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The Diary of Joan Collins...

The Diary of Anne Frank it ain't.

Give Collins credit, she has a nice turn of phrase.

Some amusing excerpts:

I remember when Suzanna was flavour of the month, dating everyone from Elvis Presley to George Best, and a very, very, pretty girl. Now she’s just not.

John Bowes-Lyon, who is sitting next to me and is some distant cousin to David, totally agrees. ‘My dear, he is a terrible snob,’ says Bosie. ‘He often doesn’t speak to people and he’s also a crashing bore.’ That’s for sure.

Watched the American Film Institute tribute to Martin Scorsese, which had a considerable lack of glamorous stars, with the exception of Sharon Stone who seemed, as usual, terribly pleased with herself.

Princess Margaret looks regally around, cigarette in place, holding a large Scotch. She’s basically saying to everybody, ‘Come and worship at my shrine.’ But it’s 1997, folks, and nobody ain’t worshipping at any old royal shrine.

--- Forgive the link to the Maul, given the current hysteria. Still, this kind of amusement is what you compromise for.

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by Anonymousreply 344November 28, 2021 12:51 AM

She's still alive?

by Anonymousreply 1October 4, 2021 1:13 PM

If so, does she know it?

by Anonymousreply 2October 4, 2021 1:15 PM

Probably ghostwritten. Who's Suzanna?

by Anonymousreply 3October 4, 2021 1:15 PM

A nice turn off phrase OP? Those examples are pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 4October 4, 2021 1:21 PM

She should have done Mirror!Edith Keeler, who knifes Kirk in the back, then looks into the camera laughing evilly.

by Anonymousreply 5October 4, 2021 1:21 PM

Turn of phrase, dear.

by Anonymousreply 6October 4, 2021 1:30 PM

R3, I think she's referring to Susan George.

by Anonymousreply 7October 4, 2021 1:31 PM

Oh, well then I agree.

by Anonymousreply 8October 4, 2021 1:31 PM

Joan Collins is a liar...

"I lost the part of Cleopatra to Elizabeth Taylor because I wouldn't sleep with the producers"

Joan Collins would sleep with anyone to get a movie

by Anonymousreply 9October 4, 2021 1:35 PM

That woman belongs in a wax museum.

by Anonymousreply 10October 4, 2021 1:35 PM

Didn't they used to call her the British Open?

Which if Hollywood can be roused to judge, must say something.

by Anonymousreply 11October 4, 2021 1:37 PM

If Joan hadn't aborted Warren Beatty's baby, it would now be 60.

by Anonymousreply 12October 4, 2021 1:43 PM

When Lucille Ball died, her estate included "15 signature red wigs".

How many wigs do we believe Joan has?

by Anonymousreply 13October 4, 2021 1:45 PM

R3, Suzanna Leigh

by Anonymousreply 14October 4, 2021 1:46 PM

Sounds entertaining OP.

by Anonymousreply 15October 4, 2021 1:49 PM

[post redacted because independent.co.uk thinks that links to their ridiculous rag are a bad thing. Somebody might want to tell them how the internet works. Or not. We don't really care. They do suck though. Our advice is that you should not click on the link and whatever you do, don't read their truly terrible articles.]

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by Anonymousreply 16October 4, 2021 1:50 PM

Joan cunting on DL’s beloved Liza:

“Go to a party given by [rich Texan socialite] Lynn Wyatt. Liza Minnelli has put on a lot of weight around the face, probably due to either drink or some kind of substance. She didn’t appear to notice me as I was standing talking to Elton John, and when she did she grabbed me and put me on her knee and hugged me, crooning: ‘My baby, my baby, I’ve missed you.’ These overly excitable displays of emotion are rather cringe-making.”

by Anonymousreply 17October 4, 2021 1:51 PM

Thanks, r14. I don't think Leigh was ever really pretty. Slim and leggy, sure.

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by Anonymousreply 18October 4, 2021 1:53 PM

Say what you will about the old slag, but she was one helluva prime-time-soap [italic]actrice.[/italic]

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by Anonymousreply 19October 4, 2021 1:56 PM

I thought I knew every old-timey actress there was, even the obscure ones. But ever once in a while one pops up that I never heard of. Add Suzanna Leigh to that list.

by Anonymousreply 20October 4, 2021 2:02 PM

R20, Suzanna and Joanie were in a movie called "Subterfuge."

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by Anonymousreply 21October 4, 2021 2:07 PM

Suzanna also had a cameo in "Deadlier Than The Male" with Sylva Koscina and Elke Sommer.

by Anonymousreply 22October 4, 2021 2:12 PM

Leigh had something of a Joanna Lumley quality, but not as photogenic.

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by Anonymousreply 23October 4, 2021 2:16 PM

I learned from Suzanna what kind of movies to star in.

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by Anonymousreply 24October 4, 2021 2:17 PM

Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing?

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by Anonymousreply 25October 4, 2021 2:20 PM

She also looked a little like Tammy Grimes.

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by Anonymousreply 26October 4, 2021 2:21 PM

R25 Is that where babies 👶🏻 come from?

by Anonymousreply 27October 4, 2021 2:23 PM

R25, first time seeing a vagine?

by Anonymousreply 28October 4, 2021 2:24 PM

Basic Instink

by Anonymousreply 29October 4, 2021 2:28 PM

Did she have to sleep with someone for her Empire of the Ants role?

by Anonymousreply 30October 4, 2021 2:31 PM

I love that French & Saunders line about having Cinzano "poured down me twice a year."

by Anonymousreply 31October 4, 2021 3:18 PM

Joan showed her sagging muff on film. She's a whore!

by Anonymousreply 32October 4, 2021 3:47 PM

I like that Joan knows when people are blowing smoke up her ass.

When told Princess Margaret likes her she says, "Bullshit."

When Robert Altman says he'd love to work with her, she knows he's lying.

by Anonymousreply 33October 4, 2021 3:53 PM

Has Joan ever been directed by a quality, well known director?

by Anonymousreply 34October 4, 2021 4:07 PM

R33, but it seems like she is equally put out when people don’t give her the time of day. Reading these she comes across as a very bitter woman who seems determined to exist in a milieu where most people either patronize or snub her but can’t imagine aspiring to anything that isn’t shopping, drinking and hobknobbing in Belgravia, Beverly Hills and the South of France.

by Anonymousreply 35October 4, 2021 4:18 PM

I kind of like the old broad. Don't know why she gets so much shit here. She's probably got scads onf juicy gossip.

by Anonymousreply 36October 4, 2021 4:21 PM

Kenneth Branagh?

by Anonymousreply 37October 4, 2021 4:22 PM

[Quote] Don't know why she gets so much shit here.

