**BREAKING** All 3 men charged in Arbery's death convicted of murder

Good for Georgia.

That state is really changing.

Turning blue, almost.

Wisconsin, on the other hand, is a total fucking shit hole.

Good.

We know already from the other 4 threads

Wow.

An all-white jury.

A horribly racist defense attorney making horribly racist comments.

And they still came back with a guilty verdict.

Very proud of that jury.

Don't drop the soap!

I am really starting to like the state of Georgia.

Georgia gave us Ossoff and Warnock.

And now a guilty verdict in the Arbery case.

Times, they are a changin' in that state.

KEEP GEORGIA BLUE!!!

Stacey Abrams for Governor 2022!!!

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[quote]Don't drop the soap!

They're too ugly to fuck.

[quote]An all-white jury.

I think one juror was black. I think it may have been another story if it were all white. Just glad sanity prevailed.

Thank Christ.

Honestly. I am thankful for this verdict.

This is good news, especially after that fucked up Rittenhouse trial.

Georgia has done well.

Glad for the verdict, but how did they come up with with such a lopsided jury?

Seriously--ALL white but one?

Good.

Did anyone ever think they'd see the day when a Georgia jury treated a black person fairly, and a Wisconsin jury was reminiscent of the Civil-War era?

The Midwest has become the new Jim Crow South.

R17 please elaborate how a white person who killed two white men in self defense, one of whom was a pedophile, is in anyway similar to pre civil war south.

Occasionally, our justice system gets it right. Today is one of those days.

Fucked around and found out!!!! Bwaaaaahahahahahaha!

Thief.

[quote]Seriously--ALL white but one?

Yeah. The judge eventually caught on that the defense mwas trying to stack the jury with "bubbas". But the recognition came a bit too late.

I do believe that having the one, black male juror made it difficult for the white jurors to rationalize that this was anything but murder. It's one thing to talk amongst yourselves but when you have to look that one person in the eye it becomes a game changer.

Justice served in the Rittenhouse case and in this case.

Keep fucking that chicken, R18.

No one here buys your bullshit.

This is an instance where the verdicts were 100% correct.

Regardless of what the man was doing, he was unarmed and didn't deserve to be harrassed and killed like an animal

It really does shock me how so called Constitutionalists support extrajudicial killings.

[quote] This is an instance where the verdicts were 100% correct.

Someone needs to go to your house with a rifle, shoot you, and then claim it was "self defense" because they were trying to "protect and defend" your neighbors because they thought you were a criminal.

Then see how you like it.

That's basically what you're supporting.

The video of the victim at the construction site is weird. He's not stealing anything but returns to it several times on different days. Wonder what that was about? And yes this is unrelated, as those armed men accosted him and had no right to try and detain him.

R26, put down the crack pipe, go to rehab, and then come back and re-post a coherent statement!!!!!!

awwwww... now they can't be invited to Mar-A-Lago.

I hope this is the beginning of things righting themselves.

The jury consisted of nine white WOMEN, three white men, and one black man. Credit to the WOMEN - especially that woman PROSECUTOR - for getting it done!!

The prosecutor on this case was amazing. Too bad she didn't get to prosecute Rittenhouse

This trial had an intelligent, fair judge as well, as opposed to cranky Judge Art Carney from the Rittenhouse fiasco.

White people across America will now rise up and burn Waffle Houses and Wonder Bread bakeries, won't they Kamala ?

[quote] The video of the victim at the construction site is weird. He's not stealing anything but returns to it several times on different days. Wonder what that was about? And yes this is unrelated, as those armed men accosted him and had no right to try and detain him.

Victim was studying to be an electrician, I think. Possible that he was looking at how a house gets built. It was odd to keep returning.

Yes, from what I saw (closing argument) the prosecutor did a good job at keeping things simple. It's not a legit attempt at a citizen's arrest if there's no crime being committed.

The death penalty can be considered for murder. Certainly Travis M. ought to be a candidate.

Or maybe they will plot to kidnap one of our state governors or will attack our Capital, kill Capital Police Officers, and try to hang our elected officials again, R33?

R35, I don't think the death penalty is on the table for any of these defendants.

I wonder how many Thanksgiving dinners are going to explode in violence with discussions of the Ahmaud Arbery and Rittenhouse verdicts? I hope no one dies or is injured.

[quote] It was odd to keep returning.

