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One dead , one seriously injured after blank gun mishap on Alec Baldwin’s current movie shoot

Production is halted till further notice .

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by Anonymousreply 606October 22, 2021 10:37 PM

Is he filming the Alex Murdaugh story?

by Anonymousreply 1October 22, 2021 1:48 AM

Someone actually still pays for him to be in their movies? Does he costar with Nicholas Cage and Bruce Willis?

by Anonymousreply 2October 22, 2021 1:49 AM

Has Hilaria posted professional photographs of herself balled up and crying in only her lace bra and "no makeup" yet?

by Anonymousreply 3October 22, 2021 1:50 AM

That fat slob probably had mayonaise on his fingers and was playing with the guns.

by Anonymousreply 4October 22, 2021 1:54 AM

isn't this the same thing that happened to Brandon Lee all those years ago? You'd think studios would have stopped making these tragic "mishaps"

by Anonymousreply 5October 22, 2021 1:54 AM

Ay, dios mio! How you say in Inglés... Ees so tragil? So tragical? I have not the word for thees so bad thing. So much sorry I am!!

by Anonymousreply 6October 22, 2021 1:55 AM

I’ve had him some years ago. I was a producer at the time. Let’s just say that I wasn’t impressed. He kept yelling “Faggot! Faggot!” When he came. Seems to be a preoccupation with him. Total turn-off. Anyway, fa, er, gay gentlemen, I’ve got a man waiting. No life support! It’s been a good day.

by Anonymousreply 7October 22, 2021 1:55 AM

This may cancel movie

by Anonymousreply 8October 22, 2021 1:57 AM

Did they not have stunt people and fire arms specialists on set?

by Anonymousreply 9October 22, 2021 2:03 AM

Is it the Jon Erik Hexum story?

by Anonymousreply 10October 22, 2021 2:08 AM

Alec is the producer 😬

by Anonymousreply 11October 22, 2021 2:10 AM

He'll somehow blame this on Ireland.

by Anonymousreply 12October 22, 2021 2:17 AM

R5 is hilarious ! Thanks guys for me making me laugh!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 13October 22, 2021 2:20 AM

I meant r4 is hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 14October 22, 2021 2:21 AM

Enough to wallow in thees tragil. Enough. Ees sad, okay, but while I am sponge attention I must, how you say....tacking? I must tacking to you on Infanta Lost holiday. Ees seriousful thing! I raise aware with so much Baldwinitos, nice bra full of titi, and many thick hair.

Please, just give felicidades at me, yes? #NoMakeup

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by Anonymousreply 15October 22, 2021 2:22 AM

How you say.... million dollar lawsuit?

by Anonymousreply 16October 22, 2021 2:25 AM

I am baffled as to how this even happens. Wouldn't they first make sure that the gun was either fake or unloaded?

by Anonymousreply 17October 22, 2021 2:25 AM

R17, I think I remember from the Jon Erik Hexum story that even blanks can be dangerous.

by Anonymousreply 18October 22, 2021 2:43 AM

And r4 gave me one of those belly laughs that takes you by surprise. Thanks, friend.

by Anonymousreply 19October 22, 2021 2:44 AM

How do TWO people get hurt in a prop gun accident? Was it a real bullet?

by Anonymousreply 20October 22, 2021 2:44 AM

Great question

by Anonymousreply 21October 22, 2021 2:45 AM

Thank heavens DL treasure Frances Fisher wasn't hurt! She and hunky Travis Fimmel are costarring in the film.

by Anonymousreply 22October 22, 2021 2:49 AM

¡Ay Dios mío!

by Anonymousreply 23October 22, 2021 2:55 AM

Ironic shot . This is from earlier today .

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by Anonymousreply 24October 22, 2021 2:55 AM

Shit. This same thing happened with The Crow and Brandon Lee.

by Anonymousreply 25October 22, 2021 2:56 AM

Como dices, comí pepinos para el almuerzo.

by Anonymousreply 26October 22, 2021 2:57 AM

He is probably THRILLED to be on location. He’s crying because he might have to go home to the squalling brats and Doña Hilaria.

by Anonymousreply 27October 22, 2021 3:00 AM

It was the director of photography who was killed and Alec was on scene as it was a rehearsal

by Anonymousreply 28October 22, 2021 3:00 AM

[quote] DL treasure Frances Fisher

Wait - this is a thing?

by Anonymousreply 29October 22, 2021 3:00 AM

There's an early talkie whodunnit where a a prop gun is deliberately loaded with real ammo to ensure a much-loathed leading man is killed.

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by Anonymousreply 30October 22, 2021 3:05 AM

Holy shit, who was the “principal castmember”?

Deadline previously heard from sources that a principal castmember cocked a gun during a rehearsal, unaware that there were live rounds in it, hitting two people, a man and a woman.

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by Anonymousreply 31October 22, 2021 3:07 AM

Alec has not updated his Instagram. Unusual for him

by Anonymousreply 32October 22, 2021 3:12 AM

[quote]Holy shit, who was the “principal castmember”?

Betty White.

by Anonymousreply 33October 22, 2021 3:15 AM


by Anonymousreply 34October 22, 2021 3:17 AM

I read Alec's IG username as "alecbaldwinista" and thought, " Good fuck, he's given in to the faux Spanish facade as well!"

by Anonymousreply 35October 22, 2021 3:19 AM

Alec fired the shot !! I hope this is not true . Horrible

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by Anonymousreply 36October 22, 2021 3:22 AM

The departed .

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by Anonymousreply 37October 22, 2021 3:23 AM

Did he call her a rude, thoughtless pig before firing?

by Anonymousreply 38October 22, 2021 3:25 AM

[quote]Baldwin fired the gun, according to the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s office. The film’s director, Joel Souza, was also hit, and was receiving emergency care at a hospital in Santa Fe.

It was an accident but how do you live with yourself after that?

by Anonymousreply 39October 22, 2021 3:27 AM

He’s the producer. He’s responsible

by Anonymousreply 40October 22, 2021 3:28 AM

Yikes. RIP Alec’s career

Hope he has a huge nest egg/retirement for that huge family he had to have at 63 yrs old

by Anonymousreply 41October 22, 2021 3:28 AM

Between this and all the drama with his wife and their brood I fear a heart attack is next for Alec.

by Anonymousreply 42October 22, 2021 3:28 AM

I feel for him truly . This is a nightmare

by Anonymousreply 43October 22, 2021 3:29 AM

Wow. How could there be a loaded gun on set? Geez.

by Anonymousreply 44October 22, 2021 3:31 AM

Can't they just use CGI at this point?

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by Anonymousreply 45October 22, 2021 3:31 AM

But how are the babies, are the babies alright?

by Anonymousreply 46October 22, 2021 3:33 AM

Shot the Director too!! Poor Alec 😩

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by Anonymousreply 47October 22, 2021 3:36 AM

Director shot too !

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by Anonymousreply 48October 22, 2021 3:37 AM

It's General Franco's troops coming for me!

by Anonymousreply 49October 22, 2021 3:37 AM

I’m not a huge fan of his, but I feel so bad for him. This is like Brandon Lee all over again.

by Anonymousreply 50October 22, 2021 3:39 AM

Was Cher on set?

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by Anonymousreply 51October 22, 2021 3:41 AM

Whaaat?! This is kind of shocking.

by Anonymousreply 52October 22, 2021 3:42 AM

The victim was a 41 year old woman. I saw her name online but won't post it because it's not officially confirmed. Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 53October 22, 2021 3:42 AM

Here's the synopsis of the film

Rust: A 13 year-old boy, left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880's Kansas, goes on the run with his long estranged grandfather after he's sentenced to hang for the accidental killing of a local rancher.

Stars - Travis Fimmel, Jensen Ackles, Frances Fisher

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by Anonymousreply 54October 22, 2021 3:44 AM

RIP Alex Baldwin career and maybe his freedom. Depends what happened.

by Anonymousreply 55October 22, 2021 3:44 AM

There are real bullets in prop guns???

by Anonymousreply 56October 22, 2021 3:44 AM

SNL should be a weird set to be on tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 57October 22, 2021 3:44 AM

I don’t see him serving time or even being charged for firing the gun, r55. But as producer he is open to liability.

by Anonymousreply 58October 22, 2021 3:51 AM

That’s what I wanna know r56.

There has to be someone on DL that works on movie sets. I can’t even imagine why a prop gun would have real bullets

by Anonymousreply 59October 22, 2021 3:51 AM

Covfefe don't play!

by Anonymousreply 60October 22, 2021 3:51 AM


by Anonymousreply 61October 22, 2021 3:51 AM

Damn even my cunty self can't snark on him. How fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 62October 22, 2021 3:52 AM

ALEC BALDWIN IS A MURDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 63October 22, 2021 3:52 AM

Link to the DL paper of record.

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by Anonymousreply 64October 22, 2021 3:52 AM

Who will play me now?

by Anonymousreply 65October 22, 2021 3:53 AM

[quote] Alec Baldwin Fired Prop Gun That Killed Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins

He accidentally thought she was Hilaria.

by Anonymousreply 66October 22, 2021 3:54 AM

I bet Hilarious is quivering in her Spanish leather boots about the effect that this might have on her broods trust fund.

by Anonymousreply 67October 22, 2021 3:55 AM

And they thought Bette Davis was hard on directors.

by Anonymousreply 68October 22, 2021 3:57 AM

Wait. Alec Baldwin still stars in movies?

by Anonymousreply 69October 22, 2021 3:57 AM

Apparently Alec has been back on the sauce in recent months. I don't think he'll survive this... he'll commit suicide or drink himself to death

by Anonymousreply 70October 22, 2021 3:58 AM

Is it possible he was having one of his legendary rage fits?

by Anonymousreply 71October 22, 2021 3:59 AM


by Anonymousreply 72October 22, 2021 3:59 AM

[quote]Stars - Travis Fimmel, Jensen Ackles, Frances Fisher

Oh god, he's incredibly lucky it wasn't Jensen Ackles that he killed. The fraus would have gone Suddenly, Last Summer on him.

by Anonymousreply 73October 22, 2021 4:00 AM

How can Matthew Broderick live with himself when he was responsible for two deaths in Ireland? Wasn’t it a woman and her young daughter?

by Anonymousreply 74October 22, 2021 4:00 AM

How does Caitlyn Jenner live with herself? 🚗

by Anonymousreply 75October 22, 2021 4:01 AM

R74 This is Alex Baldwin's tragic accident thread not Matthew's.

by Anonymousreply 76October 22, 2021 4:02 AM

How can Susan Dey live with herself, not commenting yet?

by Anonymousreply 77October 22, 2021 4:02 AM

Of course they can all live with these horrible things they did, because every last one of them is a narcissistic sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 78October 22, 2021 4:02 AM

Did anyone check to see if his fellow homophobe Jensen Ackles is okay?

by Anonymousreply 79October 22, 2021 4:05 AM

R74 Have you seen what Matthew Broderick looks like? Does he look happy to you?

by Anonymousreply 80October 22, 2021 4:05 AM

I was molested.

by Anonymousreply 81October 22, 2021 4:05 AM

How does he accidentally shoot two people? Was the director standing directly behind the cinematographer? How does he fire a second time?

by Anonymousreply 82October 22, 2021 4:05 AM

Many years ago, Baldwin was using the pay phone next to me ( so you can tell it was at least 20 years ago.) He was screaming like a lunatic at the person on the other end. He also smashed the phone multiple times when he was done. It’s sad that age and I assume copious therapy and maybe meds doesn’t seem to have helped.

by Anonymousreply 83October 22, 2021 4:06 AM

I think FOX has finally come upon a gun story they'll cover.

by Anonymousreply 84October 22, 2021 4:06 AM

She who eats first laughs last.

by Anonymousreply 85October 22, 2021 4:06 AM

When I first read the headline, I was sort of hoping that Alec was the "one dead" on the movie shoot. Evil never dies, however.

by Anonymousreply 86October 22, 2021 4:07 AM

Alec Baldwin was the Scott Rudin of actors. His career is probably over.

by Anonymousreply 87October 22, 2021 4:07 AM


Especially because he is so famous for his hot temper.

by Anonymousreply 88October 22, 2021 4:07 AM

I don't think I could return to the set after this. I don't think I could even look at myself in the mirror after this.

Until now I've felt bad for Alec & Halyna Hutchins' family, it just clicked, how does a director return to a set to direct an actor who accidentally shot him?

[quote]I don’t see him serving time or even being charged for firing the gun, [R55]. But as producer he is open to liability.

I don't see him serving time.

Twilight Zone: The Movie was a different situation, but there were civil suits against the studio and director and settlements were paid.

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by Anonymousreply 89October 22, 2021 4:07 AM

Hollywood knows better than this.

by Anonymousreply 90October 22, 2021 4:08 AM

Are they saying yet if the actual bullet discharged? How the fuck did this happen again?? They put so many regulations in place after “The Crow”. I still can’t believe actors who feel safe using these things. Michelle Pfeiffer was shot at repeatedly at close range in a Batman movie. I remember watching it and thinking how anyone could do a scene like that and feel safe.

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by Anonymousreply 92October 22, 2021 4:10 AM

John Landis and Steven Spielberg should have been arrested for what they did on The Twilight Zone movie, not to mention the coverup and their behavior afterwards. Hollywood really is full of psychopaths and degenerates.

by Anonymousreply 93October 22, 2021 4:11 AM

Here's Halyna Hutchins Instagram page

You have to have a Instagram account to see it

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by Anonymousreply 94October 22, 2021 4:12 AM

[quote]When I first read the headline, I was sort of hoping that Alec was the "one dead" on the movie shoot. Evil never dies, however.

What's wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 95October 22, 2021 4:13 AM

Director Joel Souza; I haven’t seen any of his films, and I go every weekend to the cinema.

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by Anonymousreply 96October 22, 2021 4:13 AM

He was my choice for the 2021 unexpected death list thread!

by Anonymousreply 97October 22, 2021 4:14 AM

Baldwin is a sick fucker, this should be an 8 year old's headshot so she can get what, Lolita?

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by Anonymousreply 98October 22, 2021 4:15 AM

IMO, Alec got away, for a very long time, with some bad behavior, incl. homophobic stuff. Even on DL. Enough with this asshole, already. His wife will probably, finally, stop having children. Wife is a total fraud and somehow got a pass for that.

by Anonymousreply 99October 22, 2021 4:16 AM

R67, that reminds me of the crazy bitch in “The Queen of Versailles” who said that once she realized she could hire nannies, she decided to have six kids.

Then her husband’s business started to fail and the money dried up and she was was floundering in a mansion with only two maids to do everything. It was hilarious, except that the kids really suffered for it.

by Anonymousreply 100October 22, 2021 4:16 AM

From the next edition of Match Game:

Tina Fey, Fill-in Host: "Alec Baldwin was so loaded...."

Audience: "How loaded was he?"

Tina:" He was so loaded that when they told him to BLANK his colleagues, he shot them instead!"

by Anonymousreply 101October 22, 2021 4:17 AM

Do they have five boys and one girl?

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by Anonymousreply 102October 22, 2021 4:18 AM

In his defense, he has to go home to this.

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by Anonymousreply 103October 22, 2021 4:19 AM

I'm on it!

by Anonymousreply 104October 22, 2021 4:19 AM

Two girls.

by Anonymousreply 105October 22, 2021 4:20 AM

Something so repulsive about Instagram posted by R 15. She could be posing with stuffed animals . She exudes a polished detachment — from the lacy bra, the booty shorts, the teeth greased over with Vaseline so the smile never sticks

by Anonymousreply 106October 22, 2021 4:21 AM

[quote] How does he accidentally shoot two people? Was the director standing directly behind the cinematographer? How does he fire a second time?

It’s Complicated.

by Anonymousreply 107October 22, 2021 4:22 AM

I hate the Matthew Broderick troll at r74. If you’re not related to the deceased, then get over it and get a fucking life!

by Anonymousreply 108October 22, 2021 4:23 AM

[quote] how do you live with yourself after that?

