I know we have a big thread on Uvalde…
But this is for the people who aren’t reading it…
THE CLASSROOM DOOR WAS NOT LOCKED, AND THISE USELESS POLICE OFFICERS DID NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO OPEN OT FOR THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THE MASSACRE WAS OCCURRING AND WHILE DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF CHILDREN BLED OUT AND DIED.
All of them, “good guys” with guns and still, this happened literally underneath their noses and on their watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||July 2, 2022 4:08 AM
I can't believe none has yet committed suicide. If this were Japan, at least five officials would have offed themselves by now out of shame.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||June 21, 2022 4:53 PM
It was also revealed the other day that an officer had a shot at the gunman but, for some reason, chose not to take it.
As of now they’re saying he didn’t think he could make the shot without possibly injuring other kids, but the story is constantly changing so who knows?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||June 21, 2022 4:56 PM
The victims were all dark and/or brown, so we're not concerned about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||June 21, 2022 4:57 PM
Given all the changing stories I won’t be shocked if we find out he took the shot but hit a kid
|by Anonymous||reply 5||June 21, 2022 4:58 PM
"I would have run in unarmed."
|by Anonymous||reply 6||June 21, 2022 5:09 PM
This topic makes me suicidal.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||June 21, 2022 5:12 PM
[quote] Given all the changing stories I won’t be shocked if we find out he took the shot but hit a kid
I think you are on to something. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I think that you are on to something.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||June 21, 2022 5:21 PM
I don't want to judge the police. I don't know the situation they faced that day (besides the obvious). Some of these officers have families to support. Are they supposed to sacrifice their lives and leave their children behind because yet another angry person hell-bent on revenge was able to get a hold of a gun? And what would they be sacrificing their lives for? It's just going to happen again and again.
Last year, Republicans were screaming "Blue lives matter!" and crying about how we need to elevate the police. Now they're throwing the police under the bus because they need someone to blame for this crime. A bunch more kids are dead (again), but it CANT be because it's too easy to buy a machine gun. It has to be the fault of the police.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||June 21, 2022 5:25 PM
[quote] Last year, Republicans were screaming "Blue lives matter!" and crying about how we need to elevate the police.
Just not the Capitol Police, apparently.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||June 21, 2022 5:38 PM
[quote] "I would have run in unarmed."
Muthafucka, you wouldn’t have run anywhere unless you was chasing the ice cream truck leave Maralardo.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||June 21, 2022 5:39 PM
r10 Are you the person constantly defending these loser cops on every thread? Are you one of them? A family member?
YES. The cops should have risked their lives to save those children. The children in front of them in an unlocked room being slaughtered were the children they should have been protecting and trying to save. Those were the children they should have been concerned about. Not their own children who were safe somewhere else, not hypothetical children in a hypothetical future. The children being slaughtered.
If you aren't willing to risk your life to help children being murdered ten feet from your pussy ass, then don't take the job in the first place. And don't post pictures of yourself in all your combat gear trying to look like a bad ass when in reality you run from people who need your help.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||June 21, 2022 5:57 PM
We should bring back old school Westerns like "High Noon" to remind people that it doesn't matter what kind of firepower you're holding if the other guy draws first.
Also maybe some WWI trench warfare movies like "All Quiet on the Western Front" to remind them that nobody ever won a battle by running straight into oncoming bullets.
I don't really blame those cops for hiding during the shootings because there was probably so much piss and shit pouring down their legs they would have slipped in it and smashed their heads.
We need to make the gun humpers' worst nightmare come true and start taking their guns away. Enough is enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||June 21, 2022 6:53 PM
I didn't realize that law enforcement job descriptions have an opt out clause if officers feel too threatened by dangerous situations. Those rascally police unions and their contract negotiators!
|by Anonymous||reply 16||June 21, 2022 6:58 PM
Uh oh, someone needs to pay big time.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||June 22, 2022 12:55 AM
Guns are the problem. Direct your energy at gun control.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||June 22, 2022 1:14 AM
This is a small town, one few people had even heard of. Why do you expect a handful of local yokel cops to behave like a SWAT team? None of them had ever seen anything like this before.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||June 22, 2022 1:19 AM
I am the biggest pussy on earth (thank God I am a woman so I don't have to act all brave all the time), and I don't know how I would've acted as a teacher. I don't know if I could have put myself in between a shooter and a kid, but I also don't know if I could live with myself if I didn't. I never want to find out.
