Joy Behar slammed for telling gay people to just “come out” and “see what happens”

Miss OP, everything is something to get upset about.

So what, who cares?

Leave Joy alone. She had to apologize to Krazy Kristians who say they have actual conversations with their gid. No reason for the LGBTQ community to join the cray cray.

Joy is our crazy aunt who tells it like it is, and we all love her for it.

If she had said this two years ago before people got so fucking sensitive no one would have cared.

I’m not sure what’s offensive about this particular statement. Joy is a total moron but there’s nothing wrong with this.

Remember when she claimed that cop who shot ma’khia byant should be charged with murder and he should have shot his gun in the air to “warn” her ? Lmfao

The bigger issue is that The View has done next to nothing in terms of promoting LGBTQ visibility. In their twenty-five years on air, to my knowledge, there's only been two out permanent co-hosts (Rosie and Raven) who lasted all but a year respectively. And Rosie was (with the producers help) smeared as a stereotypical "Angry Dyke".

For a show that supposedly prides itself on diversity and representation, this is inexcusable.

Whoopi used to identify as a lesbian in the 70s before she went Hollywood and became “straight”.

Not offensive but just shows how she's completely detached from reality and living in a bubble. Should be no surprise to anyone who hears her speak on a regular basis.

R7 - You’re misinformed. As a viewer from the beginning, I can tell you that The View has always promoted gay pride, had gay guests on the show, had gay guest hosts, and has a significant gay staff.

You can see the logic, from New Yorker, in New York. It's kind of a simplification for certain other places, isn't it? Seems a little glib but I don't know if she needs to be hung in the public square over it.

R10 I'm talking about those who are allowed to sit at that table full time. And they've dropped the ball big time in that department.

Diversity in this day and age is not five heterosexual women sitting around a table.

They need to do better. The Talk had an out lesbian for almost a decade who was also an executive producer.

"I was watching the show"

That is a desperate cry for help

So sick of threads and articles about people being "slammed". Wow a public figure said something a couple people on twitter called them stupid or wrong. SLAMMED

Gee Joy what could go wrong?

Why is this old unfunny bitch constantly getting threads? She's a troll that likes attention at this point.

SHE'S CORRECT! 15 16 17 have a common issue.

R19 Remember that white kid in the US south a few years ago

getting grief from his white family all caught on tape?

r7, you cunt from that you do not know.

This isn't a topic I take lightly; my spouse and many friends faced crushing rejection from their families for coming out (or being outed). That said, when I see headlines like this I immediately assume that the outrage comes from Twitter malcontents who will pretend she's specifically addressing at-risk youth because it stokes their cherished outrage. Anyone else would assume her blithe remarks were aimed at those with less to lose (and we know that no one takes their gay marching orders from Behar anyway).

r23, I condole you.

[quote]And Rosie was (with the producers help) smeared as a stereotypical "Angry Dyke".

She wasn't smeared, she WAS an angry dyke.

Rosie has nobody to blame but herself.

I just read it as encouragement - not an absolute mandate. Of course there can be horrible coming out outcomes. I don't think that makes her evil for giving some encouragement.

Did Joy ever stand up for Michelle Collins when she was fired for bashing nurses right alongside her?

Miss Joy -- you want pay for my hotel bills now that my family has disowned me and thrown me out?

Stay pressed, r20/hon.

Harvey Milk said the same thing. I don't remember him being slammed.

Joy’s right. I was in the closet for years but then I admitted to my co-worker that I’m gay, and a gorgeous twink came out from a corner, bent over and presented hole.

Listen to Joy!

Part 2 of R24 =

’Atta girl.

Joy should just come out as a mentally challenged person and see what happens.

WHY HAS THE VIEW NEVER HAD A STRAIGHT CIS MALE CO-HOST??????

That segment was floating around twitter as "chaos" but most people weren't offended.

I don't think it was Joy's intention was to have a nuanced discussion but twitter has this mentality where you can't say anything unless you cover every single example that would apply to every single situation for every single person.

I love all these fucking blacks and Muslims and their “pranks”. I can’t stand those two groups. I really can’t.

"Harvey Milk said the same thing. I don't remember him being slammed. "

He's gay. Outrage culture necessitates that anyone who is NOT like you cannot give advice, judge you, or have expectations of you.

Actually I disagree. Coming out could be a very explosive thing in Some families and at the very least, upsetting others. You have no right to mess up someone else’s thanksgiving with your big news. Save it. Post it on social media or something after Christmas, by spring everyone in your family will know.

A lot of people come out gradually to different people at different stages. Usually their close friends, then closest relatives, their coworkers and then to the least accepting members of their family. Many don't make it this big event to come out at a family gathering. That just seems narcissistic.

