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Will Novaxx get to stay and play the Australian Open?
|by Anonymous||reply 601||January 13, 2022 5:09 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||January 11, 2022 5:26 PM|
You're a doll, OP. Unlike NoVaxxx, who is an evil cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||January 11, 2022 5:30 PM|
I am the one from the other thread who asked why they don't call Novax's bluff and test him for antibodies. Thank you to the poster who drafted the response explaining why that is ultimately unnecessary. Very helpful post.
There are more holes in Novax's visa application than swiss cheese. Lies, more lies and falsified documents.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||January 11, 2022 5:32 PM|
I really hope he'll have to leave Oz. People there have endured a lot these past two years -- only to be graced with a completely loon who doesn't give a fuck about anybody but himself.
He can go fuck himself. With a tennis racket, if he likes that.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||January 11, 2022 5:33 PM|
Thread for the more technical minded of you about the odd dates for the tests:
|by Anonymous||reply 5||January 11, 2022 5:33 PM|
It is so obvious that he's lying about COVID and the government is helping him. Corruption at the highest level and I hope they all pay for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||January 11, 2022 5:37 PM|
Are they really investigating him for lying on the immigration form?! I hope so (crossing all fingers and toes)
I was read that --giving “false or misleading information” is a “serious offense” and, if he is convicted, could come with a jail sentence of up to 12 months.
I mean, they have to investigate right? So many news outlets are saying he was in spain etc when he said he wasn't on the forms.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||January 11, 2022 5:42 PM|
Australian Border Force investigating whether Djokovic lied on entry form
From CNN’s Angus Watson in Sydney, Australia
The Australian Border Force (ABF) is investigating whether Novak Djokovic submitted a false travel declaration ahead of arrival in Australia, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.
Djokovic declared he had not traveled and would not do so in the 14 days leading to his arrival in Australia on Wednesday January 5, according to a travel declaration submitted as evidence to the court determining whether he would be allowed to remain in Australia.
Various pictures taken during that two-week period appear to show Djokovic in both Spain and Serbia.
While court documents show that Tennis Australia filled out the travel declaration on Djokovic’s behalf, the information used was provided by Djokovic, an ABF officer at Melbourne airport on January 5 determined.
The penalty for submitting a false travel declaration carries a maximum penalty of 12 months prison, according to the Australian Department of Home Affairs website.
Djokovic’s media team has not responded to CNN’s requests for comment.
The ABF investigation comes as Australian Immigration Minister Alex Hawke considers whether to exert his personal power to cancel Djokovic’s reinstated visa.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||January 11, 2022 5:50 PM|
Do are they deporting this douche or not?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||January 11, 2022 5:51 PM|
* so *
|by Anonymous||reply 10||January 11, 2022 5:52 PM|
R9 It's awaiting the decision of immigration minister Alex Hawke... He is probably frantically conducting focus groups and deciding whether the fall out with Serbia is worth it. Lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||January 11, 2022 5:54 PM|
“Fall out with Serbia”? Are they going to raise tariffs on kangaroo skins?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||January 11, 2022 5:56 PM|
I hope they hurry up and give him the boot. Anti-vaxxers will take it as a huge win if they don't.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||January 11, 2022 5:56 PM|
Here's a picture of Alex Hawke so you can judge if he's hot or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||January 11, 2022 5:57 PM|
He is NOT, R14.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||January 11, 2022 5:57 PM|
the Australian Open draw comes out on Thursday so I imagine they'd have to decide sometime on Wednesday whether to kick him out or not
it'd be even crazier if the draw came out first and then they decided to deport him lol
damn I hope he doesn't get to play. With each day more and more lies of his are exposed
|by Anonymous||reply 16||January 11, 2022 6:06 PM|
When are they excepted to make this decision? I want to know now!!
|by Anonymous||reply 17||January 11, 2022 6:08 PM|
Another option for the Aussies to boot him would be running his PCR tests at a high cycle threshold Ct of 35+ virtually guaranteeing a "positive" result. Hasta la vista.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||January 11, 2022 6:13 PM|
Hawke looks like Dan Jansen.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||January 11, 2022 6:15 PM|
One racist frau was explaining to the other racist fraus on previous thread the Balkan cascade of trash, and it went like this: "It's a sort of Balkan cascade of trash. Slovenia and Croatia are a little higher, the smaller states in the middle then Serbia and Bulgaria are core trashy, with Romania and Albania even trashier at the bottom."
Besides the fact that it takes a trash to call others trash, particularly one whole peninsula (because Balkan is a peninsula), I must add that lady knows un cazzo about geography (or even less).
First of all, Slovenia is not on Balkans. It is a central European country. It was part of Yugoslavia, but has never been on Balkan peninsula. The westernmost Balkanic country is Croatia. Then further east is Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Kosova, Albania, North Macedonia, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria and European part of Turkey. I have seen maps including Slovenia on the peninsula, but it is wrong, because peninsula is a geographical term, not political, so Slovenia which was a part of socialist Yugoslavia is not situated on it, while Greece, who was part of capitalist Europe is.
I am from Croatia, and I will leave the decision which one of us is bigger trash to little DL fascists, but only an ignorant will call call Romania, a country which is home to Cioran, Eliade, Ionesco, Brancusi and the greatest contemporary European filmography bottom of Balkan trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||January 11, 2022 6:22 PM|
Thanks for the lesson, Croatian.
Your hero is still a lying cheat.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||January 11, 2022 6:27 PM|
R20 Romania is definitely trashy. Whenever I hear about Romanian immigrants in my country it's usually about pickpocketing (worst stories I read is about them targeting pensioners) or sending out their poor kids to beg.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||January 11, 2022 6:27 PM|
the people of a country are reflections of their leaders. If people have decent leaders then the majority of the people are decent.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||January 11, 2022 6:32 PM|
R14 - Alex Hawke is handsome. I’d flip back and forth with him. But right now, I’m more concerned with his politics. He better come through, and chuck that lying Serbian fuck out of the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||January 11, 2022 6:32 PM|
R23 Au contraire, I think that people, at least majority choose their leaders.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||January 11, 2022 6:34 PM|
R15, get thee to an eye doctor. Hawke is handsome enough. And lose the CAPS….
|by Anonymous||reply 26||January 11, 2022 6:35 PM|
Now if only you could become fluent enough in English to rant coherently, Balki/R20.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||January 11, 2022 6:38 PM|
Alex Hawke (from Wikipedia):
Hawke is a personal opponent of same-sex marriage. He claimed that the family unit is the bedrock of society and that same sex marriage undermines that. He called for a conscience vote in parliament on the issue. He was reported to have abstained from the final vote on the Marriage Amendment (Definition and Religious Freedoms) Act 2017, which legalised same-sex marriage.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||January 11, 2022 6:39 PM|
The animosity towards Balkanic people is so strong in some western and central European states, the same as in US it is towards Mexican immigrants. They remind me so much of Trump and his wall. This is why I find so funny that many posters here are cursing right wingers and projecting their sentiments on them, while bashing Balkanics in the most xenophobic manner.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||January 11, 2022 6:41 PM|
R29 Nah, all we have to do is look at Djokovic's crazy father and fans. The Balkans are trash and still are trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||January 11, 2022 6:44 PM|
Thanks for posting this, R28.
OK, so were dealing with a bigoted prick. I hope the passage of same sex marriage in Australia still frosts his uptight ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||January 11, 2022 6:44 PM|
R21 clearly has no idea about Balkan ethnic loyalties.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||January 11, 2022 6:50 PM|
Not that this xenophobia is not understandable. People are afraid that Balkanic people will take their jobs, change their way of life, they are slightly darker, more impulsive and wilder.
And there are so many of them, keeping together, helping each other, at least the ones from ex Yugoslavia. My partner's brother started to work in Austria and he is thrilled. They have little Yugoslavia there, everyone wants to help him and take care of him, Bosnian girls competing to invite him home for dinners.
And probably the more xenophobic people are scared, but they really aren't that dangerous. Except the ones in organized crime, but it is a different story.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||January 11, 2022 6:57 PM|
Given his heritage, would Novaxx be cut or uncut?
Datalounge will be able to prosecute him with a clear and biased mind with that information.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||January 11, 2022 6:58 PM|
R34 The majority of men in Serbia are uncircumcised. That doesn't mean he is but that's the stat.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||January 11, 2022 7:03 PM|
Oh, the Croatian anti vax cunt has also found this thread.
Funny this anti vaxxer fuckwit now comes up with this ridiculous waffle about South Slavic brotherly love when only a couple of years ago, back in the 90s, Croats and Serbs were killing each other.
I guess as long they've got a common enemy (vaccine!!! the West!!! global developments!!!!), they love to fuck each other in their nationalist asses.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||January 11, 2022 7:06 PM|
Someone late on the previous thread asked how many Serbs live in Australia - around 75,000 out of a population of 25 million. But they predominantly live in Melbourne and are very vocal at AO time.
Someone else asked why they can’t be deported - because they’re Australians.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||January 11, 2022 7:10 PM|
I have no patience for xenophobia and don’t see why we need to bash Serbs in general when we have a very bashable Serb in particular to discuss. Keep in mind the people we’re seeing go nuts in favor of Novaxx online and in-person aren’t necessarily representative of their more interesting, elegant, and intelligent countrymen.
The time difference between Australia and the US makes this decision seem to really drag - but it does seem like we should hear a final decision soon. (Boot him out for gods sakes!)
|by Anonymous||reply 38||January 11, 2022 7:34 PM|
He should be kicked out! He lied on the immigration forms!
If they don't make an example of him, then every tom, dick and harry is gonna be doing the same and there will be chaos.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||January 11, 2022 7:49 PM|
I think 1 nuance in this situation that is going over some people's heads is that the Aussie government is right wing but pro-vaccination which is a big departure from the far right movements/voices across the world. So we're seeing a right-wing government get attacked by right wingers in the US, UK and elsewhere. There are also some apolitical people who are crazy antivaxxers too
|by Anonymous||reply 40||January 11, 2022 7:54 PM|
[quote]The majority of men in Serbia are uncircumcised. That doesn't mean he is but that's the stat.
The DL jury returns a guilty verdict, advising deportation forthwith.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||January 11, 2022 7:55 PM|
More love for Djoker...
|by Anonymous||reply 42||January 11, 2022 7:59 PM|
and for the Serbians this purely about nationalism and supporting their national "hero". If Djokovic were pro-vaccine and spoke out against antivaxxers they'd be praising him for that. There's no ideological stance with his Serbian fans except to support whatever he's saying or doing
|by Anonymous||reply 43||January 11, 2022 7:59 PM|
[quote] (because Balkan is a peninsula)
|by Anonymous||reply 44||January 11, 2022 8:01 PM|
Homophobic frau at R36 is disturbed by Balkanic men interfucking each other in the asses. The war is over and now it is time for some loving again.
But I think you are even more disturbed by the fact that Austria has become little Balkans. They love you more than you love them. A Croatian guy I know has moved to Vienna from Germany and he says it is great there after Germany, he felt at home immediately. I can't help you, you should build a wall like Trump.
Be happy that at least i won't come, I prefer the Mediterranean climate.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||January 11, 2022 8:26 PM|
R45 I love some hot Slavic guys and their hot asses, hun.
What I don't love are dumb cunts like you are, ti prkno.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||January 11, 2022 8:34 PM|
R46 I thought that was your problem, you like them and are bitter you can't have them. Bet they aren't crazy about some boring old Austrian frau. And please leave me out, I am not a bisexual you are looking for on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||January 11, 2022 8:41 PM|
Hey Croatian I’ve just realised that when I read your posts I do so in Borat’s voice. I’m not sure if it’s your intent but read as satire, they are hilarious!
If not they’re mostly unintelligible.
I’m not a bisexual Austrian frau but I’m sure you’ll call me that anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||January 11, 2022 8:44 PM|
R47 aka Croatian anti vax cunt, I'd fuck you to pieces, but you're too lame for my liking.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||January 11, 2022 8:46 PM|
R49 Hahaha, you are hilarious, I am not into playing with dildo holding aggressive fraus.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||January 11, 2022 8:49 PM|
R48 that loon's posts are just hilarious -- and the best bit about it is, he doesn't even realize how much he embarrasses himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||January 11, 2022 8:49 PM|
You got so frustrated you started to talk to yourself R48 and R51
|by Anonymous||reply 52||January 11, 2022 8:51 PM|
[quote] I am not into playing with dildo holding aggressive fraus.
R50, that's because you tend to shove all those dildos up your loose ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||January 11, 2022 8:52 PM|
R52, says of all people the Croatian saddo fuckwit with his several sock puppet accounts. LOL.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||January 11, 2022 8:53 PM|
It is not respectful for a lady to insult gay men for their sex habits on gay site R53
|by Anonymous||reply 55||January 11, 2022 8:55 PM|
You Balkans are where we get the word "balky" from!
Can we get back to the point? Is Novaxx going to get his ass thrown out?
I dont know how to make a poll -- can someone start taking bets? I don't think he will get tossed out now.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||January 11, 2022 8:55 PM|
R52 I can assure you that I’m not R51. It’s actually very easy to check, if you know how.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||January 11, 2022 8:56 PM|
Theres no way he wont play now. All this back and forth wont keep him from playing.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||January 11, 2022 8:57 PM|
R58, he doesn't.
And in case he does, his posts are even more embarrassing.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||January 11, 2022 9:06 PM|
Sorry, R57 -- R59 was for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||January 11, 2022 9:06 PM|
R60 haha, you silly bitch, get a grip and stop attacking people around.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||January 11, 2022 9:09 PM|
Well, R58, he won't play in case he has to leave the country ...
|by Anonymous||reply 62||January 11, 2022 9:10 PM|
R62 will he have to leave the country? Seems unlikely now.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||January 11, 2022 9:11 PM|
If he keeps on being a dick, I wouldn't put it past other important tournament organizers to exclude him from their tournaments.
Behaving like a spoilt, dumb brat, he ultimately harms nobody but himself. But he's too dumb and conceited to cognize that.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||January 11, 2022 9:14 PM|
He is so lucky that DL experts will tell him how to live his life.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||January 11, 2022 9:18 PM|
Instead of posting here, why don't you present hole to him, R65?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||January 11, 2022 9:24 PM|
Very detailed and damning review of Novaxx’s test results by experts in data.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||January 11, 2022 9:32 PM|
R58/R63 Stop begging us to reassure you that he's going to get to stay. The matter is still under review. If Hawke decides that he cares that NoVax lied and submitted fake documentation (w/ the cooperation of the Serbian government), he will be booted. If he decides that it's not worth the trouble, he'll stay. It's as simple as that.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||January 11, 2022 9:33 PM|
Not begging anyone and definitely not hoping he stays.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||January 11, 2022 9:44 PM|
Hawke as Minister for Immigration has the discretionary power to overrule the court’s finding and cancel Novaxx’s visa. He and Karen Andrews, the Minister for Home Affairs are the only ministers with those discretionary powers.
