't cut out to do it alone. So, they end up creating groups, the groups still end up being too small, so they create alliances.. and sometimes those alliances link them to undesirable types. And they end up becoming extremists of another sort and losing their reforming credit.

by Anonymousreply 193September 4, 2022 8:18 AM

Larry the Cat for PM....

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by Anonymousreply 194September 4, 2022 5:12 PM

They're both awful and potentially worse than Boris.

by Anonymousreply 195September 4, 2022 11:25 PM

Boris is a buffoon but Truss is the British version of deSantis, completely unscrupulous.

by Anonymousreply 196September 4, 2022 11:30 PM

I'd love to grab her by the pussy. She'd love it.

by Anonymousreply 197September 6, 2022 9:06 AM

The three most important cabinet secretaries chosen by Truss are: 2 black guys and an Indian woman. Chancellor, Foreign Secretary and Home Secretary. They're all fucking conservatives but her cabinet is a lot more diverse than Biden's.

by Anonymousreply 198September 10, 2022 10:26 PM

[quote]Truss is the British version of deSantis, completely unscrupulous.

Absolute bullshit. If you did your research, you would see she has never voted against gay rights, and she isn’t a disgusting loudmouth like DeSantis. Not even the same category.

by Anonymousreply 199September 10, 2022 10:32 PM

Truss is a Tory not a rightwing Republican. She's pro-gay rights, pro-abortion, etc. Tories area basically like blue dog Democrats as politics in the US has veered so far to the right.

by Anonymousreply 200September 10, 2022 10:43 PM

Truss doesn't believe that trans women are women. In fairness, neither does Sunak.

by Anonymousreply 201September 12, 2022 7:28 AM

Transwomen are not women. They're straight men playing dress-up.

by Anonymousreply 202September 13, 2022 7:18 PM
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