Froy: “A lot of you have been asking me about my skincare routine…”

Is he talking about his own skin, or the preserved human flesh he keeps in the freezer for future grafting?

He doesn't usually sound low and breathy when he speaks Spanish...

His voice has changed a lot since this interview a few years back.

It hasn't changed. He's altering it.

R3 He speaks spanish like a drunk brit "Mucho acsión" lmao.

Anyways, I'm letting you total obsess over nothing.

He rolls his r's well.

LMAO...I really trust the skincare advice of someone using filters and a ring light to film their alleged routine. I'm sure he has good skin based on candid photos I've seen, but sad he would go through great lengths to scam people. Guess he doesn't want RiRi to beat his ass.

A ring light is great lengths?

This is an interesting twist.

I'm surprised he hasn't done more endorsements. Just an observation, my humble opinion of course, when he tries to butch up his voice he sounds less natural or is this how he sounds when he is nervous? Froy, your natural sounding voice is fine. Trust me. It's fine.

Otherwise, good for him. Is this the first time we see Abuelo Froylan? So Froy is actually Froylan the 3rd.

His voice sounds odd because he's speaking lower than where his voice naturally sits. And just like when you sing at the extremes of your range, you have to take bigger breaths. He's not doing so, which leaves him with a weaker, breathy sound.

R9 Literally what I said in the other thread. His normal voice sounds better, more natural. Trying to butch it up just doesn't work for him. And yeah, I agree about him sounding a bit nervous. Otherwise he looked great. It was a good ad. He should speak Spanish more often.

Don't know which thread I should use. Anyways... wonder if he got this promo deal through Madden? Maybe through one of Madden's connections?

First thing I thought when I saw that video is 'what the hell is he trying to do with his voice?'....LOL! Any one that knows, knows that's not his natural voice whatsoever. His natural tone is very fem. And honestly, it was one of the endearing qualities about him. Now he's just another young male actor trying to butch it up for Hollywood. I wonder if he was "advised" to do so, or sent to vocal coaches to change...or is he smoking now, or what? Also, the inflections and body language are so trying-to-hard-to-be-masculine, while he's normally much more relaxed. It makes him come off uncomfortable with himself, almost. I mean, it's cute for a online fashion/cosmetics ad, but it's so put-on it's kind of silly.

I've also noticed he's lately trying to come off much more brooding, moody, and unaffected...which is totally opposite of his usual effervescent, bubbly and giggly self. Here's how he used to be -

Of course he is more brooding, half of his gut flora is Richard’s babies.

I love Fem Froy.

15 comments and not a single one about his actual skincare routine 😁

Will there be another installment of the Froy in October thread now it’s paywalled, or perhaps just move forward and start a Froy in November thread?

R17 I could do it, but folks lectured me about starting a new thread last time. 😂

Is he related to Hilaria Baldwin?

Froy and Madden are so cute!

Yet another twink I have never heard of.

Get off my lawn, etc.

Have you heard of Fendi?

I need my Froy fix.

Maybe his skincare routine is like Connor Jessup’s — a facial.

[quote] my skincare routine…”

I love how soft focus the video is. He's practically whited-out

I was struck at how much he looks like (well a better looking version) a younger Richard. Madden is like fucking a hotter, younger version of himself.

I don't see it.

I randomly found this Twitter "genius" who says Froy was straight.Let's suppose for a second that this person really talked to Froy,I'm really SURE he switched his sexuality and totally not lied about being straight.

.....

That Twitter user said that Froy claimed straight in his DMs. That's hardly a crazy claim.

Word is Froy was pretty much 'out' in high school according to those who went to school with him...and went 'back in' when he started to pursue his career in LA.

And if you read the rest of the conversation the poster says Froy is sweet and kind. Also way too pretty to be straight and doesn’t deny the relationship with Richard.

Froy: “A lot of you have been asking me about my anal hygiene routine…”

Disney lists HP2 cast. Froy is finally part of the Disney world. 😍

Being on Cruel Summer. on Freeform, he was already part of the Disney family. ("Freeform is an American multinational basic cable channel owned by the ABC Family Worldwide subsidiary of Walt Disney Television, a subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company.")

[quote]HELPPPPPP so basically when he got casted in teen wolf he used to like tons of my tweets and we talked in dms a few times and like he told me one of his tweets was shade towards his ex gf and how, back in the day, he identified as straight but things def switched!

He was 18 on Teen Wolf, so when was 'back in the day"? When he was 12?

It’s great that there are people like Froy who are addressing skin care for persons of color.

R36 lol

[quote] R36 lol

Why is that funny? He said he was demonstrating it for Hispanic Heritage Month.

R38 You're being sarcastic, right? Why is Froy's skin care different from any white person's? I'm100% white. and he looks whiter than me.

Hispanics can be white, by the way (Spaniards). But I still don't know what special skin care routin he needs, please explain.

*routine

Do we still think Froy is a top?

OMG, his name is pronounced like the German "Fräulein" (= "Missie"). How funny!

Except it's not, it's pronounced Froy-lahn. With the emphasis on the 2nd syllable.

Except it is the you listen to his own voice. This is how you would call for a waitress in a beer garden.

You roll the R. Frrrrrroy-lan. A distinctive Mexican name

The pronunciation is as I stated. It's not pronounced like fraulein, not matter how much that would make you happy.

R46, Honey, listen to this...

Froylan is a Mexican name, most probably a derivation of the word Fraile or fraile Froilan . Most Froylans live in Mexico or the Southwestern United States which probably means its origins come from a play of words from a Spanish name/word.

Froylan Gutierrez the 3rd showed his abuelo not so long ago. Does anyone remember this? I swear I saw this in one of his IG stories.

R48 Yes, it was in the post right before the Fenty video 'influencer' ad he did. The one about Hispanic Heritage Month.

According to that babyname site above, Froylan is Mexican derived from a old Spanish name.

New Froy from tonight (seen with Cruel Summer cast member Chiara, who played Jeanette) -

[quote]Froylan Gutierrez the 3rd showed his abuelo not so long ago.

Was he cut or uncut?

Did he not breakup with with said special Scottish ingredient's manufacturer?

R52 If he did, it was amicable, since Froy was promoting The Eternals in his stories.

New Froy from insta stories today -

R54: he does have a sweet face🥰

Doesn't he just take the same blank, expressionless selfie over and over again?

R56 He does now, yeah. But he used to play around with around expressions/looks in his photos before. Well, somewhat. Not so much anymore.

