Who is the Greatest Homosexual of All Time?

Freddie.

Sir John gets my vote

John Dodds!

[quote] All Time

That is 4.543 billion years.

The universe is closer to 14 billion years r4

Leonardo da Vinci

Alan Turing

Pete Buttigieg

Marcel Proust

Alan Turing

What about me?!

R4 and R5 Wrong. The Earth is only 5,000 years old.

Fuck you, OP. Just for my omission, I will not conquer your land.

Or your ass.

Paul Lynde

Ahem.

r13, are you also r11?

they didn't include The Great after his name for nothing

Roy Cohn, along with Hoover. Gay men at the center of political power. Also evil, so there is that

What an incredibly stupid, and again US centric (except rocket man) poll. What about Roman emperor Hadrian who solidified the empire? Alexander the Great, one of history’s greatest military conquerors? Renaissance artists Leonardo, Michelangelo, Caravaggio? Writers Oscar Wilde? Proust?

Of course these choices would require some knowledge beyond your little bubble OP. You’re worst than Faye Dunaway OP!

I like blue

R17 Gielgud wasn't American?

Whoever it is, it's not r17.

Oscar Wilde

Quentin Crisp

Truman Capote

Anthony Kennedy

OP is a troll who has started a number of incendiary polls lately

Frank Kameny

William Shakespeare

Colton Haynes

Barack Obama

Shakespeare was not gay r27. At best bisexual, but that's anachronistic.

Now Christopher Marlowe ...

James Baldwin

Sorry, William Shakespeare was a true blue homo

Plato? Frederick the Great? Trajan? Hadrian? Certainly nobody from the 20th-21st century, or from the Anglo world. Much bigger homos have existed elsewhere.

[quote] William Shakespeare was a true blue homo

Because I say so!

Richard Simmons

James Baldwin.

It's me. Chris Salvatore.

I'm not r32, but if you write 150 love sonnets, and 90% are addressed to a young man, or Fair Youth, that's good indication of homosexuality, r34.

I was unfair at r33, considering the examples of Shakespeare and Alan Turing, who are good candidates for the title. But OP's list is infuriatingly parochial and underwhelming. I wonder what stopped him from including Sean Hayes in the poll.

Why, that most famous homosexual of all, Almighty God:

1) very creative

2) terrible temper

3) created women later, as an afterthought

4) women love him, inexplicably, are are constantly invading his spaces

4) holds a grudge FOREVER

5) some people claim he doesn’t exist

Leonardo da Vinci

/thread

What about Lawrence of Samantha's labia?

Da Vinci's sexuality is ill-documented. Michelangelo is a more reliably gay name.

No Dawson?

R43 Except for Da Vinci’s arrest for being gay

Alexander

lmao the fugly gay rat has way too many votes.

You bitches are hilarious.

Da Vinci, Michaelangelo and Alexander the Great.

But given they also went for very young boys (Salai, Febo, Bagoas), that may rule the three of them out with the DL pedo-obsessed fraus.

In that case, we'll go for a bisexual: Shakespeare.

I'm glad no one has named me, because I was NOT a homosexulist. But I was great however.

I thought Gore was a raging?

Girls in ancient Greece were married off at the age of 15. And I know that in imperial China girls entered the life of prostitution earlier than boys did. Wherever pederasty flourished, girls as young or even younger than the desired boys were also lusted after along with their brothers. I think it was only in the 19th-century that straights understood that tweens and early teens should not have sex with adults. That's why I don't care anymore about the "pedo-shaming" that r48 speaks of. What's good for the goose...

Definitely Alexander the Great, r17.

Followed closely by Alan Turing.

Cough.

Liberace!

Yep, sorry, I forgot Alan Turing. Absolutely he should be in the short list.

[quote]Da Vinci's sexuality is ill-documented. Michelangelo is a more reliably gay name.

Documented arrest for sodomy, only got off because a Medici nephew was one of the three co-accused.

