DeSantis Beating Trump in New Hampshire Poll of GOP Voters

You know who is going to shit his diaper.

The next generation steps forward. How is that permitted?

I guess the silver lining is that it will signal other Republicans that it's OK to ignore or defy Trump. Is DeSantis less prone to such egregious lying or insulting opponents like Trump? That alone would be an improvement.

It's amazing how his political fortunes have skyrocketed after winning by a hair. Was it his Covid defiance alone that did it? Does he ever pause to wonder if the highest death rate in the nation (even with his underreporting and fudged stats) was worth it?

WTF has happened to America? These people believe negligent homicide on a mass scale is a good thing.

[quote]Does he ever pause to wonder if the highest death rate in the nation

I'm betting that's true irrespective of COVID.

Unfortunately, I feel like Trump is the lesser of two evils. DeSantis is dangerous. Buckle up gals.

Why is DeSantis worse than Dump? Pls explain.

DeSantis isn't a moron and actually believes in the crap he pushes. Trump has zero actually beliefs in anything he says or does. DeSantis is also disciplined so he won't say stupid crap to turn off suburban republicans, also probably wouldn't attack other republicans in the house/senate. Basically a smarter Trump, which makes him a lot more dangerous. Just think of the crap Trump was able to pull while being a complete manchild idiot. Fear for the future if a smart Trump-like Republican ever wins.

[quote]also probably wouldn't attack other republicans in the house/senate.

Well as long as he doesn't raise a mob to attack the house/senate, I'm thinking it's an improvement.

He'd just be smarter about staging a coup than Trump, not that he wouldn't do it.

What makes you think DeSantis is a wannabe dictator?

Dump has proven he is.

There's a very good article on the rise of DeSantis and his shenanigans since 2018 in the latest New Yorker. Very eye opening.

[quote]DeSantis isn't a moron and actually believes in the crap he pushes.

Does he really or is it just expedient?

DeSantis is pure evil and nasty bully. Trump is no better but DeSantis is on another level.

Ron DeSatanist is the big fat Devil. :-/

Give REASONS bitches. Repeating it is not enough.

I think DeSatan does believe in all of the MAGA shit. After all, he dressed his toddler in a Trump onesie. And believing in the MAGA nonsense means that you aren't really all that smart. I'm tired of people saying how smart this asshole is because he went to Yale and Harvard.

He’s going to be our first WOPresident.

R10, are you brain dead? Have you not see the bills he’s pushing? What he’s doing to Disney? What he did during the pandemic? Go kill yourself and do the world a favor. Jackass.

[quote] DeSantis isn't a moron and actually believes in the crap he pushes.

The crap he pushes is mostly stuff HIS DONORS financially benefit from.

Take a Klonopin, R18. I know about Disney, which apparently he lacks the power to get done.

Do you think he was wrong on COVID? Do you think he's wrong on trans? What bills is he pushing, specifically, that so offend you?

I would love it if De Satan won the nomination and Trump then ran as an independent out of sheer spite. He would take enough votes that Biden or whoever replaced him would be likely to win.

[quote]Take a Klonopin, [R18]. I know about Disney, which apparently he lacks the power to get done.

That doesn’t matter. The very fact that he’s pushing to do that is fascism. Wake the fuck up.

This is the dude who wants gay shit banned.

[quote]This is the dude who wants gay shit banned.

Well so does DL's Maiden Aunt Brigade.

Good thing I'm not a homo for when De Santis bans the gay shit!

Trump has the Qanon crazies and toothless hillbilly vote, DeSantis really is getting all the other Republicans lining up behind him. They want rid of Trump and want to win. Trump's a loser. Once he wins the primaries DeSantis will pick up the hillbillies. He's Reagan redux to Biden's Carter.

He's not a fascist however.

The New Yorker profile paints DeSantis as brilliant, repellent and cold. He lacks warmth and has no time for social niceties, etiquette or empathy. I don't think he is Reagan redux for that reason. Although his relationships are transactional, like Trump's, he apparently doesn't share Trump's desperate need for approval or affection. I think he will win the nomination and unless his personality turns enough people off, he will win the presidency.

