In light of the disaster today.. What country are you planning to move to?

New Zealand

I can't move. But if I could? Spain. My dream.

canada!

R3 Same. If they take away gay rights, I'm out!

The problem is that NO ONE wants Americans, and can you blame them? We are doomed and we are fucked. It is that simple.

I am staying and fighting. all these were won once and will be again. not today though, today I feel defeated.

I can go anywhere in the EU 🥰

It doesn't matter that no one wants Amrricans. You do the research and work the system to find a way in. There are many ways to do so.

Portugal will be my gateway into the EU.

I'm staying and resisting. With all my guns and ammo!

You'll have to pry his penis out of my cold, dead hands!

Ireland

Not another country, but I am definitely leaving the South. NY or CA here I come!

I shall go to the Klingon home world- if you haven't noticed Klingon men are HOT.

R12 Strategically speaking, your vote matters more in the South if we're to have any hope of pushing back on this Red minority takeover of America.

[quote]NY or CA here I come!

Welcome, fellow gay! I’ll be at the Port Authority to welcome you.

I’m going to Canada. I think those canooks will welcome me, they’re all nice.

I'm British and willing to marry an American for certain... favours. 😁

Nowhere, you're all being overdramatic queens.

Good luck getting in to Canada.

Netherlands.

Spain or Portugal even if for only six months of the year.

Avoid Alberta and most of Ontario, R16.

Hooray R6, You rock. I'm in too.

R4 "if" - stick around for a bit longer, there's no "if."

We are all going to make the mythical move to Canada.

None of you to Wales, if you don't mind. We like to have peace and quiet.

R19: My company has 2 offices in Canada (and many other countries). Transfer - easy. I started planning the transfer if Dump stole the election. I will proceed if there is a national gay rights ban.

Lol the EU, where you’ll have to sell your ass to afford heating in the winter due to imminent gas rationing? Where there’s no air conditioning anywhere except some airports and hospitals? The same EU that is about to let Ukraine and Moldova accede and officially kick off WWIII with Russia? Good luck with that…

Not Holland, that’s for sure!

What country would have me? I can tell you where I won't go, even as a tourist: Russia, China, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, etc.

I wouldn't want to go where people will be instantly suspicious of me. or where capturing and jailing me would serve a foreign govt. I will avoid places that hate Catholics, places that hate bisexual women. These requirements narrows down my choices quite a bit.

Mexico or Scotland, I guess. For one, I'd need to learn some Spanish. That might be nice. Mexico is warm, which I'm used to. Plus, they're Christian mostly. Scotland will be cold and wet, but they speak English usually, even if their first language is Gaelic. Many Mexicans must know English, though. I wonder how much more affordable it'll be to live in Mexico than in Britain? There's a lot of Atheism in Britain. People laugh at people with faith. I"d have to brace for it. Ireland perhaps. It's cetrtainly a pretty place, Ireland. What kind of job could I get? Why pick a foreigner to hire when you could hire a native citizen of your own country? I don't have any friends in any of these places, no one to lean on if I need to.

I think I'l stay in the good ole US of A. For most of our history abortions were hard to get. Abortions on demand is strange and new to human history, not just here. Life should be hard to dispose of. Abortion should be a lsat resort, not a form of birth control. We'll have to rely on the old midwives system. They usually took care of abortions along with births, y'know. For almost all of human history, it's midwives we've turned to. Embryos aren't clumps of garbage inside us, like fresh shit in a rectum. No embryo, no fetus. No fetus, no baby. Babies aren't disposable here are they? It should be harder to end an inconvenient pregnancy. Many women have more than one abortion and that's not right. IF it isn't necessary for the mother, than once should be the limit. Mistakes should be learned from! Call me crazy, go on!

Use birth control like rubbers and the pill more responsibly, and an abortion or two or three won't be in your sights. Spermicide plus rubber--very effective to prevent pregnancy and sickness. Men should take more responsibility for what becomes of the seed they sow in girls and women. It's not fair how we have to be in charge of all of it. That's what I think. Just ignore me.

Why no Muslim countries listed?

Holy fuck, r30, get a blog.

[quote]Good luck getting in to Canada.

I have family up there, will that help? Plus I’ll sent shirtless pics to Trudeau.

United States

I moved to the Netherlands the day after the 2004 election. Smartest decision I ever made.

Going to get. a German passport via Article 116. Don't want to live there of course but I can live anywhere in the EU.

We’ll probably have you in the UK if you are white. We don’t seem to mind white migration, dark skin.. fuck off.