He'll be drowning his sorrows in his wife's world-famous sangria tonight.

by Anonymousreply 109October 22, 2021 4:23 AM

As to R103 Instagram post —- repulsive— like she is posing with dolls. I don’t care if those spawn have boatloads of money — life not looking good for them

by Anonymousreply 110October 22, 2021 4:24 AM

I hope the police due a serious investigation because one has to at least ask if Alec did it on purpose. Remember Alec punched his hand through a wall working with that actress on Broadway?

Plus he had that fight over a parking spot.

Plus with a duplitious nutjob of a wife NOTHING would surprise me.

Also, he blocked me on Twitter after I said something innocuous.

It's suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 111October 22, 2021 4:24 AM

Better: "He was so loaded that when they told him to fire his castmates, he [BLANKED] at them instead!"

by Anonymousreply 112October 22, 2021 4:24 AM

Lock him up!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 113October 22, 2021 4:25 AM

Their p.r. redemption move will be to have two more surrogate babies and name them after Alec's victims. IG posts to follow...

by Anonymousreply 114October 22, 2021 4:26 AM

R111- According to Deadline, the police just released a statement that he was questioned and released-

by Anonymousreply 115October 22, 2021 4:27 AM

Ugh, do, not due.

by Anonymousreply 116October 22, 2021 4:27 AM

I don't think it was on purpose. He has rage issues but it sounds like an accident.

However, he shot and killed a cinematographer so even if it is an accident, I'm sure no DP would work with him now. He will probably never recover from this.

by Anonymousreply 117October 22, 2021 4:27 AM

[quote] I don’t care if those spawn have boatloads of money — life not looking good for them

I condole them.

by Anonymousreply 118October 22, 2021 4:28 AM

Why does one feel that Alec got away with a *shitload* of bad, even criminal, behavior in his life and that it FINALLY caught up with him. Jon Hamm, you're next.

by Anonymousreply 119October 22, 2021 4:32 AM

Someone posted this above as an Instagram link, but I screenshot it as it will likely be taken down. It's Alec with a fake gunshot wound, posted to his Instagram 12 hours ago. Comments are accumulating.

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by Anonymousreply 120October 22, 2021 4:37 AM

Wait, how do you accidentally shoot TWO people? And crew members, not actors who you might be shooting at in a scene. Considering his notorious temper, there's a non-zero chance that he did it on purpose.

by Anonymousreply 121October 22, 2021 4:37 AM

It's the most recent thing posted, currently.

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by Anonymousreply 122October 22, 2021 4:38 AM

No one ever said blanks. Just prop gun. Which i take it was a real gun used as a prop.

by Anonymousreply 123October 22, 2021 4:38 AM

I don’t think rage was involved. It was just a really unfortunate accident.

by Anonymousreply 124October 22, 2021 4:42 AM

Why would there be a REAL BULLET in a prop gun (Actually real of course) in a movie? WHY???

by Anonymousreply 125October 22, 2021 4:42 AM

If, as reported, they were shooting a scene with the gun: a) who brings a real gun on set without it being impounded and watched over by someone till it's needed? b) who puts real bullets in a gun that is due to be fired on set? c) how did the cinematographer AND director, who stand behind the cameras, get in the way of bullets being fired during a scene?

It smells all wrong.

by Anonymousreply 126October 22, 2021 4:43 AM

Sorry R125, simultaneous post.

by Anonymousreply 127October 22, 2021 4:43 AM

How could know that r124? Where u on set?

by Anonymousreply 128October 22, 2021 4:43 AM

[quote]who puts real bullets in a gun that is due to be fired on set

And whoever did, isn't that premeditated murder?

by Anonymousreply 129October 22, 2021 4:45 AM

There are no accidents.

by Anonymousreply 130October 22, 2021 4:46 AM

How badly was Alec pissing off the prop people?

by Anonymousreply 131October 22, 2021 4:47 AM

Deadline reports that the Ukrainian-born Hutchins, who was based in Los Angeles, was hit in the stomach, the man in the shoulder. The set of the movie reportedly went into lockdown after the gunfire.

by Anonymousreply 132October 22, 2021 4:47 AM

How long until he shoot hilarious then himself?

by Anonymousreply 133October 22, 2021 4:48 AM

The woman’s family is gonna sue Baldwin into oblivion. And even if it’s his “ corporate business”, it’ll still cost lots and lots of money

by Anonymousreply 134October 22, 2021 4:49 AM

Do they even do active shooter drills on sets?

by Anonymousreply 135October 22, 2021 4:49 AM

Propmaster handles all the guns. He or she is also in some serious shit right now.

by Anonymousreply 136October 22, 2021 4:55 AM

That is so fucked up. Did one bullet pass through one and hit the other? Or did he fire twice? I wonder how many people witnessed it, and what the real story is.

by Anonymousreply 137October 22, 2021 4:55 AM

[quote]How could know that [R124]? Where u on set?

This kind of childish comment full of text speak and wrong words is exactly what the rightwing trolls on Twitter have been posting for the last couple of hours. They're ghouls, happy someone is dead and another in critical condition, because they get to dunk on Alec Baldwin. Absolutely no sense of proportion or decency.

by Anonymousreply 138October 22, 2021 4:55 AM

horrible. They really should stop using real weapons in hollywood

For reference, here's a 2005 interview with the actor who accidentally shot Brandon Lee

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by Anonymousreply 139October 22, 2021 4:56 AM

On the bright side, they can just put Stephen or Billy in a fat suit and still finish the movie.

by Anonymousreply 140October 22, 2021 4:56 AM

Blanks are real bullets!

They're real bullets that have had the projectiles removed. If a blank has a manufacturing defect like a piece of metal accidentally lodged in the cotton wadding, that piece of metal will turn into a bullet. If the blank breaks off part of the barrel of the gun (especially if it's a vintage gun) then that piece of the gun will turn into a projectile.

by Anonymousreply 141October 22, 2021 4:58 AM

[quote]No one ever said blanks. Just prop gun. Which i take it was a real gun used as a prop.

Baldwin said in his statement that the gun was using blanks.

by Anonymousreply 142October 22, 2021 4:59 AM

Fuck off r128.

by Anonymousreply 143October 22, 2021 5:01 AM

This is so terrible. I feel very bad for the two who were shot.

Why do they even need blanks at all? Can't they just put the sound in later?

by Anonymousreply 144October 22, 2021 5:05 AM


It could have been Jensen Ackles that was killed by Alec Baldwin on the set of their film..

I'm having the vapours!

by Anonymousreply 145October 22, 2021 5:06 AM

If it had been Jensen Ackles who did the shooting, the DL would have had him in the electric chair before we'd got this far in the thread.

by Anonymousreply 146October 22, 2021 5:11 AM

I’m sorry, but who thought Alec Baldwin was perfect casting for a western?

by Anonymousreply 147October 22, 2021 5:12 AM

I actually feel bad for Alec. That’s a lot of guilt even if it was an accident. Additionally, he and other cast members are very likely to have PTSD.

by Anonymousreply 148October 22, 2021 5:13 AM

I assume someone has already said that this movie is DOA, but I still felt compelled to type it. Isn't that strange.? I've been moody and blue, lately. So this might be seeking both validation and abuse, I guess. Speaking of guess, I bet you already realized that I'm really stoned. Not that I added anything to life in posting this comment, but it kept me busy for a few minutes. I'm a slow typist, ergo, wasted time.

by Anonymousreply 149October 22, 2021 5:14 AM

Some semantics here. What most people refer to as bullets are actually cartridges, which consist of the shell casing, powder load and projectile. In a handgun ir rifle cartridge, the projectile is as bullet. In a shot gun the projectile is either shot or a slug. Shotgun cartridges are also known as shells. They also include wadding to hold the powder and shot tight. A pistol cartridge will have a reduced powder charge and paper and wax wadding to hold in the powder. At point blank range this can be dangerous as Jon-Erik Hexum found out. There is no way this wadding could be lethal at any sort of distance. It simply doesn’t have the mass or energy. This is why bullets are made from lead.

I’ve been in several movie sets where firearms were present. There is a specialist in the prop department known as an armorer who is in charge of the firearms and loads them with blank cartridges. Nobody even remotely qualified could confuse a blank with a live round. Without a lead bulletin, the blank weighs next to nothing compared to the real deal. There should be no way a live round should be anywhere near a movie set

by Anonymousreply 150October 22, 2021 5:14 AM

[quote]How does he accidentally shoot two people?

The scene called for him to shoot twice, I'm sure. The real questions are why was ANYONE standing in the line of fire for the shot, and how did the gun manage to shoot two projectiles? Real guns used as props are common enough in period films, they use antique guns to look authentic, but sets line up shots so that no one on cast or crew is actually in front of the gun when it goes off because of situations just like this.

Also, I can see one blank being a defect and shooting a projectile, not two. I could also see a blank causing a chip in the barrel that turned into a projectile, but I can't imagine it could have fired a second round after that kind of damage, not without hurting the person holding the gun.

by Anonymousreply 151October 22, 2021 5:15 AM


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by Anonymousreply 152October 22, 2021 5:16 AM

Why would the Clintons want the cinematographer dead??

by Anonymousreply 153October 22, 2021 5:18 AM

As some of the facts unfold it seems likely Baldwin will be arrested. If he leaves New Mexico he can expect to be extradited back.

by Anonymousreply 154October 22, 2021 5:20 AM

Why after shooting the first person did he shoot the second person?

by Anonymousreply 155October 22, 2021 5:20 AM

Terrible. Everyone on set must be traumatized.

by Anonymousreply 156October 22, 2021 5:22 AM

I can't help but think of Midnight Rider (the Gregg Allman biopic). They were going to film a scene on a railroad but didn't have permission. Yet they filmed anyway and a train came rolling through. A camerawoman was killed and several others were hurt. The film was cancelled and people (including the director) went to prison. Then there was a stuntwoman who lost her arm on the set of Resident Evil: The Final Chapter and another crew member was crushed to death by a Hummer in a separate incident.

So this is far from the first time something like this has happened.

by Anonymousreply 157October 22, 2021 5:22 AM

Who loaded the guns?

by Anonymousreply 158October 22, 2021 5:22 AM

[quote] Why after shooting the first person did he shoot the second person?


by Anonymousreply 159October 22, 2021 5:24 AM

Guys. You actually think he shot someone on purpose? On a movie set? With tons of people around? That's just silly.

Obviously (and I have no actual info) something happened with the prop gun. Something super tragic.

by Anonymousreply 160October 22, 2021 5:26 AM

What am I chopped head livah?

by Anonymousreply 161October 22, 2021 5:26 AM

This article has pics of Baldwin outside the sheriff's office in Santa Fe.

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by Anonymousreply 162October 22, 2021 5:27 AM

Why would he aim the gun at the cinematographer and the director? They are not acting in the movie. Did he have beef with them?

by Anonymousreply 163October 22, 2021 5:28 AM

[quote]What am I chopped head livah?

Nope, Twilight Zone: The Movie was mentioned at R89.

by Anonymousreply 164October 22, 2021 5:28 AM

Alec Baldwin could stand in the middle of a movie set, shoot someone and not lose supporters.

by Anonymousreply 165October 22, 2021 5:29 AM

This is tragic.

by Anonymousreply 166October 22, 2021 5:30 AM

He looks like shit at R162. Fat and slovenly. Didn’t even bother to comb his hair (toopay). Is he going for the homeless look?

by Anonymousreply 167October 22, 2021 5:30 AM

Alex is the killer!!!!

by Anonymousreply 168October 22, 2021 5:31 AM

Alec Baldwin is the killer!!!

by Anonymousreply 169October 22, 2021 5:31 AM

[quote] Vic Morrow

I was going to mention you, but I couldn't recall your name.

I loved you in Combat.

by Anonymousreply 170October 22, 2021 5:31 AM

The Daily Mail purports to know the gun’s intent.

From r64:

[quote]Baldwin, 68, was confirmed as the individual who fired the prop gun, which somehow unintentionally launched a projectile or projectiles at the crew members, in a statement from the Santa Fe Sheriff's Office.

by Anonymousreply 171October 22, 2021 5:31 AM

..., on the movie set, with a gun.

by Anonymousreply 172October 22, 2021 5:32 AM

I remember when E! True Hollywood Story did a trial enactment of the John Landis Twilight Zone movie trial. it was so campy and fun. If Alec goes to trial, they should do an episiode with actors playing Baldwin, lawyers etc.

by Anonymousreply 173October 22, 2021 5:34 AM

Is he still drinking? I know he's gonna feel bad but I doubt he's gonna go off the deep end because of this.

He's a CUNT who doesn't give a shit about nobody but himself. Don't forget, he's a homophobe who yelled the F word at least twice.

He deserves whatever that's coming....fuck this cunt. Hope he and his whore wife fade into oblivion.

by Anonymousreply 174October 22, 2021 5:37 AM

I hope they can contact Lola Montez’s ghost and see if she wants to play Eel. I’m sure she’ll be down; she has nothing else going on.

by Anonymousreply 175October 22, 2021 5:37 AM

[quote]I’m hearing the union camera crew walked because they were upset about gun safety on the film up to that point.

The guy who tweeted this seems a little less than neutral about the situation so I'm going to take this with a grain of salt until more info comes out.

by Anonymousreply 176October 22, 2021 5:37 AM

Dear Lord in Heaven!

by Anonymousreply 177October 22, 2021 5:38 AM

more Twittet

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by Anonymousreply 178October 22, 2021 5:39 AM

This is the director of photography's reel.

A shame she lost her life so young.

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by Anonymousreply 179October 22, 2021 5:40 AM

Good, I hope he never works again.

There will be lawsuits and I hope he goes bankrupt!

by Anonymousreply 180October 22, 2021 5:40 AM

These things happen. Whoopsy-doo.

by Anonymousreply 181October 22, 2021 5:42 AM

single bullet theory

by Anonymousreply 182October 22, 2021 5:43 AM

Don't worry DL--- Murder in Hollywood is like Child Molestation in Hollywood---UNprosecuted...Alec will be fine...

by Anonymousreply 183October 22, 2021 5:43 AM

R183 Go fuck yourself, Trump supporting, QAnon wacko.

This is a very, very sad story on many levels. Depressing. I think you'd have to have a pretty dark soul to be able to joke about it. One life has ended, and multiple lives are in ruins. Absolutely horiffic.

by Anonymousreply 184October 22, 2021 5:46 AM

If it's true the union walked off over gun safety the day before - if it's absolutely true - Baldwin as producer will be convicted of murder on one degree or another. Moreover, if he is the one who fired the gun while aiming it at people, that's a fourth strike against him.

by Anonymousreply 185October 22, 2021 5:47 AM

How you say ‘my bad’?

by Anonymousreply 186October 22, 2021 5:48 AM

HILLARIA has spoken ------>>"Mi Hillaria el iglasias del sorryito for murdio bang bang" .........

by Anonymousreply 187October 22, 2021 5:48 AM

Alec joins Matthew Broderick in the Hollywood (accidental) Killers list...

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by Anonymousreply 188October 22, 2021 5:51 AM

Maybe he was fucking around like some immature kid and shot at them and then realised they were actually hit and bleeding.

by Anonymousreply 189October 22, 2021 5:51 AM

Wait, Alec’s real name is Alexander? Wouldn’t he be Alex Baldwin then?

by Anonymousreply 190October 22, 2021 5:52 AM

[quote] who puts real bullets in a gun that is due to be fired on set

Maybe it was Chucky. He’s done that before. That’s his MO.

by Anonymousreply 191October 22, 2021 5:53 AM

Did the police check and see if he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol?

Or were the police star struck and just do the bare minimum

by Anonymousreply 192October 22, 2021 5:53 AM

R158, You stole my Drag name from that thread!

by Anonymousreply 193October 22, 2021 5:53 AM

Why. Was. He. Aiming. Anything. At. A. Non-actor?

How. Do. You. Shoot. Two. People. Accidentally?

by Anonymousreply 194October 22, 2021 5:54 AM

Prop guns don't kill people.

