[quote]can someone please start a thread asking why Mel's Diner on ALICE needed 3 waitresses all day long, when there were barely any customers?
Mel's Diner (Per Request)
by Anonymous | reply 204 | November 15, 2022 12:27 PM |
Because that's what the script called for.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | October 13, 2021 6:31 PM |
We know Mel's was closed on Sunday. We also know that the Diner closes at 7pm. So it must be a place where there is limited traffic.
It appears the ladies walk to work, though they may take a public transportation. This would be a bad thing in Phoenix in the summer.
Mel supposedly gets a lot of trucker traffic, he also does tour buses so I assume that it would open at at least 7am. And he must be near a busy highway.
That means 12 hours a day/ six days a week.
Mel also doesn't pay overtime to his waitresses. (How he gets away with that is beyond me) but he also does not have them punch a time clock.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 13, 2021 6:33 PM |
Someone had to be available at all times in case Flo's grits needed to be kissed.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | October 13, 2021 6:34 PM |
r3
Mel was the Mack Daddy of Phoenix.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 13, 2021 6:36 PM |
As a kid, I always figured that the lunch rush took place during the commercial break. After all, if the diner were always busy, there would be little opportunity for the characters to interact meaningfully.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 13, 2021 6:39 PM |
[quote]That means 12 hours a day/ six days a week.
That is 72 hours to fill. Three waitresses would have to work 9 hours each day.
They also should be staggering their start and end times.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 13, 2021 7:02 PM |
Alice - 7am to 4pm
Vera - 8:30am to 5:30pm
Flo - 10am to 7pm
by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 13, 2021 7:04 PM |
Would Belle have just taken over Flo's shift?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | October 13, 2021 7:08 PM |
[quote] can someone please start a thread asking why Mel's Diner on ALICE needed 3 waitresses all day long, when there were barely any customers?
Same reason that the Sunshine Cab Company needed that many taxi drivers, sitting around, playing cards, and chewing the fat (instead of actually sitting in a cab, driving customers around, and getting paid).
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 13, 2021 7:13 PM |
Tour buses? I always thought Phoenix was a place like Stateville: you didn't go there unless you were planning on visiting the inmates.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 13, 2021 7:19 PM |
Don't eat the chili!
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 13, 2021 7:30 PM |
Because it was a front for relocated mob witnesses to launder money. Duh.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 13, 2021 7:40 PM |
They had a few episodes where Mel mentions the tour bus trade. Also Mel's Diner was written up for it's chili.
Greyhound also used to have contracts with diners they would stop at.
So whenever you see three waitresses it should be between 10am and 4pm (Mon thru Sat).
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 13, 2021 8:09 PM |
Mel's was a front for a drug operation. He had a room in back with Korean ladies filling bags up with cocaine. One day Vera stumbled onto the operation but Mel convinced her they were packaging up baking powder for the homeless.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 13, 2021 8:16 PM |
r14
Why do you think Vera was always throwing straws
by Anonymous | reply 15 | October 13, 2021 8:20 PM |
I've seen all the episodes growing up but it's been awhile since I've seen any repeats.
Didn't the waitresses work the cash register, clean the bathrooms, mop the floors, take out trash (at times), stock the supply room not to mention wipe the tables, chairs, booths & counters all down. I can see it being a 3 member team especially with a dum dum, standard blond chatterbox & a single mom who can't tell her kid "Mommy's working right now".
I don't recall Mel cleaning anything so I guess his grill, etc, was also cleaned by the girls.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 13, 2021 10:12 PM |
Vic Tayback must have been one hairy bear. Any shirtless pics out there?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 13, 2021 11:17 PM |
Those straw dispensers don’t refill themselves, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 13, 2021 11:27 PM |
They were all in the federally funded witness protection program. Mel was a Federal Marshal who ran the program. They all needed alibis for where they got their money so they “worked” at the diner, where no local would eat more than once, so no worries about being recognized. No mob hit man would be on a tour bus or driving a semi.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 13, 2021 11:31 PM |
I am a fan of Jolene Hunnicutt
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 13, 2021 11:32 PM |
I'm the blood, sweat and tears Mel puts into his food. Literally.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 13, 2021 11:41 PM |
Mel's Diner seemed like someplace where you'd find a band-aid in your soup.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 14, 2021 3:03 PM |
Restaurants do have a lead waitress, so one of the girls had to be lead. I’m thinking Flo since Alice is the “new girl in town”.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 14, 2021 3:12 PM |
She was never a girl—more a gal.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 14, 2021 3:32 PM |
Mel cleaned his griddle on occasions and each of the girls on occasion took over cooking for Mel when he was away.