You don't know why a Tory gets shit here?

by Anonymousreply 38October 4, 2021 4:22 PM

I'm not a follower of politics in the UK. Tory means nothing to me and her politics doesn't mean she's not got tons of fun gossip.

by Anonymousreply 39October 4, 2021 4:24 PM

She's known for columns - columns that she may not write but she puts her name to them nevertheless - that rub people the wrong way. If UKIP means nothing to you, fine, but right wing bullshit is something others don't ignore.

by Anonymousreply 40October 4, 2021 4:26 PM

[quote] Watched the American Film Institute tribute to Martin Scorsese, which had a considerable lack of glamorous stars,

Who did she really think was going to be there to honor Martin Scorsese... Sybil Danning and Sylvia Kristel? She is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 41October 4, 2021 4:29 PM

Liza! Cybill! ... Cathy Moriarty?

by Anonymousreply 42October 4, 2021 4:30 PM

The truth is that tart was never a good actress. She was only in shitty films.

And would be totally forgotten if she hadn't gotten lucky enough to be cast in a campy night soap where her over-acting was an asset.

by Anonymousreply 43October 4, 2021 4:31 PM

Joan brought the camp, though. Dynasty was drab before her arrival.

by Anonymousreply 44October 4, 2021 4:32 PM

Funniest entry:

[quote] The opening of [the play] Master Class. Faye Dunaway is good as Maria Callas, even though her ass looks like it’s been sliced off in a bacon-slicer. Caught myself nodding off a couple of times.

by Anonymousreply 45October 4, 2021 4:32 PM

Joan says "ass" for backside?

by Anonymousreply 46October 4, 2021 4:34 PM

She should say "bum."

by Anonymousreply 47October 4, 2021 4:35 PM

I think she's tremendous.

by Anonymousreply 48October 4, 2021 4:35 PM

It's exactly how I imagined her life--all she does in go to people's palaces or glamorous resort towns and either snub celebrities she thinks are below her or be snubbed by celebrities who think she is below them.

by Anonymousreply 49October 4, 2021 4:43 PM

she looks great though for 88

by Anonymousreply 50October 4, 2021 4:54 PM

That first catfight between Krystle and Alexis was so lame. I mean, if a bitch causes you to miscarry your baby, are you gonna throw pillows at her? No, I think that you’re going to punch her and maybe break some bones. Subsequent fights were a bit more realistic.

by Anonymousreply 51October 4, 2021 4:57 PM

[quote]"a very, very, pretty girl. Now she’s just not."

Wow. Not much acting needed on Dynasty for her! "Now she's just not" should be a DL burn.

by Anonymousreply 52October 4, 2021 5:04 PM

She was prettier when she was much younger!

by Anonymousreply 53October 4, 2021 5:11 PM

Joan must have known her as a fetus then.

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by Anonymousreply 54October 4, 2021 5:15 PM

Didn’t she claim tha Faye dunaway stopped her dead at a party when she tried to make conversation with her and then recently within the past couple of years she seemed to gleefully share a photo of her sitting with faye and Jerry hall with Joan and Jerry looking great and Faye looking worse for wear. Joan is the queen of shade it seems. Added to that she never seems to have anything nice to say about Linda evans despite anybody else having anything bad to say about evans.

by Anonymousreply 55October 4, 2021 5:19 PM

Was it one of Prince Azim's soirees?

by Anonymousreply 56October 4, 2021 5:20 PM

Evans was a bore on screen.

by Anonymousreply 57October 4, 2021 5:20 PM

Her eyes are too far apart on her face. And her ass is tragically flat. And she must have to put her makeup on with a spatula. How long does it take for her to get ready for a night on the town? She must start at noon…

by Anonymousreply 58October 4, 2021 5:21 PM

I love you Faye!! R58 you get her back for the ass comment!

by Anonymousreply 59October 4, 2021 5:23 PM

In a way, it must be exhausting to be that determined to settle scores. She's like Patti LuPone, without a lot of talent.

by Anonymousreply 60October 4, 2021 5:27 PM

Didn’t she say about the Charlotte Rae scandal that the number one rule in showbiz is do not talk smack about fello celebrities... I guess she’s mellowed on that.

by Anonymousreply 61October 4, 2021 5:29 PM

[quote]"a very, very, pretty girl. Now she’s just not."

Joan made this remark a month before the actress in question died from cancer.

by Anonymousreply 62October 4, 2021 5:30 PM

Charlotte Rae has a REASON to dish Joan.

Charlotte was good friends with Cloris Leachman and Joan called Cloris and bragged that Cloris's husband was fucking Joan. Tacky.

by Anonymousreply 63October 4, 2021 5:34 PM

[Quote] Joan made this remark a month before the actress in question died from cancer.

No wonder Jackie never told Joan about her cancer diagnosis.

by Anonymousreply 64October 4, 2021 5:39 PM

I think Joan telling Cloris that she loved her husband was quite direct and in its way more honorable that doing it all behind Cloris' back.

by Anonymousreply 65October 4, 2021 5:40 PM

So this competitive cunt is STILL releasing bad books?

by Anonymousreply 66October 4, 2021 5:40 PM

England's Deplorables' idea of a sophisticated interesting woman. Naturally, she's just not.

by Anonymousreply 67October 4, 2021 6:19 PM

[quote]Liza Minnelli has put on a lot of weight around the face, probably due to either drink or some kind of substance. She didn’t appear to notice me as I was standing talking to Elton John, and when she did she grabbed me and put me on her knee and hugged me, crooning: ‘My baby, my baby, I’ve missed you.’ These overly excitable displays of emotion are rather cringe-making.

This excerpt neatly summarizes why I love Liza and could never stand Joan, whose snotty self-importance is truly cringe-making.

by Anonymousreply 68October 4, 2021 6:28 PM

Does she mention Warren in her diary?

by Anonymousreply 69October 4, 2021 8:07 PM

She mentions a period in the early 60’s where she required a wheelchair!

by Anonymousreply 70October 5, 2021 12:17 AM

Cheap cunt. Ate at the Hamlet on Sunset during her Dynasty days, and left $3 on a $40 check every time.

It's a pity what was done to her food 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 71October 5, 2021 12:29 AM

The yacht was Bamford's new Virginian which was a spectacular super yacht of the 90s. Valentino's yacht was chic but smallish for a super yacht.

by Anonymousreply 72October 5, 2021 1:55 AM

R61 Liza has never talked smack about other celebrities. It's among her many redeeming qualities.

by Anonymousreply 73October 5, 2021 1:57 AM

Joan's diary in a nutshell:

"My rich friends have lovely homes, impeccability decorated. They used to be slim and young. Now, they are neither. People who ignore me are bores. People who make a big fuss over me are cringy. And people who flatter me are lying."

by Anonymousreply 74October 5, 2021 2:00 AM

Joan only plays nice when there's a phot op, Liza. And even in still photos, she is unable to act.