Fuck he’s pretty. His ass takes all of Madden. I bet he’s an extraordinary bottom.

How do you know "all of Madden" is all that much?

Well, they wouldn't be asking him about his career because they would be met with blank stares.

Is Froy a power bottom, a bossy bottom, a clingy bottom, a slutty bottom, a messy bottom, or what?

R60 Who wouldn't be asking him about his career?

Froy is a double Taurus so his drive, stubbornness, and stamina are [bold]insane[/bold].

The boy is an insatiable bottom and at the very least a commendable top.

R63 I thought I read somewhere he was a triple Taurus.

R59 That reminds me of the little meme Brandon 'liked' on instagram after the breakup with Richard, something about "toxic men with good dick".

Of course Madden is big. It was his claim to fame when he did his first Disney film. His bulge had to be digitally removed.

[quote]he was a triple Taurus

There is no way to know that unless we know his exact birth time. The big three are your Sun sign, Moon Sign, and Ascendant. The only info that is public about him is his birthday: April 27, 1998. Dallas, Texas. I am unaware of his exact birth time being known (the exact time of day he was born). I'm surprised the Instagram fans have never ask him in order to do his astrological birth chart. Those fan accounts are not doing their jobs.

Oh my God, who cares about his birth signs, he's not Abraham Lincoln.. Some of you really ascribe more to this person than appears to be there.

Usually Taurus wouldn’t get a long with Gemini(Madden)

I used to like him a lot more but kind of lost respect for him for running around all during the pandemic. I can understand traveling for employment reasons but going to Europe at the height of the pandemic was a shock. Then running around England, Scotland, Spain, Hawaii and wherever, almost never wearing a mask in public unless he has to. Weird.

But I give him credit for being one of the few celebs to generate gossip and headlines during the lockdown, actually upping his public profile considerably during the time he was locked away with Richard.

R69 You really think a kept boy wouldn’t follow his daddy around? Richard needed a hole on his many travels.

R39 Not to be bitchy but R36 made a great example of whiteness. It’s a gatekeeping social construct in the US. He sees a person of color because Froy speaks Spanish and is from South America when Froy is clearly of European descent.

But white Americans will look at white South Americans and see brown.

R70, that is why Disney was smart to offer him a movie the same time as Eternals promo because he would deff follow Richard around the world for that.

R66 I read it somewhere on tumblr, I think. One of the tumblrgal fans did his birth sign thing (I guess they might know when he was born), and said he was a triple Taurus.

[quote]that is why Disney was smart to offer him a movie the same time as Eternals promo because he would deff follow Richard around the world for that.

Nothing escapes the mouse dear R72. They were aware Froylan/ Madden are attached by the hip and only a delicious job offer would get Froy off Richard's dick.

[quote]Usually Taurus wouldn’t get a long with Gemini(Madden)

Unless Madden has a lot of Earth signs in his chart or Froy has a lot of Air signs in his chart. There is a clear middle ground there: career aspirations, emotional hangups, the closet, love, etc

[quote]One of the tumblrgal fans did his birth sign thing (I guess they might know when he was born), and said he was a triple Taurus.

Unless we hear it from Froy himself, I would take that with a HUGE grain of salt.

R74, especially since the chemistry between Gemma and Richard’s characters need to be believable and Disney wouldn’t allow the pesky paps find out Froy tagged along at the Eternals world tour while DM hints at their relationship on their articles.

Skin care is what Madden needs as he looks like an old shoe….

Obviously being gay I have no need for this, but there was a time that newspapers carried birth announcement that would usually give all the details including exact time of birth and weight, does this just not happen anymore? They still do engagement, wedding and death notices right?

I wonder what they really have in common? When you see the kinds of things Froy is into vs. what Richard and his 30+year old friends are most likely into, it's like two different worlds.

What kinds of things is Froy into?

Exotic pets.

R79 Pokemon, videos games/gaming, cutesy animals/exotic pets (axolotls, especially), music/writing music, comic book movies, plants/gardening (building terrariums), drawing/art... Pokemon especially. He's obsessed with Pokemon.

R81 - Aww! Too cute. I doubt they "talk" much😉

[quote][R39] Not to be bitchy but [R36] made a great example of whiteness. It’s a gatekeeping social construct in the US. He sees a person of color because Froy speaks Spanish and is from South America when Froy is clearly of European descent. But white Americans will look at white South Americans and see brown.

He's North American. He's from Texas. His dad if from Mexico which is also North America.

Did some retarded US citizen really just go on about Froy being South American!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some Young jap cunt embarrassing her mother with her poor grammar.

[quote]Not to be bitchy but [[R36]] made a great example of whiteness. It’s a gatekeeping social construct in the US. He sees a person of color because Froy speaks Spanish and is from South America when Froy is clearly of European descent. But white Americans will look at white South Americans and see brown.

1) Froy is Mestizo, so he is a person of color. White-looking Mestizos are still Mestizos.

2) No, he is not South American. He was born in the USA. The US/Mexico are not part of South America.

Whatever he’s not from South America.

Mestizo is Spanish and Indigenous. And he’s clearly more Spanish than indigenous. Only “white looking” mixed people are more white than they are whatever the other is.

It’s like if you’re 80% white and 20% something else, you will be identified as the 20% something else and seen as brown.

It’s gatekeeping.

Froy is white as fuck.

Look at this person of color! Indigenous Mexican.

Why does this guy's race matter so much? I mean Cody Christian is part indigeous, his mother is part Native Americqan, but I don't see people going on and on about it. Every thread, this seems to be discussed.

he has to pick!

lol

idc,

froy.

R87: if you're 80 percent white, you will be classified as white - esp if you look white, regardless of what the other 20 percent is.

WHO CARES?

No one can accuse Madden of being a racist.

I heard somewhere that Froy has a sex scene in the movie Initiation but cant find it anywhere,I guess I was lied to

R94 Unfortunately, no sex scene shown.

R94 Apologies, that was probably me somewhere as I’ve repeatedly made the joke about him getting screwed in the movie.

Spoiler .

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But he actually gets murdered by being screwed to the door through various points of his body.

[Quote] It’s a gatekeeping social construct in the US. He sees a person of color because Froy speaks Spanish and is from South America when Froy is clearly of European descent.

Uh...he sees Froy as a person of color because Froy very vocally considers himself a person of color r71. Duh. He has talked about how it bothers him that people refer to him as white.

