Gay Twitter executive caught in video honey trap, slams Elon Musk

I feel like Elon just want to screw Twitter over with this deal and exposes its weakness for market manipulation and promo his own upcoming free speech platform or whatev.

Anything coming from Project Veritas cannot be trusted.

If it really is true that the number of fake accounts oh Twitter is substantially higher than the admitted 5%, that revelation could literally destroy the company. Maybe that was his objective all along.

It's absolutely true that these comments could have been taken out of context and selectively edited to make them sound far worse. But really, let's be honest, they are pretty damning statements.

The one thing I can't forgive is that Project Veritas probably used a straight man as the honey pot.

He sounds pretty straight. That pisses me off.

In all these Twitter sting videos (I've seen 3 today) they are taking advantage of the fact this is supposed to be a date, where people are always keen to impress, and milking their dupes for information. The guys who've been stung are clearly trying hard to be entertaining to their dates, who I assume are all hot and out of their leagues.

really, the DL is going to feel sorry for a gay exec?

Just imagine of if Elon decided to buy Bravo and how quick you'd all be racing to eat the corn out Andy Cohen.

R7, were the other ones gay guys like this? if so, please post. That was hilarious.

No they're all straight tech guys being honey trapped by a hot woman.

Well, he's almost certainly a poster on here.

Why, because of the pearl clutch moment?

My Theory = Elon Musk does NOT have 54 Billion Dollars. He just doesn't have that kind of cash. He has to pay a 1 BILLION dollar penalty if he does not go thru with the Twitter deal and now he is trying to get out of it by shelling out as small amount of money as he can.

[quote]My Theory = Elon Musk does NOT have 54 Billion Dollars. He just doesn't have that kind of cash.

The $54 billion isn't all his cash—he's gathered other investors, as well as securing loans with his Tesla stock as collateral. Of course, said stock has tanked 25% in the last month, so the banks might be screwing him even tighter. The loans themselves were already going to cost him $1 billion a year to service. He's definitely gotten himself in a pickle, and now that he's coming out of his stupor, he probably realizes that.

It's giving shades of Rupert Murdoch and MySpace—burning money by overpaying for a website in terminal decline.

That sassy queen speaks truth, but the Valley-speak is, like, super-annoy!

He would be smart to find a way to pull out now.

R4, he's speaking in complete sentences and paragraphs. I don't find it surprising that Twitter has the corporate culture he describes.

I need to know if sex happened.

R14, owning Twitter would give him access to personal data, which is the platinum mine of the future.

Right at the end she twigs that her dishing while on a date is exactly what she's not supposed to do. She must have realized in that moment she was in trouble but didn't want to admit to being foolish..

[quote] The $54 billion isn't all his cash—he's gathered other investors, as well as securing loans with his Tesla stock as collateral.

That's going to be Musk's real problem. He dragged other investors into this stunt. Who's going to get into business with him now? Peter Thiel and other Libertarians?

I knew Musk was absolutely and totally full of shit regarding this Twitter deal.

Project Veritas helping Musk? Tesla is so dead.

Trump's already back on Twitter, so maybe he cancelled his check to Musk.

They'd only be helping him get out of Twitter not buy it.

If he does buy Twitter he will have to fire almost everyone to change the culture.

Ok!

At what point is this sleazy entrapment? if it's a date there is an implied prospect of sex.

Here's another one.

The queen has no idea he's just made a complete ass of himself. What a fool...

One person's "woke ideology" is another person's banning harassment, hate speech, and blatant lies about fairly important things like a global pandemic.

And once again, we have to go over this for the seats in the back: Twitter is a private company. No private company must allow you free speech. They can set their own rules about what's OK and not OK on their platform. That's the freedom for big business the GQP is so obsessed with in every other arena.

Oh I think even though he was drunk near the end and convinced he was closing the deal on sex due to all the attention he was getting from his date, he did realise he might be in trouble when Veritas was mentioned.

R31 that's correct. There's nothing wrong with criticizing a private company, of course, and a corrupt corporate culture.

"Twitter is a private company. No private company must allow you free speech. They can set their own rules about what's OK and not OK on their platform. That's the freedom for big business the GQP is so obsessed with in every other arena."

This is very true but the problem is Twitter claims to be unbiased in its execution of censorship. But it's not true and people notice this.

Let’s see the reporter! Must have been hot to draw this poor guy in.

They would not have sent someone ugly.

If this queen is on here now, can he just let us know he is OK.

About Project Veritas: "Erik Prince, the former head of private mercenary firm Blackwater Worldwide, recruited ex-spies to work with right-wing sting operation Project Veritas to infiltrate liberal groups, The New York Times reported on March 7. He also gave Project Veritas staff access to his Wyoming ranch, where they took "surveillance and elicitation training" from a former British MI-6 officer, as The Intercept reported in May 2019. "

Trump is also a donor as well as the Koch Foundation. Why did Project Veritas do Musk such a big favor?

