Ben Affleck: I would’ve ‘still’ been drinking if I’d stayed married to Jennifer Garner

Blame Jen. He like his brother Casey are big old drunks!

I guess DLers were right when they accused Garner of pricking the condom to trap Affleck.

It's Garner's fault. She's the worst.

Some people just bring out the worst in you and you have to get the fuck away from them, for your own mental and emotional health. They may not want to hear it or deal with it but that's reality.

He is an ass. I think she’s a lot less perfect than she seems, but he really is an ass, always looking to blame someone else. “Trapped”? Come on.

That’s what happens, Ben, when you marry according to your br-a-a-nd.

This was choice right here:

[quote]I’m not going to do anything that’s painful or destructive to [my kids] IF I CAN HELP IT.”

Entitled, selfish, arrogant, deluded douche nozzle.

[quote]“Part of why I started drinking was because I was trapped.”

He makes it sound like he was a teetotaler before then.

But... but - well, she's always going to church!

In LA, for God's sake.

Is he Hollywood sober?

Seriously r8. Affleck had been a problem drinker for many years before he met Garner.

I can't stand Jennifer Garner's pious, martyr, long-suffering, and goody-two-shoes image. I think she did try to make Ben into something that he wasn't. Tried to make herself half of the power couple with children.

That said, he's full of shit as well. In photos (even photos that look staged), he looks miserable with his kids. He said that in one day, he "made amends" with his kids. Typical asshole thinking he can clean his slate in one day. Takes longer for some kids to trust again.

Now, he's back with JLo? What's different this time around?

IMO, he will drink again, he will end up with hookers again.

[quote]“Part of why I started drinking was because I was trapped.”

Asshole, you started drinking when Reagan was President. Don't blame your marriage.

He also calls fame a "cross to bear" and an "albatross." Says the press printed horrible lies. Yet he still partakes in pap strolls! Still lives in L.A. Go to hell, Ben.

I will always Love Ben Affleck. He is a good kind man despite his flaws.

Shitty person says shitty thing.

He was known for being a lush before he married Garner.

So, why did he marry her, have kids with her, stay in the marriage so long if it was such a burden. I get feeling trapped but honey, get out if you don't want to be there.

I like Ben but blaming it on the marriage is ... pretty rough. Addiction is a disease and it started before Jennifer G.

Yeah like mega cunt j.ho is such an upgrade, I'm guessing she let's him do what he wants as long as he does the cringey photo-ops with the paps.

He was in rehab in 2001.

It tells me he isn’t working on his addiction if he’s still blaming it on factors outside himself.

Exactly, R21. I know a lot of addicts. They sound ridiculous blaming everybody for the most ridiculous things.

Team Jennifer

He is complete trash.

They're both assholes.

Unless he said; Garner trapped me or made me feel trapped. He’s not blaming her. He’s articulating his own personal feelings.

It’s pointless to even attempt to tell someone else what to feel or how to feel.

Never a good sign when you try to blame someone else for your drinking problems.

What a guy! Humiliating the mother of your children is always a smart move.

Is he angry with Jen G? Latest photos show him engrossed in conversation with her and widely gesticulating.

Regardless of the players, this comes across as a passive-aggressive move and incredibly unkind to his ex-wife and kids.

I hate that he's viewed as a liberal mouthpiece. He's such a pud. I mean better than Ted Nugent or Rob Schneider, butvwhat a low bar

[quote] Never a good sign when you try to blame someone else for your drinking problems.

[quote] Is he angry with Jen G? Latest photos show him engrossed in conversation with her and widely gesticulating. Regardless of the players, this comes across as a passive-aggressive move and incredibly unkind to his ex-wife and kids.

Unless he said; Garner trapped me or made me feel trapped. He’s not blaming her. He’s articulating his own personal feelings.

It’s pointless to even attempt to tell someone else what to feel or how to feel.

However he felt in the marriage is simply how he felt. His feelings made him unhappy or made him drink or whatever, not Garner.

I'm sure by "made amends" with his kids he meant promised to buy them a PS5, new clothes, and a fleet of cars when they turn 16.

What about the gambling, coke, and sex addictions? Leaving those out conveniently I guess.

He is an alcoholic because a woman "trapped" him?! He was probably drunk during that interview. Any woman with any sense and a shred of dignity now knows he's damaged and to stay away.

[quote] What about the gambling, coke, and sex addictions? Leaving those out conveniently I guess.

Gambling, coke, and sex are separate issues. JLo is to blame for gambling. Page Six is working on a follow-up article about JLo's role in Ben's woes.

If anything, Garner cleaned him up for a short while.

What a piece of motherfucking shit he is.

And if he’s actually sober, I’ll eat my hat.

Boring hetero drama. Let me know when he talks about sucking off Matt Damon dick.

Shouldn't Benny be blaming his alcoholic, abusive dad instead of his ex-wife, for being an alcoholic? I mean, if he wasn't going to be a big boy and take responsibility for being an alcoholic himself.

He's NOT viewed as a liberal mouthpiece, r30. Some people need to inject politics into every single conversation. It's like a mental illness.

He’s such an arrogant ass. “I knew I was a good dad” - that’s not for him to judge.

"I respect her so much, and yet, I was

[bold]T R A P P E D[/bold]

in that marriage. And being married to her made me an alcoholic and would have kept me an alcoholicuntil I metaphorically gnawed my own foot off to get free.

But I respect her totally as the mother of my children!"

--Ben

R41 He's viewed as a privileged, spoiled good-looking white boy who had it easy considering his marginal talent and substance abuse issues. Without the help of Matt Damon, The Weinsteins, Kevin Smith, his more talented brother and fellow attention hoes Jen Garner and JHo, he would not be nowhere near as famous as he is.

Freed from the TRAP of Jennifer Garner.

Did JLo answer his questions for him? He’s sleazy. Imagine ANYONE saying their job is a cross to bear? He has the maturity of a 12 year old girl.