My husband is a firefighter, and has gone into dangerous situations. He tells me that the cops here in NJ make around $100,000 or more. They are not forced to take those jobs. Those cobs love the perks. I doubt the ones in Uvalde make that much dough, but they still love the perks and the image. They were giant pussies and should be put in jail. Saving people is their fucking job. They took that job. Fuck them.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||June 22, 2022 1:26 AM
[quote]Why do you expect a handful of local yokel cops to behave like a SWAT team? None of them had ever seen anything like this before.
Because they'd just received training and bullet-proof equipment to do so...
|by Anonymous||reply 21||June 22, 2022 1:33 AM
Those cops need to lose their jobs and any vested pensions.
If they don't, the next time there is any kind of school or hostage situation, parents and relatives will disobey the cops and swarm into the danger zone. If the cops are doing their jobs, the parents should stay away so as not to complicate the police's job.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||June 22, 2022 1:45 AM
All it takes is a good guy with a gun, huh?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||June 22, 2022 2:08 AM
Greg Abbott is helping them cover up
|by Anonymous||reply 24||June 22, 2022 2:12 AM
They needed to now the guy had unloaded his gun before they could enter the room safely.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||June 22, 2022 2:13 AM
[quote]I don't want to judge the police. I don't know the situation they faced that day (besides the obvious). Some of these officers have families to support. Are they supposed to sacrifice their lives and leave their children behind because yet another angry person hell-bent on revenge was able to get a hold of a gun?
No, the "armed teachers" are supposed to do that.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||June 22, 2022 3:02 AM
Aren't most of them immigrants? Just doing jobs Americans won't do eh?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||June 22, 2022 3:02 AM
The Uvalde police was a complete shit show. Not only did they do nothing of any value whatsoever, they lied about what they did do.
19 kids slaughtered because the police acted like a bunch of keystone cops.
We all saw the videos of them running around in armor and with rifles. It was all fucking theatre. They were running around looking and dangerous and fierce but acted like a bunch of pussies.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||June 22, 2022 3:11 AM
The reason details keep changing is because they are lying out of their asses and hoping anything sticks
They didn't do a damned thing for over an hour.
They actually did one thing. They beat up, handcuffed and the threaten the parents out front who wanted to run in and try to rescue the kids
|by Anonymous||reply 29||June 22, 2022 3:18 AM
Mass shootings scare THEM? LOL!
There are ways to reduce the number of them. Democrats are fighting to do it. The majority of Americans want it.
Doing nothing about a problem only makes a problem worsen. Ignoring an issue only compounds it. The more Republicans and ammosexuals try to say guns matter more than our lives, the stronger the eventual legislation will be.
It's only how many more innocent people will have to needlessly die by gun violence until enough people say:"ENOUGH."
|by Anonymous||reply 30||June 22, 2022 10:50 AM
Wow, the door was unlocked.
Let that sink in for a second
|by Anonymous||reply 31||June 22, 2022 11:14 AM
In addition to proper training, the real issue is banning ASSAULT WEAPONS.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||June 22, 2022 11:16 AM
"The gunman was cornered in a locked room by the police, and at that point we needed to wait for tactical and SWAT to come in and get him" was the story we were told at first, and I'm absolutely certain the truth is that they were scared and in over their heads, so they concocted both those reasons to delay going in there. I would bet they also told themselves that all the kids were dead anyway, so there was no reason to go into the room. Whatever they had to tell themselves, they did. Now they're having to cover up their cowardice. I wish one of them would come forward to tell the truth, but I don't think any of them are that kind of person.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||June 22, 2022 11:27 AM
[Quote]Let that sink in for a second.