I meant he's Reagan Redux in that it's likely he'll become another hero in Republican eyes. Winning two terms, and producing a "revolution" in economic and social polices.

Republicans are moving on. Democrats are frozen in amber at November 8, 2016.

And you call republicans stupid?

That is why so many Trump loyalists all of a sudden turn on him, because they want the Deplorables to rally behind DeSantis. I hope Trump will sabotage the GOP's efforts for the midterms and the presidential election in 2024.

DeSantis is not worse than Trump. Only a Trump apologist would say that. DeSantis is closer to Mitch McConnell: he seems scary and freakish because you rarely see openly intelligent Republican politicians. He believes in awful policies, but they all do, they’re Republicans. Trump did not have policy goals. He didn’t care about government. He just wanted to destroy everything.

[quote]He's not a fascist however.

He is.

[quote]DeSantis is not worse than Trump.

He is.

[quote]I think he will win the nomination and unless his personality turns enough people off, he will win the presidency.

If that were t happen the MAGAT crowd wouldn't vote for him as they would consider him to be a traitor. They would vote for Trump if he ran as an independent, write him in if he didn't, or just not vote for DeSantis. They are full on ride or die for Trump.

[quote]He lacks warmth and has no time for social niceties, etiquette or empathy. I don't think he is Reagan redux for that reason. Although his relationships are transactional, like Trump's, he apparently doesn't share Trump's desperate need for approval or affection.

He's already being groomed to smooth his rough edges and to fake compassion like an Oscar winning actor.

[quote]I think he will win the nomination and unless his personality turns enough people off, he will win the presidency.

Correct

I’m not sure who’s more vile.

No one's personality was more of a turn off than Trump's. And he won anyway. 2024 won't be a personality contest.

Can anyone see any scenario whatsoever in which Trump will accept defeat gracefully and hand over his MAGA movement to DeSantis?

He’ll create hell. His only real loyalty is to his own ego. Wait until he gives DeSantis the full name-calling, crude-insult treatment. His acolytes will eat it up.

At this stage, Trump’s ego might be the Democrat’s greatest asset.

Does Ronnie do anal?

[quote] Does Ronnie do anal?

Yes, if it will give him some bonus points in culture wars.

DeSantis reminds me of Canada’s Ford brothers. Populist, and not overly bright. Thinks common sense is all you need, and his is the commonest.

Thing is, the person who leads the polls years and months out before the actual primaries almost always never wins. DeSantis could be the new Jeb.

One poll in New Hampshire means nothing - we need to see a slew of polls to see there is a trend

A recent poll has Charlene Crist beating Desantis by 1% in the gubernatorial race.

Ron is not a charmer, I’m telling ya. He only does so well because there are a ton of old white fuckers in Florida, and he killed off a serious chunk of them during Covid.

Repigs sure like them fat and ugly

[quote]At this stage, Trump’s ego might be the Democrat’s greatest asset.

Exactly.

I’m a Floridian and think Ron Desantis presents the best chance for the GOP to win the White House.

Ron is smart, cold and calculating, despite the reports he does posses some charisma but not the typical politician type that’s slimy and overly nice.

I truly fear that he could win, he is ruthless and digs in for the kill like a pit bull.

Trump is an idiot that coasts by on his perceived wealth, it’s his business man persona that people like because they think he is a smart self made millionaire. But Trump is stupid and easily swayed which makes him less dangerous than Ron who still has some youthful looks to plaster on billboards and sell the old elephants a dream.

Meanwhile, the trials and tribulations of the man who almost beat DeSantis four years ago continue. Fresh from his being found drugged out naked with a male escort, Andrew Gillum is now about to be indicted for fraud.

R47 Fatsantis hired a voodoo witch to put a curse on the closet case Gillom.

The only difference between him and Ted Cruz is that DeSantis is not a booger eater (that we know of.)

.,.,

The primaries in 2024 will be the hardest part for DeSantis, and then it will be smooth sailing for him in the general.

They'll run together. I already have my Trump/DeSantis 2024 flag!

Ron De Santis has anal warts!