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by Anonymousreply 75October 5, 2021 2:36 AM

Here's Joan promoting her then upcoming auction with Wendy Williams.

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by Anonymousreply 76October 5, 2021 5:21 AM

[quote] That first catfight between Krystle and Alexis was so lame. I mean, if a bitch causes you to miscarry your baby, are you gonna throw pillows at her?

You're getting the catfights confused.

The first catfight between them, during the show's second year, was in Alexis's "artist's studio" on the Carrington estate, and yes they did throw pillows at each other. Krystle had not yet become pregnant.

The second catfight was the one everyone remembers, and they actually went at it really hard with their hands (or at least stunt men dressed as them did) in the Carrington estate lily pond (it was from the show's third year--which most people consider the show's best year). This was the one which was just after Alexis caused Krystle to lose her baby (by going skeet shooting and frightening Krystle's horse when Krystle went horseback riding).

by Anonymousreply 77October 5, 2021 5:56 AM

[quote] She mentions a period in the early 60’s where she required a wheelchair!

That must have been some period!

by Anonymousreply 78October 5, 2021 5:58 AM

Jill Learns about Joan Collins's Periods.

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by Anonymousreply 79October 5, 2021 5:59 AM

R78, It might have been after a weekend of all-nighters with Warren, who Joan has written was insatiable.

by Anonymousreply 80October 5, 2021 6:02 AM

“Watched the worst film I’ve ever seen called Austin Powers with somebody called Mike Myers and the very pretty Elizabeth Hurley.”

by Anonymousreply 81October 5, 2021 6:05 AM

I love that her judgment of so many women in these depends entirely on whether they are pretty and/or glamorous--and also if they're still popular.

by Anonymousreply 82October 5, 2021 6:09 AM

Joan’s had a great life, she knows everyone—but she’s still an insecure actress.

by Anonymousreply 83October 5, 2021 6:10 AM

This : “ Composer] Leslie Bricusse filled me in on all the behind-the-scenes dramas on Victor/Victoria and the Raquel Welch debacle. Apparently [producer/director] Blake Edwards was completely vile to Raquel, saying: ‘You can’t act, you can’t sing, you can’t dance and you’re no Julie Andrews.’ The poor woman burst into tears and stalked off, as did Blake.”

by Anonymousreply 84October 5, 2021 6:10 AM

I'm sure the book will be a good read - I'll wait a year when it's down to $1 on eBay.

by Anonymousreply 85October 5, 2021 6:10 AM

R84, Well, he was right. I saw Raquel in Woman of the Year and she was an embarrassment.

Stopped the orchestra to start a song over, spoke to people sitting in the front row and broke character during her duet with Marilyn Cooper by laughing throughout it.

by Anonymousreply 86October 5, 2021 6:32 AM

She has always been an amazingly shallow woman. It's in some ways part of her charm (what else would you expect from Alexis?), but it's still pretty jaw-dropping how competitive she is with other women.

by Anonymousreply 87October 5, 2021 6:40 AM

Catty bitch.

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by Anonymousreply 88October 5, 2021 6:44 AM

Does Joan say much about her gay husband in this book?

by Anonymousreply 89October 5, 2021 6:51 AM

I worked with Joan. I love her. She's an icon. But shame on you, Joan...Liza is an international treasure for all time.

by Anonymousreply 90October 5, 2021 7:11 AM

She must be running out of money. I can't imagine what else would possess her to publish such catty observations that her look bad. I suppose she wouldn't make as much if she published them posthumously.

by Anonymousreply 91October 5, 2021 7:25 AM

She's been very, very lucky. She's puddle deep, and utterly self-focused, but is a trouper and hustler. She actually said that shortly before Dynasty she was collecting social welfare checks, and had to front up in dark glasses. The second bit of luck is that she's had energy and good health. And to actually have a younger man at her age who looks after her is remarkable. She still has an apartment in Belgravia, and a house in the south of France, and still travels.

by Anonymousreply 92October 5, 2021 8:57 AM

[quote]She actually said that shortly before Dynasty she was collecting social welfare checks, and had to front up in dark glasses.

To adapt a hallowed DL meme, Joanie On Assistance!

Lucky girl to escape a humiliating pap shot. How The Mail or The Sun would love to have captured her in shades at the social security office.

Imagine The Mail critique: "Just what does one wear to collect dole cheques? How you can match Joanie's casual-smart look!"

by Anonymousreply 93October 5, 2021 9:07 AM

She had pretty much run out of options in Hollywood...I mean, after doing soft core porn and killer ant movies, she really couldn't descend much further down the ladder than that.

by Anonymousreply 94October 5, 2021 10:06 AM

How come here at a gossip site do celebs who dish dirt get instantaneously attacked?

by Anonymousreply 95October 5, 2021 10:18 AM

“Nice turn of phrase” evidently means making rather witless bitchy remarks. Schoolyard level stuff.

by Anonymousreply 96October 5, 2021 10:21 AM

My mother used to say that narcissists live forever. Joan's son has had issues with her and wrote about it in a book.

by Anonymousreply 97October 5, 2021 11:13 AM

R34

Right at the start of her career, Howard Hawks ("Land of the Pharaohs").

by Anonymousreply 98October 5, 2021 11:35 AM

None of this is really gossip, just insults. "This one is ugly." "This one ignored me." "The Kardashians have had plastic surgery." (News Flash!)

I could forgive her being mean if only she actually had something interesting to say.

by Anonymousreply 99October 5, 2021 12:29 PM

R86 I may have been there with you. If you saw a 14 year old boy alone and thought, “there’s future bottom,” it was me. My father had already seen it (with Bacall) so he dropped me off for a Saturday matinee while he hit Brentano’s. I felt like hot shit at the theatre alone. Anyway: what I mostly remember is her character wearing a T-shirt and getting doused with water…the audience erupted in whoops, whistles and applause while Raquel (and her nipples) took a long pause, milking her big moment. It really knocked the show down to the level of Three’s Company, but the audience ate it up.

by Anonymousreply 100October 5, 2021 1:53 PM

R99 Isn’t it just her journal entries, a la The Andy Warhol Diaries?

by Anonymousreply 101October 5, 2021 1:58 PM

The difference is, her luvvie scribblings make the Warhol diaries seem like Proust.

by Anonymousreply 102October 5, 2021 2:16 PM

R53 I like Joan and I suspect we’ll miss her when she’s gone. She got her start through nepotism (her father Joe was a big theatrical agent) but she took that opportunity and ran and survived and had numerous acts: Rank Organisation starlet, Fox contract, marrying Newley, lousy horror films, even worse sex-genre film collaborations with Jackie, real nowheresville in her career and the age of 50–career death for a woman at that time—looming by 1980…then Dynasty and the best 1980s revival this side of Tina Turner.

