Jussie Smollett Hate Crime Hoax Trial - Part 2

PART 1

[quote]Whew chile

I love white gay wokes.

Monsieur Juicy Smoolyeah

Ooh la la. He's French

Priceless free publicity for Steamworks.

French and gay!

[quote]Over time, he said the two men did more drugs and participated in sex acts together.

I'll need video of said sex acts to properly make a decision

He really is shameless, isn’t he?

I have a hard time believing the African brothers are gay. If they were, Lee Daniels would have already had them on the payroll.

Miss Jussie is color struck and hates his White daddy. Just a small part of his pathology. I am guessing BPD vs. NPD.

Not bi even, R7?

The courtroom sketcher turned him into Gregory Hines.

CNN: FBI Director Christopher Wray to Speak on Status of Jussie Smollett Investigation at 8:00pm EST

r7:

[quote]Smollett said he met Abimbola Osundairo in 2017 at a club, where he learned Osundairo also worked on the set of “Empire.”

sounds like something a journalist shouldn't do

"shady ass" and "chile"? OP you should back off Black Twitter, it's affecting your brain pan.

r13 that's actually what a journalist should do. He's trying to get a reaction from Jussie so he can report on it.

OP is probably whiter than Powder.

Funny Jussie dragging Don Lemon into this now.

[quote] sounds like something a journalist shouldn't do

CNN hasn't had journalists since Bernie Shaw retired

[quote]Miss Jussie is color struck and hates his White daddy. Just a small part of his pathology.

Jussie reminds me of Vic Mensa who has been open about extremely deep feelings of inadequacy left over from being a biracial child...it manifests in adulthood in the form of drug use, depression. Jussie was also the gay sibling as well, so Im not surprised his issues eventually overflowed

I realize this is ultra-conservative Babylon Bee, but these are going around Twitter and are actually funny:

And another:

Those are pretty funny.

[quote]Funny Jussie dragging Don Lemon into this now.

Don admonished him on air for choosing to interview with GMA/Robin Roberts instead of CNN Tonight. For him to carry that into the courtroom almost 2 years later is sooo petty!

Somebody find out what brand of jacket is seen here and at r20 so my daddy can get me one for Christmas! YASSSSS

Don't apologize for the Babylon Bee. They have been hitting bullseyes

Jussie: "I am the black Cary Grant!"

What’s the deal with this guy? Claimed he “didn’t know” they were at a gay bathhouse in his testimony but according to Smollett they “made out” and “there was some touching” more than once.

[quote]"It was the biggest show on television," Smollett says. Special prosecutor Dan Webb has now objected to the relevancy of all this to the case. Judge Linn says the defense has a little leeway but urges them to move on.

The biggest show on television, lol.

Bump for original thread.

[quote]Smollett says he and Abimbola would drive around in his car smoking blunts, then he'd drop him off and go home. "It's part of my relaxing process. I think that the car is probably the best place to listen to your music to be by yourself to be inspired."

He is a parody of himself.

[quote]Smollett says he was driving, smoking a blunt and texting with a woman about MSNBC appearance – day of January 27th – when the Osundairo brothers were in his car. Brothers say that's when hoax was being planned.

So he's repeatedly admitted to driving while smoking weed and now driving while texting?

[quote]Smollett says he and Abimbola would drive around in his car smoking blunts, then he'd drop him off and go home. "It's part of my relaxing process. I think that the car is probably the best place to listen to your music to be by yourself to be inspired."

R32 Seems like Jesus did . He didn't crash the car of this weed smoking and texting driver

I'm beginning to think this Smollette person isn't being truthful.

Someone tell Jabba the Hutt he does NOT look good as a redhead

I can’t see how a jury goes for any of the defense’s spectacle. What is their narrative? It makes no sense.

And Jussie is just not a great actor. I’m thinking of his utterly transparent and fake Robin Roberts interview. It was hysterical.

There is already a movie about this

It’s scary he was driving around Chicago under the influence…. Especially in my neighborhood!

Black Cary Grant?

Didn't people think he was potentially being written out around the time this happened? He fabricated the letter and the attack for sympathy/of course we aren't writing you out!

I hate his first and last name. So punchable.

If there is evidence of him and his trial run, then there is no place for him to hide. Him doubling down makes him look just as mad as other sociopaths like Donald Trump or Elon Musk.

Very disappointed that Jussie pulled such a stunt.

Dave Chapelle gets it right about Miss Thing, and just skewers him. I wonder if she’ll do any time?

[quote]"It was the biggest show on television," Smollett says.

This is outright perjury.

Never hire a Millennial as your attorney:

"[Smollette's attorney] Walker appeared close to tears as she argued with the judge and soon left the courtroom with her mother, who was in the gallery, as the rest of Smollett’s team continued to ask for a mistrial."

Typical narcissist's con, "It's not MY fault! It's YOUR fault! I'm RIGHT! You're WRONG! It's not ME! It's YOU! I DIDN'T do that! You don't know what you're talking about!"

R39 and Gay Tupac .

R34 = Kamala Harris

[quote] It’s scary he was driving around Chicago under the influence

That's the least scary thing happening in Chicago

[quote]I hate his first and last name. So punchable.

Use that! Use that energy!

This lying cunt weasel wasting EVER MORE of our tax dollars. And the entire wishy-washy non-gay down low bro culture of the two hunky trainer/dealer/whores. It was a club I have no idea if its for the gays we was just kissing and playing with our dicks and shit so that ain't gay just hanging. I can't even.

I can't remember now, but what is the trial for if the initial charges were dropped, again?

I know Jussie was planning on suing the police department but I can't remember if he actually did.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Don Lemon, Jussie Skillet. . . I wonder what other hot black gay men are in this club.

R53 despite the spin that is actually standard fats for a reporter to try to get a scoop out of a source by telling him what others have said about him, to get a reaction.

I know the right wing doesn't like Don Lemon but it's silly to make this into a "CNN reporter under fire for unethical behavior" thing when Don was reporting on it at the time.

Also why is that retarded Fox News reporter not threading his livetweeting from the trial?? So aggravating.

Oh, all they have him on trial over is disorderly conduct?

[quote]Smollett, 39, has pleaded not guilty to six counts of disorderly conduct, a charge for which a conviction is punishable by up to three years in prison. His defense attorneys have said he was a real victim and have suggested during the trial that homophobia may have been a motive in the attack.

I hope they make him serve it consecutively! Three years in the hoosegow sounds about right for this bullshit, but it seems like lax sentencing is the rage nowadays.

I hope his lawyers are burning through his remaining cash.

Article on CNN ^

(Also, check out this fat photo. Is this him lately?)

FAT Jussie. Waste of good dick. Buh bye.

Damn if Im gonna use cocaine I better be skinny. How you gonna gain 30 pounds while using coke. Jussie you a mess gurl.

Well he can't get coke any more with his trainers no longer returning his calls!

I'd expect Jussie has been on better behavior the past few years due to knowing the cops might still be keeping an eye on him.

Jussie can't afford coke anymore. He's mainlining Crispy Cremes and Popeyes.

Did he have the option to plead out. If so, he should have. But he seems like the type who believes he'd beat the charges.

"The biggest show on television, lol."

Empire was never the ratings leader, so never the biggest show in that regard. But, it did have really strong ratings its first few seasons - after mixed initial reviews - and it got a ton of coverage because of the success of an all black drama and because it's success really was sort of unexpected. I found it ridiculous fun for 2.5 seasons but then tired of it.

So glad I'm white.

ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 12/03 **6**

This A-/B+ list actress has been footing the bill for her sibling's big trial. The sibling has also been pocketing a bunch of money for himself and his boyfriend. Jurnee Smollett/Jussie Smollett/Abimbola Osundairo

Jurnee Smollett is by no means A-/B+ level. Sorry queen .

[quote] that is actually standard fats for a reporter

Is Don Lemon going the bear route now that he's about to get fired?

Regarding the "black Cary Grant" proclamation, in my best Cary Grant imitation: "Jussie, Jussie, Jussie!"

Does it go to the jury today?

This guy is a real brainiac, huh?

What’s he getting fired for r68? Don’t be stingy with the link.

R66 that guy is a known fraud, wouldn't put much faith in those.

R72 nothing. It's right wingers trying to make hay of something normal that only sounds bad if you don't know anything, to damage Don Lemon for I dunno, being black or something.

This, R19. This is the neuroses plaguing the country.

Juicy messed up with the sex story. Anyone can see if they were messing around Juicy was going to be sure to get that big Nigerian stud to plow his ass.

All it means is that he uses drugs and coercion to get reluctant people to masturbate with him. Probably leading him on with promises of money. I can imagine the guy being high on something and then Jussie slimily forcing himself on the guy after luring him to a sex club.

"Jurnee Smollett is by no means A-/B+ level. Sorry queen ."

Come on, in the blind item world she is. It's a blind item; never totally accurate. DL must overthink everything, as if you've never seen a blind item that was slightly off before.

It's not an accurate blind item because it's from CDAN, which just makes shit up to get clicks. Then rubes breathlessly copy and paste it info threads like it's anything but the imaginings of a guy trying to get clout because it says something they think supports some idea they have in their heads.

We've seen blind items. This is just made-up fiction.

