Everyone’s getting COVID again

What alarms me is that so many people are still pretending that nothing is going on.

[quote]I can’t see my sister today because she and her kids got COVID.

Are they VAXED?

Son’s BFF also just got it from his GF.

R2

Yes, but her kids didn’t get the booster.

My in-laws, elderly and obese with other serious risk factors, couldn't ditch their masks fast enough. They're vaccinated and boosted but got COVID two weeks ago and still feel like shit. They claim they'll go back to wearing masks once they're out and about again.

I got my second booster last week.

I just got a second booster and I was the only person in the large facility. There were ten staff standing around with nothing to do.

R5

Crazy that even with the immunity we have it’s still very bad.

This virus isn’t fucking around.

R7, that was my experience too. There was no one else getting a booster when I went into the clinic.

One million dead Americans.

The virus is going to be with us for the rest of our lives so there is no point in trying to fight it. Just live and let whatever happens happen.

[quote] The relaxed guidelines and mandate removal was a mistake, just as I predicted.

At this stage getting the Omicron variant is like getting a cold, provided you’re vaccinated.

If you want to wear a hazmat suit when you go out then feel free but some people have got lives to live.

It shrins your brain R13. It's early onset dementia.

it is not like getting a cold.

R13

It’s definitely not like the cold, yet anyway.

I got covid 9 days ago and still testing positive. How long does it take for it to go away? I have a little phlegm in the morning. first 5 days were the worst. I had fever and chills. It's much worse than a cold and flu.

People get it and then they move on. End of story. Just like any seasonal cold or flu or even seasonal allergies. I'm glad no one is panicking and treating this like it's nothing, because that's what it is - nothing.

The DIFFERENCE now is that Covid is TREATABLE.

Paxlovid is keeping high-risk people out of hospitals. For the rest of us, Omicron just means a couple days of illness. But if you all want to cling to the "Covid is deadly" mindset, I can't stop you.

R19 is an ass.

Here we are two years into the "Pandemic" and I've not even heard of anyone with symptomatic Covid.

They either didn't have it or had it with NO symptoms..

It's over get on with your life.

are you supposed to stay away from your partner if both of you got covid? what if he recovers first and you're still positive? can he get if from you again?

R19

Even if it’s not as deadly, people are telling you they’re still having terrible long-term effects. It can harm everything from your blood pressure to your brain, causing major long-term health concerns and strain on our healthcare system. This should be treated as a public health crisis.

Covid will be here forever. We now have vaccines & really good treatments. Time to get on with life. I’ve had it 3 times & been left with awful altered sense of taste but I still think it’s time to crack on.

Thankfully, the UK has very much taken this approach for a few months now. I just don’t think about it anymore. Life is literally like 2019 except for a doctors visit where masks are still required..

R21, you must be living in your mommy's basement and never went anywhere. you obviously have zero friends.

yes, but you can't go to work with covid. you can go to work with a cold or flu.

[quote] At this stage getting the Omicron variant is like getting a cold, provided you’re vaccinated.

This isn't quite true, but there is an element of truth in that the severity and effects have been considerably lessened by the effects of the vaccine, as well as natural immunity for those who had it before.

As more people get one of both of those things, the ability of the virus to cause severe health issues and/or kill people is diminished.

People like r13/r19 seem to believe that those of us who continue to take Covid seriously lack lives. They must be losers and shut ins seems to be the thinking, while they're the cool kids who are just so over it and couldn't care less. Since this started, I've been all over this country, to work events, graduation parties, weddings, funerals, family reunions, etc, etc. I'll be leaving the country this summer. Life never stopped. I just did and do it all with Covid in mind. And *knock on wood* I've never had it.

My friend had her second booster, and most likely got it at a doctor's appointment. It is NOT like the flu- she has a headache so severe she can barely stand it, can't breathe and can barely get out of bed.

I just flew across country round trip and 80 percent of the pax on both flights, which were full, were not wearing masks.

The comments under the video worry me. I have a family member with a heart complication after the vaccine too, it could be fixed though but the doctors were quiet when asked what could have caused it...

My cousin in Europe got it, she had very bad headache and fatigue. Her kid brought it home from school.

Why I carry a CO2 meter with me...

I possibly escaped an infection by immediately leaving this restaurant. A person who stayed there, later tested positive.

If we want to prevent the next wave or even the next pandemic, we need to keep fighting for #SafeIndoorAir! #covidCO2

A friend got covid a couple of months ago, just 2 weeks ago, he had a seizure and his heart was beating very fast, he was taken to hospital where they did scans etc and they gave him something to normalize his heart rate. He still has to go to specialists. He's never had a seizure before in his life.

Could be covid related, who knows?

2 people I know, who don't know each other, have been diagnosed with it, near me, in the past 6 days. One has already had Covid, last year. It's very much still around in the US.

[quote]I got covid 9 days ago and still testing positive. How long does it take for it to go away? I have a little phlegm in the morning. first 5 days were the worst. I had fever and chills. It's much worse than a cold and flu.

It was worse FOR YOU, R17. Doesn't mean that's true for everyone else.

[quote]The comments under the video worry me. I have a family member with a heart complication after the vaccine too, it could be fixed though but the doctors were quiet when asked what could have caused it...

Doctors rarely if ever cop to iatrogenic illnesses.

I just had to look up "iatrogenic." Learned something new today.

Getting over it now. Vaccinated and boosted. Was very sick but paxlovid helped.

Much worse than a cold. Was coughing so much I couldn’t breathe. And I have no underlying health issues.

Glad you're on the mend, R39.

R39, are you still testing positive? how many days now? glad to hear you're recovering

I just smoke meth.

Covid doesn't seem to like meth.

How are your teeth doing, R42?

R24, wake up. That's brain damage. Your 7th cranial nerve has been affected. What will happen the next time you get it?

Thanks R40.

R41 I got a PCR test today. I’ll let you know. It has been 8 days.

If you do test positive and feel really shitty - have your PCP call in a prescription for paxlovid. My symptoms started to improve after 3 doses of it. You need to start it within 5 days of testing positive.

It’s interesting because I saw a friend for dinner and was at work 2 days before I tested positive. I had no symptoms at the time and for work, I was masked. After I tested positive, I immediately alerted work and told my friend and you would be surprised how angry some people got. I was extremely apologetic but one frau coworker still isn’t speaking to me and my friend was quite cold and I haven’t heard from her since. I’ve generally been quite careful - live in NYC and this is the first time I’ve gotten it. I wasn’t going to any gatherings - met friends for dinner once or twice a week and went to the gym once. My friend is out at bars most nights - I was surprised at her reaction.

[quote]The comments under the video worry me. I have a family member with a heart complication after the vaccine too, it could be fixed though but the doctors were quiet when asked what could have caused it...

OMG R31 and thank you for the link. A lot of people are following that man. What is he a doctor or a scientist?

[quote]I was extremely apologetic but one frau coworker still isn’t speaking to me and my friend was quite cold and I haven’t heard from her since.

Then they're no great loss.

Tell them to fuck off, from me.

[quote]A lot of people are following that man. What is he a doctor or a scientist?

Neither. He's a nurse who was awarded a doctorate for "work on developing teaching methods using digital media such as online videos."

[quote]What a disaster. I can’t see my sister today because she and her kids got COVID.

[quote]The relaxed guidelines and mandate removal was a mistake, just as I predicted.

We're everyone still wearing masks and US officials were still pleading for vaccination, COVID would still be a problem. Would you feel better about visiting you sister and her kids then? Or is everyone else supposed to stay home so been that you can travel?

COVID is not just going to dry out and blow away on your schedule, not with masks, and not even with shockingly higher higher vac rates than the US's 66%.

Portugal and Spain have very high vac rates of 91%+ and 86%+ and Spain only removed its mask mandate in a couple weeks ago, yet Portugal still has about 11,000 new cases a day and Spain about 14,000, and people are still dying. Those numbers are considered low and manageable, but vaccinations and masks didn't stop the problem completely not to an extent that it's no worry. It's considered a manageable risk because what else can be done? Everybody but OP and his sister and her un-boostered children stay at home in their masks and wait until it disappears?

*Were everyone...

R49 - gurl - is you high? or drunk?

I finally came down with it last week. Was miserable for about a couple of days and had to turn down two Grindr hookups.

[quote] R49 - gurl - is you high? or drunk?

I couldn't understand that gibberish either.

I think R49 is not a native English speaker, which is why that post makes no sense.

[quote]and had to turn down two Grindr hookups.

sorry to change the subject - but what do you do if they're gross or smelly or something?

R54 I assume most guys at least tidy up a bit before a planned encounter.

^ but the odd smelly one must slip thru the net. R52 probably doesn't care.

I turned down a grindr date as well due to covid. The guy didnt believe I caught covid and he was mad. I blocked him. Luckily , i was only positive for a few days. I had a fever just for one night. But I coughed a lot and felt quite fatigue. I am back to gym this week and feel much better. In general, It is 20% worse than a cold to me.

OP drink bleach!

[quote]I turned down a grindr date as well due to covid. The guy didnt believe I caught covid and he was mad. I blocked him

he could have turned out to be the love of your life

Five people at work tested positive in the past month. I got booster 2 last week.

[quote] But if you all want to cling to the "Covid is deadly" mindset, I can't stop you.

Speaking of brain shrinkage.

There are still millions of people who have never had Covid because they continue to do the right things and act responsibly.

[quote]But if you all want to cling to the "Covid is deadly" mindset, I can't stop you.

Stop wasting your energy. If people want to live in fear for the rest of their lives, then let them. You can't save everybody and you can't stop stupid.

We've just been through a surge in Ireland. Don't freak out. Numbers will fall again in a few weeks.

😷 [italic] Nobody Knows Nothin'Bout The Corona

[quote]There are still millions of people who have never had Covid because they continue to do the right things and act responsibly.

Go to hell.

COVID is here to stay.

🤣🤣🤣 But don't worry, it won't change your live forever.........

This twitter thread is quite concerning but I don't fully understand it. Can someone explain?

Why are you doing this to yourself R68?

You don't "fully" understand it? LOL.

not everyone! A friend took me to a Dr.'s appt an hour away. I wear a mask everywhere except when I was in the car with my friend. The next day she tested positive for Covid. I didn't get it and it's been 2 weeks. I had covid before they came out with a vaccine. I had the Johnson & Johnson one shot and I have had one booster shot.

[quote] I wear a mask everywhere except when I was in the car with my friend.

It was reckless to ride in a car with someone who you don’t live with, masked or not. It’s easy to see how people are still getting infected.

A worse variant coming in fall

[quote]This twitter thread is quite concerning but I don't fully understand it. Can someone explain?

It's a theory that vaccination renders your immune system incapable of fighting off future , more highly infectious and virulent variants (which will arise because of mass vaccination).

It's based on hypothesizing by Geert Vanden Bossche, who predicted it more than a year ago. It hasn't happened yet.

I live in a big city and virtually no mask wearing

I think Covid has been a crapshoot. They still know so little about it and what can really work. Unfortunately we may have another pandemic on the heels of this one and it will still be a crapshoot.

Anyone think a vaccine resistant variant is around the corner?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Hope to see all our covid deniers at the HermanCainAwards someday soon.

Capitalism is the main reason we aren’t taking COVID seriously. Companies truly don’t care about employees and customers. All they care about is money. They have brainwashed many to do their bidding, and have rallied to make things “go back to business”, putting us all in danger. The US is especially rancid in this regard, working against the safety of employees and the public.

I don't understand the people who spend their time on DL denying Covid is still dangerous. Enjoy your dementia, ED, and weird neurological shit fellas.

that black nasty relationship guru died because of his 💉 jab! 🤡😁🤪

Racist and an anti-vaxxer. That's not a good combination.

R73 R77 Which is why some want to live life as normally as possible now. Which might, indeed, be our future. Waves of variant viruses... like the annual "this year's flu" - which also is almost always "not addressed in this year's flu shot."

And, at this point, masks and mandates themselves wouldn't seem to stop the development of these variants. So we are at the point where everyone is making choices about how to live with it... I wear masks indoors, not outdoors. I go to music concerts and other public spaces... with masks, even though many/most don't. I wear a mask while grocery shopping, where most other shoppers are unmasked. I got my second booster yesterday.

And the world is full of everything from cray cray anti-vaxxers to germaphobe hermits who still get food delivered and wipe the mail down with anti-microbial cleansers... and everything in between. And folks will drift back and forth on that spectrum with the waves of new viruses. Fun times in the cataclysmic epoch of late-stage capitalism. I think sometime this century the machines will kill us all to save the planet.

that black nasty relationship guru dies of that covid 💉jab! 🐏😱😁🤪

I hope stephen colbert dies.

R86 Did the internet create you poisonous dullards or were you always there?

R80 I commend you for your post…The US corporate state has thrown a giant monkey wrench into our efforts to control a morbid virus just so business as usual continues.

Will there be a new hand corona variant because we constantly use the disinfection gels?

R4 If the vaccine doesn’t prevent spread, what does this have to do with anything?

R81 Livin’ in America, baby. It eventually kills you somehow.

Unfortunately, the world is not going back to Spring 2020.

Covid is here to stay and best we can do is learn about it, manage what we can, and move on with life.

What I don't like about the tone of this thread is this subtle victim shaming, virtue tolling "WHY AREN'T YOU ALL TERRIFIED" angle to Covid. The world's been terrified, it's been traumatized. People can't live in terror and trauma and be *HEALTHY* physically AND mentally.

Life has to move on.

While infection rates are up, hospitalization and death rates are not.

