I feel like there’s more to this story…

What’s missing from the story? That they were being belligerent Jewish pains in the ass? That’s possible. And my instinct is to roll my eyes at the idea that their religious regalia cannot ever touch the floor.

BUT. It seems obvious that they have a case against the airline.

Seems complete to me. The stewardess was on a power trip.

Sorry, but I have never seen a flight attendant take something out of the overhead bin and say they have to put it on the floor, unless it didn't fit above and the hatch wouldn't close. I agree, this makes no sense, but then it IS the NY Post.

We live in a world where Jewish kids out celebrating Hannukah in London this week were attacked by men spitting at them and giving Nazi salutes.

I have no problem believing a cabin crew person would have such contempt for Jewish tradition she would go out of her way to cause maximum offence.

A nazi flght attendant? Yeah, right...

I had a friend who, when we were moving him once, had his tallit, prayer shawl, and other such items fall on the floor when I opened the drawer they were in to pack its contents. All his dildos fell out at the same time.

He jumped to grab the dildos first.

I find it hard to believe that a flight attendant harassing an elderly couple would get no pushback from other passengers. I agree there's more to this story.

I have seen it r3, it was on a Frontier flight back from Vegas several years ago, the stewardess was going through the overhead compartments for some reason, took out a bag, dropped it so hard on the floor that it made a huge noise and scared everyone on the plane, then took it to someone a couple rows ahead of us and told them it had to be stashed on the floor under the seat in front of them.

There was no reason for it, the compartments were closed and latched so there was obviously room for everything up there.

[quote]I have no problem believing a cabin crew person would have such contempt for Jewish tradition she would go out of her way to cause maximum offence.

I'd bet cash money she didn't know the first thing about Judaism and just assumed he was lying about it being a religious item because he didn't want to put it on the floor.

R8 sounds like there's more to your story as well

Exactly, r9. The average person doesn't know about Jewish traditions. I do like the fact that the Post has adopted the Mail's practice of using a photo that shows a glum couple to illustrate the story.

It was a weird flight, r10. I asked for some peanuts when the cart came by and the same stewardess made a huge stink about it, "We don't have peanuts! There are no peanuts here! If we had peanuts I'd know about it!" so I ordered trail mix, which had peanuts. Later the stewardess was moving some guys around who had been sitting near each other but she separated them for some reason. It was a small plane so I feel like if there had been a disturbance, we'd have seen it. The only yelling and loud noise on the flight came from her.

Well, it was Frontier after all, plenty of nazis working on those flights, I would bet.

There was probably very limited overhead space on a full flight, and the flight attendant needed room to fit a rollerboard. They do make multiple announcements during boarding that the overheads are for larger suitcases and smaller items must go under the seat in front of you.

Also, who packs their diabetes medication in checked luggage, as this couple claims?

Someone high up in the organization stashed the money and then lost access to the building. Probably Osteen figured out who took the money early on, let him go and then filed the insurance claim. It's a lot easier recouping the money from insurance than turning the culprit over to the police and dealing with the fallout. I imagine a fair number of people know who took the money and have kept quiet. I'm sure they preferred not to deal with a scandal of embezzlement or a media spotlight on how much money they actually rake in.

^ Wrong thread! Sorry!

1. I call bullshit on this story as reported.

2. Regardless, I’m so very tired of “religious exemptions” as an excuse for noncompliance. (For example, not getting vaccinated due to a religious exemption. WTF??)

Failure to follow a crew member’s instructions is grounds for removal, per the FAA. So these people are not going to win any lawsuit. However, the airline may give them some money to make them go away.

The ignorance on the part of the flight attendant is offensive.

Was the bag preventing the overhead bin from being secured? I doubt it.

I hope the couple gets a nice settlement and United employees receive cultural sensitivity training.

Of course, there are so few Jews in Miami.

[quote] The average person doesn't know about Jewish traditions.