Alec Baldwin kills people.

by Anonymousreply 195October 22, 2021 5:55 AM

Fuck this CUNT! This is karma paying him back for everything!

by Anonymousreply 196October 22, 2021 5:56 AM

R184 = Oh Honey, that was a Bryan joke not a Q-Anon Proclamation, you fucking idiot. And you are being way too dramatic over a dead stranger. R183 here...LoL

by Anonymousreply 197October 22, 2021 5:57 AM

I wonder if he was drunk?!?

by Anonymousreply 198October 22, 2021 5:57 AM

Still can't come up with any reason why both the DP and director were in the line of fire, I can't imagine either one of them would have agreed to it even if Alec insisted he needed it for the shot.

by Anonymousreply 199October 22, 2021 5:57 AM

The GOOD NEWS is if Alec comes up missing---Momma and Poppa Laundrie should be able to locate him within a half hour...

by Anonymousreply 200October 22, 2021 5:58 AM

He's elderly, maybe he became confused and fired in the wrong direction?

by Anonymousreply 201October 22, 2021 5:58 AM

I wonder if Jan Maxwell said: "One day he's going to kill somebody."

by Anonymousreply 202October 22, 2021 5:59 AM

Easily 99% of the "Baldwin deserves this" posters are rightwingers. You can tell because they don't give one fucking shit about the dead and injured person, they are focusing entirely on Baldwin's bad luck, which is NOTHING compared to being DEAD.

Normal people don't say that one person deserved to die and a second deserved to be in critical condition just because of "karma" coming for Alec Baldwin.

by Anonymousreply 203October 22, 2021 5:59 AM

[Quote] If Alec goes to trial, they should do an episiode with actors playing Baldwin

I'll do it!

by Anonymousreply 204October 22, 2021 5:59 AM

[quote]Good, I hope he never works again.

A person died and another was injured yet a handful of people in this thread are hailing this as some kind of comeuppance for Alec Baldwin.

...and no, he didn't intentionally shoot people in front of witnesses with cameras rolling.

by Anonymousreply 205October 22, 2021 6:02 AM

I'll take over Alec's role.

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by Anonymousreply 206October 22, 2021 6:03 AM

Oh my god!

I mean...aye dios mio!

by Anonymousreply 207October 22, 2021 6:07 AM

Accidents do occur occasionally

by Anonymousreply 208October 22, 2021 6:08 AM

Here’s a group shot of everyone on set. The person he killed is standing between Alec and the pink poofy dress.

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by Anonymousreply 209October 22, 2021 6:10 AM

"Poppa go bang bang to Gringo Seniorta..El Chelupa Del Grande!!"-------Hillaria explaining the whole situation to her 12 kids...

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by Anonymousreply 210October 22, 2021 6:16 AM

R183 is right. Just ask William Shatner, Robert Blake, OJ…..

by Anonymousreply 211October 22, 2021 6:17 AM

I thought everyone knew mi papi doesn't shoot blanks.

by Anonymousreply 212October 22, 2021 6:19 AM

R174 He is now.

by Anonymousreply 213October 22, 2021 6:22 AM

That's probably an accident.

by Anonymousreply 214October 22, 2021 6:24 AM

According to the Times, the movie is ABOUT someone fleeing after accidentally shooting someone.

How meta.

by Anonymousreply 215October 22, 2021 6:25 AM

I’m struggling to understand why people can’t conceive of a movie scene being filmed during which a firearm is pointed in the general direction of the camera. It seems like something that’s exceedingly plausible. If something went wrong with the safety protocols in such a scenario, you get a tragic outcome,

by Anonymousreply 216October 22, 2021 6:25 AM

Usually, news stories, even tragic ones, about people I don't know personally tend to not impact me too much. But there's something about this one that has me really depressed. Maybe it has partly to do with people's reaction to it. Many of the people in the Deadline article comments section brought up his Trump impression on SNL, either to say "serves him right" or "of course he murdered people after he murdered the character of our leader." These people are absolutely insane, and idiots to boot.

Something feels very dark.

by Anonymousreply 217October 22, 2021 6:27 AM

Any news on how Alec is doing?

by Anonymousreply 218October 22, 2021 6:28 AM

R111, celebs are odd ducks; they block people on twitter who disagree with them, who AGREE with them or who writing something benign.

They're WEIRD>

by Anonymousreply 219October 22, 2021 6:29 AM

With his history of tantrums, threats and altercations... I'm expecting the worst. Involuntary manslaughter?

by Anonymousreply 220October 22, 2021 6:31 AM

This was the plot of a cheesy book I read at least a decade ago. It turns out (in the story) that the actor was set up by some random person on set with a grudge. So who knows? That may be the case here.

by Anonymousreply 221October 22, 2021 6:31 AM

Everybody knew it was only a matter of time before Baldwin killed somebody

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by Anonymousreply 222October 22, 2021 6:31 AM

[quote] I’m struggling to understand why people can’t conceive of a movie scene being filmed during which a firearm is pointed in the general direction of the camera.

Because when this is done, there usually are NOT two people standing there.

There are so many professional machines that can remotely control a camera for this to happen.

by Anonymousreply 223October 22, 2021 6:32 AM

Sounds like the fault of the propmaster.

by Anonymousreply 224October 22, 2021 6:33 AM

Hold me Alec. I'm scared.

by Anonymousreply 225October 22, 2021 6:33 AM

Accidents happen!

by Anonymousreply 226October 22, 2021 6:33 AM

Here he is outside the sheriff's office

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by Anonymousreply 227October 22, 2021 6:34 AM

Wasn’t this an episode of Columbo?

by Anonymousreply 228October 22, 2021 6:36 AM

It was no accident, bet he had a few drinks and shot them coz that's what I'm the back of his mind since day 1 of the project.

by Anonymousreply 229October 22, 2021 6:36 AM

R227, like he’s going to vomit . He’s distraught

by Anonymousreply 230October 22, 2021 6:39 AM

[quote] According to the Times, the movie is ABOUT someone fleeing after accidentally shooting someone.

Rust is a return to the wild shoot outs of the classic western in the Wild, Wild West. A grandson seeks out his grandfather after his parents are gunned down. The grandfather (played by Alec Baldwin) accidentally shoots and kills someone and goes on the run with his grandson. Hilaria ensues.

by Anonymousreply 231October 22, 2021 6:40 AM

This is a vile, disgusting human being who deserves no sympathy. There is a long list of shit he's done, like screaming at his daughter, punching photographers, calling them gay slurs, fighting over parking spaces. Just a big fucking bully. And then there is that whore wife of his....

He fucking deserved it. Esp I think he was drunk. He does whatever the fuck he wants coz he's Alec fucking Baldwin! Rules don't apply to him! Esp those gun safety rules.

by Anonymousreply 232October 22, 2021 6:42 AM

[quote] He fucking deserved it.

OK, psycho. Did she deserve it too?

by Anonymousreply 233October 22, 2021 6:43 AM

Any pic of the guy who died?


by Anonymousreply 234October 22, 2021 6:44 AM

No guy died.

by Anonymousreply 235October 22, 2021 6:45 AM

A woman died. Halyna Hutchins. Very talented and quite lovely.

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by Anonymousreply 236October 22, 2021 6:47 AM

She was only 42!!

From Ukraine.

by Anonymousreply 237October 22, 2021 6:51 AM

[quote] a prop gun that misfired, striking Hutchins and director Joel Souza.

sorry, but that's not a prop gun, it's the real thing and supposedly "unloaded"!

by Anonymousreply 238October 22, 2021 6:52 AM

[quote] like he’s going to vomit . He’s distraught

Actor putting on a show

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by Anonymousreply 239October 22, 2021 6:54 AM

Let's check in with our paper of record for the latest. Always good for the photos at least.

This little tidbit jumped the fuck out at me:

The incident remains an active investigation. As more information becomes available, updates will be provided.' Explaining why the matter was being treated as a criminal investigation, a spokesman said: 'While we don't suspect foul play at this time, we cannot officially take it off the table yet.'

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by Anonymousreply 240October 22, 2021 6:54 AM

What happened ?

by Anonymousreply 241October 22, 2021 6:54 AM

I think a prop gun can be a real gun. Anything an actor touches is considered a "prop." (Except wardrobe.)

by Anonymousreply 242October 22, 2021 6:54 AM

Didn’t this happen in Oz?


by Anonymousreply 243October 22, 2021 6:58 AM

Has the wigmaster commented?

by Anonymousreply 244October 22, 2021 7:00 AM

𝗔𝗹𝗲𝗰 𝗕𝗮𝗹𝗱𝘄𝗶𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗔𝗺𝘆 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗲𝗿 𝗷𝗼𝗶𝗻 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗶-𝗡𝗥𝗔 𝗶𝗻𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲

Celebrities, including Alec Baldwin, Amy Schumer and Jimmy Kimmel, have added their voices to a new initiative targeting the National Rifle Association.

The stars have partnered with students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school, policy experts, and various grassroots gun safety organizations to start the No Rifle Association Initiative, which pledges to reduce the NRA’s influence in American politics with demonstrations, boycotts and voter registration efforts.

. The letter accuses the NRA of fighting “every single basic gun reform measure that might have saved lives” and vows to “shine a bright light on what you and your organization do to America”.


Ironically the NRA emphasizes the safe and responsible handling of firearms. 𝑆𝑢𝑐ℎ 𝑎𝑠 "𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑚𝑒 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑖𝑠 𝑙𝑜𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑑" 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑙𝑒 𝑖𝑡 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑙𝑦.

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by Anonymousreply 245October 22, 2021 7:01 AM

Angry much r232?

Pot calling the kettle…

by Anonymousreply 246October 22, 2021 7:04 AM

yahoo just wrote a nice article to explain what might have happened there, worth the read!

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by Anonymousreply 247October 22, 2021 7:04 AM

Has the Best Boy commented?

by Anonymousreply 248October 22, 2021 7:05 AM

It’s sickening how excited and gleeful some posters are over this. It’s just vile.

by Anonymousreply 249October 22, 2021 7:05 AM

This is a website for pointless bitchery. Unclench.

by Anonymousreply 250October 22, 2021 7:07 AM

[quote]Why would he aim the gun at the cinematographer and the director? They are not acting in the movie. Did he have beef with them?

A comment in the article at R162 theorizes that they were rehearsing a scene in which Alec's character fires 2 shots directly into the camera, directly where both victims would have been standing if the director of photograph were holding the camera. They also guessed that she could have been holding the camera in lieu of an absent union crew member.

If they were close enough and if the wadding hit a vulnerable area (an eye), maybe that could do this kind of damage? Still, the theory about shooting two shots directly into the camera sounds plausible.

by Anonymousreply 251October 22, 2021 7:08 AM

R251 sound very plausible. Despite my distaste for Alec Baldwin, I don't think he would deliberately shoot someone on a movie set. Some idiots probably loaded the gun.

by Anonymousreply 252October 22, 2021 7:11 AM

A prop 1876 Colt gun firing blanks one shot at a time seems unlikely to kill one and then injure another. The blank cartridge that killed Jon-Erik Hexum was held directly against his head.

by Anonymousreply 253October 22, 2021 7:12 AM

Team Alex!

by Anonymousreply 254October 22, 2021 7:12 AM

R250 Exactly, we were making fun of the World Trade Center disaster about 5 minutes after it happened.

It's the Datalounge way.

by Anonymousreply 255October 22, 2021 7:14 AM

Agreed, R250. For those who are oh-so-so horrified and disgusted at some of the posters' comments here--- just take your sanctimonious asses away from this thread and fuck off.

Anyway, some of you holier-than-thou people probably hope(d) for every Republican in the country to die horrible deaths; are you still better human beings then? Spare us the hypocrisy.

DL offends ALL---as it damn well should!

by Anonymousreply 256October 22, 2021 7:15 AM

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!!

I hope this kills his career and we will never have to see his ugly fat face again

by Anonymousreply 257October 22, 2021 7:17 AM

Nah, this is different. These posters are out for blood, digging up anything they can find to smear Alec. It’s troll central.

I’ve been here forever; this is pointless butchery.

by Anonymousreply 258October 22, 2021 7:18 AM

Ok, his career is over.

by Anonymousreply 259October 22, 2021 7:18 AM

Fuck off, scold at r256.

by Anonymousreply 260October 22, 2021 7:19 AM

Smear Alec? He has a terrible reputation.

by Anonymousreply 261October 22, 2021 7:25 AM

Good, I hope another actor will get his parts...he's a shit actor.

I think the last thing I saw him in was Hunt for red october.

by Anonymousreply 262October 22, 2021 7:25 AM

Too many fraus are infesting DL.

by Anonymousreply 263October 22, 2021 7:25 AM

He is a homophobe....why should we pity him?!

by Anonymousreply 264October 22, 2021 7:27 AM

I doubt this movie will be completed. The plot won't be accepted in light of what's happened.

by Anonymousreply 265October 22, 2021 7:27 AM

The page keeps reloading. The only thing that makes sense is that there were real bullets in the gun. Did he fire twice? Or did the same bullet pass through two people? What kind of gun shoots a bullet that does that? A rifle?

by Anonymousreply 266October 22, 2021 7:31 AM

Very interesting thread from someone in the business. He breaks down how guns with blanks are handled on set, as well as insight into a grip's job. (They don't call them grips for nothing).

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by Anonymousreply 267October 22, 2021 7:31 AM

Basinger made a post 12 hours ago about licking her lips every time she drew a gun on set.


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by Anonymousreply 268October 22, 2021 7:34 AM

I wonder what she did to really piss him off.

by Anonymousreply 269October 22, 2021 7:34 AM

well, is she straight or lesbian? we all know Alec is a homophobe!

by Anonymousreply 270October 22, 2021 7:36 AM

Whoops, his thread broke. Here's the bit about the grips.

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by Anonymousreply 271October 22, 2021 7:36 AM

It doesn't make sense for one blank in the stomach to kill a person.

by Anonymousreply 272October 22, 2021 7:41 AM

If Perry Mason was still on this would be next weeks episode.

by Anonymousreply 273October 22, 2021 7:42 AM

Oprah is already on the phone for the first interview with Alec since the tragedy, with the tears of Balwin who does not sleep anymore, thinking constantly abour killing himself but his false Spanish wife and his kids prevent him from committing such a horrible thing. In 3 months, we'll see Alec in the tablloids wandering the streets of Los Angeles, drunk and drugged, and his friends from Holyweird will tweet about him pretending to care. End of story guys.

by Anonymousreply 274October 22, 2021 7:43 AM

Sorry, I guess we don't know where she was hit yet.

by Anonymousreply 275October 22, 2021 7:45 AM

Why in the world would this destroy his career? Assuming it was an accident and it was a faulty prop gun?

Who in their right mind would blame an actor for "shooting" what he thought was a prop?

Baldwin isn't my favorite guy in the world but it seems silly to think an accident - however tragic - will kill his career.

by Anonymousreply 276October 22, 2021 7:48 AM

R272, it was reported that Halyna was hit in the stomach and the director was hit in the shoulder.

by Anonymousreply 277October 22, 2021 7:48 AM

r272, you are obviously very stupid. A shot to the gut can be fatal. you bleed to death very fast!

by Anonymousreply 278October 22, 2021 7:51 AM

And if bleeding to death doesn't get you, if it pierces the intestines, the sepsis will.

by Anonymousreply 279October 22, 2021 7:53 AM

R276 Maybe because he will never get over it? You know, killing someone is no a small thing. You know that, don't you? Jeez...

Anyways, his niece (and wife of Justin Bieber), doesn't seem to care by the looks of her Instagram stories

by Anonymousreply 280October 22, 2021 7:55 AM

I can only imagine how badly this would impact everyone involved. The poor director...to have a project go out like that. I doubt we'll ever see the movie. I will be shocked if they don't scrap the entire project.

by Anonymousreply 281October 22, 2021 7:56 AM

This is why we must ban all guns!!

by Anonymousreply 282October 22, 2021 7:56 AM

Baldwin's mental health after this... It would be a difficult task for anyone to deal with after accidentally killing someone.