R12 - [quote]I can't stand Jennifer Garner's pious, martyr, long-suffering, and goody-two-shoes image. I think she did try to make Ben into something that he wasn't. Tried to make herself half of the power couple with children.[/quote]

Exactly what I was thinking. She strikes me as someone who is "nice", but is constantly looking for ways to fix and cure the men around her.

I usually don't listen to Stern's interviews because they are so boring and he tries to turn it into a therapy session, but I couldn't tear myself away.

Sure, Ben was a motor mouth, but what he had to say was fascinating and so painfully honest. It felt very raw and cathartic. It was refreshing to hear a celebrity admit to all his failings and how much public opinion hurt him and his career. His childhood was a nightmare.

The kind words he had to say about Robin Williams was very touching and seemed genuine.

I wouldn't want to be trapped by him at a party since he talks so much, but I have some new found respect for him.

He felt trapped? I guess that is why he was screwing the kids Nanny!

He felt trapped in his marriage so he drank and yet he had addictions before his marriage. Does he not know the internet exists and we can look these things up? What a moron.

I actually appreciated his recent turn in The Last Duel. Affleck was surprisingly good; although think it’s no coincidence he plays a wealthy, smug (funny) douche.

Oh Ben....Ben....,,why do you do such STOOPID things and sabotage yourself and those that care for you?

I think the clock is ticking on this one.

He shouldn't be badmouthing her to the world. TMI.

Wasn't his father an alcoholic? It bewilders me when alkies with relatives who are alkies try to blame it on someone - no, honey, it's probably your genes.

if you read in between the lines, she clearly was OK with him drinking himself to death. She knew he had a substance abuse problem. He was using again and despite having, i dunno, tens of millions in resources and multiple homes, she didn't leave with the kids.

Its always interesting when you have people who dont know how to or dont care to create boundaries. she is clearly one of them. She is not the reason he's an addict but any spouse in that situation has to put their foot down in terms of "get help/go to rehab or the marriage is over".

R55 I've always read that she's been the one constantly trying to get him help and getting him to rehab. The article below is just one example of that. So weird that you made that up, to blame her? Why?

I dont know what the articles say and I dont really care because they're the story that the couple wants to put out. In a relationship addict who wont get help, either you leave or you don't. The begging to go to rehab stage should be short lived and can only really occur once in a relationship. once the addict has relapsed, it's rehab or GTFO.

I dont blame her for his problems. Maybe she would have left him. Never know. Never a bad time to remind people how to create boundaries with addicts in their lives though, which is why i responded

R57 Did you notice that she was intervening and taking him to rehab when they weren't even together? That's right, he was drinking when he wasn't even with her and was dating some other woman. But she was still trying to get him help.

R58, he's still drinking.

And let him stink up the car with fucking Jack in the Box. R58

Ben Affleck: If I hadn't been into SUCKING COCK and GETTING FUCKED UP THE ASS I'd still be married to Jennifer Garner.

In terms of insufferability, I can see Garner being only one notch below AnnE Hathaway.

But this is known as the "blame the bitch" syndrome, and it's really unwise to say in public, especially at this particular cultural moment.

[quote] Did you notice that she was intervening and taking him to rehab when they weren't even together? That's right, he was drinking when he wasn't even with her and was dating some other woman. But she was still trying to get him help.

Not R57, but I did notice that. He's still the father of her children. But it seemed like she still wanted him back as a husband, not just as a father.

Their divorce took forever, years. She (J. Garner) never dated anyone else. She was doing her weekly pap strolls to church and seemed to be loving the attention. She got off on being a faithful savior. That's not sexy.

She’s too good for him.

Rumor mill - he is back drinking.

I really do not think it’s because of anybody else, but his own dysfunctional doing.

When has he ever stopped drinking?

Classic video of a totally shitfaced Ben Affleck.

^^Ben Affleck IS my drunk douchebag brother-in-law in that video.

Frankly, JLo seems way more high-maintenance than J. Garner. He'll soon feel "trapped" again.

[quote]what he had to say was fascinating and so painfully honest. It felt very raw and cathartic.

Not when you know a lot of what he's saying is a lie.

R67 do you know the year?

^^2016

He is going to look like a dumb ass when we all find out he was never sober. He will profusely apologize to Jennifer, stating he was drunk at the time of this interview.

“Part of why I started drinking was because I was trapped.”

Started drinking?? I think you're being disingenuous, Ben! Weren't you doing that before and after the marriage? Your default setting is drinking/whoring. Blaming someone else - and doing it publicly too, tut-tut - shows you've learned nothing at all.

Jennifer Garner is a serial cheater who got knocked up by Affleck who married her. It was an unhappy marriage that went on too long. There is nothing he said in the Howard Stern interview that his kids don’t already know.

I mean, this is shitty to say when his kids will see it. He doesn’t have to make this public.

But yeah- Garner is a phony with bad lip filler.

Ben and JenG always seemed too neat, too pat. I kind of felt the same way about JLo and Marc Anthony.

I don’t blame Jennifer but guys like Ben Affleck who are wild will marry and settle down with Betty Crocker thinking it will change their ways and that’s why they feel “trapped”, which isn’t her fault.

Had Ben partnered with Matt would Ben have turned out to be such a fuck up?

I pray he finds Jesus (said like Margaret White with one hand in the air)

This thread makes it certain that a bunch of non-binary autistic loons have taken over the board. Fuck, everything is not black & white. He had a drinking problem, wanted to stop and the marriage was adding to the destructive cycle, by all you idiots way of thinking heroin addicts should stay in the opium den and “take accountability to work on themselves”.

r81 got triggered

R82 very triggered. Who’s the loon now? R81

More people are reading about this than listened to the Stern broadcast.

What is actually wrong with him? He has been in the media long enough to know how this would sound. I haven’t seen one of his movies in ages so I have no idea what fans he’s trying to appeal to. It seems like more of his self destructive nature.

Most men by their nature are self-destructive. Saying that is like saying nothing at all. Why not also comment on how females are natural born cunts? LOL. State the obvious much?

R35 is JLo a gambler too?