[QUOTE] Ron is not a charmer, I’m telling ya. He only does so well because there are a ton of old white fuckers in Florida, and he killed off a serious chunk of them during Covid.

Yeah, it remains to be seen how he’ll look on a debate stage with 10 or more other candidates.

R47, on another thread someone opined DeSantis was behind it. It's a federal investigation by a Democratic Party run Justice Department.

Both parties are corrupt but the Democrats seem stupid as well.

He looks like he eats everything else, R49.

[QUOTE] It's a federal investigation by a Democratic Party run Justice Department.

A Democrat in the White House says nothing about the makeup of the Justice Department, R55. Law enforcement is filled with rightwing lunatics, especially the FBI. The Florida FBI is teeming with Trump/DeSantis supporters, just like the New York FBI was rampant with Giuliani supporters.

We want to have Ron's baby!!!

Which is worse to be honest? Trump hasn’t declared war on homosexuality like DeSantis has. I’m no fan of the orange one but DeSantis seems truly hell bent on his conservative agenda. Trump used the wean minded right wing conservatives and militia groups to his advantage but DeSantis seems to truly believe their musings. The whole lot of them can catch Covid and suffer with the “fake virus” they claim isn’t real. No hospitals or help for them, let them choke on their own lies as they pass away.

[quote] Which is worse to be honest?

They are both terrible, making the Dem nominee look a million times more qualified.

Trump will not slink off quietly.

Two scenarios:

1. Trump loses in a bitter contest, refuses to back DeSantis and his base sits the election out. Remember that many of his supporters never voted previously, or, if they did vote, actually voted for Democrats in the past. They like Trump, not the GOP

2. Trump's advisors somehow convince him not to run again and to hand the crown to DeSantis. But like all retired autocrats, Trump can't stand to see DerSantis get all the attention so undercuts him at every opportunity and his endorsement is lukewarm at best, which also leads Deplorables to sit this one out

It's also possible the DeSantis, who is politically savvy. tacks back to center once he's secured the GOP nomination. Whether he actually governs as a centrist is another story though....

I don’t think DeSantis can win a national election. The last thing he and his operations need is more attention. He’s like Trump without the supposed charisma.

If you don't think DeSantis can win a national election, then you haven't been paying attention to anything.

DeSantis' stunts make him very unpopular in other states. The presidential popular vote will keep remaining in the Dem candidates' favor. But then the GOP only focus on the electoral college to win.

[quote]DeSantis' stunts make him very unpopular in other states. The presidential popular vote will keep remaining in the Dem candidates' favor. But then the GOP only focus on the electoral college to win.

I don't think I've ever read a more out of touch post on here.

Satan himself would not be worst than Trump.

As Churchill put it "If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."

R48

No one is more pathetic than Gillum/Gollem. Talk about a ruined opportunity....

Ron's muscular physique will bring in female and gay voters. Plus, he has better hair.

"He's already being groomed to smooth his rough edges and to fake compassion like an Oscar winning actor."

Yeah, that won't work. You can't fake that shit unless you have some degree of facile charm, like George "I wanna have a beer with him" W Bush.

That said, his lack of personality won't hinder his chances one bit. People will see DeSantis as The Terminator. Cold, calculating, brutally efficient and 100% focused on his agenda. MAGA crazies will love that shit and neatly fall in line once his momentum really gets going.

And I feel horrible for Biden, who I truly think is a good man at heart who want's the best for this country. DeSantis will demolish him in the debates. He's whip smart on his feet and can flip any argument against him in his favor. I've been following his trajectory (in horror) for awhile--but seriously, read The New Yorker article to see what I'm talking about here. The man is awful. But sadly, talented.

The only spoiler I can see is if, like someone else mentioned, Trump decides to run as an independent and wreak chaos. Perhaps then we can squeak by. I'm not optimistic though.

"Ron's muscular physique will bring in female and gay voters. "

Hahahahaha. You do know he's totally fat now, right?

Ron will never live down the clip where he berates school children for wearing masks, ruining his PR stunt.

He's a loser who thinks CRT matters more than keeping children safe from mass shooters.

^ hate to break it to you but a lot of people do not see that as berating. They supported it.