BUT how is it possible that there are real bullets on the movie set? A Prop? Really?

by Anonymousreply 283October 22, 2021 8:00 AM

they use real guns but there are no bullets. they are blanks.

by Anonymousreply 284October 22, 2021 8:01 AM

Where's Colombo when we need him?

by Anonymousreply 285October 22, 2021 8:02 AM

Jessica Fletcher is on the case!

by Anonymousreply 286October 22, 2021 8:05 AM

He is fucked. Career over, and millions to be paid to the victims or their families. Unfortunately, he won't go to prison.

by Anonymousreply 287October 22, 2021 8:05 AM

The lawsuit will be settled and paid by the insurance. Alec will get off completely without having to pay a dime. The insurance will take the hit.

by Anonymousreply 288October 22, 2021 8:08 AM

They should recast Alex with Kim Basinger.

by Anonymousreply 289October 22, 2021 8:09 AM

[quote] This is why we must ban all guns!!—David Hogg

We'd do better to ban Alec Baldwin

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by Anonymousreply 290October 22, 2021 8:09 AM

R284 So blanks can kill now? Well, it's getting worst.

by Anonymousreply 291October 22, 2021 8:09 AM

They Shoot Cinematographers, Don't They?

by Anonymousreply 292October 22, 2021 8:10 AM

More info

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by Anonymousreply 293October 22, 2021 8:11 AM

His brother Stephen is asking for prayers on Instagram

by Anonymousreply 294October 22, 2021 8:12 AM

"On the ground, Baldwin was in shock but composed. He kept asking why he was handed a “hot gun.” Our eyewitness said Baldwin kept saying “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun.”

by Anonymousreply 295October 22, 2021 8:13 AM

All is forgiven..

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by Anonymousreply 296October 22, 2021 8:14 AM

R278 Um, blanks are not meant to go through a person's body. Even for Jon-Erik Hexum, the blank didn't go through his skull and he literally pointed the gun directly at his head.

So before you call someone stupid, you should look in the mirror.

by Anonymousreply 297October 22, 2021 8:14 AM

For all we know, the frame was set up so the DP and director were both looking at the monitor, and in Baldwin's sight line per the nature of the shot, so to speak.

Someone at Hollywood Elsewhere dug up a tweet from four years ago ... morbid ...

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by Anonymousreply 298October 22, 2021 8:16 AM

Gun loaded with real bullets. I didn't think a blank could do that much damage.

A responsible shooter would have known to check the gun's load himself. You NEVER trust a firearm you haven't checked.

by Anonymousreply 299October 22, 2021 8:16 AM

A stuntman was killed by a blank in 2017. From the description, this one sounds like commotio cordis. With enough force, being struck in the chest during the ascending phase of the T-wave can fatally disrupt a heart's rhythm. A deep, penetrating wound isn't necessary.

I've only seen one case, and it was a boy who was playing street hockey and got hit by small rubber ball. According to the kids playing with him, he said "nice..." and fell forward before he could finish. He was very lucky that there was a school sporting event at the time and they were playing just across the parking lot from the ambulance.

[quote]Police were notified prior to the filming of the video that guns would be used and that there was no live ammunition on site.

[quote]Blanks were used but it is suspected that a piece, or pieces, of debris from one of the chambers exited the barrel, fatally injuring the Gold Coast father, according to an industry insider who wanted to remain anonymous.

[quote]Fairfax Media was told the 28-year-old's fellow stuntmen only realised he was in trouble once they noticed he had not returned to his feet as they had.

[quote]There was a wound to Ofner's chest, but not that of a shotgun blast, and very little blood surrounding him.

[quote]The industry insider said CPR was performed on Ofner as soon as his condition was made clear, but he died almost instantly.

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by Anonymousreply 300October 22, 2021 8:20 AM

How the fuck would Alec know what to check for, R299?

by Anonymousreply 301October 22, 2021 8:21 AM

R280 don't be daft. Those on here claiming this will "kill" his career aren't saying it because they're worrying about Alec's pending mental health and fallout over the guilt of what happened. And you know that.

Sheesh right back at ya.

by Anonymousreply 302October 22, 2021 8:24 AM

R300 So, again, the blank didn't go through his body.

by Anonymousreply 303October 22, 2021 8:26 AM

R299 I don't think you can expect a Hollywood actor to do that. That's the job of the gun expert they're supposed to have on set.

by Anonymousreply 304October 22, 2021 8:30 AM

Can you imagine how Kim Basinger would've handled this had she still been married to Alec? To call her hypersensitive is an understatement—she would have lost her fucking mind if she had to face him in their home after something like this happened. She's probably still having a mental breakdown right now over it, even though they've been split for years.

by Anonymousreply 305October 22, 2021 8:31 AM

¡R305, gracias a dios que tiene Hilaria en su lugar!

by Anonymousreply 306October 22, 2021 8:35 AM

R305 What happened between these two? I mean why did they break up? What happened to Kim?

by Anonymousreply 307October 22, 2021 8:37 AM

[quote] EXCLUSIVE It was one bullet that discharged from the prop gun on the Santa Fe movie “Rust” and killed the director of photography and wounded the movie’s director.

[quote] An eyewitness on set tells this column that the bullet went straight through the body of DP Halyna Hutchins and into the clavicle of the film’s director Joel Souza.

[quote] Very quickly the set was locked down. Ambulance and helicopters arrived. Hutchins and Souza were sent straight to the hospital. Hutchins died en route in a helicopter.

[quote] On the ground, Baldwin was in shock but composed. He kept asking why he was handed a “hot gun.” Our eyewitness said Baldwin kept saying “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun.”

[quote] “A hot gun” means a gun with real ammunition.

So it was a REAL bullet.

One bullet that went through the DP's stomach and then hit the director.

by Anonymousreply 308October 22, 2021 8:39 AM

[quote] How the fuck would Alec know what to check for, [R299]?

Even an actor should be able to figure that out

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by Anonymousreply 309October 22, 2021 8:43 AM

Shit, that's bad.

by Anonymousreply 310October 22, 2021 8:43 AM

[quote] “Rust” is a Tier 1 movie, meaning it was being produced for under $6 million. Our source says: “They had safety meetings every day but it was a Tier I movie, so they probably didn’t have more than 1 prop person.”

by Anonymousreply 311October 22, 2021 8:46 AM

Probably some idiot had been showing off, playing with the gun, using real bullets and left one in, forgetting about it, now knowing they were about to rehearse. OR Alec went off schedule and decided to rehearse the scene unplanned, used the wrong gun, and/or picked up the hot gun someone had been playing with because it wasn't supposed to be used that day. Due to his impatience or temper, he might have rushed the grips or gone off plan.

by Anonymousreply 312October 22, 2021 8:53 AM

Unless he fired two shots, the scenario at R308 is the only one that makes sense. I realized after I posted at R300 that it might have sounded like I was suggesting the same thing happened here. I wasn't. I was just pointing out another on-set shooting death and what can happen with blanks at close range, and balls or hockey pucks at a longer range.

Someone commented on how guns are supposed to be handled on film sets. I have no idea how accurate this is...

My guess is there wasn’t an armorer due to budget.

A word about set protocol- the first assistant director is responsible for the safety of cast and crew on set. Period.

The stunt coordinator is responsible for the safety of the actors, but of course there is overlap.

Lacking an armorer, the prop master is responsible for the safety of the weapons.

The 1st AD usually looks down the barrel of every gun that comes on set, including dupes and toys-the prop master shows them to him. If he doesn’t the AD makes sure he never makes that mistake again.

The first AD then shows the weapon to the actors to make sure they know whether they are loaded or not. There is absolutely never a reason to be rehearsing with a loaded gun.

When the weapons are loaded the 1st AD holds a brief safety meeting alerting the cast and crew that there are loaded weapons on set, directing that nobody handles them except the armorer/propmaster and the involved actors.

When the shot is over the armorer/propmaster immediately collects the guns and reloads if another take is necessary.

At least that’s the way it’s supposed to work.

For those of you ready to jail Alec Baldwin, there’s a good chance he didn’t know it was loaded; it could have even discharged during the exchange.

Real live bullets are never used in scenes with actors. “Loaded” or “live” means with a blank, either a full, half or quarter load. Of course, as we’ve seen too many times, those can be deadly if mishandled.

I don’t want to speculate on exactly what happened but of all the guesses in the original, earlier article, the lead from a dummy round lodged in the barrel makes the most sense.

Just a horrible tragedy. Thoughts are with the victims, their families and friends, and with the cast and crew. To various degrees their lives will never be the same.

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by Anonymousreply 313October 22, 2021 8:56 AM

If they were less than halfway finished with the movie, they just need to scrap the project. It would be too eerie and creepy (and IMO disrespectful) to keep filming after such a tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 314October 22, 2021 9:07 AM

R106 teeth greased over with Vaseline? Explain please; it's the first time I heard this.

by Anonymousreply 315October 22, 2021 9:16 AM

If anyone goes to jail, it'll be the prop guy

by Anonymousreply 316October 22, 2021 9:18 AM

here are some photos taken after the accident, not a fan of Baldwin, but the poor guy was clearly shaken by what happened!

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by Anonymousreply 317October 22, 2021 9:22 AM

Alec was probably fucking around with the gun, playing and pointing it, when it fired.

by Anonymousreply 318October 22, 2021 9:23 AM

Why would you aim and pull the trigger at someone uninvolved, blanks or no blanks? He might not have aimed but then, how many shots did it take to shoot two people? It's unlikely to hit two with one bullet.

by Anonymousreply 319October 22, 2021 9:24 AM

Ashes to ashes, dust to "Rust".

by Anonymousreply 320October 22, 2021 9:26 AM

The same thing happened when Alec was playing with his dick. He thought he was shooting blanks and misfired, hitting a woman in the belly and also hitting a man.

by Anonymousreply 321October 22, 2021 9:30 AM

No matter whether someone likes Alec or not, and I dont really care about him right now but I feel so sorry for the DP and her losing her life. Her foot note in history is being killed by this asshole.

by Anonymousreply 322October 22, 2021 9:31 AM

R306 Crazy touchy feely Hilaria probably is better for Alec at this moment than basketcase Kim.

by Anonymousreply 323October 22, 2021 9:34 AM

[quote] I dont really care about him right now but I feel so sorry for the DP and her losing her life.

Over the years I've felt sorry for all of Alec's victims. Starting with his daughter

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by Anonymousreply 324October 22, 2021 9:36 AM

The director is out of the hospital.

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by Anonymousreply 325October 22, 2021 9:38 AM

from ABQ/Santa Fe local tv report, they also interviewed a few film crew members, apparently different sets have different rules/standards, one guy said the extras were even told they can bring their own guns for filming, but another guy who worked for "The Terminator" said they were very strict on handling the guns. This is an indie film, they might not even have a designated "armorer" due to the budget.

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by Anonymousreply 326October 22, 2021 9:39 AM

I am so glad the guy will be OK. That said, I can only imagine the survivor's guilt.

Most, if not of all, of the crew and actors set must be going through some serious PTSD and my heart goes out to them.

They really do need to scrap this film. Bad vibes city.

I said on another thread that while I don't see Hollywood "banishing" Alec, I do see him wanting to quit the business after something like this. He can go retire in Spain. You know who would be delighted at that idea.

by Anonymousreply 327October 22, 2021 9:42 AM

Go to jail, fucking old man.

by Anonymousreply 328October 22, 2021 9:52 AM

The poor cinematographer-RIP.

Oddly, this has gotten minimal media coverage . Where is the anti-gun brigade? Is Alec getting a pass again because of his lefty politics? Or the fact that he was hot for 5 minutes? This time someone is dead because of his douchebaggery.

by Anonymousreply 329October 22, 2021 9:53 AM

[quote]According to the Times, the movie is ABOUT someone fleeing after accidentally shooting someone.

[quote]How meta.

There was some guy on Twitter whining about how articles were talking about the plot of the film, like there was no reason for them to even mention it, and I had to roll my eyes. Of COURSE this is going to be mentioned, the film's plot is about an accidental shooting.

by Anonymousreply 330October 22, 2021 9:53 AM

This story is all over the internet, bitch R330. Get your nose out of FOX new's asshole for just a second and you might see that.

by Anonymousreply 331October 22, 2021 9:55 AM

For R329, R330

by Anonymousreply 332October 22, 2021 9:56 AM

I'm acquaintances with two people who knew Hutchins and they are both out for Alec's blood. I've been keeping my big yap shut because I think this sounds like an accident, but someone (or maybe multiple someones) really dropped the ball here.

Fortunately Souza should be fine and a couple of people have said he was never really in critical condition, that it was actually a shrapnel wound that was serious enough but not on par with a gunshot wound. I'll be interested to see if that turns out to be true.

by Anonymousreply 333October 22, 2021 9:59 AM

One name comes to mind: Jon-Erik Hexum

by Anonymousreply 334October 22, 2021 10:02 AM

[quote] Real live bullets are never used in scenes with actors. “Loaded” or “live” means with a blank, either a full, half or quarter load. Of course, as we’ve seen too many times, those can be deadly if mishandled.

I suppose if it was a day they were going to get live bullet shots, there could have been two guns, one real and one prop, and Alec was given the wrong one. I'd have expected to see safety shields on the set if they were going to shoot live rounds at some point, though, and I didn't see anything like that in the helicopter shots.

[quote]I don’t want to speculate on exactly what happened but of all the guesses in the original, earlier article, the lead from a dummy round lodged in the barrel makes the most sense.

It wouldn't have had the mass to go through one body and hit another, though.

That said, knowing she was hit in the stomach and he was hit in the shoulder, a single shot seems unlikely, unless Alec was on the ground shooting upwards, and Hutchins was also on the ground with Souza standing or kneeling behind her.

by Anonymousreply 335October 22, 2021 10:04 AM

R333 Why should they be out for Alec's blood? It's mainly the prop master's fault.

by Anonymousreply 336October 22, 2021 10:04 AM

I would first investigate the relationship between Alec and the woman he accidentally killed in order to dispel any doubts

by Anonymousreply 337October 22, 2021 10:06 AM

Has Lens weighed in?

by Anonymousreply 338October 22, 2021 10:07 AM

R335 Why is that unlikely?

She could have been standing operating the camera. And the director was sitting in a chair.

by Anonymousreply 339October 22, 2021 10:07 AM

A lot of people don't like Alec and right now most are sympathetic with the union, r336. They're going to blame the rich celebrity who shot someone, not anyone on the crew. They're also not exactly thinking logically. All I know is that anyone who says the word "accident" on group chats right now is getting fucking reamed for it.

The info I had on Souza only being hit by shrapnel came about fourth- or fifth-hand from someone who I think was simply guessing based on what they saw on set. They did say the injury was near the neck, which sounds about right, now that we've heard he was injured near the clavicle. Again, I'll be interested to hear more about that in the coming days.

by Anonymousreply 340October 22, 2021 10:11 AM

R339, if the bullet hit her in the stomach and him in the shoulder, then she had to have been lower than he was for the trajectory to make sense.

Unless he was shot first and the bullet went through him into her? If that's the case then you'd be right.

by Anonymousreply 341October 22, 2021 10:12 AM

One reason it’s not all over social media is the story didn’t really hit until 11 pm EST that it was Alec that fired the gun. People went to bed.

by Anonymousreply 342October 22, 2021 10:13 AM

R341 Huh? Why is she supposed to be lower than him?

by Anonymousreply 343October 22, 2021 10:15 AM

I don't even know what you're asking, r343. We're talking about what the trajectory of the bullet must have been if there was truly only one bullet and one shot that wounded two people at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 344October 22, 2021 10:19 AM

That makes sense R340.

by Anonymousreply 345October 22, 2021 10:19 AM

[quote] if the bullet hit her in the stomach and him in the shoulder, then she had to have been lower than he was for the trajectory to make sense.

R344 Your statement is the opposite of what should happen. The director, who is male (so likely taller than her), was hit in the shoulder, a higher position on the body.

So for the bullet to make a straight line from her stomach to his shoulder, it means HE was lower than her...e.g. sitting (and her standing).

by Anonymousreply 346October 22, 2021 10:27 AM

I dont understand people claiming this is not getting media coverage. It was headline news in UK all stations covering this more than queen's hospital stay.

But I am not sure why some headlines state that it was a female crew member, who was shot by Alec Baldwin? Does her gender have anything to do with what happened?

by Anonymousreply 347October 22, 2021 10:27 AM

I didn't read every comment in this thread, but if I am the first to post a comment by DL former fave Joe Manganiello, you guys are really slipping. Do you think Joe was unavailable to be in this movie due to other commitments? Here's quote from People magazine:

"She was an absolutely incredible talent and a great person. She had such an eye and a visual style, she was the kind of cinematographer that you wanted to see succeed because you wanted to she what she could pull off next," wrote actor Joe Manganiello on Instagram, "and she was a fantastic person."

by Anonymousreply 348October 22, 2021 10:27 AM

In case you're concerned, it's gonna be all over the news today.

by Anonymousreply 349October 22, 2021 10:30 AM

Amurka lurves guns!