BTW, Ben is not aging well and being with JLo shows him up as scruffy. Is he really sober? For decades he's looked perpetually hungover to me. There's been some pretty fug pics of him lately, too.

Straight men? I’m not self destructive.

JLo seems so fucking pathetic. She's rich, she's gorgeous, but she can't exist without a man. She was done with ARod for what...a month? before climbing back onboard Ben? And a bloated alchy ex is the best she can do?

[quote]He also calls fame a "cross to bear" and an "albatross." Says the press printed horrible lies.

I think he means fame is a cross to bear etc. for his kids.

The kids might have issues with the divorce and media but nepotism is alive and well in HW so the kids will be more than OK.

He's the biggest pussy who's ever pussied. He and Jennifer Lopez deserve each other.

LOL What a fag.

He’s my homeboy.

The closet kills!

JLo can dress him up, but he'll always be a trainwreck.

A decent person would never say this sort of thing about the mother of their children. Ben is not a decent person and it's tragic that he doesn't realize how this makes HIM look.

My prediction: In about four to five years, Ben will do another interview and this time he will blame JLo for his relapse and continuous drinking.

If he alienates his kids over this thing, he'll have no one to bring to JLo's family photo ops and pap strolls.

I cannot understand why Jennifer Lopez would want anything to do with him. Ben really is an all-around talented loser.

How does Howard still get all these guests? Do people really listen to his show?

The whole "JLo" thing just doesn't have the same juice it did the first time around. Hard to imagine who gets excited about them, and that includes them.

R99, Alex Rodriguez was no prize, either.

Typical addict behavior. Always looking to blame someone in order to avoid taking responsibility.

So much for taking responsibility for your own addiction.

He is such an insufferable asshole.

Wowwwwwww. This is a massive misstep for him. He’s going to be eating this shit sandwich for months. How incredibly insulting. He just never learns, does he? Blaming Garner for his drinking problem is a new low, even for him. What a fucking idiot. She basically completely rehabbed his image and got him a second Oscar. J Lo will be seeking an exit for the second time after this debacle.

He's such a dumbass, and I don't buy for a minute that he's sober.

The people who navigate drug/alcohol recovery successfully are the ones who actually are able to take responsibility for themselves and their choices. The ones who continually blame others wind up going back to whatever their drug of choice is.

There are also some typical enabler/codependent comments defending him. So he didn’t blame Jennifer specifically, he blamed the marriage. Semantics.

He was a stumbling, hooker snatch-eating, alcoholic mess with JLo (part 1), with Shookus, with his kid's Nanny, and with DeArmas. But it's all Garner's fault. Sure, Jan.

Ben is a privileged wealthy white man, with lots of resources. He needs to get his shit together, stop bad mouthing his children's mother and get his life together for once and for all.

I don't tend to feel bad for people like Ben. I just can't!

This says to me, like others in this thread, that he’s using again. Blaming his addition on the “trapped” situation he was in instead of the vulnerability of admitting “drinking is something I’m unable to do in a healthy way, ever” frees him up to justify to himself that it’s ok for him to drink now when he’s “happy.”

I also think he problems run a lot deeper than alcohol. Lainey Gossip has her problems and credibility issues, but she used to hint back in the day that he got caught up in a heroin addiction.

This can't do his career any good, can it? It seems social media has been the undoing of some celebs because they overshare. Their publicists must be pulling their hair out to find out about it after the fact and can only engage in damage control.

Maybe he and Matt are competing to see which of them can be quoted being the biggest shithead. So far, Matt's still in the lead! Unless Ben also said something horribly shitty about one of his kids in the Stern interview that hasn't been released yet? Then, he'd nudge into first place.

He’d probably be dead.

Wow Ben, how gentlemanly you are ….these celebrities are always blaming someone else rather than admit that they are in essence scum bags.

Ben's timing couldn't be better either with JOld warbling "Marry Me!" on the internet 24/7 and Xmas 'happy families season' around the corner. PR is sure going to be working for their money this month.

r105 Um......Ben is J.Lo's "exit."

I remember when Ana de Armas apparently finally figured out how screwed up Ben was and left, a "source" was quoted in People making it sound like Ben and Ana could have stayed together if it hadn't been for those pesky kids. Very tacky.

[quote]"Ben is no longer dating Ana," a source tells PEOPLE. "She broke it off. Their relationship was complicated. Ana doesn't want to be Los Angeles based and Ben obviously has to since his kids live in Los Angeles."

Most Leos think they are perfect and any suggestion otherwise is met with fury and denial. He's an addict but "knows" he's a great Dad...he was forced to cope with his oppressive marriage by drinking himself under the table every night, my god, can you blame him???

He has never done anything wrong in his entire life, it's his marvelousness that causes problems.

He went back to that other notorious Leo egomaniac JLo, birds of a feather and all.

Don't get me started on Capricorns.

Why do these celebrities share personal details of their relationships like this? Garner is a celebrity too and he’s putting this out in public about his ex, also a public figure. So shitty.

Didn't Victor Garber officiate at Affleck and Garner's wedding?

In that Deflategate interview posted upthread, he's really fired up and angry about the football rules. You can get an idea of what he's like at his worst, fired up over personal matters.

Ben has Boston meathead syndrome. He’s always going to be a blowhard idiot.

Has anyone heard the actual Stern interview?

I heard clips from it and Ben sounded drunk, majorly slurring his words.

Rolling my eyes at the people shrieking "think of the children". His kids are basically teenagers. They're capable of understanding that not every marriage is happy. They had to realize their parents got divorced for a reason. I don't think he's saying anything outlandish. His marriage sucked and that made it easier to be an alcoholic. He's hardly blaming Garner for all of his problems.

Ben Hoofleck

I wonder if any of his kids inherited the alcohol gene

(Yet another) rehab in 3, 2, 1 . . .

[quote]Rolling my eyes at the people shrieking "think of the children". His kids are basically teenagers. They're capable of understanding that not every marriage is happy.

The kids are 9, 12. and 16. At first, I thought what a way to alienate his children.