Then the average person is uneducated. I came from a very Christian suburb but learned about this stuff when I was in high school.

The ignorance in this thread is offensive. "According to Jewish tradition, prayer books are holy and cannot just be thrown out. Traditionally, they must be placed in a geniza, a repository for holy books awaiting burial. It’s the only religiously acceptable way to dispose of them."

According to the Chabad, this category also includes: "Torah scrolls, their mantles and sashes; tefillin, their straps, covers and bags; mezuzah scrolls, wrappings and cases; a parochet (cloth ark covering) and bima (Torah reading table) cover; tzitzit or tallit fringes; Torah books, their covers, dust jackets, slip covers or other parts. Materials containing: (a) G‑d's name, (b) three consecutive words of a biblical verse, when written on one line with the intent to quote the verse, or (c) other written or printed Torah ideas or laws. Schoolwork, homework and test papers may be included in this category if they contain any of the above."

Similar rituals for the Tallit, a prayer shawl worn by men.

R19 CORRECTION: American Airlines employees, not United employees.

Power tripping stewardess.

I find it hard to believe that a stewardess who works the NYC - Miami route can be so oblivious about Jewish religious paraphernalia.

I believe it all, especially the power tripping flight attendant. My only reservation is believing a flight attendant flying in and out of NYC wouldn’t know about the prayer shawl. I am with R20. I also hope the couple wins, it does sound humiliating…and callous.

I do not believe that the flight attendant screamed at the elderly couple. And it's rather hard to believe she would not know about Jewish traditions if she works the Miami - New York route.

Something happened, but the couple is exaggerating.

You need to fly more, especially since the onset of COVID. “Air Bitches,” as the late Joan Rivers called them, are quite common, and I mean that in every sense of the word.

Come back R15, R16. Take me to that thread, it sounds like a good one. I’ll check back on this elderly couple later…

I also agree there’s more to this story, at the very least, another side.

{quote]The stewardess was on a power trip

Stewardess???

I'm not r15 / r16, but I think it's from this thread r28:

Guess they should've asked for a kosher flight.

Yes, that's it, r30. Thanks!

Flight attendant schedules and routes are bid on by seniority in the airline industry. At American, NYC to Miami is probably not a popular route among senior flight attendants, since it most likely has a reputation for difficult passengers. So in all likelihood, these flights are staffed with the most junior crew members, who may not really care or understand about religious particulars.

You're welcome, r32, and in good company ;-)

[quote] Stewardess???

I typed Air-cunt, but my spellchecker changed it.

something's fishy - and it's not the gefilte fish. planned lawsuit?

Why do they leave out the O. When spelling God

I knew a girl from Yemen that wrote a people that said "Oh my G_d"

I was thinking if God didn't want us to use the O he wouldn't have invented it.

It's sacrilegious to write god's name, or something like that, R37

I think the whole "it can't touch the floor" thing is a little ridiculous. It's in a bag, it's not actually going to touch the floor. If it's that crucial, then buy another seat to store your religious paraphernalia.

Every religious ritual is ridiculous. We're following rules set forth by men in all probability smelled like shit and had even worse breath.

That you or I find the ritual ridiculous is beside the point. From the DOT site "Federal law prohibits airlines from discriminating against airline passengers based on race, color, national origin, religion, ...."

I get offended when flight attendants ask to remove a small bag from the overhead when you don't have a roll aboard. We all paid the same, why should someone else get overhead space just because they packed more vs. someone who packed less? These passengers were entitled to the overhead space as much as anyone else. The packed light on purpose.

The not so thinly veiled anti-Semitism on this thread is pretty scary. 'There must be more to the story". Yeah "those evil Jews must've done something!!!"

Most you can see in the picture that there was Hebrew writing on the items in the bag; that's pretty good sign it's religious.

I"m sure if the air-cunt threw a Christian bible or a Koran on the floor some of these DL'ers' reactions would be different.

