What’s wrong with homosexuality being a choice?

Who asked you? Why are you here trolling Gays? Who sent you? 😠

Conservatives say it's a choice because they know it's mean to pick on someone for something they didn't choose.....so claiming it's a choice gives them a license to hate us

I didn't choose it, but if I had a choice, I STILL WOULD BE A HOMO.

Well, I personally believe that most U.S. Americans can't do so because some people do not HAVE maps, such as the Iraq.

Gee, let's see....what if Op is correct?

Well, that would mean we could 'pray the Gay away.' Right, OP?

It would also mean that Trans could 'choose' to be straight or Gay or bi or whatever. Right, Op?

And, it would mean that Gays and Lesbians shouldn't discriminate against T's as sexual partners, because sexuality is just a choice; and we certainly don't want to deny the humanity of these poor, downtrodden T's. Right, Op?

No, Op. None of that is right, because your initial premise is wrong. People here KNOW that you're wrong, because being same-sex attracted is OUR Lived Truth.

So Op is either deluded&stupid, or an asshole troll. I'm guessing the fool is all of those and more.

if it were a choice then closet cases wouldn't exist.

Hollywood is proving that gay is highly genetic. Most are closet cases but the kids are coming out as gay. Seems to be a strong connection between gay parents and transexual kids too. I'm looking at you Cher.

Definitely not a choice. Being gay is a form of torture. Most war heroes are gay because you need a medal to compensate. Or Olympic medal. Or seven tour defrances.

[quote]Being gay is a form of torture.

You're not doing it right.

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I was taking to this gay guy who mentioned Satre’s notion of Bad Faith. I also read some of English translation of Dir Eigene that talked about how homosexuality, thought it was mostly about based on Hellenism. They argued that all men have the capacity for opposite and same sex attraction. They argued that male homosexuality was beneficial for Germanic culture.

The men who wrote Die Eigan were Porto-Nazis. They would argued that the trans people were degenerate. They would also argued that people have the right to their own sexual boundaries.

The Troll OP is also OP of another TROLL thread:

[quote]Is it wrong that I want only gay friends? People act like it’s strange. I’m tired of straight people and their problems.

R5 = MAAAAAAAARY!!!

Who cares if it’s a choice or not? You should be free to live your life. Period. Whether it’s nature or nurture is irrelevant.

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Did you choose to be het, OP?

R13, why do you do that in every thread?

If being black was a choice, would it be OK to discriminate against them?

I think conservatives double down on this because they can get traction in light of the fact that while the underlying attraction isn't a choice, the actual conduct that results in "active" homosexuality - fucking and having relationships with other men - is a choice.

Because, OP, for most of us, it's simply not our experience. We were same-sex-attracted for as long as we can remember. Many of us spent years trying to be something other than gay, and despite our best efforts, it just wasn't possible.

That it's a choice is a heterosexist talking point, and what it boils down to is, "you're only doing this to inconvenience everyone else."

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R15, I block anti-Biden bisexual trolls like you.

If you believe homosexuality is a choice, you must, therefore also believe that heterosexuality is a choice and well, ask a straight man or woman why they haven't chosen to be homosexual and see what kind of responses you get.

Bottom line is, if it's a choice you are saying that all people could choose to be attracted to the same sex if they just decide to. Next time you see someone claiming it's a choice, ask them when they decided to be straight.

It is a lifestyle and a choice. That’s why so many of Gen Z are queer, non-binary, pan etc….

R22, "non-binary" doesn't necessarily mean gay.

And I seriously doubt the findings of that survey. It was done by GLAAD, all the numbers look way too high at every age group. I think this is an example of sample bias.

r7's post is a perfect encapsulation of a certain kind of insanity

r22 all those labels mean nothing. I long for the days when people didn't want to be labeled as anything. You either sucked cock, or you did not suck cock. Or you sucked cock and ate pussy.

At this point, I'd like to know if that part has changed. I don't think so. Calling yourself something other than gay/lesbian/trans or straight is fucking stupid because it does not change the fact that you do one of those two options.

I don't understand how anyone could possibly choose their sexual orientation. It is what it is.

I believe that humans are a blank slate and just end up straight or bi or gay or boring based on experiences / external stimuli etc. I don't believe it is bad to be gay or straight, people just end up how they end up. One is not better than the others.

Except plenty of people have gay desires before they've had any gay experience....

It's wrong because it implies that you could choose otherwise, and that you could choose differently if you were so inclined. It encourages people to persuade you to change your mind for other reasons. The premise of choice rejects the fact that being gay is part of who you are.

You mean like heterosexuality is a choice, OP?

If it's a choice, you can change your mind.

If you could choose, the conservatives can call it a lifestyle and condemn it. Easier to be a homophobe if they think it is a lifestyle, very bad for gay people.

R24 schizophrenia? Fingers crossed it's not.

R27 you can say that about anything. Right and wrong is decided by society. It's relative. Does gay harm society? Do pedophiles harm society?

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[quote]I believe that humans are a blank slate and just end up straight or bi or gay or boring based on experiences / external stimuli etc. I don't believe it is bad to be gay or straight, people just end up how they end up. One is not better than the others.

I disagree, R27. There are boys who look and act effeminate from a very early age and are interested in things that are considered to be stereotypically girls' interests. They identify as gay men as adults. What would be the experiences and external stimuli in those cases? I think sexual orientation is set at a very early age, probably at birth, possibly because of genetics and / or hormonal environment in the womb.