Out of touch, out of touch, out of touch.

r72. Republicans supported it. There are way more Liberals in the US. We just have to vote more strategically and even with cheating and gerrymandering, the Republicans would not win then.

[quote]There are way more Liberals in the US.

Oh, my sides.

I bet he and Trump have a lot of mutual dirt on one another. I say let those fat fuckers fight.

There is no amount of dirt that can hurt these two buffoons in the eyes of the MAGA crowd.

[quote] DeSantis' stunts make him very unpopular in other states

Massachusetts, California, and Oregon

Block the “out of touch” troll and most of this thread just disappears.

I've probably posted 3 times on this thread. ^

Why Ron DeSantis Can Beat Trump in 2024

GOP has no fucking morals. This man has done nothing but mad fake bills and tried to get things banned.

[quote]Meanwhile, the trials and tribulations of the man who almost beat DeSantis four years ago continue. Fresh from his being found drugged out naked with a male escort, Andrew Gillum is now about to be indicted for fraud.

The Democrats need to stop promoting such shit candidates.

Desantis didn’t even beat Gillum in those debates. Gillum had all the sassy comebacks that the media ran with after.

The old fucks in Florida will crawl over glass to vote Republican, is the problem.

He wouldn't even wear a mask while his wife was on chemo. He'd rather have motherless toddlers than look like a lib. Fuck that fat bitch

How is he 43, but looks 56? Drugs? His eyes often look crazy

The huge problem is that voters who hate Trump will feel better voting for DeSantis. he's actually worse because he's smarter

The funny thing is Trump already had his time at bat and is history but democrats are still refighting the last two wars instead of the next one.

DeSantis beating Trump in new Florida 2024 primary poll.

R5 and I'll bet DeSantis has a nice big Italian fat one. That's one thing he's got over Trump

Trump needs to be the nominee over DeSantis. DeSatan could actually win.

[quote]DeSantis isn't a moron and actually believes in the crap he pushes.

He's certainly not a moron - Harvard and Yale, I believe.

But I don't think he "believes" anything. He knows what will work with the base and he may say he believes such and such -- he believes he wants power, adulation and money. Probably little else.

[quote]Trump needs to be the nominee over DeSantis. DeSatan could actually win.

Exactly. You shouldn’t be cheering this on. DeSantis has the votes of all the Never-Trumps and deflected Republicans.

He might actually be more thin skinned than Trump, or is maybe just more disciplined than Trump and has more follow-through at getting back at people who believes slighted him. Disney had some pretty luke warm criticism over the don't say gay legislation and he helped drive through legislation that punished them in a pretty quick fasion. He has no problem with overstepping his power with little pretext such as taking over the gerrymandering tasks from the legislature. I feel he would use his powers to go after and possibly imprison his enemies. Not that Trump is above that, but Desantis has an adult's attention span and would see his revenge through completion.

We selected the 2016 republican nominee and our Jan 6th committee is doing the same for the 2024 race.

Trump is toast ! And watch his minions go completely unhinged

R94 that is such bullshit. What, like Ted Cruz would’ve won the nomination if the DNC “elevated” him? Trump was going to get the crown regardless what Democrats did.

Where Hillary made the mistake was in underestimating him afterward.

There is no beating DeSantis. He's unstoppable. His resume is OTT: Yale undergrad. Harvard law. Navy Seal who served in Iraq. House Rep from 2013 to 2018. Florida Gov from 2018 - present.

His photogenic young family is the icing on the cake.

Plus he's hot!

[quote]He's certainly not a moron - Harvard and Yale, I believe.

Yep. There’s no stupid people there.

[QUOTE]His photogenic young family is the icing on the cake.

Those are the ugliest children I’ve ever seen in my life.

I won't vote for an eye-talian.

how old are you R100?

There was an article in one of the UK papers (The Independent?) in which someone close to DeSantis leaked that he's hoping that the Congressional Jan 6 hearings lead to Trump getting indicted.

R97 he doesn't have the baggage of January 6th, and his state recently posted a surplus of $50 billion. Florida doesn't have state income tax or inheritance tax and it has low sales tax and thanks to tourism it has a booming economy. On paper he beats Trump, Gavin Newsom and former Governor Pete Booty Check.