Why couldn't this guy sit in his seat with the shawl or whatever it was around his shoulders? And the prayer book in his lap? Stewardesses tell you all the time small personal items are to go under the seat in front of you leaving room in the overhead for for larger carry-ons

This couple sound exhausting.

Why don't they just get some other bag to put the shawl bag in. I mean I would think you would anyway to avoid even the chance of it touching the floor. And what do they do when they take the bus? Just get one of the many tote bags you surely like all if us have lying around the house somewhere. Also I can't imagine it's anymore acceptable to stow it with other common gentile bags touching it and out your view.

That reminds me if this other sketch from the Edge where it was like a Spanish sh telenueva and it was dubbed into nonsensical English I think to replace dirty words and one character probably Julie Brown was like 'e out the postcard in the tote bag. I wish I could find that sketch.

R43 and R44 proving my point at R42.

R46 I'm not being anti semetic. I'm genuinely thinking from a logical perspective that if I had something so sacred that it cannot touch the ground id donate enough to get a pbs tote bag should the worst happen such as dropping it or some cunty sky prostitution whore.

Kowtowing to ANY elaborate or even "deeply held" religious rules is always a very bad idea. The US and businesses are not her to placate the ever more pious of various sects of any stupid religions. There's no end to it, it holds the rest of us hostage to Bronze Age notions and it's fucking stupid.

Do as you're told or get off the damn plane. Better yet never leave your block where I'm certain you fit right in, or you've just beaten them into submission. I'm over people with all their dumb religious rules. Fuck off!

This is reminding me if how there is a whole industry if marketing and selling products to get around all their weird ass rules depending on your congregations interpretation and adherence to the talmic and how most wouldn't be aware or the weird thing with the fishing line and how controversial that can be it kosher elevators. I guess my point is that there is probably in some catalog somewhere a product to resolve this very issue with some rabbis indifferent endorsement. You want I should bless this bag to envelope the shawl bag to prevent it's tarnishment. Sure. Who am I to say.

[quote] I hope the … United employees receive cultural sensitivity training

How many hundreds of hours do they need? There are more than 3800 cultures in the world.

I think giving them tasers and wide latitude with which to use them is the only cultural sensitivity that is needed.

I find it unlikely that the couple flying, schlepping luggage to the airport along with this bag of religious paraphernalia didn't at any point accidentally set it down to print out a ticket or waiting to go through screening. That being said, once they objected on religious grounds, the stewardess should have tried to make a reasonable accommodation. I do know that whenever I have visited a Jewish house of worship for bar mitzvahs and the like, they have been quick to instruct me not to place the prayer books on the floor or on the pews.

Just another day in bigoted America (and of course on DL).

Only slightly related but why in earth do people check medication when it's a must have? Given how often luggage is delayed misrouted list or otherwise inaccessible why take the chance?

R53 oh get off it. She was insensitive to be sure but we don't all need to be reaching for our smelling salts.

[quote]schlepping luggage to the airport along with this bag of religious paraphernalia didn't at any point accidentally set it down

"Setting it down" on a table or chair is not the problem. Setting it on the floor is the problem.

And R55 joins the ever-increasing queue proving R42's point.

If your religious paraphernalia is so important to you:

Give the least bit if care to stowing it in something safe from the rummaging of flight crews and fellow passengers.

Put it in some sort of backpack, suitcase, satchel, tote bag, leather bag...something so that if it falls to the ground the holy bits don't touch the ground.

Don't expect the rest of the world to share your views and take appropriate precautions. Don't leave your holy shawl in a little clear plastic snap bag.

If you can't have something on your person at all times at the airport and on the flight, you risk it being shuffled around, handled by people who don't have a fucking clue about anything, let along your special shawl care rules. Take done care so that it's not vulnerable to falling on the floor. Anything in an overhead compartment is vulnerable to falling in the floor.

Don't check your life-critical medicine. Put it in a fucking carry-on back with your high holy religious crap.