The oldest probably has enough memories of drunk, asshole Ben being his sloppy, passed out, incoherent self, and not giving a fuck enough about his family compared to his need to consume alcohol with the missed family occasions and later stepping out with the babysitter. I think the bewilderment and pain she's felt because daddy preferred alcohol to her and her mother is deeply felt and she probably knows his whatever step "amends" are superficial bullshit.

The younger ones? I don't know how sheltered they were, but, of course, the younger ones know less. Some even idolize absent parents. Rather than alienation, I wonder if they'll adopt their father's tactic and blame their mother for their ills once they do become teens. "Momma's a bad wife and drove my daddy away, so that's why I crashed my Mercedes SUV all by myself in Brentwood."

Dysfunctionalality all around. Wouldn't it be amusing if one of the kids has a fallout with the parent who actually acts like a parent and wants to move in with Ben and JLo? Snicker.

Which kid was it who was filmed totally refusing to hug him a couple of years ago, on one of their pap strolls? He went in for a "fatherly" squeeze so the paps could get a pic of him being a Great Dad Ben! and she shut him down like the power grid in Texas during a snowstorm. I don't know the difference between the oldest or the middle child but whichever one it was, she is my little hero.

R129 - The two oldest are girls, the 9 year old is a boy.

The kids will never have to work a day in their lives and they'll always be wealthy, so there's that.

Affleck and Lopez are such pathetic attention whores. Fuck 'em.

They don't need to work which gives their heads lots of time to obsess about Ben's shitiness and help to drive them into their own addictive strains.

Addiction to work and productivity often distract and keep other demons at bay. Let's see what happens to this family.

When he got his oscar for Argo, he publicly insulted Garner during his Oscar speech. The camera cut to her and she looked devastated. I'm surprised she would want anything to do with him. I'm not a Garner fan but I felt sorry for her when he did that.

Oh well

Which one is responsible for the name Seraphina?

To say he felt trapped in his marriage was merely tacky given the kids. But to blame Garner for his drinking was loathsome as well as vile given the truckload of evidence available to the entire world that he was a major lush long before Garner. Is anyone that stupid? Or is it classic addict self-delusion in which he's convinced himself of the lie?

Whoops, meant "stupid as well as vile," in R137. So stupid to say that given all the documentation out there of his pre-Garner alcoholic embarrassments. What is he displaying telling a whopper like that?

[quote]Ben Affleck: I would’ve ‘still’ been drinking if I’d stayed married to Jennifer Garner

Such a gentleman.

The is just like when Brad Pitt said he was bored as well being married to Jennifer Aniston. He had to publicly apologize. Affleck will probably have to do the same. The fraus on social media are furious.

This spells the end of him with JLo. She doesn’t want bad publicity. Is Ben even sober? Cause now that’s what people are gonna think.

It sucks having an alcoholic parent.

Just a thought: If he had married JLo the first time around, would he still be eating random stripper snatch on a card table in Vegas, in front of strangers and reporters for the National Enquirer?

You know, just asking, since Benny likes to blame his ladies for when he's naughty.

Come on.

Jennifer has to be good. She's a mom. Dick-head Ben is a knob and always has been.

If she intervened, it's not because she's a relationship addict, but because she knows that if Daddy goes out on a whiskey binge, her kids are going to be fucked up for the rest of their lives.

I know someone who chose to die of alcoholism rather than sober up for their kids. The kids just hate themselves and have a massive identity crisis. Ben is a knob.

Any man who can stay sober around a woman is a homosexual.

R143, of course not!

She would’ve had him murdered.

[quote]The two oldest are girls, the 9 year old is a boy.

I think the youngest daughter (Seraphina) is trans.

[quote] Jennifer has to be good. She's a mom.

I hope you're being ironic because that is such a ridiculous, reductive "frau-y" generalization. It can be put on a bumper sticker that a Jennifer Garner-like soccer mom has on her SUV she uses to take her brood to church.

What was Stern's response to all this? Trapped in an unhappy marriage with three kids, that was his problem too.

He's a fucking mess. He hasn't killed himself ONLY because he has kids.

Supposedly ben and Jennifer Garner were sort of arguing/disagreeing with each other outside their child's school because he might have problems with the child being trans

The link is just to a video, but there has been speculation about what they were fighting about on the internet

Nice of him to care about his kids now instead of drinking, drugging, and the nanny's pussy.

I doubt their kid is trans.

Ben, what an insufferable twat you are. Oh. Oh my. I forgive you.

(On forgiveness, Jen G. and your kids are another matter entirely.)

J Ho throwing him under the bus

R129 i think it was Violet. I wish i could find the gif of it.

You remember it too R156? If it was Violet, she's my favorite Affleck kid. She hates her fatfuck, drunktard dad so much, I adore her little black heart.

R153, you obviously don't know what you are talking about

From left to right, Ben's son Sam, JLo's daughter and Ben's child Seraphina

He's on Kimmel and coming across very poorly. He's not sober.

On Kimmel he's saying they took a clip from the Stern interview and took it out of context.

He looks bad on Jimmy Kimmel. His eyes are glassy and his gestures with his arms and hands are weird.

NOT surprising he blames JG. I can no longer count how many men I've heard say their nagging wife drove them to drink. It's such a cop out. Especially sad in his case, as JG is responsible for the intervention.

She had been kind enough over the years to remain amicable, and IMHO, went above and beyond any reasonable expectation to help him: i.e. ensuring he wouldn't drive at times, picking his soaked arse up, going to drive thru's to pick up food (which she did on the night of the intervention, before she DROVE him to the Malibu rehab centre.

She's said many kind things about him in the press, when she could have easily done the opposite. Like JG or not, is this the thanks she really deserves?

No respect, and no responsibility taken. Was his gambling addiction her fault as well?

Fuck this schmuck.

I believe him, I saw her on a talk show years and years ago and she seems insufferable. She thinks she's better than Martha Steward, she even said that. The way she was going on about the way she does chores and cook and household shit.

