Prediction - Alec Baldwin will go bankrupt due to lawsuits stemming from Rust.

Agree OP.

There’s no coming back from this, maybe if he was younger. But, he’s already 63 and not much runway for a comeback.

Plus he’s married to a bat-shit crazy wife and has way too many kids. She’ll probably put a pillow over his face when he’s zonked out to try and save his fortune.

It has been interesting how quiet most clubs have been. Apparently he is widely disliked and viewed as a pompous ass. Defending Weinstein and Woody Allen didn't help.

I think his wife is insane - she seems to want more. more, more of everything. More children, more exotic cats, more photo ops. They are both gross and deserve each other. It will be interesting to see if Hutchin's husband names Baldwin in his upcoming lawsuit. If so - he is toast.

It's a bit late to rethink those six kids with Spanish names.

R2. Wife Hillary has exotic cats?

Maybe not, OP. His insurance will probably cover any lawsuits.

For R4...

She really is batshit.

She says her kids named the new cat "Cayetana Magdalena Baldwin".

And shelters are full of kittens/cats yet this creature has to get a Bengal cat from a cat mill. See my special cat!! I am soooo special too!

Cant wait to see them moving in with her parents, which of course they will have to do after they go bankrupt.

There is a limit on insurance,my money is he is going down. Just watch him put his assets in someone elses name. He will try to worm his pompous ass out of it.

R8 and if he buys a Florida estate. Maybe he can get a place by Mar-a-Largo

If you read the filing by Gloria Allred on behalf of the script supervisor, Baldwin was supposed to draw the gun from his holster in the scene but not fire it, OP. There was supposed to be a gun in one of the shots after lunch. The Daily Mail didn't read the filing either and is running the same headlines about no gun meant to be on set. That's wrong. Because the shot did not require the gun being fired, the gun should have been empty.

If the gun was meant to be fired in the scene, many crew members who were in the church would have be off set and watching on monitors outside the church, per union safety protocols. The necessary crew would have been offered earplugs. None of this happened. The script supervisor knows exactly what is to be filmed in each scene. She sounds very credible. All producers, including executive, line, and unit are being sued, along with the armorer, assistant armourer, prop master, AD, and Baldwin.

"If you read the filing by Gloria Allred on behalf of the script supervisor, Baldwin was supposed to draw the gun from his holster in the scene but not fire it, OP."

Yes, because Gloria Allred would never represent a liar *rolls eyes*

Some DLers would normally accuse these people of being money grubbers but since they don't like Baldwin they'll pretend these are legit lawsuits

Based on above, yes - Baldwin is toast. Maybe Hilaria can do OnlyFans.

Then what do you think happened R11? *rolls eyes*

Script supervisors know what the shots of the day are. We'll see if the AD, the director, or anyone else related to Rust will counter her claim that the scene required the gun to be draw but not discharged. I'm sure the script and list of the shots for the day the shooting occurred are with law enforcement and will be released at some point.

I like Alec Baldwin. But I agree with Clooney this was negligent set.

I think Alec and his wife are as annoying AF, but I don't see how he can be blamed for this. How the hell did real bullets get into a prop gun? It doesn't sound like he put them there.

This sounds like one of those things where something horrible occurred, but you can't really put the blame on a single person. Wouldn't the film's production company have insurance for something like this?

The lawsuits don't solely name Baldwin. They name all of the producers, the AD, the armorer, her assistant, the prop master, the line producer, and the unit production manager. R14

Que?

Baldwin didn't put bullets in that gun. AD called safe and the armourer did not do the job. Baldwin had a complete expectation the gun was a prop.

Just idly checked Alec’s Twitter. It’s locked down.

As a once upon a time film/tv stand in and double I saw a lot of larking around on set between crew and actors. It was rarely discouraged as it helped lighten the mood during long, gruelling days. This felt from first report like a Russian roulette style ‘make this the last take and we move on now or I’ll shoot ya!’ type lark that went horribly wrong.

R18 He's ranting about politics again, sooooo everything is back to normal and we all can just forget that he shot & killed someone.

The bottom line is: you never point a gun at anyone, even if there had of been blanks in it it still would have injured someone. And baldwin should have known that . REMEMBER THECROW.

R17. You don't seem to understand how lawsuits work. There are levels of culpability and negligence. As the person who pointed and fired the gun he had a responsibility to confirm it was not loaded, even after being told it's not. And the fact that the gun wasn't even supposed to be fired at all ups Baldwin's negligence. As the one of the Producers he was responsible for conditions on the set and this is where he's extremely vulnerable.

Alec Baldwin didn't bring live ammunition to that set. He was assured that the gun wouldn't hurt anyone. We're not talking about Kyle Rittenhouse here.

Hopefully they had insurance for the production. Low budget doesn't mean insane. All have insurance.