We are pretty atheist here to be fair.

Let's see: OP = either

1) woman in Oklahoma carrying and unwanted baby; or

2)

what jobs are in high demand in the EU?

Illegal migrant, r39.

You’re in luck!

R6 I’m with you. As much as I can’t stand it here (and I’m from TX so I get it doubly bad), I refuse to let them win.

r18, obvious and redundant.

I'm thinking Panama. They have a good program for retirees, good health care, and non-stop flights all over the world.

Ond R26, hoffiwn i fyw yng Nghymru...

R28 & R40 = Brexiteer dumbfuck

I think r43 had a stroke.

Do you smell burnt toast, dear?

Please, don't come here. American tourists are bad enough.

R46. We are coming for you. And we may eat your pets.

R45, it's Welsh and none of your concern

Canada won’t be a viable option. Millions would potentially be fleeing for the border and the fact is Canada doesn’t have the money or the man power to protect millions of refugees. And frankly, I don’t want to be anywhere near America when things really go to shit.

When things start to looks really bad (Trump or DeSantis in office, gays and women legislated against, mass shootings of gays picking up,) sell what assets you have and go to Europe. Portugal and Spain are cheap and liberal. For the poorer among us claim refugee status, those with money buy into the country.

I’m done fighting R6. It’s not my job. I’ve done it. Straight people can fix these problems.

I understand r50 and I am not being judgemental or sarcastic when I say, I am still going to fight when they come for gays and lesbians.

If you want to get to Canada, Australia, UK, etc get a nursing degree. There is a shortage of nurses in W Europe/Canada/Australia. You will be considered a high value immigrant.

The Philippines has been providing nurses to the US for decades. They get a green card and in 5 years can become citizens.

If your job is on this list, you have a very good chance of coming here. If you happen to fall in love with a Brit, there's a good chance you can become a citizen.

Portugal?

I'll still be here. I live in a blue state, thankfully. I'll fantasize about moving and living in beautiful parts of the world.

Somewhere they speak English.

I’m too old to learn another language.

R53, thanks for that list.

I already did it, 20 years ago, after the "9/11 New York City World Trade Center Incident" .

My choice was Mexico.

Advice:

1. Choose inland Central Mexico, for the climate. Puerto Vallarta is all fine and dandy until the heat and humidity turn it into a big drag.

2. Yes, you can collect Social Security, but don't have it deposited in a foreign bank. Maintain a USA address and bank and have it deposited there. Use ATM machines in Mexico for access to your funds.

3. Use the same address for a USA driver's license (as in #2, above).

4. You can live on very little. I am currently spending less on rent, for a house, than I spent on rent for a room in 1970. My advice would be to stay away from buying Mexican real estate. It is NOT a bargain.

5. Own a car, and a utility trailer, and move as much stuff as possible to Mexico, or otherwise you will be nickled and dimed to death, buying household stuff.

6. Do your shopping on Amazon (both USA and Mexico) for the things that are not available in a third world country.

I could go on and on, but just don't have the time.

R58, how would you maintain a USA address? PO box or like those in the UPS store where you have an address?

I am a lawyer in the USA. I want to leave but there are no jobs for me elsewhere.

Canada

Looking at that list of UK jobs is confusing: so they really pay veterinarians £12ish per hour?

Fortunately I got my Canadian Citizenship last year.

The suggestion of nurse training is a great one. NZ is desperate for nurses right now and we will take you in a heartbeat.

[quote]I think I'l stay in the good ole US of A

Yeah, anyone who uses a phrase like "the good ole US of A" should probably stay there.

How very American of us to ruin our own country and just think we can be welcomed to colonize other areas with open arms. Very on-point.

Holland isn’t a country R29.

Ok, The Netherlands?

There's a reason for that, r64

Yes, R68. That is what it is called.

I'm a convicted felon. I can't get a passport I can't. I can't even get a firearm either to protect myself here.

FML

I’ll move if same sex marriage is overturned and sodomy laws are reinstated. Guaranteed. Baja California.

My lesbian neighbors anticipated all this and have moved to a coastal Mexican town and have never been happier. Social security right on time.

[quote]How very American of us to ruin our own country and just think we can be welcomed to colonize other areas with open arms. Very on-point.

You mean like how Californians have done to other states?

Currently in Ohio. Seriously thinking of selling my house and getting out of this Rightwing Hellhole.

R74, you better sell soon, prices are going down.