My guess is that Hawke is looking for any other reasons to kick Novaxx out, which he continues to serve up on a platter. If ND does get expelled it will create a shitstorm - you saw how the ND supporters went crazy when he was first released. Just imagine if that is reversed. There are quite a few fanatics in that crowd.
It’s Wednesday morning here now and as the draw is on Thursday I’d be surprised if we don’t get a decision within the next eight hours.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||January 11, 2022 9:56 PM|
Considering that rushing the decision to cancel his visa is what led directly to the quashing, I'm sure Hawke is going to take his time, draw be damned. He can be deported any time.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||January 11, 2022 10:15 PM|
R67 thanks for the linked article. Der Speigel is a reputable source and the Germans are nothing if not thorough!
|by Anonymous||reply 72||January 11, 2022 10:16 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 73||January 11, 2022 10:42 PM|
I hope I wake up to good news in the morning.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||January 11, 2022 10:56 PM|
Put him on a cargo ship, drop him off in Montenegro, he can walk the rest of way.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||January 11, 2022 11:04 PM|
R72, Der Speigel updated its story to note that the time stamp information it is relying on “may also indicate when the text was downloaded from the servers,” in which case its whole analysis is wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||January 11, 2022 11:08 PM|
Their findings indicate that, according to the ID numbers attached to the Serbian test results, the negative test was performed prior to the positive test and entered into the database. Not the other way around, as Djoković's lawyers claim and as the Serbian health documents would seem to indicate at first glance.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||January 11, 2022 11:10 PM|
Novax hates vaccines but loves juicing. What a dick!
|by Anonymous||reply 78||January 11, 2022 11:15 PM|
Djokotards debunked everything: the unix date timestamp only refers to the time and date the information was downloaded...ID is different because of different other lab. Simple and clear!
|by Anonymous||reply 79||January 11, 2022 11:17 PM|
R77, it suggests that but does not prove it. As R79 crudely puts it, the numbers could refer to IDs pre-assigned to specific test kits or they could be linked to different labs. It's a thin reed to base deportation on, if Hawke going to go for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||January 11, 2022 11:34 PM|
Why not use the blatantly clear violation of the agreement not to travel for 14 days?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||January 11, 2022 11:37 PM|
I'm going to bed and I expect to wake up to good news!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 82||January 12, 2022 1:09 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 83||January 12, 2022 1:10 AM|
The questions raised by Djokovic's tests are much more than just the time stamp, r80.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||January 12, 2022 1:37 AM|
the Aus federal govt is aware of the inconsistencies but obviously it's unclear yet whether they'll factor into Hawke's decision
|by Anonymous||reply 85||January 12, 2022 2:27 AM|
“As early as” Wednesday?!
|by Anonymous||reply 86||January 12, 2022 2:28 AM|
From an Aussie pollster:
|by Anonymous||reply 87||January 12, 2022 2:31 AM|
Hawke is still considering, according to this guy -
|by Anonymous||reply 88||January 12, 2022 2:32 AM|
He doesn't qualify for a medical exemption as a recent COVID infection (whether real or faked by the Serb government) is not a valid reason for one.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||January 12, 2022 2:35 AM|
He should not be there. Anyone else would have been deported by now.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||January 12, 2022 2:36 AM|
In Instagram statement, Novak Djokovic says that he found out his positive PCR test after he went to the children’s award event but *before* he did a photoshoot and interview with L’Equipe."
|by Anonymous||reply 91||January 12, 2022 2:38 AM|
R88, that sounds like he’s going to wait until the semifinals before he decides . . .
|by Anonymous||reply 92||January 12, 2022 2:41 AM|
BS, BS, BS.
He is shoveling more shit upon himself and should shut up if he is to have any hope of remaining. He lied about not traveling. He's lying about testing positive. He's lying about it all. It's not even the crime, it's the coverup.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||January 12, 2022 2:43 AM|
If Djokovic gets to stay, does that mean the Czech doubles player and the official will get to come back/sue the Aus government?
|by Anonymous||reply 94||January 12, 2022 2:44 AM|
If he gets to stay, then why should anyone who hasn't been vaxxed prevented from travelling to Australia? If they let him stay then they'd essentially be opening their borders to the unvaxxed etc...
Hopefully they get with it and deport him soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||January 12, 2022 2:46 AM|
He's blaming his agent for ticking the wrong box. Such a fucking coward.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||January 12, 2022 2:50 AM|
From Paul Sakkal of The Age. 'This post' refers to Djokovic's just released Instagram statement.
In this post, Djokovic claims he learnt of his positive test result after the children's tennis event has attended maskless on the 17th. But his sworn court affidavit said he was "tested and diagnosed" on the 16th, with positive result being returned about 8pm that evening
|by Anonymous||reply 97||January 12, 2022 3:01 AM|
Stepping on his dick again, I see.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||January 12, 2022 3:02 AM|
Did he just perjure himself?
|by Anonymous||reply 99||January 12, 2022 3:04 AM|
[quote] But his sworn court affidavit said
This contradiction would be a big deal in a US court and would especially piss off a judge who very publicly ruled for the liar. It could even hurt his lawyers. I’m not sure if the same is true in Australia.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||January 12, 2022 3:06 AM|
I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're going to lie, at least be good at it. Never lie in Court.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||January 12, 2022 3:10 AM|
I guess it hinges on when he was notified about his positive result R100. So the diagnosis might have been on the 16th but he may not have found out until the 17th, after the kid's tennis thing. But he still went and did that interview knowing he was positive by that stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||January 12, 2022 3:12 AM|
It's mid afternoon in Melbourne right now, you'd think they'd be reaching a decision soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||January 12, 2022 3:12 AM|
Some of the reporters are saying his legal team sent a new brief to the official making the decision, which could delay things until tomorrow. (Ugh)
|by Anonymous||reply 104||January 12, 2022 3:13 AM|
No. In court docs, he states that he was tested and notified on Dec. 16 at 8pm. On instagram, he's saying it's the 17th because otherwise it looks like he exposed kids to COVID. If he lied in his sworn affidavit, does that void the cancellation quash?
At what point will he finally admit that there was no positive COVID test in December? He let the Serbs invent one for him, he didn't think that he'd ever be stopped at the border and questioned on it, and the existence of the fake test was never supposed to be made public. He wasn't prepared for people to dig. It's so obvious that he's a scummy liar.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||January 12, 2022 3:17 AM|
I've never seen this level of furor (and rightfully so) around any tennis player, and I've been following tennis since Borg and Vilas. Novaxx had better be watching his back for a very, very, very long time.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||January 12, 2022 3:21 AM|
so they really might wait to decide until after the AO comes out with the draw? lol sometime on Thursday the draw will be made
|by Anonymous||reply 107||January 12, 2022 3:23 AM|
the IG post
|by Anonymous||reply 108||January 12, 2022 3:24 AM|
My mistake. On his insta lies, he says he got the positive result on Dec. 18, not 17. In court docs, he says he knew on the 16th.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||January 12, 2022 3:25 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 110||January 12, 2022 3:27 AM|
Don't Serbs and Croats technically speak the same language yet label them Serbian and Croatian?
|by Anonymous||reply 111||January 12, 2022 3:27 AM|
when he was interviewed by L'Equipe in December, they had no idea that he tested positive (if his claim is true)
and they were not allowed to ask him about vaccination lol
this is Trump-level in-your-face attempts at scamming! Putting all the info together we can see how he conspired with his team to avoid getting vaccinated and play the AO but the lies are so blatantly obvious. Quite shameless and it'll be a real shame if he gets away with it
|by Anonymous||reply 112||January 12, 2022 3:27 AM|
In May 2021, European news agency N1 reported that fake COVID-19 PCR results were able to be purchased in Serbia.
The news agency cited “sources at the Serbian government e-administration office” confirming a false PCR result bought by journalists on the black market was faked using Photoshop and a national personal ID number.
“I felt obliged to go ahead and conduct the ... interview as I didn’t want to let the journalist down, but did ensure I socially distanced and worse a mask except when my photograph was being taken,” he said of the December 18 interview, the day after he said he received a positive result. Related Article Novak Djokovic has admitted he attended an in-person interview and photoshoot while knowingly COVID-positive. Breaking Australian Open Novak Djokovic admits attending interview while knowingly COVID-positive
Robert Potter, co-CEO of cyber security firm Internet 2.0, confirmed there were inconsistencies between the timestamps in the documentation Djokovic presented to Border Force officials, and the URL linked to the QR code on one of Djokovic’s tests.
“I can’t interpret the medical implications but I’d say there is sufficient evidence to question the fidelity of his paperwork submitted to the Australian government relating to his positive test,” Mr Potter said.
“The time stamp contained within the QR code of his positive test does not match the paperwork as submitted. However, the timestamp of his negative test does match his submitted paperwork. As long as you are confident that the QR codes you have sent me for evaluation match those submitted to the Australian government, then I’m confident saying that Djokovic has legitimate questions to answer.”
German cyber group zerforschung also found that, according to the ID numbers attached to the test results, there are questions about the timing of Djokovic’s claimed positive result on December 16 and his claimed negative result on December 22. The identification number for the negative result is 50,000 numerations lower, suggesting it was recorded before the positive result.
“Based on these pieces of evidence, the most plausible explanation is that the positive test result was added to the official Serbian database on the 26th of December, and not on the 16th,” the IT experts told Der Spiegel.
Later on Wednesday morning (Australian time), the German cyber group said a “plausible explanation” for the timestamp discrepancy had come to light, but not for the discrepancy around the confirmation codes.
Pointing to web postings by Serbian users of the HackerNews forum, it was theorised that timestamps in the QR code and its linked URL were regenerated when the PDF was downloaded with a result. This could mean, for instance, that Djokovic or someone on his behalf re-downloaded one of his results on December 26.
“This explains the inconsistencies in the timestamps – but not in the confirmation codes – because they remain the same,” zerforschung wrote in a detailed blog post update and on Twitter.
“And the inconsistencies also exists in them. The confirmation codes are ascending, so the result from the 16th should have a lower number than the one from [the] 22nd. However, it is the other way around.”
Australian Border Force, Djokovic’s lawyers and Tennis Australia were contacted for comment.
In May 2021, European news agency N1 reported that fake COVID-19 PCR results were able to be purchased in Serbia.
The news agency cited “sources at the Serbian government e-administration office” confirming a false PCR result bought by journalists on the black market was faked using Photoshop and a national personal ID number.
The false document purchased by the investigative journalists, who were seeking to prove the ability to buy fake lab results, had the same Institute of Public Health of Serbia letterhead as the document provided by Djokovic. The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age does not suggest Djokovic purchased false test results.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||January 12, 2022 3:45 AM|
There are so many lies it's impossible to figure out what is really going on. I suppose it is too much to hope that they let him get out on court, get booed at introductions, and then pull him off court in front of the crowd and deport him.
I have defended him in the past and this is hugely disappointing.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||January 12, 2022 3:49 AM|
I've been posting a lot in this thread (and the other one) and I promise to stop, but why do I feel like a bomb is about to go off? The implications here are kind-of massive. Serbia's COVID testing database is compromised. If they are faking POSITIVE tests, they are also faking negative ones. Which Serbs have they covered for with fake test results, allowing them to travel and infect others? Nothing is to be trusted from those people. This is state-sponsored Russian doping all over again.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||January 12, 2022 3:54 AM|
The pressure he’s under must affect his performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||January 12, 2022 3:58 AM|
Serbs, Croats, Bosnians and Montenegrins all speak the same language called Serbo-Croat with minute regional variations and accents but fully intelligible across the four countries. The labels are all about ego but the reality is, there is no Serbian or Croatian language.
From previous thread:
[quote]It's a sort of Balkan cascade of trash. Slovenia and Croatia are a little higher, the smaller states in the middle then Serbia and Bulgaria are core trashy, with Romania and Albania even trashier at the bottom.
Saying Slovenia and Croatia are a little higher is like picking the best fast food restaurant the best ghetto or best trailer park. The Balkans (including Slovenia which is geographically not Balkan but former Yugoslavia, that gave us the national treasure that is "vairst letty" who lied about speaking 5 languages) are all trash. The culture is uncivil and uncivilized and openly racist that would make even the Proud Boys look enlightened.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||January 12, 2022 4:03 AM|
I wonder how this story is playing in Serbia's arch-enemy Croatia.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||January 12, 2022 4:08 AM|
Has this been posted yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 119||January 12, 2022 5:13 AM|
just saw a reporter based in Canberra talking to the BBC
he said it's unlikely there will be a decision today due to the new documents produced by Djokovic's lawyers
so that means it's quite likely the draw for the Australian Open will be made before Hawke's decision! Crazy
Hawke is taking so long because he doesn't want to be accused of not thoroughly reviewing the case
|by Anonymous||reply 120||January 12, 2022 6:12 AM|
so the draw ceremony starts at 3 PM Thursday local time which is 11 PM Wednesday night EST
meanwhile ooh they're looking at everything lol
|by Anonymous||reply 121||January 12, 2022 7:54 AM|
NoVax is possibly the worst athlete in tennis. He knew the rules, willingly and eagerly broke them, doubled down on his lies in Aussie Immigration COURT, and tried to cover his tracks on social media. Which personality disorder does he have? He really does not give a shit about anyone but himself and getting that GS record. He has given Australia and its people the middle finger like six times now. What the fuck is WRONG with this dude?
|by Anonymous||reply 122||January 12, 2022 7:58 AM|
He’s definitely the worst athlete in tennis. The debate is whether he is the worst athlete in any sport.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||January 12, 2022 8:11 AM|
Other sports are full of rapists and murderers and drug users and other cheaters, R123. It’s a tough row to hoe. We can’t even be sure he’s the worst person in this tournament—Zverev is there.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||January 12, 2022 8:20 AM|
True R124. I don't think Novaxx is a criminal in his horribleness. He's just so shady and entitled. Maybe others are just as bad, but he can't seem to hide it.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||January 12, 2022 8:32 AM|
I don't know how accurate this is or anything about the guy tweeting it so grain of salt and all that ....
|by Anonymous||reply 126||January 12, 2022 8:32 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 127||January 12, 2022 8:34 AM|
so likely they'll announce his fate just before the draw ceremony
very dramatic lol
|by Anonymous||reply 128||January 12, 2022 9:01 AM|
Unless it's for travel, you only get a PCR test if you have symptoms and think you may have caught Covid, in some cases if you've been exposed to someone with Covid. So, even if he didn't get the test results back until after he cuddled the little kids, he still would either have had symptoms or known he'd been exposed and should have been self-isolating anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||January 12, 2022 9:11 AM|
R126, I'm not falling for that shit again.
I've accepted that Novaxx is playing and I just hope the Aussie's make his tournament absolutely miserable.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||January 12, 2022 9:25 AM|
Damn it! Nothing yet. (I'm r82)
|by Anonymous||reply 131||January 12, 2022 9:37 AM|
I imagine the Government is wargaming it. The Serbians will be violent either way, either in protest to a deportation or when he is inevitably abused in the stadium. So that’s a given. Then, it’s about which voters are motivated and demotivated. For a conservative Liberal/National government they have to assume that most antivaxxers are also their supporters.