This seems to come down to passengers being stupid and making themselves vulnerable to flight crews (half of whom are a hair's breadth away from going full on power trip.

Just another day accommodating the insane needs of sky daddy fetishists.

R58 would be the first to howl in full throatal outrage were he shown the same absence of consideration.

frau and grumpy old man ruin their own flight because of ancient superstitious nonsense is what I'm reading

"as an Orthodox Jew, he is forbidden to place the precious shawl on the floor." No, he isn't. There's no law that forbids you to out that crap on the floor. Can we send all the religious lunatics to Moon?

The depths that people on DL go to defend multimillion dollar companies never ceases to amaze me. Throw in a chance ti hate in the Jews, and you have a DL party.

The only reason people think there is more to this story is because people have been conditioned to think both that Jews always have a scheme and that antisemitism isn’t a real issue.

Hasn’t anyone even been on a plane? There are plenty of flight attendants who love to be rude and nasty. As for her not knowing that it was a religious item. That is very likely, even if she lived in Miami. Tallit are usually not seen outside a shul, and it isn’t like Christianity has something comparable.

But, when she found out it was a religious item, and when the family asked it not be placed on the floor, she should have found a different solution. I have a hard time believing that the talit, as small as it is, couldn’t fit in the overhead compartment. Did no one have a coat or purse stored up there? What that really the only item taking up space?

It isn’t just because this is a religious item. If someone was transporting a flag, and asked it not be placed on the ground, shouldn’t that be respected? Or a funeral urn?

Jews put up with so much shit. If only DL had even half an idea. We make compromises every single day. Going to work on Jewish festivals. Never having meal options. Work events scheduled for Shabbat. But you know what? We go along with it pretty well. We shut up and take it in stride. No one was asking for anything egregious. “Can I not put this religious item on the ground and instead have it go back in the bin where it was literally one minute ago” isn’t a wild request.

[quote]We live in a world where Jewish kids out celebrating Hannukah in London this week were attacked by men spitting at them and giving Nazi salutes. I have no problem believing a cabin crew person would have such contempt for Jewish tradition she would go out of her way to cause maximum offence.

Yeah R4 is right about this. And R42. There is a not insignificant amount of antisemitic cunts around these days as anyone that spends much time online will know

The air-cunt could of been reasonable and either left this tiny (8.5 x 8.5 inches is small) package in the overhead bin or offered to put the purse under the seat instead. It seems like exactly the sort of thing that SHOULD go in the overhead bins, its small and light, and those bins have weight limits. I'd rather have their religious package fall out and hit me on the head than somebody's 20 kg roll-on if the overhead bin came open during the flight

[quote]because of ancient superstitious

[quote]There's no law that forbids you to out that crap on the floor

Those fucking Jews should be treated as WE say.

It’s not a floor. It’s a platform in the middle of a large metal tube, held off the ground by large landing gears. It’s not like she threw it on the runway. Religious literalism is stupid, like those compasses to Mecca on Emirates planes.

Again, saying you find the tallit stupid is beside the point. These people required very little in the way of religious accommodation.

[quote] The depths that people on DL go to defend multimillion dollar companies never ceases to amaze me. Throw in a chance ti hate in the Jews, and you have a DL party.

This times 100000000000000000000000000000000000

Antisemitism is a reflex for many of DLs Eldergays as they grew up in an era when Jews were othered and where "we may be poor white trash but at least we're not Jews/Blacks/Chinese" was a way to make them feel better about their position in life.

For those unfamiliar, a tallit bag is about the size of a large manila envelope and since it is soft, could easily be jammed into an already full overhead compartment.

She was just being a cunt because she could. I've seen FAs do that to people over non-religious items - a backpack, a coat--even though the overhead space was not needed as everyone was already on the plane. It's a way to humiliate another adult and a power trip by someone who otherwise has no power.