Leonardo was the quintessential renaissance man, a true multifaceted genius, but Michelangelo was arguably the greater artist. Incidentally, they loathed each other and famously clashed in Piazza della Signoria in Florence when Leonardo sarcastically tried to shade Michelangelo for the amusement of his friends, triggering the notoriously bad-tempered Michelangelo to read him for filth in front of the whole square and send him into depression for weeks.

But both men were undeniably gay.

💕 Abraham Lincoln 💕

Turing shades it for saving civilisation, for early computer genius, and for his brutal homophobic persecution.

Leonardo and Michelangelo next, for all above reasons.

In modern times, Sondheim is certainly up there with the greatest.

Your husband, father and son, OP...

Ask me how I know

Hehe, Pete Buttigieg. Who said you Americans didn't have a sense of humor.

Beethoven

Greatest in what way? The best person? The most popular? The brightest? The sluttiest? The biggest Mo?

Leonardo DiCaprio

Jake Gyllenhaal

Bradley Cooper...

Too soon?

Me. Obviously.

R62 This unanswerable question has no criteria.

I’m always surprised when lists like these don’t include the Marquis de Sade. Bisexual, but what would we ever do without the dear Marquis?

Surprised to not see Plato, Socrates, or Walt Whitman on the list!

If you agree with the theory Hitler was a repressed screamer, should he be on the list as ‘an influencer’? After all, Alexander the Great must have slaughtered whole tribes on his way to glory.

Someone asked who was the sluttiest. Not slutty but definitely up there with the numbers was the German nudist movement (FKK) figure Hajo Ortil, who once said in an interview he’d slept with 600 boys (or was it 900?) without complaint.

^ That's the weirdest Frau answer I ever could imagine

Yukio Mishima.

@r66, Nice homophobic response...

Brent Corrigan.

"Hitler was a repressed screamer"

Now you tell me AFTER I took the cyanide

Homophobic response? What's wrong with Bad Gays? They need to be celebrated!

And not just with the Bad Gays podcast.

^ Is there a "Bad Frau" podcast of which you are the star?

No one said this was a Woke list and only NICE gays who never offended anyone were allowed to be on it.

If that were the case, it's going to be a very fucking short list of none.

Fuck every last one of you!

@r74, Hitler is your God, don't foist him on us

Harvey Milk put his ass out there on the line for gay rights before ANYONE would speak up.

No contest.

[quote]Hitler was a repressed screamer

'Faggot' would have been the more dependable brainless homophobic slur. Hitler was anything but repressed when he screamed at his Nuremberg rallies.

Oh God: check out the trolling frau at R76. Yeah luv: we're wearing our Hitler Youth uniform as we type. Twat.

Are we debating who was the greatest person who was also a homosexualist?

Or are we debating who was the best at being a homosexualist?

@r79, Glad you recognize your cuntery. Tell your husband he gives the worst blow jobs. Get off our site, scum

Never heard that Hitler was homosexual. I mean, with these arguments you can accuse any man of being a repressed homo.

^ He wasn't, it's just the DL homophobic Frau making it up as she goes. She still hasn't gotten over the fact that her husband would rather suck dick then touch her

You have to appreciate the level of worldly sophistication on DL when Leonardo Da Vinci and Michelangelo don't even show up in the first cut. I mean, it's real nice about Pete and all that, but, really?

[quote]Never heard that Hitler was homosexual.

Da-daa! Tap shoes ready. Springtime for...

^ Why weren't you first with all your worldly knowledge?

Smartest one in the trailer park, you are

Btw, there is not a shred of viable evidence on the Bard. Honest scholars admit that thing we really about him is when and where he was born, when he died, who he married, and the names of his children.

Comparison of him as a candidate with the martyred Turing is an insult to Turing's memory.

Keep it real.

the only things we really know about him

R84

Yeah, as if a straight man would write a sonnet like No52, which is nothing less than a hymn to the Fair Youth's cock.

Do you think a straight man would ever speak like that?

