DLers: Have you gotten your Monkeypox vaccine yet?

Sounds like SteamWorks, of course.

be careful whores!

I got mine June 23rd. I've been laid approximately zero times since, but I'm ready...

I don’t think they even rolled out the vaccine in the vast majority of places. All I heard about is NY. If they did, horrible messaging.

Whorepox

[quote] But his health care provider said the city’s health department would not be able to pick up his sample till Tuesday, June 21, after the Juneteenth holiday.

So they're trying to blame this on Blacks?

Don't rain on my cabaret, Schluttypoxsch!

I didn’t even realize men in their 40’s even go to bathhouses. I assumed it was guys in their 60’s

The guy quoted in the article is a floppy bottom and got fucked over and over at Steamworks. He mentions the rash on his ass

Baths serve a purpose. Making a good decision isn't it.

I’m in New York and haven’t had sex since the outbreak started. Maybe if this guy hadn’t been a whore at a bathhouse he wouldn’t be going through this now. If everyone stopped having sex with strangers for one month the disease would stopping spreading and then we could go back to business as usual.

I don’t think people are getting it just from sex. It seems that just being close to someone may be spreading it

Are eldergays who got the smallpox vaccine immune?

No instead I blew an orangutan last weekend to get natural immunity.

[Quote] eight days after he had multiple sexual encounters at a bathhouse in Chicago.

Bet he had fun though

Fun and regret, unless he's a total moron.

R15, his rash will go away but you will still be celibate in your mom’s basement

Get well soon, R15. I'm sure the scars can't really make you any uglier in the figurative sense.

Monkeypox patient tweets about his experience:

So now the sluts are so brave for sharing that they caught an asshole wrecking virus after spending a weekend taking on all the dicks they could sit on at the bathhouse?

I’ll have to give up some of my regulars for safety reasons.

some kid hit me up on grindr the other day looking for 'gen'

I was like -- tempting but covid, monkeypox...pass

tho it would have been nice to have been held for a bit.

Here we fucking go. Covid 2

CIDRAP knows what it is talking about. The good news is it is still potentially something that can be resolved.

R18, his story sounds horrendous!

Yes, there should be easier access to anti-virals and vaccines. Sadly, he doesn't get any treatment for the disease itself--just for the itching and pain.

This vaccine process is a mess.

Most of the guys clamoring for the vaccine are a mess too.

How does the tall grass play into it?

The vaccine process just isn't capable of ramping up quickly in response to epidemics. Yes, we have vaccines but we needs hundreds of thousand of doses. When only one company makes it, it takes alot of time. Too much time to stop something as easily transmitted as Monkeypox

Boo hoo my heart bleeds purple piss for those who fuck everything and get sick.

I read the smallpox vaccine provides immunization.

The vaccine process sucks that's true, but these dumb party sluts blew it up almost entirely!

Just got a news flash of the first monkeypox case in my flyover city of 200,000 residents.

The current strain of monkeypox rarely kills anyone in good health, and the blisters it leaves behind do not leave one forever marked the way smallpox blisters do.

It's like getting a really horrible fever for a few days, with a painful rash and blisters that go away. Since I'm no longer slutty I doubt I'll get immunized for it. if I were in my slutty phase, though, i absolutely would.

[quote] Boo hoo my heart bleeds purple piss for those who fuck everything and get sick.

Why should people who have sex alot be condemned to getting sick?

Why must you stick Judeo-Christian moralizing onto gay men having sex?

Are you glad when fat people get heart attacks? People who run alot get hip problems? Those who drive alot get into accidents?

Because that’s how it goes asshole

[quote] some kid hit me up on grindr the other day looking for 'gen'

What is 'gen'?

It's not about sex R34, it's about selfish scene queens who can't be bothered to stop going to bathhouses and sex parties and who refuse to protect themselves much less anyone else.

[quote] Why must you stick Judeo-Christian moralizing onto gay men having sex?

That's not it. I came of age sexually in the 80s when having indiscriminate gay sex meant death. I have no belief system about gay sex, I just think gay men have to be extra circumspect about homosex while Monkeypox is raging -- to protect themselves and others.

R36, "gen" means "generous" -- with your money.

I am a nurse in Denver. I was retired, but went back to work giving Covid vaccinations. I got to vaccinate in a couple of gay bars, which was really fun….my old ass hadn’t been to a club in years. In any case, I’m scheduled to do a monkey pox clinic next week. We don’t have a lot of doses, so people need to fill out a form online and be approved to get it. We are only giving it to healthcare workers who may have been exposed, and gay or bisexual men who have had multiple partners recently. I’m hoping to make some new friends.

r40, do you know if the smallpox vaccine protects against MP?

How long after the vaccine does one need to wait for a protective immune response? Does the vaccine, after it has done its immune work, protect against infection? Or does the vaccine merely tamp down the symptoms of infection.

gays are being blamed for more virulent and contagious forms of covid

What if the blamed gays are indeed responsible for the spread r43? What then??

So you're hoping to pick up a few sluts at work R40?

R38 I’m surprised that after coming of age in the 80s and living thru the AIDS epidemic that you’d still think abstinence is going to be an effective method of controlling a communicable STD in the general population. Seems like you learned……..absolutely nothing? The responsibility lies with the proper health authorities to control the spread, and they’re doing next to nothing.

r5 If they were going to do that.. they would have brought the previous epidemic which primarily hit the African American population but discussion was kept to a minimal in the national press out of fear of racism. But inciting homophobia is perfecty acceptable.

[quote] it's about selfish scene queens who can't be bothered to stop going to bathhouses and sex parties and who refuse to protect themselves much less anyone else.

The ONLY way to "protect" yourself from Monkeypox is to become celibate. Condoms alone won't protect you.

Yes, small pox vaccine will give alot of immunity, even years later, to MP. The newer MP vaccine, however, is better.

[quote] How long after the vaccine does one need to wait for a protective immune response? Does the vaccine, after it has done its immune work, protect against infection? Or does the vaccine merely tamp down the symptoms of infection.

It takes two weeks to get a strong immune response BUT this is a two doze vaccination, like COVID

r46 when hiv/aids became more manageable in the 90s, in the 2000s, we saw safer sex initiatives pushed aside for a bipartisan effort towards abstinence only program.

the end result of that led to young str8 people becoming obsessed with anal because the messaging they got was vaginal intercourse was sacred but anal was the loophole. . . it became such a trend both young lasses and lads enjoyed creating vids telling their parents about how much they enjoyed eating ass.

Now all this is less about sex, really, it's the hold over from coivd, I believe... remember all the rage about homosexual breaking shutdown for parties? They also enjoyed targeting Jews. But we were to keep silent on politicians and rioters, even the cdc gave them their approval to mingle.

[quote] they would have brought the previous epidemic which primarily hit the African American population but discussion was kept to a minimal in the national press out of fear of racism. But inciting homophobia is perfecty acceptable.

What previous MP epidemic?

The problem is we have to stop blaming people and how they apparent act for epidemics.

[quote] the end result of that led to young str8 people becoming obsessed with anal because the messaging they got was vaginal intercourse was sacred but anal was the loophole. . . it became such a trend both young lasses and lads enjoyed creating vids telling their parents about how much they enjoyed eating ass.

huh?

R51 you are stupid as owl shit.

r52 There have been several outbreaks of other strains of monkeypox. Honestly, a few of us did complain with how that was handled then too... with essentially blaming the community at hand in discriminatory ways than addressing it pragmatically. They were trying too hard to speak to the people on their level rather than just provide basic facts... and it created backlash on the peripheral within the communities this was happening.

r53 Were you asleep during the purity pledge craze of the bush jr era? It filtered into pop culture... and there was also media panic about young girls wearing braclets... which was supposedly a sign of how often they gave head or had anal.

r54 Aren't you charming.

r53 it's difficult to find archival records with media when they become embarassed of hysteria they spread, but here's a reference from limited snopes

[quote] [R36], "gen" means "generous" -- with your money.

Couldn't you just have written out "generous" and not used your generation-specific slang terms? Most of us are not Zoomers.

it's strange how much of a memory hole there is in regards to how much safer sex was promoted in the 90s, or the aggressive abstinence programs that followed, even though they were widely made fun... they were quite creepy. the religious right took it further with creepy purity balls.

^

I'm borderline eldergay and have been a virtual hermit since the pandemic started, so the monkeypox vax is the one I actually **don't** need.

Shingles, that's a different story......

R57 I’m not that poster but it’s very commonly used. It’s like complaining about someone saying ‘top’ instead of ‘insertive partner’ lol.

Mama! I gots me the Monkeypox!!!

I guess life isn’t a banquet for Mr. Medical Writer.

I'm self-isolating.

UNAIDS warns that stigmatizing language on Monkeypox jeopardises public health

I read that someone who was at the Club Dallas baths tested positive for monkeypox last week. I can't believe that guys are still going to the baths with monkeypox and Covid raging. Stay out of the baths!

Stay out of the baths until this leaves our land! We have to be patient and responsible until this situation is controlled.

223 cases in NYC!

perhaps we should return to having medical specialists willing to donate their time and services to public baths and sex clubs as they did in the past (and still do in some locations) by offering on-site testing (or examination). . . as to what had become common in decades past.

It's more effective than suggesting the gays should stay at home, being ashamed of themselves or joining a masculine nonsexual activity, like a (lesbian) bowling league to combat their frou frou whoring.

There's still no concrete proof that it travels in sperm and vaginal fluids--so skin to skin is the main mode of transmission that scientists agree upon. Also can be gotten through contact with bedding and towels and such.

Its doubling every week.

R49, there are, apparently, millions of smallpox vaccines in cold storage, but the new Monkeypox-specific vaccine has fewer potential side effects.

[quote]I’m not that poster but it’s very commonly used. It’s like complaining about someone saying ‘top’ instead of ‘insertive partner’ lol.

No, it's nothing like that, and it's not "very commonly used." Maybe within certain online spaces among certain demographics.

[quote]I’m surprised that after coming of age in the 80s and living thru the AIDS epidemic that you’d still think abstinence is going to be an effective method of controlling a communicable STD in the general population. Seems like you learned……..absolutely nothing? The responsibility lies with the proper health authorities to control the spread, and they’re doing next to nothing.

