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Mel's Diner (Per Request)

[quote]can someone please start a thread asking why Mel's Diner on ALICE needed 3 waitresses all day long, when there were barely any customers?

by Anonymousreply 138October 24, 2021 5:47 PM

Because that's what the script called for.

by Anonymousreply 1October 13, 2021 6:31 PM

We know Mel's was closed on Sunday. We also know that the Diner closes at 7pm. So it must be a place where there is limited traffic.

It appears the ladies walk to work, though they may take a public transportation. This would be a bad thing in Phoenix in the summer.

Mel supposedly gets a lot of trucker traffic, he also does tour buses so I assume that it would open at at least 7am. And he must be near a busy highway.

That means 12 hours a day/ six days a week.

Mel also doesn't pay overtime to his waitresses. (How he gets away with that is beyond me) but he also does not have them punch a time clock.

by Anonymousreply 2October 13, 2021 6:33 PM

Someone had to be available at all times in case Flo's grits needed to be kissed.

by Anonymousreply 3October 13, 2021 6:34 PM


Mel was the Mack Daddy of Phoenix.

by Anonymousreply 4October 13, 2021 6:36 PM

As a kid, I always figured that the lunch rush took place during the commercial break. After all, if the diner were always busy, there would be little opportunity for the characters to interact meaningfully.

by Anonymousreply 5October 13, 2021 6:39 PM

[quote]That means 12 hours a day/ six days a week.

That is 72 hours to fill. Three waitresses would have to work 9 hours each day.

They also should be staggering their start and end times.

by Anonymousreply 6October 13, 2021 7:02 PM

Alice - 7am to 4pm

Vera - 8:30am to 5:30pm

Flo - 10am to 7pm

by Anonymousreply 7October 13, 2021 7:04 PM

Would Belle have just taken over Flo's shift?

by Anonymousreply 8October 13, 2021 7:08 PM

[quote] can someone please start a thread asking why Mel's Diner on ALICE needed 3 waitresses all day long, when there were barely any customers?

Same reason that the Sunshine Cab Company needed that many taxi drivers, sitting around, playing cards, and chewing the fat (instead of actually sitting in a cab, driving customers around, and getting paid).

by Anonymousreply 9October 13, 2021 7:13 PM

Tour buses? I always thought Phoenix was a place like Stateville: you didn't go there unless you were planning on visiting the inmates.

by Anonymousreply 10October 13, 2021 7:19 PM

Don't eat the chili!

by Anonymousreply 11October 13, 2021 7:30 PM

Because it was a front for relocated mob witnesses to launder money. Duh.

by Anonymousreply 12October 13, 2021 7:40 PM

They had a few episodes where Mel mentions the tour bus trade. Also Mel's Diner was written up for it's chili.

Greyhound also used to have contracts with diners they would stop at.

So whenever you see three waitresses it should be between 10am and 4pm (Mon thru Sat).

by Anonymousreply 13October 13, 2021 8:09 PM

Mel's was a front for a drug operation. He had a room in back with Korean ladies filling bags up with cocaine. One day Vera stumbled onto the operation but Mel convinced her they were packaging up baking powder for the homeless.

by Anonymousreply 14October 13, 2021 8:16 PM


Why do you think Vera was always throwing straws

by Anonymousreply 15October 13, 2021 8:20 PM

I've seen all the episodes growing up but it's been awhile since I've seen any repeats.

Didn't the waitresses work the cash register, clean the bathrooms, mop the floors, take out trash (at times), stock the supply room not to mention wipe the tables, chairs, booths & counters all down. I can see it being a 3 member team especially with a dum dum, standard blond chatterbox & a single mom who can't tell her kid "Mommy's working right now".

I don't recall Mel cleaning anything so I guess his grill, etc, was also cleaned by the girls.

by Anonymousreply 16October 13, 2021 10:12 PM

Vic Tayback must have been one hairy bear. Any shirtless pics out there?

by Anonymousreply 17October 13, 2021 11:17 PM

Those straw dispensers don’t refill themselves, OP.