Just look at last week's SNL. Two sketches with guns. (When was last time an English sketch ever featured a gun?)

Most appalling, some twerp writer pulls a pistol on Rami Malek for a lame laugh. It's beyond a joke.

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by Anonymousreply 350October 22, 2021 10:30 AM

Only if the bullet came from above, r346, and Alec isn't that tall and there wasn't any indication he was on a platform or anything.

by Anonymousreply 351October 22, 2021 10:34 AM

R344 And Alec was likely just standing when he shot.

For some reason, you keep thinking that Alec had to have been on the ground shooting, which is why you said what you said.

by Anonymousreply 352October 22, 2021 10:34 AM

[quote]Why should they be out for Alec's blood?

In my experience, sometimes when families/friends are faced with an unexpected death their immediate reaction is to assign blame. It's almost as if their anger is the only thing that keeps them upright and somewhat functioning in the early hours.

Those same people always seem to lash out at the person with whom they least identify. I've seen them go after random hospital staff who just happened to be in the wrong place and had absolutely no contact with a patient who died.

It probably doesn't help that he has 58 happy, healthy kids and her son is now left without a mother.

by Anonymousreply 353October 22, 2021 10:34 AM

Why did they insist on making the accidental death scene so realistic??

by Anonymousreply 354October 22, 2021 10:39 AM

I hate when ppl describe these events as ‘accidents’ in that dealing with weapons (especially guns) negligence isn’t a passive thing. She didn’t kill herself, and she shouldn’t have been at risk. Somebody (or more than one person) are at fault. It’s like any insurance person will tell you, you might call it an accident but somebody made a calculable human error that was forced.

by Anonymousreply 355October 22, 2021 10:42 AM

“Someone yelled Hailey and I just started shooting”

by Anonymousreply 356October 22, 2021 10:46 AM

[quote] "It was an accident but how do you live with yourself after that?"

Very easily, R39.

by Anonymousreply 357October 22, 2021 11:01 AM

R232 You're a fucking moron. Likely a disgusting Trump supporter. Go fuck yourself, you piece of shit.

Alec Baldwin has had his moments of being erratic. He's human. He's not "vile" you stupid idiot.

This is a terrible situation. A women was killed, and her poor loved ones have to deal with this for the rest of their lives. As for Alec, I assume it was a terrible accident, and this is certainly something he will have to deal with for this rest of his life as well. You wanna talk about vile? Kicking a man on the worst day of his life, before you know all the facts is pretty fucking vile, you Maggat.

by Anonymousreply 358October 22, 2021 11:11 AM

R174 Fuck you, you piece of shit. You have no idea if he was drinking. You made that up out of thin air. In fact, you have no idea of exactly what happened. So keep your idiotic Trump supporter musings to yourself until we get some clarity on exactly what went down.

by Anonymousreply 359October 22, 2021 11:13 AM

[quote]How badly was Alec pissing off the prop people?

What is that even supposed to mean? You do know the prop people are actually the ones who will be held responsible, don't you? Actors are handed gun props trusting they are safe.

by Anonymousreply 360October 22, 2021 11:14 AM

It makes sense that there was a real bullet in the gun. But why? And who put it there? It also must be asked why Baldwin was pointing a gun, blank cartridge or not, at another person and then pulling the trigger? You don't do that. Never. And not even if you're NOT going to pull the trigger. I also assume the incident was filmed since everybody was on set. That might settle a lot.

by Anonymousreply 361October 22, 2021 11:17 AM

R264 You're a dummy. Using the word faggot a couple of times doesn't make one a homophobe. And you know what? He was brought up on Long Island in the early 70s- there may be some ingrained homophobia there, and frankly I couldn't care less. He certainly never supported anti gay causes, or had anti gay stances.

by Anonymousreply 362October 22, 2021 11:19 AM

If someone sabotaged the guns, it was almost certainly NOT a prop person, because they're going to get blamed. So will the armorer, if there was one.

It will probably turn out to be a mix-up between a real gun and the prop gun, possibly exacerbated by union employees having left the set and the remaining crew being expected to do more than usual, causing distractions. That would be MASSIVE irony since the rumor is the union crew left because of lack of gun safety. They'll get blamed for not being there but the accident isn't their fault, it's the fault of whoever decided to skimp on safety, and it almost certainly wasn't them.

by Anonymousreply 363October 22, 2021 11:20 AM

[quote] why Baldwin was pointing a gun, blank cartridge or not, at another person and then pulling the trigger? You don't do that.

R361 I don't think the 2 directors would just stand there to be shot at. I think they ALL didn't know or were ignorant of the risk. If you're ill-informed about guns, you might think blanks are totally safe.

by Anonymousreply 364October 22, 2021 11:29 AM

What r355 said. My mind boggles at what the film’s production company’s insurer is now doing and thinking.

by Anonymousreply 365October 22, 2021 11:36 AM

Has Trump commented yet?

by Anonymousreply 366October 22, 2021 11:39 AM

The old hotness: "A B C. Always Be Closing"

The new hotness: "I J K. I Just Killed"

by Anonymousreply 367October 22, 2021 11:39 AM

[quote]t makes sense that there was a real bullet in the gun. But why? And who put it there? It also must be asked why Baldwin was pointing a gun, blank cartridge or not, at another person and then pulling the trigger?

First Brandon Lee was killed with a blank, second they were rehearsing a scene, so it was probably where the actor is aiming straight at the camera to establish the point of view of who he is going to shoot, a scene in thousands of movies.

by Anonymousreply 368October 22, 2021 11:45 AM

I’m pulling this outta nowhere, but as others have suggested, Baldwin will permanently retire.

I don’t know about his financial state but 8 mouths to feed, upkeep on homes, educating six children, health insurance, etc. ain’t chicken feed but I’m guessing he’s at least a multi- millionaire.

by Anonymousreply 369October 22, 2021 11:47 AM

RIP: Rust In Peace

by Anonymousreply 370October 22, 2021 11:52 AM

I predict a D. I. V. O. R. C. E. Filed by her. Mrs. Baldwin will want to ensure child support and and maintenance while he still has money.

by Anonymousreply 371October 22, 2021 11:52 AM

If you’re ever involved in an incident that could cause you to have PTSD, you’re supposed to play Tetris as soon after as you can (within 24-48 hrs). For some reason it’s been shown to prevent PTSD.

by Anonymousreply 372October 22, 2021 11:55 AM

R369 he has other projects besides acting, I knew he was the host for the classic music on NPR a few years ago, after they fired Lisa Simeone (World of Opera).

by Anonymousreply 373October 22, 2021 11:57 AM

R157- A friend of mine worked on, “Midnight Rider”- I tried to persuade her to work on my project, and vice versa. I’ve interviewed with that director for a previous movie and didn’t get it (I kinda trashed-talked about the lead), but read about his “indie guerrilla” spirit comments, which left a bad taste in my mouth. Even after that incident happened ( a hairstylist almost had her arm severed off and she’s still in litigation), the friend had insisted that she would work with him- I kept on sending her articles about him, telling her that it would be a blot on her career if she insisted), and she finally relented. Obviously a very poor judge of character.

I’ll tell you guys that after the tensions of this weekend (Union’s imminent striking), and most crew loading out Friday/loading in on Monday, our cast and crew are totally wiped. I can see props/armorers not being on their A game.

by Anonymousreply 374October 22, 2021 12:01 PM

"I can see props/armorers not being on their A game."

Their job is to be on their A game, every time. There is no B game. If union activity and the threat of striking caused them not to be on their A game, then the union should expect a massive lawsuit (well, the union's insurer should expect it).

by Anonymousreply 375October 22, 2021 12:09 PM

Wonder if someone set up Baldwin on purpose? He is L O A T H E D by trumpers/deplorables …

by Anonymousreply 376October 22, 2021 12:15 PM

R376 doubt it, we don't even know it's a blank or not, they have not released any details so far.

by Anonymousreply 377October 22, 2021 12:18 PM

R15... I don't know who I can't stand the most....Markles or her. It's a close race....

by Anonymousreply 378October 22, 2021 12:23 PM

Baldwin has well documented rage issues. I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it on purpose.

by Anonymousreply 379October 22, 2021 12:31 PM

Alec is endlessly arrogant and always knows best. I've worked with him on non film-related projecta since 1992. It won't be even a little bit surprising if he rejected onset protocols and did something stupid. Of course he didn't intend to kill anyone but that level of arrogance and hostility never ends well over the long term.

By the way, to the moron who posts that everyone who calls out Alec for his egregious behavior is a trump lover, I worked for the Obama Administration.

by Anonymousreply 380October 22, 2021 12:39 PM

I can’t imagine Chynna Phillips’s next YouTube video.

by Anonymousreply 381October 22, 2021 12:44 PM

Has Susan Dey commented yet?......

by Anonymousreply 382October 22, 2021 12:49 PM

I'm sure one of you bitches has already mentioned it, but I found it downright flabbergasting that Alec dodged the bullet on his wife's faux Spanish persona being exposed. He definitely won't dodge the bullet on this shitshow...as won't the poor girl he killed.

Side note, and for karma: Any one of us could accidentally hit a pedestrian on our way to/from home. The irony is that Alec was both starring in and producing this film. And it wasn't as low-budget as people are claiming, what with an all-name primary cast. Him, Travis Fimmel, Francis Fisher, and Jensen Ackles. There was no reason for an accident like this to happen.

Side Note 2: Those above comparing this to a trump claiming he could shoot someone in the middle of Madison Avenue are on point. It's not coincidence that Alec played Trump on 'SNL'; they're both egomaniacal, narcissistic twats. It still doesn't mean Alec purposely killed the poor girl.

by Anonymousreply 383October 22, 2021 12:49 PM

HOw did two people get shot? Did he fire two shots?

by Anonymousreply 384October 22, 2021 12:51 PM

R105 Alec has 3 daughters - Ireland, Carmen, and baby Maria Lucia.

R167 Alec was crying after having just shot 2 people and being interviewed at the Sheriff's Dept. Brushing his hair was not a priority.

by Anonymousreply 385October 22, 2021 12:52 PM

R385, thank you, Hilaria! And thank you for including the rude, thoughtless little pig in this time of need. We condole you.

by Anonymousreply 386October 22, 2021 12:57 PM

Initially I heard a vague news report of "a shooting accident on an Alec Baldwin film" on the car radio yesterday afternoon. I wondered why this was news enough to report alongside all the other big stories. Whew. I feel terrible for all, including Alec.

Not that it changes outcome but it demonstrates why a good reputation is important. At times like these, you need a reserve of goodwill.

by Anonymousreply 387October 22, 2021 1:00 PM

Poor Alec...

by Anonymousreply 388October 22, 2021 1:01 PM

To those here with insurance and liability knowledge: If you had the say in the deceased family, and after the funeral and a portion of the shock of subsides, do you unleash the dogs of litigation hell?

Or, do you hold back, assured you’ll receive a settlement but wait while those who could be held liable for damages fight it out with each other on the knowledge that your settlement may increase?

by Anonymousreply 389October 22, 2021 1:05 PM

Can they pin this on Brian Laundrie?

by Anonymousreply 390October 22, 2021 1:11 PM

R387 that is the smartest post I have read in days. Bravo.

by Anonymousreply 391October 22, 2021 1:14 PM

What a pointless tragedy.

On the bright side, at least this means he won't host SNL again for awhile.

by Anonymousreply 392October 22, 2021 1:18 PM

He just needs to retire now and take care of what are clearly deep seated personal issues.

by Anonymousreply 393October 22, 2021 1:20 PM

Bad karma sure likes to follow this guy....

by Anonymousreply 394October 22, 2021 1:27 PM

Why I Won’t Comment on Alec Baldwin

by Anonymousreply 395October 22, 2021 1:30 PM

R389 They could probably get more money if they planned for a serious litigation rather than a settlement. But litigation can truly poison your life. It’s like a mirage in the desert, constantly hearing talented attorneys tell the story of how wronged you have been; it becomes addictive. If it was my family that just lost a child/wife/mother I would tell them not to lose the next few years to that kind of stress, anger, and reliving the tragedy. Some families will feel guilty for choosing to walk away and lose out on money or (worse) not forcing as much punishment as possible on the people involved who made mistakes. But I think choosing peace even at that cost, getting to let your loved ones memory rest, being able to take the time for the family to heal, all of that is worth losing out on some money.

by Anonymousreply 396October 22, 2021 1:33 PM

There are some pictures of him after the incident here. More than just his back end.

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by Anonymousreply 397October 22, 2021 1:34 PM

Uhhh, R108/dipshit, I’m nobody’s troll, much less Matthew Broderick’s. I was merely pointing out that he’s responsible for two deaths which is what Baldwin could be facing.

And it WASN’T just an “accident.” Broderick had no business driving on roads in Ireland when he wasn’t accustomed to it.

by Anonymousreply 398October 22, 2021 1:35 PM

Oh, I can't agree with that, R398. Accidents happen. And there are different rules if you're American and driving overseas. It is not our fault if they don't drive on the right side of the road in their own country.

by Anonymousreply 399October 22, 2021 1:50 PM

Everything I read so far suggests he was in character, they were prepping for or shooting a scene - and that's according to investigators. He wouldn't have had control or responsibility for his props. What could he be charged with other than being an obnoxious asshole for the past three or four decades? A charge which obviously everyone would support.

by Anonymousreply 400October 22, 2021 1:52 PM

R329, CNN has covered this story several times. It was first reported by Don Lemon last night, and then John Berman did a segment on it this morning.

by Anonymousreply 401October 22, 2021 2:02 PM

Told ya.

by Anonymousreply 402October 22, 2021 2:03 PM

How are Jensen Ackles and Travis Fimmel still getting work?

by Anonymousreply 403October 22, 2021 2:03 PM

Was Don breathlessly dramatic?

by Anonymousreply 404October 22, 2021 2:04 PM

some really stupid cunts in this thread. Just because they don't like this cunt, they're automatically a trump supporter?!

He isn't a nice person.

by Anonymousreply 405October 22, 2021 2:04 PM

Shoulda yooshed blanksh.

by Anonymousreply 406October 22, 2021 2:06 PM

Won't somebody please think of my children.

by Anonymousreply 407October 22, 2021 2:07 PM

There's more to this story.

by Anonymousreply 408October 22, 2021 2:07 PM

If anybody's wondering, I'm OK.

But I am definitely writing the location manager.

by Anonymousreply 409October 22, 2021 2:08 PM

That tweet of Alex's from 2017 posted upthread is eerie and unfortunate. Even weirder - someone at the time replied "Shut up, stupid," to which he inexplicably replied, "Watch this." Wtf!

Ugh, never tweet.

by Anonymousreply 410October 22, 2021 2:08 PM

It happened something like this.

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by Anonymousreply 411October 22, 2021 2:09 PM

It happens in fiction too, Troy is bumped off with a prop gun. The only surviving star is Barbara Rush, 94.

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by Anonymousreply 412October 22, 2021 2:12 PM

If he were alive today, Jon Erik Hexum would be triggered.

by Anonymousreply 413October 22, 2021 2:13 PM

Whereas Alec was just trigger happy.

by Anonymousreply 414October 22, 2021 2:14 PM

Baldwin is a pig of the lowest order.

by Anonymousreply 415October 22, 2021 2:15 PM

Apparently it runs in the family.

by Anonymousreply 416October 22, 2021 2:15 PM

I’m sure I’m not the first to come up with this conspiracy theory: what if a MAGA on the set swapped out blanks for real bullets to destroy Baldwin?

As conspiracy theories go, not too far fetched.

by Anonymousreply 417October 22, 2021 2:19 PM

"I’m sure I’m not the first to come up with this conspiracy theory: what if a MAGA on the set swapped out blanks for real bullets to destroy Baldwin?"