DeUnsanitary beating Dump is like shit beating vomit. No one wins.

Hot looking man. I hope he wins. It will be good for America and the world.

Hopefully he won't make embarrassing gaffes like Joe. The most recent being in Israel where he referred to the' honor of the Holocaust' I'm assuming he meant horror.

Troll Spin, Category 4: R107

[quote] ' honor of the Holocaust' I'm assuming he meant horror.

Or maybe Joe thought they landed in Nuremberg

The new wave of RW trolls here is really he bottom of the barrel: lazy and not very creative. If I was Peter Thiel, I'd ask for better deliverables for my money.

R108 just responding to the to the post @ R106.

and is it my fault that the old coot in the White House is an embarrassment? And after 45 years in politics, he still hasn't mastered the art of reading from a teleprompter.

R110 certainly not as creative as old Joe that's for sure!

[quote]Trump needs to be the nominee over DeSantis. DeSatan could actually win.

If Forrest Trump fails to win the nomination, he'll regard it as a betrayal. He'll badmouth DeSantis and the party and likely tell his supporters to not vote for him. Remember when he told the MAGATs in Georgia to not vote in the Senate runoff races? MAGATs will do whatever he says. He might even run as an independent, just as a big fuck you to the Republicans. He wouldn't have to take too many votes from DeSantis to allow Biden or his successor to slip past. And that might be the one thing for which the MAGATs could never forgive him.

I just want to see Trump shit a brick in that gold toilet of his.

DeSantis won't embarrass us overseas as Trump did.

Expect Cruz to run yet again....and lose yet again. And Pence will run, too.

[quote]Navy Seal who served in Iraq

WTF? This fat fuck roly poly was a Navy SEAL? I thought those were the elite of the elite athletic-wise.

R115 Desantis wasn't a fat fuck in his teens and twenties. Like a lot of people, he gained weight as he got older. he's still better looking than that greasy haired, thin lipped, pale count Dracula Newsom. And I'll bet DeSantis' is girthier than Gavin's.

Trump has too much baggage.

It would be hypocritical of people who relentlessly mocked Democrats for being dumb/arrogant enough to nominate Hillary in 2016 to then turn around and nominate Trump in 2024. He is the only person in the country who comes even close to being as despised as she is.

Thin lipped

Gavin's lips are barely visible R118 and they are pale pink

What is Trump’s nickname for DeSantis going to be?

My vote goes to Pillsbury Dough Boy.

When was that pic from? 40 years ago?

DeSantis is 43 years old R121

Trump is over.

Remember 2016 R123 but nonetheless I think you're right, and moreover I think that Trump will be even more over by 2024

I repeat myself from r87

Captain Ahab's psychopathic obsession for vengeance against the Great Orange Whale led to his death and the sinking of his ship.

And I only am escaped alone to tell thee

43?! No way is he millennial-adjacent. He missed the millennial cutoff by a year.

[quote]He wouldn't have to take too many votes from DeSantis to allow Biden or his successor to slip past. And that might be the one thing for which the MAGATs could never forgive him.

Poor R113. Biden or his lame successor, whoever that is, have zero chance against DeSantis. Trump's supporters are dumping him in droves, relieved to have a strong, smart, YOUNG viable candidate with big balls.

Trump was over for us when he bragged about the murder of the Iranian general , but he was really over for us when he closed the borders in 2020, promoted the lethal (covid) injectias, and otherwise promoted the covid $cam.

DeSantis has raised 100 million for his reelection campaign in Fl. That's far more than he even needs to win in a landslide. He's building his war chest for a 2024 presidential bid. Analysts predict he'll have over 200 million by then. The mooney is just pouring in.

We want to have his baby!

[quote]DeSantis is 43 years old

He looks 59.

[quote]Expect Cruz to run yet again....and lose yet again.

Cruz is desperate to be Hillary Clinton.

[quote] Like a lot of people, he gained weight as he got older.

Most people gain weight when they get older, but when you are as active and fit as he needed to be in the service, usually you stay somewhat physically active into your forties and do not gain that much weight by 43.

