Which do you consider the most fucked-up city in the US right now?

Frisco.

R1 No one says "Frisco," dear.

What is the capitol of Texas?

Anchorage, Alaska and Billings, Montana is the highest level of Covid in the world.

Eldergays do, R2.

I say "SanFran"!

Locals call it Franie.

Washington DC, I hear it's a hotbed for subversive nutjobs

Maybe east St. Louis?

Why did Detroit rate so high?

I'd still rather live at any of these places than some methed up rural town full of Magats.

New York - Safer than 26% of U.S. Cities

Los Angeles - Safer than 13% of U.S. Cities

Chicago - Safer than 8% of U.S. Cities

Seattle - Safer than 4% of U.S. Cities

Minneapolis - Safer than 3% of U.S. Cities

Portland - Safer than 2% of U.S. Cities -Violent Crime Rate (per 1,000 residents) - 5.52

San Francisco - Safer than 2% of U.S. Cities - Violent Crime Rate (per 1,000 residents) - 6.91

St Louis - Safer than 1% of U.S. Cities - Violent Crime Rate (per 1,000 residents) - 19.27

Detroit - Safer than 2% of U.S. Cities Violent Crime Rate (per 1,000 residents) - 19.53

Ding Ding we have a winner!

St Louis in a neck and neck finish with Detroit, with San Francisco and Portland closely following, then Minneapolis and Seattle not far behind, only NYC trailing the pack at dead last

Of course if you factor in human shit piles, disease, and garbage everywhere one of the others might edge out a hard won finish.

I wasnt sure whether to pick Detroit or San Francisco prior to checking this, but - they're all pretty awful

What size, OP. In most states, a "city" can have as few as 2500 or 5000 people. Plus, you really can't compare a medium sized city Omaha with one like NYC or LA, and metro area size matters. DC has more people than Atlanta but the metro areas are more similar in size.

New York - Equally or more dangerous than 74% of U.S. Cities

R12, just be aware that the areas listed are for cities, not metropolitan areas. An area-restricted older city like the City of St. Louis, where all the diversity of urban experience up, down and sideways, is surrounded on the Missouri side by a diverse but less-high-crime St. Louis County and other counties nearby, all with lower crime rates. Some cities were able to grow outwards, and inevitably will be reported as having lower rates because their concentration of older, high-crime areas already are diluted by the whole. Look at metro rates for a better comparison.

I can't speak for "right now" precisely, but from my experience I would suggest Dallas, Texas.

Perhaps followed at some distance by Hyannis Port, Massachusetts.

Having lived here for 3/4 of my life (I'm in my 60s), I'm going to sadly vote for San Francisco. The "Haves" have overrun this city and are fueled by greed and apathy. The "Have Nots" are fueled by rage and anguish. It's a pendulum swinging back and forth, back and forth, and the city is an absolute disaster. Heartbreaking.

Bill deBlasio. Enough said. Everybody sing!.... in an ironic tone, please.

Almost ANY city in New Jersey.

Fucked up in what particular way? Or in all ways? I have lived in 10 major cities in the world and San Francisco has been fucked up since HIV arrived. I mean the people, rich and poor, skilled and unskilled, are majorly fucked up and not operating according to mundane rules that make sense in most cities. So a city that once had a balance of alternate and strange and innovate and creative thinking mixed with mundane - making things work and livable and functional - tipped the balance. Its been repeated roller coasters ever since HIV rocked the city. All different kinds of waves of insanity.

How ancient are you r20?

HIV hasn’t been a crisis for decades.

And you’re still living in fear of it.

Im not living in fear of HIV AIDS, shit for brains. Do you have reading skills. I said, SINCE the HIV crisis, SF has been on a roller coaster of dysfunction and insanity. Every positive trend seems to bring a negative.

PTSD loon ^

It’s not 1984 anymore

All run by democrats.

R23 illiterate shit for brains. SF dealt with HIV yet moved directly into fiscal yo-yoing and extreme income disparity, in-affordability, mass exodus of the working class, and rampant homelessness. Not to mention a zillion tiresome and antisocial and competing "lifestyles" trends.

After seeing some recent stories on crime in Philadelphia, I have to go with the city of Brotherly Love, thanks to that idiot mayor.

I vote for Philadelphia. And I love Philly in all of its fucked-up, dysfunctional glory.

Can we do a poll on which rural backwater hellhole is the the worst?