Reminds me a little of the Elian Gonzalez situation; either choice with spark politically damaging outrage and the key is which kind of damage is most manageable.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||January 12, 2022 9:49 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 133||January 12, 2022 9:55 AM|
If they deport him, he can't return to Australia for three years. The tennis authorities would have to decide how to respond to that, which they will hate of course - maybe remove the AO's slam status even?
|by Anonymous||reply 134||January 12, 2022 11:09 AM|
Funny how DL resident Croatian (?) anti vax cunt suddenly remains silent now that his hero has been exposed as a liar.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||January 12, 2022 11:10 AM|
Even if he ends up being deported, I have a strong sense that the three-year ban wouldn't be enforced.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||January 12, 2022 11:11 AM|
Timeline of the Idiotkovic case, pt 1
December 10: The deadline for applying for an exemption to participate in the Australian Open ends - for players who have not been vaccinated against the coronavirus. Only fully vaccinated players are allowed to compete.
Dec. 16: The unvaccinated Djokovic attends a Serbian Postal Service event in his home country. In the evening, he learns of his infection. The positive PCR result is in documents that his lawyers later submit to Australian authorities. Under rules in Serbia, CoV-positive people who do not have severe symptoms must be placed in home isolation for 14 days.
Dec. 17: Djokovic, who actually lives in Monaco, is a guest without a mask and without distance at an awards ceremony for young tennis players in Serbia's capital, Belgrade.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||January 12, 2022 11:13 AM|
December 18: He has an interview with photo shoot for the French sports newspaper "L'Equipe".
December 22: Djokovic has another test. Result according to his own information: negative.
Dec. 30: According to his lawyers, Djokovic receives an exemption for the Australian Open from the medical director of the Australian Tennis Federation.
Turn of the year 2021/2022: Footage on social networks shows Djokovic at a tennis club in Marbella, Spain.
January 5: Djokovic travels to Australia. Since, in the eyes of the authorities, he does not present the necessary documents for an exemption, he is refused entry. He is sent to a deportation hotel.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||January 12, 2022 11:14 AM|
If they can prove he lied to the court, then they might slap him with the full three-year ban.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||January 12, 2022 11:15 AM|
January 6: At a press conference in Belgrade, Djokovic's father compares his son to Jesus Christ: "Jesus was crucified, everything was done to him, and he endured it and still lives among us," Srdjan Djokovic said. "Now they are trying to crucify Novak in the same way and do everything to him."
Jan. 10: A Melbourne court grants Djokovic's appeal and allows him to enter the country. He is allowed to move freely. A few hours later, he is on the practice court.
January 11: It becomes known that Djokovic stated in his entry form that he had not traveled in the 14 days before the flight to Australia.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||January 12, 2022 11:16 AM|
January 12 Djokovic said he neither intentionally made a false statement about his travel behavior in the 14 days before flying to the Australian Open, nor did he attend an event with children in December knowing of his positive coronavirus test and move there without a mask. However, he admitted to breaking the coronavirus rules after the positive test and not staying in self-isolation - in fact, he even took an interview appointment.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||January 12, 2022 11:17 AM|
R117 Of course they are all trash.
You ere offering you wrinkly old ass all around the Balkans (Slovenia included) from Croatia to Turkey and no gang bang happened?!
You have got only yourself to blame. Remember what mama did when you were a kid and other kids didn't want to play with you because you were so ugly. She would put some meat on you so the dog would play with you.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||January 12, 2022 11:19 AM|
[quote]There are more holes in Novax
|by Anonymous||reply 143||January 12, 2022 11:21 AM|
The minister has discretion as to whether he would be banned, and, if so, for how long. It does not have to be for the full three years.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||January 12, 2022 11:34 AM|
This was in the tabloid The Tele:
"A government source said any move to relax the government’s Covid immigration rules and allow the world’s number one tennis player to stay in Australia would set a dangerous precedent.
The source said the government was prepared to weather an international backlash the decision would attract because it would be in the national interest and consistent with our “ongoing efforts to control the spread of Covid”.
Another source told the Herald Sun Djokovic’s case was “weakening by the day”."
--- I'm not sure how reliable The Tele is but that argument has always made sense to me from a legal point of view - if they let Djokovic enter Australia and stay, that would give other unvaccinated people a strong argument that they should be allowed the same. Plus all polling says that a majority want him deported. I feel a LITTLE bit more confident that the ministers will come to that conclusion.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||January 12, 2022 11:45 AM|
|He has to be put into a category, R144, which have the bans attached to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||January 12, 2022 11:47 AM|
Do you hate Luka Dončić too, or does being blonde help him get a better treatment?
|by Anonymous||reply 147||January 12, 2022 12:50 PM|
Who believes that a guy who is WAITING for positive PCR test which makes possible for him being in AO (when he shouldnt be because he i snot vaccinated ) and he doesnt care that he is positive or not?He didnt check it even once an hour? It was his only hope!. Of course he was not really sick, thats obvious.But whatever , right, he didnt care if he was going or not...
|by Anonymous||reply 148||January 12, 2022 1:10 PM|
It's ridiculous that having got covid recently was considered a valid reason to enter Australia in the first place because that gives people an incentive to catch covid.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||January 12, 2022 1:13 PM|
Why, r134? Is Novaxx even the biggest draw in tennis? He may be number 1, but he’s still lags behind Federer and Nadal largely due to his lack of charisma and low likeabiility.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||January 12, 2022 1:17 PM|
When Rafa visited DC this summer, people I know who don’t even follow tennis were interested in seeing him play and wondering where he’d go in town. I don’t think Novaxx would have anywhere near that effect despite his (arguable) status as the best.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||January 12, 2022 1:19 PM|
R150 But of course, how can be even considered to be a champion if a prissy queen like you doesn’t fancy him.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||January 12, 2022 1:19 PM|
If they wont ban him if all of this, I dont know how much many he sent to aussie gov
|by Anonymous||reply 153||January 12, 2022 1:32 PM|
*with all of this
|by Anonymous||reply 154||January 12, 2022 1:33 PM|
Doncic is vaccinated, R147, but as to whether he's received the blond treatment, only his Toni twin knows for sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||January 12, 2022 1:45 PM|
Journalists unaware Novak Djokovic had tested positive for Covid two days prior to interview
From CNN translator Josh Pennington
Two journalists working for French sports newspaper L’Equipe were not told Novak Djokovic was Covid-positive before, during or after a 33-minute interview with the tennis star in Belgrade on December 18, the outlet reported Wednesday.
Journalists Franck Ramella and photographer Etienne Garnier reported that Djokovic seemed “well,” despite it later emerging he had been diagnosed with Covid-19 two days prior.
Separately on Wednesday, Djokovic acknowledged he knew of the positive diagnosis at the time of the interview and apologized.
The L’Equipe article states Ramella has since tested negative to Covid-19, but it does not mention Garnier’s health.
Ramella told CNN he was en route to Melbourne to cover the Australian Open.
Djokovic, who is unvaccinated, is currently fighting to be allowed into Australia to compete in the tournament.
He applied for an exemption from Australian rules mandating that arrivals must be fully-vaccinated against Covid-19, using a positive test result on December 16 as evidence that he should be allowed into the country. Photos posted on social media show him unmasked at events in mid-December,
While Djokovic admitted Wednesday that he did not immediately isolate after testing positive for Covid-19, he denied knowing he had the virus when attending public events.
The French journalists' interview with Djokovic was conducted in Belgrade at the player’s Novak Center, L’Equipe reported.
“As we waited for about 90 minutes, the (masked) staff offered us an excellent assortment of sliced fruit. At last Djokovic arrived, all smiles, masked as well,” a CNN translation of the French language article reads.
It is unclear whether staff at the Novak Center knew of Djokovic’s positive diagnosis.
The article acknowledged that Djokovic kept his mask on for the duration of the indoor interview, but took it off when asked to pose for a professional photo without it.
“For thirty-three minutes, according to the timer on the recorder, Djokovic answered the questions with confidence. We were being safe, facing each other at a distance of nearly one meter, sitting on opposite sides of a long rectangular table. When Etienne asked him to remove his mask for five minutes during the interview, Djokovic refused,” the article reads.
“Then the photo session took place. Obviously, the Serbian champion removed his mask. We did not want him to pose with his face half-covered. Then he followed the instructions of Etienne, who was masked. He held the trophy at arm's length, moving from one position to another, smiling or grinning to show that he had won. He also shouted to make it even more genuine," the story continues.
The article was published just hours before Djokovic apologized for keeping the interview appointment despite being aware of his positive PCR diagnosis from a test done two days earlier.
“I felt obliged to go ahead and conduct the L’Equipe interview as I didn’t want to let the journalist down, but did ensure I socially distanced and wore a mask except when my photograph was being taken,” Djokovic wrote in a statement published on his social media accounts Wednesday.
“While I went home after the interview to isolate for the required period, on reflection, this was an error of judgement and I accept that I should have rescheduled this commitment.”
|by Anonymous||reply 156||January 12, 2022 1:52 PM|
Oh these dirty Balkanics.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||January 12, 2022 1:54 PM|
I think they'll let him in.
However, all other grand slam tournaments should make their tax rules unequivocal.
And why hasn't he fired the aide who make the "mistake" on his visa form? What a crock.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||January 12, 2022 2:03 PM|
[quote]However, all other grand slam tournaments should make their tax rules unequivocal.
A great Freudian slip considering all the Monagesque tax dodgers.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||January 12, 2022 2:05 PM|
I hope he loses a ton of sponsorships over this.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||January 12, 2022 2:07 PM|
R158 Instead of admitting he lied, he now throws his agent under the bus.I think that 'human error' should be enough for the Australian Immigration Minister to deport him, shouldn't it? if that hadn't been there, i think the govt would have gone along with the court ruling ...Anyway, doesnt matter it was human error or not , the informations on visa are not truth
|by Anonymous||reply 161||January 12, 2022 2:14 PM|
If only we on Balkans had that sense of what is right and just like you Americans. Sigh.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||January 12, 2022 2:19 PM|
His behavior doesn’t fit my image of Lacoste.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||January 12, 2022 2:23 PM|
But maybe he will fit the image of Dubioza, they can become his sponsors.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||January 12, 2022 2:24 PM|
If they have a good reason, they would have thrown him out by now. He’s staying.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||January 12, 2022 2:26 PM|
Or they are preparing their case and making sure it's watertight after the Border Force procedural fiasco. At least I hope so.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||January 12, 2022 2:27 PM|
Someone said way back in the other thread that another attempt to kick Novaxx out would also go through review by the same judge as before. We know from the hearing that judge was sympathetic to Novaxx “what more could he have done?!” and judgmental about the government not giving due process. So if that is true, the government is likely showing restraint and deliberation here, giving Novaxx’s team a full chance to submit its arguments, and will likely issue a very carefully reasoned explanation if they kick him out again.
And/or, they may be waiting until the last possible minute before the AO draw, so that Novaxx doesn’t have time to get himself back out of trouble again and the AO has to proceed without him.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||January 12, 2022 2:32 PM|
@DanClarkSports on twitter
Apparently a decision on #Djokovic's fate has been made this afternoon and is set to be announced tomorrow. By all reports, it's not good news for the 20-time Grand Slam winner
|by Anonymous||reply 168||January 12, 2022 2:35 PM|
Novak has behaved like a total a-hole and should be booted out of the country. He is also the ugliest Djokovic boy.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||January 12, 2022 2:39 PM|
His unvaxed self has been out and about in public for a few days now. There’s no health and safety reasons to ban him now.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||January 12, 2022 2:40 PM|
The health and safety reason is that if Australia accepts Novaxx’s arguments that (a) having Covid in the last six months constitutes a medical exemption to the vaccine requirement, and (b) that the government’s policy doesn’t permit it to enquire into the accuracy of a claimed medical exemption, this country that has worked very hard to contain the virus for two years could be flooded by unvaccinated fools that spread Covid.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||January 12, 2022 2:42 PM|
[quote]There’s no health and safety reasons to ban him now.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||January 12, 2022 2:42 PM|
R170 Czech woman has been there for 2 weeks and she was deported anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||January 12, 2022 2:43 PM|
Yes, and OK-ing a positive covid test is a terrible argument because it means that people will deliberately go out and try to get infected if that's accepted as a valid reason for entry.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||January 12, 2022 2:48 PM|
But Novak is tennis royalty
|by Anonymous||reply 175||January 12, 2022 2:49 PM|
R174 It’s valid but only for residents
|by Anonymous||reply 176||January 12, 2022 2:50 PM|
After all he’s been through, he better win the championship now.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||January 12, 2022 2:52 PM|
R167 Ooh, good point about waiting until the last minute - I didn't think of that. So he would presumably be detained again (?) and unless the sympathetic judge grants him some kind of emergency hearing, he would be unlikely able to get his case heard in time before the AO starts?