I used to like Alec Baldwin.

He’s a big bitch, but he’s funny. Funny goes a long way.

The “thoughtless little pig” fiasco soured me on him.

But marrying a do-nothing, legit insane, brood sow killed it for me. I have no time for these millennial skanks who just want to pump out babies.

Any man who can be attracted to that level of cray and trashiness is obviously a moron.

I have no time for morons.

Agree r25. Feel the same way about him

Why would you want to have kids with a woman who is unaccomplished, stupid, clinically insane, devoid of positive personality traits, and who has coarse, peasant features? She really is the bottom of the barrel. Yet Alec chose to have kids with her.

Just for fun, throwing in some classic GOP whadaboutism. I can hardly wait to see GOP trolls when the same/similar thing happens to your boy James Woods.

Agree with you r28, but James Woods is too ugly and pathetic for anyone to care about.

If he is like most producers he has millions of dollars worth of insurance. And if he is like most actors, he has a financial advisor who put most of his money into a trust which cant be touched.

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Alec Baldwin was amazing on 30 Rock but everyone knows he is an arrogant hothead.

When I read the news I immediately called out to my partner, "Alec Baldwin finally killed someone" and calmly finished my coffee.

Productions have insurance.

r24 On a low budget movie with financing coming in from several sources and corners being cut all over the place, I wouldn't assume the insurance was purchased or active. Probably was. Not definitely.

The wildest part of this is all the producers being sued. Most have nothing to do with the production even if they happened to be near the set. There's all sorts of people contractually tied in as producers due to financing and the script's path to the financing. Many were probably paid close to nothing (under $50k). These lawsuits, even if unsuccessful, might change how producers insure themselves.

[quote] When I read the news I immediately called out to my partner, "Alec Baldwin finally killed someone" and calmly finished my coffee.

“Oh, that Alec Baldwin went and shot somebody. Canapé?”

One of many things I don't understand about this whole thing: I read somewhere in early reports that the gun discharged while Baldwin was withdrawing it from the holster, which presumably meant without him pulling the trigger. Is that true, or is it just misinformation?

If that story IS true, then how was the gun aimed or pointed at anyone with enough accuracy to cause their death? Can anyone shed light on this particular detail of the story?

r36 basic physics suggests the gun discharged when he pointed it at the camera. so it didn't discharge when he pulled it from his holster.

He might have pulled it from the holster, raised his arm, pointed to the camera and pulled trigger in a fluid motion. but he still pulled trigger after he pointed it at the camera.

OP. From your post to God’s ear.

LOL, he didn't do anything wrong, so the lawsuits will fail. The dl freeper brigade will do anything to attack this man

R25 nailed it. He is completely pathetic now. I'm the OP now and as liberal/leftist as they come but Baldwin in no way represents me.

I actually feel for the guy. Did you see his wife’s latest Instagram?

This is why reputation matters. Whether you’re a pothead, a hothead, a drama queen, what have you… When the shit hits the fan, that’s how people will view and judge you. “He was an accident waiting to happen, always drink or high.“ Etc

Alec has been sober for decades.

R39 must everything be about politics? JHC.

As numerous people have pointed out, even if we all agree (and I'm sure we don't) that Baldwin did nothing wrong as far as the actual shooting, he may eventually be judged at least partially responsible for what happened as one of the film's producers.

As I understand it this type of old gun needs to be cocked first.

AGREE...amazing on 30 Rock.

Alec made 30 Rock . The chemistry between him and Tina Fey was off the hook.

Has Tina commented? She’s not really the commenting type, is she.

To me his wife seems incredibly bored? I mean she is a relatively young woman saddled with kids but has multiple nannies + staff + no job so WHAT does she do? Post on Instagram ten times a day. At least Clooney married a woman of substance. Baldwin just married a bimbo and a crazy one at that.

Wasn't Hilarious a yoga instructor? Is she still involved with that on any level?

Honey, I'm off to New Mexico to film my vanity project!

Hokay senior! Buen Suelo!

Thanks toots, I'll need it! We hired a kid with no experience as the armorer so I hope no one gets shot LOL.

OOh, pero es muy cheapo, es la verdad?

You got that right conchita. The assistant Director is a bargain too since he got fired from his last job when someone got shot LOL.

Muy bueno! So hokay compremos un otro gato ahora!

You buy all the pussies you want dollface!

Oooh. tu es un diablo!! , Como se dice cucumber?

R19, they were not filming when the shooting occurred.

R53, what does it matter whether or not they were filming when the shooting occurred?

In his post he referred to takes, it was just a rehearsal.

If there had been filming the incident would have been captured, reportedly it was not.

So sad. And they continue to flaunt their alive family and wealth all over social media, it is utterly abhorrent when a woman is DEAD.