Ultimately, she was a B version of Elizabeth Taylor, has been supremely unlucky in love, is still insecure, but she has always been a professional and is certainly a consummate name-dropper.

by Anonymousreply 103October 5, 2021 2:26 PM

Can a narcissist be supremely unlucky in love?

by Anonymousreply 104October 5, 2021 2:31 PM

R102 I liked the Andy Warhol Diaries. The content was more akin to “Saw the Culture Club show with Cornelia. She’s getting so fat” and “I wonder if Maxwell Caulfield has a big cock,” which made it more fun, but it also dragged for pages on end—and that was with the benefit of a real publisher—Warner Books—and an editor.

by Anonymousreply 105October 5, 2021 2:35 PM

Cornelia Sharpe?

by Anonymousreply 106October 5, 2021 2:42 PM

Krystle had lost her baby in the first catfight. That's why she showed up with the rifle. She knew Alexis had fired the gun that spooked the horse. The lily pond fight was Krystle snapping because Alexis mocked her for being childless. I think they were trying to adopt Steven's child and it went off the rails.

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by Anonymousreply 107October 5, 2021 2:42 PM

R106 No, “Debutante of the Year” (later, “decade) Cornelia Guest, daughter of C.Z.

by Anonymousreply 108October 5, 2021 2:57 PM

Oh, Joan don't make us choose between you and Liza! Liza or Joan, it's like gay Sophie's Choice!

by Anonymousreply 109October 5, 2021 3:05 PM

That Liza recollection does neither of them any favors. It makes Liza sound like a wind up toy ("I wuv u, I wuv u!").

by Anonymousreply 110October 5, 2021 3:08 PM

R110 Actually, I read it as Liza being drunk/high off her ass.

by Anonymousreply 111October 5, 2021 3:13 PM

R111, where would you get an idea like that?

by Anonymousreply 112October 5, 2021 3:16 PM

Well, she probably was. Isn't she usually?

by Anonymousreply 113October 5, 2021 3:19 PM

It goes beyond drunk, though. It speaks to the perception of Liza's instant and ultimately transient attachment style. Forbidden Broadway even spoofed it with "Liza One Note."

Liza: "You're my best friend. How long have we known each other?"

Piano player: "... Ten days."

by Anonymousreply 114October 5, 2021 3:21 PM

[quote]I may have been there with you. If you saw a 14 year old boy alone and thought, “there’s future bottom,” it was me. My father had already seen it (with Bacall) so he dropped me off for a Saturday matinee while he hit Brentano’s. I felt like hot shit at the theatre alone. Anyway: what I mostly remember is her character wearing a T-shirt and getting doused with water…the audience erupted in whoops, whistles and applause while Raquel (and her nipples) took a long pause, milking her big moment. It really knocked the show down to the level of Three’s Company, but the audience ate it up.

Any musical with Lauren Bacall caterwauling is no high art. Bacall makes Raquel sound like Streisand.

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by Anonymousreply 115October 5, 2021 3:39 PM

Bacall has vocal presence. Welch has none.

by Anonymousreply 116October 5, 2021 3:50 PM

I wonder if they ever tried to get Bea Arthur for "Woman of the Year." The score would have suited her voice. It would also be more believable that an ex of Bea's would end up with Marilyn Cooper.

by Anonymousreply 117October 5, 2021 3:51 PM

[quote]Bacall has vocal presence.

Thank you, Marlee Matlin.

by Anonymousreply 118October 5, 2021 3:58 PM

[Quote] Thank you, Marlee Matlin.

Welch sounds like a beauty contestant, forever plastic and insincere. Bacall is much better on "The Grass Is Always Greener."

by Anonymousreply 119October 5, 2021 4:12 PM

[quote]Can a narcissist be supremely unlucky in love?

Only if all her mirrors are stolen.

by Anonymousreply 120October 5, 2021 4:16 PM

What's with this book I'm hearing about? Did someone just out-cunt me??

by Anonymousreply 121October 5, 2021 4:20 PM

The way Joan tells it, she was a young innocent when she came out to Hollywood, and fellow Fox contract player and pass-around, Marilyn Monroe, warned her about the wolves at the studio. And that every chief and power player from Darryl Zanuck and Spyros Skouras to the head of publicity, wanted a piece of her but she managed to keep them at bay and never ever ever employed the casting couch to get roles. Sure, Joanie. I'm sure you landed those plum, above-the-title roles in "The Virgin Queen" and "The Girl in the Red Velvet Swing" because of your prodigious talent.

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by Anonymousreply 122October 5, 2021 4:28 PM

Dame Joan has always been a bitch. (This, coming from one of her longtime fans.) She dusts off the same old tales once or twice a decade for a book and travelling retrospective about herself. I saw her in Vegas in 2014 and while she was entertaining, it's nothing I'd pay to sit through again. I do wonder sometimes if Percy is twisting her arm to continue to work, and/or if they actually need the $$$ to keep up their jetsetting lifestyle.

The Liza story is sadly hysterical and sounds precisely like something Liza would've done.

by Anonymousreply 123October 5, 2021 4:30 PM

That Elizabeth I portrait of Bette Davis looks like Alastair Sim.

by Anonymousreply 124October 5, 2021 4:32 PM

Farley Granger as the man who never married!

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by Anonymousreply 125October 5, 2021 4:34 PM

Joanie bristles at "glitz goddess."

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by Anonymousreply 126October 5, 2021 4:46 PM

I think Joan was stunningly beautiful in her 50s. I thought she looked a bit goofy in her 20s; maybe she had to grow into her looks.

Joan already released one biography...and then another biography several years later with an update. She doesn't seem like the type to spend time on a diary. I wonder if she just made this shit up.

by Anonymousreply 127October 5, 2021 4:51 PM

R77 is the confused one. Krystle figured out that Alexis was out with her rifle while Krystle was horseback riding. She saw Krystle, fired a shot, causing Krystle’s horse to throw her, causing her to miscarry her baby. Then Krystle confronted Alexis about it. Alexis slapped her and they started fighting. That was their first catfight and that was the reason behind it. In real life, Alexis would have had some bruises or broken bones, as she would have deserved.

by Anonymousreply 128October 5, 2021 4:59 PM

The best style period for Joan was the 1960s.

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by Anonymousreply 129October 5, 2021 4:59 PM

[quote]The way Joan tells it, she was a young innocent when she came out to Hollywood

By the time that slapper got to Hollywood, she'd worn out all the casting couches in England.

by Anonymousreply 130October 5, 2021 6:22 PM

R127 Agree. She probably saved all her old appointment calendars and is using that as a framework.

by Anonymousreply 131October 5, 2021 6:33 PM

As widely spaced as her eyes are in r129 s photo, she could have been declared legally blind with those bangs.

by Anonymousreply 132October 5, 2021 6:47 PM

My, even Sophia Loren isn't spared the Collins cattiness.