I'm sure she ordered him around and had him on a short leash.

I bet he's been to rehab about a dozen times

Don’t those types go to rehab to get “healthy” so they can keep drinking?

oh please, they are not gonna be talking about their kid being trans on a public street, use your fucking head.

They are probably arguing about school shit, schedules and stuff.

[quote] She thinks she's better than Martha Steward

As does GOOP. Affleck must have a masochistic streak.

R163 Yeah I kinda believe him too.

or R165 they do more coke so they can keep drinking

Affleck and Chris Pratt are really a couple of cunts toward their exes.

Ben's near tears explanation on Kimmel won't do much good to change already formed opinions.

The big winner in this is Howard Stern, whose name is suddenly relevant again.

R148

This is why your generation is so fucked up. You can't deal with simple.

Jennifer can't go on a whiskey binge like Ben. She has to keep a regular lifestyle, go shopping for decent food, take her kids to school, the doctor's, the dentist, must attend school concerts and plays, must prepare food for holidays etc. etc. etc.

This is what I meant by "good." It is a pain in the ass to keep up this routine for the kids, but it's something you do for them. You do make sacrifices. This is what I call good. And, no, I wasn't being ironic.

Who should Ben get with next after JLow? What about Demi Lovato? Wouldn't that be a shitshow.

R174 Lindsay Lohan

R173 Mothers also become drunks and druggies. Happens all the time. You're living in a dream world if you think motherhood somehow is protection from that.

Yeah, they do. But the reality is that the majority of childcare falls on the mother.

Where does the JLo kid above get that curly mop of hair? Is it from Marc Anthony's side of the family?

I wonder if this whole howdy-do is Ben's passive-aggressive way of getting JLo to dump him. Then he can have a little fling with the booze, the broads, and the dope and when he's ready Clooney can drive him to rehab. Clooney must be going mental that the star of his latest movie is imploding.

R178, they got that hair from their mama. Do you really think her hair is shiny, golden, and straight naturally?

I can believe that his words were taken out of context. I can believe that what he really meant was that he dealt with the problems in his marriage by drinking rather than handling it like an adult. But it was just fucking idiotic to talk about his bad marriage at all and on Howard Stern of all places. He really has a self destructive streak.

They all look trans R158.

Bingo r178. My thoughts exactly. What better way to get JOld off his back.

R182, seeing as how this is an arrangement by their PR teams, I'm guessing he is doing this to get out of the contract since he can still have all the whores and coke he wants. JLo only did it for publicity after the A-Rod thing.

Ben expected this to be his comeback year, and instead his two films are getting ignored. That’s when he usually starts one of his off the wagon runs.

JOld didn't bet on Ben bailing out on her this quickly, this spectacularly lol, r183. Now she's got 2 horribly failed public and embarrassing 'faux-romances' to manage and somehow turn around into a good news story. Problem is who is her next 'target'? Must say Ben is a genius for using Christmas as a backdrop for the public dump.

Guess JOld is going to have put away the Daddy tartan PJs this Xmas.

If he felt unhappy and trapped in his marriage a feeling's a feeling and there's nothing wrong with that. Though, the high road would be to stay classy and refrain from saying that about your kids' mother to a shock-jock on the radio. (And might we add, the first kid could have been an accident, but did anybody trick him into the rest of them? This guys is a truly a professional at evading responsibility for HIS OWN choices.)

But connecting his drinking to his marital discontent is moronic as well as vile, since it's so dishonest. This clown's been an alkie's alkie and a compulsive's compulsive from way back. and the whole world knows it. How did he win an Oscar as a director? It boggles the mind.

Maybe I’m giving Lopez too much credit but I’m surprised she’d allow someone like Affleck near her kids.

Why did Ben receive a Best Supporting Actor Golden Globe nomination for "The Tender Bar" when he's the lead?

Lopez has shitty taste in men. A-rod was a known cheater. This is her second go with Ben, knowing full well he's an addict, cheating, nanny fucking sleaze with a temper. You are definitely giving her too much credit.

R109, Rodriguez didn’t cheat on Lopez in front of her children and his cheating likely didn’t affect his personality or behavior or potentially put them at risk of accident or injury. I’ll rephrase my comment,I am surprised Lopez would allow an addict with a history of public drunkenness around her children.

^ that’s meant for R189.

Last night on Jimmy Kimmel

R176

Not to belabor the point, but there was no generalization from my post. I was talking about Jennifer Garner, not all mothers.

But kudos for you for making the outstanding observation that some mothers are drunks and druggies. I mean, wow, you should be a sociologist or something.

Jen G had been so obsessed with Ben the aging fratboy, who probably had no plans to marry at all. What actually made her think that Ben is dad and husband material, who knows. How she re-fashioned herself into super frau mama when she was a typical super ambitious man-eating starlet who cheated and upgraded boyfriends is probably why Ben lost interest in their marriage.

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Gurl, pleated jeans are NOT your friend!

I love Ben, through all the ups and downs. And you just know he’s a man’s man. He likes pleasure. I’d love to know how many men have had his cock in their mouths. I’m sure it’s more than one. I know he’s not gay, but I bet he enjoys a blowjob from someone who really knows.

Hi, Matty!

Affleck is Jlo’s shiksa.

What a scumbag this guy is. If only he was talented. Blaming his ex-wife and mother of his kids in the medias says a lot about who he is and proves that he is not cured from alcoholism. Because an alcoholic knows that alcoholism is a disease and that no one is to blame.

I guess he feels invulnerable because he's back with his ex. I'm sorry Ben, but I remember very well you having addiction problems before you got married. Asshole.

I'd still go with Affleck if given the chance. I don't give a crap about his personal life, I leave that for the rag magazines and newspapers. Just fuck me already. He is Still a good-looking guy.

He’s still dreamy. And I have been where he is feeling trapped. (With another man, not woman lol) and I did feel the need to be stoned and drunk most of the time. And she seems like a nagging bitch that never shuts up, so who can blame him?

He’s also the type of straight man that would let you flirt with him, and he’d be cute with it, and may even pretend flirt back a little bit. I love those types.