The FA was probably fucking the captain which is why he backed her up. That little bag can fit in the seat back, obviously there was room in the overhead. It was a simple problem to resolve and now AA has a lawsuit and a PR problem.

That said, the OTT details are ridiculous= "she THREW the bag" at them , she sniffed, "it doesn't matter", MY DIABETES MEDICATION!!!! (bullshit), A HURRICANE WAS SWEEPING IN" !.

The old lady looks good for 71 but she might want to re-think the jewelry.

Air Cunt could have also let him keep it on his lap.

People keep much larger items--coats, books, bags--on their laps all the time

I remember how tough the cabin crews were on each flight I have taken between NYC and Miami. One passenger seated beside me, a “snowbird” who flew the NYC to Miami route for years, explained that many flight attendants on these routes have been toughened by difficult passengers and very often adopt stern, assertive behaviors in anticipation of demanding or aggressive passengers. He said they staff these flights with their tougher stewards.

FAA rules. On take off and landing, everything has to be secured in an overhead compartment or stored securely on the floor, under the seat in the previous row. If you are in a row behind a bulkhead, then you have to put everything you have with you in the overhead compartment. PERIOD.

This old man has the legal obligation to follow the rules. If he wants to defer to his Sky God, fine. But that Sky God has to get in line behind the FAA which makes its rules to keep passengers safe, not just to keep them subservient and tithing. The old man could have packed his prayer shawl in his carry-on baggage or in his checked baggage. Or he could have worn it. But, noooooooooo.

Fuck this old man. He didn't follow the rules that EVERYONE already knows. Religion should receive no deference when public safety is in question. Airlines are having enough trouble with the MAGAts. There is no excuse for an old man adding to it over a piece of fabric.

I believe R70 and have lived it. I despise bullies. The flight attendant deliberately bullied this poor old couple. I hope she loses her job at the very least. I wonder how much of all the recent post-COVID air drama is in response to cunts like this FA.

I see no religious animus from the flight attendant since she pulled the bag out of the overhead before the man showed he was wearing a yarmulke. She would have done the same to anyone.

[quote]FAA rules. On take off and landing, everything has to be secured in an overhead compartment or stored securely on the floor, under the seat in the previous row.

There is no FAA rule that says people who are considerate and do not bring on giant roll-aboards and have boarded the plane early enough to find space in the overhead compartment in their designated seat must remove their non-roll-aboard item to accommodate other selfish cunts who overpacked and/or are too cheap to pay to check their luggage.

99/100 - Odds that R71 works in HR

[quote] I"m sure if the air-cunt threw a Christian bible or a Koran on the floor some of these DL'ers' reactions would be different.

Then you must be new here. "More to the story" is a trope because it's used so often. There's nothing antisemitic about discussing clickbait from the New York Post. The guy who wrote "all Jews are taught not to respect women" is certainly antisemitic. The rest of us are doing what the Post wanted us to-- discussing a one-sided story about bad behavior.

[quote]Antisemitism is a reflex for many of DLs Eldergays as they grew up in an era when Jews were othered and where "we may be poor white trash but at least we're not Jews/Blacks/Chinese" was a way to make them feel better about their position in life.

Jew hatred is a reflex due to almost two millennia of socio-cultural inculcation. It has nothing to do with the age or race or ethnicity of the Jew hater. It's the ultimate in social cohesion: I may be black/white/chinese/hispanic/etc./etc., but at least I'm not a Jew, a feel-good exercise that is instinctively understandable to every single sector of society. Because Jew hatred is the only social bigotry for which there is no social censure. The social penality for racism is well-known and internalized. Jew hatred not only has scant recognition and no social censure, it is rationalized, justified, excused, accepted and rewarded. Jews remain subject to levels of bigotry that would be completely unacceptable directed toward another race/ethnicity. But Jews? Well, that's something different, innit. As the responses to this thread and myriad similar shamefully illustrate.