(Now whether you agree with Froy is a different matter, but that's his feeling on this shit)

R97 Froy knows being different will get him more work in Hollywood. Sadly being openly gay is not the right kind of different.

[Quote]I am very passionate and vocal about issues facing people of color, so I find it odd that I am often referred to as a white boy. I totally acknowledge the privilege that comes from being “white passing,” but it bothers me when my Caxcan-native and Mexican roots are erased. When people refer to mixed people as white, they are feeding into the same systems of oppression that erase the stories of POC. There’s a lot of pressure to either tokenize or whitewash myself, and I hope I do not do either of those

He grew up spending summers in Mexico, it's not hard to understand how he didn't feel like a white boy in Texas r98.

R96 Its fine I just hope we will see him fuck one day

[quote] His voice has changed a lot since this interview a few years back.

I'm a non-closeted version of Froy, Latino and white. Spanish is a very lively language so when men are excited the pitch changes a lot, unlike English. I see this on all my relatives.

My voice is deeper in English than in Spanish.

Froy's Spanish is fluent but I just realized that Froy misplaces genders all the time in Spanish. He refers to action as a masculine noun and it's feminine, there's many more.

R103 Froy loves fucking with the patriarchy that way.

R104 He might think so now, but in actuality, it's the patriarchy that's fucking him.

R102 That's great but Froy lowered his voice deliberately.

[quote]I am very passionate and vocal about issues facing people of color, so I find it odd that I am often referred to as a white boy. I totally acknowledge the privilege that comes from being “white passing,” but it bothers me when my Caxcan-native and Mexican roots are erased.

I don't actually think a person who is 50% of one race can be said to be "passing." He's a t least 50% white, so he's quite a bit white. He's not pure Caxcan passing as a white man. Btw, Obama is half white but he's referred to as black, not black-passing.

[quote] it's the patriarchy that's fucking him.

Pics please.

Froy’s skin is so clear and bright thanks to his Scottish-made serum!

Luminous!

R109 He must have injected the serum recently, since he looks so puffy. And the pic liked by younggoth (Miles Heizer) within 10 minutes... What's with that?

R102 That may be true, but Froy's natural voice in English is not that deep. Nowhere close. He's deliberately lowering his voice these days.

Froy's new selfie from today, and R109 's link (and low and behold - his love of...Pokemon! R79) -

Are they still together ladies

Did Richard visit Froy after his promotional tour?

R115 Of course, Richard’s balls were full a man has needs.

R111 I think Froy let the Scottish Serum dry too long. Sometimes there can be some irritation when left on too long.

Madden liked the Pokemon selfie. Must mean they're still together. Dick liked it too btw.

He reminds me of Miss Piggy idk why

Froy is 50% indigenous American? I don't see it on the father.

Or the mother.

Is this actually 05% like Liz Pocahontas Warren?

Anyhow he's improved with age

He looks the same R122. Froy has angles.

R120 R121 His Father is native Caxcan Mexican. His mother is supposedly northern European, or something Nordic.

Oh honey. The father must have a tiny bit of native in him. Caxcan people are dark brown and look nothing like this guy.

R125 Exactly. And hey if Froy's heritage is important to him, that's fine, whatever. I just don't see the big deal, to other people. Okay, he looks 100% European but he has other races in his genetic makeup. We get it.

R125 According to Froy's own father himself, he is 100% Caxcan, with his side of the family originating in Jalisco Guadalajara.

Alright then. I am mistaken. I personally don't buy this man as 100% indigenous Mexican.

R128 Whyever should it matter so much to you? Why exactly are you incredulous? Who is the bloke in question?

The man on the left is Froy's dad. The boy is Froy.

*oops, on OUR right. obviously.

The man looks Mexican to me. There are many different looks to people in Mexico who are considered "native" families. It doesn't necessarily imply they have zero Spanish blood, and are 100% inigenous. In Mexico, I don't believe the tems are used as direct synonyms.

I hope I can help, as I've lived in Spain, speak the language, and have seen much of Mexico. Some indigenous peoples look almost Asian, and I can see that look to Froy's Dad. Some describe it as Chino eyes.

Check out the various features and phenotypes of the different oeoples.

Otomi

Maya

Mixtec

Purépecha

Nahua

Tzotzil

Raráramuri

I may have left some tribes out... apologies.

There are 89 different indigenous languages recognised in the nation.

For you R128

All right, I see the point. But Caxcan is catchall and through hundreds of years many are thoroughly Mestizos. The father maybe 100% culturally Caxcan (dubious because that hasn't made sense for 300 years or longer) but if he took a genetic test he is not 100% Native American. Pulease.

Is it common for 100% Caxcan people to have Spanish surnames?

R135 That I'm afraid I can't answer, but perhaps someone else can.

[quote]According to Froy's own father himself, he is 100% Caxcan

Can you back that up with anything?

I dated a 26 year old black guy when I was 35 too. He was starting his PHD, so we had lots in common. I guess the two have the love for acting in common which should be good enough. I like that they don't lie about dating women and pretty much live in a glass closet.

[quote]Caxcan people are dark brown

Not the ones who have the French genes or have more European blood in them. They are still consider mestizos. Both Abuelo Froyan and daddy Froylan look mestizo.

Well if they are filled with French and Spanish genes, and the history books say they are, they are "culturally" Caxcan and not racially or genetically. That was my point from the start. I realize that nowadays people can be whatever they choose to identify as. Froy attempting to be "mixed race" is a bit much for me - but I'm a cranky old man who doesn't have a lot of patience for this new fangled identity cosplay.

prob 50 percent nordic/anglo, which is mostly viking, which it pretty much what the scottish are.the other 50 is made up of spanish and like 20 native i bet.

idk though.

work it. why not? he is 1/2 mexican and the admixtures that entails.

GO fuck yourselves with your endless race discussion, find a private room, no on giver a flying fuck about that but you to shills.

I was so mad I misspelled everything. so fuck you.

When did Froy and Madden get together? I thought it was February 2020, but was it April instead?

R137 From Froy's own mouth in multiple interviews (on camera and print). He often mentions it as much as possible.

R144 thought they met (and probably fucked) for the first time in December 2019

R146 I've always thought that. There's a hot selfie of Froy shirtless in bed and looking freshly fucked that he posted with the caption "today I woke up happy" in November 2019 in what looks like a hotel room. Always made me wonder...

She says thankful for the mountain, so I always thought both met in mountain during hiking

Sweetest guy. He is a human puppy.