Monkey pox is not an STD, and "thru" is not a word. Talk about learning absolutely nothing.

It is now R78, at least in the eyes of the world, a gay one.

R78 not technically - but it is a disease that is being spread (in its current outbreak) generally thru sex.

Thru is generally accepted as fine for informal text, I’m not writing a thesis here lol. Your little pedant schtick is boring and dumb.

R72 We deserve to be stigmatised for this. It's not even an STD and is now a fucking mutated pandemic because sluts cant refrain from fucking people with open fucking sored all over their bodies.

The sluts are going to create Super Pox just because they can't stop taking loads.

You’re a very tedious broken record r82

what is the name of the vaccine?

When they report the current strange symptoms (unlike African cases) seen on anus and genital, I have a feeling that almost (?) none of the genital cases involves vagina.

R84, it’s called JYNNEOS.

R85 if it’s a female to male trans, that bonus hole is a man’s sexual organ, and would be reported as such in the media and in medical data.

Who know, maybe all the monkeypox victims are Elliot Page wannabes.

[quote] [R38] I’m surprised that after coming of age in the 80s and living thru the AIDS epidemic that you’d still think abstinence is going to be an effective method of controlling a communicable STD in the general population. Seems like you learned……..absolutely nothing? The responsibility lies with the proper health authorities to control the spread, and they’re doing next to nothing.

Listen, whore @r46! There is a whole freaking continuum between "abstinence" and "indiscriminate gay sex." We are LUCKY to have prep and a monkeypox vaccine. Health authorities have offered free monkeypox vaccinations in big cities to gay men at high-risk. However, in case you haven't been paying attention gay men are NOT a socio-politically advantaged group, not in 1982 or 2022. What living thru AIDs taught me is that the rest of the world wouldn't mind if every gay man dropped dead tomorrow, and the folks who want you dead are NOT going to save you.

Gay men need to be vigilant about their own health because we are not a cultural priority.

I love the thumbnail image of the anonymous medical writer showing off his ass in those jeans.

It’s now showing up in some kids

"the end result of that led to young str8 people becoming obsessed with anal because the messaging they got was vaginal intercourse was sacred but anal was the loophole. . . it became such a trend both young lasses and lads enjoyed creating vids telling their parents about how much they enjoyed eating ass."

LOL, few straight people are obsessed with anal and even fewer are creating videos telling their parents how much they enjoy eating ass.

Just get the vaccine and take sensible precautions. Haven’t we learned anything from Covid?

Apparently, the fabulous party sluts haven't learned anything R92.

You’re a very tedious broken record R93

[quote] Just get the vaccine

It’s extremely difficult to get the vaccine R92 that’s the whole point. For instance in Los Angeles currently you can only get it if you meet certain criteria, see below:

People with a known exposure to a Public Health confirmed monkeypox case

Persons who attended an where there was high risk of exposure to a confirmed monkeypox case

NEW - Gay and bisexual men and transgender women who are patients of an STD/HIV or community clinic with a diagnosis of rectal gonorrhea or early syphilis within the past 3 months

NEW - A limited number of high-risk individuals identified by high-risk cohorts in the LA County jail.

I don’t need it because I don’t whore around.

[quote] I’ll have to give up some of my regulars for safety reasons.

Don't feed me straight lines, Blanche.

[quote] Gay and bisexual men and transgender women who are

r95 They're now admitting that "trans women are men" only when it's convenient. D.C. too. "Eligible D.C. residents for the vaccination must fall within these categories: [...] Transgender women or nonbinary persons assigned male at birth who have sex with men"

r91 Then apparently you don't know anyone under 50.,

the craze of the parent reveal was a viral trend. Now it's likely a number of the videos were just about shocking their parents and getting reaction but it did happen.

The hysteria with the bracelets... no one really knows where it came from but many had believed it was fueled by the success of the 2003 film Thirteen and the suggestion of Holly Hunter saying that girls try to compete with each other and egg each other on in going further than their ready more than boys do.

As to the popularity of anal among str8 youth... you could pull up countless articles (college sports players who took pictures of women eating out their holes, public hysteria over girls in general, the push of anal pleasure even among white women in entertainment), music references, comedic references, a few television series taking note of the trend - even going far enough to make the connection between the teenage 'conservative' christian rebellion and increased sexual activity with this act in particular, and self admission.

But if you'd like to be socially retarded, that's up to you.

Incidentally, while rimming became popular among str8 youth, dialogue within the lgbt community became more anti-analingus -- unsurprisingly, perhaps, coincides with the rise of asexuals and nonbinary.

^ which there was also recognition in entertainment about pseudo-lgb that would like to have a gay relationship except they find the sex disgusting... and those kind of characters became popular for a while, too.

[quote]so skin to skin is the main mode of transmission that scientists agree upon. Also can be gotten through contact with bedding and towels and such

Which is why bathhouses are the perfect spots for catching it. It's also dark at the baths, so you might not get a good look at someone's skin.

I'm surprised that more people aren't catching it at gyms, especially those with a big gay clientele. Think about how many times your bare skin is lying on benches, or how many times you cover a piece of equipment with your towel and then wipe yourself with it.

Monkeypox is nowhere near as transmissible as COVID-19 and its variants.

It requires a lengthy period of intimacy. Initial cases were saying it was hours, plural, of contact.

R103, just you wait, it's gonna mutate and become airborne.

I just saw that DC is encouraging gay men to get monkeypox vaccines.

To qualify, you have to have had multiple sex partners and/or anonymous sex partners within the past 14 days.

What share of the gay population do you think that applies to? I'm kind of scared to ask...

Probably too many for the vaccine supply to cover R105.

Limited supplies and anger

That guy in r107 needs to an appointment, like a civilized person, instead of moseying on up the clinic after a leisurely lunch of bbq and several 40 oz and expecting to be get the vaccine.

@107, he is Atlanta. I’m sure he just reporting on the issue.

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r110 I love seeing people lining to get a vaccine, even this early on. Do we know how many Jynneos vaccines the US currently has in stock?

No, because Twitter told me I shouldn't and should instead sit around my place feeling guilty about institutional racism instead. I always do what Twitter tells me to do.

[bold]HA!! AS IF!![/bold]

Sad news for circuit queens: Sunday's Alegria Sunrise party has been canceled due to "growing concerns around the Monkeypox outbreak."

Aw...Just think of all the sad cumdumps that were looking forward to their next infusion.

Yesterday, I received an email saying that the Horse Market sex party in Dore Alley on July 23 in San Francisco was canceled.

The party organizer said that he waited 4 hours in line to get vaccinated and then he drove the Horse Market volunteers to SteamWorks Berkeley to get their injections.

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Male-male sex is an extremely efficient means of transmitting infectious disease, both because penetrative anal sex makes transmission high risk and also because men are promiscuous and non-monogamous sluts by nature.

I have a theory that the reason gay sex became totally taboo eons ago is that people probably noticed an obvious correlation of outbreaks among men who had sex with men, and they probably legislated against it to protect the overall population from diseases being introduced. This would also make sense of why male-male sex so often is taboo while female-female sex has been more often accepted, even in populations and times in history when women have had limited rights. It may simply be because of public health interests.

That is literally homophobic, a regulation based on a fear of same-sex activity, but it could be phobic without necessarily being hateful. It could just be based on wanting to protect people and then later down the road ending up dehumanizing people.

I worked with NIH for a decade, especially on drug abuse and addiction issues during the period when meth was at its most popular, and more and more studies began to track specifically MSM use of meth because it was so strongly correlated with sexual transmission of deadly diseases including HIV, hepatitis C and syphilis. If you look in medical research literature, you'll easily find an abundance of research specifically relating to curbing disease outbreaks among MSM communities. Gay communities in densely populated urban areas tend to be hotbeds of infectious disease, and then the worst and most difficult to control and track are men who have sex with men on the "down low" and spread the diseases outside of the gay community.

Save R117 there is no disease specifically linked to gay sex in the historical record.

R118 There are no infectious diseases exclusive to men who have sex with men, but several sexually transmitted diseases are spread most effectively by anal sex and certainly emerge or spread most efficiently among men who have sex with men.

If you want to pretend the HIV/AIDS epidemic was not primarily a "gay issue" early on, then you're free to pretend that.

If you want to pretend that syphilis infection rates are not presently 15 percent higher among men who have sex with men than among the global population, well, that's your choice to live in denial.

[quote]To qualify, you have to have had multiple sex partners and/or anonymous sex partners within the past 14 days.

So you gotta be a hoe to get the shot? Damn!

R120 I'm surprised that most gay men seem to regard that as standard and not at all unusual for any gay man...which is exactly why we are the highest-risk group for any infectious disease spread through sexual transmission.

Anyway, the whole PrEP revolution is a ticking time bomb, whether it's now or in the near future. PrEP is supposed to be used in combination with condoms but no one on PrEP uses condoms, and the trend today is swapping loads with any many men as possible. People say it's homophobic to suggest the successor to AIDS is imminent, but PrEP only prevents HIV, nothing else, and something's a-brewin'.

Okay PTSD gramps ^

Now go back to your coma

Just stop having sex? Is that too much to ask for whores?

My doctor (who has a number of gay patients) says he is presently treating 9 infected men. In South Florida, the vaccination is only available at the gay center in Fort Lauderdale.

R123 advice from fat old incel retards is useless to those who still are desired.

Delete your account

r123 This is literally the exact same argument you see from right-wingers when abortion is discussed.

No, people will not stop having sex. What we need is for the vaccine production to ramp up, so everyone who wants to get vaxxed can do so as soon as possible.

It's supposedly spread by close contact but not necessarily through sexual contact. If that is true, then gay men being the primary population seems kind of bizarre.

On the other hand, I have seen lots of Instahos who regularly go to circuit parties bitching about not being able to get monkeypox vaccinations, so maybe it's the clubby dancing and grinding environment.

95 percent of patients have been gay men, but it's not an STD per se.

So I can continue to bareback with gay abandon?