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by Anonymousreply 133October 5, 2021 6:53 PM

[quote]By the time that slapper got to Hollywood, she'd worn out all the casting couches in England.

So you were there Great Grandpa?

by Anonymousreply 134October 5, 2021 7:01 PM

Loren's personal style is tacky. Tack. E.

by Anonymousreply 135October 5, 2021 7:05 PM

R133 Does Sophia not own a clean mirror?

by Anonymousreply 136October 5, 2021 7:11 PM

why would someone write catty bitchiness in ones personal diary?

by Anonymousreply 137October 5, 2021 7:13 PM

Because she was raised right?

by Anonymousreply 138October 5, 2021 7:16 PM

What does she say about lucky vanous?? She got to act with him at his peak.

by Anonymousreply 139October 5, 2021 7:26 PM

I really don’t like her. So stuck up.

by Anonymousreply 140October 5, 2021 7:30 PM

R133, Sophia was Aaron Spelling's first choice to play Alexis, but she turned him down.

by Anonymousreply 141October 5, 2021 8:40 PM

R129, Joan's wig looked ridiculous on this WML? appearance in May of 1965 @ 18:00.

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by Anonymousreply 142October 5, 2021 8:47 PM

R142 She stole that from Diane.

by Anonymousreply 143October 5, 2021 8:49 PM

R130, I believe it!

by Anonymousreply 144October 5, 2021 9:00 PM

At least Joan refrained from reporting on her son's schlong.

by Anonymousreply 145October 5, 2021 9:07 PM

Dump is the only person , other than herself, she is justified in calling "ungallant".

by Anonymousreply 146October 5, 2021 9:33 PM

Told this story before here, my friend and I met her at the Chiller autograph show in Jersey. She looked good. My friend handed her the DVD cover for "Empire Of The Ants". It might have been the first time anyone ask her to sign this movie. She looked him straight in the eyes and said..."You like this picture? and he said..."It's Joan Collins being chased by giant ants!" She laughed and said "OK!". It was a cool and funny moment and everyone around laughed. She definitely has a sense of humor about herself.

This is the one sheet and DVD cover

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by Anonymousreply 147October 5, 2021 9:59 PM

Joan's a real piece of shit. She's best friends with piers morgan

That tells you all you need to know about her

She's also friends with jerry hall and rupert murdoch. Again, that's all you need to know about this rotten cunt

by Anonymousreply 148October 5, 2021 10:12 PM

The wrong Collins sister died.

by Anonymousreply 149October 5, 2021 10:20 PM

Joan as Krystle

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by Anonymousreply 150October 6, 2021 1:02 AM

[quote]Joan's a real piece of shit. She's best friends with piers morgan

Best friends huh? Do they hang out and Netflix together?

by Anonymousreply 151October 6, 2021 1:11 AM

Wasn't the last of her partners before her current one bi/gay? He seemed like an opportunistic social climber who fucked men or women to get ahead, including the drug addicted marquess of Bristol who he dated for years and years. Years ago I swear she wrote how she 'knew he came from the gay monde' - basically living a gay life for decades. She wrote how he was a bitchy, controlling shrew who made comments on what she wore all the time.

Bi men are sociopaths.

by Anonymousreply 152October 6, 2021 1:13 AM

Do they paint each other’s toenails and make crank calls? For r148.

by Anonymousreply 153October 6, 2021 1:14 AM

r148 = Meghan, Duchess of Sussex

by Anonymousreply 154October 6, 2021 1:15 AM

Piers laments Joan's housing troubles as her Xmas parties are his favorite,

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by Anonymousreply 155October 6, 2021 1:17 AM

Lucky bitch!

by Anonymousreply 156October 6, 2021 1:38 AM

I got 2 autographed copies of one of her books at the Dollar Tree. 💵

by Anonymousreply 157October 6, 2021 1:47 AM

The Delorables are in the comments under that Daily Fail story putting her down because she dared to say something negative about their God.

by Anonymousreply 158October 6, 2021 2:14 AM

R155 Joan talking about how she assiduously eschewed the casting couch is HILARIOUS.

by Anonymousreply 159October 6, 2021 3:07 AM

I always thought Anthony Newley terribly good looking and one of the most cringe worthy singers out there. He did look like he could fuck you good though. Has Joan ever mentioned their sex life/

by Anonymousreply 160October 6, 2021 3:41 AM

"Joan talking about how she assiduously eschewed the casting couch is HILARIOUS."

We used to call that dame's cunt 'The Role Hole'. To get in that hole, you gave her a role. In Liz's case, a roll, preferably cinnamon.

by Anonymousreply 161October 6, 2021 3:44 AM

I wonder if they compared notes on Warren Beatty.

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by Anonymousreply 162October 6, 2021 3:54 AM

It's the Diary of Anne Skank.

by Anonymousreply 163October 6, 2021 4:06 AM

[quote] Best friends huh? Do they hang out and Netflix together?

You seem retarded. They go out to eat and go on vacations together. Things that best friends do

by Anonymousreply 164October 6, 2021 4:49 AM

R160, I don’t know what Joan has disclosed if anything about her private life with Newley. I do know that Newley was notorious for his penchant for young girls. I saw an interview with Joan in which she denied that her ex-husband was a pedophile but if someone is pursuing 12 year-old schoolgirls I’m not sure how else one would describe it.

by Anonymousreply 165October 6, 2021 4:57 AM

R153 I saw what you did!

by Anonymousreply 166October 6, 2021 5:02 AM

Go to a Covent Garden dinner party and all the cunts are just like Joan. She's an archetype.

by Anonymousreply 167October 6, 2021 5:06 AM

She never made a really memorable film, did she? I saw [italic]Sea Wife[/italic] a few years ago on TMC. It wasn’t bad, but hardly memorable…

by Anonymousreply 168October 6, 2021 1:00 PM

R168, In interviews, she always mentions "Rally Round the Flag, Boys!" as her favorite film and Paul Newman as her favorite leading man.

