US airlines warn C-Band 5G could cause 'catastrophic disruption'

Not sure what any of this means.

Can any tech nerds translate?

just another thing for Americans to get insane anxiety about. Its like 2020 just keeps on coming.

[quote] "Unless our major hubs are cleared to fly, the vast majority of the traveling and shipping public will essentially be grounded," they state in the letter, which was sent to the heads of the White House Economic Council, Federal Aviation Administration and Federal Communications Commission, as well as Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.

It sounds like Mayor Pete from Indiana is in WAY over his head.

Maybe he should take another two months off?

You're doing a heck of a job, Petey!

I stopped flying when I retired, so I say let's let 5G roll out like the wireless companies want and see what happens.

No skin off my butt!

Is this the new Y2K?

Somehow they’ve managed to keep safely flying in European countries which have already debuted their 5G service. A tempest in a teapot…

Yeah, Y2K....

R7 This is not about the 5G roll out which is in use in most of the world, the issue is that cellular systems are now being licensed in a new frequency band between 3.6 and 4.0 GHz - the so-called C band. This is not used at the same power in other countries so you cannot compare it.

r5 how kind of you.

r7 In Europe they have boundaries which is what is keeping them safe. We don't have any or few that are not enough which is why they are complaining.

If push comes to shove tell the phone companies to fuck themselves. We don't need massive disruption so someone can download a music video 20 seconds faster. The real question is why is this just now being discussed?

Greedy phone companies willing to risk peoples' lives.

Thank you R9 for giving us CORRECT information, as opposed to MISinformation, like the idiot at R7 who is talking out of his ass.

R13 Thanks, I had to look it up myself to better understand the situation and avoid jumping to conclusions.

This is not new and the airlines and FAA were aware of this and had sufficient time to address any potential issues, this is not some nefarious action out of the blue by cell carriers.

A 2 mile buffer zone will be in effect at 50 airports as per the FAA.

For more details check out the link.

Emirates, Japan Airlines, Air India and All Nippon cancel Boeing 777 flights to some US cities over 5G safety fears despite AT&T and Verizon halting rollout

Emirates is canceling flights to Boston, Chicago, Dallas Fort Worth, Houston, Miami, Newark, Orlando, San Francisco and Seattle indefinitely

The airline's flights to JFK, L.A.X and Dulles International Airport are all still operating

Japan Airlines has canceled three cargo flights and five passenger flights; All Nippon has canceled 20

Air India is not operating between Delhi and JFK, Chicago or San Fran, or between Mumbai and Newark

5G is up and running in other countries in Europe but it is operating at a lower frequency which doesn't pose as much of a risk to airlines

The CEOs of major US airlines had warned of mass chaos if the towers were switched on, which they said would force them to cancel thousands of flights

ATT and Verizon responded with a glib statement saying the laws of physics are the same in every country. But apparently even the towers in Europe are aimed down vs up in America. Not sure what pilots from every airline would get by making this up.

Tomorrow is D-Day.

We'll see what happens.

I think Pete should lose his job over this.

WTF is he actually doing?

Is this the same “interference that could affect the sensitive safety equipment on their planes” that had us convinced that if we didn’t put our phones on airport mode while onboard the plane, the whole thing would instantly go down in a fiery mass of molten metal and we’d all die?

Yeah. Uh huh.

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[quote] Even Pete could understand it.

Don't be so sure.

I think we've grossly over estimated his abilities.

[quote] The CEOs of major US airlines had warned of mass chaos if the towers were switched on, which they said would force them to cancel thousands of flights

What does mass chaos mean? Are planes going to fall out of the sky?

[quote] What does mass chaos mean? Are planes going to fall out of the sky?

The airlines are going to CANCEL flight, numbnuts.

Are you really that stupid?

R21 Meaning pilots will refuse to fly to those cities. Even if a minority of crew aren’t available due to weather, strikes, or covid, it affects the entire system. I would call those videos of passengers sleeping in airports and throwing around line stantions chaos.

Why can't they just upgrade the planes with the old equipment?

Why should the airlines have to pay for the upgrade?

It's Verizon and AT&T who are causing the problems.

And you're talking BILLIONS of dollars for the so-called "upgrade."

More than likely the federal government would have to pay for it, as it does with a lot of airline industry sfuff.

The big problem is the auction of the frequency without fully researching the issue. The corporate friendly department.

Buttigieg is an expert in nothing. And once again another mess proves it. And yesterday Pete does what Pete loves---bragging about the job he is doing. Guess he doesn't shop because store shelves are empty..