I do like the fact that all the waitresses and Mel himself, lived in apartments that would be representative of their incomes.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 14, 2021 3:52 PM |
BOPPITY-BOP!
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 14, 2021 4:11 PM |
[quote]I am a fan of Jolene Hunnicutt
Jump back!
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 14, 2021 4:19 PM |
Was there any doubt when Flo worked late, after the diner closed she and Mel fucked like rabbits on top of one of the very tables his famous chili was served on the next day?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 14, 2021 4:25 PM |
Daddy-bear Mel didn't fuck chicks.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 14, 2021 4:30 PM |
MEL'S DINER CHILI
Mel's Chili." It is based on the "famous recipe" that Mel, the owner of Mel's Diner had on the t.v. show "Alice." It was a little spicy, red kidney beans, and was served over spaghetti.
Simmer for 2 hours:
2 lbs. ground beef 1 onion, chopped 2 cans tomato paste 6 cans water 1 clove garlic, mashed Salt and pepper Add:
2 pkgs. chili seasoning mix 1 lg. can chili beans
No directions were given, but I would really believe you fixed it like a regular chili
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 14, 2021 4:33 PM |
He lets that robe fall open whenever the paperboy stops by...
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 14, 2021 4:39 PM |
Vera was not getting married today.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 14, 2021 4:41 PM |
Oh waitress! There's a pubic hair in my chili!
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 14, 2021 4:48 PM |
D27 I’ve been saying “jump back” a lot lately celebrating the 40th anniversary of Jolene Hunnicutt’s debut on Alice!!
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 14, 2021 4:51 PM |
R27 excuse me
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 14, 2021 4:51 PM |
Flo lived in a tiny, dingy trailer.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 14, 2021 4:52 PM |
I liked Vera’s apartment. It was a tiny studio with her elevated bed.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 14, 2021 4:53 PM |
She climbed a ladder to get into her bed
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 14, 2021 4:54 PM |
Mel was so hirsute, his shoulders needed a hair net when he was in the kitchen.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 14, 2021 4:57 PM |
Alice needed a flexible schedule, in case she was called to a singing audition at any minute during the day. And being Phoenix, you can bet that happened all the time.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 14, 2021 5:03 PM |
Or when a friend or family member came into town for a visit!!
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 14, 2021 5:11 PM |
I 💗 Mel’s mom, Carrie, played by Martha Ray.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 14, 2021 5:12 PM |
Mel had a sofa sleeper that was always conveniently open when the paperboy boy stopped by to "collect"...
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 14, 2021 5:18 PM |
Alice's & Tommy's house had the exact same layout as Lou Grant's house (when he was on MTM). The house Phyllis was going to sell and then Lou changed his mind (because Mary said to hell with Phyllis, you don't have to sell if you don't want to).
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 14, 2021 5:23 PM |
I love R7. This is one of the reasons I come to DL.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 14, 2021 5:27 PM |
Stow it, dinghy!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 14, 2021 6:10 PM |
I was a Phoenix paperboy back in the day. I loved "collecting day" as I called it. Knocking on Mel Sharples door always made my palms wet.
Would he answer it with only a towel around his waist, fresh out of the shower, water dripping and sparkling as it clung to all that body hair? It happened too often to be a coincidence. I prayed so. I knew he could hear me knocking on the other apartment doors in the building, making my way to him.
The growing bulge under the towel would move every-so-slightly, causing the towel to come undone, and he would tell me to come in while he got his wallet, conveniently always on his nightstand. He would push me down onto the bed and yank my pants off so quickly I could hardly object.
On top of paying for his newspaper subscription, there would always be1 or 2 extra $20's, for "your excellent service", as he told me. "See you next month" he'd grumble as he closed the door behind me.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 14, 2021 6:27 PM |
I've been watching Cheers and am currently near the end of season 3. The last episode I watched was "Cheerio, Cheers" which is Coach's final episode. He'd been missing for most of the episodes immediately preceding that and never appears again. On that note, Diane has left for Europe. That leaves the bar with one bartender (Sam) and one waitress (Carla). Were they working 80-hour workweeks during this time?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 14, 2021 6:42 PM |
r17 If only.
r29 Hooray!
r31 I think I can still fold a newspaper to Mel's specifications. If I mess up, he can show me what I did wrong.
r39 Very nice indeed.
r47 I'm listening. DO go on.
r43 A lot more than my palms are getting sweaty.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 14, 2021 6:58 PM |
[quote]Mel had a sofa sleeper
It was not a sleeper sofa, it was more of a daybed
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 14, 2021 7:10 PM |
[quote] Were they working 80-hour workweeks during this time?