It's hardly a memorable film and one I'm sure Paul regretted making.

by Anonymousreply 169October 6, 2021 1:17 PM

She was a villainess in the Adam West BATMAN.

by Anonymousreply 170October 6, 2021 1:18 PM

R147 I had her sign my DVD at the same show. She told me she doesn't hate it but that it was a very difficult shoot.

by Anonymousreply 171October 6, 2021 1:25 PM

Did Dame Collins call the killer ant movie a "picture"? "Do you like this picture?" That's worth something! How much was the autograph? A pretty penny I bet!

by Anonymousreply 172October 6, 2021 2:08 PM

Dame JOAN, peasant!

by Anonymousreply 173October 6, 2021 2:23 PM

She's only now insisting she never was on the casting couch because she knows everybody she fucked for roles is either dead or dementia-addled.

by Anonymousreply 174October 6, 2021 2:27 PM

She allegedly got fucked by Harry Belafonte on the set of [italic]Island in the Sun[/italic]. She may have written about it in her first autobiography.

by Anonymousreply 175October 6, 2021 3:07 PM

Her first tell all was Past Imperfect. So that ought to turn on the DL grammar queens.

by Anonymousreply 176October 6, 2021 3:09 PM

I love how Jennifer Saunders says "Harry Belafonte" in the Lucky Bitches sketch. Her impression made me pay more attention to Joanie Santangelo's accent.

by Anonymousreply 177October 6, 2021 3:28 PM

Does anybody remember Joan’s ex boyfriend Bill Wiggins? He was a good looking guy who worked in property, at the time he was 40 and Joan was 54. He was known as ‘bungalow bill’ by his friends because he had not a lot up top but plenty down below.

by Anonymousreply 178October 6, 2021 4:25 PM

R172 $30

by Anonymousreply 179October 6, 2021 4:27 PM

R178, And then there was husband #4, Peter Holm, who Joan will now only refer to as "the Swede".

He wanted financial support from her after the divorce, even picketed her house for the cameras.

Here they are in happier days . . .

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by Anonymousreply 180October 6, 2021 4:34 PM

Remember when she sent Shirley Jones a cease and desist for writing in her book about couple swapping. That was a bit of drama a few years ago. I also remember it was Samantha Eggar who advised Joan to collect unemployment. I always thought eggar would have made a good addition to “dynasty”, it’s a shame that never happened.

by Anonymousreply 181October 6, 2021 5:03 PM

[quote] She never made a really memorable film, did she?

Only if by "memorable" you mean "memorably good."

But "The Bitch" and "Empire of the Ants" were certainly memorable in other ways.

by Anonymousreply 182October 6, 2021 5:14 PM

[quote]She allegedly got fucked by Harry Belafonte on the set of Island in the Sun. She may have written about it in her first autobiography.

It paid the rent and fed the kids, he probably never looked back.

by Anonymousreply 183October 6, 2021 5:22 PM

R180, I remember when "A Current Affair" would regularly cover their divorce. Apparently he had been cheating during the marriage, and his mistress had to testify in court, and she fainted.

by Anonymousreply 184October 6, 2021 5:24 PM

Her husband Anthony Newley wrote and directed an X rated musical. X rated for 1969 times which would be probably PG-13 today. Here is Joan's big number.

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by Anonymousreply 185October 6, 2021 5:25 PM

Wasn't she called Mercy Humppe in that movie?

by Anonymousreply 186October 6, 2021 5:31 PM

And then, dahling, I sang Chalk and Cheese in the West End.

by Anonymousreply 187October 6, 2021 5:33 PM

Oh, r185. Newley must’ve died of shame.

by Anonymousreply 188October 6, 2021 6:06 PM

R188, Why? He wrote it and directed it.

by Anonymousreply 189October 6, 2021 7:07 PM

Newley had such a brief period when he was successful, and then it was all over.

His musicals had stupid plots, but he wrote decent songs.

by Anonymousreply 190October 6, 2021 7:09 PM

That’s why r189. It was that awful.

by Anonymousreply 191October 6, 2021 7:23 PM

Not really. Newley was a child actor, just like Petula Clark.

by Anonymousreply 192October 6, 2021 7:27 PM

The Bitch is "watchable" good, bordering on great. It's camp.

by Anonymousreply 193October 6, 2021 7:28 PM

My dad despised Newley. Said he he couldn’t sing and was perplexed by his success.

by Anonymousreply 194October 6, 2021 7:31 PM

Joan wrote in one of her memoirs that Newley fucked Streisand while they were married.

by Anonymousreply 195October 6, 2021 8:28 PM

Joan Rivers was on the Tonight Show one night wearing a boa, only she told Johnny Carson that it wasn't really a boa, it was one of Tony Newley's eyebrows.

by Anonymousreply 196October 6, 2021 8:31 PM

My father used to play Anthony Newley records (well, one Broadway show, I think). I could not stand the sound of his voice. It was so affected.

I remember someone posting a clip of him in Dr. Dolittle and it was hilariously bad how he was mugging for the camera.

by Anonymousreply 197October 7, 2021 12:24 AM

Y'all have no taste.

by Anonymousreply 198October 7, 2021 12:31 AM

We did Newley's "Roar of the Greasepaint, Smell of the Crowd" in high school for the senior play.

by Anonymousreply 199October 7, 2021 12:31 AM

How I loved her r196.

by Anonymousreply 200October 7, 2021 12:31 AM

from "Luckybitches," the French and Saunders parody of a TV movie about the Collins sisters (here called the "Santangelo" sisters):

(Both sisters are standing behind the back row of the West End theatre where Anthony Newley is performing in "Stop the World, i want to Get Off").

JOANIE SANTANGELO (Saunders): "Who is that... clownish, cheeky sort of fellow?"

JACKIE SANTANGELO (French): "Why that's Anthony Newley, darling... he's the talk of the town!")

JOANIE SANTANGELO: "I mean to HAVE him, Jackie Santangelo. Just. You. Watch."

by Anonymousreply 201October 7, 2021 12:33 AM

Lucky Bitches !

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by Anonymousreply 202October 7, 2021 3:32 AM

R202 This is priceless!

by Anonymousreply 203October 7, 2021 5:02 AM

Did she really date Jeffrey Hunter? She really is a “lucky bitch”.

by Anonymousreply 204October 7, 2021 5:07 AM

John Reid found me in the throng and took me into an inner sanctum to see Elton. He was wearing a new brown floppy hairpiece, quite fetching, and a lovely butterfly brooch en tremblant.

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black, Elton's wig?

by Anonymousreply 205October 7, 2021 12:21 PM

"The Opposite Sex," with Joan Collins as Joan Crawford ... on TCM right now! With so many DL faves: Dolores Gray, June Allyson, Leslie Nielsen, Charlotte Greenwood, Alice Pearce, Joan Blondell -- and MISS ANN MILLER!

by Anonymousreply 206October 7, 2021 4:49 PM

Anthony Newley of the Royal Marines

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by Anonymousreply 207October 7, 2021 6:15 PM

R19 Joan Collins wardrobe in Dynasty was fabulous!

by Anonymousreply 208October 7, 2021 6:20 PM

There's a long interview to plug the book in The Sunday Times (UK) today.