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by Anonymousreply 18October 13, 2021 11:27 PM

They were all in the federally funded witness protection program. Mel was a Federal Marshal who ran the program. They all needed alibis for where they got their money so they “worked” at the diner, where no local would eat more than once, so no worries about being recognized. No mob hit man would be on a tour bus or driving a semi.

by Anonymousreply 19October 13, 2021 11:31 PM

I am a fan of Jolene Hunnicutt

by Anonymousreply 20October 13, 2021 11:32 PM

I'm the blood, sweat and tears Mel puts into his food. Literally.

by Anonymousreply 21October 13, 2021 11:41 PM

Mel's Diner seemed like someplace where you'd find a band-aid in your soup.

by Anonymousreply 22October 14, 2021 3:03 PM

Restaurants do have a lead waitress, so one of the girls had to be lead. I’m thinking Flo since Alice is the “new girl in town”.

by Anonymousreply 23October 14, 2021 3:12 PM

She was never a girl—more a gal.

by Anonymousreply 24October 14, 2021 3:32 PM

Mel cleaned his griddle on occasions and each of the girls on occasion took over cooking for Mel when he was away.

I do like the fact that all the waitresses and Mel himself, lived in apartments that would be representative of their incomes.

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by Anonymousreply 26October 14, 2021 4:11 PM

[quote]I am a fan of Jolene Hunnicutt

Jump back!

by Anonymousreply 27October 14, 2021 4:19 PM

Was there any doubt when Flo worked late, after the diner closed she and Mel fucked like rabbits on top of one of the very tables his famous chili was served on the next day?

by Anonymousreply 28October 14, 2021 4:25 PM

Daddy-bear Mel didn't fuck chicks.

by Anonymousreply 29October 14, 2021 4:30 PM


Mel's Chili." It is based on the "famous recipe" that Mel, the owner of Mel's Diner had on the t.v. show "Alice." It was a little spicy, red kidney beans, and was served over spaghetti.

Simmer for 2 hours:

2 lbs. ground beef 1 onion, chopped 2 cans tomato paste 6 cans water 1 clove garlic, mashed Salt and pepper Add:

2 pkgs. chili seasoning mix 1 lg. can chili beans

No directions were given, but I would really believe you fixed it like a regular chili

by Anonymousreply 30October 14, 2021 4:33 PM

He lets that robe fall open whenever the paperboy stops by...

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by Anonymousreply 31October 14, 2021 4:39 PM

Vera was not getting married today.

by Anonymousreply 32October 14, 2021 4:41 PM

Oh waitress! There's a pubic hair in my chili!

by Anonymousreply 33October 14, 2021 4:48 PM

D27 I’ve been saying “jump back” a lot lately celebrating the 40th anniversary of Jolene Hunnicutt’s debut on Alice!!

by Anonymousreply 34October 14, 2021 4:51 PM

R27 excuse me

by Anonymousreply 35October 14, 2021 4:51 PM

Flo lived in a tiny, dingy trailer.

by Anonymousreply 36October 14, 2021 4:52 PM

I liked Vera’s apartment. It was a tiny studio with her elevated bed.

by Anonymousreply 37October 14, 2021 4:53 PM

She climbed a ladder to get into her bed

by Anonymousreply 38October 14, 2021 4:54 PM

Mel was so hirsute, his shoulders needed a hair net when he was in the kitchen.

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by Anonymousreply 39October 14, 2021 4:57 PM

Alice needed a flexible schedule, in case she was called to a singing audition at any minute during the day. And being Phoenix, you can bet that happened all the time.

by Anonymousreply 40October 14, 2021 5:03 PM

Or when a friend or family member came into town for a visit!!

by Anonymousreply 41October 14, 2021 5:11 PM

I 💗 Mel’s mom, Carrie, played by Martha Ray.

by Anonymousreply 42October 14, 2021 5:12 PM

Mel had a sofa sleeper that was always conveniently open when the paperboy boy stopped by to "collect"...

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by Anonymousreply 43October 14, 2021 5:18 PM

Alice's & Tommy's house had the exact same layout as Lou Grant's house (when he was on MTM). The house Phyllis was going to sell and then Lou changed his mind (because Mary said to hell with Phyllis, you don't have to sell if you don't want to).

by Anonymousreply 44October 14, 2021 5:23 PM

I love R7. This is one of the reasons I come to DL.

by Anonymousreply 45October 14, 2021 5:27 PM

Stow it, dinghy!

by Anonymousreply 46October 14, 2021 6:10 PM

I was a Phoenix paperboy back in the day. I loved "collecting day" as I called it. Knocking on Mel Sharples door always made my palms wet.