R61 Froy is an exclusive top, you bitch.

R150 That's funny, tell another one. LOL!

R86 He is of color and the color is white.

He is no Mestizo, he is pure Caucasian, can't you see his face . There are white people in Mexico of European, mostly Spanish descent.

Whatever she is, she's exhausting.

At least these facile luvvies have each other. Why the fuck anyone would be interested in them, God knows.

R149 Now that's the Froy I remember. Social, vivacious, open and engaged... what happened?

R154 Met a man, fell in love, cohabitated during a pandemic found that some things are OK about being private about.

R155 You mean getting paid to keep his mouth shut when there's no Dick around.

[quote]From Froy's own mouth in multiple interviews (on camera and print). He often mentions it as much as possible.

Your original comment was, "According to Froy's own father himself, he is 100% Caxcan". I asked you to back this up - in other words, what's the proof of Froy's father saying this. And you say it's from Froy's own mouth...

[quote]There's a hot selfie of Froy shirtless in bed and looking freshly fucked that he posted with the caption "today I woke up happy" in November 2019 in what looks like a hotel room. Always made me wonder...

It was when he went home to Dallas. He woke up happy because he was home, in his mom's house.

R147, Madden was still filming Eternals in November 2019 in the UK. He returned to the US in Feb 2020 when Eternals wrapped.

This is why I thought they started dating in February. The first pics of them together were released in February 2020. They might have been dating for a while before that. But if we go by Feb 2020, that means they've been dating for almost 2 years.

Which means yards and yards of Madden dick up Froy's hot hole.

I agree that it is nice that they aren’t dating women or openly lying about anything. Of course Madden constantly gets tied to his previous female romances in tabloids, but he doesn’t really play it up and remains relatively firm about not discussing his personal life.

R161 Meanwhile, Fard can't be seen together. Their love is so invisible!

There is no way they just met on February 2020, Madden was probably romancing him the months leading up to their pap walk. We know there was some drama after the pap walk because of the subsequent Instas from Froy and in March (??) 2020 Froy makes a post about "being back home" and happy and he was now tweeting from Madden's home rental. Meaning he was back living with Madden. Then in April 2020 he posts about picking up his little aquatic pets from his old home, this is probably when he officially moves in with Madden for good.

R155 Nobody's asking him to be open about his private relationships. We're referring to his overall demeanor.

R157 Sorry, that's the best to go by. If you want empirical evidence, go look up the man's medical records.

And as for the pic I linked, no, that wasn't his home in Dallas. And that room looks nothing like his home and bedroom in Dallas, nor the room he had in his own place in LA (both of which he has shown multiple times).

[quote]And as for the pic I linked, no, that wasn't his home in Dallas. And that room looks nothing like his home and bedroom in Dallas, nor the room he had in his own place in LA (both of which he has shown multiple times).

He had just arrived in Dallas to start filming the pilot for Cruel Summer/Last Summer. He and other cast members posted Insta stories of them there. The next few pictures on his Instagram are in Dallas, while making the pilot. I don't know if he was staying with his family, I just assumed he was. Maybe he wasn't.

Froy just posted on his story. Does anyone know where he is? Is he still in the US?

R166 allegedly Birmingham England

It's kind of pathetic that he seems like some dog on a chain.

Grow a pair.

So people that travel to be with their boyfriends are pathetic?

He is.

Seems to have nothing in his life but to be a doormat.

If he had a career...something...but it seems mostly nothing except being a dog on a leash.

Odd comments On this thread…Froy seems very invested with Richard…for whatever reason….after 2 years..they are still connected… so to responder 170 career should be the driving factor…not…

I am still surprised that they are still together after 2 years…if u look back at original threads (there have been many)..they would last a few weeks…good night

1) Pronouns in bio, yuck.

2) It's not his skincare routine, it's what they paid him to show.

NEXT!

R171 I have R170 blocked. I assume it's a troll as I only block trolls. I recommend you to do the same.

R173 sounds like one of deranged Froy/Madden stalkers.

They live vicariously through this supposed romance.

Can't cop anything to the contrary.

Froy can leave emojis on ig posts with Richard in them (how brave!) but can’t even post a picture of him or tag him on his Instagram. Why does this feel so wrong?

[quote]nothing except being a dog on a leash

Hot!

R175

Madden is waiting on The Bond announcement.

If successful, he will kick Froy to the curb.

Madden may come out eventually during the Bond years but it'll be with someone respectful and not some gold digging twink like Froy.

The Cauliflower lady isn't going to give Bond to a known homosexsicle actor who shacks up with twinks.

R177 Or if not successful, he will blame Froy and kick him to the curb. Hopefully, Froy has his Plan B all figured out.

Not to worry r179. There is plenty of other dick in the Hollywood sea.

Froy is very young, so he could be the first to start searching for new excitements. Madden is in age when you look for stability and a safe nest.

Froy follows Richard everywhere and vice versa. They have already lasted 2 years. Why presume they will break up? I mean, they might, but they have already lasted a lot longer than most people predicted. They seem happy. Why not support them and be happy for them instead of predicting a break up? This is the hottest gay celeb couple currently. Their relationship is an open secret. I say good for them if they make each other happy, and I think they do.

R182 Right on. How would any random poster really know enough about the two of them to rigjtfully accuse Froy as a "gold digging twink"? I well understand that's what passes for"pointless bitchery" here, but it still reads sad and pathetic nonetheless.

Froy is a taurus, he likes the way things are and it wont change.

Some people project themselves on Madden thinking how he will start changing guys like underwear, like they would in his position. He probably had his deal of that in his 20s, because I don’t believe he just realized he was gay in his 30s, while he was a genuine pussyhound before.

I think he made a compromise between career and personal life when he started having "roomates". Guy in his 30s obviously wanted some domestic bliss and wasn’t ready to live on hook ups. And, this ambiguous situation is probably as good as it gets in "woke Hollywood" if he wants to have career.

But, no matter how hypocrite it may seem, it is a big step forward from older generation of closted freaks married to women, who are harassing men around, are involved in rumors about suspicious violence against rent boys etc. And probably it isn’t only Hollywood to blame, but own internalized homophobia and psychological and sexual issues of those old guys. Luckily, the newer generation seems healthier.

R185 You set the bar so low for a pathetic closet case and his boytoy.