I was totally thinking the same thing on the treadmill this morning, watching CNN at my gym. Not too far fetched at all IMO.

by Anonymousreply 418October 22, 2021 2:22 PM

they were BLANKS. learn to read stupid cunts.

by Anonymousreply 419October 22, 2021 2:22 PM

Could not have said it better myself, r396.

by Anonymousreply 420October 22, 2021 2:23 PM

Great post, R152.

When the union crew walked over safety they just forged on ahead?

by Anonymousreply 421October 22, 2021 2:29 PM

what are they saying about the woman? I read that she was only 42 and from Ukraine.

by Anonymousreply 422October 22, 2021 2:30 PM

Don’t all you Trumpers have Covid to catch? Begone, before someone drops houses on all of you.

by Anonymousreply 423October 22, 2021 2:30 PM

Alec here. To those pointing out that there are a lot of Trumpers in this thread, thanks. A miserable asshole like me never had a better group of friends than you fags.

by Anonymousreply 424October 22, 2021 2:34 PM

Biebs was so looking forward to sitting on Alec’s Secret Santa 🎅🏻 beer can this year

by Anonymousreply 425October 22, 2021 2:34 PM

OMG R424 is REALLY HIM!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 426October 22, 2021 2:36 PM

Alec has another apt close by where he goes to escape that wonderful family of his.

by Anonymousreply 427October 22, 2021 2:37 PM

The prop master on this production should start preparing for their next career. That's who will ultimately take all the blame.

by Anonymousreply 428October 22, 2021 2:37 PM

Been there done that.

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by Anonymousreply 429October 22, 2021 2:37 PM

[quote]¿Asesinato? ¡Dios mío! ¡La prensa!


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by Anonymousreply 430October 22, 2021 2:38 PM

R414...He does have a trigger temper..

by Anonymousreply 431October 22, 2021 2:41 PM

Why was Baldwin shooting at the Cinemaphotographer? Was she unable to hide his multiple chins?

by Anonymousreply 432October 22, 2021 2:43 PM

One person shot could be an accident?. But TWO? Really?

by Anonymousreply 433October 22, 2021 2:45 PM

The bulletin went through the woman killed and into the man injured, as stated many times already in this thread.

Because we don’t know how Alec was aiming the gun, there’s no sense trying to figure out how they were positioned for that to happen.

by Anonymousreply 434October 22, 2021 2:48 PM

It's a family "thing".

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by Anonymousreply 435October 22, 2021 2:48 PM

I am nothing if not efficient.

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by Anonymousreply 436October 22, 2021 2:48 PM

[quote]According to the Times, the movie is ABOUT someone fleeing after accidentally shooting someone.

So this marketing stunt is working out well for them.

by Anonymousreply 437October 22, 2021 2:48 PM

[quote]The prop master on this production should start preparing for their next career.

Surgical removal of his teeth is as good a start as any.

by Anonymousreply 438October 22, 2021 2:49 PM

R434 Alec's publicist working overtime.

by Anonymousreply 439October 22, 2021 2:49 PM

If I'd been cast I could have prevented this.

by Anonymousreply 440October 22, 2021 2:50 PM

gee, I wonder if they are testing him for drugs and booze?

by Anonymousreply 441October 22, 2021 2:50 PM

R434, I had no idea a bulletin was involved.

by Anonymousreply 442October 22, 2021 2:51 PM

Baldwin says. ' Why was I given a HOT GUN ( loaded with live amo)? I've never been given a hot gun in my life!"

by Anonymousreply 443October 22, 2021 2:56 PM

FATAL BULLETIN: The Ginny From Billing Story

by Anonymousreply 444October 22, 2021 2:56 PM

You’re the producer, Alec r443. Did you fund a robust prop handling program?

by Anonymousreply 445October 22, 2021 2:58 PM

I wouldn't trust anything he says. this man is an addict and we all know addicts lie

by Anonymousreply 446October 22, 2021 2:58 PM

You've all met someone like him before in real life. It's never their fault, it's always someone else's fault...they love to shift blame.

by Anonymousreply 447October 22, 2021 3:00 PM

After the tragic death of actor Jon Eric Hexum in 1985. and Brandon Lee in 1993. Union rules require an accredited fire arms expert bee on set whenever actors are given fire arms to use during a scene. The Propmaster must check these guns before and after they are given to the actors. Baldwin was shooting on a bargain basement film budgeted at only 6 million. Obviously they were cutting corners in violation of IER rules. Baldwin was not only in cast he was a producer and should be held responsible for this recklessness.

by Anonymousreply 448October 22, 2021 3:02 PM

Alec's always had a hearty level of support on DL through every one of his scandals, but the level of his support on this one is disgusting.

It's 2021, has no one heard of CGI? Even on cheapie movie like this one, the production costs would have been tiny compared to innumerable costs from this tragedy

by Anonymousreply 449October 22, 2021 3:03 PM

From Harvey at TMZ. They have a good track record with these stories:

EXCLUSIVE It was one bullet that discharged from the prop gun on the Santa Fe movie “Rust” and killed the director of photography and wounded the movie’s director.

An eyewitness on set tells this column that the bullet went straight through the body of DP Halyna Hutchins and into the clavicle of the film’s director Joel Souza.

Very quickly the set was locked down. Ambulance and helicopters arrived. Hutchins and Souza were sent straight to the hospital. Hutchins died en route in a helicopter.

On the ground, Baldwin was in shock but composed. He kept asking why he was handed a “hot gun.” Our eyewitness said Baldwin kept saying “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun.”

“A hot gun” means a gun with real ammunition.

Baldwin, not knowing the fate of the victims, was taken immediately to the hospital. “He had no idea how badly they were hurt or Halyna was dead.”

“Rust” is a Tier 1 one movie, meaning it was being produced for under $6 million. Our source says: “They had safety meetings every day but it was a Tier I movie, so they probably didn’t have more than 1 prop person.” According to the imdb, there was one key medic on the staff and two stunt people.

Whatever happened on the set, Alec Baldwin certainly didn’t intend for this outcome. And “Rust” is done. Sources say the production has been halted but as with the movie about Gregg Allman’s life, in which a crew member was killed because of negligence, lawsuits will now override any chance to that movie being finished.





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by Anonymousreply 450October 22, 2021 3:05 PM

I read that it was a Tier 1 movie...meaning that the budget was 6 million, and probably had only one prop person on the set....according to the article @R436.

by Anonymousreply 451October 22, 2021 3:06 PM

R450 Everything always leads back to Cher.

by Anonymousreply 452October 22, 2021 3:10 PM

If there is audio and video of the shooting, that will be really important. If the cameras were not running, then is will be harder to understand exactly what happened. I hope it wasn’t horseplay. It’s just all around awful and sad and shocking. I feel so sorry for that poor cinematographer’s family.

by Anonymousreply 453October 22, 2021 3:14 PM

Alec's PR @ R258.

If the union crew walked out the day before over safety concerns re: gun handling on set he at minimum, as the producer, is likely to pay out $$$$.

Maybe the Hamptons life with endless children is gonna seem more expensive now, selling the family "brand" of "Baldwinitos" and the constant references to "professional actor Alec Baldwin" as they pimp the 8 year old daughter in bathtub shots and a bikini is even more distasteful now. Maybe H can put her tits and lingerie away for a few days out of respect for the dead. The fetishists she aims to please can go without.

by Anonymousreply 454October 22, 2021 3:17 PM

Who was Halyna Hutchins? Tributes paid to director of photography killed by prop gun

(CNN)The film industry has been left shocked and in mourning after cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was killed on set when actor and producer Alec Baldwin discharged a prop firearm. Hutchins, who was 42, was director of photography for Baldwin's latest movie, "Rust," a Western which was being filmed in New Mexico and stars Baldwin, Travis Fimmel and Jensen Ackles. According to law enforcement statements provided to CNN, Hutchins was shot around 1:50 p.m. Thursday local time and was airlifted to hospital but died of her injuries.

She worked on movies including "Archenemy," starring Joe Manganiello, which was released last year, and was named a rising star by American Cinematographer magazine in 2019.

According to her website, Hutchins was raised at a Soviet military base in the Arctic Circle and initially studied as a journalist, graduating from Kyiv National University with a degree in international journalism, before going on to work on documentary productions across Europe and switching to film. On her Instagram page, she described herself as a "Restless Dreamer. Adrenaline junkie. Cinematographer" and shared photos of the "Rust" set.

Her final post, on Wednesday, showed a video of her riding on horseback in New Mexico.

Film director James Cullen Bressack commented on her post to say: "I will miss you my friend.... This is devastating." Other directors paid tribute to Hutchins. "Archenemy" director Adam Egypt Mortimer said: "I'm so sad about losing Halyna. And so infuriated that this could happen on a set. She was a brilliant talent who was absolutely committed to art and to film." He said in a further tweet she had "a brilliant mind." AFI Conservatory, a film school which is part of the American Film Institute, tweeted Friday: "As is profoundly true in the art of cinematography, words alone cannot capture the loss of one so dear to the AFI community. At AFI, we pledge to see that Halyna Hutchins will live on in the spirit of all who strive to see their dreams realized in stories well told."

A talented woman in a male-dominated industry Hutchins' achievements as a cinematographer were notable in an industry dominated by men. Casting director, producer and writer Sidra Smith posted on Instagram that she was left "devastated" by the news about Hutchins, with whom she worked on the TV mini-series "A Luv Tale." "It's hard out here for women cinematographers and this was a HUGE opportunity for her. She was so young and so talented. Halyna and I spent so much time together. She was so beautifully gracious and words cannot express how supportive she was to me," Smith wrote. "God bless her beautiful heart and soul."

Director Joel Souza, 48, was also injured in the incident and taken to Christus St. Vincent's Regional Medical Center for care. Baldwin was photographed looking distraught in the parking lot outside the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office on Thursday after being questioned.

Investigations remain ongoing, with many people asking how such a tragedy could happen on a film set -- 28 years after Bruce Lee's son Brandon Lee was accidentally killed on set by a firearm. A spokesperson for the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Ukraine's consulate general in San Francisco was cooperating with US law enforcement representatives as they investigate and was reaching out to Hutchins' relatives "in order to provide the necessary consular and legal assistance."

Born in Ukraine, Hutchins lived in Los Angeles and graduated from the American Film Institute in 2015. She was credited with involvement in the production of 49 film, TV and video titles during her career, according to IMDB.

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by Anonymousreply 455October 22, 2021 3:21 PM

"Alec's always had a hearty level of support on DL through every one of his scandals"

When, r449???

by Anonymousreply 456October 22, 2021 3:23 PM

Talking to my friends who work on sets I have learned a lot about "blanks" and prop guns.. etc...

What a horrible tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 457October 22, 2021 3:24 PM

Do cinematographers make a lot of money? A friend of a friend worked on many TV/netflix shows as one.

by Anonymousreply 458October 22, 2021 3:24 PM

I wonder if the strikes affected crew shortage and they were understaffed.

by Anonymousreply 459October 22, 2021 3:26 PM

A friend of a friend—-always the case. Always the case…on Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 460October 22, 2021 3:27 PM

Halyna Hutchins: Film world mourns 'incredible artist' and seeks answers

Halyna Hutchins, the cinematographer who died when actor Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun on a film set, has been remembered as "an incredible artist".

Hutchins had been working as director of photography on the set of Rust.

American Cinematographer magazine had named her one of its rising stars in 2019, and she previously worked on 2020 independent superhero film Archenemy.

Archenemy director Adam Egypt Mortimer told BBC News the fact she had died on a set was "really unbelievable".

He said: "Halyna was an incredible artist who was just starting a career I think people were really starting to notice.

"The fact that she would be killed on a set in an accident like this is unfathomable. It just seems inconceivable."

Mortimer added: "The level of protocol and safety that we tend to have on any production of any size, when you get down to handling weapons, guns, it's so involved that the fact that a gun went off and killed Halyna is both shocking from an industry point of view and just absolutely tragic from the point of view of knowing this amazing artist who suddenly not with us."

He talked about her "integrity of wanting to make cinema" and that he had loved seeing her "grow as an artist".

Fellow cinematographer Catherine Goldschmidt described Hutchins as "lovely, warm, funny, charming, outgoing", and praised her for being "so talented".

"What's so tragic is she's made beautiful films already but when you think about what was ahead of her, that is also so sad," she told BBC News.

"She was also a mum, which I think is very difficult," Goldschmidt added. "When I first met her I remember being really impressed, shocked even that this beautiful, creative, outgoing, enthusiastic talented cinematographer also is raising the child.

"I think for women in this industry it is very difficult. So I was very impressed that she was able to do that."

Alex Fedosov, another Ukrainian film-maker working Hollywood, said Hutchins was "rising fast in her career" and was "an artist and a visionary".

"She was so talented, a photography director with her own vision, her own strong ideas," he told BBC News Ukrainian.

"When we worked together on set, I was assistant director, I would rush her and say, 'Hurry up, we need to film this'. She would smile calmly but carry on in her own rhythm because she knew what she wanted to achieve."

Standards of safety

Fedosov added Hutchins was a "wonderful mother, first and foremost".

He also questioned how her death could have happened, saying: "Standards of safety in the US are very high. There is always an expert on set. There are always checks ahead of filming. Blanks are used sometimes to achieve a better effect on camera but it is always done with high degree of safety."

James Gunn, director of The Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy, said: "My greatest fear is that someone will be fatally hurt on one of my sets. I pray this will never happen. My heart goes out to all of those affected by the tragedy today on Rust, especially Halyna Hutchins and her family."

Director and cinematographer Elle Schneider wrote a thread on Twitter about the death of her "friend and rockstar cinematographer".

'Horrific loss'

"I don't have words to describe this tragedy. I want answers. I want her family to somehow find peace among this horrific, horrific loss," she said.

"Women cinematographers have historically been kept from genre film, and it seems especially cruel that one of the rising stars who was able to break through had her life cut short on the kind of project we've been fighting for."

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by Anonymousreply 461October 22, 2021 3:28 PM

Libtard bitch shoots like a 5yo girl.

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by Anonymousreply 462October 22, 2021 3:28 PM

Magat f-ggots!!! Yas!!!

by Anonymousreply 463October 22, 2021 3:29 PM

ALLEDEDLY the union crew walked off over a pay dispute and so the person who was supposed to be in charge of the antique gun was inexperienced. Alec is a producer and he will be in trouble for this. Allegedly the higher ups are trying to prevent this from getting out

by Anonymousreply 464October 22, 2021 3:29 PM

Damn, she has a kid! I'm sure someone will start a go fund me for the poor kid.


by Anonymousreply 465October 22, 2021 3:30 PM

Alec better start hiding his assets...he's gonna be filing for bankruptcy in 3,2,1....

by Anonymousreply 466October 22, 2021 3:31 PM

I know I'll get attacked for this and I'm not a believer in conspiracy theories, but, I really do think that some closet Trump supporter with a grudge against Alec for his portrayal of Trump and his outspoken hatred for the ex-President, messed with the prop gun.

by Anonymousreply 467October 22, 2021 3:31 PM

May we have a copy of the video?

by Anonymousreply 468October 22, 2021 3:32 PM

[quote] but, I really do think that some closet Trump supporter with a grudge against Alec for his portrayal of Trump and his outspoken hatred for the ex-President, messed with the prop gun.


by Anonymousreply 469October 22, 2021 3:34 PM

Regardless of your politics, Baldwin has a rep as a homophobic asshole with a nasty temper. Perhaps it comes from having to suck off all those guys when he was a cigarette boy at Studio 54.

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by Anonymousreply 470October 22, 2021 3:37 PM

I'm happy to take over the directing of the film.

by Anonymousreply 471October 22, 2021 3:37 PM

The liberal media will wrap their collective arms around Alec and protect and forgive him for this.

In due time, we will see him participate in a gut wrenching, tearful interview with a supporting ally like Gayle King.

by Anonymousreply 472October 22, 2021 3:38 PM

His blood sacrifice was due.

by Anonymousreply 473October 22, 2021 3:38 PM

This is interesting.