1.) To lower the price of Twitter's stock? 2.) To get more MAGAs to defect to Trump's bullshit social media site? 3,( To be in Musk's good graces?

I wonder how hot these honeypots are. The guy in this case can't be too hot right? Otherwise the fat executive would think something is up?

No matter how you attack Project Veritas, you can't deny the facts revealed by their videos, which speak for themselves.

Nope. The subjects are always intoxicated and the editing is always selective. Not journal;ism--more like manipulation to obtain propaganda.

Tell me where the deceptive edits are, R41.

[quote]If he does buy Twitter he will have to fire almost everyone to change the culture.

He will probably also need to move the company to somewhere in Middle America to find normal employees.

He will almost certainly move Twitter operations to Texas and that will serve as a de facto employee purge.

“Like he’s a loony tune, he has Asperger’s. So he is special. We all know that. And that is fine. So here, no one is gonna say some f*ck*ng crazy sh*t because he is special.” He continued, “I am like you are special needs– you are literally special needs. Literally, though, you really are. So, I cannot even take what you are saying seriously. Cause you are special.”

There goes his job. But yeah, I bet everyone there thinks that. He feels really comfortable saying it so probably not the first time it's come out of his mouth. All those Repugs that work there that think their voices are being stifled are going to be in for a big surprise when Elon makes them work 12 hours a day with no praise or raise like he does at Tesla.

It's pretty ableist for a woke bloke, isn't it, R45.

Many, or even most, of the real tech types at Twitter would be on the spectrum. This guy I believe is in advertising sales; a totally different breed. And they probably don't interact.

[quote] Like he’s a loony tune, he has Asperger’s

That’s not a gotcha, that’s accurate.

I wouldn't call that guy WOK R46. He's batting for the other team. There are some gay Trumpian conservatives out there.

Twitter's argument has been that they are not a publisher - the accounts are publishers. People have been sued for libel for tweeting lies about people - see Jack Monroe vs Katie Hopkins.

But Twitter is now taking an increasingly editorial view, noticeable in Britain on trans issues. This weekend a protest in Manchester went viral where men in balaclavas dressed in black surrounded the statue of Emmeline Pankhurst and stopped women's rights campaigners from draping it with suffragette colours. One woman was clearly assaulted by one of the trans protesters.

#LetHerSpeak then trended and Twitter provided an overview along the lines of "People discuss the protest by a women's group - which some say is transphobic - in Manchester".

They've also reported on JK Rowling as "People discuss the death threats received by JK Rowling - who many people say is transphobic".

And it's fine they take that position, they just need to be honest about it.

He just sold himself out of a job. If that's how he talks to clients, not good at sales. Imaging what he says about them behind their back. Maybe THATS the reason Twitter is not making money.

My only problem with Twitter is that they bent their rules ONLY for Trump. And they had the never to double down on it by claiming because he was POTUS his tweets were some how more important. Then they waited to a point to where they go so egregious they had to do something. Regardless of what Elon does with the platform, they have already lost their credibility.

We ALL know that most people talk shit like this about their workplaces when they think they are having a private and intimate conversation in a non professional environment. When people are on dates they also usually try their hardest to be entertaining with their conversation. Neither is a crime.

In vin veritas.

If someone posted videos of you without your permission couldn’t you sue their ass?

You can't sue if it's in a public place.

Everyone has a right to take photos or video of anyone in a public place.

Musk is now saying he is a Republicunt and that Biden is a brainless puppet! Good Jesus! WTF is up with him?

R3 It's rumored to be around 25%. That would definitely destroy the company.

R28 It's only entrapment if they compel you to commit a crime.

If it's really that high, they are fucked.

[quote]If it really is true that the number of fake accounts oh Twitter is substantially higher than the admitted 5%, that revelation could literally destroy the company.

Why does that matter?

[quote]It's rumored to be around 25%. That would definitely destroy the company.

Why?

R50, Twitter is writing articles now? I’m not sure what you’re saying. How are they editorializing?

R62 They've been lying to advertisers and substantially overvaluing the company. If I had paid for something from Twitter on the basis that they had x number of users, and it turned out that they only had 3/4 that number, I'd feel cheated and want my money back.

He's a fat.

Thanks, r64!

I wouldn't be surprised if a significant percentage of Twitter accounts are actually bots. Reddit is famous for having seeded bots for the first few years it existed as a way to generate site traffic and pull in new users. Early Reddit threads mostly consisted of bots talking to each other. Now that Reddit's user base has plummeted the bots are more prominent again and easier to spot.