R182 it’s hard to support a couple who are closeted. I’ve seen two publications recently detailing all of Richards straight relationships and flings. No mention of Brandon or Froy. I wouldn’t even call Richard glass closeted I think he’s deep in the closet. If that’s what Richard wants that’s ok but the problem is Froy is a lot younger than him and it just feels like he’s going along with being closeted too. Maybe that’s what Froy wants too but I think he’d rather be publicly recognised as Richards boyfriend.

Why da cauliflower lady not be likin the gays?

R187 It will end like all these closet arrangements. Froy will be dismissed and Madden will move on to the next one. That's the whole point of the closet these days. It gives one side maximum control and deniability over the hidden relationship. It's not even about shame of being gay but rather narcissistic control over one's public image.

I think if that happened to Froy he would burn it down and set fire to Madden’s life.

Ibdon't think he would be so nasty R189.

I meant R190

R190 Richards lawyers would take care of that. He will not be allowed to discuss theyre relationship. The press weren’t allowed to ask Richard any personal questions while promoting Eternals.

Well, I believe his little peek out of closet is too much to be considered for James Bond. Too many people know, and there was many insinuations by the media so there would be too many rumors about him. He would have to stop living or even hanging with Froy, must find a girlfriend or wife.

I don't doubt the relationship is pretty serious at this point, and it's certainly fun to speculate and fantasize about what's going on behind closed doors...but truth is, nobody really knows either way. Most of the fans are projecting their fantasies onto it, and almost living vicariously through it to the point that it even makes me cringe a bit.

As for a breakup, if there ever is one...Froy will definitely go into hiding and a hardcore social media hiatus (like he did last time). He deals with pretty serious "mental health issues" that he's brings up quite often, and I don't think he would handle it too well. Noticed that he seems to hide away/isolate/detach when he's not doing well.

I hope Richard learned his lesson from his relationship with Flynn how not to break up with someone. He needs to tell him straight up instead of trying to slowly ghost him without the other person become aware of it until a few months later. He is truly lucky to have 2 partners in a row who tried to respect and accommodate his needs and step back because he is still in publicly in the closet.

New Froy selfie from today (Nov 24) -

New selfie! He looks hot.

R187 Their family and friends all know and all fan girls and fan faggots know too so they aren’t that deeply closeted!!! Not everyone likes parading or showing off their relationship in public.

R199 People here are acting like Madden is keeping Froy captive ffs. Need I remind everyone Madden is not the only one who is closeted. This arrangement probably works for them both.

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R200 do you think they both reached an agreement? Or do you think Froy is terrified of outing Richard because he’s deep in the closet?

R202 I think Froy is happy with status quo, as is Richard. It works for them. Remember, they are not out publicly but it doesn't look like he is hiding Froy from family or friends. I think he is out and proud to those close to him. For the rest (aka public) he probably thinks it's none of their business. Obviously he's concerned about his career too. I'm not making excuses for him btw. He is technically closeted, although glass closeted. Like... those who pay attention can see it for what it is, a romanric relationship. Of course I wish he was out publicly, but I also know that will never happen. At least he doesn't beard up or lie like many other Hollywood actors. He is semi-open with Froy.

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I’m still confused about who exactly these people are who are asking about his skincare routine, that sounds like a very personal and intimate question to pose to someone you don’t know?

R205 It's just an excuse to push skin care products like an infomercial.

I’m beginning to think Richards flings or ex gf were beards. The only reason why anyone ever suspected he is gay/bi is he had his arm round Brandon Flynns neck otherwise I think he would still be deep in the closet.

R207 It's more because Brandon was out of the closet already and dated another gay celeb before.

R207 I think he let himself go in the beginning of his relationship with Brendon. It seems that after he met him, he broke up with girlfriend, moved in with him and walked around laid-back with his hand on Brendon' s neck. And Brendon was already out, which only added to speculations. Don't know how soon he started to be on guard again?

R209 it’s almost like after he broke up with Brandon he went into the closet again. He certainly wasn’t hiding with Brandon. They were spotted everywhere. I remember reading someone had seen Brandon sitting on Richard’s knee. Maybe he was told to keep his relationship with Froy quiet because Froy was only 21 when they hooked up.

R209 He was not thinking with his head at first seeing as how open he was about the tryst with Brandon. Eventually, his "people" got to him and he caved.

R210 It's more like like Froy was found and vetted to be a suitable boy for him. Froy knew the score from the beginning and that's why no conflict about being in the closet.

R211, He cave when he was publicly announced as Ikaris at comic con and from that day forward he slowly distance himself from Flynn.

R211 I agree with you.

He didn't cave. As he used Froy for publicity, just like he used Flynn.

If he were thinking purely about career, he would never have even gone out in public with Brandon or Froy. He obviously wanted to make changes in his thirties to how he lived his life previously.

[Quote] The only reason why anyone ever suspected he is gay/bi is he had his arm round Brandon Flynns neck otherwise I think he would still be deep in the closet.

Are you one of the people who believe he was "caught" doing this? The Sun, with whom he has a relationship, revealed that he and Flynn were living together a month before the first pics (the weed + neck holding pics) came out.

[Quote] I think if that happened to Froy he would burn it down and set fire to Madden’s life.

Some of you clearly know fuck all about Froy. He's more ambitious than Brandon.

R217 theres is no way Richards people set up that pap shoot with Richard and Brandon holding a container of weed cigarettes. Richard looked high or drunk, why else was he was leaning against a lamppost in some of the pap pics and then he was walking with his arm round Brandon’s neck like he didn’t care. You can see the pics of when richard realises he’s being papped in the later pap pics of that day.

If one follows your logic, why did Richard and Brandon go and collect a takeout pizza from a restaurant days later... Why did they go to same pap magnet restaurant that Kanye & Kim attended, which of course led to more pap pics of Brandon and Richard? Why did they take a walk to dinner when Richard was in New York for late night talk show promo, days before Rocketman opened in the US?

Why... Because they wanted to be seen.

R220 You mean that Richard is a straight queerbaiting guy?

No. Richard made a decision to be seen with the men that he's dating. He also decided WHEN we would get to see them together.

R218 More ambitious... is he stupid? Boys like him are a dime a dozen in HW. Even fucking his way to the top would be difficult if some lame teen show is all he got from fucking Richard.

Calvin Klein was fucking a Sean Cody model (hell, he even hosted a celebrity filled birthday part for the Sean Cody guy) until the model fucked it up. It's a topsy turvy world.

And when it comes to the gay world, it's not unsual for a highbrow to meet a lowbrow.