This is a good sign as it means that each successive variant is less lethal.

The downside is that vaccines seem to work mostly to lessen the severity of the infection--I know a number of people who are double-boosted who got it. Not severe cases, but it does make the "get vaxxed" argument harder--there needs to be an education campaign that this is not like say, the polio vaccine, where if you are vaxxed, you don't get polio.

Rates are also being severely undercounted too because people are just doing home tests and figuring that they don't need to get the PRC test.

The anti-viral drug (Pavralax or something to that effect) is supposedly now widely available too.

^^Double boosted and relatively cautious -- e.g., they figure they got it at a restaurant the required proof of vaccination

[quote]I got my second booster last week.

I got my sixth one!

R93 I sometimes wonder hun if their cases would not have been severe anyways even if unvaxxed!?

I'm not eligible for Booster 2 yet, but I know my girl at Walgreens, and they can't GIVE THEM away fast enough. I'll get it when I pick up my Truvada RX later this week. They've always had more vaccines than demand, and this is in San Francisco.

CUE the following trolls:

1) SUPERAIDS is coming 2) SUPERCOVID is coming

What a sad life. You folks are living to avoid *DEATH* not living to live.

Dr. Peter Hotez and Dr. Bob Wachter's wife currently have covid. Don Lemon has revealed that he had it "around Christmas.

More than half of the 236 million people who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 worldwide since December 2019 will experience post-COVID symptoms — more commonly known as “long COVID” — up to six months after recovering.

r97 just so you know the next pandemic that is coming will be a completely different pandemic from Covid. get back to me when it hits

the kids with the liver problems around the world.

R100 History is on your side.

However, I'm at a loss as to what you suggest we do in the meantime? Get back to me now, as I'm living in the present, not for future, hypothetical unknown and different super illnesses.

[quote]People can't live in terror and trauma and be *HEALTHY* physically AND mentally.

Because I am cautious in my behavior re: COVID does not mean I am living "in terror and trauma". Yes, I still wear a mask at the movies or when shopping. I also wear a seatbelt when I'm driving and I cross streets on the "Walk" signal. BFD

Covid-19 is a NOVEL VIRUS. The medical professionals continue to learn about the virus, same as you and I. You might want to keep in mind that it took medical professionals 200 years to understand and find a cure for polio. You might want to keep in mind that it took 20+ years to understand and discover a medication to combat AIDS. You might want to keep in mind that there is no cure for the common cold/flu.

In the meantime, my neighbor is on her third bout of Covid. My barber is on his second bout. About half the people I know have had Covid once. All are vaccinated/boostered to the eyeballs.

Me? I remain unvaccinated, unboostered and completely fine. Even though there is no longer a mask mandate, I remained masked to the eyeballs on pub transport, in enclosed spaces and around germy little kids.

[quote]I don't understand the people who spend their time on DL denying Covid is still dangerous. Enjoy your dementia, ED, and weird neurological shit fellas.

Covid is still dangerous, unless you've been vaccinated and boosted, or if you have a condition which makes you vulnerable.

Flu is also dangerous and kills hundreds of thousands each year, so we vaccinate and take precautions.

My elderly mother lives in an apartment block with 40+ flats of over 75s. During the first wave no one got Covid, in the last 4 months almost everyone has had it. No one died, not one was admitted to hospital, no one had any long term effects because they're all vaccinated and boosted. In fact most of them are having their 4th jab this month.

What IS a problem for the people in those flats is 1. cancers - 7 people have been diagnosed with cancer in the last 6 month, 2 of them picked up late because of pressures on NHS. Orthopaedic surgery has meant those with hip and knee problems are in constant pain and their immobility has increased. They can't exercise because of the pain, so can't lose the weight gained during lockdown and so can't have their operations.

It's a balance of risk, and Covid + good health + vaccinations = low risk.

Some argue it was the vaccine that caused all these new found cancers. I don't think this can be true but what do y'all think? R105

Can’t believe some of you are not taking this seriously!

The consequences can be devastating!

I finally caught it a few weeks ago and even though symptoms were light due to being vaccinated, I had to cancel several grinder hookups that week while I quarantined! I still feel pain when I think about that really hot guy who was visiting and now I’ll never get my dick sucked by him!

R106. I think anyone who believes that is either a troll or a moron.

[quote]I think anyone who believes that is either a troll or a moron.

Mostly morons in the comments on the tweet. Though I guess that should be expected when the account it's posted on can't even spell vaccine correctly.

I read the other day that there may be an increase in Parkinson's disease due to Covid. If a person lost their sense of smell and taste they are a target for Parkinson's because that is where the brain is affected for both.

R110 is this what happens when you have Parkinson's?

[quote]Covid will be here forever. We now have vaccines & really good treatments. Time to get on with life. I’ve had it 3 times & been left with awful altered sense of taste but I still think it’s time to crack on.

Yeah, let's all take the advice of a moron who got it three times.

[quote]Because I am cautious in my behavior re: COVID does not mean I am living "in terror and trauma". Yes, I still wear a mask at the movies or when shopping. I also wear a seatbelt when I'm driving and I cross streets on the "Walk" signal. BFD

I don't know you. I know nothing about you. I'm sure you're a fine person. And I'm sure you know the difference between being cautious and mindful and being "the sky is falling" with every new bit of Covid news. There is also a difference between being Covid-educated and falling for every clickbait article that comes rolling down the pike or every charlatan, clout-chasing, on social media with some new information on Covid. While I think some of the posts on here are people trolling for laughs, there are some posts on here where it seems that people are truly traumatized and scared. Their lives are probably not going to get any better and that sucks for them.

^Actually I think its a sign for people with morbid outlooks on life and this has finally given them something to latch on to for once.

There are legitimately people in this thread who believe they are going to die or have severe lifelong complications if they step out of their house without a mask. It's Spring 2022, science and reason indicate that is no longer the case.

And, yes, there are those in this thread who latch onto any new theory about possible implications of Covid - however speculatory and unfounded - like the Parkinsons poster.

It's almost mental illness, really.

From another thread about someone wanting a gay-friendly destination. The Covidiocy here is literally on the same level as the conventional Covidiot.

"I really wouldn't travel unless there is a cure for the virus. It could be dangerous for you so please be careful and rethink it! This twitter user says that this woman has found good resistance. I am not sure if it works for everyone though... Will you try it too? If you really wanna travel you should go to a summer country because corona still doesn't like warm weather. Maybe Italy with its shaved cocks?"

OP = MAAAAAARY!

R115 which woman and what resistance?

COVID-19 can cause worrying neurological symptoms like a loss of smell and taste, but Australian scientists are warning the damage the virus causes to the brain may also lead to more serious conditions such as Parkinson's disease.

It has happened before.

Five years after the Spanish flu pandemic in the 1910s, there was up to a three-fold increase in the incidence of Parkinson's disease.

They need to put em back in place.. Doing regular things brings no joy anymore anyway.

Humans are trash.

[quote]COVID-19 can cause worrying neurological symptoms like a loss of smell and taste, but Australian scientists are warning the damage the virus causes to the brain may also lead to more serious conditions such as Parkinson's disease.

What's more likely?

You get Covid and develop Parkinsons or you get strangled by your Grindr hook up because he lied about being versatile and wants to get fucked BAD?

Vaxed. Boosted. And have had it twice. Got it before there were any vaccinations and after I was boosted. Nothing much to it for me. Not masking anymore. Done with all that. You do you.

R121 Did you cough?

The overall incuriousness about the origin of this virus is baffling. I would have thought the world would demand answers and not tolerate any secrecy. But, here we are.

Meaning, don't experts want to know what we're actually dealing with?

Since Covid started, all I've gotten was congestion and post-nasal drip. I am not terribly concerned.

I had something last week where I was tired for 3 or 4 days, then had a persistent light cough where I was hacking-up phlegm. But I've had both boosters.

I think the virus is becoming vaccine resistant

The neurotics don't want it to be over.

Glandular fever is a real downer to get and has long lasting effects, but we don't hysterical about it.

The OCD neurotics are enjoying focussing on something that everyone is aware of. There's a built in audience to share and trade their neurosis with.

It's a Watercooler moment. Instead of talking about the latest TV show episode they know get off on collectively discussing covid.

Get a life.

R128, magat

[quote]The neurotics don't want it to be over.

I doubt there's a person on the planet who doesn't want this to be over. People still taking precautions don't want to get sick, and don't want vulnerable loved ones to get really sick. That's normal, not neurotic. And since this is a highly-transmissible contagion, it's normal to want everyone to continue taking precautions while the virus is still circulating at a high rate.

At some point, we've all had Covid. Some of us didn't know it, though.

I tested positive last Friday. My doctor had told me a few months ago it was no longer a case of "will I get Covid?' but now a case of "when will I get Covid"? Well, it happened. I'm double maxed with one booster. It was nearing time for my 2nd booster. I hardly see anyone wearing masks in stores, gyms, movies etc. Brace yourselves. I felt lousy for 2 days (fever, sore throat, chills, cough, fatigue) and now mainly feel exhausted. It sucks. Luckily I didn't lose my sense of taste or smell. I was proud of myself for dodging this for so long. I've been very careful but it got me.

Were you always wearing a mask when around other people, R133? Were you going to restaurants or getting together with friends? Did your doctor get covid himself?

What if you and your partner both got it, one recoverd faster, the other still testing positive...is it possible for the one who recovered to get it again from the partner?

[quote]The neurotics don't want it to be over.

Bingo.

[quote]I think the virus is becoming vaccine resistant

Typical lunacy.

[quote]I tested positive last Friday. My doctor had told me a few months ago it was no longer a case of "will I get Covid?' but now a case of "when will I get Covid"? Well, it happened. I'm double maxed with one booster. It was nearing time for my 2nd booster. I hardly see anyone wearing masks in stores, gyms, movies etc. Brace yourselves. I felt lousy for 2 days (fever, sore throat, chills, cough, fatigue) and now mainly feel exhausted. It sucks. Luckily I didn't lose my sense of taste or smell. I was proud of myself for dodging this for so long. I've been very careful but it got me.

Oh, how awful. /s

[quote]Were you always wearing a mask when around other people, [R133]? Were you going to restaurants or getting together with friends? Did your doctor get covid himself?

lol.

[Quote]Here we are two years into the "Pandemic" and I've not even heard of anyone with symptomatic Covid.

You really need to get out of your mother's basement R21.

I hate people that post Bingo.

Are they all dying?

Illness is normal, if it were a cold would you panic?

[quote]Glandular fever is a real downer to get and has long lasting effects, but we don't hysterical about it.

Glandular fever (mono) doesn't overwhelm the medical system and kill one million Americans over the course of two years.

R21 You need to crawl out of that hole you hibernate if you don't know ANYONE (which nobody believes, btw) with actual COVID symptoms. GTFOH

COVID is still a major issue. Sure the current strains aren't killing any where near as many people but 5% of people who catch COVID, and this includes people with only mild cases, go on to develop LONG COVID.

My friend in Portland has cancer and was told he didn't need Paxlovid because his case was mild. Vaxxed and boosted, got it at a medical appointment.

I know several people who died of Covid. They were not infirmed and they had symptoms.

I am so tired of all of the LIES

50% not 5% get long Covid. I hope that was a typo and not more LIES.

[quote]There are legitimately people in this thread who believe they are going to die or have severe lifelong complications if they step out of their house without a mask.

There aren't.

I don't know why you have spent so much of your time doing this, but it's just incredible to watch. Hundreds of replies and posts from you, maybe thousands, over the course of at least a year and a half, where you claim there are tons of Dataloungers falsely believing they're going to die if they go into their front yard without a mask, or some other similar (and very weird) scenario.

You always call everyone else mentally ill and I think it's because, deep down, you know you're the one who has the problem.

"Long Covid" is real but it is tricky.

Many people have symptoms/don't feel fully recovered for a few months--people have similar reactions to a bad case of bronchiits or pneumonia. But that sort of thing gets lumped together with people who have really debilitating symptoms where they are unable to function. So hard to know percentages for each.

^^I should say for anywhere from a few weeks to a few months before they feel 100% again

While I believe that long Covid is real, I do think that some are exaggerating it and some of it is just mental. There needs to be additional studies. The studies that have already taken place have left many questions, plus Covid has only been around for 2 years, not anywhere near long enough to truly study last effects.

R151 What exaggeration? It's on the rise again. I know two people who got it at a local concert last week both fully vaxxed but decided to go without a mask and caught it.

Exaggeration of long Covid, not regular Covid. And do you really think not wearing a mask was the reason why your friends caught Covid?

[quote]And do you really think not wearing a mask was the reason why your friends caught Covid?

No, they got it from the toilet seats at the concert, Rose.

R153 You REALLY should read your own post--out loud--and think on it for like...10 seconds. Then get back to us.

R122 No cough for me with Covid. If I have any kind of cough, I stay home.

[quote] A worse variant coming in fall

October 14th to be exact!

There’s also a child hepatitis outbreak that some think is linked to COVID.

[quote] The Complete List of the Pfizer Adverse Events of Special Interest Link to Wefwafwa's

Wefwafa?

A YouTube video!?

Yeah.

Don’t think so, R31.

For those saying “The comments at the link have me worried”……..Wefwafa. YouTube. They

OP, you and the other nervous nellies can continue to wear your little masks all you want, along with any other precautions you want to take. But don't think you can force everyone else to do so, this is NOT 2020!

[quote] I know two people who got it at a local concert last week both fully vaxxed but decided to go without a mask and caught it.

Going to the concert, if it was indoors, was irresponsible and was the problem.

