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Europe says: Start Treating Covid like the Flu.

Including hottie Spanish socialist PM Sanchez.

(IFHH, btw)

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by Anonymousreply 66January 13, 2022 10:05 PM

Xi'an didn't get the message

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by Anonymousreply 1January 12, 2022 12:18 PM

Fauci says everyone is going to get omicron.

[quote]The omicron coronavirus variant will infect “just about everybody” regardless of vaccination status, top U.S. infectious-disease expert Anthony S. Fauci said Tuesday.

[quote]But those who have been vaccinated will “very likely, with some exceptions, do reasonably well,” and avoid hospitalization and death, said Fauci, speaking at a virtual “fireside chat” with the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

(no interest in FHH)

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by Anonymousreply 2January 12, 2022 12:19 PM

Lowering expectations about the government's ability to protect us. I wonder why.

by Anonymousreply 3January 12, 2022 12:23 PM

I think I read that the US has 25% of the world's Omicron cases

by Anonymousreply 4January 12, 2022 12:24 PM

Omnicron should be treated like the flu in Europe. If there is something worse to come next summer, we can go back to more restrictions but what's going on now is de trop.

by Anonymousreply 5January 12, 2022 12:24 PM

[quote]Including hottie Spanish socialist PM Sanchez.

So treat it like the Spanish flu?

by Anonymousreply 6January 12, 2022 12:26 PM

It is the flu, but now more like a cold if you’re vaxxed.

by Anonymousreply 7January 12, 2022 12:29 PM

everything will be turned over with the next variant

by Anonymousreply 8January 12, 2022 12:33 PM

What do you mean "turned over"?

by Anonymousreply 9January 12, 2022 12:34 PM

I had it last weekend. It was like a very mild flu (headache, sniffles, tired). Gone in 3 days.

I'm vaxxed.

by Anonymousreply 10January 12, 2022 12:37 PM

150K people have died of Omicron in the UK so it's definitely not "just like the flu" and I can't imagine it should be treated as such, but governments don't want their economies to collapse, so here we are.

by Anonymousreply 11January 12, 2022 12:40 PM

So essentially if you die, so sad too bad.

by Anonymousreply 12January 12, 2022 12:43 PM

[quote]150K people have died of Omicron in the UK

Source? That figure doesn't make sense

by Anonymousreply 13January 12, 2022 12:43 PM

[quote]if you die, so sad too bad

Would you feel better to die of a heart attack or an airplane crash?

by Anonymousreply 14January 12, 2022 12:46 PM

Probably because I misread the article, r13.

The Omicron surge caused TOTAL deaths to go above 150K, sorry. I'll keep looking for actual Omicron-only stats. Not sure there are any yet.

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by Anonymousreply 15January 12, 2022 12:46 PM

R11 has 3rd grade reading comprehension.

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by Anonymousreply 16January 12, 2022 12:46 PM

Omicron can't be treated like the regular flu until it stops filling up hospitals.

by Anonymousreply 17January 12, 2022 12:50 PM

Foochie says it’s just the sniffles. Me no scared.

by Anonymousreply 18January 12, 2022 12:55 PM

Its over, Bitches.

by Anonymousreply 19January 12, 2022 1:02 PM
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by Anonymousreply 20January 12, 2022 1:03 PM

R20 isn't a big part of the problem that everyone testing positive has to quarantine for 5+ days? From what I read that's a big part of the hospital's 'overwhelmed' problem. Too many doctors and nurses out.

Likewise, that's a big problem with airlines flights cancelled and no bread on store shelves.

by Anonymousreply 21January 12, 2022 1:07 PM

Of 12 regions of France only 2 have ICU beds over capacity.

by Anonymousreply 22January 12, 2022 1:10 PM

re staff shortages

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by Anonymousreply 23January 12, 2022 1:11 PM

[quote]I had it last weekend. It was like a very mild flu (headache, sniffles, tired). Gone in 3 days.

Bully for you. Not everybody's so lucky.

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by Anonymousreply 24January 12, 2022 1:18 PM

Our masters want us back at work bitches!

by Anonymousreply 25January 12, 2022 1:29 PM

Sure, R24. Some unfortunate people (probably obese or with co-morbidities) get very sick from it. Likewise, such people sometimes develop pneumonia and die from the common cold or the flu.

by Anonymousreply 26January 12, 2022 1:29 PM

R12 What was the motto before?

by Anonymousreply 27January 12, 2022 1:30 PM

Thanks for the pic of Rehoboth Beach OP. I haven’t thought of that place in ages. Ah, memories of being young and carefree.

by Anonymousreply 28January 12, 2022 1:49 PM

West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice, vaxxed and boosted, feeling "extremely unwell at this point" after being infected.