[Quote]Maybe I’m giving Lopez too much credit but I’m surprised she’d allow someone like Affleck near her kids.

She probably rationalizes by telling herself that it's OK as long as she's around to supervise, that he's a father too, her kids can meet his, blah, blah, blah. The problem isn't that the kids are exposed to him; it's that their mother has chosen to date such a low quality man and sends all sorts of wrong messages to her kids. Substance abuse, a gambling addiction, and indiscriminate sex and cheating -- the trifecta of what not to choose in a mate. "Mom, tell us about the time Ben cheated on you by giving drunken head to the stripper." Seriously, Marc Anthony was sleazy in his own right, but he wasn't as bad as Affleck.

Garner is an interesting creature. From ambitious starlet climbing the Hollywood ladder, cheating on progressively more famous men to finally be part of an A+ list couple to boring church going frau. It's curious that she hasn't been romantically connected to anyone (unless I missed it).

Ben Affleck is what he is: A drunkass Masshole. I grew up near the Boston area and guys like Ben are a dime a dozen.

They're GREAT fucks, btw.

R205 - Absolutely true. Bostonian here too. These men are hot, even if drunken wife beaters.

[quote]These men are hot, even if drunken wife beaters.

That is what I always said

Thanks r192 what a repellent douchebag.

He’s fucking wasted and it’s obvious.

Mrs. Affleck sure raised two asshole sons.

He's quite the charmer.

Ben did appear to be drunk on Kimmel

Jen Garner wa dating a CEO for a couple years, I don’t think they’re still together. She was very discreet.

I never really understood why he married Garner. Ridiculous for me to say since I don’t know them but she seemed so in love with him and I can’t recall him ever expressing any sort of passion for her.

A great fuck, really? He seems sloppy even if he can get that whisky dick up.

Affleck dates women to get publicity and to get papped. He's the King of calling the paps to record his every move. When he started dating Garner she was more famous than him - his career was in the tank. Since Garner, he had a paparazzi romance with Ana de Amas to try to advance both their careers. Now, of course, he's with the Queen of calling the paps: JLo.

If this were the 1960s, Affleck'd be on the cover of Photoplay every month and featuring in Hedda Hopper's column. He desperately wants to be a celebrity which is a realistic career goal for him as he can't act his way out of a paper bag. And his supposedly great directing talents are totally mediocre, the praise being the praise always heaped on actors trying to direct.

I always think Affleck's role in Dazed and Confused was who he truly is. With those tiny, pointy little teeth and massive gums he used to have.

[quote] His kids are basically teenagers.

The youngest is nine.

I admire that he told the truth. so many can't handle it these days.

That's how he felt. do you want him to lie and say all the PC shit?

c'mon...

yes, it's in bad taste but maybe that's who he is as a person, a straight shooter, not gonna sugar coat it etc. I do not know him but so what?

R217 if Affleck had been in rehab and had been successfully rehabilitated, he wouldn't be blaming his drinking on somebody else. He remains the cowardly little drunk he always was.

Hey, nobody's perfect. we are all "works in progress"

He's doing the best he can.

He should get a tat that says "only god can judge me"

Last time he got a tat was not successful.

The tell wasn't that he felt trapped in the marriage, marriage IS a trap, everyone wants to bust loose at one time or another. But Affleck said, "I'd still be drinking if I was married" which puts the blame for his alcoholism squarely on the marriage. He might have said, "maybe I could have saved the marriage if I sobered up" or "I was using the trapped feeling as an excuse to drink" which is what someone not in denial about their alcoholism would understand.

for whatever reason, he was unhappy and turned to drink or maybe he drank even more than usual to escape. He got himself out of that unhappy situation. good for him.

So why is he still drinking and drugging, Clever Clogs? Also, J-Lo has hardly ever been out with a man who isn't some type of addict, "sex addict" being the most benevolent. If she isn't on the gak, I'm the Queen of Sheba. One of them a "weekend warrior" when it comes to drugs ( Puffy) who outsources his children's care to relatives so that he can continue to "party and fuck on high" , two comorbid druggies and drunkards, one of whom is her kids' father, another a steroid user, but somehow J-Lo is Our Sanctified Mother Courage, Practically Protestant In Denial of Pleasures Other Than Cock?

I cannot blame celebrities for taking the piss with the dim minds of those predisposed towards being a stan. It would be rude not to, especially if untalented, but willing to give the gym a good go, everyday.

1 kid is an accident, 3 kids is a choice.

I've seen so many straight couples in awful marriages have a 3rd kid as a bandaid baby. It never works. They either divorce anyway or stay for the baby but loathe each other. I've seen this so many times that if I hear a couple is expecting a 3rd kid I automatically assume the marriage has gone downhill.

[quote]He’s still dreamy. And I have been where he is feeling trapped. (With another man, not woman lol) and I did feel the need to be stoned and drunk most of the time. And she seems like a nagging bitch that never shuts up, so who can blame him?

He's a shitty person. He could have left at any time. Instead he chose to treat her badly for many years, sit home and get drunk and high and expose his kids to all of it.

He's just like you. Weak. He blames everyone else for all the messes he created and only cares about himself.

R226 people who have 3 kids generally have that third kid because the first two are either both girls or both boys - Affleck obviously wanted a son.

If Affleck is not drinking now I would guess it's because of Antabuse. It takes enormous character for a true alcoholic to stop drinking. From those smutty photos of him and Lopez making out for his children to see I don't think that's him.

R221 i still love how he tried to deny it was real until Jen called him out on it in an interview 😆

I didn't realize that the Stern interview was via Zoom from California, so Ben made these statements around 5:00 AM.

[quote]I never really understood why he married Garner. Ridiculous for me to say since I don’t know them but she seemed so in love with him and I can’t recall him ever expressing any sort of passion for her.

They were both guests on the PBS series "Check Please!" that judged local eateries, where nominally famous people judged food and restaurants. It was hilarious how those two were SOOO into each other, barely aknowleding other more talented Epicurians at the table.