R220 so what changed for Richard? He was so public with Brandon and now it’s like he’s back to being back in the closet. He has not give one detail on his private life or relationships in any recent interview.

Which one's the highbrow and which one's the lowbrow?

R225 What changed is that he was going up in the world and got told he would lose out on A-list job opportunities if he didn't jettison certain liabilities.

What details of his private life or relationships did he give in interviews when he was with Brandon?

[Quote] He was so public with Brandon

We also have the video of Richard running from the paps... And when they were in Europe, they'd leave/return to their hotel 10 minutes apart from each other... It's not a linear progression.

[Quote] What details of his private life or relationships did he give in interviews when he was with Brandon?

He allowed a question about Brandon from the New York Times. That's the extent of it.

What was the question and how did he answer?

He was asked if he and Flynn were dating. He replied that he doesn't talk about his personal life.

How stunning and brave.

Richard qualifies now to be a proud TWOC.

R225, he wasn't out with Brandon, when they were papped at the airport it looks like Richard tried to avoid being seen together and whenever they traveled they arrived 10 min apart separately at a hotel.

R232 I don’t think those questions are allowed by Richard’s team that’s how paranoid and closeted he is now.

R234 the shame in Richard runs deep.

I don't think he's paranoid. He took a bunch of pictures of Froy in Emilia Clarke's house. That's how people knew they were living together. He was also papped M&S-ing it with Froy. He wants a long, low key coming out. It's better than what Luke Evans did.

R237 he didn’t post those pictures that he took of Froy though??

[Quote] he didn’t post those pictures that he took of Froy though??

Are you suggesting that Froy stole his phone?

God, he's such a loser.

Here boy...here boy....come on...come on.

R240, yea, he makes an effort and goes to him not the other way around.

Whatchu talkin bout Willis? Madden lived in Texas for part of the Cruel Summer shoot.

R210 I think he learned a lot from his relationship with Brandon. He doesn't want a repeat of what happened with the messy breakup etc. But I also think the relationship with Froy has a totally different dynamic as they're both closeted. It was different with Brandon who was out. I think Froy is happy with status quo while Brandon who is out probably wanted a more public relationship.

What else can Froy do, does he have a choice?

R244 I don’t think he has a choice. For as long as he’s with Richard he will have to remain in the closet with him.

R245 That is what I believe, too. I don’t think Froy wants to be in the closet or that he has such high aspirations in career that would make him stay in the closet. He would probably be much more comfortable living a normal, carefree life.

Froy has no prospects.

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a sugar daddy, must be in want of his fame and money.”

[quote]What else can Froy do, does he have a choice?

Of course he has a choice! Swallow or spit.

R246 He wasn't out when he got together with Madden. He seemed perfectly happy being closeted (at least glass closeted) back then.

R249 perfectly happy with long bouts of depression and mental health issues…

R250 At least he's getting dick now...

r249 r251 is diseased.

Some of you are so dishonest. You've cast Froy as the victim, despite his history proving the contrary.

Froy was closeted long before Madden. When he became known from Teen Wolf he purposely hid his sexuality. I don't know why people are pretending otherwise.

R254 Exactly.

And he doubled down with his music.

r255 insane.

Froy is barely in his twenties. It’s not like he’s been married or has had a string of girlfriends. It’s just a pity he’s turning into a sad closet case like Madden. Anything to keep the sugar daddy happy lol.

There are a number of young actors who are out in their teens or 20s. Froy was never one of them so why people think that since he started going with Madden he's forced into the closet is bizarre. There were a few videos where Froy talks about realtionships with girls or what he looks for in a girl (like the carpool karaoke one with the Langes) that have been taken down.

[Quote] It’s just a pity he’s turning into a sad closet case

He has been a closet case - long before Madden. Give up your alternate facts.

R259 That is why this relationship works, they're both closeted. Madden didn't get that with Brandon who was out and proud, hence more scrutiny in the papers about their relationship. There's been a lot less of that with Froy.

If Froy wanted to be publicly out at all, he's an attrative guy who has a craeer and is making money. He wouldn't have trouble finding a like-minded guy in or out of the industry. Choosing to be in this relationship says a lot about what he wants. Unfortunately people have to paint the older person in any realtionship as controlling.

[quote]Choosing to be in this relationship says a lot about what he wants.

Yeah, and what I want is Dick's dick.

R251 No, he is getting ass, I've heard from a reliable source that he is top.

r264 creeper.

Many of you read so much into them being closeted while I simply see it as the defacto condition of the career ladder in their chosen domain. I certainly respect and appreciate actors who come out relatively early in their careers. But I'm not wringing my hands over actors who play "don't ask don't tell" because I'm not standing in their shoes trying to get parts and reaching for the big money in their careers.

And PS - its surprising Madden has reached this high profile as an actor. I've never seen an exceptionally charismatic performance.

He's not gorgeous, like Bomer. He's not intense, and compellingly creepy, like Quinto. He doesn't ooze charm. He must have a great agent.

R268 Still he has this sex appeal for many people. And he is a very masculine fag.

That extra testicle is also an asset!

It's rather irony when he was just a tv actor, which doesn't really require closeting anymore, he was dating women, but when he jumped to big budget movies he dumped the gf and switched to guys. His agent must have been pissed.

"Switched to guys" = "Dropped the obvious beards."

Actors by and large have egos the size of a house.

Madden aspires to be a film star.

You can't begrudge him that whether you think he can or not.

Hollywood does not accept their leading men in film being gay.

Is it the height of hypocrisy? Of course since they accept straight actors in gay roles.

They believe the general public just cant at this moment in time buy the gay man as a romantic lead in film.

You can't blame Madden for playing the game as it is .

Number one for him is his career. Personal life as public is a very distant second.

This Froy twink really should just find a fellow twink his own age. They can go off and listen to their doof doof music and play xbox together.

His movie star ambition begs the question of why date twinks in the first place? He could fuck them in private and we'd never know. But he's made moves that go against the conservative behavior expected of someone like him.

R274 we know he fucks twinks because he dated a famous one. I’m sure there are countless other twinks out there. There’s an overlap between Brandon and his “girlfriend” Ellie so he’s been probably fucking twinks all along on the side of every gf he’s ever had.

R275 I am sure he did, I don’t think he only recently found out that he is gay.

But R274 is right that his behavior is unconventional for a closeted Hollywood actor. He could have continued fucking guys and no one would know, there would maybe only be some rumors that would seem unreliable. There are so many actors who are living like this and you are never sure if the rumors came from someone with considerable imagination.