No Turing? No Leonardo? No Tchaikovski? No Wilde? Bah.

Let's forget all the great renaissance men in favor of the secretary of transportation and the host of Celebrity Game Night.

😂😳😭

R89 Right. And Tolstoy must have been either a trans woman or a transvestite, because all you have to do is read Anna Karenina to see that he couldn't otherwise so completely have put himself into the hearts and souls of Kitty, Anna, and Dolly.

Right down to what Kitty was wearing as she sets off to that ball where she tralises that Vronsky has fallen for Anna.

Ffs, there's a pretty fair contingent out there who are convinced he was really Mary Sidney.

Which would work with #52, too, eh?

Wow: to think someone -- correction, an obtuse frau -- is really disputing the bisexuality of Shakespeare on DL. Go and fight it out with Prof Stanley Wells. We're not going to waste our time.

Oscar Wilde is the Fairie Godfather of the DL

I would have been on this list a few years ago.

Fie!!!

I shall have my revenge!!!

[quote]Oscar Wilde is the Fairie Godfather of the DL

That's what makes Velvet Goldmine such a great movie.

On the disputed/possible list -

John Lennon

Jesus (am I the only one who thinks this?)

R94 You can also gauge the level of sophistication on DL by the conflation of pointing out the difference between actual knowledge and fond acceptance of gauzy assumption as "disputing frauism".

I didn't dispute that he may have been anything.

I disputed the absolute assumption that he was anything because, for all his fame, we really know fuck all about what he thought, how he felt, who he fucked, who his real friends were . .

In fact, he seems to have been an almost embarrassingly solid member of the bourgeoisie for someone with that level of artistry working in that louche an arena

Oh, Franicis Bacon should also be on this list.

Both of them.

[quote]Hadrian?

Oh, I'd say Bob Mackie before him.

R93 I am not assuming anything and it is hard to tell which historical personality was homosexual, but writing a novel with convincing opposite sex characters and writing the poetry about craving cock is not the same thing.

Have they actually identified the man who wrote the Man from Nantucket?

R93 and R99 It is possible that Wordsworth didn't care for daffodils too, but it is not wrong to assume he did care, either.

Andy Warhol

When he becomes POTUS, and Happy 40th Pete - he's now (almost) DL age

Sean Storm

Janet Reno?

My husband of course.

Langston Hughes

R101 - Oh, perhaps I was hallucinating but I do believe that in the last year a male author apologised for writing female characters. In fact, from the modern point of view, Helen Mirren shouldn't play Golda Meir because she isn't Jewish, only trans actors should play trans characters, white people can't write black characters . . . if Anna Karenina were first published today, Tolstoy would be excoriated for daring to portray women and women's psyches, and imposing his traditionalist views on poor Kitty, who, instead of being terrified of being an old maid, should secretly have been a lesbian hungering for Anna herself . . .

I don't care whether the Bard is hetero, bi, or authentically One of Us. I actually don't care if he's really Marlowe or Mary Sidney, because it's the work itself that matters. But I bring Sidney up because, quite amusingly, the Sidney folk view is exactly yours: she wrote far too knowledgeably about some things not to have been 1) an aristocrat and not a bourgeois pleb like William, and 2) a woman. They, too, insist that they CAN know this stuff even though any scholar will tell you we know next to nothing about the author's private life.

Turing was a homosexual martyr and we know that for a fact. Putting the Bard next to him on the basis of one sonnet is, as I said, insulting to Turing and to anyone who values fact.

Let's start a thread on whether the Bard was really Mary Sidney, and you can listen to them tell you the same thing you're telling me about #52, and you two lots can have it out.

Mary!

Mary! is the greatest homosexual reaction of all time.

Shakespeare was, above all, a witty fucking bitch

R113 - On that I will agree . . .

And in his werks there is much merrie porn . . .

Behind every successful gay husband is... You know the rest... wink wink kiss.

Fran Lebowitz.