Would he answer it with only a towel around his waist, fresh out of the shower, water dripping and sparkling as it clung to all that body hair? It happened too often to be a coincidence. I prayed so. I knew he could hear me knocking on the other apartment doors in the building, making my way to him.

The growing bulge under the towel would move every-so-slightly, causing the towel to come undone, and he would tell me to come in while he got his wallet, conveniently always on his nightstand. He would push me down onto the bed and yank my pants off so quickly I could hardly object.

On top of paying for his newspaper subscription, there would always be1 or 2 extra $20's, for "your excellent service", as he told me. "See you next month" he'd grumble as he closed the door behind me.

by Anonymousreply 47October 14, 2021 6:27 PM

I've been watching Cheers and am currently near the end of season 3. The last episode I watched was "Cheerio, Cheers" which is Coach's final episode. He'd been missing for most of the episodes immediately preceding that and never appears again. On that note, Diane has left for Europe. That leaves the bar with one bartender (Sam) and one waitress (Carla). Were they working 80-hour workweeks during this time?

by Anonymousreply 48October 14, 2021 6:42 PM

r17 If only.

r29 Hooray!

r31 I think I can still fold a newspaper to Mel's specifications. If I mess up, he can show me what I did wrong.

r39 Very nice indeed.

r47 I'm listening. DO go on.

r43 A lot more than my palms are getting sweaty.

by Anonymousreply 49October 14, 2021 6:58 PM

[quote]Mel had a sofa sleeper

It was not a sleeper sofa, it was more of a daybed

by Anonymousreply 50October 14, 2021 7:10 PM

[quote] Were they working 80-hour workweeks during this time?

Never heard of a temp? I'm sure Carla wouldn't mind working for the extra tips and Sam had no life outside the bar anyway.

by Anonymousreply 51October 14, 2021 7:10 PM

It's funny Mel had so many paperboys over all the time when no one ever saw him read a newspaper.

by Anonymousreply 52October 14, 2021 7:29 PM

[quote]Flo lived in a tiny, dingy trailer.

Perhaps if she had spent less of her paycheck on Almond Elbow Paste and Coconut Skin Food, we wouldn't have all been subjected to her poor life choices.

by Anonymousreply 53October 14, 2021 8:01 PM

Mel's Diner really was a front for the numbers racket. Alice was the heavy hitter brought in from New Joysey, with connections and she was going to run a new game for the lagging Mel.

Dingy Vera "lost" one of the bank deposits when she went to the bank with her no-good, abuser boyfriend and then Mel knocked her teeth out which is why she had those huge teeth and couldn't remember much.

Flo saw it all but didn't care. As the elder stateswoman waitress, she got a cut of the profits and was pissed as hell. She was happy when Alice showed up with her song and dance swagger. If only that Tommy would stop hanging around, scaring away the "real" customers. STOW IT!

by Anonymousreply 54October 14, 2021 9:44 PM

Even as a child, I never believed that Mel's Diner could produce good chili. That whole idea of a "secret recipe" for Mel's chili just did not ring true to my ears.

by Anonymousreply 55October 14, 2021 9:48 PM

Y'all remember that hi-fancy fatass restaurant critic that keeled over in his booth? Flo told me one night down to the Chez Chug-A-Lug that for a while there they weren't, uh, usin' ground beef in the secret recipe.

by Anonymousreply 56October 14, 2021 9:54 PM

Vera loved classic movies from the 30s and 40s

by Anonymousreply 57October 14, 2021 10:33 PM

Oh god! Mel used to call Tawmey his little paperboy. Oh god.

by Anonymousreply 58October 14, 2021 11:24 PM

Stow it, Alice!

by Anonymousreply 59October 14, 2021 11:30 PM

What do you think the plastic straw budget was on Alice?

by Anonymousreply 60October 15, 2021 2:35 AM

I don't know, but every one of them killed a seal.

by Anonymousreply 61October 15, 2021 2:40 AM

[quote]What do you think the plastic straw budget was on Alice?