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by Anonymousreply 29January 12, 2022 1:51 PM

I'm vaxxed and boosted and pretty sure I have it, but we've run out of tests around here so I'll never know. I'm easily winded but so far no pulse ox reading below 95.

by Anonymousreply 30January 12, 2022 1:53 PM

I’m on day three of Covid, vaxxed and boosted. Feels shitty when i wake up, but when i take cold medication and move around it just feels like sinuses, a malaise and congestion. Hope it goes soon.

by Anonymousreply 31January 12, 2022 1:59 PM

Sorry, R30. The lack of tests is ridiculous. Hope your symptoms resolve quickly.

by Anonymousreply 32January 12, 2022 2:00 PM

Same here, r31. I get up, hydrate, take some cough syrup and ibuprofen, and after a couple of hours I start to feel more normal.

by Anonymousreply 33January 12, 2022 2:01 PM

So the "vaccines" don't really work. What other vaccines are touted as being effective when they don't prevent contracting the disease but supposedly provide for milder symptoms? Measles? Polio? No. Remember when this all started 2 years ago and we were told that COVID affects everyone differently and that you could have it and be asymptomatic? Kind of like of like if you're "vaccinated" and still get it? The "vaccines" are medically worthless. COVID response, however, has proven to be a financial windfall of epic proportions.

All this for a disease with a miniscule death rate. "You want my grandma to die!" Complications from the "vaccine" that cause death, though, are acceptable for the greater good.

by Anonymousreply 34January 12, 2022 2:06 PM

The vaccines work, troll r34. Go away, cockroach.

by Anonymousreply 35January 12, 2022 2:07 PM

[quote]What other vaccines are touted as being effective when they don't prevent contracting the disease but supposedly provide for milder symptoms?

Flu. Pneumonia. Whooping Cough. Chicken Pox. Shingles. Rotavirus.

Shall I go on?

by Anonymousreply 36January 12, 2022 2:15 PM

If it’s as deadly as the flu then yeah but it’s not there yet.

by Anonymousreply 37January 12, 2022 2:23 PM

We don't seem to have any evidence as to how deadly it is yet, r37. You say there's evidence showing it's less deadly than seasonal flu? Got a link?

by Anonymousreply 38January 12, 2022 2:24 PM

Yes, R36, and please provide proof.

by Anonymousreply 39January 12, 2022 2:25 PM

[quote]—fellow Covid Mary

i was told we get a T-shirt or something, but was just told they might not have my size, fucking supply chain nonsense again. . .

by Anonymousreply 40January 12, 2022 2:25 PM

We’re all gonna die from the next variant released from the Chinese. Enjoy your life! It’s not going to be a long one. The vaccines will kill you in a few years anyway.

by Anonymousreply 41January 12, 2022 2:27 PM

more americans are saying - DONE

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by Anonymousreply 42January 12, 2022 2:27 PM

What is there to do in Europe except to continue to push vaccination and booster shots and to treat Covid similarly to serious periods of flu infection?

In Spain, 92%+ of the eligible population (over age 5) has been vaccinated and booster programs continue. Covid infections are at an all time high despite vaccination, yet because of those same high vaccination rates there are 2200 serious/critical cases of 2.3M active cases. Deaths, hospitalizations, and serious cases are very low. But every country has seen rises in infections followed by sharp declines, in waves according to the new variant form. What has changed is the deadliness and the reach of severe cases of the disease. Vaccination hasn't stopped things in their tracks, but it has made a huge difference; it has meant that things have not ground to a halt. It's as R36 notes, not a cure but a lessening of symptoms as with flu vaccines, etc.

Of course it's not back to normal yet. For some vulnerable people it's a grave concern still, and it should be of no concern to no one. I've been vaccinated, boostered, wear a mask in indoor public places (and now outdoors again at all times if for no compelling medical reason.) And I will continue to follow advised precautions, happily or rather happily enough. It just seems a time at which to consider whether perfect is the enemy of the good. There's no law against an abundance of caution and staying home until Covid is pronounced officially "over", ordering in from Amazon and Ubereats and Netflix for the duration if one is inclined. For most of us a reasonable precaution in mitigating a disease that presents serious risk to few vaccinated people is the more sensible route.

by Anonymousreply 43January 12, 2022 2:28 PM

R34 reads like he did his own "research". When I hear people talk like that I never know how to respond to that. It's so easy to get into a rabbit hole once you start picking apart those statements. At some point I made the decision to not get into it anymore and let the brain diarrhea let run its course.

R34, I wish you well and hope that you don't suffer from Covid. And if you do, I wish you a speedy recovery.

by Anonymousreply 44January 12, 2022 2:29 PM

It might be worth noting that "Europe" doesn't say anything. Spain said it, not Europe. Health care is not only a national (in contrast to EU) responsibility. Often enough it's even just a regional responsibility, for example in countries with strong regional governments like Germany (as opposed to France for example). Makes managing a pandemic quite difficult, as also can be seen in the US.

by Anonymousreply 45January 12, 2022 2:33 PM

I tested positive for Covid on Monday. I'm vaxxed and boosted. For me, it's like a mild cold with fatigue and I credit the vaccine for my response. Honestly, If I wasn't quarantined, I feel like I could easily carry on with a normal day.

by Anonymousreply 46January 12, 2022 2:40 PM

What a measured and civil post, R43.