Just what DL needs: another deranged hag like r110 that come to gay boards and screw them over with their lonely ravings. “The Bard”: for fucks sake Mary: just fuck off.

[quote] Turing was a homosexual martyr and we know that for a fact

I don't like ascribing motives for someone I don't know .

Not Hitler, but Ernst Röhm. Just yesterday, Wikipedia was highlighting how he was the first openly gay politician (in an article which seems to have been already deleted). Just think if he had become Fuehrer! It would have been the gayest of Third Reichs!

Sorry, R14. It wasn't there when I started typing, promise.

Antoine Merriwether

R117 Och ye puir wee laddie . . .

Grow a fucking set, will you?

It's shorter than typing his fucking long name, and it's a name he's been called in ironic familiarity as well as admiration.

Next you'll be accusing me of being Mary Sidney.

Sorry, darling, not going anywhere.

And shove your misogyny up your sagging cheeks, or I'll set me moither on ye.

R110

Oscar Wilde is my man. I think I was 13 when I read one of his biographies.

Larry Kramer

40, God, himself was, IMO an angry homophobic father. But his son, Jesus is definitely Gay: Very close to his mother, solicited and recruited other guys and hung around with them exclusively. Loved to travel and couch surf, freeloading dinners. And his next to last act was organizing a party before going off into the Rambles at Gethsemane and being accosted by homophobes. He was a victim of a hate crime for sure. And he had a small gaggle of hags following him doing his bidding throughout his adult life. He made a career out of traveling around giving talks. Always telling people what to do and how to be better, he set himself up as a hype critical "authority" on fine living. This was before podcasts.

[quote]Jesus is definitely Gay...This was before podcasts.

And no need for Instagram selfies. Art history and film has kept His brand front and centre. Then there's the crucifix jewellery, the Big Book, and all its spin-offs. It's all been quite the posthumous career.

Oscar Wilde

No bisexuals.

I’d also like to add Sylvester.

Ueda Akinari

Barry Manilow. Peter Allen.

Allan Carr

I can only think of 3 GOATs.

Alexander the Great

Michelangelo

Alan Turing

I'd like to include either Socrates, Plato or Aristotle, but I get them mixed up.

What about Cole Porter? Huh?

R133, yes! Duh

SIR JOHN GIELGUD is the real answer.

Michael Jackson...he made so many children happy!

Vincent Van Gogh

Alexander the great/end thread!

R132 You Forgot Leonardo DaVinci.

I am

Da Vinci was remarkable. But he can't compare to Michelangelo. Michelangelo was an engineer, an architect, an inventor, as well as a sculptor and a painter. And he was prolific. He left us so much work. If you ever get a chance to go to Florence to the Academia Del Arte, and see his "unfinished" sculptures of slaves they are timeless. Literally timeless. They are modern, and abstract, and innovative.

[quote] Da Vinci was remarkable. But he can't compare to Michelangelo.

But what about Isaac Newton?

^Absolutely Homosexual^

Absolutely Quare

Was Sir Isaac Gay?

Yes, absolutely.

It's as absolute as gravity.

Michaelangelo, Da Vinci, Hadrian and Oscar Wilde were pederest. Are the woke gays okay with that and claiming them as their own. Here is a list of a few more prominent pederests.

Michelangelo was no pederast, neither was Hadrian Or Oscar Wilde. The fact is homophobia was alive and well back then and if you were gay they automatically assumed you were into little kids. But the fact is in Middle Eastern culture, the "straight" men often took very young boys and used them like women. This goes back to the time of Christ at least. And you wonder why the Catholic Church has, for centuries sexually abused young boys and condemned Gay people? Those rotten fuckers tried to distract the world promoting homophobia while they were practicing pedophiles. I hate it when Homosexuality is conflated with being a pedophile. Fuck this shit. And pay attention to the veiled homophobic posts creeping into the threads.

[quote] And pay attention to the veiled homophobic posts creeping into the threads.

Where, R148.