Is the trial going on right now?

second day of Jussie's testimony is happening right now. "The entire tone of this cross is 180 degrees from yesterday. Smollett is on the defensive, annoyed."

Hahahah. He knows he looked bad and now he's lashing out. I hope he digs himself in deeper.

R72, because he sexually assaulted that poor guy in a bar. He evidently has made three settlement offers.

Ignore R74 who obviously gets his knowledge of the world exclusively from CNN which means he is a moron.

I don't know what's worse, Jussie thinking he can pull this off, or the right wing idiots on social media trying to turn this into some referendum against Democrats and VP Kamala Harris.

At the time the whole mood was "believe the victim!" so it's not super surprising that some politicians latched onto it as a way to promote some projects. In Harris's case she was trying to get anti-lynching legislation passed in Congress which has been stuck for decades, which is a noble pursuit.

Yet on social media you see claims like "SHE KNEW HE WAS LYING AND DID IT TO ADVANCE HER CAREER" and other ridiculous reaches. The same people are trying to turn the information about Don Lemon into something scandalous, like reporters don't use tactics like that to try to get reactions from people they are reporting on.

Should Harris have waited a bit before joining the bandwagon of people using this event as a way to promote black rights? Maybe, it was a calculated risk. But does it mean something nefarious or that she KNEW he was lying or other bullshit? No, no it does not. What that means is they are projecting your emotional dislike of Harris onto her and thinking everything she does is some con or grift, because they have turned her into a caricature like Hillary Clinton, where she can do nothing without getting criticism.

They want to, so desperately, make this into something it isn't, and it would be sad if it weren't so damaging to society.

R83 That has norhing to do with the Smollett story, though, which was my point. You can ignore me all you like but that doesn't make the obvious attempts to turn Don Lemon into a bad guy based on nothing, less obvious.

You can always tell a right winger because they still think CNN is some bastion of liberalness, rather than being a center right news network like almost all of them are. Even MSNBC is run by Republicans. It's brain-dead, but hey that's today's modern Republican party. Unfortunately they infest DataLounge.

R83 nice news source there. "Bizpacreview". Plenty of people have heard of it!

I have an idea. Let's Google any topic about anything and pretend every link is The Truth. How do you determine which is the actual Truth? Why, whichever one reinforces your obvious preconceived biases!

Don't forget to shop at the "We the People" store on your way off the site! Half off on American flag tshirts!

Juicy is so dumb!

[quote] Should Harris have waited a bit before joining the bandwagon of people using this event as a way to promote black rights?

That story, from the beginning, had more holes than a truck load of swiss cheese.

To have public officials, who one might HOPE have some smarts or insights, believe such a pile of horse shit is bad enough. But to comment supporting the perpetrator of this baloney is depressing.

Stupid, badly (if at all) educated folks from La La Land believing JS's tale - well, that is to be expected.

But from one who was being considered for (and later) achieved, the office of Vice President, it speaks volumes about her lack of intelligence and savvy.

Depressing.

[quote] It's almost impossible to not somehow develop an emotional attachment to someone you're fucking.

Guys on Grindr, Scruff, etc. beg to differ. Actual emotional attachment is the rare occurrence. Sure, it's absolutely divine if you get that, but some settle for less, much less, to get their rocks off.

are they gonna suspend Don Lemon?

[quote] Even MSNBC is run by Republicans.

Huh?

Wasn't Don just trying to push Jussie's buttons to make the interview with him instead of Robin Roberts?

Sorry, r89 was obviously posted in the wrong thread.

Seems oddly apt r93.

R94 .

Not obvious at all, R93. That is actually part of the defense Jussie's lawyers are making

R91 the longtime head of MSNBC, Phil Griffin, is a Republican. Many of the execs are Republican. They also have Republican hosts such as Morning Joe. The people that make the right wing think MSNBC is some leftist organization are the prime time shows, Maddow and Reid and Lawrence O'Donnell and similar. But it isn't comparable to Fox News even then.

R92 that's what journalists do, but the right wingers are trying to make it seem like he did something untoward or somehow leaked information, which isn't the case at all.

Nigerian Bros denying Jussie's new gay claim.

There’s another current thread titled “Gay men you respect.” Well, after reading about Jussie Smollet, he may be the worst gay man in all of gay history. He’s a disgusting human being. And he refuses to let go of the lie! It’s truly unbelievable. I thought this would be his opportunity to come clean and apologize and take his punishment. But he’s going the black victim route. So disappointed.

That Newsweek article makes no sense, kind of a stretch to say he was mocking Jussie, but I can see why Jussie wanted to hit that:

I haven't read through all of these posts yet, but in case no on has posted "What a mess!" on this thread yet:

What a mess!

The “black victim” who exploits two actual Africans then lies and tries them for his crimes the first chance he gets

Yeah it's doubly ironic that he is trying to make the brothers into the problem party here when he was cynically using Black Lives Matter as a PR instrument and definitely did not help make black people look good.

Hopefully the jury can see through his nonsense.

The defense has rested. Tomorrow morning will be closing arguments then it's in the jury's hands

Is Justine going to try and get fucked tonight? He could easily be going to prison tomorrow.

R101 Abel would be a hot fuck—one time. But when he speaks he sounds really dumb and boring. But the pounding would probably be hot.

He’s a big MJ fan, right? You can def tell.

From his Insta, I'm convinced that Abimbola Osundairo is in a thruple with his brother and a third guy....

You know it’s bad for Jussie when even black people have written him off and are joking about him. They usually defend each other till the end, even murderers and drug dealers.

R109 that would be quite the porn cast if so. All three guys are very hot. I think just as likely they are just narcissistic personal trainer bros. I’d gladly offer my ass up to test their heterosexuality.

R109 - The one on the far right is hawt! The Nigerians on the left and middle are creepy looking to me.

[quote] You know it’s bad for Jussie when even black people have written him off and are joking about him. They usually defend each other till the end, even murderers and drug dealers.

He's gay, that's why blacks aren't defending him.

[quote]He's mainlining Crispy Cremes and Popeyes.

Where the Lord closes a door, somewhere He opens a window.

R106 I mean, if he goes to jail, he will have plenty of cage meat to choose from.

R113 they were defending him initially, this was too egregious even for them.

I just assumed he would have committed suicide. I can’t believe we’re utilizing court room resources on this loser.

What a charade.

They’re not republicans, they’re authoritarian remnants of the bush era who fit very snugly with the likes of joy Reid. I’d argue this dysfunctional group are worse than most democrats the way they agitate for war.

It was also the Lincoln project who gets of plenty of msnbc airtime who got caught trying to instigate a race war in Virginia. These people are awful.

Who are you talking about, R119?

Speaking of Joy Reid, did she ever weigh in on this little saga? I can’t imagine her staying away from it when it first happened.

The hard left R121.

[quote]Crispy Cremes

Oh, dear.

His first name along is grounds for dismissal. Jussie? Bitch, please.

Plenty of prison thugs waiting for Jussie’s “bussy.” I know they can’t punish him too much for this (since he’s black) but I’m hoping he gets at least 6 months in jail. If I was the judge, I’d give him a year just for that whole noose gag. Despicable human being.

I really hope he at least gets two years. I doubt it will teach him a lesson - he seems far too arrogant - but it's always possible. At the minimum it is at least a deterrent to others.

After Jussie Smollett spilled all the tea he could on Monday, Special Prosecutor Dan Webb put the focus back on the attack on the Empire star that the actor allegedly staged in a brutal cross examination on Tuesday.

Webb, a lawyer’s lawyer who nailed corrupt judges and cops when he served as the U.S. attorney for the district including Chicago and who prosecuted Ronald Reagan’s national security adviser and deposed the president as special counsel in the Iran-Contra affair, shifted the focus back to the incident at hand. This after Smollett had previously shared intimate details about his relationship with one of the Osundairo brothers, who have testified that the actor paid them $3,500 in 2019 to stage a fake hate crime against him.

Tuesday’s cross examination felt like a masterclass in how to zero in on details and seal the deal. After a day of salacious speculation, innuendo, and tabloid fodder, Webb wanted to remind the jury what they were here to decide upon.

Webb focused on the scene of the incident and the actions leading up to it. Evidence provided during the trial showed that Smollett and the Osundairo brothers drove multiple times in the preceding days around the exact location where the actor would later claim he was physically attacked, had bleach poured on him, and a noose put around his neck in the frigid wee hours of Jan. 29, 2019.

Smollett had previously testified that he solely worked with Abimbola, the Osundario brother he also testified that he had a sexual, drug-induced relationship with—and that he didn’t get along with older brother Olabinjo, who Smollett claimed “had nothing to do with my life.” (Abimbola, who appeared as an extra on “Empire,” has denied that he and Smollett had a sexual relationship.)

So why was Olabinjo in the car with the two of them around the area in question for a workout that didn’t happen?

“You got so stoned that you decided when you got to Streeterville you were too stoned to work out?” Webb asked.

"No," Smollett replied back. “I've worked out many times high on weed. It certainly wasn’t that.”

The actor claims that he found it “weird” that Olabinjo had accompanied him and Abimbola and that, at the time, he said the workout didn’t happen because he had an interview to prepare for. But as Webb kept pressing him on specifics, Smollett grew more and more visibly frustrated.