I believe that the first round matches commence January 17th so there's a weekend and court cases don't normally get held on weekends (?) The draw thing seems a bit of a red herring because I'm sure that they've re-done draws if someone drops out after it was taken.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||January 12, 2022 2:54 PM|
[quote]After all he’s been through
Cry me a river
|by Anonymous||reply 179||January 12, 2022 2:54 PM|
I believe the correct construction is after all he's put himself and us through, he'd better get deported.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||January 12, 2022 2:56 PM|
The open winner’s trophy will be tainted and devalued without Novak the GOAT
|by Anonymous||reply 181||January 12, 2022 2:59 PM|
It'll be even more tainted if Novaxx steals it.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||January 12, 2022 3:00 PM|
R181 What about when he was disqualified at the USO? Same thing, he broke the rules and should pay the price.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||January 12, 2022 3:00 PM|
Unless you are Aussie, what is it to you if he’s vaxxed or not ?
|by Anonymous||reply 184||January 12, 2022 3:04 PM|
"Deported doubles player frustrated by Djokovic decision: " Novak hired his lawyers so he had to also pay for this. I think this was the main issue why I couldn’t go [to] court and apply for the same.”"
|by Anonymous||reply 185||January 12, 2022 3:05 PM|
DLers after Novaxx’ ass, prime time
|by Anonymous||reply 186||January 12, 2022 3:05 PM|
Who wants to see second rated players in the open final ? Fans want Novax.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||January 12, 2022 3:05 PM|
R184 Because I'm vaxxed and have followed all the rules. Seeing this entitled brat not give a shit and getting away with it makes a mockery of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||January 12, 2022 3:06 PM|
I'm not a tennis player but after two years of this shit COVID-- which goes on and on and on-- it's because of all the selfish, irresponsible assholes who will not get vaccinated that we are still in the place. Whether he is a famous tennis player or an average Joe Covidiot, it bugs me. And it's yet another example of "rules for thee but not for me."
|by Anonymous||reply 189||January 12, 2022 3:08 PM|
The draw doesn't matter. Whoever gets Novax in the first round will get a walkover once he's detained and deported.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||January 12, 2022 3:08 PM|
R188 You can still be vaxxed and catch Covid, silly.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||January 12, 2022 3:08 PM|
R188 Then maybe you should take his place in the tournament.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||January 12, 2022 3:08 PM|
^the place=this place.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||January 12, 2022 3:09 PM|
At least he’s eager to play. Where is Roger the has been now ?
|by Anonymous||reply 194||January 12, 2022 3:10 PM|
R191 Vaccines don't prevent getting covid but they do prevent serious illness - most people in hospital with covid were not vaccinated, taking up resources and medical personnel attention from other sick people.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||January 12, 2022 3:10 PM|
r188 Gotcha... your seatbelt won't work unless Novak wears his.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||January 12, 2022 3:11 PM|
I am thinking they may pull him aside and give him two options: leave quietly now and we won't implement the 3-year ban, or we drag you out of here kicking and screaming and you won't be let back into AUS until 2025.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||January 12, 2022 3:12 PM|
R194 Federer is old for a tennis player at age 40 and is on the verge of retirement. That's why he isn't playing, because he knows he's not up to winning slams.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||January 12, 2022 3:12 PM|
Surely, Novaxx would take your bed in the luxurios appartment at some private clinic.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||January 12, 2022 3:13 PM|
R196 Again, no matter how healthy a person is, you cannot guarantee that they won't get covid seriously and end up in hospital, taking resources away from others. The rules are there for a reason - to prevent unvaccinated people from entering Australia and contributing to a contagion in hospitals.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||January 12, 2022 3:13 PM|
R199 Your argument is basically 'Novak is rich so he's better than you'. That doesn't wash, I don't consider him to be better than me nor above the rules.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||January 12, 2022 3:15 PM|
R200 he tested positive so he can’t be vaccinated for a little while
|by Anonymous||reply 202||January 12, 2022 3:15 PM|
R202 He does not want to get vaccinated point blank, so that's a moot point (even if he did actually test positive).
|by Anonymous||reply 203||January 12, 2022 3:17 PM|
R200 and does it matter ? Australia is already flooded with omicron cases
|by Anonymous||reply 204||January 12, 2022 3:17 PM|
He had nearly a year to get vaxxed and refused. He's an anti-vaxxer.
Also, he didn't test positive. The whole thing was a lie. You can't convince me otherwise.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||January 12, 2022 3:17 PM|
R204 Yes, it does matter. When there is a pandemic, Australia should prioritise their own citizens and residents. Djokovic does not pay tax in Australia.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||January 12, 2022 3:19 PM|
Doesn't it seem like the whole tournament is headed for a covid disaster? Players and staff are bound to start dropping like flies. If he had ANY sense (which he doesn't appear to have) he'd apologize and go back to Marbella. If he continues to play he'll be blamed for the entire epidemic. If he leaves now the blame will shift to Tennis Australia and the government.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||January 12, 2022 3:19 PM|
It’s just like at one stage when the US prevented HIV men from entering the country when the US itself has the most HIV cases.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||January 12, 2022 3:19 PM|
Being #1 ought to give you certain privileges anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||January 12, 2022 3:22 PM|
Oh please. I see the deluded Novaxx stan is back
|by Anonymous||reply 210||January 12, 2022 3:22 PM|
R209 Can't agree with that. The pandemic as well as many other laws aren't specific to tennis. Does being #1 in tennis give someone the right to drive drunk, for example?
|by Anonymous||reply 211||January 12, 2022 3:24 PM|
To the troll who has invaded this thread to turn this into a debate over getting vaccinated, that's not the only thing that's pissing us off about Djokovic. It's how he lied, covered his lies with more lies, threw his staff under the bus, feigned innocence, and continues his sociopathic ways with absolutely no remorse or concern about who he's infected in the process. At most he's given lip service to it when painted into a corner.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||January 12, 2022 3:24 PM|
R212. Oh please, you don’t know the whole truth
|by Anonymous||reply 213||January 12, 2022 3:26 PM|
So tired of this entitled, lying, smug bitch and all his drama. All he had to do was get a fucking vaccination. Hope they just send him home and move on with the tournament, and stop giving him all this attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||January 12, 2022 3:26 PM|
Looks like tennis journalists aren't pleased that Djokovic conduced a L'Equipe interview and photoshoot without telling them that he was covid positive.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||January 12, 2022 3:27 PM|
Novax can drop dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||January 12, 2022 3:27 PM|
Craig Tiley has to be fired. He is the reason this psycho is in Australia in the first place. He's gotta go.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||January 12, 2022 3:28 PM|
If he's telling the truth, he was covid positive when meeting those journos who then have to be vaccinated to travel to Australia. He is a real piece of shit if he did that because if he'd infected them, that takes work away from them.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||January 12, 2022 3:29 PM|
R216 You wish
|by Anonymous||reply 219||January 12, 2022 3:29 PM|
There should be more attention paid to the fact that L'Equipe agreed in advance not to ask questions about vaccination in the interview. That kind of handholding is how Novaxx gets away with all his bullshit.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||January 12, 2022 3:29 PM|
Novak is so hawt.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||January 12, 2022 3:30 PM|
R220 Yes, I have read that publications get stuck between a rock and a hard place because if they ask tough questions, they don't get access to the athlete or celeb. That's why there are a lot of puff pieces.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||January 12, 2022 3:31 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 223||January 12, 2022 3:31 PM|
At least Novak is not a sheep
|by Anonymous||reply 224||January 12, 2022 3:31 PM|
Believing in social media vaccine conspiracies over science is sheep-like.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||January 12, 2022 3:32 PM|
Won't be watching his matches or interviews. Prokkkovid scum are unworthy of any platform.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||January 12, 2022 3:34 PM|
Haha the ratings would hit the roof
|by Anonymous||reply 227||January 12, 2022 3:35 PM|
Craig Tiley knew what he was doing
|by Anonymous||reply 228||January 12, 2022 3:36 PM|
Can we all agree to stop replying to the Novax troll?
|by Anonymous||reply 229||January 12, 2022 3:37 PM|
R229 We know you don’t like debates, dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||January 12, 2022 3:38 PM|
Wow, is the Novaxx troll the Dear/Pet/White-Adjacent Troll from the royal family threads? What a twist!
|by Anonymous||reply 231||January 12, 2022 3:43 PM|
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||January 12, 2022 3:44 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 233||January 12, 2022 3:48 PM|
I think Craig Tilley might well be in some trouble once the immediate Novax situation subsides. He appears to have deliberately flouted the national rules for entry to Australia and conspired with the Djokovic camp to the point of ignoring his own rules (the 10 December deadline) . Then there are the 'two independent committees' we keep hearing about. As I understand it, these were set up and funded by Tennis Australia and aren't meaningfully independent at all, except in the limited sense that they are theoretically independent of each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||January 12, 2022 3:50 PM|
Yep: from the above article:
"The high number of vaccinated people in intensive care in NSW may appear concerning but it actually shows the jab is working.
Around 93 per cent of adults in NSW have now been fully vaccinated, leaving around 7 per cent of the population not entirely protected.
Despite making up a small proportion of the wider community, these 7 per cent now account for more than half of all ICU admissions.
“People making up a very small proportion of the at-risk population, are making up a large proportion of those in ICU,” Deakin University epidemiologist Professor Catherine Bennett told news.com.au.
If vaccination didn’t protect people from infection or hospitalisation, Prof Bennett said the ratio of vaccinated people in ICU would be the same as those in the general population: 93 per cent.
Instead the number in ICU is a lot lower, just 50 per cent in NSW.
Prof Bennett also noted that the 50 per cent figure was probably an overestimate as not everyone who is in ICU with Covid would have been admitted due to Covid. Some may have had accidents or other health issues requiring treatment but also happen to have Covid."
|by Anonymous||reply 235||January 12, 2022 3:51 PM|
I think Craig Tiley is doing a great job. The Open is in the headlines. Great publicity brings the ratings.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||January 12, 2022 3:52 PM|
Shouldn’t the independent committee have booted the application because it passed the December 10 deadline?
|by Anonymous||reply 237||January 12, 2022 3:53 PM|
R235 The fact remains that getting vaxxed doesn’t necessarily save you
|by Anonymous||reply 238||January 12, 2022 3:54 PM|
Twitter is a shitty place but I appreciate that procovid accounts are shut down.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||January 12, 2022 3:56 PM|
R232’s photo leaked.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||January 12, 2022 3:57 PM|
Oh my god! They are saying what we're all thinking.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||January 12, 2022 3:58 PM|
You have to admire the at least Novak ain’t a sheep.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||January 12, 2022 3:59 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 243||January 12, 2022 4:00 PM|
R242 Do I admire someone who believes that the earth is flat just because they aren't 'a sheep'?
|by Anonymous||reply 244||January 12, 2022 4:00 PM|
Stop feeding the goddamned troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||January 12, 2022 4:02 PM|
R241 I heard a different story.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||January 12, 2022 4:04 PM|
It's interesting watching mass formation psychosis at work in this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||January 12, 2022 4:05 PM|
As far as I can tell, the draw is coming out, for U.S. viewers, either this evening or early the next morning. They need to wrap this drama up.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||January 12, 2022 4:06 PM|
R246 aka anti vax cunt, fyi, hardly anybody in here speaks your shithole country language.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||January 12, 2022 4:07 PM|
R244 Majority believed earth was flat before it was proven otherwise
|by Anonymous||reply 250||January 12, 2022 4:08 PM|
Fuck that procovid idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||January 12, 2022 4:09 PM|
[quote]You have to admire the at least Novak ain’t a sheep.
Yes, I believe ass would be the better barnyard comparison.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||January 12, 2022 4:10 PM|
I hope they charge Novax with perjury.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||January 12, 2022 4:10 PM|
I find it absolutely delicious that "Novak" can so easily be styled as "Novax."
It's almost too perfect!
|by Anonymous||reply 254||January 12, 2022 4:13 PM|
The troll even typed 'Novax' upthread by mistake and it was hilarious. The trolls know the truth but are delusional, low-IQ stans.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||January 12, 2022 4:14 PM|
Kim Novax called.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||January 12, 2022 4:15 PM|
R255 You stupid woman, it is not by mistake, he was given this nick by Serbians. They are not humorless twatts like you lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||January 12, 2022 4:16 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 258||January 12, 2022 4:17 PM|
This is a different pro-Covid/pro-Djokovic (hey look, the anagram for Djokociv is 'Covid Jok') troll from Balki-Borat upthread. This one's has the argumentation skills of a sassy kindergarten girl, wheras the other was was more naive yet funnier.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||January 12, 2022 4:17 PM|
Ah, I stand corrected, the other one is back. He thinks all of us are American and calls everyone a woman who is trying to fuck him, kind of like AOC in reverse if she were a Croatian whore.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||January 12, 2022 4:18 PM|
^ They're the same person. One idiot, several accounts.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||January 12, 2022 4:19 PM|
R260 You would be a whore too, if anyone would want to fuck you. So far only daddy wanted to.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||January 12, 2022 4:22 PM|
^^ The Multiple Accounts Troll
|by Anonymous||reply 263||January 12, 2022 4:23 PM|
R263 You deranged frau have hallucinations and see me everywhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||January 12, 2022 4:24 PM|
Not about the vaccine, is it? I understand why a top tier athlete would be apprehensive about vaccination but that doesn't explain why he is sauntering around without a mask on his Cro-Magnon face in large crowds after allegedly testing positive for covid.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||January 12, 2022 4:24 PM|
R237, I doubt they committees had any awareness of the deadline info. Applications were submitted to Tennis Australia, which then passed them on, possibly even after 16 December, if those involved knew about the flurry around the imminent, if late, Novax submission.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||January 12, 2022 4:24 PM|
Well! There will be plenty of tears either way after the decision
|by Anonymous||reply 267||January 12, 2022 4:26 PM|
Now he's being condemned by the SERBIAN PM.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||January 12, 2022 4:28 PM|
There is no such thing as bad publicity.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||January 12, 2022 4:31 PM|
R259, 260 Surely dirty Balkanics are to blame that you are an old deranged unfuckable frau.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||January 12, 2022 4:31 PM|
R264. Nah, not a frau, not even female and my comment was meant for the guy who screams Multiple Accounts in every fucking thread.
I'm the guy who asked you about the highway conditions from Zadar to Zagreb. Come on, brah, get vaccinated. Or don't come to Dalmatia, OK?
|by Anonymous||reply 271||January 12, 2022 4:33 PM|
R271 I go to Dalmatia very often. In fact, my father is Dalmatian.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||January 12, 2022 4:36 PM|
I see the Serbs picked up their "whataboutism" technique from the Russian trolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||January 12, 2022 4:38 PM|
R273 Gotta wonder if the new one is actually a Russian now actually.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||January 12, 2022 4:46 PM|
Are Australian pro vaccination or are they just pro Pfizer?
|by Anonymous||reply 275||January 12, 2022 4:51 PM|
[quote]To the troll who has invaded this thread to turn this into a debate over getting vaccinated, that's not the only thing that's pissing us off about Djokovic. It's how he lied, covered his lies with more lies, threw his staff under the bus, feigned innocence, and continues his sociopathic ways with absolutely no remorse or concern about who he's infected in the process. At most he's given lip service to it when painted into a corner.
Every time the deplorables rush to defend an asshole acting like an asshole, it turns out he's an even bigger asshole that we thought.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||January 12, 2022 4:52 PM|
R272. OK if your father is Dalmatian then you should know Doris Dragović is vaccinated which means you should be too. Heh heh.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||January 12, 2022 4:53 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 278||January 12, 2022 4:55 PM|
I just woke up, what's the latest? Is he deported yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 279||January 12, 2022 4:55 PM|
Not a fan of Doris R277. I prefer Eric Clapton. But I am not anti vax, these are slenders.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||January 12, 2022 4:56 PM|
Are you from Zadar R277?
|by Anonymous||reply 281||January 12, 2022 4:56 PM|
How come you ended in US? How is it there? They don't keep you in some ghetto?
|by Anonymous||reply 282||January 12, 2022 5:01 PM|
Btw, Novak is hot favorite to win in betting markets. Get your bets in folks!
|by Anonymous||reply 283||January 12, 2022 5:02 PM|
Djokovic broke Serbian rules by holding the L'Equipe interview in Belgrade when he'd allegedly tested positive. Even the Serbian PM acknowledges that.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||January 12, 2022 5:06 PM|
Poor Ana Brnabić. Between a rock and the hard place.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||January 12, 2022 5:07 PM|
R281 A very sweet small island off Šibenik. No cars, no motors except on boats. But my mother was Spanish so raised mostly in Andalucia
|by Anonymous||reply 286||January 12, 2022 5:09 PM|
Great mixture. Love Šibenik, my family is from deeper south, near Split.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||January 12, 2022 5:14 PM|
R285 Off topic I know, but how on earth did you Serbs end up with an out lesbian PM? I mean, that's quite impressive.. progress? But she still doesn't support gay rights?
|by Anonymous||reply 288||January 12, 2022 5:18 PM|
I know these islands, coral islands, Vesna Parun's homeland. R286
Don't be afraid I won't come to infect you.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||January 12, 2022 5:19 PM|
Heh heh. We can have a drink together after you are fully vaccinated.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||January 12, 2022 5:25 PM|
I am not a Serb R288. But as far as I know she was installed by the omnipotent president Vučić. Poor woman, I think she is personally liberal and civilized, but must obey to crazy nationalist Vučić.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||January 12, 2022 5:28 PM|
R291 My bad, idiotically, I assumed. Dalmatian father - that's Croatia, obviously (I only know that because of those pretty and unique Dalmatian dogs!) Had never heard of Šibenik but have Googled it now.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||January 12, 2022 5:31 PM|
R290 hehe, mudar si ti.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||January 12, 2022 5:32 PM|
Hvala lijepa hehe
|by Anonymous||reply 294||January 12, 2022 5:40 PM|
"In 2019, her partner Milica Đurđić gave birth to a boy; Brnabić is the first openly gay prime minister whose partner gave birth while the prime minister was in office."