How can they recognize the bots? Is there a way they post? I hate posting on Reddit because I hate getting downvoted. But I downvote everyone else though. LOL.

I have news for you as someone who's worked in digital media for 20 years: EVERY SINGLE digital outlet, platform, and app cooks the books by buying traffic or users to inflate their base.

Every. Single. One. People keep getting caught, and then they find a way to do it more subtly.

There's no way Musk didn't know that going in. Back in the day, print magazines used to boost their circulation all the time by putting copies in hotels or just sending them out to random people.

R68 Repetition, same types of posts and phrases over and over, no emotional reactions, word salad posts (sometimes,) pruning and curating- telling users what can or can't be said based on keywords, objecting to content from certain sites.

Twitter's being made an example R69.

R70 I have always wondered how people buy followers on twitter, too. Does having 0 followers mean you are a bot? LOL.

More deceptively edited Project Veritas garbage. Shame on you, OP.

How is this deceptively edited? Be specific or go lick monkey pocks.

Gay? Yes, based on gay voice.

Twitter? Dunno. Who knows?

Executive? No way.

Twitter executive is very different from executive executive.

They're claiming he's a "lead client partner". That is not executive. He's probably somewhere around a mid-level manager with no direct reports.

Congrats, Veritas. You've recorded the opinion of someone who does not matter.

[quote]How is this deceptively edited?

We can't give you specifics, because we obviously don't have the full video—but the editing is very quick, we rarely hear the other guy's prompts, some of the things he says could be him just repeating back what the "reporter" said, etc. Project Veritas would have edited this to make it seem as bad as possible, they are very very good at this. This Twitter guy is dumb and said dumb stuff, but PV videos should never be taken at face value.

PV edits out their honeypots' voices so they can't be identified. They still get identified, though.

Don't believe your lying eyes!

PV is some of the worst garbage in the known universe and so is anyone who posts it.

Gay Gayerson based on the voice alone.

How does one get the job of "Gay Honeypot" anyway? What's the pay like? Does it come with a jet-setting lifestyle and dalliances in Prague? Size requirements?

I will say this: I've noticed that several of the more notorious pro-Trans tweets that are insulting or make the most absurd claims are from Twitter handles that have no followers and have only been on the site for a month or less. Leads me to believe that they are actually Russian/Chinese/Iranian bots attempting to cause chaos.

Does anyone recognize what bar the guy was at? I assume it was a gay bar.

Regarding the honeypot reporter, I would love to see what he looks like. He must have had to "date" several guys to find one that could give him usable material.

R74 doesn't know anything about Project Veritas

R57, guess he thinks all those insurrectionist Republicans are smart...

What doesn't he know R86? This is annoying, link something or explain yourself.

Imagine fucking up like this and the first thing some people here think to say is SHE'S FAT.

If it is true then it should be exposed, R3.

Too many Democratic politicians are in a thrall to what the woke "masses" on Twitter think.

The dubious interface between Twitter, the media and politics has been begging to be exposed for years.

Twitter is grossly unrepresentative of public opinion but has an outrageous influence on media and politics.

Correct, R91.

Is there a liberal equivalent to Project Veritas?

There ought to be R93.

Help wanted: Gay honeypots required to seduce and betray prominent conservatives. Full sex is not a requirement of employment but is highly regarded.

Omg that ending is hilarious lol lol lol lol

I'm sure SHE doesn't think so.

Both Republicans and Democrats are heavily influenced by Twitter.

Omg

Does anyone know what happened to that poor dumb queen? Was he fired?

Like Twitter would fire him over that. They'd give him free counselling and put a ping pong table and bean bags in his office.

He may be. If you Google his name, all the news on this focuses on his Aspergers comment.

Nothing a basket of puppies bought into the office wouldn't fix. Twitter HR is very progressive.

[quote]Is there a liberal equivalent to Project Veritas?

Sacha Baron Cohen.

Imagine a prospective employer googling your name and something like this comes up.

So organic!

I'm going to defiantly say "I met you organically" every time I cross paths with a life-changing asshole.

R2 Are you claiming this is a deep fake video? That he didn't say what he says in the video? Has he come out and denied he said these things? No. You just hate that someone can peek through the curtain and expose what your side really does and thinks of others. The left are the least liberal people I know. They're downright fascist at this point. Unfortunately they run everything including the media, social media, education, government etc so it's near impossible to get away from their insanity.

If this queen took a photo of his date he should publish it.

I'm sure like all homosexuals he extensively cyberstalked the guy when he was asked out for dinner.

R109 Some liberal PAC somewhere already has the guy identified and is harassing him. Trust.

[quote] I'm going to defiantly say "I met you organically" every time I cross paths with a life-changing asshole.