A few quotes:

The problem we are facing is that Collins is going on holiday to Mallorca the following day and our interview is eating into her packing time. It should be noted that packing for Collins is rather different from packing for you or me: she has been known to take 16 suitcases on her travels. And on top of that, she’s double-booked, facing a photoshoot immediately after our chat.

She is particularly happy about her new book, My Unapologetic Diaries, which is what has brought me to perhaps the last homely house in London’s Belgravia, an area pitted with ambassadorial residences and kleptocrat safe houses. Hardly anyone clapped for NHS carers on her street, she laments. “It was pathetic. It’s people who buy these flats as an investment, mostly Chinese and Middle Eastern.”

She will hate me for saying this, but meeting Collins is a bit like stepping back in time. Her drawing room resembles that of a National Trust house, the walls covered in portraits of long-forgotten grandees. Above her head on the sofa is a huge painting of a fresh-faced dame. Any idea who? “She was the duchess of Austria or something,” Collins assures me. “Nothing to do with me. I just like this kind of room.” The only modern portrait I can spy is one of herself, a pop art affair by Patrick Nagel.

“I don’t live with nostalgia, I live in the present,” she says. Besides, she never loved LA the way she does London, often finding Tinseltown a place of emptiness, insecurity and insomnia.

Collins may have become just a tad reactionary in her later years, but she’s far from a relic. She follows the culture wars carefully and reads the media landscape astutely. Apart from the odd “anodyne” post, she largely steers clear of social media due to cancel culture.

“I don’t want to engage in any way, shape or form with these morons,” she says. Perhaps this is why she doesn’t want to comment on Prince Harry and Meghan either. “I think they’ve had enough oxygen in the press,” she states icily.

When she’s not taking umbrage at activists, Collins likes to savour each day, particularly her breakfast coffee and newspaper routine. But mornings haven’t been the same since Piers Morgan stormed off the set of Good Morning Britain. “He’s more interesting than any of them,” she says. Her gripe with Britain today is that, Morgan aside, no one feels able to speak freely.

After an hour of jawing about Hollywood and history, I’m struck by how dreary everyday existence seems compared with the fairytale of her satin and velvet world. The sheer 16-suitcase, champagne-for-breakfast exuberance of it all feels so distant from the screen-addled introversion of modern life.

Collins is finding the air of national suffering a bit of a downer. “It’s not wrong to want to have a good time, it’s what we all deserve as people,” she says. “For people to say, ‘Oh, we all have to suffer, we’re suffering, prices are going up, there are no lorry drivers, we’re not going to have any heating during the winter,’ well, you can’t all sit around and suffer. I believe that life is a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death.”

She’s fantastically, terrifyingly sharp.

Reminiscing with Joan Collins is like having lunch at the Ritz with Roger Moore, opening a bottle of Bollinger at Ciro’s with Frank Sinatra and heading to a cocktail party at Valentino Garavani’s house with Princess Margaret all at once. It’s a world that you can’t inhabit and possibly wouldn’t want to. But as the lights of high 20th-century glamour continue to dim, I’m glad she’s still here, showing the rest of us just how brightly a life can shine.

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by Anonymousreply 209October 10, 2021 7:46 AM

[quote] Princess Margaret looks regally around, cigarette in place, holding a large Scotch. She’s basically saying to everybody, ‘Come and worship at my shrine.’ But it’s 1997, folks, and nobody ain’t worshipping at any old royal shrine.

Laughable considering Collins has always expected everyone to worship at her own shrine.

by Anonymousreply 210October 10, 2021 8:08 AM

[quote] “I don’t live with nostalgia, I live in the present,” she says.

As she shamelessly tries to capitalise on the gossip from her old diaries

by Anonymousreply 211October 10, 2021 8:23 AM

word is that book is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

by Anonymousreply 212October 10, 2021 8:25 AM

I feel a Mommie Dearest book will come out by Joan's kids once she dies.

by Anonymousreply 213October 10, 2021 10:49 AM

Sacha 4 and Tara 2?

by Anonymousreply 214October 10, 2021 1:40 PM

She is absolutely full of shit, yet I like her. Odd.

by Anonymousreply 215October 10, 2021 2:42 PM

I’m surprised that she doesn’t attend the annual Aintree event. She comes across as that tacky.

by Anonymousreply 216October 10, 2021 4:24 PM

The sorriest era in her life was likely the Random House trial…probably the most humiliating time for her. Being told what she produced was unreadable! Urban Myths did an episode on it.

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by Anonymousreply 217October 11, 2021 4:23 AM

r217 especially when her sister was Jackie Collins. Albeit I find her books unreadable too,

by Anonymousreply 218October 11, 2021 4:50 AM

that's a terrible likeness whoever that is playing Joan, the real Joan must have been furious!

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by Anonymousreply 219October 11, 2021 4:53 AM

I used to go to the same gym on W. 50th Street that her "husband/manager" frequented prior to getting together with Joan.

Sizemeat.

(he most likely dabbled in the homosex back in his Bard College days, but I'm not one to gossip...)

by Anonymousreply 220October 11, 2021 5:25 AM

Apropos of nothing, here's that wig-product-stained chintz headboard some DL queen won at auction.

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by Anonymousreply 221October 11, 2021 5:58 AM

R221, the stuff of nightmares. I’ll always remember that.I’ll never look at that woman the same way again. She was always a whore but to be a filthy whore is a whole nother thing.

by Anonymousreply 222October 11, 2021 6:14 AM

R221 It IS stained. How disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 223October 11, 2021 6:20 AM

She was hooking and showed her sagging snatch prior to Dynasty in those wretched movies.

Whore!

by Anonymousreply 224October 11, 2021 6:22 AM

[quote]especially when her sister was Jackie Collins

Loved that Gore Vidal called them 'the Bel Air Bronte sisters.'

by Anonymousreply 225October 11, 2021 6:59 AM

She should work more.... I enjoyed her in The Royals on E! a few years ago.

by Anonymousreply 226October 11, 2021 7:18 AM

I would've thought that Ryan Murphy would use her more.

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by Anonymousreply 227October 11, 2021 7:24 AM

Her 1983 Playboy cover is high-quality camp, especially the coverline at the very top (sure, Tom!).