A lot of Maga on this thread

See ya in the morgue, R160.

My niece, her husband and their 2 kids all have COVID. Ironic, as my GP just told that the disease isn't going anywhere soon.

It really varies dramatically by location. In my area, infection rates have been low but steady since late February. No spikes.

It shrinks the brain... or maybe years of GOP propaganda have shrunk everybody's brain and we're just now discovering it.

I'm 71. Maybe it's just an age thing... but I see these interchanges on social media about basic stuff (disease, virus, spread of virus) and suddenly it is a "tribal war".... on the edge of "you wear a mask, a baby diaper? You fucking SJW wokester!!"

What's the anger? Why must people be an enemy? Is it just the cover of social media, or is mass psychology and culture torched by this culture war?

It's so tiresome...

When Musk started the Twitter takeover I shut down Twitter. My days are markedly more balanced and peaceful. I suspect in a year or two I won't connect on any social media platform. Now we see through a glass darkly, then we will see face to face.

Peace.

Covid shutdowns in China are driving a worldwide shortage of IV contrast used in imaging procedures.

This thread is filled with disinformation.

Sad.

And yes, life must go on, which is why we wear masks, wash our hands often, get vaxxed and boosted.

What’s so fucking mysterious or hard about those simple steps?

[quote]And yes, life must go on, which is why we wear masks, wash our hands often, get vaxxed and boosted.

You're not the boss of me!

It seems that a the business world, and I'm talking companies full of liberal mask-wearing Democrats here in NYC, decided that if everyone were at least single or double boosted that in-person events would be okay again--and that many of those are turning into super spreader events. The upside is that most seem to be getting very mild cases, because they've been vaxxed and boosted.

[quote]Paxlovid is keeping high-risk people out of hospitals.

The nervous nellies are obsessed with Covid, they never met a restriction they didn't like. Not only would they like to see mandatory mask requirements again in every setting, but their ultimate wet dream would be to go back to the stay at home orders of 2020.

R173, please point to anyone saying that. We'll wait here while you don't find anything to back up your tinhat hysteria.

[quote] please point to anyone saying that.

Does it count if I point to r173?

[quote] I doubt there's a person on the planet who doesn't want this to be over. People still taking precautions don't want to get sick, and don't want vulnerable loved ones to get really sick. That's normal, not neurotic. And since this is a highly-transmissible contagion, it's normal to want everyone to continue taking precautions while the virus is still circulating at a high rate.

This is wrong. There were some scientists, medical professionals and political commentators who did really well from Covid. The need to provide balance and opposing views saw people take more polarised positions and the followings they got on social media means they can’t now be balanced.

Especially in the UK there is strong anti anti-lockdown segment who will always criticise the government over any decision. The most shameful one I can think of attacked the government for relaxing rules saying they wanted more people to die, then sharing photos of her at a crowded comedy event the next day.

A lot of people don’t want Covid to be over because they will lose influence and airtime.

No surprise there!

[quote]A lot of people don’t want Covid to be over because they will lose influence and airtime.

This 100%. There are a lot of people getting booked and cashing Covid checks because they have rebranded themselves as Covid-specialists.

I was just in CVS and saw two people with cloth masks on. All I could think of was, what's the fucking point. If you're going to wear a mask, at least wear the right kind of mask and in the right way.

People like OP are mentally ill. They have no lives. They’re hysterics. It gives them something to do.

Covid hysterics feel a sense of community with their fellow hysterics. Without Covid they have nothing left to bond over. They also like control and to scold. They cum at the thought of tragedy and suffering. It excites them. It gets them off. They want to be the one who have all the answers and get attention by “saving lives” with their medical expertise. They need to find psychiatrists.

Isn't it funny that everything people like R180 say is such an obvious self-reflection?

[quote] They cum at the thought of tragedy and suffering. It excites them. It gets them off. They want to be the one who have all the answers and get attention.

In other words, they're DLers.

Bill Gates says he has COVID-19, experiencing ‘mild’ symptoms

I'm not getting it because I wear my KN95 mask entering stores and my office building and subway system. Many commuters are ignoring the mandate to wear masks even though there are announcements on the platforms and in the trains. I try to keep my distance and when a train gets too crowded I either don't get on, or sometimes I get off and wait for another one.

R148 I've been recovering from Covid this last week, and bored out of isolation, hence my interest in the topic. I'm not sure where you get your stalking skills, but they suck.

According to you:

"Hundreds of replies and posts from you, maybe thousands, over the course of at least a year and a half, where you claim there are tons of Dataloungers falsely believing they're going to die if they go into their front yard without a mask, or some other similar (and very weird) scenario."

That's just flat out false. Can't take you seriously now.

Yes, OP....EVERYONE'S getting covid.

R135 Partner and I both came down with Covid this last week. I came down with symptoms about 2-3 days earlier than him. We're both fine after isolation this week.

Summarizing what his doctor said, we likely have some immunity for the next three months or so and likely longer. After some follow-up research, it seems the risk of reinfection is low for the immediate future for us, either from each other and from others.

However, I wouldn't rule out another future case of Covid in the future.

R184, sounds like you would be better off to just give up a and hide under the bed.

People with shrunken frontal lobes are stupid and lack self-control! Covid could make you all into.... Republicans!

Or, moron at R188, he could just keep doing the very simple things he's doing. Where do you idiots get this under the bed shit? Did a memo go out because you are the least original group of people since Repugs with their anti-reality talking points.

R17: IMO, we as a society, are not collectively angry enough at how this pandemic started, and holding whomever is responsible accountable.

I had Covid last month. The few days with active Covid was fine, just felt like a bad cold. The residual fatigue is, in my opinion, the worst part of Covid. I’m at week three and it’s getting better, but it’s not something to treat lightly.

It seems the virus is diluting into evermore variants, each ones of which appear to be increasingly more transmissible while also less severe. As if leading up eventually to everyone being exposed with little to no symptoms or illness -- especially if vaccinated, plus one-up on that if on top of having been previously infected already, which my doctor says is like a sort of additional layer of immunity. I think as has occurred through the decades since the advent of the annual flu vaccine and our susceptibility to its yearly variants (and our immunity gained from vaccinations against it each year, also. Fingers-crossed.

People trying to escape lockdowns in China.

A lethal variant is coming this fall

[quote]People get it and then they move on. End of story.

No, not all of them do. I know and work with people suffering from long COVID, some of whom had mild cases last year, and one of whom is 11 years-old. It has not been the "end of story" for any of them.

[quote]Here we are two years into the "Pandemic" and I've not even heard of anyone with symptomatic Covid.

Good for you. We buried a friend after he spent 4 very symptomatic days on a ventilator. Just because you personally haven't experienced something doesn't mean everyone else is lying. I've never met anyone who's been in an igloo- does that mean they don't really exist?

There have been several deaths and lots of cases in my immediate circle of family, friends, and co-workers.

My county is still sitting at about 55% fully vaccinated.

So who doesn't want it to be over?

Beyond the neurotics, all the paid talking heads (epidemiologists), power hungry bureaucrats, pharmaceutical companies is a good start.

1 million Americans haven't died from covid. Died with covid perhaps. There were people included in such figures who were assumed to have covid but weren't tested.

There might be excess deaths, but how many of those deaths are attributed directly to the virus versus related to covid policy (delayed medical visits, delayed emergency care due to resources funnelled to over the top covid measures).

Plus how many covid deaths are inevitable deaths brought forward (elderly, terminally ill) that would have died the next year or year after? Will average number of deaths flatten out over a several year period?

Beyond the greedy capitalists, all the paid blood thirsty Republicans, power starved carnival barker rubes, and dirty conservative politicians investing in pharmaceutical companies is a great start.

Fixed that for you R199. You're welcome.

[quote] we as a society, are not collectively angry enough at how this pandemic started, and holding whomever is responsible accountable.

R191 Because the nanosecond anyone "holds whomever is responsible accountable", they will infect a few people with yet another concocted in their labs virus, give 'em passports/plane tickets, and turn em lose. And you, me and everyone else will spend another two years in lockdown and dying.

Everything old is new again!

r200, you're an idiot. In fact excess mortality over the past 2+ years has exceeded 1.5 million, so a good deal more than the official COVID numbers. I love how you skewed your argument...."well they were already old so maybe they would have died next year anyway". That's not the way that excess mortality works, dumb dumb. Just because COVID hastened the ends of a lot of elderly and obese people doesn't mean that these people were supposed to die in the past years. Actuarial tables and other elements of epidemiology has a very clear idea of when and how many Americans are "supposed to die" every year, because that number is remarkably consistent. Only a deadly pandemic increases that number. Of course there were people who died because they were turned away from hospitals during the worst of COVID surges and missed doctor appointments or chemo treatments. . There have also been over 100,000 overdoses in each of the past 2 years. That doesn't alter the fact that COVID killed a million Americans. .

Nonsensw R200. Covid deaths are underreported, not overreported.

If everybody would just get their fucking vaccines like they’re supposed to, this whole thing would be a big giant nothing. It would be a small cold, and you’d be over it.

R204 I didn't say people were turned away. Excessive covid testing and risk management meant emergencies we're not tended to in a timely manner. Resources were pulled away unnecessarily which caused worse outcomes for non-covid purposes.

In the interest of 'public health' hospitals were encouraged to put a death as covid related, to overstate the problem so as to get people vaccinated.

I'd be careful with getting too many boosters honeyz!

R208 interesting article, but you mustn’t have read to the last concluding line which says “go get your booster”.

R161 No it wasn't. NOT wearing a MASK in that situation was the problem.

I just don't get the fits that are being thrown about the efficacy of masks. It makes ZERO sense. We've had the lowest flu infection rate in quite a while. Gee, I wonder why. I mean...you really have to question people's motives, intelligence, etc. with being so anti-mask.

It's scary how quickly Trump's bullshit has spread to people who you just can't believe have fallen for it.

If only she had worn a mask indoors... but the woman replying to her worries me. Is there any evidence to her claim? I take those vitamins anyways but I will probably take twice the dose from now on since I haven't received a booster yet.

OP's sister and kids qualifies as EVERYONE? All that happened is your sister and kids got Covid and then you exaggerated cuz you were upset.

r211, why do you read tweets from random people you know nothing about and then get worried about it?

If that really worried you, why wouldn't you go look up some information about it?

R211 all those comments are from liars and idiots.

Ugh I have to head to an event in Ohio this weekend, is it as bad there as it is in NYC right now? I’ll be masking.

I'm still not convinced that "long Covid" is a real thing or that it's extensive. And as for dementia from 10 years down the road we obviously no evidence of that.

It's how the neurotic keep us masked. I'm double boosted. I wear a mask on the subway and in stores or in large groups. But I am taking it off elsewhere.

Moderation, bros.

I've been to three indoor concerts in the last two months. Masks were not required but I wore mine.

[quote]I'm still not convinced that "long Covid" is a real thing or that it's extensive.

I'll alert the CDC of your skepticism.

I know it's China but nevertheless this article is still of interest.

Will be interested in what comes out on people hit by COVID two years ago in Westerns Countries notably Spain & Italy as well as New York.

Only ugly introverts want mask mandates and shelter in place. The rest of us want to live are lives.

LONG COVID: many people feel weak for several weeks on, still have occasional coughing fits, etc. This is common enough with things like bronchitis and pneumonia and eventually goes away. BUT there are other people who have debilitating symptoms for many months after. This group is smaller, but they tend to get lumped in with the first group by those who want to make it seem as if "long covid" is a much bigger problem and to draw attention and funding to it.

Even two years after their initial infection, the majority of people who were hospitalized with Covid-19 early in the pandemic had lingering symptoms, according to a new study that may be one of the longest and largest on record to follow people with long Covid.

The study, published Wednesday in The Lancet, found that 55% of patients still had at least one Covid-19 symptom two years later. That was actually an improvement from six months after infection, when 68% had symptoms.

R220 nothing is stopping you “living your life”. Masking indoors is simply a safety measure and it doesn’t harm anyone, quite the opposite. Sometimes you have to think of people such as myself who are immunocompromised. Signed, a fucking handsome introvert.

And many in the US still don’t have paid sick leave, or an inadequate amount of days. Companies have rolled back COVID policies and won’t help their employees if they get COVID, especially if they have long symptoms. And many of these workers don’t have health insurance, or have the shittiest coverage. Hospitals are overwhelmed. This is disastrous, but many still pretend that everything’s fine.

The laws specifically protect people with COVID R224.

R225

Really?

[quote]We've had the lowest flu infection rate in quite a while.

We've also had a lot of people working from home and social distancing. Masks are fine, if that's what you want, but this idea that masks alone are this magic pill is, at least to me (and I'm nobody), misleading. People love to say how they haven't had a cold or flu. Fine. But how else have you changed your life since March 2020 that may have aided in you not getting a cold or flu? The only thing that makes sense to me is the people who say their allergies aren't as bad when they wear masks. It makes sense that masks are great barriers to pollen.

Lately, in my personal life, I've seen a lot of dedicated maskers getting Covid. And they all say the same thing, "But I was so careful." Either they're all lying about being careful or there is a flaw about masks being this impenetrable shield.

[quote]And they all say the same thing, "But I was so careful."

"I was so careful ... I only took my mask off to eat in restaurants. Oh, and I didn't wear one when my family and friends came to visit, or when I had a serviceperson in to fix something. And when I'm in my cubicle at work, I take it off.

I don't understand how I could have gotten it!"

It's hilarious that we know that "neurotic", "masks aren't magic", and "must live our lives" are the main talking points on idiot Twitter without ever having gone there just by seeing the idiocy repeated on here so often.