What is odd is how the house had more people coming to view it than the body in Stand By Me. As the video showed, Arbery wasn't its only visitor.

Cry, baby!

r39 Visiting home construction sites is a thing for some reason. When we were building our house everybody in town and even some out-of-towners kept coming to walk through and look. We finally got some security cameras, but nobody did anything wrong. They were just curious.

I hope they get life without parole. Surprised there was such a strong racial imbalance among the jury, though.

(R42) The defense was unsuccessful in kicking off most potential black jurors.

Houses under construction are interesting. Especially to someone studying to be an electrician, I assume. It's not like it was a construction site full of cash and jewelry. What was he going to steal? Lumber? That's why there was never a shred of legitimacy to these assholes thinking he "stole" something. Did they think he put a 2x4 in his pocket and jogged away? It never made sense.

I think life in prison without the possibility of parole is harsher than the death penalty. They’ll have to fight to survive in a shithole every day for the rest of their lives for what they did. This verdict gives me hope.

I’ve often walked through open housing construction sites. It’s interesting to see how architects and builders think about raw space, gather ideas and imagine how I would change things were I the owner.

Never in a million years did it occur to me that someone would hunt me down and shoot me twice through the chest for looking.

[quote] On the 911 call the jury reviewed, Greg McMichael tells an operator: “I’m out here in Satilla Shores. There's a Black male running down the street.”

R46, you're probably not black. According to OP's quote, this was the 911 call. This guy is clutching his pearls b/c there's a black man running down the street.

Such good news!! 👏👏👏👏👏

[quote]The man who released the video tape actually thought people would see it and agree with him that Ahmaud Arbery was killed justifiably because he didn’t “freeze” when ambushed by white armed men.

[quote] Never in a million years did it occur to me that someone would hunt me down and shoot me twice through the chest for looking

I guess that's what it feels like to be black in America.

[quote] The judge eventually caught on that the defense mwas trying to stack the jury with "bubbas". But the recognition came a bit too late.

There are very strict rules for picking juries to avoid discrimination in jury selection. If the judge finds an issue and that the Supreme Court guidelines have been violated then he can scrap jury selection and start over. It is never too late until the jury is sworn.

There was never a question that they were guilty only if a jury would convict them. Unlike some other cases there was absolutely no justification for this, and it was pretty much universally condemned once the family managed to get the state authorities to look into it, since the local authorities were trying to cover it up.

Rittenhouse was a much more complicated set of issues and circumstances. This was a straight up lynching. Remember, a grand jury of the citizens of that county indicted the men and then a regular jury, from that county, convicted them. A county that Donald Trump carried in 2016 and 2020 with more than 60% of the vote. People need to figure out it is 2021 not 1921, things have changed rather we admit it or not.

[quote]The video of the victim at the construction site is weird. He's not stealing anything but returns to it several times on different days.

One of the articles said he was studying to be an electrician like his uncles. He probably had an interest in looking at how construction was progressing as a future tradesman.

[quote]There are very strict rules for picking juries to avoid discrimination in jury selection. If the judge finds an issue and that the Supreme Court guidelines have been violated then he can scrap jury selection and start over. It is never too late until the jury is sworn.

Clearly you haven't kept up with what was happening with the trial, r51.

During jury selection it is primarily the responsibility of the legal teams from either side to insure that juries are not stacked in a way that would show prejudice in either direction. Either side can just say no to any prospective juror.

R55, each side has a limited number of peremptory challenges.

Let's not forget one big thing. Those three scumbags still have the Federal trial coming up. They'll surely be found guilty in that one as well. The question is, which sentence will take priority. Hopefully they get an even stronger sentence in their Federal trial so that no parole is possible.

[quote] [R39] Visiting home construction sites is a thing for some reason. When we were building our house everybody in town and even some out-of-towners kept coming to walk through and look. We finally got some security cameras, but nobody did anything wrong. They were just curious.

ALL THE TIME! The whole thing was enraging and disgusting. However, it was that one aspect that made me think these men should be executed. What did Ahmad steal from a CONSTRUCTION site that he cold carry on his body and jog?!! People are drawn to construction sites and look inside all the time.

My sister is having a house built. Anytime someone in the family drives by to check progress, there is always a random person walking around and checking things out. My dad even brings his friends by to see it. Construction site touring really is a thing.