He’ll be fine in a few months. SNL will produce a sycophantic tribute to him co-starring the corpse of Paul Simon with a lot of boohooing about what a victim he is for having had endured that. Then he’ll start getting cast again because he’s Funny Trump and that apparently overrides decades of belligerent and unprofessional behavior.

No, he's toast. The woke SNL audience who loves Alec's Trump impersonation isn't ever going to get over his needlessly shooting and killing a young woman and leaving her child without a mother. No one will ever be able to laugh at Alec's comedy again. What's he's done is too heavy and impossible to forget. It's the end of Alec's career and the end of the laughter.

The Monstrous Orange Turd could survive 6 bankruptcies, so will Alec Baldwin.

His PR can try to deflect to Trump but it will not work. He killed a woman and left her young son without a mom. Now he and his family are flaunting their wealth and victimhood on social media. It is repugnant.

I feel quite sorry for Baldwin, I don't really think he wanted to kill anyone. His Instagram last I checked had the headline, "keep your fucking opinions to yourself" which is rather priceless coming from him. He seems to be in the land of Denial.

Like Spacey, I almost always enjoy Baldwin as an actor, but he appears to be a piece of shit.

in terms of bankruptcy - was there insurance for anything like this? I would think he would try to shift blame to the props person who was in control of the firearms, but since it's his production, he or she is essentially his employee, I think.

R59 can deflect to eat Trump's shit and die in a grease fire with her cuntwhore mom.

I guess that 30 Rock spin off doesn’t sound like such a bad offer anymore, huh Alex?

When my aunt died a few years ago, I remember taking a break from posting anything on Facebook.

I didn’t want my cousin (with whom I’m Facebook friends) to see me posting jokes or family stuff that might make her sad or think I was being insensitive.

So I can’t imagine what Alec is thinking with all this insane social media shit.

It was a tragic accident but continuing to post on social media is nuts. Don't the Baldwin's have a PR person to talk them out of this?

Narcs don't like to feel that rules or limitations apply to them, R65.

The jerk was kicked off a plane for not turning off his phone, he's not going to listen to any advice from PR people is my guess. If you didn't think he was at all at fault when he killed someone, the two of them posting on social media like the tragedy is behind them must surely alienate any person with sense.

They are disgusting trash, R67 and as they flaunt their wealth, they are surely tempting karma.

I know people who've worked with Alec. They all say he's super fun to work with, until something pisses him off. And then he's an intolerable asshole.

Idiot punks who were more concerned with showing off on Instagram than making good movies on safe sets.

[quote]In February, Kevin Bacon and Machine Gun Kelly shot One Way, another project crediting Smith, Cheney, Salveson and Winterstern. Buzzfeed has reported that there are still unpaid wages and bills on the project. The first assistant director was Dave Halls, who had the same position on Rust and has admitted handing the pistol to Baldwin without checking it properly. Variety reported that a crewmember on One Way said he had warned Smith and Cheney, among others, that Halls was “a liability.”

[quote]Even as crews on their movies faced difficult and even dangerous conditions, Smith and Cheney filled their social media with photos of a high-end lifestyle involving travel by private jet to shooting locations for their various projects. With Rust in preproduction, Smith showed off his suite at the Four Seasons Rancho Encantado in Santa Fe, New Mexico. The crew would later lament their poor accommodations after long days on the set.

I still had some questions about the actual shooting and I found this on Wikipedia:

[quote]While the trio behind the monitor were repositioning the camera to remove a shadow, Baldwin began explaining to the crew how he planned to draw the firearm. He said, "So, I guess I'm gonna take this out, pull it, and go, 'Bang!'" When he removed it from the holster, Baldwin fired the gun a single time and the projectile flew towards the three behind the monitor, striking Hutchins in the chest and Souza in the shoulder.

Assuming this is accurate, can someone please explain to me how a single "projectile" could hit one person in the chest and ALSO hit another person in the shoulder? I don't see how it could ricochet off one person's body and hit another. And if the "projectile" passed through one person's body, would it have enough force left to injure another?

I realize none of this ultimately matters, because one person is dead and another was injured regardless, but I would really like to understand exactly what happened.

R71 There was a second shooter on the grassy knoll?

R71 the bullet went through her body and hit the person by her, and the poster was correct you have to pull the hammer back and then the trigger, there is NO WAY the gun just went off !!!

He was crouched or seated behind her so it went through her and hit the AD in the shoulder.

"I've never been given a hot gun before in my life." We all know he pulled the trigger, he shouldn't have, and he's fucked. And he's just trying to salvage his reputation because he's a, how do you say? Ah, sociopath.

[quote]The bullet went through her body and hit the person by her.

[quote]He was crouched or seated behind her so it went through her and hit the AD in the shoulder.