You really need to get a life R229. You're embarrassing yourself.

R238, it's not helpful to compare people who really did catch it even though they were careful -- like essential workers -- to anti-maskers, but I notice you really like to do that.

There's some kind of compulsion with people, including those who absolutely insist that they care about other people, to blame people for catching COVID. That's not how COVID works. If you read any of the links you'd posted, you'd know that.

I'm not "blaming" anyone for getting it, I'm just saying that a lot of people who describe themselves as "careful" really aren't.

The fact that most people I know with customer-facing jobs haven't gotten the virus is a testament to masks.

^^Nonetheless, I concede it is certainly possible to be scrupulously careful and still get the virus.

I agree masks help and studies have shown they absolutely mitigate spread, but I also caught it from my partner's anti-mask anti-vax psycho co-worker even though my partner wore a mask to work constantly.

There are just a lot of people on DL who blame individuals for catching COVID, i.e. "I'm not going to trust anyone stupid enough to have COVID three times." If that's not what you were saying, then I withdraw my objection.

You do what you can do and hope for the best. Luckily, vaccines mitigate disease severity if you do get it. Get vaccinated and boosted. Wear your mask, preferably an KN95 or N95, in a public setting. If you take these precautions and you still get it, at least you know you've done the best you can, short of barricading yourself in your basement. We have to face the reality that we will be living with this virus for some time to come, and and we must employ strategies to lessen the possibility of transmission.

[quote]Isn't it funny that everything people like R 180 say is such an obvious self-reflection?

That makes absolutely no sense. I’m not here acting like Chicken Little.

[quote]a fucking handsome introvert

Pics please.

And avoid being around unmasked children too young to get vaxxed- they're walking flesh bags of infection.

Coronavirus ‘ghosts’ found lingering in the gut

Scientists are studying whether long COVID could be linked to viral fragments found in the body months after initial infection.

virus can enter via your eyes!

wash your hands and clean your surfaces.

Those that love wearing masks or even staying home as much as possible are welcome to do so. But the expectation that everyone be forced to do so is beyond ridiculous, NOT going to happen, that train has left the station! I don't wear a mask for one second longer than I have to. Even when they were required at the gym, I walked in with one on, but took it off working out.

also, at the supermarket, nobody is keeping 6 feet distance anymore....

R243 It's not May 2020 anymore.

I see a ventilator in r242's future.

N. Korea announces its 'first' outbreak.

are they vaccinated in N. Korea?

[quote] Crazy that even with the immunity we have it’s still very bad.

This is a virus to which humans don’t have natural immunity. It should kill you an alarmingly high percentage of the time. With the vaccines and boosters, it’s much less likely to kill you. But that doesn’t mean it won’t still fuck you up.

Hospitals are taking a beating staffing wise since so many docs, nurses, etc. are out sick. My hospital is offering pretty generous bonuses to RNs to work additional shifts.

[quote]Those that love wearing masks

No one, NO ONE has expressed a *love* for wearing masks.

I'm not deliberately overcautious. I only wear masks when absolutely required, which isn't much these days. No one in my household has been vaccinated. None of us have had COVID yet.

[quote]It should kill you an alarmingly high percentage of the time.

What does this mean?

Did they really call it a Covid battle for Kelly? Jesus Christ.🙄

You battle cancer. Let's tone it down a bit.

Would someone PLEASE think of the trans sexworkers of color who are KNOWN to suffer from healthcare disparities and don’t have access to vaccines and boosters. You’re LITERALLY killing them if you don’t mask up everywhere EVERY day.

And, there’s the anti-trans troll trying to hijack another thread and turn it into a hate thread.

R256 is the virus transgender because it mutates?

The trans started Covid.

I have no proof but I know they did because they are responsible for all the evil in this world and are truly Agents of Satan

my friend got covid. he's boosted. he is still positive after 9 days. it's not just a cold.

So, for example, Marsha P. Johnson, a brave an courageous trans woman of color who is largely responsible for the civil rights that gay people now enjoy and take for granted, is evil and one of satan's agents?!?! How can you even say something so offensive? Pig!

There are many people who say they aren't going to get the booster. I am scared...

I don't know about everyone. I work in two local community hospitals and the COVID cases are in the low to mid single digits per day, deaths usually only with extreme comorbidities. Employees here in LA County still must mask at work and everyone complies as is the law. Outside of work, indoors and out, not many are masking. Most people I know (with a few exceptions) are vaccinated. I have had my 2nd booster and don't mask indoors at reasonably sized events but feel safer outside. We don't go out that much anyway but we have been going to some things unmasked.

Not "everyone" is getting it - or again. A few people are.

It is true, you don't want it. But the vaccines work and if you're high risk or uncomfortable, you can certainly mask and social distance.

I'm ugly with an asymmetrical face that shows an obvious testosterone deficiency issue. I used to be self-conscious just to leave my apartment. COVID has been a godsend, as I now wear masks wherever I go, even strolling down the street. COVID has given me self-confidence, and I am going to make sure it never ends.

R263, that about sums up a lot of the mask lovers.

Will they be approving the second vaccine for people in their 30s/40s?

No, just for people in their 20's.

Marsha P Johnson didn’t identify as Trans, you revisionist.

Darling, you're no one if you haven't had the coof.

[quote]Darling, you're no one if you haven't had the coof.

Some of us prefer to continue to act responsibility and never get it.

Our state epidemiologist said being fully vaxxed does not prevent getting the new variants of covid but it does lessen the severity of the symptoms.

To the poster upthread who was asking how long he will test positive after having covid do not have another PCR test for at least 90 days. Stick with antigen tests.

In Washington DC covid related hospitalizations are creeping up again which is related to the spike of a few weeks ago. But deaths are holding steady.

R246 Their first? SURE.

R263 That about sums up the "Logic" of anti-maskers. That and calling for "Marshall" law.

I thought that was Marcia Law.

[quote]Our state epidemiologist said being fully vaxxed does not prevent getting the new variants of covid but it does lessen the severity of the symptoms.

You needed your state epidemiologist to tell you that? Have you just ignored every report on the vaccines since they came out last year?

[quote]Some of us prefer to continue to act responsibility and never get it.

Acting responsibly doesn't mean acting smug and above it all. This is why you have no friends.

Nervous nellies so badly want us to still be living like it's 2020 with all the restrictions etc. Sorry, but life goes on!

R276 forgot the "...a troll" in his signature.

There are just some trolls in here from Vlad/Dumpland that go to every fucking Covid thread to spew their verbal throat diarrhea. Mind your own fucking business cunt fucks! You don't wanna wear a fucking mask don't wear one, you don't want to get vaccinated don't, you don't mind getting Covid then go fucking get it. It's not any of your goddamn business what the rest of us choose to do. It says something about these scumbags that they feel the need to confront anyone who dares do whatever the fuck they feel is best for themselves. Why the fuck does it bother you so much? And why the need to make up bullshit reasons why the rest of us do whatever the fuck we want. Now go on and get ready for your weekly loser rally. Be gone.

They do it specifically to trigger posts like yours, R278.

r278, why are you so angry, dearie? Breathe. Exhale, hon. It's going to be alright.

She needs to take her mask off. She can't breathe!

Or maybe she needs to move out of Trumplandia. Out on the coasts no one gives AF if you want to wear your mask or not.

The ugly and unfuckable are enjoying the hell out of COVID and are going to milk it to the bitter, bitter end. They're not about to give up the newly found self-confidence via masks without a struggle. This is their moment, but they're making it difficult for us attractive people.

R263 I feel so too because I think I look like a gorilla

I'm disgusting to look at too. I think there's no safe place for anyone to rest their eyes. Now when kids on the street point to me and laugh, I know it's because of the mask, which I can psychologically handle, and not because of my odd-looking face. Masks forever!

Cans somebody who TESTED positive please describe the onset of symptoms very specifically please.

Asking for a friend.

Kelly Rippa is so striking looking. Can you imagine her working in real estate or as a housewife? She has always had the it factor and I guess she just had the confidence to make a go at “hollywood”.

R285 It depends on each person. Common flu/cold like symptoms.

Partner and I had horrific colds in April that lasted two weeks.

Tested positive for Covid 10 days again with similar symptoms, which was strange given our having just recovered, and sure enough it was Covid.

Only difference for me was a horrific headache that would not go away with any level of OTC painkillers.

"... NO ONE has expressed a *love* for wearing masks."

There were people who were going to try and use mask-wearing as a tool to get fellow employees in trouble. Or fired.

They lost that ability.

R286 She's a twunt dear.

R287. so were your "colds" in April covid? did you test positive then?

My friend was vaxed but not boosted, she had slight headache, fever which would come down with advil but the low grade fever lasted for 4 days, muscle ache (around the shoulder area). runny nose, sneezing sometimes, fatigue, cough with phlegm. she felt better after 1 week but didn't test negative until day 10

another friend was boosted. He didn't have fever, muscle ache, a little fatigue (the first few days), sneezing, runny nose, coughing for 2 weeks. he's in his 50s healthy.

"Just last week, the FDA restricted the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine due to 60 cases of a blood-clotting syndrome and nine deaths among nearly 19 million doses. That is a 1-in-300,000 chance of the blood-clotting syndrome and a 1-in-2-million risk of death.

Similarly, the risk of myocarditis in young adult males from the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines — the cause of much alarm — is about 1 in 15,000 and 1 in 4,000, respectively.

But (there is) a 1-in-33 chance (or a 3 percent rate of long covid) of brain fog, debilitating fatigue, shortness of breath or any of the other serious post-covid symptoms."

Aww, 293 mask on sweetie!

The North Koreans are finally getting it and it’s an “explosion” of “grave proportions.” Good. I hope it wipes out the Pyongyang elite.

R285 I first had a sore throat and felt extremely tired within about 48 hours of exposure. My whole body felt achy…there is a typical virus feeling I just just “felt like crap.” I knew it was Covid. I tested every few days out of curiosity and by day I5 finally tested negative.

I have somehow managed to avoid getting it so far but I'm quite terrified I eventually will. Long covid sounds awful and the brain fog people report is a killer for my job.

Terrified? Really? It's not March 2020.

R298. Did long covid stop being a thing after 2020?

News to me.

Keep the symptoms onset coming. Obviously there will be some slight differences but this is the part I never hear about on the news. Detailed reports of symptoms onset and duration. The more detailed the better.

It would be helpful if Fauci would include these detailed anecdotes from patients. I also think it will help the community be able to pay more attention to specific symptoms. These people need to stay home. Do not go out, even with a mask if you have these symptoms.

Just saw on my local news one of the elementary schools went to remote learning because too many teachers tested positive and with symptoms too.

Wtf this again??

There are way too many people out here, especially at grocery stores of all places, sneezing and coughing all over and it’s so disgusting and unsanitary.

I had somebody stand in line behind me sniffing for 5 minutes straight. So gross.

R287 Here. Wrote that on my phone.

Partner and I's April colds were not Covid. That's why when our Covid symptoms appeared just weeks later we weren't surprised.

The really really bad headache for me was the worst.

The evil that Trump does lives on.

Exactly. Remember when there was one patient in the US? To be fair, the mopheaded doofus blew it for the UK as well. It’s usually those two countries that spearhead the international response to epidemics.

The sad thing as that as republicans they both blew it and millions died because of it. Blame the third world if you want but they didn’t stop MERS or SARS, the us and the Uk did.

What a mess. May they pay some price for doing this all on purpose.

Good! The more the infection rate rises, the more the probability of mask mandates and shelter in place. I'm orgasmic at the thought of never having to reveal my ugly face and even more so at the thought of being forced to stay indoors. Bring on the mandates and restrictions! My time has finally arrived, and I AN NOT going to let it go without a struggle.

R285 : Wicked headache, very sore throat, GI symptoms--these symptoms started the day after I was exposed. Exhaustion for 2 weeks, fever and chills Day 3 and 4, body aches, chest pain, low oximeter reading Day 3. I tested positive 3 days after exposure ( a friend had a fever and didn't tell me.) Felt better Day 5-7 but then GI, cough, exhaustion and headache returned. No loss of smell, but I smelled things that weren't there. Ex: I thought food was burning and it wasn't. Glad that's gone Strong positive test for 2 weeks. It's been a month since I was negative, but I still have a residual cough.

I got it worse than others, but thanks to the vaccines, I was not hospitalized. The main thing with other friends who got it was the really bad headache, the raw throat, and the exhaustion. In order to get Paxlovid or monoclonals, you must begin taking them by Day 5. A friend was eligible and took Paxlovid. She cleared the virus in a week, rather than 2, and does not have a residual cough.

We all just need to come to terms with the fact that Covid is now part of our lives, but we don't need to let it control our lives. It is just something we have to live with, like the flu. NO need to make a big production out of it every few days. Those that choose to just need professional help to deal with this.

I agree with r309. COVID is never going away. More and more variants will come, hopefully those that don't attack the lungs. We can't continue to cower in fear and not interact with people and not get back to a sense of normalcy without it dominating our lives. It's just not sustainable over the long term. Take the precautions that make you feel safer, whether it's wearing a mask or getting vaccinated, and if you get it, it will likely be no more than the flu. Yes, people will die, but many people die every year or have long-term complications, but we don't shut down the world for that.

R309, you do understand that that was the goal before crazy anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers decided to not follow any science and just said fuck it. We would be in a place to do what you say if they had done what normal people do but they couldn't be bothered because they are giant toddlers. So, no, we are not actually in a place to act that way now. Cases are skyrocketing and hospitalizations and deaths will follow. Right now, the most vulnerable are boosted up the wazoo. That will not continue indefinitely. The Fall wave, fully the fault of the antimasking/antivaxxing pieces of shit, will kill infect, disable, and kill a huge number of people.