Never heard of a temp? I'm sure Carla wouldn't mind working for the extra tips and Sam had no life outside the bar anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 14, 2021 7:10 PM |
It's funny Mel had so many paperboys over all the time when no one ever saw him read a newspaper.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 14, 2021 7:29 PM |
[quote]Flo lived in a tiny, dingy trailer.
Perhaps if she had spent less of her paycheck on Almond Elbow Paste and Coconut Skin Food, we wouldn't have all been subjected to her poor life choices.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 14, 2021 8:01 PM |
Mel's Diner really was a front for the numbers racket. Alice was the heavy hitter brought in from New Joysey, with connections and she was going to run a new game for the lagging Mel.
Dingy Vera "lost" one of the bank deposits when she went to the bank with her no-good, abuser boyfriend and then Mel knocked her teeth out which is why she had those huge teeth and couldn't remember much.
Flo saw it all but didn't care. As the elder stateswoman waitress, she got a cut of the profits and was pissed as hell. She was happy when Alice showed up with her song and dance swagger. If only that Tommy would stop hanging around, scaring away the "real" customers. STOW IT!
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 14, 2021 9:44 PM |
Even as a child, I never believed that Mel's Diner could produce good chili. That whole idea of a "secret recipe" for Mel's chili just did not ring true to my ears.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 14, 2021 9:48 PM |
Y'all remember that hi-fancy fatass restaurant critic that keeled over in his booth? Flo told me one night down to the Chez Chug-A-Lug that for a while there they weren't, uh, usin' ground beef in the secret recipe.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 14, 2021 9:54 PM |
Vera loved classic movies from the 30s and 40s
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 14, 2021 10:33 PM |
Oh god! Mel used to call Tawmey his little paperboy. Oh god.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 14, 2021 11:24 PM |
Stow it, Alice!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 14, 2021 11:30 PM |
What do you think the plastic straw budget was on Alice?
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 15, 2021 2:35 AM |
I don't know, but every one of them killed a seal.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 15, 2021 2:40 AM |
[quote]What do you think the plastic straw budget was on Alice?
Nothing, Vera picked them up and put them back.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 15, 2021 6:49 AM |
I liked the Granny Gums story Jolene told.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 15, 2021 9:39 AM |
Mel's Diner could have used a sassy black waitress. Maybe Marla Gibbs.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 15, 2021 3:55 PM |
r64
No, it would have to have been more like Jackee
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 15, 2021 6:25 PM |
Jolene for some reason, was related to Boss "Dukes of Hazzard" Hogg
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 15, 2021 6:25 PM |
The running gag of Mel's being destroyed:
1) Flo drove a truck into it
2) A hot air balloon crashed into it
3) Mel cut down a tree and it fell on it
4) A bodybuilder and his friends picked the diner up
Any others?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 15, 2021 6:27 PM |
I'm surprised Lavin didn't demand a cross over and to sing at the Boars Nest.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 15, 2021 6:27 PM |
Imagine Lavin comes on stage as patrons are throwing back mugs of booze as a strong country twang tune begins and then... "I used to saddddd. Used to be shy..."
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 15, 2021 6:28 PM |
Because they weren't *just* waitresses, if you catch my drift.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | October 15, 2021 6:38 PM |
Mel and Jolene had a fling. I am truly sorry it ended so abruptly. They had so much chemistry. ⚗
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 15, 2021 6:47 PM |
Mel had that hot ass side piece, Marie played by Victoria Carroll
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 15, 2021 6:51 PM |
Mel's was not the only tv dinner with lousy staff scheduling. On It's a Living, there apparently were only 4 waitresses that worked all the shifts. Everyday.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 15, 2021 7:48 PM |
But where do the truckers shower?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | October 15, 2021 7:57 PM |
One thing I always found interesting was that sometimes the diner was packed for lunch or dinner (this is when usually the incredibly annoying Henry would show up with his stupid snarky comments about Mel's chili).
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 15, 2021 8:01 PM |
They didn't want to pay for extras?
by Anonymous | reply 76 | October 16, 2021 1:17 AM |
R44, what are you smoking? Alice and Tommy lived in a one-bedroom apartment.