What did he mean by that anyway? That he met him through a friend or by chance somewhere, rather than a Grindr set up?

r111, yes, he's referencing the notice Twitter sent down to be wary of people they meet via dating apps, so it appears he met the male honeypot "out in the wild," as it were, perhaps at a gay bar. Thus, organically.

Which leads to me to some questions: is the male honeypot gay or straight? Did he go on multiple dates with the guy to get all this information? Do he have sex with the guy?

Did he.

Dammit.

He sounds like the kind of idiot who, five minutes after meeting someone in a bar, blabs about having killed his wife.

R113 He have sex with the man.

Shame on OP.

For not including the descriptor FAT in the thread title.

R108, screeching MAGAt. You really are a desperate delusions fucktwat.

[quote]it's near impossible to get away from their insanity.

As opposed to you MAGAt Rethugs, who swim in it.

Deranged R108:

[quote] The left are the least liberal people I know. They're downright fascist at this point.

Here's an actual account of your side, fucktwat:

Elon has donated to Republicans frequently and not Democrats. He is a Republican through and through, and as of late his one motivation has been "owning the libs" because he is a hateful, self-important toddler who is angry at the world and at life despite having all the money in the world. He gets off on it, now, it's the one thrill he gets anymore.

Oh, honey. I’m so sorry.

Deranged MAGAt R108:

[quote] You just hate that someone can peek through the curtain and expose what your side really does and thinks of others.

Like this?

You're a stupid cunt fart, MAGAt R108.

Deranged loon MAGAt R108:

[quote] Unfortunately they run everything including the media, social media, education, government etc.[/quote]

vs. facts:

"“Sinclair’s probably the most dangerous company most people have never heard of,” said Michael Copps, the George W Bush-appointed former chairman of Federal Communications Commission (FCC), the top US broadcast regulator.

John Oliver – host of HBO’s weekly satirical show Last Week Tonight – used a similar line when he introduced an 18-minute segment on Sinclair last month by referring to it as “maybe the most influential media company you never heard of”.

But that is beginning to change. Sinclair’s size, rightwing politics and close connections to Donald Trump’s White House are starting to attract attention. Democrats are wading in to the fray and demanding answers over Sinclair’s close ties to the Trump administration, which, they say, could mean the group is getting preferential treatment."

r119

[quote] Musk gave $10,800 to Sen. Diane Feinstein’s (D-Calif.) re-election bid late last year. (That is technically twice the legal contribution limit, and Feinstein will have to refund $5,400 of Musk’s money.) And in March, he donated $2,500 to the Democratic Midterm Victory Fund, the PAC of Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, which, according to its website, is working to “elect Democrats to Congress who will stand up for those Americans left out and left behind by Donald Trump and the Republican Majority in Congress.”

R117 Sounds like a peaceful protest. At least it was when your side was burning cities to the ground during the "summer of love" in 2020.

R119 can't stop making shit up. It's what crazy leftwingers do.

MAGAt R108, R124, R125 has been butthurt; snide asinine quips are all he has.

R125 nothing I said is untrue, idiot. You can look up Musk's political donations and see he made donations to Republicans directly before Jan 6 last year and directly after, as well as before then and since then. And as for his low-information libertarianism:

Sorry your god is such a dud.

Maybe it's just me, but if I went on a date with a guy who kept trying to talk about my work I'd think it was very odd and want to end the date quite quickly.

Not necessarily because I'd think I was being caught in a 'honey trap', but if that's all a date wanted to talk about, I'd get bored fast.

It’s a bit different when your work is a leading news story

Stop posting links to articles that have ZERO to do with the topic you psychotic bitch. You're on ignore for a reason so I'm not seeing them anyway.

R128 I usually shut people down if they get all nosy about my private life. But not everyone has the same desire not to talk about themselves.

R130 out of curiosity, if you have him on ignore how do you know whoever you are talking to is posting links to unrelated sites?

R128 The executive is one of those insufferable fools who thinks they're hot shit and brags about their job. If he was simply being asked questions and didn't want to answer them, a normal person would demur and change the topic. Instead this cunt just keeping blabbing and making the company and everyone who works there look like a left wing fascist shit hole. And then he starts mocking people with aspergers. Who does this on a first date? An idiot who thinks everyone is as trashy as he is.

R132 Because he was posting those over and over again before I finally put him on ignore and I keep getting notifications that new comments are being posted but I'm not seeing them (i.e. they're from him spamming the joint).

Anything else you need me to educate you on while I'm here, dear?

I wonder how their second date went.

R134 heavens! Someone got up on the wrong side of the cunt this morning.