When Trump was elected my sister got her kids Australian passports (their dad’s an Aussie). She’s gonna leave me behind and I’m gonna be stuck here. 😒

We already own a house in Canada and emigration is largely a matter of money. If you have it you can go where you please. If you don't have it I'm afraid you're stuck here duke-ing it out with the Lame Boys and Klansman currently riding high.

I live in California so it will take a while before they can turn it into a right wing hellhole like those godforsaken red states. In the meantime, I'll spend lot of time up North in Canada and put some more work into the property there.

Try the Ukraine our President has given them $55Billion

I feel pretty chill in Massachusetts. We’re not getting rid of abortion or same sex marriage.

Our gun laws might change but I don’t know how bad that would effect us because there’s no gun culture and those who practice it go to New Hampshire. No one is interested in living like the Wild West or Rambo up here.

Ireland or Spain, I have an EU passport.

You'll be missed R80

[quote] She’s gonna leave me behind and I’m gonna be stuck here.

R76 Not to worry. Sis will come running back in five years, having had a gutful of the racism, ennui and boredom.

r30 You are worried about anti-Catholic bigotry while the insane Catholic religious fanatics on the Supreme Court are turning the United States into a theocracy. You can't possibly be that stupid, can you?

My life was going down the shitter in 2014. Extremely fortunate, I bought my ticket out. Little did I know the country would go down the shitter as well. People asked me for a while if I was considering moving back. Haven't been asked that in a while ...

Thank you R51.

I just moved here in an effort to protect myself and my husband, both climate-wise and politically, R79. It’s very liberal where I am. Probably one of the most liberal spots in the country. But the state is small. If the shit really hits the fan, can it protect itself? Can New England band together? I really hope so.

The main drawback for Canada is, of course, the cold. But except for that, sure! Australia and/or New Zealand might also be a good choice but it will take a lot of time and paper work to get in there. But if you're of superior character - and wanting to get out of the U.S. would mean you are - they will admit you.

A country that protects the bodily autonomy of everyone... oh wait.

Colorado

I’ve been seriously considering Canada. My job is part of a worldwide conglomerate, so I could get a job through the company. I guess if you have a job lined up it can offset the financial responsibility. Is that correct?

Is there a list of skilled jobs like the UK one above?

[quote] I don’t know how bad that would effect us

Oh, dear!

New Zealand also has an affordable housing crunch. But it is a first world country that put the breaks on covid and fox news. There was immigration restriction imposed that can be bypassed for the very wealthy.

[quote]The main drawback for Canada is, of course, the cold.

Dammit. I’d forgotten about that. I hate snow.

Back to the damn drawing board.

[quote] that put the breaks on covid and fox news.

With a hammer?

Aren’t the Maritime provinces in Canada more temperate than say Quebec or Manitoba?

Canada is having problems too. Australia just got rid of their Donald Trump. But they are having the same white wing problems we endure and an affordable housing crunch.

Lol they're not going to be thrilled with so many 'New Canadians.'

Now that I think about it, I might not fit in in Canada after all.

I’m not particularly polite.

A rule of thumb for a good country to emigrate to would be any country that wouldn't admit any of the conservative members on the U.S. Supreme Court. (Happily, there are many of those countries)

[quote] Embryos aren't clumps of garbage inside us, like fresh shit in a rectum. No embryo, no fetus. No fetus, no baby. Babies aren't disposable here are they? It should be harder to end an inconvenient pregnancy. Many women have more than one abortion and that's not right. IF it isn't necessary for the mother, than once should be the limit. Mistakes should be learned from! Call me crazy, go on!

You ARE crazy indeed. Let's hope you don't live in a state where abortion are impossible now and you won't get raped and fall pregnant from it.

I think the UNHRC is considering designating those fleeing the US as refugees to facilitate resettlement in an other country.

[quote] I moved to the Netherlands the day after the 2004 election.

R35 did you have a notion things to get this bad? What were the indications besides bush simply getting reelected, bad as that was?

Italy on the Almafi Coast somewhere. Like the food and they appreciate what I do for a living which is design related. Not "decorating". I mean actual design as in Product Design.

Portugal or Spain. I'm from California and need the sun!

The US is a shit-hole for the next 20+ years with the recent SCOTUS ruling. Fuck you, Clarence.

Spain is VERY HOT in the summer. just so draining....I had to go there one summer to sell a relative's vacation home. I didn't have the energy to go anywhere...just hung out at the pool to cool off.

[quote] just hung out at the pool to cool off

R105 With some cold drinks and hot Spanish guys in skimpy (or no) swimwear, this sounds great to me! 😜🤷🏻‍♂️