Now over 10.000 cases. From the biweekly WHO report as of July 6 with 6027 cases, where sex data are available, 99.5% are male. Other country or city-specific data show the consistently similar percentage of males so far.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a vaccine, since it's affecting mostly gay men. Even the most liberal states wouldn't be in a hurry, because it's not affecting women or heterosexual white men.

Ah, New York.

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Would you give up sex for a month if everybody else said they would?

R121 I can’t believe how often I have to say this on here but unless you’re using condoms for blowjobs and dental dams for rimming you’re just as likely to contract all of the bacterial STDs as you are from unprotected anal sex. It’s shocking how bad sex ed is that there are still people like you going around saying this stuff.

The evil sluts seem determined to wipe out the human race.

Zzzzzz^

Finally facts - thanks R128. Not semen like HIV but touching lesions. Not sure that makes complete sense. Seems like guys would be aware not to touch a lesion. My guess is swapping spit has to be a mode of transmission too,

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No and I’m not eating city dude’s asses either.

While 50,000 vaccine doses are on order, public health experts say four times this number will be needed to halt the spread

In UK, there have already been more than 1,850 cases of the disease, which causes painful blisters across the body

Numbers are believed to be doubling every 15 days. These have predominantly been seen in gay men

Virus is passed on through close physical contact, such as sex, but also kissing and hugging

The CDC site is a bit confusing but it looks like after a few days of feeling flu-ish the rash phase starts.

"Following the prodrome (the flu symptoms and swollen glands phases), lesions will develop in the mouth and on the body. Lesions progress through several stages before falling off. A person is contagious from the onset of the enanthem through the scab stage.

Enanthem

The first lesions to develop are on the tongue and in the mouth.

Macules 1−2 days

Following the enanthem, a macular rash appears on the skin, starting on the face and spreading to the arms and legs and then to the hands and feet, including the palms and soles.

The rash typically spreads to all parts of the body within 24 hours becoming most concentrated on the face, arms, and legs (centrifugal distribution). Papules 1−2 days

By the third day of rash, lesions have progressed from macular (flat) to papular (raised).

So there's window where you think you're over the flu and the signs are in your mouth. I don't know about you but as a grinder at night, my mouth is constantly irritated. I could easily write off sensations from MP as the usual irritated mouth lining. Point is, there is a window where you can run around giving head with no idea you're giving a lot more than a blow job and I bet that contributes to a lot of transmission.

Though frankly you're a special kind of stupid if you have flu symptoms these days and don't go get checked. However, we see it in the illogical and screams of sex negative here... sex positives are a special kind of stupid when anything challenges their life as a human drive through.

Unlike Covid this could actually be wiped out by a strategic lockdown. Shut the orgy pits for a month.

Zzzzzz ^

The whole thing sounds gross

And what is the Biden administration doing about it?

[quote]Those who drive alot get into accidents?

Oh, DEAR!

* GERMANY had reported 1,859 cases by July 15.

* PORTUGAL had confirmed 515 cases as of July 13.

* SPAIN had confirmed 2,447 cases by July 12. 👍🐷putas calientes 🍆😎

* The UNITED KINGDOM had 1,856 confirmed cases as of July 14, including 1,778 in England, 46 in Scotland, 12 in Northern Ireland and 20 in Wales.

* CANADA had confirmed 500 infections as of July 14.

* The UNITED STATES had confirmed 1,469 cases by July 14.

[quote]Are you glad when fat people get heart attacks? People who run alot get hip problems? Those who drive alot get into accidents?

Only one of these is due to self-destructive and irresponsible behavior. I, personally, have zero sympathy for people who end up harming themselves by engaging in literal self-harm.

And yes, that includes the fat-asses stuffing their gullets full of saturated fats and excessive carbs. Pizza is not a vegetable. Enjoy your heart disease.

What’s with the lost gay boy on Bernal Heights in OP’s picture?

[quote]And yes, that includes the fat-asses stuffing their gullets full of saturated fats and excessive carbs. Pizza is not a vegetable. Enjoy your heart disease.

What does any of that screed have to do with Monkeypox?

(^.^) Idiot it has to do with the choices we make and the consequences

I got spunky pox splatting out all over!!!!

I really hope this doesn’t turn out to be another AIDS epidemic.

[quote]Idiot it has to do with the choices we make and the consequences

I think some of you have been waiting for this so you can wag your fingers and pass moral judgment.

[quote]Monkeypox is usually a self-limited disease with the symptoms lasting from 2 to 4 weeks. Severe cases can occur. In recent times, the case fatality ratio has been around 3–6%. Monkeypox is transmitted to humans through close contact with an infected person or animal, or with material contaminated with the virus.

This is hardly anything to be overly concerned about. If you have an active sex life, get the vaccine, when you can.

R155 No one's wagging fingers. Just don't throw caution to the wind. I wasn't waiting for this any more than I was waiting for COVID. PS the vaccine is not readily available.

We need to publicize the deaths. There must be some given the numbers cited in R155.

R154 calm down. Monkeypox rarely kills. Aids is a fucking fatal illness

r157 Only confined to Africa so far.

Breitbart is opening with a Monkeypox in NYC article today. 6000 comments so far. Read them if you want to know what’s coming for us.

Or don’t.

Do I need to bother if I don’t have sex?

Former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb on Face the Nation yesterday:

"I think they’re going to be reluctant to use the word pandemic, because it implies that they’ve failed to contain this. And I think at this point, we’ve failed to contain this. We’re now at the cusp of this becoming an endemic virus where this now becomes something that’s persistent that we need to continue to deal with. I think the window for getting control of this and containing it probably has closed, and if it hasn’t closed, it’s certainly starting to close.

We’re probably detecting just a fraction of the actual cases because we have a very, we had for a long time a very narrow case definition on who got tested. And by and large, we’re looking in the community of men who have sex with men and STD clinics. So we’re looking there, we’re finding cases there. But it’s a fact that there’s cases outside that community right now. We’re not picking them up, because we’re not looking there. This has spread more broadly in the community. I wouldn’t be surprised there’s thousands of cases right now."

I got my my first dose of vaccine yesterday, felt good to check that off.

Those stats come from Africa r155, where the population is less healthy. There have been zero Monkeypox deaths in Europe and North America so far, so nothing to publicize.

FWIW.....

[quote]I think some of you have been waiting for this so you can wag your fingers and pass moral judgment.

I think that sounds like your insecurity about your choices. Because a remark like that wouldn't be made by anybody completely confident about themselves. If you trust it, if you believe in it, if you're 100% good with it, what others think wouldn't register and neither would the need to defend it or go at people who don't think like you do.

Oh there is no insecurity here. I am just aware of the handful, but noisy, contingent of posters on here who love nothing more to slut sham. They trash PrEP and they trash anyone who is just having fun and now they're using monkeypox in their latest cries of "burn the witch"

[quote]Because Monkeypox virus is closely related to the virus that causes smallpox, the smallpox vaccine can protect people from getting monkeypox. Past data from Africa suggests that the smallpox vaccine is at least 85% effective in preventing monkeypox. The effectiveness of JYNNEOSTM against monkeypox was concluded from a clinical study on the immunogenicity of JYNNEOS and efficacy data from animal studies.

But it isn't really as simple as just having fun, is it, when it leaves painful lesions in your ass and urethra?

To be honest, focus group of one, I don't care how many people somebody else sleeps with but I do tire of the entitlement and the carelessness that goes with it... that somehow thinking critically about - gasp - your sex life is a bad thing in principle because I'm sex positive and you're sex negative and somehow that makes me immune from consequence. Obviously, it does not. So maybe you're right. Maybe it has nothing to do with insecurity, but rather irritation that the other side of the idiotic argument is advanced by idiots. Fortunately, the facts confirm one side and not the other.

Monkey Pocsch

R169 is the biggest prude who ever pruded, standing in her doorway with her curlers and rolling pin upset about all those gays having sex while no one wants to get anywhere close to her.

Some gay men are dumb. Some gay men will ignore whatever they have to ignore to get laid. Some gay men think they have a right to have sex whenever they want to with whomever they want to. Consequences be damned.

I live near a gay tourist destination. Men were warned before they arrived and after they arrived.

At the time, vaccinations were not widely known and available.

Despite warnings and the public information available, sex parties were rampant.

And it hasn't gone well for the participants.

I don't think it has as much to do with sex-positive or sex-negative as argued here; it has to do with common sense and being responsible adults.

Yes, but here at least, often sex positive is used as a justification and sex negative as rationalization.

[quote]And it hasn't gone well for the participants

This sounds like an exaggeration. Monkeypox cases are still pretty rare and it isn't airborne, you aren't going to get super spreader events like Covid.

If everyone just had my “sex life” (nonexistent), this would disappear overnight.

R174

It may sound like an exaggeration, but it is not, according to friends in the local medical community.

And the fact that it isn't airborne is meaningless in this case, and has nothing to do with large groups of men having sex.

[quote]Monkeypox spreads in different ways. The virus can spread from person-to-person through:

[quote] - direct contact with the infectious rash, scabs, or body fluids

[quote] - respiratory secretions during prolonged, face-to-face contact, or during intimate physical contact, such as kissing, cuddling, or sex

[quote]It may sound like an exaggeration, but it is not, according to friends in the local medical community.

That's the problem in a lot of these threads, all of you with "friends" in the medical community. Which probably means they're orderlies or the people who check you in at the reception desk. A little discomfort for a few days is not death.

He's an Infectious Disease Doctor if that makes you feel any better.

Anyone can make up a story on the internet. What huge outbreak was this? Monkeypox spreads slowly relatively to other things because you have to be symptomatic to spread it, by the time people are most dangerous they have lesions.

It's certainly worrying, why I got vaccinated this weekend. But again it's not HIV, it's not Covid. Both of those were more dangerous in how they spread.

Monkey pox endemic in parts of Africa for decades has been spreading globally since early May through networks of men who have sex with men probably sparked by transmission at one or more raves in Europe the disease which mostly transmits through intimate skin to skin contact has resulted in fatalities in Africa, but no one has yet died of the disease in the United States-New York Times July 18 2022

R177

The New York Times 7/18/2022

While monkey pox can sometimes result in mild symptoms it is turning out to be unexpectedly severe for a substantial number of patients infected in this outbreak according to doctors, public health officials and patients in New York City the epicenter of the nation's cases.