ALSO R76 "Some of my best friends are Jewish"

I don't understand religion or its adherents. It's all ridiculous.

People make up shit all the time to support their case and this is one of those times. No way a flight attendant would ever do what they charge. Flight attendants are happy when everything is put away, no matter where it goes.

I am not anti-Jewish in the least, but they are often go overboard and call every action they don’t like antisemitism.

Older New Yorkers make up bullshit stories like this all the time. My elderly neighbor tried to do the exact same when she took some contractors working in my space to court for punching a hole through her wall. They offered to completely fix it, but, no, she had to take them to court hoping for a big payoff. She lied her ass off in court about how the hole make her lose her tenants (in actuality the tenants, with whom I was friendly, said it was fine. They just stuck a picture over it until it could be fixed. They left because she told them she was selling the place.). Thankfully, the judge could see right through the old biddie’s lies.

This is true R81. Look at all the conniption fits and tantrums Matt throws on here at stuff he doesn't like to hear screaming anti-semitism and all the while being a Nazi himself.

I am not anti-gay in the least, but they are often go overboard and call every action they don’t like homophobia.

If they wanted to treat this shawl with respect, why did they not put it in a suitcase.

And how is stuffing it in an overhead bin any more respectful than using the area under the seat?

R42 sounds like one of the Jews that likes to play the anti semitism card. There’s clearly more to the story. Maybe they were cunts to the FA. Maybe they shoved her. Maybe the FA was a cunt. It seems highly unlikely they would be booted from a flight from what was described. Something else occurred that we’re not getting details on.

Two religious cunts. Fuck them.

Too many religious crazies on this thread. Way too many.

If you respect your religion, practice it in private. Don't parade it through the public sphere and demand that everyone kiss your ass over it.

Air travel didn’t exist when the Old Testament was written. So these people need to realize they need to make some concessions to what the FAA says if they want to travel at 36000 feet. Otherwise they can ride a donkey to Miami like in Biblical times.

First World Problems. The look on their faces is priceless. People are literally dying due to a pandemic and this is their biggest concern. lol. What a bunch of pricks.

Stewards are now having to tape people down to their seats because of their batshittery.

An unusual number of first time posters shitting on Jews.....

I'm surprised their God didn't give them a heads up in the Bible about how to deal with their religious items aboard aircraft. I mean, isn't He omniscient? Wouldn't He have known that eventually planes would be invented and that people would need to know how to deal with religious items when flying in them?

Just because Jews have been historically persecuted does not mean I'm going to stop calling out religious hypocrisy, no matter where it originates.

[quote]I'm surprised their God didn't give them a heads up in the Bible about how to deal with their religious items aboard aircraft. I mean, isn't He omniscient? Wouldn't He have known that eventually planes would be invented and that people would need to know how to deal with religious items when flying in them? Just because Jews have been historically persecuted does not mean I'm going to stop calling out religious hypocrisy, no matter where it originates.

You sound like a Trump supporter, frothing at the mouth as he rants against Blacks/Gays/Women whoever.

Do you go around glaring at Muslim women in headscarves? Do you run up behind them and pull them off?

He's not ranting R94. He makes a perfectly good point about religion and modern life.

Why not pack the damn shawl and carry the life saving drugs with you? No sympathy here.

"Flight attendant schedules and routes are bid on by seniority in the airline industry. At American, NYC to Miami is probably not a popular route among senior flight attendants, since it most likely has a reputation for difficult passengers. So in all likelihood, these flights are staffed with the most junior crew members, who may not really care or understand about religious particulars."

Why does it have a reputation for being difficult? Because it's filled with Floridians, or New Yorkers, or Jews?

No flight attendant would ever say what they claimed she said. This is nonsense

[quote]Why does it have a reputation for being difficult? Because it's filled with Floridians, or New Yorkers, or Jews?

It just does. Talk to some flight attendants if you want to know more. LA to Paris is another route known for passengers with “attitude”.