R25 is triggered

It’s nice to see New Orleans is t at the top of the dangerous list anymore

Houston. Huge crime wave happening now.

R28, it would be hard to pick just one. Such a poll would have to be divided into geographic regions, i.e. Applachian coal country, northern Idaho, the California high desert, etc.

Oh, please, fucked up Palm Beach troll OP.

Go eat Trump's shit and die!

I'm a Canadian who lives right across the border from Detroit and it's population has dwindled for years. The crime and violence are appalling, and affluent blacks are leaving the city as well. Downtown Detroit has been revitalized but the rest of the city is in poor shape. Too dangerous.

[quote] affluent blacks are leaving the city as well.

The 60s were a LONG time ago--that's when they left to the suburbs.

Crime isn't the only criterion for fucked-up-ness. I voted for San Francisco because any city that's impossible for ordinary people to afford has serious problems.

On the other hand, I live in Portland which has many many more problems at the moment than the rest of the country is aware of.

Such as r36? Proud Boys vs Antifa riots are national news.

I just left LA after 7 years there. It’s a disgusting shithole. I’ll never go back. My husband grew up there and said it’s never been worse. We’re going back to SF but will probably retire out of the country. The US is over…o-v-e-r over.

"Um, HELLOOOOO!"

R39 Baltimore is an absolute shit hole always has been. There are a couple little areas that are nice but overall it’s tragic. No gay scene… Super ghetto and the most horrible accent I’ve ever heard of any place I’ve visited in the US.

anywhere were you cannot drink the tap water, such as, Flint, Michigan? People need portable water.

The question is 'which city is the most fucked up, but the sad thing is 'they're all fucked up.'

Of these the honest answer is Detroit. Massive economic issues, massive stretches of abandoned properties, massive corruption. It's objectively the most fucked up city on the list.

SF, Frisco? People pay top dollar to live there. Are you serious? It's got to be some rural Texas or Mississippi place.

All right wing trolls hate San Francisco r44.

But yes, people voting for a city that has so many people wanting to live in it that any property has become absurdly expensive is funny. Clearly the city is doing something right.

Philly wins this thread. Between zombie Kensington and being recorded while you are raped in public, it’s a house of horrors.

people from frisco say frisco. I have heard it many times.

R32, we can set up the poll however is best I’m all for it. It would be much more fun that this thread.

It has to be a place that you cannot be PAID to live there. People want to move to some of these cities by choice. If you got a job with a home in San Francisco, you would be jumping up and down, thrilled.

I mean really.

If you got a job offer in any of these cities, which one would you turn down?

Bakersfield CA

Oklahoma City

Fresno

Colorado Springs

VA Beach

Tulsa

Omaha

^ all dumps with Republican mayors

The hedge funds have cleaned out the major cities and the republicans at the state level have cut all the city supports down to zero. The state republicans have been trying to starve the cities of services to the point of third world standards. And then pumping up the law enforcement equipment.

[quote]people from frisco say frisco.

That's because they're all empty-headed ship-ins. The natives say San Francisco. Because that's the name of the city. Not Frisco. Not San Fran *shudder*. It's San Francisco. S A N F R A N C I S C O!!

Not Frisco, but Fresno has a Republican mayor. I’ve never had the pleasure of visiting such a world class, renowned locale.

Please enlighten me.

Speaking of Detroit: Michigan was taken over by republicans about a decade ago and they immediately removed all powers from the city governments and tied their hands. Just as many were starting to make a comeback.

Republicans couldn’t have that, now could they.

R54 I can’t HEAR you…!

San fran, frisco. people from there do say this. i have heard both many times.

Some of you are way too obsessed with crime. When I think of fucked up cities, crime never even enters the picture. If a city lacks a good entertainment and cultural scene and at least one major university or college, then it's a fucked up city.

R59) Why can’t we have a cultural scene, entertainment and a university without crime? Pardon those of us, he don’t like being broken in to, shot at on the interstate, not be victims of hate crimes, ect.

Portland has a higher murder rate than Seattle or SF currently. There is still so much graffiti, and the homelessness has exploded beyond dystopian. On top of it, there are so many empty apts, as the owners will not lower rents, due to them endangering their future builds' financing. Wages in Portland are low, and they are not getting the bump other cities seem to be seeing, but the housing market is just as crazy as it has been for years, if not crazier- I have received so many unappreciated contacts from real estate agents and strangers looking for property. I love my house, and I am not selling.

[quote]People need portable water. Oh, Dear!