Times Union 7/17/2002

In five days monkeypox cases double in New York. Confirmed case counts are still low but numbers went from 238 Monday to 2 to 490 Friday; more cases are also being found upstate

Such a shame.

NYT grim update.

Vacations and vaccinations

front and center on fire island where the laid-back vibe is now tinged with a new health concern. Suffolk county working with Northwell is running pop-up clinics through the weekend in cherry Grove and the Pines. Appointments booked up instantly. Experts encourage those at high-risk, gay men with multiple sex partners or a known exposure be alert for the painful rash like illness preceded by malaise.

CBS NY

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R177:

"A little discomfort for a few days"

Actual monkeypox patient interviewed in the NYT:

“It was just the worst pain I’ve experienced in my life.”

Delaying second doses might be a wise strategy, R185:

[quote] Breitbart is opening with a Monkeypox in NYC article today. 6000 comments so far. Read them if you want to know what’s coming for us.

I'm confused. Russian DL trolls have been posting that the right only hates trans.

You mean the trolls are lying????????????????????????

You’d swear this was as infectious as Covid. Stop fucking for a few weeks! Good LORD!!!

The hospitalizations have been due mainly to the horrible pain of these lesions.

[quote] You’d swear this was as infectious as Covid. Stop fucking for a few weeks! Good LORD!!!

And what will miraculously happen in a few weeks? Plentiful vaccines?? yeah, sure.

R191 it would stop spreading and die out. No need for vaccines.

Telling people to not have sex is not an effective public health strategy. It's as useless as trying to solve obesity by telling people to stop eating so much.

Only thin people will tell fatties not to eat too much

Only fugs will tell hotties to abstain from sex

Hoping to get mine on Wednesday. The LA clinics are finally starting to make it more accessible.

R194 hotties usually don't need to go to sex parties where fugs on drugs have multiple sex partners in the dark.

[quote]painful rash-like illness preceded by malaise

Most everyone on here already has the malaise, so that won't stand out as unusual.

Why would you risk it right now? As usual a few whores are giving us a bad name again. You aren’t being asked to stop fucking for life. Just be careful right now and close your legs. It’s not analogous to telling fat people not to eat. That’s a lifetime commitment, this is a small ask for a few weeks. SELFISH HORNY ASSHOLES.

R198 I don’t think it’s as simple as that. Gay men are modifying their behaviour now, lots of them. But some don’t know an awful lot about the risk, the information hasn’t gotten to the correct groups. And the info is not going to get to everyone it needs to get to. A friend of mine got it from a hookup in April - it was his first time having sex in 8 months. It’s kinda redundant to be going around calling people whores, it just shows off your ignorance about the variety of cases and how it’s being transmitted. If anyone gives gays a bad name it’s losers like you with no ability to understand complex issues.

R199 kindly piss off. Who are these groups with no access to any news or word of mouth? Anyone who hasn’t read or heard about it by now must be a vegetable.

I got vaccinated yesterday with hundreds of other New Yorkers. Good to see so many people taking this seriously.

If you were inoculated with the smallpox vaccine, which we all were if of age before 1960, the CDC says it's 85% effective against monkeypox. Time to be fucking your eldergays!

Will there be Monkeypox Chasers, I wonder?

R200 piss off yourself, you know you were wrong. You just want to get a kick out of calling strangers whores from an anonymous account on the internet, with a minimal grasp or understanding of the factors that influence public health disease outbreaks. Loser behaviour.

DL guys might not have heard about it that don’t have a network of friends. People with language difficulties, people with learning disabilities, antisocial people, people that don’t read the news etc etc etc. the news has effectively spread through the mainstream community by word of mouth and gay media (with very little in the mainstream media) so people that don’t subscribe to that are less likely to have the information they need to protect themselves.

More than hundreds r203. At the Bushwick site I went to they said they were vaccinating almost 1400 people that day alone.

Gay men are definitely trying to get vaccinated, the limiting factor is the supply of vaccine.

No, because I am not a WHORE

Two constants in Gay culture over the decades. Careless sluts living for pleasures of the flesh. And nasty unfuckable Priss-pots Who call the sex pigs whores who are "ruining everything for everyone". Count yourselves lucky if you are in neither camp.

R205 So happy people are taking this seriously; how odd that this is such a departure from the COVID vaccine situation. I guess the key is to make something unavailable -- as opposed to mandating it. We're doomed. Just to clarify, though... I was referencing something a tad more sinister -- the phenomenon (or so we're told) of gay guys eager to seroconvert to HIV+ status. Google "bug chasers" if you dare. There are entire documentaries about it.

Gay men were quick to get vaccinated against covid as well in my experience r208. Gay men are not anti-science conspiracy freaks over all. I mean how many urban gay men are on PrEP right now.

You need to get a second shot 4 weeks after the first and then wait two weeks to achieve complete immunization

And what is the Biden administration doing about this? Unlike COVID a vaccine already exists. Shouldn't they be ramping up production? And what about Pete Booty Check? Is he too busy dressing the props up?

R160, thanks for the tip. It’s helpful to see that they indeed believe what I expected their beliefs to be.

[quote] Are you glad when fat people get heart attacks?

Only if they sweat a lot and make gaspy noises!

R209. No argument there! I was speaking more generically about the US response to a vaccine. Gay men definitely lead the pack in terms of responsible response. The second part was about a fetishy subset of bug chasers, which was only governed by my curiosity.

You can get monkeypox from just one encounter. Being a slut has nothing to do with it

It's called odds, Rose.

Monkeypox doesn't need to be sexually transmitted is the more important point. Just because a lot of people happen to have gotten it through sex so far, it is dumb to forget this is not a STD.

[quote]I mean how many urban gay men are on PrEP right now.

An estimated 227,000-228,000 Americans had initiated PrEp as of April 2022. (That doesn't mean they're all still on it).

R214 DOOMLA there are already poxing parties. Keep up, and BE AFRAID!!!!!!!!

R211, it’s not a U.S. vaccine, Biden can’t simply order a foreign company to increase production. In fact, I believe the company that the makes the vaccine had been shut down until due to COVID. I expect that the possibility of the company licensing the vaccine to other manufacturers is being explored.

R219 Eww! Wut? I rest my slimy case!

America owns 17 million doses of vaccine that are currently sitting in Denmark r220.

[quote]I got vaccinated yesterday with hundreds of other New Yorkers.

Were you one of those who took an Uber to Harlem to get the vaccines available there?

R220 Jill stop making excuses for that old coot. He gave $55 billion to the Ukraine, and he sold more than 5 million barrels of oil from the SPR to European and Asian nations! Why doesn't he do something for us you entitled cunt!

Monkeeeeeee pox! Oh monkey pox! I see you, I feel you, you’ve got me scratching my ass all night loooooooooong!!! 🎵 🎶 🎵 🎶

Sex is such a low form of pleasure. It’s like the same as watching wrestling, NASCAR, or monster truck rallies. It’s such a mundane brainless form of pleasure. There’s more sophisticated forms of pleasure such as an art musuem or reading a novel.

I practice celibacy and rarely exchange any fluids or have skin to skin contact. I can sit this one out no problem.

R219, just because someone advertises that doesn't mean anyone is going

Well, At least it will be easier to spot the sluts.

(^.^) 😂😆😃😄😁😂😀🤣

[quote]Gay men were quick to get vaccinated against covid

The gay men in my circles who were "quick to get vaccinated against covid" tend to be psychotically and emotionally stunted "A gays" who would do anything within their power not to modify their behavior, even temporarily. Of course, they had been fucking and spreading covid since day one, but were itching for the opportunity to claim on their Scruff profess that they had been vaxxed, to bag ever more dick. It's the only thing that motivates them is finding a way to continue fucking regardless of the risks, because sex with randos = validation.

Lol….loon ^

Add it to your reparations request

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Those who get their monkeypox vaccines early will be able to continue slutting—so I want to get my monkey pox vaccine ASAP

R234, I’ve seen the NYC health commissioner in the flesh—he’s a tall, hunky slab of meat.

Sexy man

California man infected with COVID-19 and monkeypox: ‘Incredibly bad luck’

A California man contracted COVID-19 and monkeypox at the same time – a double-dose of misery that left him flattened for weeks.

Mitcho Thompson, of Sebastopol, told NBC Bay Area he initially tested positive for the coronavirus in late June. He felt decimated by the virus, but then started noticing small red lesions throughout his back, legs, arms and neck.

“The doctor was very certain that I have monkeypox and that I had both,” Thompson told the station in an exclusive report. “Because that was the question. Could I get them at the same time? And he said, ‘Yes, yes, yes.’”

Thompson said the twin viruses left him feeling as if he had a severe case of influenza. He also had a fever, labored breathing, chills, body aches and skin lesions.

“Really sick,” Thompson recalled. “And the worst of it was honestly where I just could barely get out of bed, and you could barely like get a drink of water.”

An infectious disease specialist at Stanford University confirmed it’s possible for someone to become infected with both viruses simultaneously.

“It’s certainly not impossible for that to occur,” Dr. Dean Winslow told the station. “It’s just incredibly bad luck. They are very different viruses.”

More than 2,400 cases of monkeypox have been reported nationwide as part of an international outbreak that began two months ago. The virus spreads primarily through skin-to-skin contact, but it can also be transmitted through linens used by an infected person.

Some 778 people had been infected in New York City as of Thursday, city officials said.

“Cases in NYC are increasing, and there are likely many more cases that have not been diagnosed,” NYC Health’s website reads. “Anyone can get and spread monkeypox. The current cases are primarily spreading among social networks of gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men.”

The illness has been relatively mild for many men and has not led to any fatalities in the United States.

Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told the Associated Press “we still have the opportunity” to contain monkeypox as vaccine supplies will soon increase.

While roughly 2,000 doses were available when the outbreak was first identified in the US in May, Walensky said the government had distributed more than 191,000 doses this week – with 160,000 ready to ship and as many as 780,000 doses to become available as soon as next week.