But he did make an unusual step when he started living with guys. And taking them with him whenever he traveled. Of course coming and going from the hotel ten minutes apart, not being accompanied on events and red carpets, being on guards which is shitty. But, I do think he is braver than typical Hollywood closet case. I think as he became older, he decided that he didn’t want to sacrifice his personal life for career entirely.

And, he could be successful in living in pretense. He seems very masculine and isn’t flaming in the slightest, so the rumors would be dismissed as silly by the majority.

R273 you may as well use bullet points or number them if your going to format it that way. Are you a lawyer?

R273 Unlike others who predict that Richard would dump Froy, like he did it with Brandon, I do believe that it would be Froy who would find another guy eventually. He is just a kid, he hasn't lived his life yet. He has been with this older guy from when he was 21.

Manloada vera

Have we positively identified the specific people asking for his skincare routine yet?

Spunkzema

Richard's jizz is a "skincare routine?"

R283 it’s brimming with alpha hydroxide acids.

How else do you think the majority of DLers are sixty plus but don't look a day over 25 r283?

R275 I have a theory that Madden stepped out of his closet for Brandon, because he developed feelings for him he didn't have before. But that could have been the same thing that scared him, so he had to run away from Brandon, into security.

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Madden wasn't out with Brandon. He was the same type of closeted as now. It's just that Brandon was out and famous so they faced more scrutiny from the paps. Froy is basically a nobody, hence we don't get as many pap pics of them together.

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To be an actor whose career is public, and to have to hide your sexual nature, seems like a guarantee of psychological problems. Actors are already making their living pretending to be people they aren't. Then these two guys have to go through a lot of elaborate ruses, never taking selfies together or being together in the photos of their friends - and then, their friends and relatives must also have to play along. If nothing else it must be incredibly wearing.

R287 I never said he was out, but he behaved rather recklessly for someone who wanted to stay in closet. He left his girlfriend, started to live with Brandon, they always traveled together etc. Walked the street holding him. Before Brandon I don't think there were even rumors about him in public. So, he definitely made this lifechanging decisions for him. Things you wouldn't do for some fling. But, as I said it didn't last long and I think that it could have something to do with Richard's fear.

I meant R288

[quote]Walked the street holding him.

I only remember one photo where Richard was touching the back of Brandon's neck or shoulders. I assumed it was for a few seconds.

Mr &Mrs general public have no idea about Madden's private life. Say Froy and they would say, "what's a Froy?"

The obsession of his gayness & twink romances are exclusive to boards like this, some gay circles who are obsessed with him and the odd low rent gossip rag.

Mr & Mrs average Joe & Jan probably think he is straight. Not that it ever much crosses their mind much .

They just think "King Of The North!"

R294 For now.

Haven’t there always been rumors about Madden on this site with regard to the staged looking pics taken of him and other women? I still wonder how he knew who Froy was, and that he’s gay. There has to be a circle of closet gay actors in H’wood. Also wonder how he became aware of Brandon. It’s more likely he pursued them.

I agree that the pic of Froy with some caption is likely attribute to the first night they slept together. Madden moves fast in moving in with his bf’s.

and some loon tumblr gurl/fish that blocks everyone, yet can't resist to seeing what the blocked poster wrote!

cunts are so simple.

[quote]They just think "King Of The North!"

Oh, dear.

He was King Of the North until his death.

R286 Yep, Madden had more guts when high on first infatuation, but once he sobered up he bailed. That's typical of many closeted or bi people.

I bet he just pulled out and came on the floor or sheets and not in sad sack Brandon.

King IN The North!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine if Froy was the name of a Pokémon, that would make him so happy.

Richard and his twinks have been covered numerous times on the Daily Mail. The coverage has been tempered by screened comments.

[Quote] Madden wasn't out with Brandon. He was the same type of closeted as now. It's just that Brandon was out and famous so they faced more scrutiny from the paps. Froy is basically a nobody, hence we don't get as many pap pics of them together.

Faulty logic. The pap pics are less because Richard and his team have agreed on that. Richard and Froy weren't papped in London, Milan or Portugal because they saw to it that they weren't.

r305. the Mouse!

Not all pap pics are agreed upon. Richard himself has said he often will wear the same thing over and over when he's in a particular place, so the paps can't use the pics (since they look exactly like other pics). He wouldn't say that if he had control over every picture the paps take.

So he evades the paps sometimes and other times he doesn't? Hardly. He and Brandon did not have to walk the street to get dinner. They could make a reservation and arrive separately. They gave the paps the pic... a day or two before Rocketman's opening weekend. Funny that.

R308 I've replied to this before: there's no way those pics of Froy with the black trash bag and Madden looking irritated, and both of them looking less than great, was set up in advance or agreed to. The whole set of pics was taken unexpectedly.

Are you kidding? Madden never photographs well in candid pics. And Froy has been accused of being in an abusive relationship with FaceTune.

So you think no pap pics are ever taken without the participation and consent of the subject?

I think the assertion that "Celeb X doesn't look great in this pic, therefore they must not have consented" is unconvincing.

Of course there are lot of PR arranged pap pics, but what would Madden get from speculations about him being gay?

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[Quote] what would Madden get from speculations about him being gay?

He gets to say to his corporate overlords that "Eternals" made X amount at the box office and that his being seen with his boyfriend didn't kill the box office stone dead.

[quote]Froy with the black trash bag and Madden looking irritated

Was Richard scolding Froy?

"Don't make me tell you twice boy! Hurry up!"

He's baring his teeth! What do I do!?

In all seriousness, I'd like to know who the people are who are obsessed with the Madden/Froy relationship.

A lot of us are here for a bit of a lark. It's too tempting not to dive in with the the Madden/Froy crazies who-let's face it-would go through their garbage bin to find vital clues to their romantic standing.

Are the crazies predominantly young twink types getting off on the fantasy of young guy(it could be me!) having a romance with slightly older famous person?

Is it older queens with twink fantasies of the younger hot(subjective) guy being like a dog on a leash to older guy?

Or is it just general losers who likely have never had a relationship, maybe never having even had sex vicariously living through this fantasy romance?

If we're talking DL, it's the gossip nature. The site cared nought for Madden or Froy (or Flynn) individually. The interest would disapper if they came out and lived entirely in the open.

Is it true he eschews an astringent as too harsh on the skin?