I believe some people say that something similar happened in the JFK assassination, but can something like that really, actually happen? I don't understand the physics of how a bullet (or "projectile") that has hit someone could pass through their body and retain enough force to injure someone else. When a person is shot, isn't it always or almost always the case that the bullets lodge in their bodies, rather than passing through them?

R76 never heard the term "exit wound"?

R77, yes, I guess I did. So, when a person is shot, many times the bullets lodge in their bodies, but other times they pass through with enough force that they can injure someone else? I don't quite understand why that would be, but maybe it depends on how close the shooter is, what kind of gun it is, etc.

There are many detailed accounts re: this shooting online if you want more detail on the bullet, trajectory, etc.

[quote]There are many detailed accounts re: this shooting online if you want more detail on the bullet, trajectory, etc.

Thanks, but so much has been written about the shooting, it may be hard for me to find any detailed explanation of it.

With all due respect you come off like a tiresome simpleton.

Alec has called people faggets and coons. He's a nasty piece of work. I knew him when I worked with the Creative Coalition and he was a miserable human being who desperately wanted a career in politics. He will be remembered for shooting a woman who died and for marrying a fake Spaniard.

If you have those choice words for R90, R91, I can only imagine what you think of Hilary from Boston.

I predict Alec will die of cirrhosis or of a massive heart attack.

[quote] you never point a gun at anyone, even if there had of been blanks in it

A cold gun, as it was announced to be, has no bullets, no blanks. He was rehearsing with a gun he was told was safe. I don't see how Baldwin can be held responsible, except ultimately as producer. How does Allred's client have standing other than just being someone else who was on set?

He will go bankrupt after he hides all his assets.

[quote]With all due respect you come off like a tiresome simpleton.

With all due disrespect, if I'm such a simpleton and you're so brilliant, then please explain to me the parts of the shooting story that don't seem to make sense -- including, but not limited, to exactly how one bullet or "projectile" killed one person and injured another.

R87, first, that poster is hilarious — you did sound “touched”.

If you’ve never heard of bullets passing through bodies, then we can’t help you. I do *not* know enough to explain the phenomenon to you, I never took physics. It is likely a combination of: type of gun, type of ammo, where the bullet first strikes (meaning if it passes through soft tissue vs. bouncing/deflecting off bone). Guns can do this. Bullets can do this. And yes, the JFK killing is a good example. Haven’t you ever heard of cops pulling bullets out of walls at shooting scenes? If a bullet can pass through a body and lodge into a wall, then it is also logical that it could move through two humans. I find it hard to believe you’ve never ever heard of cops taking bullets out of a wall — it’s the same thing.

We are trying to help you with our ever-bitchy, ever-cunty tough love.

E = mc squared pretty much explains how the bullet exited the first victim and entered the second victim.

Will this affect Justin Bieber’s marriage?

It was removed from the guy's shoulder, it only "passed through" the deceased.

And he wasn't seriously injured. At the hospital he was examined, his wound was dressed and he was sent home.

Thanks all for clarifying. I still don't completely understand how a bullet can pass through someone's body, whether it kills them or not, and still have enough force after doing so to injure someone else or, for that matter, to lodge in a wall somewhere. But obviously it happens, so it doesn't matter if I don't understand it.

R93 Tip your care worker this Christmas. Getting you through a day must be difficult.

I hope he does. He’s a psycho, himself, (or a true fool) to let that woman get pregnant by him more than once or twice.

R94, your response to my polite post at R93 was unnecessary. With all that anger, bitterness, and nasty sarcasm in you, I can only imagine how you're going to bring down the room wherever you spend your holidays with. Assuming you don't spend them alone, which I shouldn't.

Alec Baldwin & Alice Sebold should hitch up together. A match made in hell.

R87 i am not the poster you are talking about but you dont apparently understand velosity, the bullet is coming out of that gun with enough force it can eadily go thru bodies plural that isbif if doesnt hit a bone and riccochet of it into other parts of the body. Bullets can easily go thru walls depending what they are made of.

Thanks, R98. This has already been explained to me, and I do now understand and accept it, though I'm still surprised that one bullet can "go through bodies plural." Yes, I know this has been said to be possible at least since the JFK assassination, but of course, there is still so much controversy about what actually happened there.

The daily mail says he's being sued.

Drama frauen always arrive at ridiculous conclusions. Baldwin will be fine Insurance will pick up most of the tab here. Alec sends his love.

If he’s smart he has big trust funds for each of those kids.

Alec, you in danger, girl

He can now be the stay-at-home while Hilaria gets a job. I understand Whole Foods is hiring.

Customer: Excuse me ma’am, how much are those cucumbers?

Hilaria: Que? You mean pepinos?

Ay yi yi!

But I still have all those frozen Baldwinito embryos!