Thompson, meanwhile, told NBC Bay Area he’s finally better after his dual infection of “monkey COVID.”

“And the worst of it was honestly where I just could barely get out of bed"

I'm surprised he thinks that's a bad thing.

Some monkeypox hilarity:

Benjamin Ryan: I would once again like to apologize for inadvertently causing the entire global #monkeypox outbreak by typing too fast and leaving out a crucial consonant.

Benjamin Ryan:

This is misinformation about #monkeypox. The outbreak is occurring almost entirely among men who have sex with me. Public health experts agree that sexual contact is the principle driver of transmission and have asserted that risk to kids remains *very low*.

Sure, gay men are driving the epidemic now...but just wait

I read that 2 kids in the USA have the monkeypox! which means it's gonna explode now! imagine all the kids in school got infected by them etc

1. [bold]Stop going to places with lots of sexual activity: [/bold]Girls, we hate to say it, but it might be time to hang up the group sex and saunas until we all get shots one and two of the vaccine. This is temporary and out of a love for group sex and those who enjoy it. We’ve all seen folks in our community in unbelievable pain, and none of us wants to be in pain or for more folks in our community to suffer. By Fall, we hope to have enough Jynneos vaccines for all who want it. How about instead of a slutty summer, we hold off for a monkeypox-free cider donut anal autumn?

2. [bold]Use sex “pods”[/bold]: Similar to how people established pods to socialize with one another since the COVID-19 pandemic began, creating a pod for sex can be useful. Pod members should monitor for symptoms for a few days (the average time between exposure and symptom onset) after last potential exposure before engaging in sex within pods, and sexual activity should be limited to those within the group. These can be the same members you dance with at parties that have a lot of skin-to-skin contact. This approach is most useful if all pod members are open with their communication.

3. [bold]Open and honest communication with potential sex partners[/bold]: Pod or no pod, it is important to be open about sexual behaviors and potential monkeypox exposure. Before meeting up with a partner, discuss if you or they have had any other recent sex partners or participated in prolonged skin-to-skin contact with others. Discuss your health and whether you have any sores or other side effects. These conversations can help everyone more accurately figure out their level of comfort while considering potential transmission risks.

4 [bold]. Condom use [/bold]: The hallmark rash or pox can be present on the genitals and in the perianal area (including internal lesions), and current research and reports from community members have noted that the rash predominately starts in these regions. While condom use would not fully protect against monkeypox, it could help reduce the risk of skin-to-skin contact with lesions in these areas. Condom use would also help reduce the risk of transmission if monkeypox is spread via semen and vaginal fluids, which researchers are currently investigating.

5.[bold] More clothing [/bold]: A T-shirt at a circuit party? Long sleeves at the Eagle? Maybe embrace that leather or latex fetish! Think Kim K’s Balenciaga lewks—and who could argue with that? Remember that monkeypox is mostly spread by skin-to-skin contact, so anything you do to reduce the amount of skin you have to contact can make riskier spaces like a bar or circuit party—and even sex!—much more manageable.

6. [bold] Take care of yourself and others[/bold]: If you do test positive for monkeypox, or if you have a flu-like symptoms or a new rash, please stay home, get tested and try to get TPOXX—a safe and likely effective antiviral treatment for monkeypox—if you can. You should also share your close contacts with your city’s health department if you feel comfortable. In some states, the privacy of contact tracing is protected by law and firewalled from any city, state or federal law enforcement, including ICE, thanks to activism around COVID-19 contact tracing. If you don’t want to share your sex partners and other close contacts with city officials, you can always contact them directly and let advise them to get vaccinated. Jynneos vaccination after exposure is thought to protect against monkeypox or reduce the severeness of illness, which is amazing!

We can protect ourselves by sharing accurate information and practicing safe sex. LGBTQ+ communities did it with HIV and COVID-19—and we can do it with monkeypox.

epidemiological metrics from enhanced surveillance questionnaires in confirmed monkeypox cases in England

My vaccination appointment is next Wednesday

After taking 3 loads on Monday night, all from different guys, I realized that I should be vaccinated against monkeypox if I wanted the fun to continue with no consequences.

I’m in still in touch with 2 of the load givers, and I think that one of them has the making of a good friend.

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OK Pete please be careful! Think of the props

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I don't have random sex, I wish I was hot enough to do so though! I'll let the ones who need it get it first.

Hotness is not a requirement for random sex, R250.

[quote]I don't have random sex, I wish I was hot enough to do so though! I'll let the ones who need it get it first.

Get some self-esteem while you wait.

R251 I'd prefer not to have sex with obese men over 65. R252 , is there a pill for that?

My friend received his monkeypox diagnosis two day ago:

[quoted] "Started as Exhaustion, fever, aches, my tendons were tender and felt weak, it was invisible 🫥 inside my anus like a fissure but longer and sharper and excruciating in intensity "

I’m going to butt fuck only my boyfriend until I get both shots of the monkeypox vaccine. My first shot it this week, so while I’m sad to pass up loads from hot anonymous strangers outdoors during the month of August, I feel it’s the responsible thing to do for us.

Luckily, we will both be fully vaccinated to participate in sex parties in San Francisco during Folsom.

I hope there are a lot of parody entries here but I am not sure.

Do you think it's safe to get a haircut right now?

Monkeypox could spread well beyond communities of gay and bisexual men, WHO says

The World Health Organization on Monday cautioned against complacency in the rapidly escalating monkeypox outbreak, saying there is no guarantee that the virus will continue to spread within specific communities.

The U.N. health agency said that while cases have so far been concentrated primarily within gay and bisexual communities, there is little evidence to suggest that the disease will remain confined to those groups.

Rather, their early detection could be a harbinger of a wider outbreak.

“At the moment, cases continue to be reported among men who have sex with men for the most part, but we should not expect that to remain as such,” Dr. Catherine Smallwood, senior emergency officer at the WHO, told CNBC’s “Street Signs Europe.”

It is not uncommon for a virus outbreak to start in one particular group or setting before spreading more widely in the general population, Smallwood said, noting that health authorities could take cues from the early findings.

“This really might be the canary in the mine that’s alerting to us a new disease threat that could spread to other groups,” she continued. A global health emergency

The WHO activated its highest alert level for the escalating outbreak Saturday, declaring the virus a public health emergency of international concern.

The rare designation means the WHO now views the outbreak as a significant enough threat to global health that a coordinated international response is needed to prevent the virus from spreading further and potentially escalating into a pandemic.

“We have an outbreak that has spread around the world rapidly, through new modes of transmission, about which we understand too little. For all of these reasons, I have decided that the global monkeypox outbreak represents a public health emergency of international concern,” WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said.

More than 16,000 cases of monkeypox have been reported across more than 70 countries so far this year, and the number of confirmed infections rose 77% from late June through early July, according to WHO data. Europe accounts for more than 80% of confirmed cases in 2022.

Men who have sex with men are currently deemed at highest risk of infection, with around 99% of cases reported outside of Africa this year among men and 98% among men who have sex with men. However, the WHO and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have emphasized that anyone can catch monkeypox regardless of sexual orientation.

Symptoms of the disease — which is typically endemic to Africa — are largely mild, with most patients recovering within two to four weeks. Five deaths from the virus have so far been reported in Africa this year, while no deaths have been reported outside of Africa.

Still, Smallwood warned that more severe cases could become apparent should the virus spread to more immunologically vulnerable groups. Young children, pregnant women and the immunocompromised are considered particularly vulnerable to the virus.

“If it does spread to other groups — particularly to people who are vulnerable to severe monkeypox disease, which we know there are certain groups that are more prone to severe illness — then we might see increased public health impact,” she said.

More vaccine data needed

There are a number of existing vaccines and antivirals that have proven effective at treating and preventing the disease caused by monkeypox. Indeed, countries have already stepped up vaccination programs for those deemed most at risk, with the U.S. and the U.K. among others issuing hundreds of thousands of doses.

However, such vaccines are designed primarily for treating smallpox, and Smallwood said more information is needed to determine their efficacy as the monkeypox virus continues to spread.

“We don’t have full information on how effective and how efficacious these vaccines are against monkeypox,” she said.

Smallwood said that the WHO’s call to declare a global health emergency would now draw more attention to the outbreak and, as a consequence, research on vaccines and other modes of treatment.

“We need to be able to be confident that the countermeasures that are available and potentially accessible are scaled up, and that we have the knowledge that we need to be really confident in their use,” she added.

The WHO is not recommending mass vaccination at this time, and the U.S. is currently reserving the vaccines in its stockpile for people who have confirmed or presumed monkeypox exposures.

there was a kid younger than 10yr got the monkey pox after his family traveled to Turkey for a vacation. They are from the netherlands if my memory serves. Nobody knows how he got it. They ruled out sexual abuse. Nobody in his family got it either. he had pox all over his body but no fever. the family claimed they used their own towels while at the beach

any side effect of the vaccine?

what is the procedure when you show up for the shot?

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Yes, R256 it is safe to get a haircut as long as the person giving you the haircut has been vaccinated and boosted otherwise, they should be wearing disposable Nitrile gloves and wearing a condom when you give them a blow job in lieu of a tip

[quote] Think Kim K’s Balenciaga lewks

Was this written by a fourteen-year-old girl?

Why do young gay men think writing this way is charming or appealing to anyone?

I just got my first monkey pox vaccination in Portland OR. I barely felt the needle in my right upper arm. I had minor heat sensation in my upper right face that went away in 5 minutes.

The county health department was extremely efficient. I was out of there in under 30 minutes , which included a 10 minute wait time after injection to make sure there were no side effects.

Like NYC and DC, Portland is giving out the the first dose with no confirmed appointment for the second dose. This is change from the email that I received a week ago.

I saw several guys that I had fucked, including a guy who currently advertises on Rent Men.

[quote]I saw several guys that I had fucked, including a guy who currently advertises on Rent Men.

LOL. So us.

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[Quote] I saw several guys that I had fucked, including a guy who currently advertises on Rent Men.

Translation = I’m a sloppy bottom

R266, and now it’s creeping into the straight world.