That's why I'm not gettin' the jab. Hillary and Joe want to inject me with C-Band 5G.

You Pete haters should know that Pete isn't in charge of the FAA, or the FCC.

The government, the Trump government sold the phone companies this bandwidth, those companies paid billions of dollars to the government for the use of that bandwidth and now can't fully use them.

[quote] You Pete haters should know that Pete isn't in charge of the FAA, or the FCC.

Then why did the CEOs of the airlines send Pete the letter? Just for fun?

NO , you fucking idiot!!

It's because he's the Transportation Secretary and doing JACK SHIT about anything,except self promotion, you apologist asshole!!!

We're fucked.

Airline CEO's are your excuse, they are no brighter than you apparently. We all know 5 G has been coming for years and the airlines did nothing to prepare. You must be looking in a mirror when you said, you fucking idiot!!

The president of Emirates has slammed the 5G fiasco as the 'most delinquent, irresponsible' mess he has seen in his 50-year aviation career and blamed it on Transport Secretary 𝑷𝒆𝒕𝒆 𝑩𝒖𝒕𝒕𝒊𝒈𝒊𝒆𝒈, 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒂𝒚𝒔 𝒌𝒏𝒆𝒘 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒊𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒏𝒅𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒐𝒔 𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒘𝒂𝒓𝒏 𝒂𝒏𝒚𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒑 𝒊𝒕.

AT&T and Verizon launched their 5G network across America on Wednesday morning, switching on 4,500 towers to bring faster wireless to their customers. They had to hold back on ten percent of the towers - 500 - that are near airports because the frequencies the towers emit could interfere with the signal on some planes.

Fifty airports have buffers to protect against it but some major airports like Denver, Atlanta, Boston, Memphis, and Houston do not.

On Wednesday, some airline passengers who were unaware of the fiasco showed up at airports ready to board their flights but were told they had been canceled.

Sir Tim Clark, the president of Emirates, appeared on CNN, Wednesday that American airlines knew about the risks before the rest of the world, and that it forced them to scramble to cancel flights then bring them back once it was safe.

American airline CEOs - who have lucrative contracts with the government - are praising it for reaching a negotiation with the telecoms giants, and reserving all criticism of why it took so long.

'Let the truth be known, we were not aware of this until yesterday morning to the extent that it was going to compromise the safety of operation of our aircraft and just about every other 777 operator to and from the United States and within the United States. It came to a head, it was known by the US operators probably a little bit more than we knew.

'We have evidence of letters being written to the Secretary of Transport in the US government alerting that group to what was likely to happen and its consequences.

'I need to be as candid as I normally am and say this is one of the most delinquent, utterly irresponsible issues, I've seen in my aviation career because it involves organs of government, manufacturers, science,' Clark said.

#FIREPETE

Pete is doing fuck all!!!

useless cunt.

makes gay people look bad!

The auction of this bandwidth was widely publicized when it happened. If the airlines were operating on a frequency so close as to cause problems they could have bid on it and preserved the status quo.

All radio frequencies in the US are public property and I just don’t think the airlines should be able to freeload off of the American public.

If there is blame in all this, I will blame the providers. Verizon is about as trustworthy as a broke crack whore watching your house for the night.

Oddly, how does it work that all these other countries have 5G and miraculously have flights going in and out for years? Verizon and their fucking lowlife telecom pals for government money; this is a concerted shakedown of the federal government.

Canada has had 5G since 2020 and is not affected.

R30 you are nuts

R$6 the airlines couldn't have come up with the money just to not use the frequency. No investors would do that. It's not realistic.

[quote]It's because he's the Transportation Secretary and doing JACK SHIT about anything,except self promotion, you apologist asshole!!!

Oh, OP, take some Nervine.

r30 is OP, r39.

Fuckityfuckfuck.

R35 = You think Pete is bad? You should check out Chastens useless twitter feed. Filled with meaningless dribble. You would think Chasten was a teacher for ten years instead of the paltry months he actually racked up in Hillbilly Indiana. Chasten is a stereotype of his entire generation. Sitting on his ass all day and just re-tweeting stupidity. You know what monumental achievement Chasten accomplished on World Aids Day? A re-tweet. Tweeting is not an accomplishment. Getting a fucking JOB would be a good start for lazy Chasten.

These telecom firms have congress/all the politicians in their pockets. They write their own legislation, slanted hopelessly in their favor, that is passed because they paid for it. This is what it's come to.

There is nobody steering this ship. I'm disgusted.

It will be airline lobbyists v telecom lobbyists. I don't plan to fly any time soon.

Soooooooooooooooo everyone has survived the 5G onslaught have they?