I miss that endless thread about the many iterations of the theme song.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 16, 2021 1:35 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 16, 2021 1:37 AM |
I've just learned that the duo who write "The Way We Were," which is perhaps the greatest song of all time, also wrote the theme for Alice. Mind fucking blown.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | October 16, 2021 2:02 AM |
I had no idea that Miss Lavin had her own hair person on set.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | October 16, 2021 2:05 AM |
It wasn't no Tom's Diner, that's for sure.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 16, 2021 2:34 AM |
[quote]Even as a child, I never believed that Mel's Diner could produce good chili. That whole idea of a "secret recipe" for Mel's chili just did not ring true to my ears.
Ancient Tayback secret, huh?
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 16, 2021 3:32 AM |
R18 God, I know it’s stupid, but whenever I see her spaz out with those exploding straws, it pisses me off. Why the fuck did she do that?
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 16, 2021 7:16 AM |
[quote]Why the fuck did she do that?
She did it for the laughs, R85.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 16, 2021 7:29 AM |
[quote]On It's a Living, there apparently were only 4 waitresses that worked all the shifts. Everyday.
It was slightly different as the restaurant called "Above The Top," was set in a hotel (Jan says something like this hotel has three restaurants and four bars). It was only open for dinner. The waitresses would get there in the late afternoon and be done cleaning up around 11pm. Like Mel's it was closed Sunday and open six days a week. You occasionally would see only three waitresses. The real issue I had was the lack of busboys and support staff.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 16, 2021 2:16 PM |
R63 I loved Jolene’s story about Granny Gums! You made me smile!
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 16, 2021 10:16 PM |
Here they all are! Season 4 (the fifth one played in the video) is by far the worst. Bitch had to be drunk off her ass.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 16, 2021 11:18 PM |
Actually, I take that back. It's tied with season 2. But at least in season 2 there's no extended falsetto note for her to butcher.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 16, 2021 11:25 PM |
I have questions now.
Which season did she scat the theme?
Was it in her contract that she got to redo the theme every season?
Did she end up in Phoenix only because her car broke down?
I haven't watched this show in years.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 17, 2021 1:55 AM |
Polly H. was such a good actress, I really believed Flo could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 17, 2021 2:18 AM |
[quote]Did she end up in Phoenix only because her car broke down?
Supposedly but it still made little sense if she wanted to be a singer to stay there. Las Vegas or LA aren't that far off. Maybe she figured she'd have little competition in Phoenix
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 17, 2021 3:14 PM |
r93
She needed a place where there was NO COMPETITION.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 17, 2021 4:03 PM |
R94, she needed a day job adjacent to a deaf hospital. She sashayed over there every afternoon after work to put on a show for those poor souls. Hence, "Tawmeey" was fending for himself.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 17, 2021 4:42 PM |
Alice: After Dark was a big hit in Italy in the 80s (or by it's Italian title Alice: Dopo il Tramonto).
They were waitresses by day and prostitutes by night, hence the reason why they all only worked the day shift at the diner. Alice's specialty was making men wash her feet while she sang show tunes; Flo was a dominatrix who made men kiss her grits; and Vera was into straw play. Mel was the pimp but also hooked some for wealthy Arab Sheiks.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 17, 2021 5:11 PM |
Alice says "My big dick face son is sure to get AIDS, we have to be able to cover this up."
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 17, 2021 7:56 PM |
Jolene Hunnicutt revealed Granny Gums had 3 teeth.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 19, 2021 7:37 PM |
R77, Tawmy had to clean that shitty apartment top to bottom after school. Because back in Jersey, when his mom cooked and cleaned she went outta her mind.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 20, 2021 4:06 AM |
*sultrily* Early to rise... (sexy breath) early to bed.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 20, 2021 4:13 AM |
Love the show!
Vera was addicted to soap operas esp Guiding Light. Flo was addicted to trucker cock. Alice was addicted to butting into everything. Mel was addicted to grease.
I always assumed as well that the busy times weren’t shown so the characters could actually have a story.
I find the show holds up.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 20, 2021 4:20 AM |
[quote] "It appears the ladies walk to work, though they may take a public transportation."
The Desert Palms Apartments where Alice lived are implied to be within walking distance (if not directly next door) of the diner. Flo drives from her trailer park (I can't remember if or when the name of it was mentioned), and Vera walks or takes public transportation, if I remember correctly.
Anyway, Phoenix in the summer would be brutal, R2.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 20, 2021 4:22 AM |
There was an episode starring country star Jerry Reed as himself. IIRC, Jolene tried to become a star and sang a horrible, homemade song called "Uncle Buck." It was hilariously bad.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | October 20, 2021 4:24 AM |
There’s a new girl in town / And she’s fifty-two! / just a fresh freckled face / Facing menopause!