The ultimate recommendation will be for everyone to get the shot

problem/reaction/solution

Of course gays will continue to get the blame. There will be tons of anti-gays jokes about monkeypox rushing through high schools.

the only good thing about this problem is that I bought stock in the vaccine maker and have doubled my money! However, many stocks in my portfolio is still in the red.

Knowing how slutty flight attendants are, am I at risk when I fly to Europe next week??

Unless you usually sexually assault the flight attendants, R272, I think you should be fine. But if you were planning on that maybe change your usual behaviour.

[quote]Experts said immunity from one dose of Jynneos can be protective and long-lasting.

[quote]In a study from 2008, monkeys who were vaccinated with a single dose of Modified Vaccinia Ankara (MVA)—the virus used in Jynneos—were protected against monkeypox as soon as four days after the first shot.

3 interminable days, and then I resume my position as the local cumdump

San Francisco declares state of emergency

All the whores are going to end up looking like the Elephant Man! Say so long to your beauty! No amount of working out will make up for the disgusting oozing sores you will have forever.

You’re doing a great job gramps ^

I live in a city with no plan to Disperse the vaccine. Planning a trip to NYC in August. Should I get the vax while there even tho I have no idea how I’ll get the second dose? Wonder if my local PCP can get the second dose it if I’ve already had my first?

For you r278

Thanks R27!

[quote]Jill stop making excuses for that old coot.

Yep. The most bitter, victimized, ready to strike out with all their nasty venom and ageism are Millennial and Gen Z gays. Gays who've been denied nothing in life, were handed an AIDS-free adulthood equipped with Grindr, PrEP and Uber Eats, and by dint of having actually voted once or twice think the entire world snaps to attention upon their command!

Oh, hon. That's actually not how things work even if you've been led to believe so by your privilege and entitlement!

One of the giant TVs fell on him and he's said to be either in a coma, or barely talking. It's really hard to watch. It almost looks like he was split in two.

Can I get Monkeypox from touching the lottery ticket machine? The jackpots are big and I need to buy tickets tomorrow!

R282??? inference to whom?

R278, yes, get the first shot whenever and wherever you can. The second can wait

Is it ok to still entertain discrete brothers? I dont see a lot of them getting it...

NYC released a bunch of vaccine appointments last night and I grabbed one. Keep checking.

CDC’s count of total U.S. monkeypox cases

Five weeks ago: 201

Four weeks: 460

Three weeks: 767

Two weeks: 1,814

Last week: 2,891

Today: 5,189

Governor Kathy Hochul has declared a ‘disaster emergency’ in the State of New York in response to the monkeypox outbreak.

“After reviewing the latest data on the monkeypox outbreak in New York State, I am declaring a State Disaster Emergency to strengthen our aggressive ongoing efforts to confront this outbreak,” Governor Hochul said.

“More than one in four monkeypox cases in this country are in New York State, and we need to utilize every tool in our arsenal as we respond,” said Hochul.

This is not like Aids, where no one knew what was happening, what the illness was, or why it was happening, for a decade before it was discovered. Of course it was unfair to tell an entire demographic to "just stop having sex", because it was too late for one, and for two, telling people to just stop having sex for an undetermined amount of time (i.e., forever) is wrong.

This isn't even like telling women to not have sex so they don't need abortions. Sex should not be shamed, nor is it reasonable to expect people to never have sex. However, if women could only get pregnant, during a month long window only, yeah, if say to them, chill out with the sex. That's why this monkeypox outbreak is a set of completely different circumstances than the examples being thrown around in here.

It was well known it was coming this way, with it well known what activities were raising the risk. They already knew gay men were at much higher risk because prolonged, intimate exposure, like having sex, increases the chance of catching it, plus having that info from another country. To argue it's sex shaming to say "hey maybe wait this out for a month" is as goofy as saying it was shaming to say "hey, let's chill on public outings for at least a month" when covid first came about.

Sorry, I'm with the elder gays on this one. If all it was going to take was to avoid having anonymous sex for a month, to let this pass us by, without now having to deal with the clamouring for a limited vaccine, yeah that was kind of selfish. Now the cats out of the bag, with the spread going on beyond being exposed through more intimate contact and where there's a risk of mutation because it was a free for all. Especially after we were made well aware that it reached the US.

Just wanted to add, there's times where we need to stop making all things being linked to prejudices. There's countless health conditions that are known to effect certain demographics. Could be a multitude of reasons why (economic class, lack of healthcare, genetics, etc), but that shouldn't stop us from issuing warnings to those at higher risk. Not when it can save them from unnecessary suffering. At this point, yeah it's probably too late for lectures, but it shouldn't have been blown off when we just dealt with a global pandemic, where people had to curb their behavior until we found a solution.

This mindset is making me sweat over what would happen if anything worse comes along. With climate change and globalization, we're bound to see new illnesses spread. We're totally fucked if everyone's going to have shitty attitudes.

It is grim that men with information and at least normal IQs can stop fucking for a month or two.

R292, just to clarify, did you drop the t there on the can?

I'm a gay guy in my 50s and haven't been sexually active for quite some time. I'm happy to wait until it becomes easier to get the Monkeypox vaccine because I understand my particular demographic isn't most at risk.

I also am not getting all butthurt because the federal government needs a little time to have available vaccines for an affliction frankly none of us had ever heard of, especially since I am able to generally keep myself totally safe until the supply ramps up. Having lived through every minute of the AIDS crisis and die-off, it really isn't that big an inconvenience.

I'll change my mind when Monkeypox-afflicted guys are getting viatical settlements on their life insurance, ok?

It doesn’t ever work to shame people. Certainly give advice to reduce sex partners—and most gays know that well already.

We need easier access to vaccines and to the anti-virals. Within a few months it will be gone.

Shaming adds nothing to the equation.

Yo R292. Proofread !!

Never thought "t" should be soooo enlightening.

Actually, shaming people is sometimes the ONLY way to get someone's attention AND to entice change.

Is saying dial it back a bit shaming?

What exactly is being said that's shaming?

Is saying use a condom shaming?

R293, everyone should drop the t.

Even suggesting condom use is the most evil and potent shaming ever invented!

Now please introduce yourself to this room filled with strangers and INCLUDE YOUR PRONOUNS!

[Quote] Actually, shaming people is sometimes the ONLY way to get someone's attention AND to entice change

Please let us know where and when shame has ever worked? It didn’t work with AIDS, obesity, teenage pregnancy, and on and on and on

[quote] Is saying use a condom shaming?

No but it doesn’t stop transmission so it’s not helpful?

Link please. Here's mine:

Keep in mind that condoms can reduce risk of monkeypox, but not eliminate risk entirely, since monkeypox rashes/lesions can show up all over the body. Condoms are a great way to prevent other STIs, and also HIV.

R304 that is REALLY DUMB ADVICE. Not helpful.

And your qualifications are?

Having sex with a condom will not protect you from a man with monkey pox in his mouth and on his body. DUH

You're right. The San Francisco AIDS Foundation is just sex negative. Have fun! Be sure to let us know!

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Timing is everything

and now San Francisco R309

Vaccine Effectiveness Because Monkeypox virus is closely related to the virus that causes smallpox, the smallpox vaccine can protect people from getting monkeypox. Past data from Africa suggests that the smallpox vaccine is at least 85% effective in preventing monkeypox. The effectiveness of JYNNEOSTM against monkeypox was concluded from a clinical study on the immunogenicity of JYNNEOS and efficacy data from animal studies.

Smallpox and monkeypox vaccines are effective at protecting people against monkeypox when given before exposure to monkeypox. Experts also believe that vaccination after a monkeypox exposure may help prevent the disease or make it less severe.

[quote]Past data from Africa suggests that the smallpox vaccine is at least 85% effective in preventing monkeypox.

Past data from Africa also suggests that monkeypox doesn't cause penile swelling and rectal pain. But here we are.

Supposition from NY supposes there was a lot less barebacking going on in Africa.

Monkeypox cases around the globe🌍:

Spain, UK, Germany, USA and France comprise of 72%; while 10 countries comprise of 86.1% of all cases.

This guy got it bad. NSFW.

Thank god we have this treatment medicine. Yikes.

Houston man was exposed to monkeypox at a music festival, got vaccinated after he learned of exposure, but still developed the disease.

"The pain was extreme," he said, noting that painkilling medications and oatmeal baths did little to ease the discomfort. "I cried all the time."

“This is not a disease for gay people only. I know it is affecting gay people more, but everyone can get it.”

I only sleep with straight gentlemen callers

Dr. Dimie Ogoina. an infectious disease specialist at the Niger Delta University in Nigeria, first discovered that the monkeypox vaccine had changed to become more transmissible between humans in 2017. Over the past few years, he has tried to warn health officials and scientists repeatedly that monkeypox had changed and was possibly spreading through sexual contact. At one international meeting, he tried to bring up the possibility of sexual transmission. Somebody told him to be quiet.

"Yes, someone told me that I should not say it. That I should not say sexual transmission is possible," Ogoina recalls with exasperation in his voice. "He told me, 'We should not worry about sexual transmission.' "

From the Houston story:

[quote]Instead, he said, he "stayed at home praying." Medication did little to lesson the pain.

If the medication didn't work, how'd that prayer work out for ya, Cowboy?

From what I read post-exposure prophylaxis may prevent disease if the shot is taken within four days of exposure. Sounds like he missed that given the delay in getting a doctor who could help him. Taken after that the shot can lessen severity. Either it didn't work, or if what he got with prayer is anything to go by, his experience without Jesus would have been the Devil's handiwork.

Still, dial it down, condom up and try to avoid this thing.

Got it today.

Got confirmed or figure you got exposed?

No, got the vaccine, shot #1.

[quote]discovered that the monkeypox vaccine had changed to become more transmissible between humans

You ok, doll?

^ It will solve the shortage problem, if so.

[quote]You ok, doll?

Obviously not, maybe I have monkeypox. Dr. Ogoina discovered that the monkeypox virus had become more transmissible.

Google says that they stopped vaccinating people for smallpox around 1972. (The smallpox vaccine may provide some protection against monkeypox.)