Nothing, Vera picked them up and put them back.

by Anonymousreply 62October 15, 2021 6:49 AM

I liked the Granny Gums story Jolene told.

by Anonymousreply 63October 15, 2021 9:39 AM

Mel's Diner could have used a sassy black waitress. Maybe Marla Gibbs.

by Anonymousreply 64October 15, 2021 3:55 PM


No, it would have to have been more like Jackee

by Anonymousreply 65October 15, 2021 6:25 PM

Jolene for some reason, was related to Boss "Dukes of Hazzard" Hogg

by Anonymousreply 66October 15, 2021 6:25 PM

The running gag of Mel's being destroyed:

1) Flo drove a truck into it

2) A hot air balloon crashed into it

3) Mel cut down a tree and it fell on it

4) A bodybuilder and his friends picked the diner up

Any others?

by Anonymousreply 67October 15, 2021 6:27 PM

I'm surprised Lavin didn't demand a cross over and to sing at the Boars Nest.

by Anonymousreply 68October 15, 2021 6:27 PM

Imagine Lavin comes on stage as patrons are throwing back mugs of booze as a strong country twang tune begins and then... "I used to saddddd. Used to be shy..."

by Anonymousreply 69October 15, 2021 6:28 PM

Because they weren't *just* waitresses, if you catch my drift.

by Anonymousreply 70October 15, 2021 6:38 PM

Mel and Jolene had a fling. I am truly sorry it ended so abruptly. They had so much chemistry. ⚗

by Anonymousreply 71October 15, 2021 6:47 PM

Mel had that hot ass side piece, Marie played by Victoria Carroll

by Anonymousreply 72October 15, 2021 6:51 PM

Mel's was not the only tv dinner with lousy staff scheduling. On It's a Living, there apparently were only 4 waitresses that worked all the shifts. Everyday.

by Anonymousreply 73October 15, 2021 7:48 PM

But where do the truckers shower?

by Anonymousreply 74October 15, 2021 7:57 PM

One thing I always found interesting was that sometimes the diner was packed for lunch or dinner (this is when usually the incredibly annoying Henry would show up with his stupid snarky comments about Mel's chili).

by Anonymousreply 75October 15, 2021 8:01 PM

They didn't want to pay for extras?

by Anonymousreply 76October 16, 2021 1:17 AM

R44, what are you smoking? Alice and Tommy lived in a one-bedroom apartment.

I miss that endless thread about the many iterations of the theme song.

by Anonymousreply 77October 16, 2021 1:35 AM
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by Anonymousreply 78October 16, 2021 1:37 AM

I've just learned that the duo who write "The Way We Were," which is perhaps the greatest song of all time, also wrote the theme for Alice. Mind fucking blown.

by Anonymousreply 79October 16, 2021 2:02 AM

I had no idea that Miss Lavin had her own hair person on set.

by Anonymousreply 80October 16, 2021 2:05 AM

For R77

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by Anonymousreply 81October 16, 2021 2:32 AM

It wasn't no Tom's Diner, that's for sure.

by Anonymousreply 82October 16, 2021 2:34 AM

This thread was funny too

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by Anonymousreply 83October 16, 2021 2:45 AM

[quote]Even as a child, I never believed that Mel's Diner could produce good chili. That whole idea of a "secret recipe" for Mel's chili just did not ring true to my ears.

Ancient Tayback secret, huh?

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by Anonymousreply 84October 16, 2021 3:32 AM

R18 God, I know it’s stupid, but whenever I see her spaz out with those exploding straws, it pisses me off. Why the fuck did she do that?

by Anonymousreply 85October 16, 2021 7:16 AM

[quote]Why the fuck did she do that?

She did it for the laughs, R85.

by Anonymousreply 86October 16, 2021 7:29 AM

[quote]On It's a Living, there apparently were only 4 waitresses that worked all the shifts. Everyday.

It was slightly different as the restaurant called "Above The Top," was set in a hotel (Jan says something like this hotel has three restaurants and four bars). It was only open for dinner. The waitresses would get there in the late afternoon and be done cleaning up around 11pm. Like Mel's it was closed Sunday and open six days a week. You occasionally would see only three waitresses. The real issue I had was the lack of busboys and support staff.

by Anonymousreply 87October 16, 2021 2:16 PM

R63 I loved Jolene’s story about Granny Gums! You made me smile!

by Anonymousreply 88October 16, 2021 10:16 PM

Here they all are! Season 4 (the fifth one played in the video) is by far the worst. Bitch had to be drunk off her ass.

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by Anonymousreply 89October 16, 2021 11:18 PM

Actually, I take that back. It's tied with season 2. But at least in season 2 there's no extended falsetto note for her to butcher.

by Anonymousreply 90October 16, 2021 11:25 PM

I have questions now.

Which season did she scat the theme?