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 20, 2021 5:10 AM |
[quote]she needed a day job adjacent to a deaf hospital.
Which, incidentally, was a regular hospital before she started visiting.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | October 20, 2021 8:04 AM |
R103 ; That was Belle, Diane Ladd’s character.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | October 20, 2021 1:00 PM |
this bitches were oldies but goodies
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 20, 2021 1:08 PM |
I think it took 3 waitresses a day to service that meaty chef👨🏻🍳
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 20, 2021 1:19 PM |
[quote]Flo drives from her trailer park
No, Flo didn't have a car, there was one episode when the waitresses bought Mel's old clunker. And Vera wanted in on it, even though she didn't know how to drive.
Jolene was a truck driver by profession before becoming one of Mel's girls and Alice also knew how to drive a truck because, it was said, she used to accompany her husband on long hauls and he taught her. Also Mel could drive a rig too
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 20, 2021 2:20 PM |
I think Jolene's Granny Gums Troll has become a new DL character!
by Anonymous | reply 110 | October 20, 2021 3:13 PM |
Once Granny Gums got dentures she lost her purpose
by Anonymous | reply 111 | October 20, 2021 3:18 PM |
Did Granny Gums work in Mel's whorehouse?
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 20, 2021 3:21 PM |
Great finale with Linda rolling over in bed to find Suzanne Pleshette next to her.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 20, 2021 3:37 PM |
You know, one of them had to have been fucking Mel. That's just the way those small diners in the 70s worked. Right?
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 20, 2021 3:46 PM |
Mel was running a gravy train around that diner after hours
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 20, 2021 3:55 PM |
I liked the exchange between Vera and Jolene about how Vera was "missing her soaps," prompting Jolene to go off on a tangent about the time she misplaced two bars of Camay and found them "right behind the Velveeter."
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 20, 2021 4:45 PM |
Yes R105. After Alice performed suicide watches would triple.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 20, 2021 5:36 PM |
Was Vera retarded?
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 20, 2021 7:56 PM |
Jump back!
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 20, 2021 9:25 PM |
I’ve been sittin here in my rocker thinking about Granny Gums!
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 20, 2021 9:28 PM |
Watching reruns of Alice, as I kid I’d always thought Vera was special as in she rode on the short bus.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 20, 2021 10:03 PM |
Vera was intelligent in her own way.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 20, 2021 10:14 PM |
A weird interview with Beth Howland. The interviewer is asking some very intimate questions. Wow. Beth who played Vera seems grounded and sweet.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 20, 2021 11:00 PM |
Mel! Kiss my clit!!
by Anonymous | reply 124 | October 20, 2021 11:08 PM |
They had to be adequately staffed in case Shirley MacLaine popped in for a creme brûlée.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 20, 2021 11:10 PM |
When donkeys fly
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 20, 2021 11:13 PM |
[quote]Was Vera retarded?
I think "special" would be the term we would use today.
This is particularly so because she was some sort of savant. Remember, the reviewer of the Arizona Republic went into ecstatic rhapsodies over her performance in the title role of "Cinderella" at the local community theatre. (He also wrote, "As the Wicked Stepmother, Alice Hyatt was adequate."
by Anonymous | reply 127 | October 20, 2021 11:16 PM |
[quote]As the Wicked Stepmother, Alice Hyatt was adequate
That alone tells you the reviewer was wrong.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 21, 2021 5:35 AM |
Nobody compared to Flo but Jolene was good. Polly never made her tag line get annoying at least not to me.
This is a really enjoyable show. I am surprised they haven’t tried to remake it.
I liked some of the openings but damn Linda’s voice did get annoying and a few years the opening was terrible.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 21, 2021 10:27 AM |
I loved Alice Hyatt, Flo Castlberry, Vera Gorman, Mel Sharples, Jolene Hunnicutt, Carrie Sharples!
by Anonymous | reply 130 | October 21, 2021 6:47 PM |
What fat whore asked the question at OP?
by Anonymous | reply 131 | October 21, 2021 6:49 PM |
Remember when Datalounge started a thread about Philip McKeon and killed him, ala Rue McClanahan?
The thread's OP linked to his wiki page, and halfway through the thread, the link preview changed to say "(1964-2019)."
by Anonymous | reply 132 | October 22, 2021 2:40 AM |
So how did Philip die?