[quote]It is just something we have to live with, like the flu

It's not like the flu, at least not yet. The flu is a lot easier NOT to get; this thing is extremely transmissible. I don't understand the attitude out there of mocking those who don't have a defeatist attitude and are trying to avoid a virus that has confounded medical science and that may have been made in a lab, or, at best, came from a bat and wreaks unpredictable havoc on human beings. No thanks. I'll continue to social distance and avoid crowds, etc. until this is all better understood. Many doctors and scientists do not think it's inevitable that everyone will get COVID, and I believe them.

To clarify, my point is...it's understandable that people are still trying to avoid this thing. I didn't mean that everyone can, just that it's rational to at least try. As I said, this is a virus that is confounding medical science. What's irrational or cowardly about hoping to avoid it?

R309, did you read the post at R308? Just curious.

My mother lost 3 close friends and my beloved therapist died during the first wave of Covid. My therapist spent 7 weeks in ICU. My best friend lost her father in law to COVID and her husband was hospitalized for two weeks. He is in his early forties. Her brother brought Omicron to his whole family, wife and 4 children. They all got it. Varying degrees of sickness. All recovered. As far as we know...

Since Omicron - one of my best friends who is a healthy sexy gym going gay man in his late 40s has been off work for a month, with much the same symptoms that R308 describes. He was completely compliant until restrictions lifted. Then he stopped wearing masks at the gym and dined out more. Omicron. He got sick, sick. No hospital, but he was so relaxed her didn't even have any home tests. Then after two weeks - he thought he was almost better, but he isn't yet. He went back to work after testing negative and lasted a day and a half. So he went to Palm Springs for 2 weeks. He's back home again, still tired and coughing. Working half days. He's fucking freaked out. Gay men don't like being inconvenienced for so long.

My cleaning lady - who is a healthy non neurotic horse of a woman - got Covid about 5 weeks ago. She is feeling much better, but not all better. She told me she could feel it invading many parts of her body and that was nothing like a normal cold or flu virus. She is not given to hyperbole. She had fevers, extreme tiredness, a crushing headache that lasted for a few weeks and continual G.I. symptoms. Brain fog, sinus and ear pain. Not too many body aches for her, but she was beyond exhausted. We do have to live with it, but it's not some ordinary FLU.

Yes many are asymptomatic and others have a few days of feeling stuffed up and tired. But it is not the fucking FLU.

I wish you a continued and full recovery R308. You'll get there. It's good to look on the bright side. My best thoughts are with you.

Dying is not the worst thing that can happen to people. Long Covid is real. And long term complications are even more common.

^MARY! x1,000

The only person I know who died from Covid wouldn't get the vaccine and she got what she deserved. Everyone else who has gotten it post vaccine have had something akin to an upper respiratory infection. Some didn't have an easy time, most got over it with no problem. Covid is not a death sentence, and for most people it is a short term inconvenience.

What a sad example of humanity you are, R315. Your life's chance of being loved or caring about others must have been lost to you long ago. Good luck. I'm glad you have the internet. Everyone needs to feel connected.🙏🏾

my cousin in the UK got it 2 months ago. massive headache and fatigue and runny nose...never lost sense of smell or taste.

R309, I would be fine with treating it like the flu if it wasn't for the prospect of long Covid. That's the thing that scares me because I've heard it can make you so exhausted you can barely function or even think straight.

I've never heard of the flu doing that to someone.

And yet, your friend who got Covid either is asymptomatic or has mild cold symptoms. Yeah, not just a cold.

I wear a N95 with a surgical mask on top of it and a bandana on top of THAT. I know three layers sounds redundant but I care about societies most vulnerable, it’s not for my own well being. I can’t breath very well with it on so it has hampered my ability to exercise, but I don’t need to look good because i’m not in public. NO ONE should be in public. They should shut down mass transit as far as I’m concerned, and close the highways for all except delivery trucks and ambulances.

R320 How many people are in ICU or dead because of a cold?

[quote]The only person I know who died from Covid wouldn't get the vaccine and she got what she deserved. Everyone else who has gotten it post vaccine have had something akin to an upper respiratory infection.

In January and February, amid the Omicron surge, more than 40% of Covid-19 deaths were among vaccinated people.

I just got my fourth shot and have been sleeping for 24 hours. Lady in the pharmacy said numbers are picking up, again.

Isn't there a common sense middle ground between throwing caution to the wind and giving in to hysteria?

^^^ no

I just notice the patchy baldness of recovered covid cases and say no thanks. They look terrible. Same reason I quit smoking. Vanity

I'm off to the gym where I plan to work out maskless and enjoy a post-workout fuck (or two) in the sauna or showers maskless. I'll then be heading to market to pick up some produce maskless. Later on, I'll need to decide which one of my grind admirers to hook up with this evening maskless. Enjoy your moldy basements and chin diapers. Let's reserve life for that who actually actually want to live it fully. After all, life is a banquet.

And if you stopped eating everything off the buffet, you wouldn't have to go to the gym.

R329 I hope you're also not going condom-less. Who knows what kind of diseases you're picking up.

r331, no I don't use a condom, but I'm on PrEP, so I am DDF. I don't think I've used a condom since Obama's first term in office lol, and even then I was not 100% compliant I must admit. Honestly, I don't know anyone who uses a condom anymore. Certainly, no one in my circle of friends does.

[quote] I'm on PrEP, so I am DDF

My sides!

R332. Well that really says it all doesn't it.

Hopefully you have a laundry list of vaccines, starting with HPV.

I wonder what the Venn diagram is for people who refuse to wear masks and those who practice less-than-safe sex?

In all fairness R334, when was the last time you saw a condom.

Guys still use condoms with Prep?

I work in a pathology so I can’t afford to get ill. I go to football games regularly and we’re the only ones masked.

On the plus side, we were the only one in our group of seats who didn’t get Covid last month.

R321, you are a deranged loon!

R321, you should just wear N95 and a face shield. you need to protect your eyes.

It definitely entered via my left eye which is why I had severe conjunctivitis in just that eye along with all my other Covid symptoms (chest tightening, heart palpitations, on and off fever, weird headaches and heightened tinnitus). This was back in April 2020.

This is all the republicans fault.

R340, glad you're OK now.

It's no joke. Not a mandate. Just do it.

[quote] 6 weeks ago my previously healthy son tested positive for Covid. He picked it up at school even though he wore a mask

Did she have a security camera pointed at his face every second of the day at his school in Manitoba? How could she possibly know that there were no times, ever, that he had his mask off?

I don't think we gonna convince anti vaxxers to get the vaccine anymore. Even their healthers haven't stopped arguing against them... sad

OP did they die?

Okay then, fuck you. They got a cold and got over it.

Next?

Fuck you, R345.

Everybody across the planet needs to be welded into their homes until this thing goes away.

The homeless could be welded into hotels and motels.

Sorry R345, that "Fuck You" was meant for R346 and his "It just a cold" bullshit.

r340, I got blepharitis from COVID and it never went away. This was summer of 2020, back when people were still just figuring out that COVID could cause "pinkeye." I hope the conjunctivitis didn't stick around.

"Initially, public health officials believed that only a small minority of people would suffer from long COVID-19. But some studies now indicate a majority of those infected with the coronavirus are experiencing long COVID-19 symptoms.

What makes long COVID-19 unique is its occurrence in those who had mild cases."

R351. Absolutely chilling.

Is that lady implying that Covid gave her kid Type 1 Diabetes?

So, according to The Hill, approximately 1/3 of those who become ill enough for doctors to monitor developed [italic]extended [/italic]covid symptoms - lasting a few months; and another 1/6 of those who become ill developed true “long covid” symptoms that last between six months and forever.

Wearing masks in enclosed common areas makes sense when the COVID infection rates are high. KN95 and N95 are significantly more effective than basic cloth masks which is what most people seam to be wearing. Also masks works better in preventing the transmission of the virus from an infected person than it does in preventing infection to a masked person.

R354. About a 15% chance if infected to get a potentially lifelong debilitating illness? I'm not keen on those odds.

Even six months of it sounds shitty enough.

[quote]Is that lady implying that Covid gave her kid Type 1 Diabetes?

"Evidence of increased pediatric type 1 diabetes has been reported during the COVID-19 pandemic. Among persons aged <18 years with COVID-19 and new diabetes diagnoses in this study, nearly one half had diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) at or around the time of diagnosis."

Do enjoy your banquet R329

-Long Covid

If they had just kept everyone locked down (and a real lock down) this would be over by now.

Lockdowns forever!

[quote]If they had just kept everyone locked down (and a real lock down) this would be over by now.

Gurl.

Agree R356. Just putting the article in perspective.

That’s also why, when I do go out for dinner, I look for well ventilated places, preferably near an open window or outdoors.

So no “fancy restaurant” meals for the past two years.

R354

R359, I'm not sure the evidence supports that.

But I do think people need to be doing the basic things to prevent infection. Wearing masks around strangers, washing hands for 20 seconds, social distancing around strangers, staying home if you aren't well, etc. All the minor changes to people's lives that are doable but aren't done because people are complacent (or in the case of staying home, because jobs are shit).

If people want to work from home and leave the house less often, I think that's also a valid approach.

These things should just be common sense.

R350, the conjunctivitis in my left eye stuck around for at least a month after I was infected but I gather that was relatively normal.

You long-COVID loosers must be outlyers (our outright lying lmao). I know a ton a people who had covid, and none a them got so-called long-covid. They got a cold or a little flu, lasted a few days, and that was it, and they moved on with there lives. The long-covid people seem to be overly dramatic in the first place, so I gotta wonder if the symptoms are may be all in there head. I think it's a valid question.

R365. All in their head?

That's some level of denial there.

People like R309 NEVER seem to consider the true cost of COVID-19 that goes way beyond the number of people who actually died of it.

Case A: In 2020 my first cousin (I'll call her "C") lost her mother and her baby sister ("T") to COVID-19. "T" (who got the virus from her job as social worker in a prison) left two minor daughters, both of whom have been going through hell since then; "C" has had to step up and parent those two teen girls, in addition to doing with Trumpy/Q/antivax coworkers, patients ("C" is a surgical RN), and their families. "C" ended up taking early retirement last August...and her hospital STILL()hasn't been able to fill her position. Plus they've lost dozens more nurses since then. Who suffers? Patients.

See the unintended consequences, R309?

Case B: My uncle "H" (my Dad's last living sibling) lost his son "W" in January 2020, and his baby daughter "R" in September 2020. Both to COVID-19. "R"'s journey to death was particularly gruesome and drawn out. My Dad and Uncle "H" spoke regularly. Just before "R" died, Uncle H was spry and totally with it. One month after R died, Uncle H developed dementia that ran him down quickly. He died right after Christmas 2021. Oh, one more tragedy of unintended consequences: R's young grandson was so devastated by her death, he started using drugs and exact one year after R died, that grandson in a drug-fueled rage, shot and killed his two first cousins, and severely wounded his uncle.

See the unintended consequences of our handling of COVID-19, R309?

And there are many, many more COVID tragedies and deaths unaccounted for in this fucked up country. It is fucking exhausting.

Aren't both cases stated in R367 before the vaccine? The early days of Covid weren't great and scary, but we've moved past that.

There appears to be some restriction lovers on this thread that would love to see Chinese style restrictions here. Well, you can dream, but NOT going to happen!

Hospitals are very overwhelmed. My grandma had a stroke a couple weeks ago and couldn’t go to her main hospital because there were no beds available. And the one she was sent to was also almost out. This is a real crisis that people don’t want to acknowledge.

R357 If the virus effects the pancreas, then yes persons still in their formative years would be more susceptible to resulting with Diabetes type 1.

What state is she in, R370? I'm hoping the vaxxed states will hold up better than that but who knows at this point.

It's really just a cold at this point though, right? Unless you are seriously immunocompromised. I haven't heard that normal people were being hospitalized for it still.

There are zero reports about overcrowded hospitals. R370 is suspect.

Southeast Michigan is experiencing another covid wave:

"Seven hospitals were at 100% capacity. They included Bronson South Haven, Detroit Medical Center’s Harper University/Hutzel Women’s hospitals, Lake Huron Medical Center in Port Huron, McKenzie Health System in Sandusky, ProMedica Coldwater Regional Hospital, ProMedica CV Hickman Hospital in Adrian and Sinai Grace Hospital in Detroit.

Hurley Medical Center in Flint was at 99% capacity and five other hospitals were at 95% or greater."

Oh Southeast Michigan.

Infection numbers are now higher than summer of 2020. People are all saying they are over it, but what will that mean if another couple hundred thousand people die in the summer and winter. The surges before were limited by masking and vaccines, but now there are few masks and waning vaccines. Meanwhile, everyone acts like it’s January 2020.

The summer of 2020 didn't have vaccines. Just stop it R377.

Colbert was off for two weeks with Covid and the day of his scheduled return, they announced he had a recurrence. Obama, Hillary and Pelosi announce they have COVID - mild symptoms, and we hear no more. Doesn't tell you how they really experienced it.

Take heart that Patti LuPone finally got Covid, missed 10 performances and is back BELTING out The Ladies Who Lunch every night on Broadway! And screaming at audience members to pull UP their masks! Patti is 72.