Was it in her contract that she got to redo the theme every season?

Did she end up in Phoenix only because her car broke down?

I haven't watched this show in years.

by Anonymousreply 91October 17, 2021 1:55 AM

Polly H. was such a good actress, I really believed Flo could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.

by Anonymousreply 92October 17, 2021 2:18 AM

[quote]Did she end up in Phoenix only because her car broke down?

Supposedly but it still made little sense if she wanted to be a singer to stay there. Las Vegas or LA aren't that far off. Maybe she figured she'd have little competition in Phoenix

by Anonymousreply 93October 17, 2021 3:14 PM


She needed a place where there was NO COMPETITION.

by Anonymousreply 94October 17, 2021 4:03 PM

R94, she needed a day job adjacent to a deaf hospital. She sashayed over there every afternoon after work to put on a show for those poor souls. Hence, "Tawmeey" was fending for himself.

by Anonymousreply 95October 17, 2021 4:42 PM

Alice: After Dark was a big hit in Italy in the 80s (or by it's Italian title Alice: Dopo il Tramonto).

They were waitresses by day and prostitutes by night, hence the reason why they all only worked the day shift at the diner. Alice's specialty was making men wash her feet while she sang show tunes; Flo was a dominatrix who made men kiss her grits; and Vera was into straw play. Mel was the pimp but also hooked some for wealthy Arab Sheiks.

by Anonymousreply 96October 17, 2021 5:11 PM

Alice says "My big dick face son is sure to get AIDS, we have to be able to cover this up."

by Anonymousreply 97October 17, 2021 7:56 PM

Jolene Hunnicutt revealed Granny Gums had 3 teeth.

by Anonymousreply 98October 19, 2021 7:37 PM

R77, Tawmy had to clean that shitty apartment top to bottom after school. Because back in Jersey, when his mom cooked and cleaned she went outta her mind.

by Anonymousreply 99October 20, 2021 4:06 AM

*sultrily* Early to rise... (sexy breath) early to bed.

by Anonymousreply 100October 20, 2021 4:13 AM

Love the show!

Vera was addicted to soap operas esp Guiding Light. Flo was addicted to trucker cock. Alice was addicted to butting into everything. Mel was addicted to grease.

I always assumed as well that the busy times weren’t shown so the characters could actually have a story.

I find the show holds up.

by Anonymousreply 101October 20, 2021 4:20 AM

[quote] "It appears the ladies walk to work, though they may take a public transportation."

The Desert Palms Apartments where Alice lived are implied to be within walking distance (if not directly next door) of the diner. Flo drives from her trailer park (I can't remember if or when the name of it was mentioned), and Vera walks or takes public transportation, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, Phoenix in the summer would be brutal, R2.

by Anonymousreply 102October 20, 2021 4:22 AM

There was an episode starring country star Jerry Reed as himself. IIRC, Jolene tried to become a star and sang a horrible, homemade song called "Uncle Buck." It was hilariously bad.

by Anonymousreply 103October 20, 2021 4:24 AM

There’s a new girl in town / And she’s fifty-two! / just a fresh freckled face / Facing menopause!

by Anonymousreply 104October 20, 2021 5:10 AM

[quote]she needed a day job adjacent to a deaf hospital.

Which, incidentally, was a regular hospital before she started visiting.

by Anonymousreply 105October 20, 2021 8:04 AM

R103 ; That was Belle, Diane Ladd’s character.

by Anonymousreply 106October 20, 2021 1:00 PM

this bitches were oldies but goodies

by Anonymousreply 107October 20, 2021 1:08 PM

I think it took 3 waitresses a day to service that meaty chef👨🏻‍🍳

by Anonymousreply 108October 20, 2021 1:19 PM

[quote]Flo drives from her trailer park

No, Flo didn't have a car, there was one episode when the waitresses bought Mel's old clunker. And Vera wanted in on it, even though she didn't know how to drive.