One notable example was when the prosecution pressed Smollett to acknowledge that he drove around the area not one but three times with the Osundairo brothers.

“Do you have any reason to disagree with police testimony that you passed by the intersection three times?” Webb asked.

“I don’t know,” Smollett replies. “I circled around the block.”

“How long were you there?”

“Well you have the surveillance, you have to tell me,” Smollett snapped back. “It was three years ago.”

It was clear that Webb had punctured a nerve with Smollett. After the actor tried to cast doubt on Abimbola’s testimony by claiming the two had been in a sexual relationship, Webb put the focus back on Smollett, pressing him in an intense series of back-and-forth exchanges about the specific details of the night in question. These included whether Smollett thought a Walgreens was open for 24 hours, why he was looking for eggs in the middle of the night, whether or not he’d asked Abimbola about a workout that night, and on and on until the actor seemed to hit a breaking point.

"I’m just concerned about answering yes or no,” Smollett told Judge James Linn after Webb began to strike one of his responses as “non-responsive.”

"Please, please," Linn told him. “It’s the same for all witnesses, it’s not personal to you. The lawyer asks questions, you answer them."

In a final round of back-and-forth, Webb pressed Smollett on the attack itself, and why Smollett changed his initial description of his attackers to the police from white to being “pale skinned.”

By the end of his cross-examination, Webb had left many lingering questions about Smollett’s account of what happened for jurors to consider. Among them: If Smollett had delayed a workout with Abimbola that night, as he testified, why were there no follow up messages or calls about that?

As Webb wrapped up his questioning, he asked Smollett if “getting a few bruises” had really impacted his acting career.

"Mr. Webb, I have a scar under my eye that looks like a bag for the rest of my life," Smollett replied, while also mentioning a "black circle" on his face. "It’s absolutely a problem."

Webb then showed Smollett a photo of him during his controversial Feb. 2019 Good Morning America interview with Robin Roberts a few weeks after the attack. In the photo, Smollett did not appear to have any of the markings he’d just described on the stand.

Smollett clapped back, asking Webb if he knows what Hollywood interviews are like and insisting that the makeup provided to him on set "makes me look much better."

Damn, Jussie—how did you let him get you like that?

Just in case it has been forgotten......Jussie's names is an anagram for I Jesus......

No, it's not, not even the same number of letters. Do you know what an anagram is?

Jussie Smollett and Kevin Sessums should end up together . The names alone. Kevin would try to get Jussie sober.

Lol Jussie is not going to jail you fools. For 2 years?

Joy Ried? Is the same is republicans?

Where is the link to Don Lemon getting fired?

R120, TLP was trying to start a race war? Really? Is that what they were doing? Really now?

Jussie is an an anagram for Jesus?

Crackpot much?

This thread is going down the tubs with fake gossip and unsubstantiated claims. This has been happening a lot on DL let’s let where they are miking up the gossip and living in a fantasy’s world. Gossip like this is NO FUN. It’s all fake.

It’s like fools good. What is the fun in that?

This thread needs to regulate the lies and false claims or else I’m moving in to another thread that is more fact based.

[quote] Jussie Smollett and Kevin Sessums should end up together

The Smollett Sessums residence, the lady of the house speaking.

[quote] Who are you talking about, [R119]?

Crackhead nonsense.

DL IQ fell through the trap door sometime during covid.

I don’t like being in the threads that turn into fake fantasy threads where the subject is going to be facing these made up, imagined circumstances and there will be some big, dramatic lead up to some fateful event and all of it is made up and fake. It makes me dizzy.

We need links, people. Back up your claims.

Only posting this because of the Trump cult followers who were so upset that Pres Biden commented on the Rittenhouse case.

There is a lot of competition to this thread so OP needs to clean it up if it is to survive.

R129 That's part about the makeup is hilarious. Just how fucking dumb is Jussie that he walked right into that trap?

I didn't read the whole thread...

Why in the hell did he choose for this to go to trial? He should've admitted his guilt and moved on quietly. This trial is just shredding any goodwill he might have had left.

Because he has an ego the size of Kansas and an almost complete lack of shame, R143.

[quote]Should Harris have waited a bit before joining the bandwagon of people using this event as a way to promote black rights? Maybe, it was a calculated risk. But does it mean something nefarious or that she KNEW he was lying or other bullshit? No, no it does not.

Come on. She was an experienced prosecutor and DA. If she couldn't tell that Jussie was a lying sack of shit, then she's really incompetent.

R140 People are mad that Biden called Rittenhouse a racist without any evidence and then, when he was found innocent, released a statement that implied it was the wrong decision. That isn’t anything like Trump calling out an actor for a staged racist attack.

[quote] [R140] People are mad that Biden called Rittenhouse a racist without any evidence and then, when he was found innocent, released a statement that implied it was the wrong decision. That isn’t anything like Trump calling out an actor for a staged racist attack.

White supremacist Republican morons, like you were angry. Because while you enjoy believing and promoting white supremacist bullshit. You hate being called out.

After the verdict. Biden stated that the Justice System works and must be respected.

Now please continue sucking the dick of the moronic teen murderer and your orange lord and savior.

I will add that you’re correct murdering 2 people is nothing like filing a false police report.

Smollett's testimony contradicted that of Bola Osundairo last week, who denied they had a sexual relationship and said he "didn't know" there was even any sexual tension. The defense has struggled to make headway on this point. Last week, during cross-examination of Ola Osundairo, a defense attorney asked him about his use of words they say paint him as homophobic. However, the judge told them to move on to another line of questioning. Defense attorney Tamara Walker then asked for a mistrial, sobbed in court and said the judge had "lunged" at her during a sidebar conversation. The judge denied the accusation and denied the motion for a mistrial, saying he was stunned by the request.

CNN's Omar Jimenez and Bill Kirkos reported from Chicago. Steve Almasy reported and wrote from Atlanta and Eric Levenson reported and wrote from New York.

R148 So he found an attorney who is just as crazy and dramatic as him?

Oh, as him what, dear?

R150 Sorry, I didn't realize this is a top debating society.

#Justice4Jussie.

They are bold-faced liars, homophones and racists out to frame him. I prey the truth will prevail.

[quote] Only posting this because of the Trump cult followers who were so upset that Pres Biden commented on the Rittenhouse case.

When initially asked about it, Trump offered his sympathies to Smullet but upon learning the facts of what transpired, changed his assessment. That's totally different then what Biden did with Rittenhouse where he continued to promote lies even after video evidence.

[quote] So he found an attorney who is just as crazy and dramatic as him?

If R66 is correct, Jussie is using a very cheap lawyer and is pocketing the savings.

R152 = Jurnee

De facto is a busy little troll. Lots of misinformation here. All of it overt RWNJ material

It's only fair. If black people make up stories about being attacked, white people get to kill someone.

That's just science.

You know what else is a crime? This trial not being televised. This would be like the Whitney Houston & Diane Sawyer interview being print only. So many one-liners that will live on forever in gay culture. But for this we get nada!

And like I've said before, in the unlikely event he does go to jail, it probably wont even be a week. The experts have said he will likely get a community service/fine type deal.

After all this drama, can somebody please remind me why he faked the attack to begin with. Wasn't Empire still a big hit and wasn't Jussie's career going well. What was the purpose of staging the attack. What was the inciting incident that would make him gamble such big career potential. And now, why is he being belligerent with the court. This is massive self sabotaging. What am I missing here?

Why would he go to jail? Jussie is the victim here.

I will never get the mental image of Abimbola shooting a huge load all over the ceiling at Steamworks out of my head.

What fool of an attorney would put their client on stand knowing he would be cross examined by Dan freaking Webb? He’s not the assistant DA of Kenosha county.

1000 murders in Chicago this year and this is what they are wasting taxpayers money on.

R159 I think it was because he figured the sympathy for a gay black man being attacked by MAGA hat wearing thugs, would catapult his career to higher levels than Empire.

Kyle Rittenhouse was incorrectly called a racist?

Okay, Breitbart troll.

R159, I heard—ok, I read somewhere on the internet—that Lee Daniels told him that he was gaining too much weight, indirectly threatening his gig with Empire. That triggered a whole hyper-dramatic insecurity spiral that lead to this colossal waste of tax payer money.

R162 You think someone's with an ego like Jussie would accept not taking the stand? A lawyer can only advise, if their client demands something, they go along with it or quit.

r159 Jussie had been frustrated for YEARS that his solo music career outside of Empire was not getting traction, despite the show being successful...Im sure the network put limitations on his solo efforts. This was a culmination of his frustration with the network, drug use, and personal life issues.

Jussie has been in the business forever. I'm sure he had visions of himself being a music star and the resentment built up as he approached his late 30s with his chances dwindling. I was surprised to learn that Frank Gatson was Jussie's creative director, and Frank was with him that night. Frank Gatson is one of the best in the industry, Jussie was really pouring himself and his money into it. He still had major potential, great looks, singing ability, and access to the right people to have a fabulous career, but alas.

Jussie's best friend was Raven-Symoné...both gay working in TV and movies since they were kids, but Jussie had a fraction of her success. She was practically retired by 30; meanwhile he has some old queen telling him he's fat and he's paying dudes to fuck him. That likely did a number on him as well.