Covid is not over. But it's a roll of the dice as to how sick you'll get, how many times you'll catch it and if you will become a long covid casualty. Anyone with a brain and who's done any reading or research knows that COVID is far more than a cold or flu. It can affect your organs for life - even if your "symptoms" were mild. Long Covid is no joke. In fact it's shedding light on other chronic post viral syndromes that people have suffered from for the last 40 years. Except the number of Long Covid cases will be in the millions.

[quote] You long-COVID[bold] loosers [/bold]must be outlyers (our outright lying lmao). I know a ton a people who had covid, and none a them got so-called long-covid. They got a cold or a little flu, lasted a few days, and that was it, and they moved on with [bold]there [/bold]lives. The long-covid people seem to be overly dramatic in the first place, so I gotta wonder if the symptoms are may be all in [bold]there [/bold]head. [bold]I think it's a valid question.[/bold]

Based on your post, R365, you bring into question the whole concept of your perceptions of “validity”. There is little to give credence to your screed.

Yes, Long Covid exists. Perhaps you could follow physicians as they attend to MANY patients with the conditions of post-Covid infection. It’s very real and some of the syndrome maladies are significant: paralyzed states from neuropathy, psychosis, diabetes, liver damage, neuropathies, cardiac damage and skin abnormalities to name just a few. These are frustrating for patients and doctors alike.

It may be hard to comprehend from your (limited) standpoint, but just because you have not encountered Long Covid does not mean it does NOT exist.

PS: Science and education are helpful. Perhaps you could partake of both.

R374

I hope no one I know is on here. But here’s proof. Her hospital is Little Company of Mary in Torrance, and they would not take her because of lack of beds.

[quote]Oh Southeast Michigan.

Ford Motor Co., General Motors and Jeep maker Stellantis NV are reimplementing a mask mandate starting Monday at their facilities in Michigan counties that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have labeled as "high" risk for COVID-19 infection.

America has spoken when it comes to mask mandates--they're over it. Masks were about making sure the healthcare system did not collapse with covid hospitalizations. Even in cities like LA, mask usage is under 5% now. Some business require their employees to wear them and when they do, its performative (meaning they use 1 mask per day which is ineffective and keep it under the nose).

The spread of covid is also rampant right now but the government is tracking less than 1000 cases per day. Nobody is reporting their infections. Those who are responsible enough (or required to test) are probably staying home from work.

When the healthcare system's limits get tested, masking will happen again. It seems the new medical protocols are working. The vaccines are working. This is a good thing.

If you have severe health issues, wear a mask and continue distancing. Take extra precautions while travelling. And use common sense--stay out of packed movie theaters, etc.

If a bottom's salad is being tossed by a grindr top, who then puts the man on all fours and plows him mercilessly from behind, while said bottom wears a mask the entire time, is that safe? No kissing is involved. Asking for a friend. TIA.

So will this affect the opening numbers for Top Gun: Maverick?

R183, the government is tracking 90,000 cases a day not 1,000. You seem deep in fantastical conjecture, so don’t let reality trouble your thought process.

Tossing his salad and Grindr - what century are we in?

I stopped wearing a mask 3 weeks ago and I’m still fine bitches! I got the original two-part vaccine last year and that’s it - never got a booster and not going to.

I take my vitamins every day and that’s the most prevention I’m doing now.

[quote]If a bottom's salad is being tossed by a grindr top, who then puts the man on all fours and plows him mercilessly from behind, while said bottom wears a mask the entire time, is that safe?

The virus is present in fecal material. Assuming the bottom farts at least once in your face, the virus could be aerosolized and inhaled into the nose and throat.

Cases here have almost doubled in the last three weeks. Hospitalizations and ICU admissions are up a bit, while deaths are about the same.

Deaths take about 3 weeks longer to show up.

What in the fuck was Biden doing predicting 100 million infections this coming fall/winter?

That's not exactly a science table modelling.

Truth is that not enough Americans got booster shots and nowhere near enough children were vaccinated at all.

Canada has about a 86% rate of at least 2 dose vaccinations for the population of fives years and up. And over 60% with one or two boosters. For ages 12 and up, 92% of the population is fully vaccinated.

I wish they'd stop pushing the shots as the only way out of this, or at least to mitigate things. The fact is that people who have refused to get shots by this point will never get them, and no amount of pleading from the government will change their minds.

We need to make sure we have enough meds to go around to treat it. They should be easy to get and everywhere by now.

R200, that still means that 99.6 percent of the US population DIDN'T die from Covid.

R393 I realize some of the anti-vaxxers are just plain idiots but there are people who are waiting for a vaccine that didn't use brand-new technology like mRNA. The FDA has said that will decide whether Novavax will be approved in the US in their June meeting.

Novavax uses traditional vaccine technology and has efficacy that's very high, particularly against Omictron.

I've already been vaccinated and boostered with Janssen but if I get another booster I'd like to get Novavax next time.

That's awesome, R396 . My friend is in the Novavax trial. He took care of his wife, who got covid a few months after getting her booster, and never got sick. He 's never gotten covid.

R393, let me guess, what you would like is mandatory mask wearing everywhere and maybe even lockdown orders. Sorry, NOT going to happen!

to the poster up thread who thinks a total lockdown would get rid of the virus-- Just look at China dumb cunt! They still have it!

The only way to get rid of the virus is to accept that it is now part of us. Let it run it's course through its various variants, which consistently get weaker, and stop hiding from it and allow the vaccines plus herd immunity to do its thing. End of story.

You are assuming variants will continue to get weaker. That is not a given, they could get stronger or have serious long term side effects, which many of the more recent variants do have.

We should have contained this when one person had it.

Gaetan Dugas should never have put that EEL up his ASS! I hate him. Patient Zero.

95 masks are still being given away (3 at a time) from most major drug stores. These masks are 10X more effective than all the others. But you have to ask for them. Otherwise order them from Amazon. Youtube will tell you how to put them on. Takes 2 seconds once you figure it out. Also take vitamin D. Dr. Fauci says he takes 6,000 units a day. That's actually too high. Go for 5K or 4K. Now good news/bad news. If your blood type is O your resistance to covid is greatly improved. (Feds won't tell you this because too many people might become depressed)

My husband has long covid, and it hasn't been easy on me. He has no interest in sex. I have a very high sex drive, and JO just isn't cutting it. I'm thinking about cheating. He wouldn't go for an open marriage, not his thing. I've already started a grindr profile ISO tops and have been browsing the escort ads in my area, and I've begun a regimen of PrEP. I can't wait to feel a dick inside me again.

Dr Eric Topol's (Scripps) recent substack is an important read. He's a data guy, and I've never found him to be politically motivated or hysterical, but it's not pretty.

Eric Topol is one of those guys who is cashing in from Covid. They gin up hysteria to keep the checks coming.

Topol may or not come from a place of hysteria. Whether or not his predictions are accurate, the fact is that people cannot live day after day with his sort of sustained doom and gloom. It's not psychologically possible or healthy. There comes a point where you just have to mentally accept that whatever will be will be, mitigate your risk for severe outcomes as best you can by getting boosted and wearing a mask, and get on with life. With two years into this and no end in sight, what else can we do?

R408, strange how humans have changed so drastically in only the last 60-80 years. WWII era people weren't a bunch of giant whiny toddlers, though, so...

Many of the COVID tests are now done at home and not reported, so it is obvious that the current rates are greatly under counted. My approach is that for now I will continue to wear my KN95 mask in stores on public transportation and entering and exiting my office building. When I'm confident the rates are significantly lower I will then stop wearing them.

r409, I see your point, but during WWII, Americans weren't asked to deprive themselves of basic human contact. Plus the war was not fought in the US.

We are currently living through Covid fatigue and it appears that some people on here are contributing to it.

I started going back to the gym four months ago. I go almost every day, and I wear an N95 mask there religiously. It can be brutal, but I've gotten used to lifting weights with it. When I started back, there were a few regular mask wearers besides me. Lately, I'm the only person wearing one, and I definitely get stares, as if I stepped off the set of "Contagion."

[quote]I see your point, but during WWII, Americans weren't asked to deprive themselves of basic human contact. Plus the war was not fought in the US.

Who is being asked to deprive themselves of all human contact? Literally, just get vaccinated and wear a mask when in a public place around other people. Unless there is some need to lick strangers, I'm not sure what human contact people are being deprived of.

That this is taking place in our own country should have meant a greater interest in protecting your community and neighbors which is exactly what would have happened if we were invaded during WWII. That people don't give a shit that what they do or don't do strongly affects those around them is actually just more proof that I'm right and they are giant, whiny, world-revolves-around-me, cover-my-eyes-and-the-bad-thing-goes-away toddlers.

The mask lovers can continue to wear their little masks like R413 or act like we are still in lockdown, just as I will not wear a mask for one second longer than I have to and will go to any gathering I feel like as if it was 2019. To each his own!

What R407 said, X 1,000. Topol is so biased it's ridiculous.

Whatever his motivations are, he hasn't been wrong, r416,

I do feel you on the fatigue R408. If you read it, then you would know he has proactive suggestions. They don't include complacency and cutting funding for vaccines, boosters and meds to keep people out of the hospital, as the GOP has effectively done. A recent OpEd in WaPo reflects what Topol has written. No one is being asked to deprive themselves of basic human contact at this point. Certainly not Topol. Hysterical R407? Topol is a numbers guy. He's never hysterical. (That's Eric Feigl-Ding.) He's often very positive, when the numbers warrant it. And his substack is free.

Getting infected, severity of infection, potential for long COVID...it's all such a crapshoot that varies from person to person, often without scientific reason. I'm double boosted, and if I were to get infected, I'd probably be ok. Long COVID is the wild card for me and most other people.

[quote]Unless there is some need to lick strangers, I'm not sure what human contact people are being deprived of.

Question asked and answered, your honor!

[quote]Eric Topol is one of those guys who is cashing in from Covid.

Yes, he's making big bucks from his free newsletter, his free twitter feed and the occasional op-ed.

Lockdowns and masks must be reintroduced.

So basically you're saying Americans are spoiled R411?

Americans are definitely spoiled, whether or not r4111 is saying it. Our contributions and sacrifices in World War II pale in comparison to the rest of the world, but we did it without threatening to overthrow our government. Wearing a mask is hardly like going to work in a factory for the war effort or rationing food or sending your youngest across the world to fight.

[quote]If your blood type is O your resistance to covid is greatly improved. (Feds won't tell you this because too many people might become depressed)

"We'll tell you the terrible inflation #s, crime stats, drug deaths, suicide rates and climate predictions ... but we think the blood type thing might put you over the edge."

R397 if you live near Canada, you can get Novavax there. According to one Canadian government website, they are allowing anyone in the country to get vaxxed, even visitors. You do need to have 2 vax prior to traveling there, so this is only useful forpeople needing a booster.

But are there studies where Novavax has been given on one who has previously been given mRNA vaccines?

[quote]Yes, he's making big bucks from his free newsletter, his free twitter feed and the occasional op-ed.

Your naivete is so sweet.

The flu is having an odd resurgence right now (although not all that odd when you're masking and distancing then take no precautions and jump in mass gatherings).

Funny how much the flu was downplayed when covid was being held up in comparison- having aches, no appetite, a104 degree fever for day or two isn't all that 'mild'...

Do you all think that we have eternal life?

Are you aware of the age of those who died?

Do you realize a cold could have taken most of them out?

Seriously locking up healthy people was the stupidest thing ever and Fauci should be jailed.

The issue is that even healthy people who get a minor cold-like illness and knock it out of their system quickly are susceptible to long-term COVID.

Long term covid seems to be a US thing mostly.

I wonder if it might be partly mental.

To recap, we have a highly unfavorable picture of: (1) accelerated evolution of the virus; (2) increased immune escape of new variants; (2) progressively higher transmissibility and infectiousness; (4) substantially less protection from transmission by vaccines and boosters; (5) some reduction on vaccine/booster protection against hospitalization and death; (6) high vulnerability from infection-acquired immunity only; and (7) likelihood of more noxious new variants in the months ahead

[quote]Long term covid seems to be a US thing mostly.

"Researchers estimated that more than 200 million people globally suffer from long-term effects of COVID-19, according to a recent study."

May 2020 "Flatten the curve"

May 2022 "Long Covid"

May 2045 "SUPERCOVID is still coming!"

NYC Mayor Eric Adams today announced a plant to distribute 16.5 million at-home test kits and 1 million high-quality masks over the next month, in a push to stem the growing number of coronavirus cases and to head off a future wave of the virus.

today @NYCHealthCommr issued an advisory as the City approaches the high #COVID19 Alert Level.

All New Yorkers should wear masks in all indoor public settings.

Those at high risk of severe illness should avoid crowded settings and limit get-togethers:

Mask mandates have never been lifted for public transportation. There are frequent public service announcements reminding customers to wear masks but 40 percent choose not to. Why?

Vaccination does not grant immunity from this virus. Why receive vaccination? To avoid serious illness, hospitalization and DEATH.

The infection rate is higher than these numbers indicate because most of use now test at home!

R432 really posted The Epoch Times.

Time to order your free Covid test. You get 8 this time.

r433, almost the exact opposite of everything you said. The latest strain is weaker than the last 2...it's fading away.

Thanks, R441!

Here's a stupidity on the covid.gov site:

[quote]Is this the first or second order for this address? If so, you can place another order.

Why is covid such a big deal anymore? These strains are not very severe, and if you do get really sick we got the antivirals to whip you back on your feet. All just seems like a nothing burger now. Why all the histeria?

R442 COVID BA.2.12.1 was 7% of total US Covid cases in April. It's 25% more infections than BA.2, and it now makes up 42% of all Covid cases in the US. It doesn't sound like it's fading away at all.