No, R136. Just someone who's been dealing with this troll for months now.

r127

[quote] MUSK, ELON HILLARY FOR AMERICA CA TESLA MOTORS 05/01/2015 $2,300.00

[quote] MUSK, ELON HILLARY FOR AMERICA CA TESLA MOTORS 05/01/2015 $2,700.00

[quote] MUSK, ELON R OBAMA FOR AMERICA CA SPACEX 04/15/2011 $2,500.00

[quote] MUSK, ELON R OBAMA FOR AMERICA CA SPACEX 04/15/2011 $2,500.00

[quote] MUSK, ELON R DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE CA SPACEX 04/15/2011 $30,800.00

[quote] MUSK, ELON R OBAMA VICTORY FUND 2012 CA SPACEX 04/15/2011 $35,800.00

[quote] MUSK, ELON DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ FOR CONGRESS CA SPACEX 09/30/2010 $1,000.00

are they part of his evil mastermind NWO conspiracy or did he do it to throw *you* off his track?

Can we please stay on topic and talk about the fat "executive" and mysterious gay honeypot and how hot or not hot he was?

R140 This is what certain trolls do. When they don't want a topic discussed they either get the thread deleted or, if they can't, derail it to the point sane people stop checking for updates. Someone doesn't want you to know what Twitter is like behind the scenes.

Deranged R141 is also deranged MAGAt R108:

[quote] The left are the least liberal people I know. They're downright fascist at this point. Unfortunately they run everything including the media, social media, education, government etc so it's near impossible to get away from their insanity.

Yes, Ned. It's all run by Illuminati lizard people. No one on earth knows about the great cover-up of the decade, that Twitter staff is a bunch of douchbros.

[quote] This is what certain trolls do.

Looking in the mirror, incel MAGAt trolleta cunt fart?

Elon is a hilarious troll and I'm not going to stop laughing at this bullshit. Fuck Twitter, show their ass to world Elon!

It's all a bit suspicious, directly referring to Project Veritas at the end. Seems a bit planned.

Is the Twitter gay a bottom?

Isn't it illegal to tape someone without their consent in CA? Where did this take place? Isn't this doxing and illegal somehow?

Apparently not illegal to film in a public place.

This is considered undercover reporting / investigative journalism.

But this feels unethical to me because it isn't just some standard social or work situation they're filming, it's date, and dates are loaded with romantic/sexual implications. If you have no genuine intentions in that area, this sort of thing seems fraudulent.

Poor guy, surely he's not that senior at Twitter. But the content is gold for those who don't look kindly upon the company.

Project Veritas is FOR HIRE. That's all you need to know.

And now Elon is getting metooed, which explains his recent "I'm now a Republican / expect Democrat dirty tricks against me" outburst as he tried to get ahead of the story.

It's not all we need to know. It's something we need to know and take seriously, but it's not the end of the discussion.

The video itself is extremely damning.

How exactly is it damning? That no one at Twitter likes Elon Musk?

They are doing a clearly coordinated attack against Twitter - some guy that worked there for four hours a week tried saying they were all left wing and he had been indoctrinated but he was using only words a right winger that was channeling a caricature of a left winger would use. That was the first "TwitterExposed" story, this is the second.

Guess who funds Project Vertitas? Peter Thiel, Musk's PayPal buddy and fellow billionaire.

The good news is that once Twitter sues Elon Musk, they should disable his account and kick him off the service. He will find that he has far less influence and power then, the same way Trump found out, once he can't move markets easily with random tweets.

Musk seems a bit unhinged now - must be the stress of the sex scandal, the crypto crash and the Twitter deal going tits up.

R151 How is it damning? Really?

They're admitting to censorship (hiding the truth) in order to push the "correct" agenda. He also mentioned that nobody who works there cares about the company being a success as they're all "commie as fuck." Do you think those who own the stock of a publicly traded company are happy to hear that the employees couldn't care less if the company was a success or went under?

And this has nothing to do with however many companies are going to sue Twitter for combined billions because Twitter lied for years about how many real users the site has. Nobody believes the under 5% bot line. Especially when 49% of Biden's 22 million Twitter followers were exposed as being bots this week which kind of makes one wonder about the 81 million Americans who supposedly voted for him. Is that number bullshit too?

This isn't just about Twitter. There is a whole house of cards ready to come tumbling down.

I have no real opinion of Musk one way or another but good for him for triggering what will be the downfall of Twitter and exposing of the truth at last. Not a surprise the roaches are doing their best to keep the lights turned off so their deeds and filthy stay uncovered.

R153 don't forget Tesla stock tanking!

I love weird Elon Musk fans like r154. They're so cute!

Despite Elon trying to make it seem worse, Twitter has never claimed that only five percent of their total accounts were spam/bots. What they carefully claimed in each of their legal filings was that ACTIVE daily, monetizable users, only 5% were spam/bots, by their best estimates. Note the difference between active monetizable users and "accounts".