I agree with most of what you said. My own tolerance for risk is maybe higher than yours. I've had omnicron and it was no big deal. I'm in good physical shape. I'm ready to resume my normal life (dining out, traveling, going to movies, etc.). And I have. I think Covid will be an endemic disease, and I'm not ready to be a shut in like my poor 90-year old mother.

by Anonymousreply 47January 12, 2022 2:53 PM

"Omicron can't be treated like the regular flu until it stops filling up hospitals."

Invariably with unvaxed individuals. Fuck those selfish whores.

by Anonymousreply 48January 12, 2022 2:57 PM

indeed. they make it impossible for the rest of us

by Anonymousreply 49January 12, 2022 3:41 PM

[quote]So the "vaccines" don't really work.

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by Anonymousreply 50January 12, 2022 4:04 PM

that's pretty impressive

by Anonymousreply 51January 12, 2022 4:11 PM

R15 5,000 people have died in the UK since 1st December, so that's likely to be the total number of Omicron deaths so far.

by Anonymousreply 52January 12, 2022 4:19 PM

Covid Marys - do you have a sense of where you got it from? Or is it impossible to say?

Feel better. I’m sorry you feel shitty :(

by Anonymousreply 53January 12, 2022 4:31 PM

two possibilities, if the incubation period was VERY short then I went to a bar, had a martini with one friend (who just recovered from covid) and only we and the bar server were in the space, though I did walk through the crowded room in the bar, that was friday

or I got it from a student, I teach kids, they are petri dishes. but we always wear masks and I even double mask, still not out of the question.

I started having symptoms, very slight, on sunday

by Anonymousreply 54January 12, 2022 4:38 PM

My partner works at a factory r53 and he brought it home thanks to the anti-vax shitheads he works with. I haven't left the house for about three weeks (well, I mean besides yard work and stuff) so I didn't pick it up anywhere. Partner's symptoms were really mild.

by Anonymousreply 55January 12, 2022 4:42 PM

R55, Your partner could have caught it from someone who is vaccinated. Vaccinated people are spreaders of Covid the same as the unvaccinated.

by Anonymousreply 56January 12, 2022 4:53 PM

No idea, R53.

Could have been the gym, or work, or the market (despite wearing masks in all 3). My partner got it too, so maybe I got it from him. Anyway, neither one of us was very ill.

by Anonymousreply 57January 12, 2022 5:06 PM

There's a mask mandate at work but the anti-vaxxers won't wear them, r56, and the company doesn't push it because the supervisors are scared of how unhinged these redneck loons behave when asked to do something like wear a mask.

If you want to defend anti-vax anti-mask rednecks at a company you don't even know the name of, go ahead, but I don't know why you'd care.

by Anonymousreply 58January 12, 2022 5:09 PM

not to beat a dead horse, but it's not just Spain

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by Anonymousreply 60January 12, 2022 11:12 PM

Still waiting, R36.

by Anonymousreply 61January 13, 2022 1:01 PM

Cry harder, R61.

Mayo Clinic: "Flu vaccination has been shown in several studies to reduce severity of illness in people who get vaccinated but still get sick."

Johns Hopkins: "It should be noted that vaccination does NOT reduce pneumonia. A meta-analyses shows no decrease in pneumonia incidence as a result of vaccination, however it has been shown to be about 60-70% effective in preventing invasive disease (meningitis, bacteremia). "

WA State Dept. of Health: "Sometimes when vaccinated people are exposed, they get whooping cough anyway, although they usually have milder symptoms, a shorter illness, and may be less likely to spread the disease to others."

Medscape: "Breakthrough varicella (chicken pox), which is seen in previously immunized persons, is a well-known clinical entity. The disease course is typically much milder than conventional primary varicella.."

Healthline: "People who had the shingles vaccine had 51 percent fewer cases of shingles. For people 50-59 years old, the shingles vaccine reduced the risk of shingles by 69.8 percent. People who received the shingles vaccine generally had less severe cases of shingles."

Vaccine Knowledge Report: "Some babies who are vaccinated will still get rotavirus infection, but the disease is usually milder."

by Anonymousreply 62January 13, 2022 1:18 PM

Get your vaxx

by Anonymousreply 63January 13, 2022 2:19 PM

Switzerland cut the quarantine in half. They hinted they want to soon require "self judgement self control" and no official quarantine issued by government agency.

by Anonymousreply 64January 13, 2022 4:08 PM

wonder why?

by Anonymousreply 65January 13, 2022 6:43 PM

Probably b/c keeping people out of work even if asymptomatic for 5-10 days is bringing the the world to a grinding halt.

by Anonymousreply 66January 13, 2022 10:05 PM
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