The poor grammar and spelling of r445 makes me smell a troll

Boy, some on here are really obsessed with Covid. Looks like all you can think about is long Covid, new variants wearing masks everywhere. What a joke, get a life!

My government Covid test kit came without instructions. Just this small post it size paper all in Chinese.

Why are you here R448? I mean your so above all the rest of us. I can't imagine what interest you could have in this conversation.

Over and over and over, means you live!

Thanks republicans!

This had to have been a lab leak. Is there really any question? I'm still holding out hope that this WILL one day be behind us, but it would be nice if we could get a better grip on this.

^better grip on *all* of this

R446, but it's getting weaker with each strain. It'll be similar to the common cold in the next 2-3 months.

They said it was not a lab leak after all. Just a bungled virus that is very similar to SARS and MERS.

Or it was similar.

The common cold doesn't cause long covid.

Thanks, Covid. I don't know which is worst, the virus or knowing the world is full of selfish, imbeciles who have zero fucks to give, for the lives of others.

^ Took Covid for you to realize that?

Enjoy this photo instead. Imagine the orgy that followed!

Covid is such a little tease. Frankly, I wish it would just mutate into something with a high mortality rate and just kill everyone swiftly, instead of constant "what if" that surrounds this thing. Just become highly lethal and do your thing already.

40% of people who get a common cold or the flu don’t end up with diabetes.

What's your source that 40% of people who had Covid wind up with diabetes? That sounds ridiculously OTT.

Reply 459, yes it took that. I chose denile up to this point. Can't avoid it now! I am considering booze and dope as a coping mechanism. That should end well.

R463 it was a widely reported study released in March.

Bam! Suck on that reply 463.

^ Speculatory still. VA patients are not models of health.

As for the German study, admittedly small.

I'd wait for definitive findings.

Those that are so concerned with Covid should do us all favor and off yourselves. Afterall what is the point of living in in constant fear of catching it and trying to scare everyone else with your paranoia.

Do not believe many think that Covid is of any significance. “Just a cold.” “Like a case was of the flu.” “No one I know has Long Covid!”

Yet the physicians caring for individuals with Covid are seeing the development of post-infection sequelae in real time. Long Covid is significant: and affecting a good many folks; even those who had mild or moderate Covid infection. Just as with other aspects of the pandemic, it seems to be the “out of sight, out of mind mentality”.

I mentioned last year that a close cardiology colleague had up to 1/3 of his practice consisting of post-Covid abnormalities. Now he states one half of his current patient load is related to Covid pathology. And of my patients, roughly 1/4 have Covid-related problems.

It’s hugely significant.

r465, a 40% increase in the chance for diabetes, which your article indicates, is NOT the same thing as 40% of people with COVID going on to develop diabetes. Sheesh!

You people who think about covid day and night, how do you function in normal society? Yes, there should be some awareness, but not to the level of hysteria and paranoia seen in this thread. I'm convinced that most of the people here with that mindset are, understandably, suffering from PTSD after having endured the AIDS crisis. For these people, the danger of a virus is lurking around every corner. Live your lives that way if you must. I know where you're coming from. But I refuse to cower in fear of a virus that doesn't warrant that type of paranoia.

Nobody thinks about covid day and night, except maybe epidemiologists.

Pigs are better than people. Swine pass flu, but they can't reason like people. People know that Covid kills the elderly, and yet they don't take simple precautions to prevent it's spread.

Covid made young people horny, the rise in stds passed during quarantine proves how selfish people are. They don't give a shit about others.

R472, and the OP.

Everyone's getting Covid again...

NOT.

The only people who don't know anyone with Covid right now are people who literally don't know anyone at all, like R474.

R475, reporting from Shady Pines.

I know what seems like tons of people--family, friends, acquaintances, co-workers--who've had it spanning April 2020 through just last week, with varying levels of age, comorbidities, and vaccination. Even with the original strain and pre-vaccines, no one I knew had a serious case of it, and no one has had long COVID, or at least anything that interferes with their regular lives. I realize this is anecdotal, but if long COVID were such a widespread thing, I'd think I'd know at least a few people who've experienced it.

The epidemiologists that are the talking heads getting the bulk of airtime seem to be neurotics, and sadly, mostly female. Overstating risks, 'just to be on the safe side.'

R476 is so uninformed that he doesn't even realize that the people getting infected the most right now are the under 30 year old group. So, unless you mean Shady Pines college or high school, you're just a fucking ignorant moron like R477, R478, and their ilk. Funny how you all show up in bunches all the time. Shift change?

Masks need to be mandatory everywhere all over the world and remain in place until this is over.

*sigh*

Last year my cousin was hospitalized for COVID. They had to put him on a ventilator and everything. I’m so glad he survived, he’s my favorite cousin.

In my circle I know more than two dozen people who’ve had Covid (including my husband) and two who’re suffering from truly long Covid.

An elderly in-law developed [italic] severe [/italic] brain fog. His family now provides nearly full time care.

Our middle-aged accountant, after successfully nursing his wife and children through moderately tough Covid, caught it himself and now has intermittent foggy brain. He’s had to hire an assistant to help keep himself properly focused.

It’s real and consequential.

My sister had a very mild case in December 2021. Her sense of smell has not returned at all and her sense of taste is off. A lot of food tastes bad, like garbage, she says. These aren't debilitating long-term side effects, but she is acutely aware that the loss is a result of brain damage caused by COVID and that the virus is still dormant in her system.

I will do everything I can to avoid getting it in the first place, which includes keeping up with boosters, avoiding large crowds and indoor gatherings, and wearing a mask. NYC hasn't called for a renewed mask mandate but is urging people to mask up. Many companies in NY and Boston are requiring masks again.

I'd been using N95 masks (those 3M foam "painters' masks"), and just tried a KF94. It was so much more comfortable; I'm switching.

I got my second booster about 3 weeks ago. I have been going to some indoor things I can't get around (e.g. doctor's appointments) and am always masked.

Luckily our health care facility still requires masks. Places like the grocery store do not and almost no one is wearing one there. Now that numbers are rising, all the places I was going indoors with a mask are back on the no fly zone, so to speak.

I wear an N95 with a cloth mask over top, because the cloth one helps me secure the smaller one into place.

Bloomberg:

Apple delayed a plan to require workers to come back to the office three days a week, citing a resurgence in Covid-19 cases.

Employees were going to be required to work from the office on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays starting May 23. Apple didn’t provide a new date for the in-office requirement and told employees it would be delayed indefinitely.

Apple employees are still required to work in the office two days a week and must wear masks in common areas.

New York City raised its COVID alert level to high on Tuesday, less than 24 hours after warning of the possibility, as a fifth pandemic wave fueled by the most contagious COVID subvariants yet tighten their grip on the metro area and the nation.

Last summer, Eric Clapton declared that would not perform any shows at venues where audience members were required to show proof of Covid vaccination to enter and called vaccine efforts "mass formation hypnosis."

Today, he announced that he has tested positive for covid and has canceled his upcoming concerts.

I've had 3 people in the past 2 days tell me they tested positive for Covid (I'm in NY). It's ridiculous they are just suggesting masks indoors and not requiring it given how high the numbers are right now.

Oh, aintcha hoid, R490? We're all sick and tired of masks! Not sick and tired of getting covid, apparently, but whatever.

lolll R491 yeah yeah I did hear. I guess if people want to risk it - it's up to them.

R489 Lets hope it's nothing trivial.

Is there some truth to it or is that just another weird conspiracy theory? Did some of you get cancer recently?

R490, you can continue to wear your precious little mask and anyone that chooses to do so, but fuck off thinking you have a right to require everyone else to do so as well!

Enjoy your respirator, r495. Can I have your things?

She is almost healed from covid and has now natural immunity I guess... #qtwiq

I refuse to get vaxxed and don't wear a face diaper, and I have yet to get covid. I let my robust and healthy immune system do the work for me. I eat well and in ways to maximize immunity, take multivitamins, including plenty of vitamin D, exercise regularly, and sleep well. If I were to get it, it would be nothing more than a common cold for me.

R498 failed fifth grade science.

r499=introverted socially awkward fuggo who wants masks and lockdowns to continue till the end of time.

Is this what the anti-vaxxer crowd means with natural immunity like "FTW" says here?

R498 Famous last words....?

Four people tested positive at work today. The only reason they knew they were sick was because someone on their team tested positive and they took tests to be on the safe side. That's 4 asymptomatic cases, which appears to be the direction this thing is headed.

R498 must be living in mommy and daddy's basement and hasn't left the house or gone to a public place in 3 years.

I was in the subway today (in nyc) many are wearing masks but quite a few didn't and they were the ones coughing and sneezing. I hope it's just the fucking seasonal allergies for them. And it's getting crowded again.

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Well R503, if you are asymptomatic, why should you care to know, you obviously aren't experiencing any problems, Oh, and don't give me the but you are spreading to others, WHO CARES!

they can bring it home to someone who has medical issues, R508, you obviously wouldn't know coz you have nobody who loves you and you live alone.

Medical issues, co-morbidities blah blah blah. Each new variant gets less and less virulent, and for most people this basically ranges from the asymptomatic to a bad cold. The only people dying now are elderly people who are catching it and already on their death beds. I'm sorry if that sounds callous, but these people were about to die anyway. These are the same population of people who are vulnerable to dying from the flu every year, and we certainly never shut down the world for that. And please spare me the "long COVID" bullshit. I have a hunch that if someone researched the people getting this, they would find that these individuals had pre-existing psychological/emotional issues, just as people with CFS and IBS tend to have. The crisis is over and the hysteria/paranoia need to end. It's time to label it is what it is--a cold--and get on with our lives.

Depression is an inflammatory disease R510. I feel bad for you. Get well.

r510 if you get it I hope you recover quickly and you dont have any long term effects

People who get it should be quarantined forever. Locked up in a cage to wither and die. They is pure evil.

R513 I'd rather that was done to people who won't wear masks.

There is mounting evidence that COVID19 is a pro-thrombotic, vascular/endothelial disease. The question is, are the tests we are currently doing in #LongCOVID clinics good enough? If CTPA and lung function are normal, should we be looking harder? Do people have access to VQ? 9/

You nervous nellies are going to worry yourselves into an early grave. The panic and neuroses will ultimately inflict more harm on society than COVID could ever hope to. Some of you seem to have a sense of glee, a smugness. from all of the doom and gloom, as if you feel that nature is finally exacting its revenge on the people you intensely dislike (straight people, republicans, conservatives, etc.). That's particularly bothersome.

Are the C and V buttons on your computer worn out from all the copying and pasting, R516? You all just keep repeating the same nonsense. It's getting laughable at this point.

Long-COVID Alliance: Diagnostic and Treatment Resources

They need to shut down restaurants, bars, theaters, etc in NYC for the summer. I know, I know. No one wants to hear that, especially the business owners, but there are people dying. NYC must enforce masking everywhere, and mandatory quarantine at home unless you need to travel to the hospital. Fire Island needs to cancel the season too, and the Jersey Shore, and other such amusements adjacent to the city.

Take a valium R519. Jesus Christ. No one is dying, except the people who you would expect to die.

I think r519 was being sarcastic. If he wasn't, then see r520...and a good therapist.

Everyone is testing positive in NYC but hopefully this means we will be immune for the summer.

I think masking works. That's probably all that is needed.

Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. The majority of people and businesses are not going to take up masking again. Both parties have to be masked for it to be very effective.

Wearing a mask in a store full of unmasked people and workers offers only minor protection. If everyone is masked, it's highly effective.

R519, we all know you can't be serious, but if you are, you are obviously a deranged LOON!

We should all be made to wear something like this.

Ugly socially awkward unfuckables and AIDS PTSD-ers are going to milk restrictions and masks till the bitter end.

Stupid anti-vaxxer, racist Pauline Hansen has caught COVID two days out from election day. She is unvaccinated.

From today's Los Angeles County Department of Health email, in regards to school cases:

"The number of cases among students and staff increased nearly four-fold in one month, likely reflecting higher rates of community transmission.

For the week ending May 8, there were a total of 5,620 positive cases at schools across the county, of which 4,465 were among students and 1,155 among staff. A month prior, for the week ending April 10, there were 1,422 positive cases, of which 1,167 were among students and 255 among staff.

Test positivity also increased this past month at schools from 0.19% for the week ending April 8 to 0.61% for the week ending May 13."

No one is stopping anybody from putting on a mask if they want to.

You must be an ugly freak R527. Everyone here knows who you are.

Older people and those with comorbidities are smart to keep masking in public indoor spaces. Your rants about this have nothing to do with your social or sexual life. You are not young - but an incel and shut in. This is more obvious than you realize. I suspect you like parks and bookstore stalls.

I show my maskless face every day at the gym, at work and on the streets. In the sheets too. SEXY.

I still ain't going to a movie theatre or walking around a chaotic shopping mall or grocery store unmasked. It's my choice and right to wear one.

There is no law or mandate anymore - in case you didn't know R527. Why don't you ride on a crowed school bus full of unmasked grade schoolers. Everyday, twice.

Or attend an orgy or gangfuck. It's not like you ever leave your house. R527 is only upset because he is not given full access to see the faces of MEN and BOYS who would never speak to him anyway. His kind of rant always comes from the most neurotic and frightened. He wants to be told it's okay to creep to the bookstore stalls again.

I do think that many men and women who lived through AIDS have had a deja vu experience. Revisit of trauma. Some have said so. This strange killer virus that no one was sure how you got it and being close to people came with a terrible warning. You may or not have it. You can die from it or hurt loved ones. Just by being in the same room with them. The need to wear protection. All great destroyers of human comfort and freedom come with elements of paranoia. COVID terrified many people. And killed even MORE. 18 + million people.