Oh, please -- he was a lawyer and officer "in the service." I'm sure he wasn't required to be either active or fit. He may have been, but I doubt it was required.

The two party system and electoral college are a farce. It should be run on people who have views that can easily be promoted for all people to accept. The country is like the 90s rap wars of Biggie Vs Tupac East /West. It’s just about winning and not about working together to create a livable , decent civilized country! .

We believe no electia results anymore.

For the past two years they are fraud in USA and France, to start with.

Syntax analysis result: R136 is a bot.

R5, equally evil, but DeSantis is merely smarter - which is not a high bar when compared to Trump.

Translation of R136: I don't believe in any election that isn't fixed so that the Fascist, far-right wins.

R133 'Adults in the United States are estimated to gain around 1.1 to 2.2 pounds per year from early to middle adulthood but overtime this modest gain in weight accumulates and may eventually lead to obesity.'

R131 I thought he was older than 43 but he doesn't look 59. BTW Rand Paul, Johnny Depp, Graham Norton, Bret Michaels, Jon Stewart, John Slattery Quentin Tarantino and Ralph Fiennes are all 59 years old, and DeSantis looks much younger and better than any of them

And the W says, "Do you miss me yet?"

“the” W?

[quote]DeSantis Beating Trump

Pics please.

A Fucking Battle Royale is a-brewing! 😄

A-brewing?

I want to watch trump start tearing DeSantis down

Desantis is a squatty, bitchy little pig with zero personality. I love how the Deplorables are migrating away from Trump to him, like some Plan B.

And as the country and Democrats are migrating from Biden what is their Plan B? R148

Just 14% feel the country is headed in the right direction. I have a feeling the country is going to start going to the right.

R142 he's never gone away on DL. Many posters here must have worn out letters D-U-M-P-A-G-T-B-O-R-I-S on their keyboards

Do Junior Mints and Kim Foyle snort lines off the Polaroids? R142

[Quote] Just 14% feel the country is headed in the right direction. I have a feeling the country is going to start going to the right.

A lot of the people feeling we’re heading in the wrong direction feel we’re moving too right

Really Rose? Any links that can be read without a colonoscope? R152

Flyoverstan rednecks don’t like taking their dictates from Rome

[quote] A lot of the people feeling we’re heading in the wrong direction feel we’re moving too right

Wrong.

Will Desantis throw Catholicism under the bus to poach Trump’s hold on the Evanjellies?

This is gonna piss trump off. They are going to internally fight. I’m so here for this distraction.

R155 Thanks Rose

CNBC Poll July 7-10

😯Biden's approval rating for handling the economy has fallen to 30% and his overall approval rating is 36% among all adults.

😥 Biden's ratings are lower than the worst scores ever for Donald Trump!

DeSantis doesn't have the kind of charisma that the Q-Anon and Trumpster types are attracted to. They're looking for sitcom crazy people willing to be outrageous because they're desperate for attention. DeSantis tries by doing things like getting into a fight with Disney, and that "stop the woke" bill, but he has no follow-through. He does something hateful and outrageous, then never mentions it again. He doesn't care if people love him or not. I just don't see him appealing to either the regular Republicans or the even more wackadoo far-right side.

R159 If Biden is the only other choice in 2024 DeSantis might become more appealing to those who want a President who does not seem confused, lost, unable to follow a train of thought and who needs to be shepherded around by his wife.

[quote] a President who does not seem confused, lost, unable to follow a train of thought and who needs to be shepherded around by his wife.

and the Easter Bunny

[quote]I just don't see him appealing to either the regular Republicans or the even more wackadoo far-right side.

Every poll shows he's wildly popular with repubs. They LOVE the huge balls he's shown in Florida re. Covid, Disney, kicking gender theory BS out of schools, etc. And Fox has already anointed him a hero of the right.

DeSatan looks like a pudgy Italian-American gavone butcher from Bensonhurst! The type who flirts with all the women who come into his shop. AKA sleazy.

[quote] The type who flirts with all the women who come into his shop. AKA sleazy.

Well we can't tolerate a president like 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡!