Since 2009, there have been 278 mass shootings in the United States, but, by all means, focus on the response and not the problem, R31. There doesn't seem to be any urgency.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||June 22, 2022 11:35 AM
Since Republicans want to arm teachers, how is that coming along? Are they setting up programs to provide teachers with guns and ample hours of training? Where are the videos of teachers high-fiving each other after gunning down school shooters in effigy?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||June 22, 2022 11:54 AM
Some local school district, probably in Texas or Florida, will arm teachers, and within 3 months a gun will be found by a little kid who accidentally shoots someone with it, or an older kid will steal the gun and start shooting, and that will be the end of that little experiment.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||June 22, 2022 11:57 AM
Here in flyover, no one is even talking about this anymore and the nightly news gave it about 5 seconds and spent more time on the price of gas.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||June 22, 2022 12:40 PM
George Conway retweeted a tweet about this story. Wow.
[quote] Texas Department of Public Safety Director Col. Steven McCraw revealed that the husband of slain elementary teacher Eva Mireles tried to save her but was barred from doing so.
[quote] Ruben Ruiz is a police officer for the school district and was on the scene after the gunman entered the school and opened fire.
[quote] McCraw said Mireles called Ruiz and told him that “she had been shot and was dying.”
[quote] “And what happened to him, is he tried to move forward into the hallway,” McCraw said. “He was detained and they took his gun away from him and escorted him off the scene.”
[quote] McCraw didn’t say who specifically detained Ruiz.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||June 22, 2022 12:54 PM
The news everywhere is talking about inflation. Gun control is not primarily on everyone's mind right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||June 22, 2022 12:55 PM
Yep. Just on the minds of the Uvalde parents. Everyone else went home and turned out the lights.
That's the difference between the US and civilized countries, your Honor.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||June 22, 2022 1:32 PM
And on the minds of the Uvalde cops who are feverishly trying to make up excuses to explain their craven inaction.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||June 22, 2022 1:47 PM
[quote] Since 2009, there have been 278 mass shootings in the United States, but, by all means, focus on the response and not the problem,
There are MANY problems here
|by Anonymous||reply 42||June 22, 2022 2:03 PM
Police departments all over the country have been suiting up with military-grade equipment. They're swimming in money as no politician is actually willing to cut funding.
And now you see, it's all a show.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||June 22, 2022 2:05 PM
[quote]"I would have run in unarmed."—DJT
"Let's roll!" roared greg abbott.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||June 22, 2022 2:19 PM
It was during the Global Elite Meeting in Davos, and Matthew McConaughey hails from this small town, and has played in various political, jurisdictional/legal, and a few historic movies and is somewhat poltically active. There was also an amok drive/terrorist act, here in Germany, Berlin, at that time, with a man driving in a few people with a car, and the somewhat underemployed, ageing, openly gay (so not blackmailable and controllable through this, but still) Hollywood star John Barrowman happening to be on the scene, making videos after the deed. The buying twitter thing of Elon Musk may have also been a diversionary tactic. Control the news cycle.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||June 22, 2022 2:26 PM
[quote] All of them, “good guys” with guns and still, this happened literally underneath their noses and on their watch.
Except they weren't "good guys" with guns. If they had been good guys with guns they would've attempted to stop the shooter. They were cowards with guns. A coward with a gun is of no use to anyone because a coward with a gun is still a coward.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||June 22, 2022 2:47 PM
And old Joe Biden offered to pay for a new school. I didn't appreciate that or him helping out ron desantis when that building collapsed in Florida. The repugs do not appreciate these things at all and all it accomplishes is covering up for republican failures that led to hundreds of people getting killed.
