Se7en (1995)

What’s in the booooooooooox?

Any movie where Gwyneth Paltrow's character dies is a good one.

R2 good way to spoil it!!!!!

Yes, that is why the movie Outbreak was so enjoyable - we got to watch her die in that.

I’ve always pronounced the name of the movie

Suh seven en

Anyone else?

The last line of the movie is great: "Ernest Hemingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."

Brad Pitt at his finest

I've always been afraid to watch it.

Is it really that bad?

[QUOTE] I’ve always pronounced the name of the movie Suh seven en. Anyone else?

Uhh, no.

One of my favorites. I love it. Wonderfully crafted, great performances.

R8 It is doable. I had to shut my eyes in some scenes. But overall is ok for the squeamish.

It’s not bad in a sense that it will frighten you, R8. But it will certainly leave some gruesome imagery permanently imprinted on your memory. I’ve only seen it a couple times and haven’t watched it in years, but I can still see those crime scenes in my mind like I just watched it yesterday.

I think there are some frightening moments, r12, especially if you have seen it in the theater, like i did. I remember everyone jumping at a shot sequence that was very unexpected. Otherwise it manages to keep you in a state of tension and dread that is difficult to sustain, there being hardly any light moments. Agree that some imagery stays with you for a long long time.

I've never seen it, but I really liked "Day of the Jackal," so I might enjoy this, right?

Totally overrated.

r2, Even if you don't like Gwyneth personally, you have to admit she's a great actress.

r4, Don't you mean Contagion.

Seven is one of my favorite films. I just love these type of films when done well. This reminds me Morgan Freeman has been in a lot of shit, in a wide variety of genres. I just love his silent wisdom. Pitt is darn good in this too. The pacing, the writing, mostly everything works. Great concept of a film, and smartly executed.

I liked this movie but I don't think it's a masterpiece. It's visually very beautiful and transgressive. Definitely ambitious. But it fell flat to me especially regarding the characterization. Today it would have totally been a miniseries. Brad was actually very wooden in this role, Morgan and Gwyneth acted circles around him. Brad did look hot though.

This is one of my favorite films. It's very atmospheric, suspenseful and well-acted by all involved (even Paltrow). It's disturbing, sure, but not in a gratuitous way. I posted the opening title sequence in another thread...it's one of the best and pulls you right in.

r19, Good point about Seven would have to be a miniseries to get produced today. The industry has changed so much. A smart, crime thriller for adults got made this year though, it had to be marketed as 'Batman'.

This film was almost ruined by Brad Pitt.

If Gwennie is out acting you and putting you in the shade, up your game or walk away.

He's done neither, but still makes money in our irrational world.

Se7en was a fantastic neo-noir film. It had the requisite elements of raw grit, gore and atmosphere crafted into a suspenseful and intricate composition, all without being derivative.

I’m not a fan of gratuitous and graphic violence in film, but this film’s bloody, homicidal content worked as being complementary, rather than being a contrary, bloated distraction. IMHO, I think Spacey, Freeman and Pitt were superbly cast and played their roles exceptionally well.

Its annoying me that Gwyneth Paltrow was not in Outbreak yet two people have liked that comment. What in the Mandela Effect hell.

In the Silence of the Lambs thread, I posted that I saw it on a first date with my first boyfriend.

By coincidence, I saw Seven on a date with a later boyfriend. I didn't like the movie (too grimy, too gory, too silly), but he loved it. So I didn't end up in his lap in terror like I had with Silence of the Lambs; instead, I was just rolling my eyes at the ridiculousness of it all by the time it was over.

I agree with someone upthread that it’s overrated. It’s a solid pic but not legendary, or at least not deservedly so.

I went to high school with the screenwriter, I was in the same grade as his brother and he was a year ahead. Brett Michaels also went to our high school.

The height of Brad Pitt’s beauty.

What bugged me is they wanted the city to be unidentified so nothing distinctive was shown. But the police cars were just marked “Police.” Who does that?

Gwenyth died for us in Contagion, not in Outbreak. Rene Russo died for us in Outbreak which was far less satisfying.

Kevin Spacey’s character got on my nerves more than he creeped me out. He’s overrated as an actor.

Perhaps—but nobody does Kevin Spacey like Kevin Spacey.

Kevin Spacey is a very great actor in my opinion.

R29 I always thought it was Baltimore for some reason.

It seemed like Seattle to me.

[quote] [R2] good way to spoil it!!!!!

Honey, that film is 27 years old. If by this time you've not seen it, you deserve to have it spoiled.

It was actually filmed in LA.

[quote] [R2], Even if you don't like Gwyneth personally, you have to admit she's a great actress.

Gwyneth, you're embarrassing yourself again.

R17 Yes, Contagion. She is in Asia and carries the deadly virus to the US.

I never saw Se7en, but I did see the sequel Ei8ht.

Actually I think Rene Russo doesn’t die in Outbreak. Dustin Hoffman saves her.

I must have been thinking of her careeer.

Did they ever finish the second sequel N9ne?

It was my bad R41. I was thinking of Paltrow in Contagion.

R42, no.

But there is an upcoming prequel called 6ix.

I liked the porn knock-off Se7en !nches.

If they’re going to use Brad again, they should call it 4our, if you know what I mean.

[QUOTE] Actually I think Rene Russo doesn’t die in Outbreak. Dustin Hoffman saves her. I must have been thinking of her careeer.