Elon knows full well the difference but is going with the easy explanation he knows looks bad, because idiots like r154 will assume Twitter said only five percent of the users were bots or spammers.

The Twitter CEO also carefully explained (the tweets that Elon responded with a poo emoji to) that they know a lot more about who is real and who is fake and have metrics that outside people cannot determine, so some accounts that may look like bots from the outside are in fact real. That's why you can't depend on stupid obvious-smear articles like the one at r154, because they don't have access to internal Twitter data and just go by outwards appearances.

Keep making excuses for fraud, R156. Twitter is going down and so is your boy Biden. November can't come soon enough.

R157 - douchebag MAGAt incel basement-dwelling anti-vaxxer, jacking off to Joe Rogan podcasts.

Keep trying to pretend something isn't what it is, r157. You're misrepresenting what are clear, provable facts, despite your "oh I don't even like Elon!" transparent protesting. I hope you're getting paid for it at least, because if you're doing it just because you worship a scummy billionaire like Elon (who could give two shits about YOU), that is pretty pathetic.

[quote]He would be smart to find a way to pull out now.

Likewise, regarding Grimes before they procreated; but we all know how that turned out.

I's having all the babbys!

[quote]E lon Musk @elonmusk · 32m The attacks against me should be viewed through a political lens – this is their standard (despicable) playbook – but nothing will deter me from fighting for a good future and your right to free speech

The fact people take twitter this serious should be the problem. There's a similar video with a geeky Indian guy and some chick. I bet they could sue the reporters for fraud. There's nothing damming here. A company like everything in the world, has a bias. This neutrality you want doesn't exist anywhere.

‘Elongate’

R164 He's the gift that keeps on giving! Thank you, Elon. Thank you for being a hilarious nutjob.

[quote] I bet they could sue the reporters for fraud

How is it fraud?

He is good at the Twitter, you have to admit. Like someone else we know...

He's the world's biggest troll, but not in a blindly stupid way. You can tell he came out of that whole 4Chan milieu.

Is the honeypot really hawt, like way above this guy's level? I like how he mispronounced Veritas. Is it Cousin Stephen from the Madison Cawthorn threads. He seems like a demon twink.

Thanks R156. I've expressed a similar sentiment about Twitter's liability before.

Frankly they won't open themselves up to such liability by deceiving advertisers, investors, or potential purchasers. They'll instead use the trickiest language possible. And that's legal because people are expected to listen and do their homework. A concept Musk may not be familiar with but his lawyers and accountants surely are.

Frankly this really doesn't matter. I can't imagine Twitter going down in flames but I won't cry if it does. And I certainly won't cry if Musk gets screwed over by this.

The worse case scenario is that Musk gains control of a platform with Twitter's reach and uses it to spread his shitty propaganda. But even if Twitter burns and he tries to start a new one I suspect it will go the way of Parler, Truth Social and the other garbage Right-wing attempts to copy Twitter - namely, into the trash can.

All I know is: a few days after the Musk deal was announced, it was obvious some ghost filters had been removed. I was quite shocked as Twitter had kept saying "no, no, the accusations aren't true", and yet the exact same search results were shockingly different from a few days pior. So bring on nutters like Musk, because Liberals no longer believe in supporting free speech. One can trust no one of either side.

R158 trots out all the leftist buzz words like he's got Tourette's and wonders why nobody takes him seriously.

R170 Elon waited too late to start anything, like Trump. He'd end up with a platform just for his fanbois and the rest of them will be spread out on Parler, Gab, Truth Social, Mastodon, etc. Of course one will eventually rise to the top, probably, but we shall see in three years.

Elon doesn't want a place where he just gets people telling him how great he is and how his every utterance is fawned over like it's a work of genius (although he definitely enjoys that). He wants a place where he can fuck with and trigger "the libs" because that's how he gets off now that he's fully embraced his evil.

R171 Even under someone like Elon Twitter would never fully embrace "free speech" - whatever stupid version of it that he thinks is correct - because you can't at that scale.

And you are also a bit dense. The entire reason Twitter changed after Elon announced he was buying it is because all the people that had been banned, or who had stopped using Twitter because of Libruls came back. That is what happened.

There was a noticable change in the mood and fever because all the worst people had come back to Twitter to opine, and a lot of them were stupid enough to think Elon had already bought the company and was running things, not realizing that a $44 billion corporate transaction isn't like buying a used car.

There was no "magic filter change" or anything of the sort.

[quote] Twitter would never fully embrace "free speech" because you can't at that scale.

Why? Other than barring people from inciting violence, why does Twitter need to censor people at all?

Because we now live in a world where a significant proportion of people in power have recently come out of college environments where they've been taught to believe that speech can be "literal violence".

R175 here, read what the experts are saying, and not what Elon's low-information libertarianism is saying.