Mind-blowing for Serbia but the Croatian poster is right: Vučić picked her and: "Some observers believe that she has no political power in line with the constitutional role of chief of the executive, arguing instead that Vučić wields power in his capacity as the president."
|by Anonymous||reply 295||January 12, 2022 5:43 PM|
[post redacted because independent.co.uk thinks that links to their ridiculous rag are a bad thing. Somebody might want to tell them how the internet works. Or not. We don't really care. They do suck though. Our advice is that you should not click on the link and whatever you do, don't read their truly terrible articles.]
|by Anonymous||reply 296||January 12, 2022 6:00 PM|
Damn, I forgot links to the Independent are “discouraged.” Anyway, they say that the deportation saga could drag on for “a few more days.”
|by Anonymous||reply 297||January 12, 2022 6:01 PM|
R297 Ironically the Independent link still works if you click on it. (Still don't understand why they don't want DL to drive traffic to them though.)
|by Anonymous||reply 298||January 12, 2022 6:06 PM|
They'll likely let the decision drag on to let the hubris die down, then quietly allow him to play. That's my guess. Of course there will be reaction, but it will not be as loud as it might have been. Novaxx will win the title and take over as the most Slams won. 95% of the world will find him to be vile for about 24 hours, then move on.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||January 12, 2022 7:03 PM|
It's likely he'll be allowed to stay and play, but wouldn't it be marvelous if he was arrested and led away from center court as this article suggests he could be. Bring the drama.
If his visa is cancelled it would mean that he could not re-enter Australia for 3 years. I don't think the gov has the balls to create such a diplomatic row.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||January 12, 2022 7:17 PM|
Serbia sounds delightful.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||January 12, 2022 7:24 PM|
Bro's interview on (as I learned on DL) infamous GBN.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||January 12, 2022 7:46 PM|
Cmon Aussies, WAKE UP
|by Anonymous||reply 303||January 12, 2022 8:12 PM|
How ironic would it be if Novaxx catches COVID in Australia and has to withdraw?
|by Anonymous||reply 304||January 12, 2022 8:19 PM|
The family of course won't bite THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||January 12, 2022 8:23 PM|
Why are Novaxx’s sponsors telling him to walk away, get his stuff in order for the next event and deescalate this drama? What does it benefit him be at the AO?
|by Anonymous||reply 306||January 12, 2022 8:28 PM|
*not telling. *to be at
|by Anonymous||reply 307||January 12, 2022 8:29 PM|
I love this account.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||January 12, 2022 8:34 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 309||January 12, 2022 8:58 PM|
I'm gonna need more than r309 before I break out the champagne.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||January 12, 2022 9:00 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 311||January 12, 2022 9:03 PM|
Tennis star Novak Djokovic on Wednesday admitted he did not immediately isolate after testing positive for Covid-19 last month -- but denied knowing he had the virus when attending public events
In a statement published to social media, he also apologized for an apparently false travel declaration, saying it had been submitted on his behalf by a member of his support staff in "human error."
Djokovic added that he had made an "error of judgment" in doing a media interview and photo shoot with a French sports newspaper after he had tested positive.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||January 12, 2022 9:16 PM|
R309 I'll be so pissed if that report is wrong
my hopes are up now
|by Anonymous||reply 313||January 12, 2022 9:20 PM|
human error? without that human error he wouldnt have enter Australia in the first place
|by Anonymous||reply 314||January 12, 2022 9:22 PM|
R197 that would be delicious either way
|by Anonymous||reply 315||January 12, 2022 9:25 PM|
That would be delicious!
Croatians say, which island is better? Korcula or Hvar?
|by Anonymous||reply 316||January 12, 2022 9:33 PM|
He really is neck to neck with Aaron Rodgers as sports biggest asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||January 12, 2022 9:33 PM|
More like asshole to asshole with him…
|by Anonymous||reply 318||January 12, 2022 9:36 PM|
R316, Krk is nice. Cres (located next to Krk) is lovely, a hidden gem often overlooked.
Please don't bring Idiotkovic there.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||January 12, 2022 9:38 PM|
R319 Thanks! Idiotkovic maybe is in tears now
|by Anonymous||reply 320||January 12, 2022 9:41 PM|
Fans go wild for Novak's handsome brothers (from the DM).
|by Anonymous||reply 321||January 12, 2022 9:46 PM|
Come on Mr. Hawke, let’s go!
|by Anonymous||reply 322||January 12, 2022 9:47 PM|
Lol what R321 That bloke is about as fugly as his brother. These eyes. If they were even closer, he'd be a cyclops.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||January 12, 2022 9:49 PM|
They all look sort of inbred.
Is inbreeding common among Serbs or is it just that two deluded morons (his parents) sired three equally deluded, inbred-looking morons?
|by Anonymous||reply 324||January 12, 2022 9:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 325||January 12, 2022 9:55 PM|
If deported, won’t Novak and lawyers run to the same judge again ?
|by Anonymous||reply 326||January 12, 2022 9:56 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 327||January 12, 2022 9:58 PM|
Korcula is chill....they have a beautiful old town. Hvar is a more party island
|by Anonymous||reply 328||January 12, 2022 10:01 PM|
Orang Utans are cute, nice and smart.
The Djokovics are not.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||January 12, 2022 10:13 PM|
Well, I posted that in the wrong thread. Though I do agree that the orang is cuter and likely smarter than Novak.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||January 12, 2022 10:59 PM|
[quote] Tennis star Novak Djokovic on Wednesday admitted he did not immediately isolate after testing positive for Covid-19 last month -- but denied knowing he had the virus when attending public events [quote] In a statement published to social media, he also apologized for an apparently false travel declaration, saying it had been submitted on his behalf by a member of his support staff in "human error." [quote] Djokovic added that he had made an "error of judgment" in doing a media interview and photo shoot with a French sports newspaper after he had tested positive.
He sure is full of excuses. He honestly just does what he wants to do. He really doesn't care. This headline says it all....
|by Anonymous||reply 331||January 12, 2022 11:04 PM|
Yes, I reckon they will let him play. I hope he loses.
Other tournaments will have to bring the hammer down when it comes to vaxxing. Then perhaps Nadal can even Djoker's grand slam total to 21. I would love to see that happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||January 12, 2022 11:21 PM|
Remove his stanksleeve and send him home.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||January 12, 2022 11:23 PM|
I don't believe for one second he had COVID recently - it is a scam to slip into the AO on what he thinks are his own terms. The slight puzzle is why they waited till 16 December, when they could have done this a week or two earlier and cut off at least some of the issues being raised. The answer probably lies in what Novax himself wanted and what his diary dictated - through arrogance and carelessness he wasn't prepared to do things properly. He couldn't even manage to do this the week before Christmas. Another interesting point is his coach and entourage, who all got through to Australia no problem, which must mean, unlike their boss, they are all properly vaccinated.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||January 12, 2022 11:25 PM|
It's 10:30 AM now...draw is for 3 PM let's go Hawke announce something!
|by Anonymous||reply 335||January 12, 2022 11:30 PM|
All the tennis journalists twitterers are very quiet.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||January 12, 2022 11:31 PM|
As time passes, it feels more and more vindictive not to let him play.
That's why they won't boot him. They're going to wimp out.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||January 12, 2022 11:32 PM|
This is better than the 2009 AO final between Rafa and Fed! I'm on the edge of my seat!
|by Anonymous||reply 338||January 12, 2022 11:32 PM|
[quote] As time passes, it feels more and more vindictive not to let him play.
I would have agreed, except that each day in between has brought more lies of his to light. The extra days also allowed his team to make another formal argument to the government, and hopefully, for the government to issue detailed support for its decision. (And no offense to the government attorneys who tried their best, but maybe spring for more senior attorneys for the argument this time!)
|by Anonymous||reply 339||January 12, 2022 11:34 PM|
Fuck off, eternal victim.
|by Anonymous||reply 340||January 12, 2022 11:37 PM|
After his instagram post, the Serbian PM, now the Spanish Gov. is also investigating him since he entered the country under false pretense, the world is really against him. The ESPN editorial below is really damaging. I do not think he is coming back from this.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||January 12, 2022 11:41 PM|
they won't dare do anything in Serbia to their god.
Spain could very well take action though and boot him from staying in Marbella
|by Anonymous||reply 342||January 12, 2022 11:45 PM|
R337 - “ As time passes, it feels more and more vindictive not to let him play. That's why they won't boot him. They're going to wimp out.”
Hey Serb@ R337! How’s the view up your dark and dank, stink- hole? Go play victim somewhere else.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||January 12, 2022 11:49 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 344||January 12, 2022 11:51 PM|
R341, the Spanish government investigation seems questionable. Djokovic is a resident of Monaco, and doesn’t need a visa to get into Spain, where he owns a home. I think he would need a negative COVID test, but that’s it.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||January 12, 2022 11:53 PM|
R339 I know that you meant no offence but you might want to look into the backgrounds of the government’s lawyers Chris Tran and Naomi Wootten before implying that their youth might have been a factor in the original decision. They negotiated with the ND team to get us to where we are now.
Maybe it was his racial background and her sex that influenced your opinion?
|by Anonymous||reply 346||January 12, 2022 11:59 PM|
the people on reddit say that he was already in spain 26th,they saw him training... he wasnt then in serbia officialy? When they posted pictures from marbella when he suddenly showed up at club? It was after 1th january
|by Anonymous||reply 347||January 13, 2022 12:04 AM|
I love Robin Haase.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||January 13, 2022 12:06 AM|
Hawke-eye…where are you…tick tock
|by Anonymous||reply 349||January 13, 2022 12:52 AM|
Decision likely this afternoon? (it’s currently just after 12 noon there)
|by Anonymous||reply 350||January 13, 2022 1:30 AM|
R350, I just don't know. The same paper is reporting that Hawke has been deluged by submissions from Djokovic's lawyers, and, gosh, there's just so much to think about and investigate that the "timeframe" of the decision will be affected.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||January 13, 2022 1:35 AM|
Covid is a worsening problem in Aus. This doesn’t seem like the time to be lax about visa vax requirements.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||January 13, 2022 1:36 AM|
I’m reading too much into everything, but I wonder if that announcement is a preemptive step taken so that if Djokovic is kicked out again, people won’t say it hurt AO ticket sales.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||January 13, 2022 1:43 AM|
R353, it could also mean fewer pitchforks in the crowd.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||January 13, 2022 1:47 AM|
just read the AO is only going to have 50% capacity fans due to covid
so just imagine the reaction if they don't kick Djokovic out but the rest of the public still has to follow safety measures
|by Anonymous||reply 355||January 13, 2022 1:49 AM|
CNN says the decision is expected SOON!!
|by Anonymous||reply 356||January 13, 2022 1:54 AM|
well we're 2 hours away from the draw ceremony lol
I swear they're doing this to be as dramatic as possible
|by Anonymous||reply 357||January 13, 2022 1:57 AM|
These spineless people will let him play.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||January 13, 2022 2:00 AM|
If they cancel his visa again, he has to either move back into the detention hotel or get on a plane.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||January 13, 2022 2:02 AM|
Any lawyers here can explain - I find it confusing that a decision made by a minister can't be appealed - but the reasons for it can be? What does that mean in practice? Does it mean that Djokovic hypothetically can't get off based on procedure like he did already but can stay if the judge rules that the minister's reasons are unlawful??
|by Anonymous||reply 360||January 13, 2022 2:02 AM|
R360, my assessment, based on random internet research: there are two kinds of orders he can issue, an “order of deportation” and an “order of removal.” The later is a super-power type thing and can’t be appealed. The former can be appealed. It turns on the basis of his decision, I.e., his reasons. An order of removal requires (again, as I understand it) a finding that Djokovic is some sort of threat to Australia. Virtually any other reason makes the order one that can be appealed.
|by Anonymous||reply 361||January 13, 2022 2:11 AM|
Thanks.. so if it's an order of deportation, I'm wondering if the judge could put an injunction in place so that Djokovic can play before the ruling is made. Think that would cause a stink though.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||January 13, 2022 2:16 AM|
R352, but that would place the blame on the judge, which the government might see as a good result.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||January 13, 2022 2:19 AM|
R362 if it's the same judge as the one who ruled this past weekend then he won't care if he sets Australia on fire
|by Anonymous||reply 364||January 13, 2022 2:19 AM|
Sorry, meant R362.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||January 13, 2022 2:20 AM|
But he cannot play before rulling is play. Thats idiotic. He shoul be in that deportation hotel.
|by Anonymous||reply 366||January 13, 2022 2:22 AM|
is made, jesus
|by Anonymous||reply 367||January 13, 2022 2:23 AM|
[Quote], I'm wondering if the judge could put an injunction in place so that Djokovic can play before the ruling is made. Think that would cause a stink though.
This was one of the possibilities provided in a link above. He could begin play and then get taken right off the court if the order came down against him. I'd actually like this scenario to play out, the ass wipe
|by Anonymous||reply 368||January 13, 2022 2:27 AM|
DL (well except the 1 Djokovic superfan) will appreciate this clip
|by Anonymous||reply 369||January 13, 2022 2:28 AM|
WTF this can't be real
|by Anonymous||reply 370||January 13, 2022 2:29 AM|
HOWARD: “I call him the Joker!”