Let the God damned republicans clean up their own mess. I don't want my tax dollars used to sweep republican crimes under the rug. When is this old man going to learn anything?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||June 22, 2022 9:17 PM
It might have been worse. The cops might have decided that they needed to send a couple kids from other classrooms into the classroom just to suss out if it was still dangerous to enter.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||June 23, 2022 12:09 AM
R48 Fuck, don't give them ideas.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||June 23, 2022 1:30 AM
"Creating another wave of anger toward the beleaguered police department, new footage released Wednesday showed Uvalde officers rushing into Robb Elementary School to take selfies with the shooter."
|by Anonymous||reply 50||June 23, 2022 1:37 AM
Next there's going to be a mysterious headboard injury that effected the judgment of the officer who made the rest stand down.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||June 23, 2022 1:49 AM
Well, this much we can be sure of:
If any of these cops live, not just patrol/work in Uvalde, they’re going to have to move FAR away, asap.
No way are they going to be able to peacefully live in a town where they did nothing while kids died.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||June 23, 2022 1:54 AM
R52 I'd recommend not moving anywhere in Texas and perhaps changing their names anywhere in the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||June 23, 2022 1:56 AM
[quote]injury that effected the judgment
|by Anonymous||reply 54||June 23, 2022 2:05 PM
Won't anyone think of the poor shooter. Having to suffer so much incompetence around him by the kids and teachers and cops. He must have been bored!
|by Anonymous||reply 55||June 23, 2022 3:44 PM
[quote] Next there's going to be a mysterious headboard injury that effected the judgment of the officer who made the rest stand down.
He'll be fine. There was a cop in a Florida shooting who hid and refused to save the kids.
If the democrats were smart they'd really be capitalizing on the fact that these police officers were afraid of that gun
And the pieces of shit on the city counsel wanted to give this coward cop a leave of absence. He asked for leave because he wants to hide out and avoid criticism. They were ready to give it to him and Some woman got up and had it out with them. She had to tell these fucking morons who rushing to protect this cop and save his cop and city counsel seat, what the actual laws/bylaws/rules were and that they should refuse his leave of absence and let him miss 3 city counsel meetings and they would be able to toss him off.
Although these cunting cunts on the city counsel never should have sworn him in after he let all those children get murdered. But their first thought was to swear him in and help him cover up his crimes
Uvalde, ya'll need to clean house. All you have are cowards and crooks running the entire city government. Get all new people. Vote each and every one of these losers out. Harass all of them until they move out of town. They shouldn't be able to leave their homes without getting screamed at. They shouldn't get a minute's peace
|by Anonymous||reply 56||June 24, 2022 4:12 AM
The reason I would put myself between a shooter and a child is because I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t. I don’t know how these guys will live with themselves. The rest of their lives will be a kind of death.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||June 24, 2022 8:14 AM
R57 you think that but half of them are stupid and immoral and will get over it quickly. You would have to be immoral to stand there for an hour doing nothing.
America has a crisis of character.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||June 24, 2022 8:16 AM
You are right R58. None of those cops have quit. None have been disciplined. The city counsel's first mission was to swear in the police chief (who got all the kids killed & refused to save them) onto the city council. Then a week or two later, their second top priority was to try and protect & shield him from any criticism.
Everyone in Texas is okay with it too. I haven't heard anything more about this. It's as if this never happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||July 1, 2022 12:30 AM
I wouldn’t say forgotten. There is an investigation going on that isn’t being very forthcoming. Also, the City Council had no choice but to swear in the Chief, he had been officially elected and was not under indictment. But if he misses their next meeting it will be three in a row and then the residents can vote him out, which I imagine will happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||July 2, 2022 12:10 AM
At 54 minutes, the mayor reads 2 letters. One from DA. One from DPS.
Both state "pursuant to Texas Govt Code 552 — a request to withhold information due to an ongoing investigation."
It's simply "A REQUEST."
Not an "order."
Release the information to these suffering parents!
|by Anonymous||reply 61||July 2, 2022 3:57 AM
i am sorry dear, but no one cares about uvalde any more
it is all abortion and EPA now, with covid and recession on the horizon
|by Anonymous||reply 62||July 2, 2022 4:08 AM