Favorite episode? I like the UFO one, when Vera tried to commit suicide (damn and it was like episode 4 of the first season), and when Vera tap danced into a Guinness record.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | October 22, 2021 10:42 AM |
I love Vera Louise Gorman
by Anonymous | reply 134 | October 22, 2021 2:05 PM |
Mel's paperboy is below the counter, earning some of his "secret sauce."
by Anonymous | reply 135 | October 23, 2021 3:19 AM |
[quote] I love Vera Louise Gorman
R134 = Elliot Novak
by Anonymous | reply 136 | October 24, 2021 5:33 PM |
The waitresses turned tricks as well, and that was a big business. Mel was their pimp daddy.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | October 24, 2021 5:45 PM |
R133 In one of threads about him on here, someone who claimed to know him and his family said he died of Emphysema.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | October 24, 2021 5:47 PM |
Someone please explain those large name badge fabric things the waitresses wore at Mel’s Diner please. Were they folded scarves or napkins? A corsage for waitresses? Were they just a ‘fashion statement’, or did they have a practice purpose? It seems like having this big thing hanging over your one tit would get in the way after a while. I just don’t remember these growing up in 1970s. Maybe I didn’t go to enough diners in Phoenix.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | October 21, 2022 4:08 PM |
Three is the magic number. There are three waitresses in "Waitress" too. Mel's Diner never had subs for the main waitresses. It must have been hard to put in for days off. "It's a Living" was better because they had 5 waitresses, a hostess, and a piano man.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | October 21, 2022 4:45 PM |
R139 it was folded like a napkin
by Anonymous | reply 141 | October 21, 2022 5:16 PM |
Was everyone here into Vera Louise Gorman-Novak??
by Anonymous | reply 142 | October 21, 2022 5:17 PM |
Carrie Sharples was won-der-ful played by Martha Raye!
by Anonymous | reply 143 | October 21, 2022 5:18 PM |
Trivia
Nancy McKeon played a child of Alice Hyatt’s boyfriend on a Halloween themed episode in 1981. This was while she was appearing on the Facts of Life on a different network. She is of course Phillip McKeon’s sister.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | October 21, 2022 5:21 PM |
I remember an obnoxious old woman who kept trying to get free food at the diner even though she was loaded. Perhaps in season 1 or 2.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | October 21, 2022 7:53 PM |
Mel's Diner really does exist to this day. And it really did exist at the time the tv show (and movie before the tv show) aired. I used to go there about once a month for breakfast. My last visit there was shortly before covid and I have never been back. I no longer eat inside restaurants due to covid. Unfortunately I have had no interest in going back because the last time I went there were not one, but two long hairs in my plate. One in the omlette and one in the hash browns.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | October 21, 2022 11:11 PM |
R146 I put those hairs there.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | October 21, 2022 11:46 PM |
Mel's dick wasn't super long, but it was seriously thick. And yeah he sweated a lot, but c'mon, he was a heaving, mountainous hunk of man, and he had his needs. I'll never forget the last time I collected from him for my paper route. He gasped "Screw da chili, swallow my MAN CHOWDER!" I woke up dazed outside his door, with a sore throat, a bulging belly and FIFTY DOLLARS CASH in my back pocket. In 1978 that was a lot of money! I bought the newest House Of Mystery comic and a used Ford Cortina.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | October 22, 2022 4:30 AM |
^^^Move over, chubby, mama’s here to cook.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | October 23, 2022 12:08 AM |
Mel, kiss my clit!
by Anonymous | reply 150 | October 23, 2022 12:20 AM |
[quote] have had no interest in going back because the last time I went there were not one, but two long hairs in my plate.
But you still used the straws after Vera threw them on the floor and picked them up and put them back.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | October 24, 2022 3:43 PM |
What a strange interview with actress Beth Howland (above). Whose idea was it to dress her in a nightgown from Wowolworth's 1980 ? And why was the interviewer so interested in Polly in the beginning ? You can tell she wanted back-stage gossip and Howland wasn't taking the bait.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | October 24, 2022 4:41 PM |
I liked
Alice Hyatt
Tommy Hyatt
Florence Jean Castleberry
Vera Louise Gorman Novak
Jolene Honicutt
Melvin Sharples
Carrie Sharples
by Anonymous | reply 153 | October 25, 2022 7:04 PM |
Jump back!
by Anonymous | reply 154 | October 25, 2022 7:05 PM |
Diane Ladd was the best addition to the show. Too bad she didn't recreate the role of Flo when the series began.