I think Rene Russo dies in Lethal Weapon 3.

She's in Lethal Weapon 4, so I don't think that's right.

La Spacey is great in that role. I think he loves playing psychopaths.

I was going to say Renee doesn't die in Outbreak either, Dustin Hoffman saves her. Lol@ career death.

I always liked Rene Russo, but she never really impressed me as an actress until I saw her in Nightcrawler -- she was fantastic in that film and should've been a serious contender for a Supporting Actress Oscar nomination. She was certainly better than any of the actresses who were nominated in the category for 2014.

I saw it recently in the cinema, the scene where John Doe arrives home, cloaked in shadow, to find the detectives waiting for him and pauses briefly before dropping his grocery bag and opening fire, then the following chase scene was thrilling, amazing to experience in the cinema. Freeman was great, such a comfort, Ms Paltrow was lovely, Pitt had his endearing moments, I'll have to watch again to decide on how he did during the climax - apparently the original plan was to have Pitt's character turn the gun on himself after shooting Spacey, but the studio said no.

One thing - I thought the man interrogated for the lust murder (played by Lehan Morley) should have turned out to be John Doe, something about the actor, I think he'd have made it way more chilling rather than camp, and the set up would have been perfect.

^sorry, poorly written

R52, yes, that’s the scene i referred too as well, everybody jumped at the cinema. And he comes out of the blue so the whole chase is indeed mesmerizing (and scary).

Does Goop sell a vagina scented candle for when you find your wife's head in a box?

Say what you will about Goop, but she got Brad in her "box" when he was at his finest.

I watched this on VHS while I was home for spring break back in 1996. Shortly after it started, I felt like I was short of breath & felt my heart racing (palpitations, which I didn't know about then) & had to watch the movie in 10-minute increments; I'd pause it, catch my breath, & start again.

It didn't just scare me, it got under my skin & really affected me! The palpitations lasted about 3 months. I was a zombie the day after watching it, & kept thinking that the plot was so clever & twisted, surely there would be real-life copycats who'd replicate it.

I bought it on Blu-Ray & have wanted to watch it, but haven't worked up my nerve yet. I would hope I don't get spooked like I did the first time; I'm older, wiser, & already know the major plot twists & jump scares (even after one viewing 25+ yrs back).

My sister watched it with her boyfriend & said how loud the movie was, & also mentioned the gunshot that caused most of the audience to jump. IIRC she said people were leaving the theater part-way through it (probably out of fear, not from hating the movie, I would think).

[quote] It’s very atmospheric

It’s so dark and constantly pouring rain. Just the visuals alone are oppressive and depressing.

Se7en has not aged well.

Very run-of-the-mill detective story.

As a big middle finger to the bitch who high jacked the great Silence of the Lambs thread, here it goes: Silence of the Lambs is a better film. End of discussion.

[quote]R24 Its annoying me that Gwyneth Paltrow was not in Outbreak yet two people have liked that comment. What in the Mandela Effect hell.

I preferred her in “The Lovely Bones”. And she’s currently topping her work from “Se7en” in “The Staircase” on Netflix.

I’m glad she’s back.

[quote]R41 Actually I think Rene Russo doesn’t die in Outbreak. Dustin Hoffman saves her. I must have been thinking of her career.

Again, SPOILER ALERTS, please!

Which movie had the sneeze in the movie theater? That freaked me the fuck out!

I loathed this film as much as I loved Silence of the Lambs.

It takes place in a city where no one has invented overhead lighting.

It has the only acting Arquette whose name you can't remember (Richmond).

The big show down over the box at the end is so damned melodramatic it's risible.

It's manipulative as hell, where Silence is not.

BTW it's Leland Orser who plays the lust murderer - and he's a match for Faye Dunaway in Mommy Dearest.

[quote]r63 Which movie had the sneeze in the movie theater? That freaked me the fuck out!

That was Scents & Sensibility.

The worst part by far was the fucked-with-a-razor-studded-strap-on murder scene. Not Gwyneth's annoying head in the box.

*The worst part by far was the 'fucked-with-a-razor-studded-strap-on' murder scene. Not Gwyneth's annoying head in the box.

[quote] BTW it's Leland Orser who plays the lust murderer

Gah, thank you r64, I just copied the name under a photo of him, but it must've been the name of the poster.

[quote] and he's a match for Faye Dunaway in Mommy Dearest.

which is why him shifting gears and revealing himself as Doe would have worked so well!

Don't know why the text isn't reading right in my post above. It was to read "strap-on"

Yet another Brad Pitt film that would have been better with another actor in his role! There are so many, but a lot of such movies would never have been made if Pitt hadn't used his clout and name to get them funded, so I have to put up with his presence.

It's been a long time, but the main thing I remember about it is how chilling Kevin Spacey was - he played his villain as utterly forgettable and ordinary, a complete nothing of a human who'd still done what he'd did.

I remember that Brad Pitt severely injured his arm and required surgery while making the movie.

R69, The DL reply window only allows a certain amount of continuous characters (including special characters), to which it automatically adds a “break” after you hit the “Post” button.

I remember that, r71. Morgan Freeman had Brad raise his arm in addition to applying pressure to stem the bleeding.

Good on Morgan with his first aid skills.

[quote] But there is an upcoming prequel called 6ix.

Coincidentally the age of the actor Spacey will take under his wing during production.