“He's gay, that's why blacks aren't defending him.”

—Anonymous t113

He’s guilty , that is why NO ONE is defending him. His defence is frankly absurd and the fact he is talking about being a victim ,but is willingly throwing anyone and everyone to the dogs shows how absolutely narcissistic he is.

[quote] I hate his first and last name.

Justa Smalldick

I hope there is a special place in hell for those who fake such attacks because ultimately they are hurting those who really are victims of such attacks. The same goes for false rape and molestation claims.

And this stupid small balls thought itwould make him super famous and loved. Just like another couple idiots we know.

hope he fries with a side of canceled.

R139 the thread is struggling because you have the right wingers who hate BLM and anyone associated with it (including all black people who claim to be for it) and they're trying to use this Jussie affair to denigrate them all. They're the ones who either post the little snide comments about Kamala Harris or Don Lemon, or conversely they post a long diatribe, which is reminiscent of the fanatics who camp in the Meghan Markle threads and write volumes on how awful they think she is.

Then you have the gleeful (and immature) cusp Millennial (?) black guy who keeps feverishly posting that the brothers are both gay and were obviously fucking Jussie and spraying cum all over the bathhouse, for whatever reason, I have no idea why, maybe they think it's hot, or maybe they just hope everyone hot is gay.

The intersection between the two is where you also have CDAN links which are always conveniently posted around the same time as anything controversial or newsworthy that reinforce some prejudice or another. Both the Meghan-freaks and the "I want this thing to be true" people use them because they both despise Jussie not so much for what he did but for who he is and that he was a successful black man. Replace Jussie with any number of black people and they will have the same reaction.

You also have the "he will never go to jail because rich folk rule the world" posters whose cynical and nihilistic viewpoint stops the direction of any conversation.

And lastly, you have people who didn't really give a shit about Jussie until he started this nonsense, and just want him to get SOME punishment, and find the case interesting and dramatic and entertaining but also don't want fake blind items, random right wing inspired attacks at anyone who initially supported Jussie, weird speculations and other non-facts to pollute the discussion. And especially don't want posters who seem to be masturbating furiously on the other side of the screen while they are posting, like a lot of the gleeful posters above.

R163 the thing about the law is that if you don't enforce it, fewer and fewer people will follow it. So yes that means even smaller stuff like traffic tickets, trying to achieve fame by staging a fake hate crime, and bar fights go through the legal system if the people breaking those laws are caught. That's law and order for you.

“or conversely they post a long diatribe, which is reminiscent of the fanatics who camp”

As opposed to you, of course

R159 this wasn't the first attempt he made to get attention by faking a hate crime, remember. There was the mysterious letter sent to the studio before. When it didn't have the impact he wanted, and since he never got on trouble for it, he tried again, with something bolder and more dramatic. And if that hadn't worked he likely would have tried something even more escalated.

He seems to surround himself with yes men and friend-of-a-friend recommended vendors, so I'm not surprised he thought he could pull this off.

R177 Of course it's different. I was explaining the thread dynamics. But nice try. Guessing something I said hit close to home for you.

[quote]There was the mysterious letter sent to the studio before.

If it was from a small foreign faction, then Not Guilty!

I thought he was maybe 28 years old. He's 39 years old. He's NOT a kid anymore.

Joey Jackson was just on CNN with Don Lemon discussing Jussie and brought up the "downlow" activities Jussie says the brothers participated in, Don was looking like damn we are really going there tonight? lol

Ain't nothing downlow about Don Lemon

[quote] I prey the truth will prevail.

Good luck with that, R152.

Jussie's going to get perjury charges thrown at him after this trial as well. His collapse is complete.

Babylon Bee, ultra conservative? Yeah, sure..

R169, To also add salt to the wound, it must kill him that his sister Jurnee is having an amazing career on television and film.

Smollett interrupted the special prosecutor as he was reading aloud one of Smollett’s messages that had the N word in it.

“Can you spell or say the N word out of respect for every African American in this room? You’ve been saying it a lot.”

R169 No she’s not. Gets cast in dreck because she’s pretty. Tyler Perry’s infidelity (or whatever) co-starring KIM K?! The last good reviews for her acting came in 1997 when she’s a child for Eve’s Bayou. Still more than Jussie can say.

He has a famous sister as well? Do they have the same parents - I wouldn't guess she's black.

Good going Jussie! You’ve set back black perceptions and gay stereotypes back by 50 years. Asshole.

R190 No, different parents. Two different parents. You’re right, the sister pictured is completely white.

R175 is nutty and nonsensical. What the fuck you think your explaining to people here bruh?

R193 - “What the fuck you think your explaining to people here bruh?”

Are you drunk or high? This is one of the worst responses I’ve read in a while. First of all, *YOU’RE* is the proper usage. And secondly, R175 was very intelligent and succinct in his explanation, which apparently you need. And thirdly, your use of the word “bruh” illuminates your stupidity.

Smollett on the stand shows stupidity reigns. He is lacking brain cells, he needs to stop believing any p r is good p r. In his case, he's sunk his own ship.

[quote]I thought he was maybe 28 years old. He's 39 years old. He's NOT a kid anymore.

28 isn’t a kid.

R179 take your pompass hot air somewhere else

R186 uh, it is. I'm guessing you haven't read it or seen its Twitter or the guys who write its Twitter. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Oh dear, r197.

Jussie's only hope is that the judge uses "ethnomathematics" to tally the jurors' votes.

R188 hah, he thought he had done something there. "I know! I'll subtly call him racist for reading my words!"

What was the reason the Judge banned cameras for this trial?

I wonder if the “famous” sister will visit him in prison?

[quote]Well, after reading about Jussie Smollet, he may be the worst gay man in all of gay history.

Hear! Hear!

[quote]Well, after reading about Jussie Smollet, he may be the worst gay man in all of gay history.

Disgusting, isn’t it?

[quote]Well, after reading about Jussie Smollet, he may be the worst gay man in all of gay history.

Twitter intelligence.

Closing arguments are happening right now

It's unbelievable that even on a gay site there is all this homophobic and racists attacks on our Jussie. We should be supporting, not attaching him!

R208 = Kamala.

Supporting?

Attaching?

[quote]We should be supporting, not attaching him!

But I brought my stapler and everything.

We should be attaching him.

R213 really? You need extensive therapy. F&F.

according to a reporter at the Washington Post, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar were the only Democratic candidates who did not make a statement condemning the "attack" when it first happened. I'm guessing the Midwesterners smelled bullshit and you knew no on was up for lynching at 2 AM in a polar vortex.

R215 source?

You mean candidates who were running for President at the time, I presume.

R216 Yes. And also Kamala Harris even though she had not formally announced.

A good thread for the start of closing arguments. Judge won't be putting time limits on either side. Click image for more.

R100 nah Perez Hilton and Alan Sarapa are still the frontrunners. At least Jussie is good looking. THough he might win as stupidest.2-

A month before Jussie staged the attack, Lee Daniels posted on instagram that his gay cousin had been the victim of a hate crime, because he was gay.

The Empire cast and crew all believe that Jussie was inspired by Lee's cousin's attack to stage his own attack.

If you watch his embarrassing GMA interview, you'll notice it was very important for him to mention that he'd "Fought the fuck back." I think Jussie's takeaway from the Lee Daniels cousin story was "why didn't he fight back??" So Jussie staged the attack partly to rectify that, and show that HE was a different kind of gay.

The guy is absolutely insane. That smug look he always seems to have on his face really bugs.

Now his useless defense team starts their arguments...or whining, as might be more accurate.

[quote]He's NOT a kid anymore.

I don't think he'll ever be a kid again kiddo!

I think this will be a quick jury decision.

defense closing arguments are getting silly. ""They cannot even prove to you beyond a reasonable doubt that there’s a polar vortex," Uche says. There were multiple people in the Subway that night, he says, implying that it couldn't have been so cold that they all kept away. “Maybe they were in on the hoax too," he jokes."

^^Wow. Really?

I suspect a lot of these jurors are laughing inside. Why are Jussie’s lawyers so weak? I thought Jurnee was paying.

The closing arguments from the defense are trying to paint the brothers as publicity hounds who thought it all up themselves and Jussie as an innocent victim, but he doesn't seem to be answering any of the issues brought up by the prosecution's closing arguments.

But the brothers aren't on trial. They aren't the ones with the charges. None of it makes sense. He's trying to sow reasonable doubt but I don't think he is doing a good job.

And all of these people that the defense claims saw white people around the area beforehand - none of them testified under oath and none of them were interviewed by police, with the exception of the one security guard.

R227 just because there was white people in the vicinity doesn’t make them a lynching party.

Also the defence claim the prosecution didn’t prove there was a polar vortex is ridiculous. The jurors all know there was one because they experienced it themselves. It didn’t need to be proven any more than the fact it is was at night, it just was.

I would put up a kid that watches Perry Mason and Matlock reruns with their grandparents against these lawyers and the kid would probably win.

Is that Fox News reporter @MattFinnFNC who’s tweeting about this (gleefully for a Fox audience) gay? He sure looks and sounds like he is.