I still say Bonnie Franklin would've made the better ALICE and Lavin should have done ODAAT.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | October 25, 2022 7:10 PM |
Pffffft r155
by Anonymous | reply 156 | October 25, 2022 7:13 PM |
[quote]You can tell she wanted back-stage gossip and Howland wasn't taking the bait.
That's because the others shut her out and she had no gossip because no one would talk to her.
I never saw a Beth Howland interview where she didn't spend half of it slamming her ugly ass ex-husband about not paying child support. Lady at that point you could've afforded a lawyer to get it.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | October 25, 2022 7:19 PM |
I have nothing but admiration for anyone who's managed to sit through an entire episode of that terrible show.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | October 25, 2022 7:19 PM |
^^Fuck you
by Anonymous | reply 159 | October 25, 2022 7:32 PM |
R157, that woman ASKED Howland about Michael J. Pollard and she was very kind. I'm no Beth Howland fan, but she seemed very kind and patient with that interviewer, who seemed like a piece of work.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | October 25, 2022 11:09 PM |
I am a die hard Beth Howland fan.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | October 25, 2022 11:10 PM |
Linda L. was no Alice, that's for sure.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | October 26, 2022 12:43 AM |
The "Do You Think I'm Sexy" number, puked up by LL and MR, was one of the worst things I ever saw on t.v.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | October 26, 2022 1:22 AM |
Remember the episode when Vera was going to ride off with the motorcycle guy in the sidecar? And he rode off and the sidecar stayed put. Vera said, "Oh well, I guess that's fate" and he didn't bother riding back to get her. As a kid, I thought that was a really deep philosophy she had.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | October 26, 2022 2:33 AM |
Um, let me see ... I know! Because it was a TV show and they needed enough characters to make it interesting!
by Anonymous | reply 165 | October 26, 2022 2:38 AM |
We’re IN Pickle Springs!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 166 | October 26, 2022 8:17 AM |
[quote]. I'm no Beth Howland fan, but she seemed very kind and patient with that interviewer, who seemed like a piece of work.
No, your the owner of a straw manufacturer and Howland was good for business.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | October 27, 2022 2:44 PM |
Even Beth's husband couldn't be bothered to take two seconds to tell the world she died.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | October 27, 2022 2:44 PM |
According to Howland's husband, her last wishes were for him not to share the news of her passing until six months had gone by - which brought us to her birthday. He followed her last wishes, which was very kind of him.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | October 27, 2022 2:52 PM |
[quote]According to Howland's husband, her last wishes were for him not to share the news of her passing until six months had gone by
Well OF COURSE, he'd say that. It sounds a whole lot better than, "I couldn't be arsed," which is the truth.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | October 27, 2022 3:30 PM |
He had to follow her wishes otherwise she vowed to return from Hell and bite his nuts off with those wild chompers!
by Anonymous | reply 171 | October 27, 2022 3:44 PM |
Because three sets of hips are required to move like the waves in the ocean
by Anonymous | reply 172 | October 27, 2022 3:54 PM |
Jay Leno was on one episode as a tough guy biker (motorcyclist) who liked Alice. Also, Rue McClanahan was on one of the last episodes (season 9) as the owner of the Mother Goose Nursery School. Also, guest starring as themselves: George Burns, Art Carney, Robert Goulet, Telly Savalas, and Jerry Reid.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | October 27, 2022 4:22 PM |
Vera was an old movie buff. She often talked about going to see Katherine Hepburn themed movie nights in Phoenix.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | October 27, 2022 9:08 PM |
Dinah Shore also guest starred as herself. Mel cooked his chili on her talk show. LOL
by Anonymous | reply 175 | October 27, 2022 10:40 PM |
The customers were all in the John, shitting their souls and guts out, after eating Mel’s famous chili
by Anonymous | reply 176 | October 27, 2022 11:01 PM |
Mel was on Mission:Impossible last week...
by Anonymous | reply 177 | October 27, 2022 11:04 PM |
Beth Howland just seemed grateful for a regular gig and a steady paycheck, so she kept her head down and stayed out of the diva drama with Lavin and the others.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | October 27, 2022 11:23 PM |
[quote]Jay Leno was on one episode as a tough guy biker (motorcyclist) who liked Alice.