ROBIN: “So does everybody else, Howard!”
|by Anonymous||reply 371||January 13, 2022 2:31 AM|
Djokovic is, to put it mildly, not a flight risk, so he wouldn’t need to be held pending a final decision.
|by Anonymous||reply 372||January 13, 2022 2:31 AM|
R368 No, I meant the whole tournament. I don't see how it benefits anyone to have him play 1 match or something partial like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||January 13, 2022 2:32 AM|
and look where he is right now
so the decision will likely come out with him right in the center of view
|by Anonymous||reply 374||January 13, 2022 2:32 AM|
'Playing with Australian youngsters' and putting himself on court - working the PR optics, I see.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||January 13, 2022 2:34 AM|
R373 it would be fishy as fuck, the judge waits for the verdict to the end of tournament
|by Anonymous||reply 376||January 13, 2022 2:39 AM|
1 hour to go before the draw ceremony
tick tock Hawke
|by Anonymous||reply 377||January 13, 2022 3:01 AM|
R376 the judge has nothing to do with the decision, which is at the discretion of the Minister for Immigration Alex Hawke.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||January 13, 2022 3:06 AM|
Why can’t Hawke find that Novaxx’s medical exemption is invalid therefore his visa is cancelled? Wasn’t that the original issue?
|by Anonymous||reply 379||January 13, 2022 3:08 AM|
R378 Paul Sakkal of The Age says that Djokovic's lawyers will likely be able to appeal, so the judge will be able to make rulings.
|by Anonymous||reply 380||January 13, 2022 3:23 AM|
Thread on the permutations of how the draw would work if Djokovic pulls out and at what point -
|by Anonymous||reply 381||January 13, 2022 3:26 AM|
The best draw would be if Srdjan Djokovic pulled out early thirty-five years ago...
|by Anonymous||reply 382||January 13, 2022 3:32 AM|
15 minutes left
If Hawke really does kick Djokovic out, it seems like he wants to fuck up Craig Tilley's initial draw ceremony lol I mean why else wait until the last minute
and of course if he lets Djokovic stay well then fuck him too
|by Anonymous||reply 383||January 13, 2022 3:45 AM|
I am not one to take the side of anti vaxxers, but I'd be screaming if this guy gets special treatment. Hawke MUST be aware of that.
|by Anonymous||reply 384||January 13, 2022 3:47 AM|
Yes, it seems vindictive to people are who generally content with their lives.
Fuck off, bitter old queen who wants to shit on everyone else's parade.
|by Anonymous||reply 385||January 13, 2022 3:47 AM|
R384 Yeah, haven't quite a few anti-vaxxers actually lost their job because they didn't get vaccinated?
|by Anonymous||reply 386||January 13, 2022 3:49 AM|
I'm not sure about Australian workers, R386, but there is a vaccine mandate for people entering the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 387||January 13, 2022 3:51 AM|
I actually do not support Novak playing. But he doesn't have Covid and I think as the days wear on, it looks bad to kick him out.
You may be socially awkward and tone-deaf, but Aussie politicians are not, and they need to gauge how it will appear to boot him out now.
I'm also not Serbian. Your inability to construct a sentence and grade-school level insults peg you as a person whose opinion doesn't really count.
|by Anonymous||reply 388||January 13, 2022 3:52 AM|
The Serbs are clinging to the crazy judge to save NoVax and it's hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||January 13, 2022 3:54 AM|
Found this article, there are quite a few Aussies who have lost their job for not being vaccinated. Yet Djoker gets to play even without a valid exemption?
|by Anonymous||reply 390||January 13, 2022 3:54 AM|
Thanks, R390. I hate anti-vaxxers, but if they let him play this will cause a lot of shit with Aussie anti-vaxxers.
|by Anonymous||reply 391||January 13, 2022 3:56 AM|
They know that his visa should be cancelled because he should not be there, so they are hoping and praying that the judge displays more favoritism/corruption in saving NoVax. I'll tell you this, if the judge does that, he could be opening himself up to an investigation. Don't think he wants that.
|by Anonymous||reply 392||January 13, 2022 3:57 AM|
WHERE ARE YA HAWKE
|by Anonymous||reply 393||January 13, 2022 3:58 AM|
the AO seems to be holding off on the draw ceremony lol
I just checked their twitter, facebook and AO website and nothing yet
|by Anonymous||reply 394||January 13, 2022 4:09 AM|
[quote] But he doesn't have Covid and I think as the days wear on, it looks bad to kick him out.
As the days wear on? He should not have come in the first place. It “looks bad” that he deceived Australia, Serbia and Spain.
It also “looks bad” for all the Australian everyday citizens who do not get special treatment accorded to them, and yet you argue for someone to obtain special privileges because they’ve been in a country where “days wear on”?!
Why allow someone to unlawfully creep into a country?
[quote] You may be socially awkward and tone-deaf, but Aussie politicians are not, and they need to gauge how it will appear to boot him out now.
I’m not the poster you are replying to, but denigrating them by stating they are “socially awkward” and “tone deaf” speaks more of you then the poster you accuse.
Your arguments are unsound. And you have no business speaking for other posters.....or Australian politicians.
|by Anonymous||reply 395||January 13, 2022 4:10 AM|
Ben R says the same.
|by Anonymous||reply 396||January 13, 2022 4:10 AM|
The draw has been delayed, per Ben Rothenberg.
|by Anonymous||reply 397||January 13, 2022 4:10 AM|
Stephanie Myles said earlier that a 2 hour scheduled practice session was cut short after just half an hour.. might be him being notified or doesn't mean anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 398||January 13, 2022 4:12 AM|
Oh the DRAMAAAA!
|by Anonymous||reply 399||January 13, 2022 4:12 AM|
The draw has been CANCELLED until further notice.
|by Anonymous||reply 400||January 13, 2022 4:12 AM|
God, if he actually does get the boot again…hahaha
|by Anonymous||reply 401||January 13, 2022 4:12 AM|
OMG!!!! What is going on?
|by Anonymous||reply 402||January 13, 2022 4:13 AM|
[quote] God, if he actually does get the boot again
It puts the vaccine on its skin or else it gets the boot again.
|by Anonymous||reply 403||January 13, 2022 4:14 AM|
it would be awesome if Hawke decided to fuck Tilley over by kicking out Djokovic at the last minute
|by Anonymous||reply 404||January 13, 2022 4:15 AM|
It's looking more and more like they actually might pull the trigger and make him go.
|by Anonymous||reply 405||January 13, 2022 4:17 AM|
“Cancelled until further notice” is a rather dramatic way to put it. It makes it sound like the draw won’t be today at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||January 13, 2022 4:17 AM|
Myles says that the delayed draw was super last minute.
|by Anonymous||reply 407||January 13, 2022 4:18 AM|
They need to make an example of him!
That they treat everybody the same and he's nothing special.
He didn't follow the rules and thus must be thrown out!
|by Anonymous||reply 408||January 13, 2022 4:21 AM|
The PM is in a cabinet meeting and taking questions from reporters after. Maybe they’re planning for him to come out and announce it to the cameras.
|by Anonymous||reply 409||January 13, 2022 4:21 AM|
How fucking stupid does he think the public is?
He is not vaxxed, claims to be positive with no symptoms, visiting kids and doing interview etc.
And it was human error with that question on the immigration form.
We don't buy your shit.
Too many lies....
|by Anonymous||reply 410||January 13, 2022 4:22 AM|
R409, that makes sense, Morrison should announce this.
|by Anonymous||reply 411||January 13, 2022 4:22 AM|
Yeah, this is not normal.. at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 412||January 13, 2022 4:22 AM|
When's that going to be, R409?
|by Anonymous||reply 413||January 13, 2022 4:22 AM|
Leave now, and never come back!
|by Anonymous||reply 414||January 13, 2022 4:23 AM|
can someone get a livestream for when there is a press conference?
|by Anonymous||reply 415||January 13, 2022 4:26 AM|
Prime Minister to speak at 3:45, so that's 20 mins from now.
|by Anonymous||reply 416||January 13, 2022 4:26 AM|
It sounds like they’re planning to do a lot in the cabinet meeting and who knows when they stated. Maybe Hawke will make the media drop and then the PM will take questions when he’s done.
|by Anonymous||reply 417||January 13, 2022 4:26 AM|
I can’t see them holding a press conference to say, ok Novax, just keep on keeping on here in Australia.
|by Anonymous||reply 418||January 13, 2022 4:28 AM|
maybe I shouldn't get my hopes up but can it be a coincidence that Djokovic's scheduled practice was cut short and that the AO draw ceremony is delayed on the same day as we're awaiting the announcement?
|by Anonymous||reply 419||January 13, 2022 4:29 AM|
Theory: Morrison called the Serbians that if NoVax goes quietly and quickly, they won't dig any deeper into the fake testing results issue.
|by Anonymous||reply 420||January 13, 2022 4:29 AM|
They can make him take a blood test, he doesn't have antibodies!
|by Anonymous||reply 421||January 13, 2022 4:30 AM|
this could be it
|by Anonymous||reply 422||January 13, 2022 4:30 AM|
Craig Tilley must be shaking
|by Anonymous||reply 423||January 13, 2022 4:31 AM|
If the PM makes a decision, I'm sure there will be no recourse for appeals and what not.
He will have to leave the country stat!
I hope he gets banned for 3 years!
|by Anonymous||reply 424||January 13, 2022 4:32 AM|
Axes at the ready!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 425||January 13, 2022 4:32 AM|
Knowing our luck, the PM will hold an hourlong press conference and mention at the end that he has no news on Novax.
|by Anonymous||reply 426||January 13, 2022 4:33 AM|
Does the press conference start in 15 min or the cabinet meeting?
|by Anonymous||reply 427||January 13, 2022 4:33 AM|
The press conference starts in 15.
|by Anonymous||reply 428||January 13, 2022 4:34 AM|
R419 And now the PM is suddenly holding a press conference in 30 mins..
|by Anonymous||reply 429||January 13, 2022 4:35 AM|
Does Australia have the death penalty?
|by Anonymous||reply 430||January 13, 2022 4:36 AM|
Anyone know of a livestream for this PC?
|by Anonymous||reply 431||January 13, 2022 4:37 AM|
God, what if Morrison doesn't say anything about it. Fuuuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 432||January 13, 2022 4:38 AM|
I wonder why Morrison would not be joined by Hawke since it's Hawke's decision?
|by Anonymous||reply 433||January 13, 2022 4:39 AM|
This is the most I’ve cared about Australia since Muriel’s Wedding
|by Anonymous||reply 434||January 13, 2022 4:39 AM|
"The Australian Open draw has now been rescheduled to 4:15pm in Melbourne."
GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT THEN. Hopefully.
|by Anonymous||reply 435||January 13, 2022 4:39 AM|
Novax'a lawyers will simply march off to the court to dispute the deportation.
They will drag out the case which will allow him to play in the interim.
Unless the Govt have an ace up their sleeve, it's gonna be hard to get rid of him.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||January 13, 2022 4:40 AM|
So between the start of the press conference at 3:45 and the draw at 4:15, we’ll know.
If Novax is getting the boot, did the government get Craig Tilley to go along with removing him from the draw even if Novax is going to challenge his deportation?
|by Anonymous||reply 437||January 13, 2022 4:41 AM|
Can't play if he's not in the draw.
|by Anonymous||reply 438||January 13, 2022 4:42 AM|
R437 I think that's key - if he's not in the draw, I have never heard of a player being added in afterwards. It's probably against the rules even.
|by Anonymous||reply 439||January 13, 2022 4:43 AM|
We may be able to watch the press conference here:
|by Anonymous||reply 440||January 13, 2022 4:45 AM|
Has Djokovic's father issued a warning about Serbians taking the streets yet in Melbourne?
|by Anonymous||reply 441||January 13, 2022 4:45 AM|
I think that's the move -- take him out of the draw. Considering Tennis Australia and the odious Craig Tilley are the reasons for this debacle in the first place, it's only right that they are the ones who make the kill shot.
|by Anonymous||reply 442||January 13, 2022 4:45 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 443||January 13, 2022 4:45 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 444||January 13, 2022 4:46 AM|
Makes sense that they delayed the draw so they could reconfigure it sans NoVax.
|by Anonymous||reply 445||January 13, 2022 4:47 AM|
R439, they can pull in players after the draw has been finalized — that’s what happens if players suddenly drop out, for instance.
|by Anonymous||reply 446||January 13, 2022 4:50 AM|
haven't been this anxious about an announcement since waiting for the 2020 elections to be counted
|by Anonymous||reply 447||January 13, 2022 4:51 AM|
speaking now about the cabinet meeting and covid
|by Anonymous||reply 448||January 13, 2022 4:51 AM|
R446 I thought that was lucky losers who go through qualifications though? I guess someone needs to look at the rules handbook.
|by Anonymous||reply 449||January 13, 2022 4:51 AM|
That's not the case here. It's at their discretion to remove him, if that is in fact what they are doing. No court can MAKE them put him back in.
|by Anonymous||reply 450||January 13, 2022 4:52 AM|
Is lucky loser or qualifier?
|by Anonymous||reply 451||January 13, 2022 4:54 AM|
Of course Australia doesn’t have the death penalty R430 - we are a civilised country.
|by Anonymous||reply 452||January 13, 2022 4:54 AM|
So far he’s just talking about Covid..
|by Anonymous||reply 453||January 13, 2022 4:56 AM|
I sincerely doubt that he’ll be talking about ND at all - he is updating on the National Cabinet which was formed to address Covid in Australia. Not some nut job antivaxxer tennis player.
|by Anonymous||reply 454||January 13, 2022 4:58 AM|
So why'd they delay the draw then, R454?
|by Anonymous||reply 455||January 13, 2022 5:01 AM|
but he's taking questions after and that will be what all of them want to ask
|by Anonymous||reply 456||January 13, 2022 5:01 AM|
He's talking about how students and backpackers have to be vaccinated to enter the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 457||January 13, 2022 5:02 AM|
he just mentioned how it's mandatory to be double vaccinated to enter Australia LOL
|by Anonymous||reply 458||January 13, 2022 5:02 AM|
double vaxxed? not for me
|by Anonymous||reply 459||January 13, 2022 5:03 AM|
I think he gave a little hint when he said backpackers who are double vaxxed can come - and that is a necessary condition for entering the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 460||January 13, 2022 5:03 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 461||January 13, 2022 5:03 AM|
I think so too, R460.
|by Anonymous||reply 462||January 13, 2022 5:03 AM|
all of this talk about coronavirus and the protocols serves as perfect introduction to lead into the Djokovic matter
it would be really obnoxious if he doesn't comment on it at all
|by Anonymous||reply 463||January 13, 2022 5:03 AM|
10 minutes until the rescheduled draw…
|by Anonymous||reply 464||January 13, 2022 5:05 AM|
I have never once watched an Australian politician speak before now.
|by Anonymous||reply 465||January 13, 2022 5:05 AM|
OMFG THIS IS FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE
when the fuck are we going to know?
|by Anonymous||reply 466||January 13, 2022 5:05 AM|
Get a fucking life. You're so pathetic. Do you feel like you have a big 4-inch penis now that you've written several paragraphs about my post, analyzing it sentence by sentence?
Nobody gives a shit about you or your opinions on this issue. It's a non-issue anyway. He'll stay or he'll be kicked out. Either way, your post will be forgotten tomorrow by everyone who reads it.
|by Anonymous||reply 467||January 13, 2022 5:05 AM|
this is torture how they're dragging this out
|by Anonymous||reply 468||January 13, 2022 5:06 AM|
OMG, I can't take it anymore!! JFC. When are we going to know?
|by Anonymous||reply 469||January 13, 2022 5:06 AM|
[quote] I have never once watched an Australian politician speak before now.