It could cause a superspreader event.

Just sayin'.

I think in Harvey Milk's time there was a much stronger gay community that would take in those who got disowned by their families. A lot of runaway teens who go to NY or California. Then HIV happened which killed a lot of the communnity and plus the decline of any type of community in general with the rise of technology and social media. More feelings of alienation.

I will give Joy the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure her heart is in the right place...

But is anyone else sick and tired of heterosexual "allies" advising gays and lesbians? Directing us on how/when to come out? How to handle LGBT kids? On our own history as LGBT people? I know I am.

Joy cannot possibly comprehend the gay experience: the conflict of coming out, the obstacles, no matter how many LGBT friends/fans she has. No straight person can.

And maybe we shouldn't be bowing to their unsolicited advice.

I get what you're saying, R44. What muddies the waters for me is that younger generations of people who would've previously been known as allies increasingly identify as some stripe of queer themselves.

On social media, where they can be whatever they want, they seem comfortable speaking for groups some of us might feel they don't actually represent. It's weird because they love phrases like "lived experience" but don't see how it applies (or doesn't) to some of their own crusades.

Joy Behar has always been a stupid Bitch. This is another example of it.

I can just imagine young people standing at the dinner table and announcing that all they needed was some old fat rich heterosexual Jewish bitch to give them the courage to come out. It's that simple. Thank you Joy for simplifying things.

This is just the advice people were looking for. It's 2021! No possible problems could result from anyone coming out.

Gays problems are so easy. Just come out and "see what happens." Stop being a scaredy cat!

It's not like your parents could kick you out of the house (that never happens).

No parent will physically attack you or beat you for saying you are gay (that never happens).

No parent will stop paying your college tuition if you are gay (that never happens).

It's not like family members will stop allowing their minor kids to associate with you. No one will shun you or accuse you of being a pervert (that never happens.).

No one at that dinner table will inform your homophobic boss or co-workers which may result in you gettin fired (that never happens).

Just listen to Aunt Joy. Forget about coming out on your own time. When Joy said don't let anyone tell you how to live she actually meant don't let anyone tell you that EXCEPT Joy Behar.

And don't worry there couldn't possibly be any negative consequences at all if you come out.

No matter who you are or how old you are, you definitely are physically, psychologically, emotionally and financially able to handle any fall out that may result from revealing something so intimate about yourself to the world. 🙄

She's right. Rarely is there a good reason to deny yourself to live authentically.

I wouldn't recommend minors coming out if they feel they are at risk. If she's talking 30 somethings who are financially independent then yes I would agree.

How is it any of her business whether anyone "comes out" at all? She should stay out of people's personal business. People can choose how to handle their own personal relationships in life. They don't need this comedian / talk show host advising them on how to live.

[quote] some old fat rich heterosexual Jewish bitch

She's not Jewish.

Outrage and "trauma" are currency in our culture. Of course this is being amplified. Ignore. Ignore. Ignore.

I can't imagine a worse punishment than spending Thanksgiving with Joy Behar.

[quote]Wow a public figure said something a couple people on twitter called them stupid or wrong. SLAMMED

This is unfortunately how the news works these days, r14, and I don't get it either. Especially these days when no one is on Twitter anymore. In the last year most of the people I follow have slowed down or stopped posting, and three got permanently banned for no reason. So did Michael Musto and, less notably, several automated accounts I follow that never did anything except post nice images.

The media needs to get it through their thick skulls that Twitter is nothing but outrage merchants and bots.

She penetrated the end zone with that advice.

R46 Joy is Italian but the rest of your post was absolutely correct.

Being out but still private about your personal lives to certain people doesn't make you a "closet case". Particularly in the workplace, and especially in a corporate environment.

Joy isn't Jewish? She's Italian? Must be by marriage.

The View is nothing but propaganda.

r57, La sua gente è calabrese.

There are many Americans of Calabrian descent on DL.

We are the southern ones who do not oo-ie, doo-ie, maneh-got.

She's a loudmouth New Yorker. I feel whether Jewish, Italian, Irish or Puerto Rican. It's all kinda interchangeable.

She's Italian. Why can't people take 5 seconds and look this shit up?

She was smirking as she declared that as if she knew it would provoke a reaction. I love Sara's deadpan comments to her.

Sara has a gay brother.

The wonder and irony of this unimportant piece of dribble piss and flap snot is the presumption that anybody in their right mind would listen to anything Joy Behar says and take it seriously. She's a telly personality, kids. There's nothing genuine about them.

This woman is a fucking idiot and the people who watch or follow her ate sad beyond belief, but so what?

If someone is at the financial, emotional, and roof over his or her head mercy of another possibly unsympathetic person, then have a backup plan. Otherwise, why not?