Jurnee is cheap.

Was the salad called to the stand?

Interesting how the media (except for Fox) has completely ignored the trial. Not a word about it today watching CNN, MSNBC.

r228 the defense seems to be depending on the internet school of bad faith arguing. "We can't prove fish exist, so we can't prove there are two biological human sexes" nonsense.

R232, it's actually not important.

r232 they haven't ignored it, despite right wing whining about how the media is ignoring it. There's been stories about it daily on CNN and other news outlets, livestreaming blogs, etc.

It's just not televised, so it's not a spectacle and there's not much to show on television. That's the same reason the Maxwell trial isn't getting as much coverage, and the same reason the other major trials happening aren't getting as much coverage.

Rittenhouse was shown live because the judge chose to let the cameras in. They're forbidden in federal courts and it's up to the individual judges (assuming they aren't limited by state laws) whether they allow cameras in or not.

[quote] Not a word about it today watching CNN, MSNBC.

I wonder why.

Is the only source for "Jurnee paid for Smollett's defense" that CDAN article or is it based on actual fact, like some of the posters here seem to be pretending?

Because Jussie was making $100k per episode in Season 5 of Empire, and that was 18 episodes. He's worth millions and I don't know why his sister would volunteer to pay for it when he has the money himself.

It seems more like some weird troll attempt to make him seem less masculine and successful "oh look he's dependent on his more successful sister, a woman! haha!"

Didn't he admit his guilt with Kimm Foxx and do community service? Why wasn't that brought up?

Here's one of the stories from MSNBC about the trial from yesterday. I'm thinking you're not looking very hard, or expecting it to be shown all day long like the Rittenhouse trial was - which was because press was allowed in.

Majorly disappointed with this queen.

Coverage from CNN (on TV, they've had livestreaming blogs the entire time).

Here's what Newsmax is covering, the right wing Russia propaganda network:

[quote]Why are Jussie’s lawyers so weak? I thought Jurnee was paying.

Jurnee be broke.

Reality doesn't break through to you guys, does it.

[quote] Because Jussie was making $100k per episode in Season 5 of Empire, and that was 18 episodes. He's worth millions

Was he in every episode? Even if he was, that's $1.8M, with after-tax take home pay about half that. And with his lifestyle expenses, I would guess he's worth somewhere under one million at most. Does he own a home?

who gave r232 a ww when that information is just completely made up and a bald faded lie. Who is wwing liars?

This thread is so full of crap. I’m out!

His team of crying lawyer$ can't be cheap.

[quote] Because Jussie was making $100k per episode in Season 5 of Empire, and that was 18 episodes. He's worth millions.

Well, after taxes, that 1.8 million becomes around 900,000. Minus agent’s fees, a bit above 700,000. A good year’s salary to be sure, but he’ll never make that again.

Word salad was brought to the stand, R231

[quote] Didn't he admit his guilt with Kimm Foxx and do community service? Why wasn't that brought up?

He didn't, R238. That was one of the things that outraged people about the deal Foxx made with him. He just had to do a few hours of community service and didn't even have to admit guilt. That's partly what spurred this special prosecution trial he's going through now.

[quote]they haven't ignored it,

No, you are wrong.

They have ignored it.

Your assertion that "It's just not televised, so it's not a spectacle and there's not much to show on television. " is absurd.

It WAS a news story when the event happened. A BIG news story.

That CNN and MSNBC provide no follow up is shameful.

Oh, Jesus. Is that you, Laura Ingraham at R251? Why don’t you go press your white hoods for your “meetings” this weekend.

Do you think Journee (and the rest of the family) actually believe him?

Thanks R250.

Two years ago

Some things never change

Kamala Harris freezes when asked about Jussie Smollett case

Listen the idiot at R252. His post explains everything.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The whole family should be thrown in jail, solely for inflicting those idiotic god-awful names on an innocent public!

Isn't Jussie from mixing Jesus and something else?

"I, Jesus"

#Justice4Jussie

This will end in a mistrial. The jury has one black person, and the chances of that person voting to convict are zero percent.

R262, that’s so patently ridiculous.

If he is likely just to get probation, then what is the point?

R262 Nah, Black people have not been very sympathetic to him.

[quote] [R213] really? You need extensive therapy. F&F.

Poor prissy queen with no sense of humor.

[quote] If he is likely just to get probation, then what is the point?

The point is the judge could order Jussie to pay for the whole damn thing if he is found guilty. He might only get Community Service, but he may well become financially bankrupt!

It's #Justice4Juicy, R261.

His punishment should be Madea giving him an ass whipping live on tv.

2+2 = 4

1+3 = 4

QED: 3+2 = 4

Don Lemon is one of the biggest famewhores in the news media today. Prior to Dump getting elected, he was about as conservative as you could get on many issues (including race issues), and then did one of the biggest 180's in a matter of months. But every once in a while, he shows his true colors, like when he threw Brooke Baldwin's ass under the bus over her claims of women being marginalized at CNN. (Despite them being very close friends at one point) He even had the brass balls to tell Baldwin on air that she should have taken the boss out to lunch if she wanted to get ahead.

People who still take sides when it comes to the media are gullible fools. The majority of them do not care about the average person. They care about themselves and lining their own pockets. It's performative bull crap.

Would you rather be Jussie or Alec right now?

Neither !

R271 is spot on about Lemon.

Alec, but only if I can make the lunatic wife and kids magically disappear R272.

Don Lemon is just one of the worst people on television period. You can just feel the negative, phony, narcissistic energy pouring from him. Bad human being.

[quote] Don Lemon is just one of the worst people on television period. You can just feel the negative, phony, narcissistic energy pouring from him. Bad human being.

In other words he is a typical 21st century CNN host

Does anyone know the current status of the trial? Are the jurors deliberating or have they been sent home for the night?

No verdict today R278

The fact the jury didn't decide today is favorable to Jussie. Most people assumed this would be a slam dunk.

R222 Marry me (a little)

[quote]This will end in a mistrial. The jury has one black person,

Makes absolutely no difference r262. As r265 said black people's opinions on the matter are as varied as another group. Also, he is claiming a straight identified black man had sex with him, which is probably the more unfavorable to some than the actual crime.

But like I've said its still very unlikely he will get jail time if convicted.

What a smug piece of shit.

Is the jury sequestered? Even if not, they get a daily rate of pay, you could just have a member or two who wanted one more day for the money. I wouldn't read too much into them not immediately reaching a verdict.

I don’t believe the twins are straight. If they claimed they were, they’re lying under oath.

What exactly is his defense? Is he still claiming that white MAGAs beat him up??

R284, Juror pay is usually just a nominal amount of money.

R287 Yes, but if you get an older person on a fixed income on one, that nominal pay looks pretty good.

I never got paid for my jury duty.

R245 that was for one season. He was likely well paid before then too.

I know you want that Jurnee story to be true, but pretending he didn't have and doesn't have money is silly.

Some states only pay if you're below a certain income level or if you're not getting paid leave from your job to attend the trial.

Do they get a fancy hotel room?

R266 sorry dear, you just aren't funny. Humor is a sign of intelligence.

r286, yes, and to distract from that huge lie the defense is claiming that one of the brothers had a sexual relationship with Jussie and turned on him by claiming Jussie paid them for services other than personal training. Essentially Jussie is try to play the role of a damsel in distress who totally succumbed to the masculine wiles of African trade

Its funny how he claimed to be the gay Tupac, but in the same breath wants us to believe he is an unassuming, delicate flower who was taken advantage of. You can't have it both ways sir

According to the internet jurors in Cook County get around $17.20 a day. Not much. But, again if you are talking about a person on Social Security, SSI, or some other form of welfare, an extra $17.20 right before the holidays is worth stretching it out for one extra day, especially if you have nothing else to do.

I seriously doubt they are stretching it out intentionally.

Jussie is innocent. Nobody is holding out for $17.00?? You're nutty R295. And RACIST.

I told you all, the one black juror will never convict.

Is the black juror the one on welfare, desperate for $17.20?

They are going to find him guilty, but they want to make it look like they actually put some time into it is my guess. They probably took an initial vote as soon as they got into the jury room and it it was clear. But to mosey on out 15 minutes later with their verdict would have been a "bad look".

Judging on her hair alone, I’m guessing Jussie’s crazy comes from his mother

They finished the closing arguments in the afternoon. The jury goes home shortly after that. They haven't even had time to review everything.

Catering provided by Subway? Asking for a friend (the salad).

If Juicy is found guilty, will he appeal? How long can he stretch this out?

I didn't watch or read anything about the trial. Does the gay community want him found guilty or what?

R305 read some of the thread?

The gay community would like justice to be served.

One nutjob on here wants him found guilty. The trial is a non event. Gay on Gay crime. Yawn.

R308 The Nigerians are not gay.

They are GAY FOR PAY. $17.20 a day! #Justice4Jussie.

I'm not going to bother to find the link, but the NYPost reported they did begin deliberations before breaking for the night.

Why aren’t they gay.

g4p. And work as extras on Empire.

Why are they gay for pay.

They do the gay things for cash.

Why do they have to be. Why can’t they bi. Or gay.

Why, in the gay man’s mind, is gay for pay more believable, more acceptable than actually being bi or gay?