Give this a try.
|by Anonymous||reply 470||January 13, 2022 5:07 AM|
Another journalist thinks no decision will be announced.
|by Anonymous||reply 471||January 13, 2022 5:09 AM|
I can’t believe I stayed up late for this bullshit.
Deport the man already!
|by Anonymous||reply 472||January 13, 2022 5:11 AM|
Fuckin' Aussies. I know they have nothing to do but but chase koalas kangaroos and such, but I want to know now!!
|by Anonymous||reply 473||January 13, 2022 5:12 AM|
Wtf? Will the cancel the draw again?
|by Anonymous||reply 474||January 13, 2022 5:12 AM|
If they don't make an announcement soon we should force them to become the world's quarantine for anti-vaxxers.
|by Anonymous||reply 475||January 13, 2022 5:13 AM|
where is the fucking immigration minster?
|by Anonymous||reply 476||January 13, 2022 5:13 AM|
Scotty from Marketing comes through with his usual blather.
So true to form.
What else could be expected?
Don’t strain yourself, Scotty, to make an important, timely decision.
|by Anonymous||reply 477||January 13, 2022 5:14 AM|
what happened to tough don't-give-a-shit Aussies? How much more is there to factor into Hawke's decision? Did Djokovic's lawyers file more documents to delay the decision again?
|by Anonymous||reply 478||January 13, 2022 5:15 AM|
He just called it OmNicron.
|by Anonymous||reply 479||January 13, 2022 5:16 AM|
Draw going ahead with Djokovic in it! ugh.
|by Anonymous||reply 480||January 13, 2022 5:18 AM|
I watch Trudeau and his health ministers talk about this every damn day. Get to it, FFS.
|by Anonymous||reply 481||January 13, 2022 5:18 AM|
R480 has the ceremony started? The stream on the AO site isn't working for me yet
|by Anonymous||reply 482||January 13, 2022 5:20 AM|
[quote] He just called it OmNicron.
That’s Scotty. Between he, Boris and Trump; there’s a real trifecta of bumbling idiocy happening in the (former.....and soon to be former?) leaders of the English-origin countries.
|by Anonymous||reply 483||January 13, 2022 5:20 AM|
I can't help but think that if this were Serena, she' be thrown out immediately.
|by Anonymous||reply 484||January 13, 2022 5:21 AM|
draw ceremony starting now
|by Anonymous||reply 485||January 13, 2022 5:21 AM|
Are the journalists not going to ask them?
|by Anonymous||reply 486||January 13, 2022 5:22 AM|
for those who want to watch
but they're starting with the women first of course haha
|by Anonymous||reply 487||January 13, 2022 5:22 AM|
R455 I can’t speak for the Head of Government of my country but you need to consider that while Djokovic’s future is a priority for you, the PM has other priorities. You know, the pandemic etc.
90,000 people were diagnosed with Covid in my state over the last 24 hours (of a population of around 8 million) with 22 people dying. What happens with a famous antivaxxer who lied to get into this country? I’m interested but am more interested in how we deal with the pandemic. Not whether some science-denying dickhead gets to play tennis.
|by Anonymous||reply 488||January 13, 2022 5:24 AM|
R488 and just imagine how many people Djokovic has exposed since he arrived in Australia last week
he is a national health threat
|by Anonymous||reply 489||January 13, 2022 5:25 AM|
Australia should be ashamed!
|by Anonymous||reply 490||January 13, 2022 5:28 AM|
I know, R488, of course the PM has to speak on the pandemic and how it's affecting Australia. I wondered about the timing of the press conference and the delay of the draw is all.
|by Anonymous||reply 491||January 13, 2022 5:28 AM|
Emma Radacanu v Sloane Stephens in Round 1. Bwahahaha
|by Anonymous||reply 492||January 13, 2022 5:30 AM|
Why would anyone reward such an asshole for lying and endangering other people? And the fact that he isn't even a citizen makes it worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 493||January 13, 2022 5:31 AM|
Agreed R489, but there are so many people on this thread who have no idea about how other countries operate. I’m just trying to keep the bullshit to a minimum - have a look at R490, for example. And R476 and R478.
I am no fan of Scott Morrison but he’s the Head of Government dealing with a pandemic, which is why we have a National Cabinet, and an update about which is the point of the press conference.
He’s not a fucking tennis tournament director.
|by Anonymous||reply 494||January 13, 2022 5:32 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 495||January 13, 2022 5:33 AM|
talking about it now!
|by Anonymous||reply 496||January 13, 2022 5:33 AM|
Australia is fucking weak! Being made to look like a fool by a fucking uneducated tennis player!
|by Anonymous||reply 497||January 13, 2022 5:34 AM|
men's draw now
Djokovic officially in until a decision is made
|by Anonymous||reply 498||January 13, 2022 5:35 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 499||January 13, 2022 5:37 AM|
R489 - check out R497 for another example of someone who has no idea about how other countries operate.
|by Anonymous||reply 500||January 13, 2022 5:37 AM|
So if Hawke does decide to pull Djokovic it will wreak havoc on the draw which of course will infuriate Tilley
at this point the AO deserves to have the draw fucked up
|by Anonymous||reply 501||January 13, 2022 5:37 AM|
I think they were going to announce something but then reversed course. That explains why the draw was paused and rescheduled for right after that press conference. Someone changed their minds at the last minute.
|by Anonymous||reply 502||January 13, 2022 5:38 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 503||January 13, 2022 5:38 AM|
they are just giving team novaxx extra time to make deposits into their off shore accounts.
|by Anonymous||reply 504||January 13, 2022 5:42 AM|
apparently Hawke put a statement out earlier saying he wouldn't be constrained by the artificial time limit of the draw ceremony lol so this almost seems like he's waiting to spite Tilley
|by Anonymous||reply 505||January 13, 2022 5:43 AM|
We demand closure before this thread is closed.
|by Anonymous||reply 506||January 13, 2022 5:44 AM|
Morrison has got to be annoyed Hawke is taking so long?
|by Anonymous||reply 507||January 13, 2022 5:45 AM|
Below is from The Guardian live blog. Given these comments by Morrison I can't understand why it is taking so long. It would appear to be cut and dried that Djokovic has no right to enter and remain in the country.
the individual has to show they are double vaccinated or must provide acceptable proof that they can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons. That’s the policy which hasn’t changed. That is the policy and we would expect authorities to be implementing the policy of the government when it comes to those matters.
|by Anonymous||reply 508||January 13, 2022 5:47 AM|
[quote] We demand closure before this thread is closed.
Will the closure of this thread be enough closure for you?
|by Anonymous||reply 509||January 13, 2022 5:48 AM|
I guess he's telling the whole world where Australia stands and its position on coivd....and expecting the immigration minister to tow the line and kick the asshole out!
Now do your fucking job cunt! Hurry the fuck up lazy cunt!
|by Anonymous||reply 510||January 13, 2022 5:50 AM|
R507 the Prime Minister is the Minister for Immigration’s boss. Hawke is doing exactly what Morrison wants him to do.
|by Anonymous||reply 511||January 13, 2022 5:51 AM|
R510 are you drunk? Or just unhinged?
|by Anonymous||reply 512||January 13, 2022 5:52 AM|
If Djokovic, No. 1 seed, withdraws (or is withdrawn) after the draw, he would be replaced by No. 5 seed (Rublev in this case)
But if Djokovic were to withdraw after 1st day's order of play is released, he would be replaced by a lucky loser
|by Anonymous||reply 513||January 13, 2022 5:54 AM|
Australia is such a banana Republic being held hostage like this by a tennis player.
|by Anonymous||reply 514||January 13, 2022 6:02 AM|
are his parents vaxxed? maybe they will get covid and die. that will teach him a lesson.
|by Anonymous||reply 515||January 13, 2022 6:20 AM|
his private hyperbaric chamber will protect him and his family from covid!!!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 516||January 13, 2022 6:25 AM|
R514 if anyone is being held hostage it’s Djokovic, you twit.
|by Anonymous||reply 517||January 13, 2022 6:26 AM|
So he's in the draw.
Guess it's over.
How fucking disappointing.
|by Anonymous||reply 518||January 13, 2022 6:52 AM|
The rich get to do whatever they want and the rest of us do NOTHING ABOUT IT!
|by Anonymous||reply 519||January 13, 2022 6:54 AM|
R518 They can still pull his visa though I admit it's unlikely now. The more time that passes the more likely he stays.
|by Anonymous||reply 520||January 13, 2022 7:21 AM|
fucking ridiculous and there's really no defense of Hawke at this point especially if his decision is to ultimately let Djokovic stay
whenever he finally gets around to deciding he needs to explain why the hell it took so long
|by Anonymous||reply 521||January 13, 2022 7:36 AM|
IF he rules against Djoker, the only reason I can think of is to make sure he has a watertight case and to prevent that judge from throwing a spanner into the works.
If not, he's given into pressure from Serbia or is prejudiced towards the rich and famous especially ones with lawyers and people to advocate for them.
|by Anonymous||reply 522||January 13, 2022 7:40 AM|
R522 at this point it would only be acceptable if he decides to kick Djokovic out. If he decides to let him stay then there's no excuse to have taken so much time for that. Every day new damaging info has come out against Djokovic and it should only hurt his chances. Hawke is going to look very weak the more time he takes if he ends up saying he can stay
|by Anonymous||reply 523||January 13, 2022 7:46 AM|
We are dealing with three different amoral, corrupt and incompetent entities: the Djokovic team, Tennis Australia, and the Australian government. It’s a standoff of the stupid. At the point, cancel the whole thing and send everyone home. And never buy anything from Djokovic’s sponsors ever again.
|by Anonymous||reply 524||January 13, 2022 7:54 AM|
I didn't read the thread so don't know if anyone else mentioned it but when they were showing video of this asshole at the events after he knew he had tested postive for Covid all I could think was that he and Aaron Rodgers look a lot alike. Djokovic has a way to go to reach the level of unwashed homeless person that Rodgers has achieved but I'm sure he can do it if he tries.
|by Anonymous||reply 525||January 13, 2022 8:01 AM|
I think the main reason for the delay is that the number 1 priority for the Aus Govt is that they avoid another embarrassment in court. They could well time the announcement to make it as difficult as possible for ND's lawyers to be able respond and to still have ND play in Rd 1.
|by Anonymous||reply 526||January 13, 2022 8:48 AM|
I came to the end of this thread hoping for a conclusion of some sort. Yet, a rich, uneducated idiot. keeps getting away with it...
|by Anonymous||reply 527||January 13, 2022 8:55 AM|
No period after "idiot" Gah!
|by Anonymous||reply 528||January 13, 2022 9:01 AM|
All this draw stuff is just drama-queening. So what if Novax is part of the draw and then is deported. Someone gets a bye, big fat deal.
|by Anonymous||reply 529||January 13, 2022 9:27 AM|
still a possibility
c'mon Hawke don't be a chicken
|by Anonymous||reply 530||January 13, 2022 9:53 AM|
[quote]First of all, Slovenia is not on Balkans.
Strictly speaking, no. But culturally, yes. Slovenia is very much Balkan. Much like Cypress is culturally European even though it's geographically located in Asia.
|by Anonymous||reply 531||January 13, 2022 9:56 AM|
[quote] [R518] They can still pull his visa though I admit it's unlikely now. [bold]The more time that passes the more likely he stays.[/bold]
This isn’t a case of squatter’s rights. As the poster said above, get a clue.
|by Anonymous||reply 532||January 13, 2022 9:59 AM|
I just woke up.
|by Anonymous||reply 533||January 13, 2022 10:37 AM|
Hawke's problem is Djokers lawyers are ready to march down to the court and seek an injunction which is likely to succeed.
He has to figure out a way to circumvent that outcome.
|by Anonymous||reply 534||January 13, 2022 11:03 AM|
In other news, my Rafa's draw is BRUTAL. He didn't really have a chance to begin with, but now he has zero shot.
|by Anonymous||reply 535||January 13, 2022 11:06 AM|
[quote] Much like Cypress
|by Anonymous||reply 536||January 13, 2022 11:59 AM|
Still no news?
|by Anonymous||reply 537||January 13, 2022 12:04 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 538||January 13, 2022 12:09 PM|
Well, the Age says Friday is likely but then again, they did say Thursday was likely. Another weird/interesting thing - they claim that the delayed draw was to see if the presser would announce the cancellation of Novax's visa:
"Mr Hawke is likely to announce his decision on Friday, after Tennis Australia delayed for an hour a press conference on Thursday to announce the tournament’s draw in the expectation he would cancel the Serbian tennis star’s visa."
|by Anonymous||reply 539||January 13, 2022 12:14 PM|
This is not rocket science. Just throw the asshole out.
|by Anonymous||reply 540||January 13, 2022 12:15 PM|
What the fuck is the immigration minister waiting for???
|by Anonymous||reply 541||January 13, 2022 1:06 PM|
Not an Aussie but IIRC there is an election coming up. I would thinks with COVID/Omicron ravaging the country and so many restrictions on the citizens, the current gov't would absolutely kick his ass out to show no one, especially a foreigner, has special treatment when so many couldn't enter/leave the country to see sick or dying family members. While it seems a no-brainer to me, the s l o w decision announcement gives me pause.
|by Anonymous||reply 542||January 13, 2022 1:20 PM|
At this point I can’t help but think Novaxx is going to be allowed to stay. The government already fucked up the chance to boot him out of the country.
The only justice now can come in the form of karma. If he gets COVID a second time while there he may not be so lucky.
|by Anonymous||reply 543||January 13, 2022 1:21 PM|
[quote]At this point I can’t help but think Novaxx is going to be allowed to stay.
Then what are they waiting for?
|by Anonymous||reply 544||January 13, 2022 1:23 PM|
I’m a deluded optimist, so I’m wondering if Hawke has made some inquiries to Serbia or Spain to formally confirm some of Djokovic’s misstatements.
|by Anonymous||reply 545||January 13, 2022 1:33 PM|
It’s also kind of interesting - if Hawke didn’t consider the AO draw as imposing a deadline on his decision, then he really doesn’t have another deadline due to events until the tournament actually begins. So he can pick whatever moment will make it hardest for Novax to overturn the cancellation.
|by Anonymous||reply 546||January 13, 2022 1:37 PM|
Of course the Australian government is making inquiries with the Serbian and Spanish governments and maybe even the Dubai government into whether Novak's certificate of recovery is real or fake, r545.