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by Anonymousreply 474October 22, 2021 3:44 PM


by Anonymousreply 475October 22, 2021 3:46 PM

Non Union Crew

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by Anonymousreply 476October 22, 2021 3:47 PM

Release the Panthers!!

by Anonymousreply 477October 22, 2021 3:47 PM

this is why you always support Unions. they know what they are doing!

by Anonymousreply 478October 22, 2021 3:49 PM

R472 Forgive him for what? There is nothing to forgive when s person doesn't do anything wrong

by Anonymousreply 479October 22, 2021 3:50 PM

Within minutes, R469 has already proved me right that I'd be attacked for what I posted, so what else do you think I'm right about?

by Anonymousreply 480October 22, 2021 3:50 PM

Baldwin was a producer, so he was the boss and is responsible just like any CEO.

Heavy is the head

by Anonymousreply 481October 22, 2021 3:53 PM

R474 Ugh that has to be a spoof or fake account. There would be no way forward for anyone if any of that were true at all.

by Anonymousreply 482October 22, 2021 3:53 PM

r456, the people on here who hate Baldwin think any post that doesn't call for his execution is "hearty support."

by Anonymousreply 483October 22, 2021 3:58 PM

R479, Go tell that to the dead woman's child.

by Anonymousreply 484October 22, 2021 4:00 PM

[quote]Side note, and for karma: Any one of us could accidentally hit a pedestrian on our way to/from home. The irony is that Alec was both starring in and producing this film

For those who truly believe in karma, which is none of you, karma for someone doesn't involve killing or harming others. That's not how it works.

Baldwin is a disaster magnet with a poor reputation, this isn't karma.

by Anonymousreply 485October 22, 2021 4:00 PM

r474 is posting a fake article. Literally, it's something some 4channer made up and posted to /pol/, and that Twitter guy apparently wrote it up in a fake article snippet.

by Anonymousreply 486October 22, 2021 4:02 PM

If union crew walked over gun safety, as the producer, Baldwin could not claim ignorance.

by Anonymousreply 487October 22, 2021 4:03 PM

To combat r474's fucking lying bullshit post:

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by Anonymousreply 488October 22, 2021 4:03 PM

R484 How is that his fault?

by Anonymousreply 489October 22, 2021 4:05 PM

Hmm, apparently Baldwin has a lot of MAGA haters.

by Anonymousreply 490October 22, 2021 4:06 PM

Basics of gun safety were clearly not followed. Even after unionized crew had walked off over concerns re: handling of guns on set. Baldwin as a producer was on notice that there were concerns re: gun safety.

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by Anonymousreply 491October 22, 2021 4:08 PM

R489 = Arlene Francis

"Arlene Francis Hurt in Crash; Woman in Second Auto Killed; 4 Others Injured in Accident on Northern State Parkway --Actress Alone in Car"

by Anonymousreply 492October 22, 2021 4:10 PM

Typical celeb mentality. I'm fucking special, rules and laws don't apply to me! I'm better than that!

by Anonymousreply 493October 22, 2021 4:11 PM

R490 and a lot of PR shills on DL

by Anonymousreply 494October 22, 2021 4:11 PM

Only idiots claim that someone who disagrees with them is secret paid PR, r494.

by Anonymousreply 495October 22, 2021 4:12 PM

[quote] apparently Baldwin has a lot of MAGA haters.

Yes, on Twitter and sadly at DL.

Forgive me if I’m skeptical about all the posts here lambasting him for yelling at his daughter. This is DL, we fucking hate kids!

When did all these right-wingers show up?

by Anonymousreply 496October 22, 2021 4:12 PM

They've been a lot more open and blatant - always the first few posts in any new thread. I'm assuming they're all unemployed after refusing to get vaccinated.

Also his daughter likely is a thoughtless little pig.

by Anonymousreply 497October 22, 2021 4:15 PM

R496, Let's not forget the parking space incident.

by Anonymousreply 498October 22, 2021 4:17 PM

How was Angela Lansbury not injured on the set of Bedknobs and Broomsticks? It's a miracle that she survived that shoot when you think about it.

by Anonymousreply 499October 22, 2021 4:17 PM

Honestly, I feel terrible for him, and most of all, for the deceased.

by Anonymousreply 500October 22, 2021 4:17 PM

I can understand the first shot. But then he kept firing?

by Anonymousreply 501October 22, 2021 4:18 PM

Kim Basinger is feeling vindicated today.

by Anonymousreply 502October 22, 2021 4:20 PM

According to Variety r501, a single bullet reached both of them.

by Anonymousreply 503October 22, 2021 4:20 PM

Was he "Method" acting?

by Anonymousreply 504October 22, 2021 4:21 PM

R498, Those are the incidents that you know about. I bet there are countless encounters with others.

This guy is just a disgusting pig, just like his daughter, have you seen her? lots of nasty tats.

by Anonymousreply 505October 22, 2021 4:24 PM

r505 MILLIONS of incidents in fact. I have reason to believe he was responsible for the Challenger explosion as well.

by Anonymousreply 506October 22, 2021 4:25 PM

If Alec had paid half of what he's paying his PR shill team (who are really working overtime here) on more gun safety measures on his movie, this would have never happened

by Anonymousreply 507October 22, 2021 4:26 PM

r507 it's not "his" movie, he's just one person among many there. These are the production companies involved:

El Dorado Pictures

Cavalry Media

Thomasville Pictures

Brittany House Pictures

Short Porch Pictures

by Anonymousreply 508October 22, 2021 4:31 PM

R167–toopay?? Please tell me that’s a joke! Otherwise, oh, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 509October 22, 2021 4:35 PM

The first thing in my mind was he did it on purpose. Did they say or due something that brought out his anger? What about the magic bullet? Are his media crying pics fake? Remember he's an actor with years of experience. Then his famous tweet about the cop in 2017, outspoken star actor tweeted: "I wonder how it must feel to wrongfully kill someone." Now he knows.


by Anonymousreply 510October 22, 2021 4:36 PM

The priorities of a narcissist, R507.

Unionized crew walked over safety concerns re: guns and this happens the next day. And the response is to go to crisis PR and to call anyone critical of AB a Trumpist.

by Anonymousreply 511October 22, 2021 4:37 PM

so how many Tiers are there? if this is Tier 1?

by Anonymousreply 512October 22, 2021 4:39 PM

Alec's upcoming testimony at the inquest.

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by Anonymousreply 513October 22, 2021 4:40 PM

Damn, I wonder if that prop master (non-union) is suicidal right now. Definitely needs a shrink stat.

by Anonymousreply 514October 22, 2021 4:42 PM

The article on Deadline indicated the shot was from about 20 feet away, so I don't think it was a blank in the gun. It went through the cinematographer's stomach, through her body, and hit the director behind her, in his clavicle. It looks as if there was a real bullet in the gun.

by Anonymousreply 515October 22, 2021 4:46 PM

His PR is tweeting now

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by Anonymousreply 516October 22, 2021 4:47 PM

why would there be a real bullet on set?

by Anonymousreply 517October 22, 2021 4:47 PM

^It also indicated that because it was a "low budget" movie, there was not an armorer on set, but only one prop person, and one medic.

by Anonymousreply 518October 22, 2021 4:48 PM

A prop master explains how a prop gun can be dangerous

A film crew member died and another was injured after actor Alec Baldwin discharged a prop firearm on the set of the movie "Rust" in New Mexico on Thursday, authorities said.

But how can a prop gun kill someone?

"Prop weapons do have a dangerous factor to them even though they're a lot safer than using a live firearm on set," says Joseph Fisher, a prop master who works on movie sets and has handled weapons in the military and with the NYPD. "Typical prop load will be about 25 to 50% of the gunpowder in an actual projectile load that would be used in a regular weapon." "Even though there is no actual physical projectile mounted on the cartridge, there will be gas, heat and air coming out of the weapon since there is gunpowder load present, "and those can cause physical injury within 25 to 50 feet, depending on the load," Fisher added."

Fisher said those on set "take extreme caution with any kind of weapons, whether they be prop guns, blank guns, and anything in between.

"Typically, we will do a safety brief with the cast and crew. We'll introduce the weapon to the cast and crew, we'll let them examine it, we'll explain the safety precautions that go with each type of prop weapon," he told CNN.

In a scene involving prop guns, "we do safety distances, we try to keep the actors slightly misaligned with the weapon, so that if the person firing the weapon is firing straight this way, the other actor in frame is just slightly off," Fisher explained.

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by Anonymousreply 519October 22, 2021 4:51 PM

Daily Mail is also saying now that the gun had live ammunition in it, not blanks.

by Anonymousreply 520October 22, 2021 4:52 PM

Family of "The Crow" actor Brandon Lee, who died in 1993 prop gun shooting, offers condolences

From CNN’s Stephanie Elam

The family of Brandon Lee has tweeted a statement in the wake of yesterday’s incident on a New Mexico film set that claimed the life of a director of photography and injured the film’s director.

“Our hearts go out to the family of Halyna Hutchins and to Joel Souza and all involved in the incident on “Rust”. No one should ever be killed by a gun on a film set. Period,” the tweet posted to Brandon Bruce Lee’s verified account, run by the late actor’s sister, Shannon Lee, said.

Brandon Lee died after an incident involving a prop gun on the set of the movie “The Crow” in 1993.

by Anonymousreply 521October 22, 2021 4:53 PM

I will wait for the official report.

by Anonymousreply 522October 22, 2021 4:54 PM

r522 I think you'll find that many posters in this thread have already pegged Baldwin for all the unsolved murders that happened near his home since 1993.

by Anonymousreply 523October 22, 2021 4:55 PM

^Like everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 524October 22, 2021 4:55 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Grieving husband of Halyna Hutchins says he has spoken to Alec Baldwin who is being 'very supportive' after the actor accidentally shot the cinematographer dead in movie-set tragedy

The widower of the cinematographer shot and killed by Alec Baldwin in a freak movie-set accident has revealed the distraught actor is being 'very supportive.'

Halyna Hutchins, 42, died shortly after being shot by Baldwin around 1.50pm Thursday at Bonanza Creek Ranch, near the city of Santa Fe in New Mexico, where they were filming the movie Rust.

Halyna's husband Matthew, a lawyer with whom she shares an eight-year-old son, told DailyMail.com on Friday: 'I have spoken with Alec Baldwin and he is being very supportive.'

Police have disclosed few details about the shooting, saying only that a 'projectile' was fired by a 'prop gun' and they are investigating. A spokesman for Baldwin last night issued a statement saying only blanks were used.

In two tweets on Friday, Baldwin said: 'There are no words to convey my shock and sadness regarding the tragic accident that took the life of Halyna Hutchins, a wife, mother and deeply admired colleague of ours.

'I'm fully cooperating with the police investigation to address how this tragedy occurred and I am in touch with her husband, offering my support to him and his family.

'My heart is broken for her husband, their son, and all who knew and loved Halyna.'

According to witnesses on-set, Baldwin was stunned after firing the fatal round and asked: 'Why was I handed a hot gun?'

A photo taken in the aftermath showed a clearly distressed Baldwin bent double in anguish at the side of a parking lot, while in another picture he appeared distraught as he spoke on the phone.

Born in Ukraine and raised on a Soviet military base 'surrounded by reindeer and nuclear submarines', Halyna, had trained as a journalist and spent time in Europe working on British documentaries before making the move to Los Angeles, where she had established her career - and started a family

Remembered by friends as a 'kind' and 'loving soul', Halyna lived in Venice Beach, California, with husband Matthew and their son Andros, known affectionately as her 'little man' and thought to be around nine years old.

'Halyna loved him so much and enjoyed watching him grow into the handsome boy he is today,' one friend wrote in a moving Instagram tribute. 'I know she is looking after him and Matt in this horribly scary time.'

Social media photos capture a playfulness and sense of adventure, with Halloween costume parties, road trips with friends and days out exploring all lit up by Halyna's smile.

She was also highly regarded by her peers and had been tipped as a 'rising star' by other cinematographers. 'She was somebody who was absolutely dedicated to art and integrity,' director, colleague and friend Adam Mortimer told GMB this morning. 'I can tell already she was going to be a genius.'

Baldwin, 62, was filming a scene for new film Rust when the gun went off, fatally wounding Hutchins and leaving writer-director Joel Souza, 48, injured.

Hutchins was rushed to the University of New Mexico Hospital in an air ambulance but was pronounced dead a short time after.

Souza was taken by ambulance to the Christus St Vincent Regional Medical Center. He has since been released although his exact condition is unclear.

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by Anonymousreply 525October 22, 2021 4:56 PM

Envío mi más sentido pésame.

by Anonymousreply 526October 22, 2021 4:56 PM
by Anonymousreply 527October 22, 2021 4:57 PM

Was someone trying to kill Alec? I'm thinking that bullet was intended for someone!

by Anonymousreply 528October 22, 2021 4:57 PM

That photo at R462 is very disturbing..

by Anonymousreply 529October 22, 2021 4:58 PM

Is he now considered more desirable by DL standards since he killed someone?

by Anonymousreply 530October 22, 2021 4:59 PM

[quote]possibly exacerbated by union employees having left the set and the remaining crew being expected to do more than usual

[quote]and the production's propmaster was not a member of Local 44.




by Anonymousreply 531October 22, 2021 4:59 PM

Y por favour maricons muy guapo, un poquito de dinero para mi pobre hijos? 😘

by Anonymousreply 532October 22, 2021 4:59 PM

I hope they had him do a breathalyzer test. And took some blood. Make sure the chain of custody is clean, or his attorneys will let him get away with it in any civil trial.

Of course he won't be prosecuted for anything: he's a VIP. And a centimillionaire.

by Anonymousreply 533October 22, 2021 5:02 PM

How in the hell does a gun containing real bullets end up as a movie prop? Either that isn't true, or something nefarious was afoot.

by Anonymousreply 534October 22, 2021 5:04 PM

This is nothing like causing a traffic accident. Prop guns are supposed to be safe

by Anonymousreply 535October 22, 2021 5:05 PM

R380 There is a difference between what you said (rational, reasonable speculation) and what the clear QAnon Trump loving idiots are saying.

by Anonymousreply 536October 22, 2021 5:07 PM

[quote]Is he now considered more desirable by DL standards since he killed someone?

R530, we have to see how a prison diet and the many facials he'll be receiving improves his appearance.

But we're not hopeful.

Plus, unless something else comes out, it's not first-degree-homicide first degree-homicide. No credit a involuntary manslaughter even though the projectile was a double tap. You should KNOW that.

by Anonymousreply 537October 22, 2021 5:07 PM

The production company needs to take responsibility for hiring Baldwin. A reasonable person would know that nothing good would come from it.

by Anonymousreply 538October 22, 2021 5:08 PM

Alec figured he already overpopulated the country with all those 7 fake-half-Spanish brats that it wouldn’t matter if he takes out one or two people.

by Anonymousreply 539October 22, 2021 5:09 PM

He should make that woman apologize for getting in the bullet’s way.

by Anonymousreply 540October 22, 2021 5:10 PM

What was on the cinematographer’s iPod?

by Anonymousreply 541October 22, 2021 5:15 PM

Real bullets are used for certain shots, r354. It's generally for situations where you want to see a bullet strike an inanimate object and don't want to use effects, because they're never convincing. For instance, when you see someone shoot cans off a fence, what you're seeing is one shot of the actor pretending to shoot, then a second shot of a can actually being hit by a sharpshooter hired for the production. When they shoot with live rounds, no one else is supposed to be on set, it's supposed to be just the minimum crew plus props and armorer and plenty of Perspex shields. Sometimes you'll see a behind-the-scenes shot of a cinematographer or grip or someone in a bulletproof vest, if they have to be within 50 feet of where the bullet is going to land.

There isn't any reason why there should have been live rounds when Baldwin was filming. Obviously there were no safety protocols set up for live rounds, and everyone was still on set.

They had security so I can't see how a Trump supporter could have sneaked on set and tampered with the gun. My guess is that the props guy was a local who hadn't worked on films before, which is why he wasn't union, and he mistakenly thought it was a day for shooting live rounds and didn't know enough to look around him and realize that couldn't have been true.

by Anonymousreply 542October 22, 2021 5:16 PM

How do you face someone after you’ve killed their loved one? My day isn’t great, but at least I don’t have THAT on my plate. Awful. I don’t believe it was intentional.