And here's also what Elon actually said he was planning, to investors (it's not "free speech").

Note also that TechDirt is a big "free speech" promoter and believer - they believe that content shouldn't be censored if possible, and that the way to combat misinformation is with more speech, not less speech. So they are hardly the "omg hate speech!!! Safe space! Ban everything!" crowd.

Started to read it, but too much bloviating. Can you condense the argument to the basics?

I DO think that Twitter should undo the rule that lets certain groups swarm report someone for the "crime" of misgendering and other such nonsense - there are some of their rules that are just used by certain groups to abuse others, not because the people in question actually need that much protection. They do need to dial back some of the rules. That is likely all that someone like Elon would do. It would likely drive all the Tumblr "spoons" crowd back to Tumblr, or send them to some other site (because they like posting porn).

R179, read it or don't, but if you want to understand the scenario from actual free speech legal experts, it is pretty straightforward. You can also look at Mike Masnick's tweets if you find a whole article daunting but his comments on Elon's moderation naivete are quite a ways down.

I'm baffled as to what is it that the executive says that is wrong.

Of course you are, R182. We wouldn't expect anything less.

He admits Twitter has a Left bias in terms of censorship and information flow. That's always been the contention of the Right. In contrast Twitter has publicly claimed it is not biased and is for everyone.

R184 All you have to do to see that Twitter has SOME left bias is to look at their moderation rules. The ones on misgendering and such are examples of "stolen bases" where the far left says "this is a human right and you can't debate human rights" and thus the rules reflect that viewpoint. So something that the right (and others) might want to say such as "trans women are men" gets banned because it's classed as "hate soeech" or similar. And the definition of what hate speech is has changed dramatically the past decade to include a lot more than it did before.

Given that 70% of Twitter's userbase is left wing and that Silicon Valley is left wing/libertarian, it's unsurprising that there might be some bias in the form of the rules that are set from the top down. This doesn't mean that the individual moderators are on average, biased, or not following their own rules.

However, what the right wing means when they say that there's a left wing bias is more often than not them priming the pump. The mainstream media companies and social media treat the right wing with kid gloves more often than not because of this. Facebook had to tweak their content moderation significantly to allow more right wing commentary because on average, right wingers tend to spread conspiracy theories and lie a lot more than left wingers. So their "fact based" content checking had to be relaxed a lot, and their definition of what was a fact had to be relaxed to the point of actually allowing misinformation.

Of course this just sped up Facebook's slow demise, as it now is overrun with conspiracy theories and right wing nonsense.

[quote] He admits Twitter has a Left bias in terms of censorship and information flow. That's always been the contention of the Right.

Because the right makes up shit about covid, guns, elections, gays, etc.

Is that really a bias on the left or a bias against false information?

The right peddles in hate and stigmatizing and Twitter is reacting to that.

[quote]The left peddles in hate and stigmatizing and Elon is reacting to that.

FIFY

Musk has NEVER been a supporter of free speech as he constantly blocked anyone who said anything negative about him.

This "free speech" BS only showed up when he had to come up with a reason as to why he wanted to by Twitter.

[quote] The left peddles in hate and stigmatizing and Elon is reacting to that.

Thanks, Vlad

Thankfully, Musk wont eventually buy Twitter because he can't afford it.

He's trying to get out of it now and everyone can see it,

Allowing all the right wing hate on will kill the platform

R186 it's a bias against misinformation primarily. Facebook found that our when they tried fact-checking everything. They were stopping the majority of conservative speech then.

[quote] Musk has NEVER been a supporter of free speech as he constantly blocked anyone who said anything negative about him.

One person deciding he doesn't want to hear another person denigrate him is not a rejection of free speech.

A rejection of free speech would be him demanding that the other person be banned from Twitter. He doesn't do that.

R189 Musk got pissy about Twitter because I think they made him remove a tweet and also wanted attention so he started this whole nonsense to get it. He's very Trumpian. Of course since Tesla's stock is tanking he can no longer afford it and he's trying to sow doubt about it. Twitter will end up suing him over (many) breaches of contract, and it will end up being in court for awhile. Musk has already pulled out of the deal, more or less, but this is yet another case of Rich Person's Disease where he thinks he knows more than his own lawyers, and Musk does not let anyone tell him what to do any longer, so he has that children's condition of oppositional defiance disorder now as well.

His free speech whining is just a smokescreen, same as when a few days ago he said he was "now a Republican and to expect attacks on him to escalate from Dems" when he knew this sexual harassment story was coming out.

Let us hope when they do sue, they also block his Twitter account.

R193 a better example might be Elon cancelling a Tesla car owner's order because the owner said some negative things about Tesla. Of course Elon had the right to do so even though he was reacting to the guy's perfectly valid free speech, as Tesla was a company, not the government.