R546, why should Hawke consider an external factor as imposing a deadline on his decision, r546? What would be really shit, however, is if Novak plays a round or two, knocks out a couple of players and then he's deported. Those other players would then have lost their chance to proceed to the next round.
|by Anonymous||reply 547||January 13, 2022 1:45 PM|
If I’m in Hawke’s spot and I’m looking purely at how to prevent Novax from playing, I’d want to knock him out immediately before the first round, and extend the appeals process through the second round, at which point it would be impossible to incorporate him back into the tournament. I’m not sure that’s even possible, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 548||January 13, 2022 1:52 PM|
Novax seems to think he can submit an appeal over the weekend. I didn't know judges sat over the weekend or do they in emergencies?
|by Anonymous||reply 549||January 13, 2022 1:59 PM|
They're going to put it off until Djokovic actually plays and then it will be too late.
|by Anonymous||reply 550||January 13, 2022 2:00 PM|
R360 It is a question that can be answered only by Australian law experts. As far as I know in every democratic regime an administrative decision can be questioned before the court of law. Even here in not so democratic Balkans the right to appeal before the court of law is constitutional right. Only US can keep people locked in Guantanamo without the access to the courts. And China and similar states.
|by Anonymous||reply 551||January 13, 2022 2:02 PM|
Spain has denied that they are investigating Djokovic.
|by Anonymous||reply 552||January 13, 2022 2:05 PM|
I highly doubt they're going to "cancel the whole thing and send everybody home."
The AO brings in major loaf and the Aussie government is not going to risk pissing off more people than they have already.
I believe the delaying tactics are working for everybody.
|by Anonymous||reply 553||January 13, 2022 2:08 PM|
I have one question though. For real, I am not trolling.
Is the majority of posters here male? Because you Dlers usually call women Karen. And they seem to be more sensitive to the issues of someone not obeying rules, be it in the public transportation, at the office, at school where their kids go. I can even understand the Austrian frau and few other Western European fraus that are terrified by Balkanic workers in their countries and would like to have some Trump of their own to build the wall and save them.
But is it possible that you men can be such big fraus, sitting here all day long like hens in a henhouse and bitching about some tennis player as if he lied about the existence of nuclear weapon in Iraq.
|by Anonymous||reply 554||January 13, 2022 2:41 PM|
[quote]For real, I am not trolling.
[quote]But is it possible that you men can be such big fraus, sitting here all day long like hens in a henhouse and bitching about some tennis player as if he lied about the existence of nuclear weapon in Iraq.
But you are, r554! You are trolling!
|by Anonymous||reply 555||January 13, 2022 2:44 PM|
R555 I really ain't. I am frank about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 556||January 13, 2022 2:47 PM|
R555 I see that women from Western Europe are afraid to lose some rights and freedom because of immigrants and they project their xenophobia on Novaxx, but I don't understand what is the big problem of gay men, particularly American with Novax. I mean you see every day people in high places lying and stealing and destroying your lives, so what is the big deal with one tennis player and his little lies?
|by Anonymous||reply 557||January 13, 2022 2:53 PM|
R556 how can you say that with a straight face when your entire post is a litany of insults? If you were asking a genuine question, you'd keep the trashy insults out of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 558||January 13, 2022 2:53 PM|
Seems likely he will stay IMO. To get booted out also means a 3 year ban, but I suppose somebody in high places could waive the ban at a later date. Hawke must be considering this as well.
Plus the delay might be because the gov is waiting on docs from Serbia/Spain to attest to reasons why ND cannot be vaccinated. You know, bullshit docs like those Trump's doctor provided
|by Anonymous||reply 559||January 13, 2022 2:54 PM|
R557 Ah yes.. well, here's the thing. Rich and developed countries have lower corruption indexes than poor third world countries. And one reason for that is that developed countries or the people in them have a higher standard and hold people to account.
|by Anonymous||reply 560||January 13, 2022 2:55 PM|
[quote]It’s also kind of interesting - if Hawke didn’t consider the AO draw as imposing a deadline on his decision, then he really doesn’t have another deadline due to events until the tournament actually begins. So he can pick whatever moment will make it hardest for Novax to overturn the cancellation.
They should delay it and keep his ass locked in a ratty hotel room until the day after the tournament ends and then tell him he can stay.
|by Anonymous||reply 561||January 13, 2022 2:56 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 562||January 13, 2022 2:57 PM|
I like your thinking, R561.
|by Anonymous||reply 563||January 13, 2022 2:57 PM|
R560 Because the rich and developed countries permit corruption only on high level and they make their fortune by exploiting the 3rd world countries. If you held high standards to your politicians all this shit with Middle East wouldn't have happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 564||January 13, 2022 2:59 PM|
"Everybody's crooked, so why bother holding anyone to account?" is a very Eastern European point of view, often employed to rationalize one's own ethical lapses.
|by Anonymous||reply 565||January 13, 2022 2:59 PM|
R565 You are a shallow and manipulative person.
If you had such high standards in West how come you allowed your politicians shred Middle East to pieces.
|by Anonymous||reply 566||January 13, 2022 3:01 PM|
[quote] Is the majority of posters here male? Because you Dlers usually call women Karen. And they seem to be more sensitive to the issues of someone not obeying rules, be it in the public transportation, at the office, at school where their kids go. I can even understand the Austrian frau and few other Western European fraus that are terrified by Balkanic workers in their countries and would like to have some Trump of their own to build the wall and save them.
[quote] But is it possible that you men can be such big fraus, sitting here all day long like hens in a henhouse and bitching about some tennis player as if he lied about the existence of nuclear weapon in Iraq.
What a sexist, misogynistic, little troll you are, R554.
[quote] [R555] I really ain't. I am frank about it.
You are deep in denial, lack self awareness, and are ignorant.
You must be poorly educated. Are you the one from Serbia?
|by Anonymous||reply 567||January 13, 2022 3:02 PM|
And I am not some anti West fanatic, I am aware of our own faults.
|by Anonymous||reply 568||January 13, 2022 3:02 PM|
R567 Ok, I am sexist and you are a fascist.
But honestly, calling on someone for misogyny on DL, you can do better.
|by Anonymous||reply 569||January 13, 2022 3:04 PM|
And I am the least misogynist person on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 570||January 13, 2022 3:05 PM|
I think I explained that I know western European women are afraid of immigrants and thus projecting it on Balkans, but why are you American men projecting so much anger on this guy?
|by Anonymous||reply 571||January 13, 2022 3:10 PM|
They even try it in court, R565. Several defense briefs the Russian filed in US courts regarding their involvement in the 2016 election boiled down to "the US illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, so we didn't do anything wrong here."
To be fair, Russian courts post-Putin are an extension of Nazi courts: whatever the big guy wants is legal, whatever he hates is illegal.
|by Anonymous||reply 572||January 13, 2022 3:14 PM|
R572 The democracy level in Russia is a well known fact, as is in post Yugoslav countries. But bitching about it will not help you solve your own problems and save the little democracy and rights you have left.
Just as Western European women, and I am sorry if I sounded misogynist before, can hate Balkanics all they want, but they are not the ones who destroyed their welfare state.
|by Anonymous||reply 573||January 13, 2022 3:23 PM|
R565 100% agree. This stupid person from the Balkans doesn't understand that shrugging your shoulders at corruption is the reason why they are poorer and less developed than the US and Western Europe.
|by Anonymous||reply 574||January 13, 2022 3:25 PM|
If you hadn't your head in your ass you would understand that your country is very corrupted R574, but only you sheep are not allowed to join the feast. And if your country is richer than mine it is only because you were historically bigger crooks.
Being imperialist and post imperialist force, exploiting others keeping slaves etc of course helps a bit.
But it so great to be a self satisfied jerk.
|by Anonymous||reply 575||January 13, 2022 3:47 PM|
R572 I don't deny that there's a ton of corruption but it's relative. If you look up corruption indexes, you can clearly see a pattern about which countries are worse. Then you compare that against how developed and wealthy they are and it's pretty clear that there's a link.
That's why I will never apologise for wanting to hold people like Djokovic to account. It pressurises politicians (yes, most of them are corrupt and greedy fucks - perhaps that's simply human nature - but we are somewhat better at holding them to account which is better for everyone and the country in the end.)
|by Anonymous||reply 576||January 13, 2022 3:52 PM|
Sorry, that was for R575
|by Anonymous||reply 577||January 13, 2022 3:52 PM|
Serbians are well known for their corruption, thievery, xenophobia, and violence.
Nato had to start bombing Serbia over 20 years ago as they started killing off Kosavars/Albanians/everyone else.
Maybe it's time to drop a few more.
|by Anonymous||reply 578||January 13, 2022 3:56 PM|
Alex Hawke is a Hillsong attending grub.
In 2018, Hawke said he strongly supported new rules to allow religious schools to expel students who are gay, bisexual or transgender, warning that people of faith were under attack in Australia: "I don't think it's controversial in Australia that people expect religious schools to teach the practice of their faith and their religion. Hawke accused the first Muslim woman elected to parliament, Egyptian born Anne Aly, of thinking that "her diversity as something better than other people's diversity". When challenged on these statements, Hawke responded by saying that Labor were "feigning outrage and falsely claiming racism" in order to shut down debate, and that they were "fixated on identity politics and appears constantly triggered by anything and everything. At least his wife had the good sense to leave him.
|by Anonymous||reply 579||January 13, 2022 4:02 PM|
Everything I am learning about this Joker is awful. And the worst part is he will learn nothing from this and just become a bigger egomaniac.
|by Anonymous||reply 580||January 13, 2022 4:02 PM|
I have an idea, R575. Until your English proficiency is sufficient, refrain from posting here. In return I promise not to post on any boards in which the primary language of discourse derives from Eastern Europe or Russia.
|by Anonymous||reply 581||January 13, 2022 4:04 PM|
Of course that post Yugoslav countries are corrupt as fuck. But the problem here was not even caused by Serbia, but by Australia, with conflicted interest of AO and state Victoria who allowed the exemption and the PM, who has to satisfy his voters before elections.
And for the people on the high level is it different elsewhere? Is Prince Andrew protected by the Uk authorities, even though he is a suspect in a much more serious case. And all the American big shot Epstein guys, is press after their blood too?
The other interesting things that I have noticed on this thread is that he is hated more for being Serb than for his alleged crimes.
|by Anonymous||reply 582||January 13, 2022 4:06 PM|
R581 I don't give a damn about racist scum like you. If you were more intelligent you would understand my poor English. You are just to angry that you are not allowed to hate Blacks anymore. Go to therapist to discuss about your father, who hurt you the most.
|by Anonymous||reply 583||January 13, 2022 4:10 PM|
That's ridiculous. R582. Some of the most beloved players on DL are Serbian: Djere and Seles for starters.
|by Anonymous||reply 584||January 13, 2022 4:10 PM|
R583, that's laughable. My favorite players are FAA and Monfils. I understand your poor English. It's just painful to read.
|by Anonymous||reply 585||January 13, 2022 4:12 PM|
So is he out. Holding up the draw is a big deal. I don't think they'd do that unless they thought there was a good chance he'd be kicked out of the country this time.
|by Anonymous||reply 586||January 13, 2022 4:16 PM|
R585 You don't understand a shit, because you are stupid. If you weren't such low life trash the parents would have taught you that only miserable idiots mock foreigner's language skills. You might be a native speaker but your English is also poor, it shows your low level of education.
|by Anonymous||reply 587||January 13, 2022 4:17 PM|
R57, I'm not mocking your language skills. I'm simply stating that it's not a great idea to post on a board when one lacks proficiency in the primary language being used on that board. Accordingly I wouldn't post on a board with Serbian or Russian as the primary language being used. If I did, I would fully expect others to mock my poor language skills. I would take your last sentence seriously if there were any there there.
|by Anonymous||reply 588||January 13, 2022 4:26 PM|
Of course you can not post anywhere because you don't know a word of any foreign language and you are hardly speaking your own language.
I bet you will advise the Mexicans not to come to US if they don't speak excellent English.
Just skip my posts if you are so xenophobic and we will both be satisfied.
|by Anonymous||reply 589||January 13, 2022 4:30 PM|
R587, that is.
|by Anonymous||reply 590||January 13, 2022 4:30 PM|
Once again, the only argument these diseased antivaxxer Nazis have is “you’re so mean!”
After all the death they’ve brought to this world, and we’re just being mean to point it out to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 591||January 13, 2022 4:33 PM|
Hardly, R589. I've traveled to five continents, aced the English exams at UCLA, and I speak German, French and some Spanish. But you do you.
|by Anonymous||reply 592||January 13, 2022 4:34 PM|
NATO should have never intervened in the Balkan Wars. Not until they killed even more of each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 593||January 13, 2022 4:36 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 594||January 13, 2022 4:37 PM|
It's weird how this Bosnian pretending to be Croatian just invents random insults like someone hating black people or being a Nazi or having low education and just throws them around as if he's making some big point or getting in a good dig.
Like, let's just make up nonsense and toss it at someone and pretend that they're whatever and that'll really hurt them!!!
It's like he sees American media and has all such insults in a file called "Woke" in his brain but is so addled he thinks that he's found the list of insults to call any American and that means he can automatically win any argument. Who cares about facts, it's all about fallacies with him, and you know that EVERYTHING he is slinging at people are things he is actually guilty of. Classic and massive projection.
I've never seen anyone so fueled by bile and rage for no reason. It's sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 595||January 13, 2022 4:40 PM|
Thankfully, have had no real life encounters with Serbs. Yet, if NoVaxx Djoker and the hateful troll here are representative of Serbia, what a nightmare place it must be. (Telling that NoVaxx no longer lives there.)
The hateful troll believes that English speakers aren’t or can’t be polyglots.
What an idiot!
From now on, will ignore the hateful troll: time and energy is wasted on his delusions and repeated posts of ignorant garbage (and poor English).
|by Anonymous||reply 596||January 13, 2022 4:42 PM|
I have no reason to post misinformation, R594, but I do apologize to the others for getting off topic.
Here's to a Djokovic loss in the first round to Kecmanovic, a very likeable Serb.
|by Anonymous||reply 597||January 13, 2022 4:43 PM|
The Croat at r554 is typical of the Balakan disdain for rules and tolerance for corruption. To him, Novax does deserve special treatment because he's better than us mere plebs. I won't be surprised if it came out that the Serbs faked his resuls.
|by Anonymous||reply 598||January 13, 2022 4:50 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 599||January 13, 2022 4:55 PM|
“It was as if I were watching a film - a long interrogation with instructions such as ‘undress, get dressed’. Yuck, I don’t even want to think about it, let alone live it again,” Voracova told Russian newspaper Denik, adding that she burst into tears during questioning which lasted up to six hours.
Voracova has vowed to demand compensation from Tennis Australia, including the 60,000 Czech crowns (£2,000) she spent on her flight for herself and her coach to Australia.
“And then there is all that time, hotels, training for the grand slam, the potential prize money,” added Voracova. “I hope Tennis Australia will face up to it and that we won’t have to take legal steps. I’m not thinking about tennis. I’m still waking up from the shock, I haven’t processed it yet. I’m exhausted.”
--- Australia is probably going to have to pay up to her if they let Djoker off.
|by Anonymous||reply 600||January 13, 2022 4:59 PM|
Looks like typical political buck-passing. Tennis authorities waiting for government to kick him out, politicians waiting for tennis authorities to do it. Nobody wants to take the heat for it, everyone stalling, waiting for the other guy to do it. Nice to know politicians are the same everywhere.
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