[quote]DeSatan looks like a pudgy Italian-American gavone butcher from Bensonhurst! The type who flirts with all the women who come into his shop. AKA sleazy.

Wow, bigoted much? He's from FL, not NY. He has degrees from Harvard and Yale. Where did you go to school?

The word "brilliant" is bandied about way too much these days.

Besides, if this fug carb faced creep truly believes in the policies he's pushing, policies which will not actually help his constituents, he isn't exactly brilliant in my eyes. It shows Carb Face only cares about the wealthy and corporations. Like Drumpf, this man only cares about being president, not actually helping anyone but himself and his cronies. Money and power are what most of these politicians care about.

Showing how evil, corrupt and smarmy you are has nothing to do with any sort of brilliance and leadership.

Politics shouldn't be a game, it's not a reality show, but over the past few years these GOP jerks have made it so, they are ruining so many peoples lives. Electing rancid braindead morons like MTG, and other uneducated imbeciles, is proof the US is heading down a very scary path.

We have not seen the amount of damage abolishing Roe vs Wade will cause, this is only the beginning. I also cannot imagine how any sane gay man or lesbian would vote ReThug.

The US truly needs to become two countries or three, because we are turning into a Fascist country.

[quote]Wow, bigoted much? He's from FL, not NY. He has degrees from Harvard and Yale. Where did you go to school?

Bigoted, loooool, I'm part Italian, I can say whatever the fuck I want about this horrible nasty man. He's vile. Berating kids for wearing masks during a pandemic? Not very smart of him, but he was simply posturing and pandering. Typical politician.

Florida, the armpit of the US, I wouldn't be so proud to mention coming from that cesspit.

This man looks like a butcher, deal with it.

I attended school in the UK, anything else, you'd like to know.

[quote] I attended school in the UK

Unless Sidney Poitier was your teacher I'm unimpressed

Fug

Carb Face

Sleazy

Italian-American gavone butcher

Rancid braindead moron

DeSantis is Trump but smarter which is scary. Trump is ego driven but isn’t intelligent enough to understand how to write policies. Death Santis is a Harvard grad who is evil with brains. They’re both horrible and should be silenced but Trumps easier to manipulate , he’s the dog that wants to be loved, he’s Homelander from The Boys TV SHow. Just tell him he’s the best and he will support whatever you say. That’s why MAGA became a thing, he found simpletons that wanted a leader and he knew what they wanted to hear so he went for it and lapped up their undying worship. Gross.

R165, an Italian-American butcher from Bensonhurst who flirts with all the girls who come into his shop = dream man of half of DL.

R165/169...

Why are you defending a man who wouldn't even piss on a queen like you if you were on fire?

Do you honestly believe DeSantis would consider you "a good one" and not persecute you?

I think his boring personality actually works in his favor. After an insane drama queen like Trump, the last thing people want is another showman. Trump promised a lot, but delivered very little. He's all talk. Desantis has shown that he will deliver on his promises.

DeSantis is mean Bastard 2.0

Italian American is “literally” the ONLY good thing about him! Capiche?

R164 For the win Creepy old uncle versus flirty girthy butcher.

[quote]Capiche?

Oh-a dear-a!

He is entirely of Italian ancestry, it seems, but very assimilated. I think even his grandparents were born here, so he probably doesn't speak or even understand Italian. It's just a minor aspect of his background. White ethnicity is not much of a thing anymore.

[quote]If Biden is the only other choice in 2024 DeSantis might become more appealing to those who want a President who does not seem confused, lost, unable to follow a train of thought and who needs to be shepherded around by his wife.

If DeSatan is going to be the GOP nominee, then Biden is not who should be running against him. Dems will need to put up someone young, maybe Newsom.

𝐃𝐞𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐬' 𝐞𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐢𝐧 𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐭𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐬, 𝐭𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐥 𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐬

Florida’s governor was bitterly criticized on the left for his education policies and rhetoric, but battleground voters appear to favor much of what he's been saying and doing.

Oh shit... Looking at their chart:

In AZ FL GA MI NV PA WI – 59% disapprove of Biden, 41% strongly disapprove!