But that is also why he's full of shit, because you know he would be banning accounts on Twitter and then falling behind the same excuse of "it's a private company, I can do what I want" if he had the ability. All you need to do is look and see how he handled the guy's pending and prepaid Tesla order, when the guy said he thought Tesla was not doing what they promised. THAT is free speech to Elon.

R193 Exactly!

And it's funny seeing the same people attacking Musk for blocking trolls brag constantly here on Datalounge about how many people they've blocked.

Musk has kind of fallen into the Madonna trap—he was much more successful when there was a certain mystique around him. Social media has revealed his true, toxic, narcissistic personality and he’s taking the hit for it. The more I see and hear of him, the more aversion I feel to him.

R197 I feel the same about Bette Midler and others I'm now embarrassed to admit to having been a fan of growing up.

Thank you R171 for having an adult opinion about this. You don't have to love Elon Musk to understand why he's doing what he's doing.

Just so I'm clear, it's OK when the right-wing does this shit, but when Elon gets caught sexually-harassing women or a right-winger gets caught doing anything, it's the "deep state" and "elitists" out to get them? Do I have this right?

[quote]There was no "magic filter change" or anything of the sort.

There most definitely was. Because slews of long standing accounts that had been posting regularly suddenly appeared. They'd clearly been ghosted. This wasn't a case of 'old followers coming back'. I'd guess it was woke Twitter low level admins trying to cover their tracks. Whatever occurred it was dramatic where to look and what to search. You're the dense one.

R172, aka R108, aka all the rightwing douche posts in this thread:

[quote] trots out all the leftist buzz words like he's got Tourette's and wonders why nobody takes him seriously.

R108:

[quote] The left are the least liberal people I know. They're downright fascist at this point. Unfortunately they run everything including the media, social media, education, government etc so it's near impossible to get away from their insanity.

Trots out every MAGA incel "deep state" conspiracy theory just shy of lizard people and pompously expects to be taken seriously.

Of course, according to MAGAcidal R108 - R172 and all his Rethugulous replies in this thread, this is all the fault of "the left."

Elon Musk showed off his tiny boner to "own the libs!"

You need some ranch for that word salad, 203, wow.

It's too bad a correctly structured sentence with multiple prepositional phrases confuses you, MAGAt trolletini.

But being a dumbass rightwing Trumpette, it's not surprising.

R199's "adult opinion" is "agreeing with my equally stupid opinion". Read r174 for the non-conspiracy theory version of what happened.

R201 no, there was not a magic filter change. You are just describing a false perception caused by people tweeting about the incident coupled with the return of others who had sworn off Twitter. They get retweeted, they retweet others, etc.

This is similar to when recently Facebook allegedly changed their filter and suddenly the top ten posts weren't all Ben Shapiro and other right wingers - it wasn't them changing how that was calculated, it was people talking about something else that drove the right wingers down in the rankings. Things returned to normal once the event was no longer a big deal.

Also if you are looking at latest posts, you would see what actually happened. Didn't Elon order everyone to turn off the Home feed to opt out of the filtering anyway?

Don't believe your lying eyes!

More advice from Elon on how to reduce bots

r208 = "Pretend it's the worst thing you imagine because Fox News tells you so!"

Did Elon just discover Twitter? He's posting this shit like it's not common knowledge to everyone for ages. He really does think we're all dumb as toast. (Well, r208 is)

[quote]Maybe it's just me, but if I went on a date with a guy who kept trying to talk about my work I'd think it was very odd and want to end the date quite quickly.

Did you listen to that queen? She LOVED!!!!! talking about her job. That's probably all he has going on. I wouldn't call it a Honey Pot trap, more like Here's a cracker.

They probably were on a "date" for 2 or 3 hours; the job talk that we see was only a small part of it.

And I would LOVE to see video of the rest!

Yes I want to see the full video complete with any entrapping comments by the straight honeypot suggesting he is gay and might be possibly willing to have sex at the end of the night if he has a good enough time.

R212 Yea, I'm betting it didn't get further than drinks and conversation. No "honey" unfortunately for the Twit exec.

[quote] He would be smart to find a way to pull out now.

The world would be a better place if Elon's father had pulled out one night in 1970.

I think Elon is melting down because the mother of two of his kids is now with an AGP.

Twitter is obviously deeply valuable and important. Otherwise there would be no panic about losing control over it.

R217 Huh?

Musk's ex, Grimes, who is the mother of two of his kids, is now with a man who identifies as a lesbian.

R220 What’s that say about Elon that he keeps getting involved with sexually confused weirdos?

Musk's personal life is a mess. That's the problem with Apsy dudes, cant intellectualize yourself out of it. That's not how relationships work.

He just wants to spread his genius seed to as many willing cervixes as possible.