The ones worried about masks are HIV poz. No wonder you feel trauma.

And you wrote the neurotic post.

Reading about monkeypox is making me think covid is preferable.

I'm 39 years old and have never even thought much about having AIDS. We're fucking and breeding on PrEP. Your old man concerns are not mine, R532. HIV Poz really dates you, old man. My post was at least inclusive and thoughtful. You're not capable.

The only people who even use phrases like "HIV poz" are really OLD gay men who've NEVER had much real sex. What century are you posting from?

We know your posts and your languaging and your CAPS. Good luck to you R527/R532. You're a sad old f@g who's afraid to get back his knees at the mall toilet. Don't let COVID stop you. The heat of your breath kills e v e r y t h i n g. Anonymous dick and cute boy pics are all you're ever gonna get. Go back to your life!

Some are just so obsessed with Covid, they so badly want the full restriction bonanza of 2020 to return.

Hm, R535, kind of makes sense since the numbers now are actually worse than they were in 2020. Just wait until the Fall. Fun times. Morons.

R528 I hope she sets a good example for the world - and dies!

Considering that cases quadrupled in the past month in L.A. County, maybe that's not the worst idea, r535.

forget covid, now there is monkey pox!

R536 when does fall start?

Can the neurotics gap over covid and moneypox?

Infections, hospitalizations, and ICU admissions continue to climb here. We'll see if deaths follow suit.

R537 She will probably also get Money Pox. She is known to be very sexually active.

R438 Probably spread Covid to goodness knows how many….

I’ve lost two family members to this shit!!!!!

[quote]I’ve lost two family members to this shit!!!!!

1) When did you lose them? Early in pandemic, before vaccines?

2) How old were they?

3) Did they have co-morbidities?

You can't just scream "I’ve lost two family members to this shit!!!!!" without providing context.

Yes, because if they were old and/or had co-morbidities, we can dismiss their deaths.

You said that, I didn't. But it provides context.

We know what you *meant*. It's the mentality behind this whole mantra, "Covid is so over, let's just forget ALL about it, ya'll !!"

R537 She was interviewed by phone by Kyle & Jackie O and said 'Im up the shit I've got COVID' 'I've been all over Australia and picked it up in the most locked down state in Australia (meaning Western Australia)' 'I'll be back soon'.

I just worry what COVID will do now Monkey Pox is the new COVID. This has taken on a Jan-Marcia dynamic and that's never good.

As NYC Mayor Adams said yesterday, we can't introduce mandates and restrictions every time there's a surge. He said the new norm is going to be new variant after new variant, and we have to find a way to live with that reality without killing NYC's economy with rolling shut downs, restrictions, and mandates. People WILL die, but people die every day from things that we have little control over. It's a sad reality, but nonetheless, it is the reality.

He's being bullied by Patti LaPone. If Broadway shuts down, she'll have no one to scream at!

Mayor Adam's has it right, no more shutdowns, restrictions like all the nervous nellies on here want so badly. This is the new normal, LIVE WITH IT chicken shits!

Totally agree with Mayor Adams. If we were to shut down and impose mask mandates every time we encounter a new variant, the city would falter economically. It's not easy to accept, but COVID is not going away and we must learn to live with this in a way that doesn't devastate the economy. Yes, some people will die, and it's awful, but if we use the analogy of a war, all wars have casualties. That's reality. Hopefully the trend of milder disease, especially among the vaxxinated/boosted will continue with each new variant, and mortality can be kept to a minimum. The world needs to function, and cannot be on pause for a pandemic with no end in sight.

Monkeypox is more worrisome than Covid at this point. If it spreads to the gay community in NYC, we will long for the days of covid.

Not casting aspersions or anything but if monkey pox is spread through direct skin contact this thing will spread like wildfire through the gay community since everyone's a slut now due to the apps and the younger generation hasn't had the worries of catching something that we oldsters had.

Monkeypox is a nothingburger.

Let's wait for updates from the Troy, NY bathhouse habitue before we dismiss that theory, okay?

[quote] Mayor Adam's has it right, no more shutdowns, restrictions like all the nervous nellies on here want so badly. This is the new normal, LIVE WITH IT chicken shits!

Unfortunately there are reports of people getting Covid 3-4 times.

WEAR YOUR F'ING MASKS!

You can get off the cross R458. No one cares about anyone, yourself included. It's the tragedy of the commons. There are simply too many of us. You acting like you are above it all is just plain old virtue signaling, or sanctimony, as it used to be called.

R458 has a better view of things than you do.

R559, you can wear your little mask all you want, but DON'T try to tell me to wear one! The ONLY time I wear a mask is when it is mandatory to enter a given establishment and NOT for one second longer!

Why are some people on here so selfish?

It's not just people who have COVID who are at risk, it's anyone with a chronic or serious illness of some kind. If the hospital systems get overwhelmed anyone with heart failure or some other medical emergency is going to have a tough time getting care or an ICU bed if everyone's on respirators.

Not to mention the severe burnout the health sector is seeing, reducing quality of care even more. Is it that hard to wear a mask and keep your distance from people?

Everybody deserves good health care but the sad reality is that not everyone will GET good health care if there are too many patients and not enough nurses or doctors.

All unvaxxed people who need to go to the hospital should be relegated to a triage tent in the parking lot. People with heart or kidney failure should be denied a room because selfish morons won't get the vaccine.

Who cares anymore? Covid has turned into the common cold.

Can any of the anti-mask morons on here give me one reason beyond "Waaah, I don't wanna!" to not wear a mask when indoors around other people?

[quote]Can any of the anti-mask morons on here give me one reason beyond "Waaah, I don't wanna!" to not wear a mask when indoors around other people?

Because the vaccine is more than enough for a generally healthy person.

R567. The vaccine is enough to what? Not catch it?

Or get through it with minimal illness?

Because the latter still leaves you vulnerable to long Covid. I would be interested to see the stats on long Covid among those vaccinated who had the disease though.

Unless you are a doctor, why do you need to see stats about anything? This focus on long Covid is another grift from the people who are desperate to keep this thing going. Get vaccinated and get boosted and wear mask if you so choose or don't wear one. I am not against mask wearing, I am against mandatory mask wearing.

There was this elderly woman in front of me in line at the store yesterday. She would not stop yammering about how sick her husband was and how everyone should get vaccinated and how he's immunocompromised and has long covid.

Meanwhile, she's the one out in public not wearing a mask. Whatever, lady.

R569. Curiosity? Due diligence? An interest in the reality of the situation so I can make an informed decision?

Concepts alien to people who seem intent on believing whatever fits with their convenient worldview at the present moment. Like those who believe long Covid is a grift.

[quote]Like those who believe long Covid is a grift.

I can respect curiosity. As for the grift part, I believe that there are quite a few people who have gotten "Covid famous". Not Fauci, but certain others who you see on social media and the "experts" on the cable networks. They like the big Twitter following and the bookings. Even the media does click-bait stories about this stuff.

I believe there are some people who have lingering post Covid symptoms, just not to the degree that some what like us to think.

R572. If you read through the thread, the statistics would seem to disagree with you there.

And I'm very tired of people making the fallacy of assuming that people who profit off something must have caused it. Farmers profit off rain but they don't create it.

You think I think these people caused long Covid? C'mon gurl. I didn't say that anywhere. Do I think they're making it more than it is? Yes.

R574. Oh sorry. Nonetheless, I don't think authorities are making long covid out to be more than it is. It seems a fair amount of research is validating that it's a serious issue.

I've resigned myself to the fact that we're all going to get it, and multiple times. It's just too infectious to be avoided, unless you barricade yourself in your basement for the rest of your life. As long as it's the equivalent of a cold or mild flu, I don't see the big deal. The goal of restrictions was to spare the healthcare system from becoming overloaded, but that's obviously not happening with these current subvariants. So that leaves long COVID as the wild card. Yes it concerns me, but I'm not going to stop living life, which for me includes eating in restaurants and going to bars (yes, I know...what's a bar, lol), working out at the gym, and hanging out with friends who are both vaxxed and unvaxxed, on the off chance that even a mild case leads to long-term symptoms.

This is so sad.

R577 There are tens of thousands of similar stories like this one. There were so many who didn't get the vaccine that died unnecessarily. You only get one chance at life, don't waste it.

R577 R578 Many died before the vaccines were available. Those who refuse to get the vaccine once they became widely available are just risking their life. The nonsense about freedom or conspiracy theories is ridiculous.

Everyone do what you want.

Yes, those pre-vaccine text messages just made me so sad. Those poor people scared and alone in the hospital texting their families, some of them right up until they were intubated. And then the family members texting back trying to reach them.

Ooooof. Horribly sad.

^Ah yes, sad, just terribly sad. They had so little strength. That reminds me, should I do bi's/tri's today, or chest/back? I'm going to sex party tomorrow night, and I can't decide which pumped up area will make me more attractive to prospective tops.

LOL R582 - well yes, go get 'em! just be careful of monkeypox!!! From the monkeypox thread, it seems like all the fat whores are waiting in the wings... anxiously awaiting your demise.

I am worried about everything nowadays. Does anyone else feel that way too? Do I have a leaky vaccine shot and will it still prevent omicron part 6?

I don't know, but the rate of infection is really high in my state and area, and no one is wearing masks. Well, I am.

Is it too early to start serving ivermectin on my charcuterie board? I hear it pairs well with a mild Camembert and a Pinot Grigio. (Bright in the mouth with a citrusy “orange” mouth feel, the finish is flabby with an earthy, dead feel).

I'm in a high transmission county, and I was literally the only person wearing a mask in the packed sauna last night. I've been foregoing giving head there in favor of JO, since I don't want to go maskless, and well as trying to set a good example. There are sacrifices we must be willing to make.

Covid hospitalizations in Illinois up 87% in the last month.

COVID hospitalizations are up a whopping 300% in my area from last week. Last week we had 1, now we have 3. Run for cover!!

All the nervous nellies on this thread constantly spewing one ominous number or another. Obvious total fixation on bad news. Well, you can continue to wear masks as much as you want, nobody is stopping. But don't get your panties all in a bunch because other people aren't acting like paranoid freaks.

I have to laugh at the hospitalization numbers. Many of those are people in the hospital NOT FOR Covid but WITH Covid, which means they incidentally picked it up in the hospital when they were admitted for something else. Yes, that means there's more community spread, but also that it's not serious. It's a legit conclusion based on the fact that ICU admissions and ventilator cases are basically flat.

Besides the patchy baldness, gray skin tone and obvious IQ and memory problems of long haulers. I learned my brother who got it from some MAGAt in October of 2020 (on purpose, the parents had his kid over to entertain their's because they were sick. Assholes) has had high blood pressure and AfIb and now his kidneys are fucked. He's in amazing shape. And now he's just not. I'm not nearly as healthy as him and have smoked for decades. It will kill me

[quote] Besides the patchy baldness, gray skin tone and obvious IQ and memory problems of long haulers. I learned my brother who got it from some MAGAt in October of 2020 (on purpose, the parents had his kid over to entertain their's because they were sick. Assholes) has had high blood pressure and AfIb and now his kidneys are fucked. He's in amazing shape. And now he's just not. I'm not nearly as healthy as him and have smoked for decades. It will kill me.

Am sorry to hear this, R592. Can empathize.

[quote] All the [bold] nervous nellies [/bold]on this thread constantly spewing one ominous number or another. Obvious total fixation on bad news. Well, you can continue to wear masks as much as you want, nobody is stopping. But don't get your panties all in a bunch because other people aren't acting like paranoid freaks.

Cease the name calling, R590. You come off as exceedingly ignorant.

Come and make rounds with me in the hospital and see the (many previously healthy) folks who now have Long Covid. Some of them had very mild cases of Covid; or did not even know they had the virus. Today I saw a patient who has no use of his lower limbs from Covid-neuropathy. Saw quite a number of “brain fog” Covid patients....one who could not even remember her name. Then there was the one transferred from psych with psychosis, and the elderly gentleman with post-Covid rapid onset dementia.

Cease the minimization of Covid. It’s had a huge impact on patients, medical staff, the USA, the economy, social aspects, and the well-being of millions throughout the world.

It is also still very much in play, and your foolish denial of it only marks you as imbecilic.

r593, it's nice that the mental hospital lets you use their computers after business hours.

^ Not “after business hours”, here R584, but your posts demonstrate that you are not the brightest bulb in the box, so your inability to perceive possibilities is no surprise.

Trolling is for the simple-minded, like yourself.

So carry on with your inanities.

[quote]COVID hospitalizations are up a whopping 300% in my area from last week. Last week we had 1, now we have 3. Run for cover!!

What backwards, unpopulated shithole do you live in?

I sympathize with the above poster on mask-wearing. When I shop, I feel like the last one in CA to mask up. Being healthy feels good to me. I don't see an issue of wanting to preserve my health. When I see nobody else around wearing masks, I feel a bit sorry for them but then we are all free to choose.

LOL R593, if they didn't even know they were infected,then it must not have been much of of issue to them and spare me the long Covid narrative, that is getting old.

Forget covid, now we got mpox!

[Quote] Many of those are people in the hospital NOT FOR Covid but WITH Covid, which means they incidentally picked it up in the hospital when they were admitted for something else.

If they are in the ICU, it’s most likely because of COVID. Also, because transmission rates in the community are nowhere near the 70-80% Covid positivity rate of the increase, that says it’s COVID as the reason for the uptick.