When I was a kid, I lived in a new neighborhood in the middle of development. Me and my ever-expanding group of friends never got bored of touring the sites of every house. It never got old and always remained interesting.

R57 They face mandatory life sentences for their state convictions. The Federal civil rights charges also carry life imprisonment. I would much prefer that they spend their sentences in GA state prisons rather than Federal prison, because state prisons tend to be rougher.

From my understanding their state convictions will take precedence because they are for murder and the state convicted them first. One thing a about the Federal charges is that if they convicted in Federal court it acts as a backup. So that if they successfully appeal their state convictions or somehow got parole at some point, they wouldn't go free but would just be transferred to Federal custody to serve their sentence from that separate conviction.

I want all 3 to die in prison.

We KNOW, dear.

Imagine waking up in your own bed one morning and ending up in a jail cell by that afternoon - the day before Thanksgiving, no less!! Daddy McMichael is 65; Sonny is 35 - he has a 3 year old son; and that poor sap "Roddy" is 52. They are going to do some HARD time.

This case was presented to two district attorneys, first a George Barnhill, who recused himself, but not before sending a letter to the police stating that there was no probable cause to arrest the (eventual) defendants. It then went to a Jackie Johnson - she's the one who is under indictment for "violating her oath" - she told two cops on the day of the shooting not to arrest Sonny, and Daddy used to work in her office as an "investigator." She has since been voted out of office and should obviously be convicted and disbarred.

As a former police officer and investigator, Daddy's going to have a tough time inside - and of course, Sonny did the actual shooting, so there's that. Welcome to OZ, boys!

Good article below -

Most Americans recognize that the verdicts in both this case and the Rittenhouse case were correct. Despite what the corporate news media will tell you.

Yes, there are unlimited strikes / "for cause." E.g., a prospective juror knows the defendant, personally, and can't be impartial about the case. The judge would have the final say on whether you can strike "for cause."

There are limited peremptory strikes (I think the # depends on your state). Meaning: limited amounts of prospective jurors you can "excuse" for no stated reason at all.

A criminal defendant is constitutionally entitled to a jury of his or her "peers." So, a judge would have to keep that in mind as well.

Possibly, the prosecutor had a good feeling about the final set of jurors and didn't complain about only having one black juror. It did work out for her (the prosecutor).

In a few years time these men won't even be thought about. What they should do is report to the public every single that happens to them in jail and then maybe people will think twice about killing or harming someone just because they don't like the color of someone's skin.

someone pointed out that the killer became that way because his father taught him to be like that and now he is paying the highest price because his dad is an idiot. I do feel bad for the wife/mother as she has now lost both of them and her life is ruined too. I feel bad for Arbery's mother but she is strong and I think this has given her quite a bit of peace and even though she lost her son she will have gotten the best of it which she deserves.

Isn't it strange how when one person does something they never take a minute to see the circle of people their act is going to harm.

I really hope this a turning point and like Floyd's death , Arbery's death will not have been in vain. .

[quote] This case was presented to two district attorneys, first a George Barnhill, who recused himself, but not before sending a letter to the police stating that there was no probable cause to arrest the (eventual) defendants. It then went to a Jackie Johnson - she's the one who is under indictment for "violating her oath" - she told two cops on the day of the shooting not to arrest Sonny, and Daddy used to work in her office as an "investigator." She has since been voted out of office and should obviously be convicted and disbarred.

That is one reason this case isn't as politically partisan as some want to make it appear. Yes, Jackie Johnson was a Republican DA, in a very red district. But, the voters threw her ass out for an independent. In Glynn County, which is where this all occurred Johnson only received 13,518 votes, in the same election the county gave 25,616 votes to Donald Trump, in fact she got fewer votes than Biden in the county. (He received 15,879) Compare that to her previous election in 2016, when she ran unopposed and earned 25, 567 votes.

She was indicted thanks to the GOP Attorney General of GA. These men were only brought to justice once the state was made aware of what was going on, and the Attorney General and GBI were sent to investigate and seek justice.

Also, even among those in the area one might consider racist, they don't support this because they don't want to be known for this. It is like if you go back and read newspapers and things across the South during Jim Crow, even if they supported segregation and white supremacy many people didn't like the KKK because they rightly came to the conclusion they made everyone in the area look stupid and caused damage to everyone.

HA!

Damn she's ugly. And she looks like a first class bitch.

Fat lidded bitch.

It's what she deserves.