[quote] Routine vaccination of the American public against smallpox stopped in 1972 after the disease was eradicated in the United States.

[quote] The smallpox vaccine is not available to the general public at this time.

It will be interesting to see if this article gets the shit kicked out of it or changes messaging.

"Despite the weakness of the evidence, the 85% efficacy number is everywhere -- sometimes with qualifications, sometimes not. Even Yale University and Harvard University have published health alerts that quote the 85% figure without noting its uncertainty.

Meanwhile, monkeypox prevention messages aimed at gay and bisexual men continue to vary. Vaccinations are heavily touted along with other strategies as officials worry about stigmatizing gay men.

Last week, the head of the World Health Organization suggested "reducing your number of sexual partners, reconsidering considering sex with new partners, and exchanging contact details with any new partners to enable follow up if needed."

The CDC offered advice about having sex if someone may be infected: stay 6 feet apart during mutual masturbation and avoid kissing. And the magazine POZ suggests using condoms, wearing more clothes at circuit parties and bars, and creating sex "pods" similar to the groups of friends and relatives who only socialized with each other during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Suggestions about condoms may be especially challenging for men who have sex with men to accept. Many gay men prefer to reduce their risk of HIV transmission by taking preventive drugs like emtricitabine/tenofovir (Descovy, Truvada) or, if they are HIV-positive, by lowering their viral loads to undetectable levels via medication.

"The prevention messaging should be that vaccinations will be an essential part of getting this outbreak under control, and we need everyone to get vaccinated as soon as possible," said Donnelly, the data scientist and LGBT health advocate. "But even if you're vaccinated, you're still at risk, and unprotected anal sex may be the highest risk."

"Even after vaccination," he added, "you may want to consider reducing the number of your sex partners and using condoms or pursuing other safer sex approaches."

All the whining about stigma an POZ writes:

The AIDS magazine POZ recommends that readers "hold off on a slutty summer" and wait for the fall, when "we hope to have enough Jynneos vaccines for all who want it."

Slutty summer? The stigma's coming from inside the house....

Isaac Bogoch

@BogochIsaac

The rate of monkeypox infection in Montreal may be slowing down as a result of a rapid & coordinated response involving vaccines for pre- & post-exposure prophylaxis.

The outbreak is not over & we should treat this as a global rather than local issue, but still good to see

Joseph Cherabie MD, MSc🇱🇧🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈 (He/they) @JncherabieMD · 21h Stunning results from vaccination campaign in Montreal, they quickly realized PEP wouldn’t be sufficient and PrEP is necessary, over 15k doses given and 39 cases amongst vaccinated individuals, with flattening of rates #AID2022 #Monkeypox

Helen Branswell, respected reporter at StatNews, a respected publication on issues relating to health and medicine.

Unexpected info on Spain's 2 fatal #MPX cases: Both men, aged 31 & 44. No epi link between the cases. Neither was immunocompromised. Neither had underlying chronic diseases. From a presentation by Isabel Jado, director of the National Center for Virology to a @WHO meeting.

Gay men have had to be more frank with each other, at the risk of seeming preachy or alienating. On July 19, AIDS activist Mark S. King wrote an essay, titled, “Monkeypox is a gay thing. We must say it.”

“Will there be stigma and judgments and homophobia? Of course. And we’ll have to deal with that,” King wrote. “But that doesn’t mean we bury crucial facts in vague, evasive messaging.”

Sex positivity defines modern gay life, sure, but so does awareness, prevention and treatment of disease. Nicholas Diamond helped to fashion a tip sheet last month, titled, “Six Ways We Can Have Safer Sex in the Time of Monkeypox.”

“Girls, we hate to say it, but it might be time to hang up the group sex and saunas until we all get shots one and two of the vaccine,” Diamond wrote with two of his collaborators in the rapid survey of monkeypox in New York, where the mayor on Monday declared a state of emergency due to the outbreak. “This is temporary and out of a love for group sex and those who enjoy it.”

“Something a lot of people don’t want to say out loud is: Gay men have more sexual partners, on average,” says Steven W. Thrasher, whose new book “The Viral Underclass: The Human Toll When Inequality and Disease Collide” traces the interplay between systemic injustice and vulnerability to disease. “But there’s a responsibility that goes hand in hand with the sexual dimension of our lives. It’s not just a free-for-all orgy.”

R294

Our childhood smallpox job tells monkeypox "Go away! We don't want you!"

Prolonged shedding of monkeypox (viable virus) in the semen of an individual for at least 19 days after symptom onset.

Smart move to wear condoms for several weeks after a monkeypox infection to prevent potential onward transmission.

I'm so glad I'm frigid.

Decades old vaccination for smallpox provides uncertain protection from Monkeypox infection.

[quote] Am I protected against monkeypox if I’ve already received a smallpox vaccination?

[quote] According to the CDC, a previous smallpox vaccination does indeed provide a certain level of protection. However, in some cases, the protection does wane.

[quote] “During the 2003 monkeypox outbreak and during the current monkeypox outbreak, several people who were infected with monkeypox had previously been vaccinated against smallpox decades prior,” the CDC said on its website.

[quote] The CDC is urging everyone to take steps to protect themselves from infection, regardless of their vaccination status.

If your doctor didn't know you were gay before, he will after you ask about the vaccine.

No vaccine is perfect. How many is "several people"?

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WaPo:

Biden officials planning to declare a *public health emergency* for monkeypox as soon as today, two officials tell The Post.

More than 6,600 cases of virus have been confirmed as officials race to prevent virus from becoming entrenched in US

Entrenched is a good word.

Shame is underrated given how rare its become.

NYC correction captain who works on Rikers Island contracts monkeypox

At least two uniformed Department of Correction staffers, including a captain who works directly with detainees, have contracted monkeypox, sources familiar with the matter told The Post Friday.

One of the staffers, who the DOC said does not work in a jail on the island, tested positive on Thursday and has been isolating in accordance with medical guidelines, the agency said.

It’s not immediately clear when the captain contracted the virus but at the time they did, they were working inside one of the DOC’s jails, sources said.

“We take the health and safety of people who work and live in our facilities seriously, and have been working with our partners at Correctional Health Services to mitigate any potential spread of monkeypox should cases arise. This partnership and hard work has kept our facilities safe,” a DOC spokesperson said in an email.

As of Thursday, no detainees have contracted monkeypox, according to Correctional Health Services, but jailhouse sources said it’s only a matter of time before the virus spreads among inmates considering the close contact many of them have.

“This is definitely going to take over Rikers Island like COVID,” one source said.

When detainees enter DOC custody, they undergo a monkeypox screening during the intake process and if they are suspected of having the virus, they are placed in medical quarantine, tested and observed, Correctional Health Services said. Testing and vaccines for the virus are also available on-site, they said. see also pustules in child's hand Monkeypox myths vs. facts amid public health emergency: expert answers

The DOC said they are following all recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and state and local health departments and are cleaning and disinfecting areas where positive workers were present.

On Thursday, President Biden declared a nationwide public health emergency over the growing monkeypox outbreak, which allows the federal government to increase its response to the virus without the usual regulatory red tape.

The epicenter of the outbreak is in the Big Apple, which has registered more than 1,700 cases as of Friday, accounting for about a quarter of the cases reported nationwide, data show.

On Saturday, Mayor Eric Adams declared monkeypox a public health emergency in the five boroughs after brushing off concerns over the bug’s spread in the Big Apple in May.

Monkeypox is known to cause fever, aches and bumps or sores on the body.

It primarily spreads through drawn-out skin-to-skin contact and gay and bisexual men are the primary demographic to be affected so far.

This TikToker has been doing a day-by-day update on her monkeypox experience

Since monkeypox was declared a US public health emergency on Aug. 4, people have mostly seen infected men speaking out about their experiences.

But as the number of cases increase, women are now speaking about their symptoms, too. One of them is a New York TikToker named Lou, under the handle @kindylouu, who currently has more than 340,000 followers.

She made a video that garnered 1 million views in which she announced that she had monkeypox on July 27.

Lou said she was unaware how she caught the virus but noticed the rash while she was at the beach.

Two days later, on July 29, she made a more detailed video explaining her exact symptoms and showed lesions on both her mouth and fingers.

She expressed pain to the point where she said she could only drink “protein drinks” and that it was difficult to talk.

“I can’t eat. I can’t brush my teeth. I can barely talk,” she said.

Lou explained that she was ready to start giving her stuff away because she wasn’t sure if she would make it.

“My uncle died from something like this,” she said.

Her next update on Aug. 1 explained that she had been prescribed lidocaine to numb her mouth in addition to another medicine to help the rash, and she was still only able to drink her food.

Lou said she did not contract monkeypox through sex and has yet to get her monkeypox test results back after taking the test weeks ago.

The next day she experienced a new symptom — abdominal pains — and said her stomach was “on fire.”

Her latest update hasn’t revealed much improvement in her condition as all of her symptoms are still present.

Fifth child tests positive for monkeypox in US

Moderna is thinking of getting into the MPX vaccine business.

Awful healthcare from most US doctors

[quote] Of those for whom vaccination status was available, 14% had gotten a vaccine for smallpox, including 3% who had gotten one dose of Jynneos during this outbreak. At least one person with monkeypox had symptoms more than three weeks after their first dose of the Jynneos vaccine.

Definitely waiting to butt fuck mutiple strangers until 3 weeks since my vaccination.

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I can't remember if I read about vaccine side effects here or on Twitter (but a search of Twitter just brings up a bunch of crazy conspiracy theories).

Anyone had any, and how long did they last? Got my first dose Saturday and was fine until late yesterday. Headache, fatigue, then suddenly aches and chills. It's better today, but I'm still a little weak. More delayed than the Covid vaccine, but not as terrible. Has this been others' experience? If so how long until you felt 100%?

I felt fine, but my arm is sore after 10 days since the injection. The pain has gotten better with time.

All of my friends had a similar experience.

No imI'str8

I got my first dose on 8/4. Second dose will be 9/1. I'm hoping for a prehensile tail as a side effect but no such luck. My arm is a little sore but not as sore as when I got my covid shots.