He was also the guy who dumped Laverne (from Laverne and Shirley) because she wasn't feminine enough.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | October 28, 2022 2:57 PM |
[quoteBeth Howland just seemed grateful for a regular gig and a steady paycheck, so she kept her head down and stayed out of the diva drama
Sound pretty stupid to me
by Anonymous | reply 180 | October 28, 2022 2:58 PM |
Jay Leno also once on DL fave "One Day At A Time." He played a character named 'Bernard" but he called himself 'Bernerd.'
by Anonymous | reply 181 | October 28, 2022 3:06 PM |
I wish I was Jolene and had stories about Granny Gums to tell everybody.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | October 28, 2022 6:41 PM |
Granny Gums appeared on one episode...and then died...she left Jolene money and Jolene then opened a beauty parlor!
by Anonymous | reply 183 | October 28, 2022 7:55 PM |
I do not recall ever seeing Granny Gums, only hearing about the lovely thing from Jolene.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | October 29, 2022 12:33 AM |
Watching the early eps, the diner was busier. Then empty as hell. It always looked so dirty and seemed like it was in the Deep South based on a lot of accents.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | October 29, 2022 1:46 AM |
What was the gay episode about with Denny Miller? Was he trying to hang around and be little Tommy's mentor or something?
by Anonymous | reply 186 | October 29, 2022 2:33 AM |
R186, yes. It's the second episode.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | October 29, 2022 2:39 AM |
R7, Alice couldn't handle the breakfast shift alone, could she?
I think I saw up to three customers in the morning. Alice would have been collapsing.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | October 29, 2022 2:42 AM |
There WERE a lot of southern accents in the early seasons, R185. Flo's made sense, but I got the impression the writers and producers were New Yorker Jews who probably couldn't distinguish Arizona from Texas.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | October 29, 2022 5:34 AM |
I'd fuck Vic Tayback but not Beth Howland
by Anonymous | reply 190 | October 29, 2022 5:38 AM |
[quote]Jolene then opened a beauty parlor!
And Alice told everyone she went there and the business immediately collapsed.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | October 29, 2022 2:40 PM |
[quote]I do not recall ever seeing Granny Gums, only hearing about the lovely thing from Jolene.
I think she was in the episode where Jolene was related somehow to "Boss Hogg" from "the Dukes of Hazzard,"" and they had her and Boss Hogg on.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | October 29, 2022 2:41 PM |
Martha Raye used to take out her dentures and give gumjobs to the guys on the crew.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | October 29, 2022 4:03 PM |
Omg I loved Boss Hogg!
by Anonymous | reply 194 | October 29, 2022 9:51 PM |
I didn't want to like Jolene at first—I still missed Flo and I thought Belle sucked—but she won me over in the episode where Vera got so addicted to watching soaps that she quit the diner.
Vera was going through withdrawals at work and told Jolene she was "missing her soaps." Jolene, bless her heart, took her literally and told her own tale of woe about "misplacin' two cakes of Camay. I looked everywhere and there they was, right behind the Velveeter."
by Anonymous | reply 195 | October 29, 2022 10:03 PM |
Does anybody know Celia Weston?
by Anonymous | reply 196 | October 29, 2022 10:13 PM |
[quote] Watching the early eps, the diner was busier. Then empty as hell.
Probably saving money on background actors.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | October 29, 2022 10:31 PM |
Celia Weston has had a nice little late-in-life career resurgence. She's a pretty talented actress.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | October 29, 2022 10:49 PM |
[quote] "No, Flo didn't have a car, there was one episode when the waitresses bought Mel's old clunker. And Vera wanted in on it, even though she didn't know how to drive."
I clearly missed that, R109. So how the hell did Flo get to work? I assumed she lived the furthest away (where there is room for an entire trailer park), given Alice lives very close to the diner, and Vera lives in an apartment (which I assume to be in a larger house in town, near the diner), and didn't drive.
I always thought Flo's trailer park was on the way out of town. Even further out than the diner, which I always understood to be on the grimy, dusty outskirts of Phoenix.
I guess it's totally possible they all walked. Anyway, I love these threads. I can't have these conversations anywhere else.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | October 29, 2022 11:07 PM |
As per this never-used into, Vera arrives to work by bike and Flo arrives via trick.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | October 29, 2022 11:33 PM |
^^^intro, not into
by Anonymous | reply 201 | October 29, 2022 11:35 PM |
Nobody who worked for Mel had a pot to piss in.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | October 29, 2022 11:39 PM |
[quote]So how the hell did Flo get to work?o how the hell did Flo get to work?
Flo depended on the kindness of stranger and Uber drivers.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | November 2, 2022 3:30 PM |
Tommy rode his bike
by Anonymous | reply 204 | November 15, 2022 12:27 PM |