R317 Who said that?

Gay is a lifestyle choice that most Nigerians would not want. But everyone likes money and being on TV. When you're built like that - the gay mens will pay just to touch your body.

Jussie liked it a big rougher. But they misunderstood the assignment. It's all been a misunderstanding. Jussie should have paid more. Gay for Pay is not cheap.

The gay man insistent the two Nigerians are that homophobic “gay for pay”.

[quote]Gay is a lifestyle choice

Valid point.

[quote] Gay is a lifestyle choice that most Nigerians would not want.

Thank you, Senator Jesse Helms. We've progressed a bit beyond those ideas, though--it's no longer 1983.

[quote] [R308] The Nigerians are not gay.

Neither am I!

The jury deliberated for 2 hours today.

[quote]Gay is a lifestyle choice

When will this notion become acceptable? It’s only a matter of time.

Where the men go up into the man?

Going up into the man costs extra. A lot more.

The jury asked to see the calender the prosecution entered into evidence of the days the three got together and drove around the area.

[quote]Do they get a fancy hotel room?

The Fairprice Motel.

So this thread has got homophobe right wingers posting, I'm unsurprised.

^^^ Oh honey, this thread has had them all. Just wait awhile. If you haven't see it yet, don't worry, they'll be back.

r330 dont take these hoes seriously. They are trolling like Jussie, stunt queen of century 😁

[quote]Gay is a lifestyle choice that most Nigerians would not want

I stopped reading after "lifestyle choice."

He was ravaged by Nigerians.

If he does community service I vote for Naomi Campbell to choose his wardrobe.

R131 and R133, he obviously meant "I, Jesus" which does have the same letters as "Jussie". It also was probably a joke, not a conspiracy theory.

It was probably narcissism.

R336, see r259 and r260.

[quote]It's almost impossible to not somehow develop an emotional attachment to someone you're fucking.

Not for men it isn't. In fact, it's usually the other way around. Especially if the sex takes place too soon in the relationship.

Is there such a thing as fucking too soon? I don't understand the concept.

He's got a movie and TV series io the works.

R340 Sounds like ‘Life Twirls On’ from Kenya. Aka not a real project

If he's found guilty and gets jail time hopefully those projects will go kaput.

Jurors have been deliberating for just over four hours total. Looks like Jussie's stage presence (from the witness stand) made an impression.

Guilty

Really, R344?

They haven't finished deliberating yet, r344 is wishful thinking af this point.

[quote]He's got a movie and TV series in the works.

"Shopping" new projects, as the headline says, and actually having new projects in the works are very different things.

Is it a hung jury? And yes, I’m asking about the men on the jury.

R343 What a stupid thing to say. Court isn’t a sitcom in which people walk into deliberations and shout “guilty!”, no matter how good the evidence. They have to take time and speak, and look at all the evidence.

It took the Duggar case two days, and that was a slam dunk.

Lol at him having projects in the works. As if.

I don't care as much if he gets jail time, I'd like it,but it' is doubtful. But if this little cunt gets a not guilty verdict, I'm going to be fucking LIVID.

MARY! MARY! MARY!

Yes, I know, but whatever. Mary! a thousand times over, I'm not joking. LIVID. This is the same little bitch who made his younger brother take the fall for his DUI some years ago. He's a hemorrhoid on the face of the earth.

That said, let's remember that this trial isn't over until Crissy Metz sings.

R347 The film he directed premiered but hasn’t even found a distributor. I feel bad for the actors involved however. It was a Black gay love story, so it would have gotten praise regardless of how shit it was because it is now taboo to criticize Black films. If he would have just not been a idiot and fake a hate crime, he would have gotten tons of awards for it.

R343 They’ve been deliberating for 6+ hours total. Doing their due diligence, going through all the evidence.

Some other deliberation times:

If they find him not guilty, this man will be the epitome of the word "insufferable"

[quote] If they find him not guilty, this man will be the epitome of the word "insufferable"

And that position had already been filled by Harry & Meghan.

[quote Lol at him having projects in the works. As if.

This asshole can’t afford Jen Aniston’s publicist. NOBODY believes he has any projects in the works.

JUST ONE FUCKING THREAD WITHOUT MENTIONING HARRY AND MEGHAN PLEASE GOD!

i'm guessing hung jury or not guilty.

[quote]Jurors have been deliberating for just over four hours total. Looks like Jussie's stage presence (from the witness stand) made an impression.

If he walks, I think that will be a reason why.

He was smart to take the stand. He's an actor, a performer and totally brazenly convinced of his innocence and that really can sway people.

Have you ever sat on a jury? Absolutely anything is possible. You would not believe how truly stupid our average, fellow Americans really are until you see them in a setting in which they are asked to think.

Any updates?

[Quote]Any updates?

Still deliberating.

I was a jury member on a murder trial. In downtown Brooklyn with a. cross section of New Yorkers. Ivy League doctorate here. I was impressed by how quickly my fellow jurors identified the key questions and how we dealt with them precisely. It took 2 days, so one overnight.

Fucking hell. Look at that cooze posing at r362 He should have the book thrown at him for that alone.

My experience on a jury was similar to r363. Ordinary people trying to be fair. The sneering was in no way descriptive of them.

I feel bad for his mum.

There’s a verdict, guys!

verdict!

He should pay for the disloyalty to his friends, alone.

One may hope

I’ve been on several Manhattan juries. They were all miserable experiences. On one, a woman sat in the corner and refused to participate in discussion because “she was disrespected.” Never did find out why she felt slighted. And she started this crap from the moment the trial had finished and we were led back to the jury room.

Well. Manhattan is Capital of Neurosis.

Verdict in! Live....

I hope they find him guilty.

Please please please....guilty guilty guilty. Please please please

Let Crissy Metz sing already!

R439 i hope u can kiss my ass

Why are there not federal charges for the made up threatening letter? To my mind, that was the bigger crime.

Verdict reached. I’m watching FOX News, because the woke networks aren’t covering it, of course.

I wish this trial was here in Texas where we have the death penalty available.

r377 That falls under the FBI and it turns out that they can take their very long sweet time to decide to prosecute or not. Let's hope that after this, they swoop in.

I don't think they found proof he wrote it, R377. The FBI was supposed to be investigating.

Are the Smellits being rushed to court in a limo.....will they all stand and hold hands to hear the verdict.....well Jesus and God be thanked and praised......

Will Jussie and Justice triumph?

Ola in the house

Ellen Page is holding her breath

Juicy is enjoying a subway sandwich before he finds out the verdict

If found not guilty, can you imagine how insufferable he will be. Hell go on a victory tour

If those two Nigerians are claiming to be straight, I hope not guilty for Jussie. I change my mind.

They are lying under oath.

Jussie will burn in hell for this.

I think the credibility of those two might sink this case. They were clearly lying about being gay (although I believe them about the setup). Might be enough for reasonable doubt.

And if he is found guilty, he will act like he's been crucified on a cross unjustly. He'll never stop playing the martyr card.

Clearly lying about being gay?

Only one of the brothers was possibly gay.

Ugh hurry up!!!

You can’t possibly be gay or bi when you’re masturbating and having sex with guys.

The court room is waiting for Jussie. He must be putting on his make-up

Even if he is found not guilty, he truly is a piece of shit lowlife. Actually, no. Shit is a higher class than Jussie.

This little asshole is keeping everyone waiting.

He removed his Spanx to eat a faux tuna sub.

I'm almost finished with this damned sweater.

Damn, that was fast! I think it means guilty!

I hope he is taken into custody.

BLM is gonna riot if it's a guilty verdict! They don't believe the cops

R401 Not that fast. Was about 8 hours in total.

Livestream from the front doors of the court house

They won’t r402. And r403, your troll skills are sadly lacking.

Never mind BLM rioting if it's a guilty verdict!, the Big Bang Theory cast will reduce Hollywood to ashes.

What about lying under oath? What are the consequences for that?

If he's acquitted he'll be nauseatingly insufferable. Joy Reid will get the first interview.

To be fair, r407, the idea that someone would do this to themselves was not even considered when the story first broke. It didn’t occur to me that the whole thing was fake. I mean, we know MAGATs who are very capable of doing this shit.

Mama Smollett being helped out of the car now.

Fox is live. Neither CNN or MSNBC are covering it.

R407 No, just people with half a brain knew it was a load of shit.

Waiting on this verdict chile....

Juicy just went through security

[quote]Neither CNN or MSNBC are covering it.

Wolf Blitzer is LIVE covering the verdict. BREAKING NEWS BITCH!

CNN just switched over.

they looked sober

sombre sober

We have a verdict. Any minute now.

[quote] the idea that someone would do this to themselves was not even considered when the story first broke. It didn’t occur to me that the whole thing was fake. I mean, we know MAGATs who are very capable of doing this shit.

That's simply your prejudices speaking. I and many others on this board called it in the very first thread. The "facts" as described by Jussie made NO sense.

Hold me David!

No they’re not, R416. They’re obsessing about TRUMP as usual.

Livestream

Oh, that was Smollett going in. My god, the entourage for this cunty queen.

Hurry up you fucking whores. Chrissy's snack purse is needing a refill, STAT

Just watched Fox (oh my) and there was this young Matt Finn? Looking good in his tight shirt.