There's the blue wall and Joe's backyard!

Does Beto have any, uh, mental issues?

I'm thinking we might need a folksy (and hot!) southern white male more than a Cali man.

I'm asking that weird question because I have a vague memory of him going sort of apeshit in a speech one time, two or three years ago. Don't know if he was high or angry -- something like that.

Still... he may be the one.

[quote] Does Beto have any, uh, mental issues?

Well he still thinks he is a college freshman bro. Does that count?

Oh I can't find it now and probably read it on here somewhere - but Gavin Newsom is running ads in Florida.

Well, at least he's not 80.

Oh and that R181 poll was of "likely voters"

Trying to decide if the skateboard video is a plus or a minus in Murica.

I'm more concerned about his addictions - or hopefully, lack thereof.

If only Gillum had won the FL election. We would be in such a better place.

[quote] If only Gillum had won the FL election. We would be in such a better place.

Sad thing is when you sum up Joe, Hunter, Kamala, and Insider Trading Nancy, it probably 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 be better.

(^.^)😂😀😆😁😂🤣😃😄

Well, let's clear the cobwebs out of the closets as fast as we can. A lot is on the line.

How is this nasally fucking Barney Rubble lookalike fascist turd so popular?

I bet it is partly an illusion, we barely know him. I don't think he has IT!

Another new Florida poll out today has DeSantis beating Trump there 61%-39%.

Repubs are sick of Trump and his family.

He gets uglier everyday as the rancid inside emerges

The Truth

R180: indeed

R193, seems a little wishful if you look at national polls. Trump's candidate just beat Larry Hogan's candidate for the Republican nomination for Governor in Maryland. He won't be elected, but shows where Republican voters are.

Biden beats both of them in a recent poll.

Not recent enough.

Emerson 7/19 - 7/20

Trump 46 Biden 43

Polls dont mean shit. Many of the polls predicted a blue wave in 2020, with Susan Collins and Miss Lindsey consistently behind their opponents.

As said by The Who....meet the new boss, same as the old boss.......

It’s all the same, doesn’t matter which party you pick!

My biggest worry about the Jan 6 committees' hearings is that they will be so successful, that all of Trumps supporters will start to migrate to Death Santis, making him seem like a legitimate republican option. Even Liz and Kinzinger will joyfully support him. But he is waaay worse than Trump. Way worse.

^Too late. It's already happened.

R203, DeSantis is evil, scheming and cruel, with fascist tendencies: he is within Republican norms. He has not proven himself to be “worse than Trump.”

Doing that don't say gay bill and criticizing ctr which is not even taught is worse. Ya, desantis is worse.

Trump will facilitate a Dem winning the Presidency before he lets ANY Republican, especially DeSantis beat him.

More evil than Trump, but with 1/2 a brain

I'll have to learn the hard way - and I promise, I've never voted for a Republican in my life and I'm 67... but I can easily imagine Trump deciding one day to bomb Moscow for the fun of it or because he's pissed off that Putin wouldn't take his call. I think the world could literally end if he's back in 2024

I don't think DeSantis would destroy the planet.

The US, yeah, but is there really much hope with the Maga base in it?

DeSantis getting the nomination over Trump reminds me of that quote in the last episode of I Claudius when they are arguing over Claudius wanting to marry his evil niece Agrapanilla.

"It will be like Messalina all over again. It'll be worse. It'll be Messalina with brains!"

R211, any argument that suggests that Trump is preferable to someone else is suspect. Trump was barely containable the first time around. It will be much worse if he gets a second term.

Bump

DeSantis is a right-wing empty suit willing to push for anything his donors want. He killed his own constituents to raise COVID infections, so he could push for snake oil COVID treatments from his donors.

The Deplorables will dump Trump very soon, because he can't give them the legitimacy of being racist pieces of shit anymore. Unless he paints himself (once again?) as a rogue revolutionist who is willing to drain the swamp (for real this time! Pinky swear!) of the political establishment. But this time he has to fully commit to the right-wing terrorist angle. He won't be able to rely on guys like Steve Bannon and Roger Stone to do his dirty work for him, since they are already in deep shit.