They could NOT take their eyes off each other or pretend to be interested in the topic. She got exactly what she preyed for, perhaps not quite getting what she was in for as the ex of an inveterate and hateful man who'd just rather "sit back" and judge for itself.

He looks tipsy on Kimmel.

r232 Do you mean "Dinner for Five" on IFC?

^ Ben's wig is obvious in that clip. Stars today are so boring

The Town and State of Play were both excellent films. If he needs booze to get to that level, then so be it.

R236 = Barbara Payton

^^who?

Uh oh Ben. Both the Jennifer’s are mad at him.

There's always Jennifer Aniston.

[quote]He looks tipsy on Kimmel.

That's disgusting, in my day, when you went on a talk show you had class

The biggest mistake this asshole made was talking to the press as if though they’re his pals and disclosing his inner feelings as if though this wouldn’t happen. Somehow, I just cannot believe ben would say something so stupid after he basically blamed his Bennifer 1.0 run, a negative thing which impacted his life horribly, and blamed it on his relationship with Jennifer lopez. Certainly he cannot be so stupid to this again? Except this time, it’s the mother of his kids?

And here I thought this guy’s smarter than this.

I do not believe that this is intentional. I do not believe he is actually blaming her. I believe he is saying that he is a huge codependent personality who stays in bad relationships because he was taught that being codependent and drunk is a better option than leaving a fiancé at the alter or dumping the mother of your children.

Ben drinks like a sow because he is codependent. Codependency is the root of all toxicity and evil, because it is disguised as the benevolent or right thing to do, in our broken and codependent society here in the United States. The problem with ben is that he doesn’t understand how to articulate this.

Millions of unhappy men run around in America, claiming to be good guys who would be even better guys if they hadn’t married their cunt wives. And plenty of these men do not drink a drop.

Men I America hate women. It’s a thing now, and just amongst incels, because this wife blaming bullshit is the fodder that workplace water cooler talk among men is made of.

Ben’s just being the white asshole man he is. This has zero to do with being a liberal. It’s a man thing, not a political thing. And conservative men as well as liberal men know this, straight or gay.

Don’t drink the kool aid. Ben is just being a guy and will be perfectly perfect again within a few days of this interview.

This is evidence that you cannot change a man. He is gonna be whoever he is gonna be, no matter what you do.

R242

What you're saying makes sense. It's depressing.

OK, is he actively off the wagon?

Like drunk or high in all his appearances? How can you tell?

Too bad Jenn G. dumped the nice boyfriend. I wonder if she regrets her choices.

My bet is that he is actually sober or handling/maintaining his booze appropriately, because Ben RARELY, if ever, speaks to the press when he is drinking uncontrollably, R245.

Also, please excuse my typos at R242.

Correction: “not just among incels”

Y’all get the gist of my rant.

Indeed, R215. He bitches about all the lies the media tell, but he's part of the lie with his idiotic pap strolls.

This latest bout of bad publicity is totally on him. Nothing was taken out of context; it was taken straight from his mouth. Wasted dumbass makes a wrong move then blames everyone but himself and his shit PR.

So what does he do next? Goes on Kimmel - wasted again or high on something - complaining that he was just being honest in a deep and meaningful conversation, and look what happened!! He's not as smart as he thinks he is.

R224, huh?

I know he’s not perfect, but I love Ben. He’s who I would want to be if I was straight. He’s not acting like he’s got life figured out; he’s vulnerable and shows his feelings, while still being masculine. I want to rescue him.

Everyone on here saying “why did he have three kids with her?” Those children were all a result of Jennifer’s scheming. Women get what they want by tricking the men. No straight man truly wants three children; they’ll have one to appease the woman and shut her up. She tricked him into the other two. I’ve discussed this with my straight brother and he agrees that men generally don’t want kids, and often regret it when they realize their freedom is over.

R251, hunty just because no one wanted your butt babies doesn't mean all men don't want kids. Most people men or women are too consumed with themselves and want to spread their seed/continue their (shitty) lines.

R251, In my family, I believe it was my father who wanted children more than my mother did.

What most men do not understand is what it is like to be a woman.

Here is something I’m gonna drop, and this drop specifically relates to women of all socioeconomic tiers, colors, ethnicity, religion, and race who are GOOD mothers or who have NOT had children either by choice or because of medical conditions:

Being a woman means that your ENTIRE TEENS, AND ADULTHOOD IS PREDICATED ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU BEAR CHILDREN.

The ability to hold a child inside your body and give it a life, is the biggest decision a woman will make. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING in our lives change DRAMATICALLY when we become pregnant. Our path is forever altered if we choose to have kids. Because it is the most expensive thing one can do.

Men bitch about having to help us financially with kids, whether they also wanted them or not. Once the relationship with the kid’s father ends, and it almost always will, we, the MOTHERS, are the ones who will have to raise and feed/clothe and shelter these kids under a roof, no matter what. That guy dies or ends up in prison or flees his financial responsibilities to his kids? We are fucked, as are those kids.

Ben should be BEYOND grateful that not only did he end up a millionaire, but he can also afford to care for those children in a way others cannot, as can his wife.

It’s a REALLY big deal.

Just think about that for a moment. Most men don’t even have to be good men and fathers and be present to raise their own kids, but us gals? We cannot just take off with someone on a yacht and get papped for a week. And that’s an example of very wealthy people.

And that said, Ben STILL lucked out and had children with a responsible and good mother.

I’m so happy I’m not a man. 😔

R254 - Very well written post, but I’m confused about the last line. “I’m so happy I’m not a man.” From the post, it seems like men have the easy, carefree life and women are stuck with the responsibilities. Doesn’t it seem like men have the ideal situation?

He had those kids with her because that's what he thought he was supposed to do as a "man". You get married, have a few kids. That's what most people do.

His life as a single man wasn't working out and he thought the marriage and kids was something that was gonna make him happier but it didn't. He felt trapped.

Nobody has all the answers. He's just trying to figure it out like the rest of us.