Jolene was a truck driver by profession before becoming one of Mel's girls and Alice also knew how to drive a truck because, it was said, she used to accompany her husband on long hauls and he taught her. Also Mel could drive a rig too

by Anonymousreply 109October 20, 2021 2:20 PM

I think Jolene's Granny Gums Troll has become a new DL character!

by Anonymousreply 110October 20, 2021 3:13 PM

Once Granny Gums got dentures she lost her purpose

by Anonymousreply 111October 20, 2021 3:18 PM

Did Granny Gums work in Mel's whorehouse?

by Anonymousreply 112October 20, 2021 3:21 PM

Great finale with Linda rolling over in bed to find Suzanne Pleshette next to her.

by Anonymousreply 113October 20, 2021 3:37 PM

You know, one of them had to have been fucking Mel. That's just the way those small diners in the 70s worked. Right?

by Anonymousreply 114October 20, 2021 3:46 PM

Mel was running a gravy train around that diner after hours

by Anonymousreply 115October 20, 2021 3:55 PM

I liked the exchange between Vera and Jolene about how Vera was "missing her soaps," prompting Jolene to go off on a tangent about the time she misplaced two bars of Camay and found them "right behind the Velveeter."

by Anonymousreply 116October 20, 2021 4:45 PM

Yes R105. After Alice performed suicide watches would triple.

by Anonymousreply 117October 20, 2021 5:36 PM

Was Vera retarded?

by Anonymousreply 118October 20, 2021 7:56 PM

Jump back!

by Anonymousreply 119October 20, 2021 9:25 PM

I’ve been sittin here in my rocker thinking about Granny Gums!

by Anonymousreply 120October 20, 2021 9:28 PM

Watching reruns of Alice, as I kid I’d always thought Vera was special as in she rode on the short bus.

by Anonymousreply 121October 20, 2021 10:03 PM

Vera was intelligent in her own way.

by Anonymousreply 122October 20, 2021 10:14 PM

A weird interview with Beth Howland. The interviewer is asking some very intimate questions. Wow. Beth who played Vera seems grounded and sweet.

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by Anonymousreply 123October 20, 2021 11:00 PM

Mel! Kiss my clit!!

by Anonymousreply 124October 20, 2021 11:08 PM

They had to be adequately staffed in case Shirley MacLaine popped in for a creme brûlée.

by Anonymousreply 125October 20, 2021 11:10 PM

When donkeys fly

by Anonymousreply 126October 20, 2021 11:13 PM

[quote]Was Vera retarded?

I think "special" would be the term we would use today.

This is particularly so because she was some sort of savant. Remember, the reviewer of the Arizona Republic went into ecstatic rhapsodies over her performance in the title role of "Cinderella" at the local community theatre. (He also wrote, "As the Wicked Stepmother, Alice Hyatt was adequate."

by Anonymousreply 127October 20, 2021 11:16 PM

[quote]As the Wicked Stepmother, Alice Hyatt was adequate

That alone tells you the reviewer was wrong.

by Anonymousreply 128October 21, 2021 5:35 AM

Nobody compared to Flo but Jolene was good. Polly never made her tag line get annoying at least not to me.

This is a really enjoyable show. I am surprised they haven’t tried to remake it.

I liked some of the openings but damn Linda’s voice did get annoying and a few years the opening was terrible.

by Anonymousreply 129October 21, 2021 10:27 AM

I loved Alice Hyatt, Flo Castlberry, Vera Gorman, Mel Sharples, Jolene Hunnicutt, Carrie Sharples!

by Anonymousreply 130October 21, 2021 6:47 PM

What fat whore asked the question at OP?

by Anonymousreply 131October 21, 2021 6:49 PM

Remember when Datalounge started a thread about Philip McKeon and killed him, ala Rue McClanahan?

The thread's OP linked to his wiki page, and halfway through the thread, the link preview changed to say "(1964-2019)."

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by Anonymousreply 132October 22, 2021 2:40 AM

So how did Philip die?

Favorite episode? I like the UFO one, when Vera tried to commit suicide (damn and it was like episode 4 of the first season), and when Vera tap danced into a Guinness record.

by Anonymousreply 133October 22, 2021 10:42 AM

I love Vera Louise Gorman

by Anonymousreply 134October 22, 2021 2:05 PM

Mel's paperboy is below the counter, earning some of his "secret sauce."

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by Anonymousreply 135October 23, 2021 3:19 AM

[quote] I love Vera Louise Gorman

R134 = Elliot Novak

by Anonymousreply 136October 24, 2021 5:33 PM

The waitresses turned tricks as well, and that was a big business. Mel was their pimp daddy.

by Anonymousreply 137October 24, 2021 5:45 PM

R133 In one of threads about him on here, someone who claimed to know him and his family said he died of Emphysema.

by Anonymousreply 138October 24, 2021 5:47 PM
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