At the end of the day, they’re enjoying each other and probably having a very satisfying sex life. No time to follow threads about themselves since they are living life. A leaked sex vid is what needs to be shared.

R290 Exactly. This has been talked about, written about, etc. by many who have either lived that and eventually came out and did the interview/book circuit, or the same has come from those around them who knew and could finally talk. And ask anyone who works professionally in the business and sees this with their own eyes. They pretty much all say the same, that the closet almost always takes its toll, eventually.

R296 I'm sure there is an inner circle of the closeted in Hollywood. They know who each other are, as do most of their peers. It's all very much a "Don't ask, Don't tell" culture in Hollywood. My guess is in these times, they probably know of each other and hook up through social media. I'm sure Madden knows of all the cute twinks, and the young ones know who is available, like Madden. I'm guessing Richard and Froy started through private messaging.

A batter peel

When I was Madden's age, the twinks came after me, not vice versa. There is a endless supply of gaylings who want to "learn everything" and are naturally drawn to guys who are a ibit younger than their dads.

all his melanin formed cute freckles.

He really does have a beautiful skin and adorable freckles. Get rid of you grampa and get with me.

r325 r326

Sure, Madden looks "old" and he doesn't have the best skin, but there's something very attractive about him. He is very masculine and manly. A man doesn't need to be "pretty" or "beautiful" to be sexy or hot. This goes for Madden too. I can see why people find him attractive, including Froy.

New photos released today from the Man About Town UK magazine spread -

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R329 Hot and sexy🥵🤤

R328 He has the most important thing a young bottom would find attractive , lots of money and a big dick.

r331 r332

I find this photo kinda homoerotic

Gentle r333: Is there anyone on the Datalounge you have not blocked?

Ouch. R334, kinda?

Too much misplaced Schaudenfroyde here.

Gemma commented a cute blue heart and fire on Froy’s Man About Town UK post. It’s so crazy that they know each other 😂

R338 Just doing her hag duty... Supporting her boys toy.

Madden already liked Froy's post of the photoshoot. Good to see him supporting his boyfriend.

R340.

r666

r1746

stupid bitch, begone!

[quote]In all seriousness, I'd like to know who the people are who are obsessed with the Madden/Froy relationship.

[quote]A lot of us are here for a bit of a lark. It's too tempting not to dive in with the the Madden/Froy crazies who-let's face it-would go through their garbage bin to find vital clues to their romantic standing.

People are commenting, just like you are. I don't see obsessed crazies here. Maybe look in a mirror.

R342 r343 r344

lol loony bin is mentioning me and i get notified. lol

dumbass

r346

and, no, i'm not looking 'cause it's a stupid number post.

go to the doc and renew your meds.

R329 A lot of people on Instagram are joking about how they liked the picture before Richard Madden.

Wouldn't it be more natural for roommates and friends to have some social media interaction. It looks just awkward and is the laughing stock on SM.

Why do they bother liking each others social media presence if they are hiding they relationship. Its seems like a needless risk if we are supposed to buy that they aren't coming out to protect their careers.

They are quietly (or not so quietly) banging each other while adhering to Dick's axiom of not discussing his private life in public. Not hiding while not proclaiming. I kind of like that.

it is odd. the mouse let froy post the Birmingham pics. or he dgaf. it is odd. perhaps grooming them as some hot disney. gay couple. idk.

R350 You can like posts as friends. It's easily dismissed as nothing more, but gives them a cheap little thrill in being "open".

if there are millions of dollars in possible future salaries at stake it seems dumb a shit. The ticket buyers who might have a problem with Madden being a cocksucker and an action hero, are on social media and are not dumb. Young people all know they are both fudge packers.

Is Jeremy Langmead hooking Froy up with UK publications like Man About Town?

Is Madden's social clique fawning over his current boy? It's obvious they only give a shit while Froy is with Madden. Once it's over, they will act like they don't know him.

Well, Froy is one hot top!

Why can't they be vers?

that is possible but he is friends with all the hags. jenna, wtf ever, he went to valencia with her to a spa over summer!

tat spanish photo shoot. she was there. insta search yourself.

So tops aren't friends with women and don't go go to spas?

His main faghag is that old lady who unfollowed Brandon before anybody else.

Was Jenna a beard? It seems odd that she and Froy would become chummy.

duh!

he friends with all of the hags.

His faghag approve of Froy, she was one who followed him in the beginning while she was the last to follow and first to unfollow Brandon.

I don't think Ellie Bamber and Madden are friendly, are they?

[quote] Is Madden's social clique fawning over his current boy? It's obvious they only give a shit while Froy is with Madden. Once it's over, they will act like they don't know him.

R356 That's the thing. His entire social circle is Madden's social circle right now. I don't even think he's seen his own friends in LA in years. What happens when most, if not all of them, drop, ignore or basically ghost him if this were to end? Froy is already one of those 'mental health issues' Gen Z types that tends to heavily detach when he's not doing well (just like the big hiatus he took after the breakup with Hunter). But now the stakes are higher, everything he's exposed to and making connections with, the lifestyle, etc...I have a feeling that's going to be really hard on him.

Honey, Froy has been an actor since his mid teens. He knows about fakery.

[Quote] Froy is already one of those 'mental health issues' Gen Z types that tends to heavily detach when he's not doing well (just like the big hiatus he took after the breakup with Hunter). But now the stakes are higher, everything he's exposed to and making connections with, the lifestyle, etc...I have a feeling that's going to be really hard on him.

Boo hoo. I bet you've never spared a second to think about how hard it's been on Hunter.

I like Madden way before the gays jumped in when he started going out with these young kids.

I have gone off him somewhat now. A man in his mid thirties stalking out kids barely out of their teens.

Is there something wrong with him?

All this liking of each others instagram posts.

That's something for a 20 year old to obsess over. Not a man in his mid thirties.

Find someone near your own age with a bit of maturity. Very disappointed.

Frankie Grande is 38 and available!

Brandon was 25/26 when they dated. Spare us the fake pedo concern.

[Quote] Find someone near your own age with a bit of maturity. Very disappointed.

You don't sound so mature yourself, fangurl.

R369 I see Hunter has joined the conversation.

ps. Actually, I have thought of Hunter's pov. What that must be like to see your ex move-on-up to that big penthouse apartment in the sky with an experienced older man. Though according to Hunter's post-breakup breakdown, he basically alluded to Froy as the one who cheated/broke his heart. Hmmmm...

Froy today back in RI for more HP2 filming -