I had had one. Didn't have a single side effect... except for love!

any long term side effects?

Not for me. (358.) But I only got it late June. I suppose I could yet develop a neurological condition or start speaking in tongues.

Happily neither scar.

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I don't see why they are worried about college campuses. It's not like college gays on summer break haven't been fucking up a storm.

FDA is approved new monkeypox vaccine technique that RATIONS the shot by only giving people 20% of the normal dose - as regulators insist it is still effective

r362 its transmitted by being in close proximity for long periods and touching clothing or items belonging to someone with it. Dorm rooms are perfect areas for transmission especially if people are bringing in sex partners

Why are people having sex with other peoples' sheets and clothes?

It is not transmitted by simple close proximity - there are conditions that facilitate infection.

CDC:

The monkeypox virus is spreading mostly through close, intimate contact with someone who has monkeypox.

You can take steps to prevent getting monkeypox and lower your risk during sex.

Monkeypox can spread to anyone through close, personal, often skin-to-skin contact, including:

Direct contact with monkeypox rash, scabs, or body fluids from a person with monkeypox.

Touching objects, fabrics (clothing, bedding, or towels), and surfaces that have been used by someone with monkeypox.

Contact with respiratory secretions.

This direct contact can happen during intimate contact, including:

Oral, anal, and vaginal sex or touching the genitals (penis, testicles, labia, and vagina) or anus (butthole) of a person with monkeypox.

Hugging, massage, and kissing.

Prolonged face-to-face contact.

Touching fabrics and objects during sex that were used by a person with monkeypox and that have not been disinfected, such as bedding, towels, fetish gear, and sex toys.

- If this outbreak was not widely transmitted through sexual contact, how is it is not a) more widely spread and b) not spread more diversely in the population? And spare the undertesting argument. We've all seen the pictures. This one is hard to miss if you've got it.

what I want to know is, if someone is infected, they don't have pox on their hands. you shake their hands, do you still get it?

it's only when there is exposed pox/skin contact, right?

What about when they have monkey pox virus but the pox didn't appear yet and you hugged them, shook hands?

R367, it’s not as transmissible as Covid. A person with Monkeypox is infectious even without lesions, but everyone seems to agree that there has to be sustained contact for transmission.

It's contact with the rash or the sores or scabs. It is reasonable to assume "wet" virus is most infectious.

I can't wait to see how Insta-gays will spin the narrative if they get the pox.

No one over 5O with earlier pox exposure?

Didn't most Dataloungers get the smallpox vaccine? It was administered until the early 1970's. This is a disease of young WHORES.

I didn't get the vaccine yet because I'm not a common whore.

Retarded impotent jealous enraged incel ^

Only whores are currently spreading this pox. Later it will get uglier.

The whores don't care if they spread disease and create another global pandemic. How very dare you expect them to keep it in their pants for a few weeks you sex negative incel!

I will as soon as I can.

I think I heard today that the dosages are being cut into 5 parts so that 5 people can get vaccinated with the dosage 1 person got in the past. This sounds shady and unproven.

R378, yes, it was approved by the authorities. How the fuck can they do this? vax for 1 person is being split into 5? They must hate the gays.

To be fair R379, a lot of gays seem to hate themselves and each other.

Going home, sitting down and shutting the fuck up would've done wonders for Ezra Miller, crispy Anne Heche, and these diseased whores. But it wasn’t meant to be.

You really think straight conservatives aren’t doing “immoral” things? Bitch please!

R72...."LGBTQ2S+"? Where has the IA gone? Now, I could Google what the "2" means but... Nevermind. How can you properly address an issue if you refuse to name the people it concerns? It's like "birthing people" all over. No, monkey pocks doesn't affect the LGBTQ2S+ "community". There is no community in the sense of the word because there are unbridgeable conflicts of interest. Monkeypox doesn't affect the average purple haired girl. Can and will straight peoole get it too? Of course. But how is it homophobic to observe that the spread, at the moment, is largely among very promiscuous gay men? Can't we be a sensible about it? Just like with wearing a mask or not - it's not a decision that affects only you. It's not okay to let someone else suffer the cost of your hedonism. This has nothing to do with purity clubs or the 90s. There is a vaccine but it will better quench the outbreak the fewer cases there are. We do not want this shit to become endemic so the ones who can't keep their plonker in their pants until they got a vaccine can say "See, it affects everyone!"

Muscle aches, slight fever, joint pain, and all-over neuralgia one day after the first shot. Hurts like hell.

[quote]You really think straight conservatives aren’t doing “immoral” things? Bitch please!

Yes. And so what, R382? What bearing does that have on us? What immunity, what protection, what exemption does the immorality of straight conservatives have on us or this situation?

So far as I can remember, but he did it too! didn't even work when we were six.

So educate me.

... and I'd like to "Oh dear" myself, prophylactically.

2S means two spirit(ed). I think it has something to do with gay Indians. Like in the old west, not Bollywood.

they said the split vax will be injected just under the skin and not into the muscle! you will need 2 doses.

they claimed-" research shows it's effective."

Jynneos said their internal research showed it works. If that's true I'm glad they are doing this, act quickly rather than waiting for slow bureaucratic approval. Getting as many sexually active gay men vaxxed should be the number one priority.

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^ Daily Mail spammer troll = FF

I don't want 1/5 of a dose. I want the full dose. A concierge medicine service will have full doses, I bet.

What's the latest update from the pox report?

Bavarian Nordic, manufacturer of the Jynneos monkeypox vaccine, has come out in opposition of America's plan to split the shots into fifths in an effort make short supplies go further. The company says the data supporting the move is limited, though they also have a financial incentive to want to avoid less shots being distributed.

At 10,392 confirmed cases, the United States now makes up around one-third of the 31,000 cases tied to the current global outbreak of the virus.

More than one-fifth of U.S. cases are in New York, where 2,132 cases have been confirmed. The Big Apple in particular has emerged as the nation's biggest monkeypox hotspot - just as it did early in the COVID-19 pandemic.

California (1,892 monkeypox cases confirmed) and Florida (1,018) are the only other states that have logged more than 1,000 cases each.

The virus has been detected in 49 states and the District of Columbia, with Wyoming the lone state to still be at zero.

Alarmist troll ^

So, How about that Polio?

right on, R398.

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I wish I could get confirmation that the smallpox vaccine - that was given to all kids before 1972- is the same thing. Therefore there is no need for anyone over 50 to worry about it. The absence of clear information about this is so damn frustrating. Even if you try, you can’t get answers.

ALL US men over 50 are already vaccinated - true or false?

No idea r401

3. Does a smallpox vaccine protect against monkeypox?

According to the CDC, a previous smallpox vaccination does provide some protection against monkeypox, though that protection wanes over time. Experts advise that anyone who had the smallpox vaccine more than three years ago and is at increased risk for monkeypox get the monkeypox vaccine.

honey, if you are 50+, u should not be worried about std

^When I got my shot in Broward county a few weeks ago, the paper they gave me said those who have had a smallpox vaccination may need only one shot of the Jynneos vaccine. I asked the person who gave me the shot about that and she said they were telling anyone who had had the smallpox vaccine more than three years ago that they should plan to get the 2nd Jynneos shot at some point. For now, however, I feel pretty safe. I had the smallpox vaccine as a child, I've had one Jynneos shot, and I'm not likely to climb into a sling.

Your BMI is immediately apparent r402

FDA authorized giving just 1/5 a dose...

Such bullshit. Divide this by 5.

Jynneos has its say about splitting doses into 5.

Splitting doses strategy based on a single study.

Another brave and noble skank.

First juvenile monkeypox case identified in New York

Anyone know how to get one in NYC? My doctor has no idea - suggested NyC dOH. Crazy that I live in the gayest area of NyC, well educated and well informed, aggressively take care of my health and have good doctors, spend time finding resources - yet can not get a monkeypox vaccine. Good luck to small town gays. This is ridiculous.

New York has been releasing appointments in blocks r413 all you have to do is sign up for one online when they are released.

You can get notifications so you will be ready when the next batch is released. Be ready to sign up once the next block is released and you will have your vaccine.

If you're in New York, rent a car and drive up or get a flight to Montreal and get it there. They will vaccinate anybody. And you get a whole dose, not a fifth of one with fingers crossed.

r413, I would just keep monitoring that site r414 posted, or call the number to see if an appointment is available over the phone. I tried making one when they released a batch, and the website kept crashing for an hour and a half until I gave up. I would click on an appointment, only to be told it was no longer available, or that there was a connection error, and I'd have to start over again. The next day I checked the site at random, there were several appointments available for next day, and I got one easily.

Thanks R414. Good link - found an open appt, go DL!

longstanding weaknesses= American contrarianism

Am I the only once wishing it was a suppository?

I'm really looking to avoid ANY chance of Monkeypox so I found an appointment to get the first shot.

This is the last thing I want to worry about!

I'd really appreciate it if they would give us the full dose subcutaneously, as the maker instructs - rather than 1/5 the dose between the dermal layers, which is how they're deploying it now. I'm lucky that I at least got the first one in the normal way, in the normal volume.

1/5 of the dose. They're giving us 1/5 of the dose now.

If anyone knows of a concierge medical practice in NY or CA that's giving full doses, please share the names here. I'm willing to pay for a full dose.

TBH, I don't feel like travelling to my local gayborhood to get a vaccine...do they think all gays live in the same neighborhood?

I got the 2nd vaccination today, 1/5 dose intradermally.

My PCP told me that he and other local providers were still following the county health board that specified the first shot only, no second shots.

So I crossed the river, into another state and got my second vaccination today. There were only 5 other people in the waiting room, which was shocking because it was a madhouse when I received my first vaccination. The nurse assumed it was my first shot, and I didn’t contradict her.

In two weeks, I’ll be back to fucking hot strangers in parks and alleyways. This summer was ruined and I have suffered enough.

I got my first shot yesterday and was told I would be notified when to come get the 2nd dose. Am I to assume this won't be for quite some time?

I went to a place in Long Island City that seemed staffed and set up for many more people than were there. Everyone was very nice and helpful.