So disrespectful to the jurors to make them wait for him to drag his sorry ass back to the courtroom.

r421, that's ridiculous. A few people thought it might be fake, and I think even if it were real, they'd be the same people saying it was fake.

Waiting to make my victim statement you bastard.

R423 they switched to Jussie and entourage going into the courthouse and then went back to discussing the Jan 6 committee. With no cameras allows in the courtroom, there isn’t much to show.

FOX has been covering it nonstop for at least the last half-hour.

#Justice4Jussie

Gay4Pay

It’s not over until Flabourey Sidibe sings.

Jussie has more media coverage than he ever had with Empire. Will he act in small touring productions in Mid West from now on?

This is a win win for Fox because they can spin it anyway to make outrage

Whew gurl, Jussie or Jurnee couldn't pay for Mother Smollett to get her hair done for this intergalactic event?

It's not over until Chrissy Metz sings, r434

DL needs to hire a news correspondent that attend these type of events and report back in real time.

Guilty?

FOX:

Jussie - not guilty - US won't convict blacks because BLM and woke

Jussie - guilty - Blacks be crazy

Isn't that Vaughn Hilyard, R439?

BWAHAHAHA

GUILTY!!

Guilty on five counts

Racebaiting lying little shit is GUILTY

Guilty of 5 first ones

GUILTY

What is CNN doing?

#Justice4Nigeria

Gay for pay raises NOW!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does the sentencing happen immediately?

What was count 6?

CNN lost this one. Phil is always cute to see but come on.

The jury paid attention to the evidence, unlike Kamala Harris.

6 was making a false report that he was the victim of an aggravated battery.

Goodbye Smug asshole.

R453 not guilty

5 of 6 counts. 5 false police reports on different assaults

Count 6 for false report aggravated battery = not guilty.

I am sure Jussie will somehow try and spin the fact that he was found not guilty on one count as vindication.

Haha. Stupid Jussie.

Guilty of five out of six is still pretty definitive!

Wow, I would have thought count 6 would have been an obvious one.

Maybe Jussie and Josh can do a road tour of Chicago in drag!

Oh, I forgot. Josh won't be available for awhile.

How much jail time is that?

R435 He'll be a drama instructor at an HBCU.

Sarah Snider going for the Emmy.

Now comes the perjury charges....

What happens next?

When is the interview with Robin Roberts?

[QUOTE] Guilty on five of six counts

[QUOTE] What was count 6?

Convincingly playing a heterosexual male in “Alien: Covenant.”

The Duggar family must be happy that Josh's wasn't the only big trial today.

Not guilty of what?!

or vice versa

Technically, he is up for 15 years.

There's no jail time involved. Sheesh. It's not that big a deal.

Two muscle brother Nigerians beat him up and then framed him. After he gave them free drugs and handjobs. Jussie is the victim here, but he should have kept it out of the courts.

jurors were assholes for not delivering on Count 6, the most important. Probably was a bargain between white and black

You’ve got five felonies now, asshole.

I'm so fucking happy!

Joey Jackson on CNN right now. I don't remember him on The Victory Tour.

First time offender, minor felonies. He wont do jail time. Fines and community service.

But he's ruined, I tell ya. RUINED!

I want to see Dan Abrams Live tonight on News Nation for his legal analysis.

R476 do you kiss your Black mother with that lying mouth of yours?

r476, why on earth would they do that? There is no earthly reason they would beat him up and frame him for it. That's just ludicrous thinking. Did you actually watch any of the case and evidence? I thought not.

I imagine there will be some jail time, just for being an annoying twat.

All this asshole had to do was pay the fine in the first place, and none of this would have happened.

FUCK YOU JUSSIE!

There was so much surveillance video that contradicted what Smollett said happened, along with surveillance video that supported what the brothers said. Geez, this was a no brainer.

BREAKING NEWS: Cook County inmates rejoice, new bussy on the way!

Honestly, what was he thinking? I can’t wrap my mind around this. Why throw it all away. For what?

Felon Jussie won't be able to vote against "45" in 2024.

His mother MUST know she raised a lying narcissist. Maybe that's why she didn't bother with her hair. It's a smoke signal. She loves him but knows who he is.

The big question is how mentally ill is Jussie. He has folie de grandeur and narcissism. How long will he be aware that he's pox on society? Sometimes it can't sink in, otherwise they implode.

i have no desire to see him in prison but glad he was found guilty.

Okay, I’ve been bouncing between Fox and CNN since both are pretty good at breaking news…. And Fox has a hot little piece report from the courthouse, Matt Finn. Toned body, pretty face, TIGHT blue shirt… daddy like. I may have to start popping by Fox for news more often. Maybe it’s a okay to get more gay viewers? I need to go 9 inches deep into Matt Finn.

Why not prison? He is a very public figure and his ruse caused damage and tort to a lot of people.

Has VP Harris issued a statement?

I still love that he picked a place right in front of a security camera so the "attack" would be recorded. But he, an actor, couldn't tell the front of the camera from the back so nothing was caught on cam!

R490 Same. Prison would be overkill.

Meant to say “Maybe it’s their ploy to get more gay viewers.”

Do narcissists believe their own constant lies? To push this seems incredibly self destructive and delusional.

If he goes to prison it will be a very short time. Mychal Kendricks only did 1 day in prison for insider trading. Im hearing on the news that this incident using up precious public resources will weigh on the sentence, especially being that this was in Chicago where there is so much crime. So he may get a few days in jail.

Jussie can’t vote against Trump in 24. All it takes is ONE VOTE to lose. Trump wins in 24. Thanks Jussie.

Any jail time would help it sink into his thick skull. That he's not untouchable. And his shit DOES stink. But the brain matter seems ossified.

Is it too late to send thoughts and prayers?

[quote] using up precious public resources will weigh on the sentence,

How about PERJURY, will that weigh on the sentence? This little shit lied on the stand.

The women on LSA are celebrating, and you know how they stick up for almost all Black men regardless of what they do.

R159 Kamala Harris was going to launch her presidential bid on it. That's why Don lemon was texting Smollett advice.

OK, it's lame Psychology Today, but yes, narcissists can believe their own lies.

[quote] Do narcissists believe their own constant lies? To push this seems incredibly self destructive and delusional.

“It's not a lie if you believe it.” -- George Costanza

[quote]The women on LSA are celebrating, and you know how they stick up for almost all Black men regardless of what they do.

That site is a black nationalist hate site with strong views against Jews and gays. It’s sickening people post there AND here.

Now I just want the Nigerian brothers to get a tell all tv movie deal and become rich-

That too r504. But he still is not going to jail for an extended period of time.

Just heard probably no jail time, probation and community service.

[quote]Im hearing on the news that this incident using up precious public resources will weigh on the sentence, especially being that this was in Chicago where there is so much crime. So he may get a few days in jail.

The people of Chicago are pissed about this case and want his lying ass locked up for a long time.

Agreed, he won’t do jail time. But his reputation (what little was left) is trashed. He’s now known as the actor who was found guilty of staging a hate crime hoax. Not ‘accused of’ but ‘GUILTY of.’

GUILTY!!!!

Hopefully he will get jail time. What he did was disgusting

[quote]you know how they stick up for almost all Black men regardless of what they do

Totally incorrect r505, and everyone here making blanket statements about how black people react to this are racist.

[quote] In Illinois, a convicted felon has just as much of a right to vote as any other citizen in the state. As long as you are not incarcerated, meaning serving a prison sentence, you can register and cast a vote in Illinois.

His smug, assholish demeanor, blatant lying in court, and complete lack of remorse are likely to convince the judge to give him jailtime.

He'll fulfill his community service requirement by teaching hip-hop dance to inner-city youth.

Nothing but a mule in horse harness.

A good looking narcissist like Jussie can ride it for a long time. I bet if you poked around his last 18 years, there is some carnage. Well, now everyone has his number. You'd be an idiot to have anything to do with him, professionally, socially, or romantically. He just back stabbed his friends for all the world to see, and shat onthe entire police and justice system, and black civil rights. What a colossal asshole.

R518 Not in federal elections

Ironically, it would be better for his career if he did do jail time. At least a few months. Then he could come out humble, reformed, and people would feel he paid his debt to society. (Prison did wonders for Robert Downey, Jr.).

With no jail time, people believe he still got away with it. He's fucked.

The City of Chicago is suing him for $130K, the cost of the investigation. 10-1 he doesn't have it.

Yes, he's fucked.

R380 Are you sure it falls under the FBI? If it was actually sent through the mail the Postal Inspection Service can claim jurisdiction. Fighting about jurisdiction, among various agencies, has been know to slow things down before.

Also, btw, did anybody else know that just like procedurals have featured the FBI, NCIS, CIA, ATF, etc... as basis for their shows the Postal Inspection Service got their own procedural that was filmed in Charleston, SC and shown at the end of Saturday morning kids shows called, "The Inspectors." It ran for 4 seasons and 104 episodes. The USPS payed for it themselves with what they seized through civil asset forfeiture and consumer fraud awareness funds.

Dan Webb roasting Juicy on air right now. “Got up there and LIED to the jury. For HOURS.”