But why was there a live round in a prop gun? That boggles my mind.

by Anonymousreply 543October 22, 2021 5:16 PM

^Didn't bother to read the post just above yours, or was it a simultaneity?

by Anonymousreply 544October 22, 2021 5:18 PM

Back when Jimmy Cagney was making those gangster movies for Warner Brothers in the 1930s, they used to use real machine guns.

The director would tell Cagney where to stand and when to step back before the shooting started.

There was a scene where Cagney was at the corner of a brick building, looking around it toward the camera, and the machine gunner was supposed to clip the side of the brick edge with bullets. Cagney became wary and decided that he would not do it and looking at the scene as it appeared finally on film, it looks like they spliced the two bits (Cagney and the bullets) together from 2 different shots.. Cagney was correct. When the guy holding the tommy gun shot, Cagney would have been hit if he had been where he was expected to be.

I saw old Cagney talk about this on an interview.

The shot may be up on Youtube, but I don't remember which movie it was from.

by Anonymousreply 545October 22, 2021 5:20 PM

R517, there wouldn't be unless someone purposely handed Alec a real, loaded weapon instead of the prop gun.

As we have seen, there's alot of crazy, angry people out there who are looking for revenge on what they feel is a slight against their orange god.

by Anonymousreply 546October 22, 2021 5:22 PM

^Read R542, how about?

by Anonymousreply 547October 22, 2021 5:25 PM

I think everyone can agree that a long prison sentence for Baldwin would be good for society, although it really should be for all that he’s done and not just for this.

by Anonymousreply 548October 22, 2021 5:27 PM

Blood sacrifice / harvest moon is another theory kicking around on Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 549October 22, 2021 5:28 PM

Alec Baldwin makes first statement on New Mexico shooting

From CNN’s Chloe Melas, Sandra Gonzalez and Andy Rose

Alec Baldwin has made his first public statement since a fatal shooting on the set of his new film on Thursday.

"There are no words to convey my shock and sadness regarding the tragic accident that took the life of Halyna Hutchins, a wife, mother and deeply admired colleague of ours," Baldwin tweeted on Friday. "I'm fully cooperating with the police investigation to address how this tragedy occurred and I am in touch with her husband, offering my support to him and his family. My heart is broken for her husband, their son, and all who knew and loved Halyna."

The actor was in New Mexico filming his western film "Rust," which he's starring in and producing. He discharged a prop firearm on the set, which resulted in the death of Halyna Hutchins, 42, the film's director of photography.

The film’s director Joel Souza, 48, was also injured in the incident.

The incident happened at about 1:50 p.m. local time Thursday, investigators said. The Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office said the investigation "remains open and active" and no charges have been filed."

According to investigators, it appears that the scene being filmed involved the use of a prop firearm when it was discharged, a statement from law enforcement said. "Detectives are investigating how and what type of projectile was discharged."

This type of incident has happened before on sets. While filming the movie "The Crow" in 1993, actor Brandon Lee, the son of Bruce Lee, was killed when struck by a bullet from a gun that was supposed to have just blanks, but had a bullet lodged in the barrel.

Even blanks can be deadly if fired at very close range. In 1984, actor John-Erik Hexum was playing around with a gun on the set of "Cover Up: Golden Opportunity" and died after putting the gun to his head and pulling the trigger.

by Anonymousreply 550October 22, 2021 5:29 PM

The local union, whose members had walked off set the day before over gun safety concerns, is the source of the info that it was a live round.

Was Baldwin, the producer, too cheap to run a safe set? The walk off certainly put him on notice re: safety.

by Anonymousreply 551October 22, 2021 5:30 PM

I see Alec's attorney told him to not say he was sorry.

by Anonymousreply 552October 22, 2021 5:32 PM

This tragedy makes Trump's public murder boast even more disgusting. Baldwin will clearly suffer for this till the end of his days. Trump saw his fantasy as validating his popularity: pure sociopathy.

It's beyond weird given events that Baldwin impersonated Trump during the latter's crass pomp. Plenty of talk here about karma for Baldwin. Karma's taking its time for DJT.

by Anonymousreply 553October 22, 2021 5:33 PM

Isn't New Mexico a blue state? Don't think this is a set up. Really sad situation and if the producers were too cheap to adhere to proper safety standards then they should pay big time and maybe even jail time.

by Anonymousreply 554October 22, 2021 5:34 PM

R546 and others who think that for some reason, a crazy Trumper singled out Baldwin among all the other Hollywood celebs who hated Trump: Here's a puzzle for you.

Those idiot MAGAts, who simultaneously are clever enough to arrange a murder that would have stumped Columbo, put a loaded gun into Baldwin's hand and vanished.

But look at the photo below, taken on the set not long before the shooting. There's apparently a scene where Baldwin's character gets gut-shot. Wouldn't this Trumptard conspiracy have worked better if they'd put the live ammo in the gun that was fired AT Baldwin, instead of BY Baldwin?

Or are the conspiring Trump-hordes -- they're everywhere -- just smart enough to get live ammo onto a closed set, but not quite smart enough to get it into the right gun?

You can ask them yourself, because there's a Trumper under your bed, right now, waiting to kill you because you spoke ill of his Orange God!

by Anonymousreply 555October 22, 2021 5:34 PM

Union representing entertainment workers says it's "heartbroken and devastated" over Hutchins death

From CNN’s Kay Jones and Eric Fiegel

The union that represents entertainment workers said it is “heartbroken and devastated” to learn of the death of one of its members, Halyna Hutchins.

“Our entire alliance mourns this unspeakable loss with Halyna’s family, friends, and the Rust crew,” according to a statement from the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, Moving Picture Technicians, Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States, Its Territories and Canada (IATSE).

IATSE also says that it’s activating their partnerships to provide support and resources to those who may need it.

“Creating a culture of safety requires relentless vigilance from every one of us, day in and day out. Please, if you see something, say something,” the statement said.

It also asked that anyone who feels unsafe on set to reach out through their safety hotline or their safety info app.

Hutchins was killed on Thursday after a prop firearm was discharged on the set of the movie "Rust."

by Anonymousreply 556October 22, 2021 5:35 PM

This is not a thread about Trump, go away Baldwin cleaners.

His "support" for the widower and kid who lost his mom is a craven attempt to save his image and make them more amenable to settling a lawsuit.

Had he, as producer, chosen to run a safe set that adhered to normal gun safety protocols, that poor woman would be alive today.

Baldwin was a producer, not just an actor on this set.

by Anonymousreply 557October 22, 2021 5:35 PM

[quote]Hutchins was born in Ukraine in 1979 and grew up on a Soviet military base in the Arctic Circle. Her website said she spent her upbringing "surrounded by reindeer and nuclear submarines".

From the BBC article.

by Anonymousreply 558October 22, 2021 5:35 PM

Here's the photo:

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by Anonymousreply 559October 22, 2021 5:35 PM

R450’s cut and paste skills suck donkey dick.

by Anonymousreply 560October 22, 2021 5:36 PM

I'm surprised Trump hasn't yet issued a statement reveling in Baldwin's situation.

by Anonymousreply 561October 22, 2021 5:36 PM

[443] why was he pointing the gun at them and how thw hell does a gun go off accidently ? Ans: you PULL THE TRIGGER

by Anonymousreply 562October 22, 2021 5:36 PM

Her husband is a LAWYER!!!

He's gonna be be living in the poor house for the rest of his life.

by Anonymousreply 563October 22, 2021 5:37 PM

Alec Baldwin is a spree killer mass shooter and fat!

by Anonymousreply 564October 22, 2021 5:37 PM

Photo of the Propmaster released.

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by Anonymousreply 565October 22, 2021 5:39 PM

If that was a real bullet, it's not a stretch at all to believe Alec was set up by a demented sociopath. He certainly seems to have a lot of haters, based on the comments above.

by Anonymousreply 566October 22, 2021 5:41 PM

[quote]On the ground, Baldwin was in shock but composed. He kept asking why he was handed a “hot gun.” Our eyewitness said Baldwin kept saying “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun.”

These are the words of an actor whose only responsibility is to do and stand and say where and what he’s told to do and stand and say — the words of an actor covering his ass — NOT the words of a responsible producer.

Granted, Baldwin is a creative producer not a line producer, but still, even as an actor, you take responsibility for paying attention to a gun every time it is returned to your hand.

You ask to be shown the gun is unloaded if you’re about to rehearse and to be shown the gun is loaded with blanks if you’re about to shoot the scene.

ESPECIALLY if EVERYONE on set is aware the union crew walked because of pay or safety or for whatever reason THE DAY BEFORE — AND the person handing you the gun is non-union.

by Anonymousreply 567October 22, 2021 5:42 PM

Cast and crew all get "I Survived 'Rust' and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt" t-shirts.

by Anonymousreply 568October 22, 2021 5:43 PM

They shouldn't have allowed Alec to get shitfaced during filming...

by Anonymousreply 569October 22, 2021 5:44 PM

I feel sorry for Baldwin, this will haunt him for the rest of his life.

by Anonymousreply 570October 22, 2021 5:45 PM

Not the cinematographer r568…

by Anonymousreply 571October 22, 2021 5:45 PM

[quote]Wouldn't this Trumptard conspiracy have worked better if they'd put the live ammo in the gun that was fired AT Baldwin, instead of BY Baldwin?

Yeah, very true. Plus there were TWO big mistakes made here: loading the gun with live bullets AND pointing the gun at people. There's no way someone who planted the bullets could have expected Baldwin to point the gun at people, you just don't do that on set.

by Anonymousreply 572October 22, 2021 5:45 PM

Wonder how much longer Hilarious will hang around....

by Anonymousreply 573October 22, 2021 5:46 PM

He was so wasted he thought the cinematographer was his daughter.

by Anonymousreply 574October 22, 2021 5:47 PM

The union quit the day before? One of them left a real bullet.


by Anonymousreply 575October 22, 2021 5:47 PM

R572, that's the weird part of all this. I can't think of any circumstance whatsoever where you would point a prop gun at a cinematographer, director, or any other crew member other than a stunt person, and then pull the trigger.

Unless you were fucking around in a way that was very stupid and unsafe.

I don't own a gun, have never fired a gun, and don't give a shit about guns, but even I know: You never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot.

by Anonymousreply 576October 22, 2021 5:49 PM

I've heard of advance publicity but this is a bit much.

by Anonymousreply 577October 22, 2021 5:50 PM

[quote] His "support" for the widower and kid who lost his mom is a craven attempt to save his image and make them more amenable to settling a lawsuit.

If he sends support, it's an attempt to save his image. If he doesn't, he's a piece of scum who cares about no one.

The haters in here are just loony. DL is filled with crazy people nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 578October 22, 2021 5:54 PM

Exactly, R567.

Completely avoidable tragedy.

There may not be video, one rumor is it was during a rehearsal.

Maybe Hilarious might want to stop pumping out kids if the money train just took such a hit. And the "family" branding needs a rest too. Alec is trying to hide behind his 8 year old to deflect from his own recklessness.

He was a PRODUCER not just an actor. If the union workers walked off over safety, practices should have been changed. Now a woman is dead and a little kid lost his mom.

by Anonymousreply 579October 22, 2021 5:55 PM

Some people will do anything to get away from a media-whore wife and a houseful of screaming banshees!

by Anonymousreply 580October 22, 2021 5:56 PM

This is so not hilarious, Alecito.

by Anonymousreply 581October 22, 2021 5:58 PM

Ohio senatorial candidate J.D. Vance, who was once touted as a "reasonable" Republican:

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by Anonymousreply 582October 22, 2021 5:59 PM

The one we should be feeling sorry for is the prop guy who prepared the gun. Can you imagine?

by Anonymousreply 583October 22, 2021 6:02 PM

R555, you're argument doesn't hold water. A typical Trumptard would want Alec alive and to suffer.

And if you don't think that a Trumptard isn't capable of that kind of violent thinking and carrying it out, just last month, one of them tried to set fire to a local Democrats campaign office by tossing in a molotov cocktail. The whole block couldn't have gone up in flames. AND he got caught because security cameras captured his attempts. Yes, attempts. The first one he tossed in was a dud, so he went back and tossed in another that actually worked.

So, yes, an angry, bitter Trumptard is capable of anything.

by Anonymousreply 584October 22, 2021 6:04 PM

Baldwin was most likely drunk at the time.

by Anonymousreply 585October 22, 2021 6:09 PM

wow, some really deranged folks in this thread...

by Anonymousreply 586October 22, 2021 6:09 PM

Alec Baldwin is now this generation's Fatty Arbuckle.

by Anonymousreply 587October 22, 2021 6:12 PM

[quote]I have reason to believe he was responsible for the Challenger explosion as well.

He's been suspiciously silent about the Lindbergh baby.

by Anonymousreply 588October 22, 2021 6:14 PM


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by Anonymousreply 589October 22, 2021 6:16 PM

At the very least, Baldwin should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Any non-celebrity would be.

by Anonymousreply 590October 22, 2021 6:18 PM

How does a "prop" gun discharge any kind of projectile? Is it a real gun or not?

by Anonymousreply 591October 22, 2021 6:19 PM

We really need more movies with guns in them.

by Anonymousreply 592October 22, 2021 6:20 PM

As a producer he had responsibility for safety on the set esp after union workers walked off due to safety concerns.

by Anonymousreply 593October 22, 2021 6:20 PM

The "I didn’t know the gun was loaded" defense is as lame as "The dog ate my homework".

by Anonymousreply 594October 22, 2021 6:20 PM

New thread

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by Anonymousreply 595October 22, 2021 6:21 PM

If there was one live round in the chamber, somebody probably purposefully decided to set Alec up. That's what happens when you make it a habit to treat others like shit.

by Anonymousreply 596October 22, 2021 6:21 PM

I hope he gains 500 more pounds.

by Anonymousreply 597October 22, 2021 6:21 PM

Serial killer!

by Anonymousreply 598October 22, 2021 6:22 PM

Shouldn't the prop master be inspecting the gun right before it's used in a scene and before he or she hands it off to the actor?

by Anonymousreply 599October 22, 2021 6:23 PM

R589, Yep. Very suspicious. This is definitely foul play by someone who had a grudge against Baldwin.

by Anonymousreply 600October 22, 2021 6:23 PM

wow, did Alec not know they were using real bullets?

Damn, now I wonder if he was drinking or under influence of drugs etc...

by Anonymousreply 601October 22, 2021 6:23 PM

Shad Lash Daysh!

by Anonymousreply 602October 22, 2021 6:23 PM

[quote] I will wait for the official report.

That's hilarious coming from the troll who posted more than 75 posts condemning Alec Baldwin and actually saying he did this on purpose. You usually just post about 25 posts a day on the meghan and Harry threads

God, you really are the biggest troll on DataLounge. You're disgusting and a trump supporter, who has also allowed syphilis to rot his brain.

by Anonymousreply 603October 22, 2021 6:25 PM

[quote]Why would he aim the gun at the cinematographer and the director?

I know nothing about guns. Is it possible for a gun to misfire so badly that the bullet (if it was loaded with bullets) or casing or cartridge or whatever (if it was loaded with blanks) would hit people who are nowhere in the line of fire? If that's not possible, then I DO NOT understand how this happened unless Baldwin was screwing around and aimed the gun at those people as a "joke."

[quote]He looks like shit at [R162]. Fat and slovenly. Didn’t even bother to comb his hair (toopay). Is he going for the homeless look?

Umm, maybe you missed the part where it says he's playing a role in the movie in addition to being the director. Presumably, the character is supposed to look like that. Can you not read AT ALL?

by Anonymousreply 604October 22, 2021 6:31 PM

[quote]Shouldn't the prop master be inspecting the gun right before it's used in a scene and before he or she hands it off to the actor?

There is supposed to be a designated person to oversee firearms on the set and inspect them before and after their use.

by Anonymousreply 605October 22, 2021 6:52 PM

Even if he thought the gun had blanks, what was he thinking pointing the gun in the direction of 2 people? Any idiot knows not to point a gun at another person, especially if pulling the trigger, unless you intend to kill or maim. You only point a gun at someone you intend to shoot. Anyone who handles guns knows this applies to unloaded guns and guns with safety on, as well as loaded guns.

by Anonymousreply 606October 22, 2021 10:37 PM
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