I just watched his GMA interview and he is mesmerizing. I would agree with anything he said if he was sitting across from me. He’s a compelling person; don’t know if he was “acting,” but seemed so sincere! He said he only wants to be remembered for being a good dad; all the other stuff doesn’t matter.

But you’re not a good dad, Blanche, you’re not a good dad!

[quote]Ben’s just being the white asshole man he is

As opposed to blacks, Asians, Hispanics that DON'T ever do this? What a racist you are.

[quote]Being a woman means that your ENTIRE TEENS, AND ADULTHOOD IS PREDICATED ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU BEAR CHILDREN.

I want to bear your children!

When I get as a young teen, I remember my mother telling me she envied me because my whole life didn’t revolve around being incapacitated with a period every month. I thought this sounded extreme. I have plenty of female friends who barely notice their periods. It should probably be standard procedure for girls to get on birth control at age 13 and just stay on it their whole lives (until they want kids.) Seems like it would solve a lot of problems. Sure, it’s a hassle and possibly unfair burden but beats the alternative.

He is as insufferable as his boyfriend Matt. Hate them both.

[quote]He is as insufferable as his boyfriend Matt. Hate them both.

You must be a fag.

Remember those words tonight, Matt at r263, as Ben gives you the reach around in bed.

I’m so disappointed in this crop of GenX guys. They make us all look bad.

The early GenXers (aka the Brat Pack) were a lot more interesting than Affleck/Damon/Goop et al

[quote]His childhood was a nightmare.

Oh please. Now we blame the parents. Ben's childhood was quite cushy, at least socially and financially. He had wealthy, loving maternal grandparents who lived in the UWS and spoiled him and Casey rotten. His mother went to Radcliffe and had a very good career and job, they never went hungry and were well-educated all throughout their lives.

His father had well-documented issues of course, but he also came from a cushy, WASP-Y if not dysfunctional family who also took physical care of their brood. I'm so tired of the Ben-as-working-class-Boston-Bro image. It's totally false and high time he stopped leaning into it at 50 years of age.

Bro at R266 ^

He’s a good guy at heart. So what, he likes to party a little, see a stripper every now and then. He’s a goddam movie star. Why not enjoy the spoils? Jen Garner was lucky to have him; those children will be gorgeous. And they’ll have a legacy and millions of dollars.

He's just like his dad. it's not his fault. It's in his genes.

Hollywood can give him all the chances they'd like. His heart, arteries, and liver won't be as accommodating. Neither will his kids, who might take his money but who will grow to hate his guts if they don't already.

R234 - Yes, that's the clip. No wonder I couldn't find it searching under Check Please! Check Please was a Chicago show.

He named me "Seraphina". FUCK HIM!

[quote]It should probably be standard procedure for girls to get on birth control at age 13 and just stay on it their whole lives (until they want kids.)

You didn't take any health courses in high school, did you?

[quote]The early GenXers (aka the Brat Pack)

Most of them are Boomers, though. The only two who are GenX are Anthony Michael Hall and Molly Ringwald.

[quote]It should probably be standard procedure for girls to get on birth control at age 13 and just stay on it their whole lives (until they want kids.)

Why should it be the girls' responsibility and not the boys'?

[quote] His mother went to Radcliffe and had a very good career and job,

Going to Radcliffe explains everything about a person!

Many people do slutty drunken things in their 20s. And then they settle down and become sedate and respectable and responsible. I think that’s what both Jennifers did.

Ben is stuck in some juvenile thing that addicts sometimes do. He feels entitled to avoid being a grown-up. Maybe Lopez thinks she can save him, or something.

R269, my father was an alcoholic. I am not, because it’s in my power to decline alcohol. My friend’s parents both had colon cancer. One died, one’s still here somehow. My friend has an annual colonoscopy.

You can’t control EVERYthing, but you can take proactive steps to avoid genetic disasters.

JLo's addicted to publicity just like Affleck is. I doubt if they even have sex. They're just together to call the paps and get their pics up on gossip websites.

Do you not understand how to use birth control, r273?

Does r273 actually think long-term birth control use affects fertility? Or what? She didn’t bother to actually articulate an argument (quelle surprise— a hysterical, illogical frau,)

Long term hormonal birth control has not been shown to affect fertility when off it, but it does a)make some women emotionally insane and b)kill the sex drive of some who take it. Makes sense in a way because it's basically tricking the body into think it's pregnant, so I guess getting laid becomes a biological non-priority.

Quite a few women don't want to take it because it makes them gain weight. It's not the ideal thing to be taking.

R282 & R283 More importantly, it causes blood clotting and increases risk of cancer and diabetes.

Garner's CEO boyfriend looks cute in that shot taken through the restaurant window

R186 he won for producing Argo. He wasn’t even Oscar nominated for directing it. He managed to win the Globe and DGA however for his direction.

[quote] He’s not acting like he’s got life figured out; he’s vulnerable and shows his feelings, while still being masculine. I want to rescue him.

It’s good that you recognize this impulse. Be wary of it. It’s codependent and can be destructive to you.

R250, I agree with you. I'd love to meet him and hang out and discuss what's going on. Oh, yeah. I'd also sleep with him.

He'll be drinking again soon enough. He's the type who never stays sober.

I was just about to post something similar R289. It won't be long before he's drinking again. He seems like a [bold]real[/bold] asshole.

He must be full of hostility and anger toward Garner. The remarks are among other things a passive-aggressive fertilizer bomb on her. He's really saying SHE trapped him, without coming out and saying it. Well, our FEELINGs are our FEELINGS. But regardless of his right to his FEELINGS, he's not a big enough man to refrain from remarks like this about life with his children, because that is what staying married to Garner was. He's a small man and a small person. A-list Hollywood sets a low bar for mature adult behavior, but in a population cohort rife with divorces, many somehow manage to keep from telling the world how "trapped" they felt living with their still-minor children. He's really a standout.

I'm really not sure what JLo sees in him. It's obvious he has some massive issues, a very challenging personality and a nasty immature character.