RD Jr didn't go to prison for being a lying sack of shit narcissist and gross waster of public time and resources. He went to prison for violating probation on drug possession charges.

[quote]First time offender, minor felonies. He wont do jail time. Fines and community service. But he's ruined, I tell ya. RUINED!

Your glee is unseemly. Come sit next to me.

[quote] [R518] Not in federal elections

Hmm you are WRONG, and I will provide the same amount of proof that you did in your post.

R524 Or Martha Stewart. People like her a whole lot more after she went to jail. My mom thought she was a stuck up bitch. After she got out suddenly she was like, "that Martha Stewart is so strong and humble."

His sentencing won't be for a few weeks.

r522 can you imagine the guys he's burned romantically? It's no wonder he never publicly had a boyfriend and was paying trade for company.

R526 Yes, the (fake) letter he sent falls under the purview of the FBI, and they are very serious charges. Back in the old threads we kept waiting and waiting, but nada. Now they might finally put the hammer down.

Martha Stewart was busted for insider trading. I worked a bit at the SEC. There are THOUSANDS of good leads every month: Who they choose to take down is highly political.

r531 well unfortunately for Jussie he will likely never shake the reputation of being a stuck up bitch, even if he does hard time.

All this talk about redemption or saving his reputation only works with people who admit culpability (like Martha Stewart or RDJ) Jussie will never admit guilt and will instead double down on the racism and homophobia accusations.

If you come up with these piss poor comparisons to other celebrity law breakers, please shut the fuck up and think carefully about the truly degenerate and anti-social acts of Jussie Smollett. Who was given several opportunities to deescalate this "mistake" and walk away.

"I fought the fuck back"!

Is Chris Wray expected to issue a statement?

Can he appeal the decision?

Things are moving fast now. Here is Part 3

You lose, Chi Chi !

[quote]Martha Stewart was busted for insider trading.

Nope. She was convicted of lying to the FBI about it. Don't lie to the Feds.

I bet there are at least 2 dozen "dickmitized by Jussie" guys who are smiling right now.

Dan Webb was asked about perjury charges after his public statement tonight (just before fucking CNN cut away.) He said perjury charges are usually not pursued in these cases (where a defendant takes the stand in his own defense and lies.) Unfortunately.

Ok OK for "lying about insider trading". big difference? it was insider trading that did her in. And she copped to it.

If they haven't dealt with the letter by now it means they don't have evidence he did it, although it seems pretty obvious he did. But that isn't evidence. You guys should probably give up on that one.

I just hope he gets at least two years of jail time, and I hope he gets a massive fine, plus what he owes the police department.

It’s a shanda fur di neighbors.

Oh, and those of you whining because mainstream networks aren't covering this trial as heavily as Fox News/other right wing networks - notice how they are barely covering the Epstein trial in lieu of this one? It's because seeing a (lying) black guy get his comeuppance is more fun for the Fox News audience than a middle-aged white woman.

Fear Mongrels!!

He’ll get probation, a fine and community service. He’s a first time offender.

r548 That isn't true, there is no statute of limitations in that case. They can (and have) take their sweet time to prosecute him.

He actually thought white supremacists' watched Empire and recognized him on the street.

Sure they will, keep fucking that chicken, r553.

What was the sixth charge that he was not guilty of?

This could be nomination material for Michael Beach!

(and of course Viola could play the suffering mother if she tones down her new found sexiness.)

Maybe ol' Jus' will take a cue from fellow postal criminal Bruce Ivins and OD on Tylenol before going to prison.

It could be a good broadway musical or contemporary opera. Though blacks would be outraged, I guess, by the negative portrayal. I'd like to know more about his ex friends the bodybuilders.

My phone is bogging out. Reminder of link to Part 3

R505 You guys are obsessed with LSA. The only black man they defend is Michael Jackson.

[quote] Nope. She was convicted of lying to the FBI about it. Don't lie to the Feds.

Which I will always say is a stupid unconstitutional law. The FBI, and all law enforcement agencies, should be aware that 95%+ of suspects are lying to them, also it should be expected because it is human nature to protect themselves. There job is to find evidence to prove I did something, it isn't my job to tell them I did it. I also feel such a law contradicts the Fifth Amendment. I believe that lying to law enforcement should fall under protection from self-incrimination. But, I believe in a fairly broad interpretation of most Constitutional provisions, which many on the Left and Right do not share.

Now the country can begin to heal.

I love this part:

[quote]When Smollett’s attorney Nenye Uche addressed the panel, he said the prosecution’s case was riddled with “doubts” and built on the testimony of two brothers who are criminals and “certified liars.”

[quote]Uche also questioned why Smollett would instruct his attackers to wear pro-Trump hats and yell slogans like, “This is MAGA country!”

[quote]“He’s dumb enough to go into Obama’s city and pretend there’s Trump supporters running around with MAGA hats?” he said. “Give me a break.”

Yes, yes, he is that dumb, Jussies' defense lawyer.

[quote] Which I will always say is a stupid unconstitutional law. The FBI, and all law enforcement agencies, should be aware that 95%+ of suspects are lying to them

R562 that is why you don't answer questions without a lawyer there. You don't have to lie, just refuse to talk to them.

He needs a little prison time to knock down some of that extreme arrogance that he has.

[quote]The City of Chicago is suing him for $130K, the cost of the investigation. 10-1 he doesn't have it.

He doesn't but his sugar daddies who have been supporting him for the last three years since this happened will cover it

Then he’ll act like he’ll have street cred.

Does Jussie pay in dongage or hole? Both?

[quote] [R562] that is why you don't answer questions without a lawyer there. You don't have to lie, just refuse to talk to them.

Yeah, so you have to pay a lawyer to lie for you. Let people do it naturally without making money for others. Lying is literally one of the very first human traits we naturally develop right after talking. It is a normal natural reaction to being accused of a crime, therefore it should not be criminalized.

Perjury is different, and should remain criminalized, just not lying to law enforcement.

R556, the most important part, it’s kind of a win for Jussie if you think about it.

Of course he has the money to pay the cops. He's not poor, despite the people in this thread. You guys remind me of the Meghan-haters (and I expect there is a great deal of overlap given that she's been mentioned multiple times in this thread) - people can actually be fairly successful (like Jussie was) but when you hate someone for emotional reasons, your brain can't seem to accept that the person isn't 100% incompetent, so anything they have is claimed they got from someone else, he got his roles by fucking people, everything they have and have done wasn't due to any effort on their part, etc. etc.

I get the instinct, but you should realize that means you aren't capable of being objective about the person.

r571 Nice try.

Here's some information on perjury.

I'm curious if, since he did take the stand, they can bring perjury charges against him later. It sounds like they can because his lies could have had material impact on the proceedings. I hope they do. This is also why, I think, lawyers tell you not to testify in your own defense.

I'm sure that will be the Judge's first question at the sentence hearing r569

[quote] What was the sixth charge that he was not guilty of?

Why don't you read the fucking thread? It was answered several times. Lazy cunt.

Ha ha ha asshole! Fucken moron. The jury made the right decision.

When IS the sentencing supposed to take place?

R562 and R570, you go right ahead and do that if you ever find yourself in legal trouble.

Why do you think the Miranda Warning exists? You have the right to remain silent... anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law... That law exists for a reason. To tell idiots like you to shut the fuck up. You're in no way as smart as you think you are. But you are more than within your rights to keep on talking.

A good percentage of criminal cases are built on circumstantial evidence.

Put it all together.. . I'm not confident you will piece it all together

This is how a pro skates on the feds

[quote]people can actually be fairly successful (like Jussie was) but when you hate someone for emotional reasons, your brain can't seem to accept that the person isn't 100% incompetent, so anything they have is claimed they got from someone else, he got his roles by fucking people, everything they have and have done wasn't due to any effort on their part, etc. etc.

r572 this is Datalounge in a nutshell

r579 Let it go, obsesstiva.

r579, let it go, hon.

r580 it's not just the DL, it's a large part of society. Recognizing it, though, can be helpful.

is there a new thread?

see r542

R584 Yes. Brought to you by Chrissy Metz, and dedicated to The Salad

Jussie deserves to serve a jail sentence, maybe less than a year? The jury got it right. What a selfish and hateful thing he did.

Special Prosecutor Dan Webb speaks.

And Ola…

R579 This is how a pro skates on the Feds

[quote] R590 Let it go, obsesstiva.

Fake dick pic @ R545. I’ve seen that same pic tied to six different guys in the last six months.

No links, no believe you r592.

Will the verdict affect Jussie's many TV and movie projects he has "in the works"?

R589 “Nigerian American lives matter” - oh shit!

R593, I’m not the one making the claim, doofus! Lol…So no proof Miss Justine is packing anything other than a plump bussy. Typical for RWNJ trolls.

Local Chicago news reports JS's defense team plans to appeal.

Yeah that’s what they all say, R597. Let ‘em try, they’ve got no case.

Never. Forget. The. Salad.

He can't admit it was fake, because it would make his friends, who stuck with him initially, look bad. As long he insists it was real, it gives his friends some cover. His career is dead, but his friends might support him on the downlow.

R591 not the same thing, considering he's still being sued, lying, and conspiring. But nice try.