Interesting 3 routes for most hated - and completely understandable!!

Maybe the difficult passengers are due to NY and NJ, and not necessarily Jewish.

I have seen so much entitlement with Long Islanders. Yes many are Jewish but most are also wealthy, so it’s hard to differentiate which is causing the problem.

That said, I’ve have been to crowded cities all over the world. I never have experience the amount of bickering I’ve dealt with in NYC—so many fucking people demanding to be catered to.

[Quote] Why does it have a reputation for being difficult? Because it's filled with Floridians, or New Yorkers, or Jews?

Typically the flights are filled with Jewish NYers who are flying to West Palm Beach to their winter houses/apts.

The trifecta of cuntitude.

I wonder what she would have done if it was the American flag. Isn't there a "rule" that the flag shouldn't be put on the floor? But on the otherhand (couldn't they have put it in the pocket of the seat in front of them- I fit all sorts of crap in that pocket)

Please, this didn’t happen as they explain it

I'm not antisemitic, i hate all religions equally

Religious batshittery is killing us.

[quote] I hope she loses her job at the very least.

Fat chance of that.

I agree R118

Doesn't putting the shawl in the special bag prevent it from touching the ground? Is there also a prohibition against putting the Tallit bag on the ground, not just the Tallit itself? I hate to break it to the rabbi quoted in the article, but Bibles and Korans are mass-produced and stored in boxes and shipping before landing in a congregant's hands. Stowing an article underneath the seat in front of you is hardly equivalent to "dumping it on the ground." There is no risk that people or animals might step on it, which I imagine is the only scenario that the Orthodox rabbinate had in mind when formulating this "law."

And if you're stupid enough to put medication, especially diabetes medication, in checked luggage then you probably shouldn't be flying.

Usually you would carry a flag in some sort of bag or box.

And for Catholics at least, there is no problem with putting a Bible on the floor. At my church, they had a bunch stacked on the floor in a corner of the sacristy where they would be handy to give away to visitors and new parishoners.

Just put the bag under the seat in front of you for takeoff and stop being ridiculous.

[quote]Why does it have a reputation for being difficult? Because it's filled with Floridians, or New Yorkers, or Jews?

You're getting warmer.

Stews have historically called the NYC-MIA route "The Jew Canoe". If you don't believe me, ask around.

What if my religion demand I spit upon your sacred beliefs. Don't you have to respect my deeply held belief to belittle and persecute you?

Putting religious items on the floor (whether deliberately or accidentally) is considered a desecration in Judaism. I'm a non-observant Jew and the story as described still made me cringe.

They are Jews from Argentina flying from New York to Miami. Each those variables individually suggests people who more likely be 'difficult'. Put them together and it's a cyclone of indignance. Those poor flight attendants.

Oh, god, what snowflakes.

This thread reminded me of this hysterical bit.

Next, they'll complain that the in-flight movie wasn't Yentl or Fiddler on the Roof.

R119, hilarious...and so so true

I hope they don’t get any $$$

[quote]I"m sure if the air-cunt threw a Christian bible or a Koran on the floor some of these DL'ers' reactions would be different.

Bibles can be put on a floor. There are no rules prohibiting that, Christians don't give a fuck.

Reminds me of this sketch

It just boggles my mind how in the 21st Century people still adhere to these ridiculous rules invented thousands of years ago that have no bearing on modern life. "Oh, I can't do that because the invisible man who lives in the sky will be mad at me!" Fuck all these people, get with modern times. Nothing will happen to you if your prayer book is on the floor or you eat a leg of pork or you suck another guy's dick. Just fuck off with your superstitious bullshit.

If the old man does not want to follow the rules, he does not have to get on the plane. His religious beliefs would thereby remain uncompromised. I'm sure that's not what he's seeking, though.

[quote] I am not anti-Jewish in the least, but they are often go overboard and call every action they don’t like antisemitism.

This.