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by Anonymousreply 228October 11, 2021 8:24 AM

Why so much hatred, i thought she'd be a DL icon?

by Anonymousreply 229October 11, 2021 9:24 AM

that headboard looks like it's been stained by a dirty head. Does she not wash her hair? Oily hair?

by Anonymousreply 230October 11, 2021 9:26 AM

Water stains. My mattress and pillow get them when I go to bed with wet hair. I guess Joan was getting hers pounded back against the headboard.

by Anonymousreply 231October 11, 2021 9:50 AM

Long-forgotten Hollywood star Stewart Granger, while Joan was at the height of her fame, said Joan would sell her shit if it would make money. He loathed her. I wonder if he rates a mention in the book.

by Anonymousreply 232October 11, 2021 10:09 AM

I think it was her ex-husband Anthony Newley who said that about her.

by Anonymousreply 233October 11, 2021 10:55 AM

Am I the only gay queen who recalls the infamous lily pond fight scene was filmed on the same day the Queen of England visited Hollywood and there was a huge dinner in her honor? Every major star of yesterday and today was there and Joan was of course invited but, perhaps envious of the coverage not going to her, complained to anyone listening that her back was hurt filming the fight scene that day.

by Anonymousreply 234October 11, 2021 10:59 AM

"But as the lights of high 20th-century glamour continue to dim, I’m glad she’s still here, showing the rest of us just how brightly a life can shine."

My but that is a lovely, evocative summary. I do feel sorry for those experiencing their youth now, it is unspeakably dreary in comparison to days gone by.

by Anonymousreply 235October 11, 2021 11:02 AM

Yes, r235. The only glamourpuss kids have these days is Timotheeeeee Chomondelay or however you spell it.

by Anonymousreply 236October 11, 2021 11:10 AM

She's got great health for her age I'll give her that much, and still has her marbles, and still looking for ways to make money.... i guess the life she leads needs money

by Anonymousreply 237October 11, 2021 11:15 AM

"She's common, she can't act - yet she's the hottest female property around these days. If that doesn't tell you something about the state of our industry today, what does?" -- Stewart Granger, 1984

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by Anonymousreply 238October 11, 2021 2:35 PM

[R217], she prevailed.

by Anonymousreply 239October 11, 2021 2:48 PM

What the...with that headboard, did she rub her ass on it instead of wiping? So gross...or did Jackie rub her ass on it to make it look like Joan did///

by Anonymousreply 240October 11, 2021 5:12 PM

Someone threw their coffee at the headboard?

by Anonymousreply 241October 11, 2021 5:18 PM

[quote][R3], I think she's referring to Susan George.

It was likely Suzanna Leigh, Susan George wasn't even very well known before Elvis died.

by Anonymousreply 242October 11, 2021 5:30 PM

What does she say about Mary Ann Mobley's husband?

by Anonymousreply 243October 11, 2021 5:36 PM

Take Stewart Granger's opinions with some salt.

In 1952, Granger starred in Scaramouche in the role of Andre Moreau, the bastard son of a French nobleman, a part Ramón Novarro had played in the 1923 version of Rafael Sabatini's novel. Granger's co-star Eleanor Parker said Granger was the only actor she did not get along with during her entire career. "Everyone disliked this man...Stewart Granger was a dreadful person, rude...just awful. Just being in his presence was bad. I thought at one point the crew was going to kill him."

Granger claimed in his autobiography that Deborah Kerr had approached him romantically in the back of his chauffeur-driven car at the time he was making Caesar and Cleopatra. Although at the time he was married to Elspeth March, he states that he and Kerr went on to have an affair. When asked about this revelation, Kerr's response was "What a gallant man he is."

by Anonymousreply 244October 11, 2021 6:53 PM

He must have been sweet at times.

by Anonymousreply 245October 11, 2021 7:11 PM

R244 sounds similar to what people said about Laurence Harvey and George peppard.

by Anonymousreply 246October 11, 2021 7:47 PM

Joan Collins, 88, dazzles in a semi-sheer bejewelled ballgown as she attends her glittering book event

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by Anonymousreply 247October 11, 2021 10:22 PM

ok i know it's a wig and all smoke and mirrors but that bitch puts together a good act, she looks fuckin great for 88

by Anonymousreply 248October 11, 2021 11:07 PM

How do you make a wig like that look less wiggy? Talcum powder?

by Anonymousreply 249October 11, 2021 11:13 PM

When the midsection goes a bit, I think blazers are the best option.

by Anonymousreply 250October 11, 2021 11:14 PM

Even Anthony Newley said that she'd sell her own bowel movements if she thought she'd make a dollar from it.

by Anonymousreply 251October 11, 2021 11:17 PM

Prob as tough as Joan Crawford but she makes me want to drink champagne and not Pepsi.

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by Anonymousreply 252October 11, 2021 11:18 PM

R244, Hedda Hopper was convinced that Stewart Granger and Michael Wilding were lovers and hinted at it in her column several times.

by Anonymousreply 253October 11, 2021 11:21 PM

[Quote] I kept to my room and listened non-stop to Abba.

Is Sacha...?

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by Anonymousreply 254October 11, 2021 11:29 PM

Stewart Granger and Jean Simmons lived high up on Coldwater Canyon & Mulholland Drive, overlooking the San Fernando Valley. Their frequent Sunday brunch guests were Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Wilding and the British expat community working in Hollywood. The Burtons (Richard and Sybil) came to live with them for awhile, that is, until Dick Burton made a play for Mrs. Granger, whom Burton claimed to have had.

Granger had an outsized ego, which rankled his co-stars and cost him good roles. He blew his chance at playing Norman Main in "The Star is Born" when he walked out on his audition for George Cukor. He apparently didn't appreciate Cukor's advising him how to say his lines. Towards the end of the 1950s, with his career diminished, he refused the part of Messala in "Ben Hur" because he did not want to be billed below Charlton Heston.

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by Anonymousreply 255October 11, 2021 11:59 PM

The headboard is probably stained with hair products. Every oil known to man to attempt softening Joan's brittle aged hair.

by Anonymousreply 256October 12, 2021 12:19 AM

[quote]You don't know why a Tory gets shit here?

The Tory (Conservative) party is rather liberal compared to the American Republican party. You fuckers have NO idea how bad conservativism is here and what we have to put up with. We couldn't give a shit about Tories, they're not all that bad compared to what we have.

by Anonymousreply 257October 12, 2021 12:20 AM

[quote]Every oil known to man to attempt softening Joan's brittle aged hair

Or to try in vain to grow it back ..

by Anonymousreply 258October 12, 2021 1:12 AM

Is that headboard old enough to have some of Warren Beatty's DNA on it?

by Anonymousreply 259October 12, 2021 1:15 AM

R259 No, that was made for her NYC “Dynasty money” apartment.

by Anonymousreply 260October 12, 2021 2:43 AM

The brassière under the sheer gown is distracting, though no doubt helpfully supportive.

by Anonymousreply 261October 12, 2021 3:20 AM

I don't think sheer past the age of 75 is really a good idea.

by Anonymousreply 262October 12, 2021 3:09 PM

She should kill that black wig and just go gray already. She looks like a porn star’s grandmother.

by Anonymousreply 263October 14, 2021 6:09 PM

No dear. I think you mean "She looks like a porn star GRANDMOTHER."

by Anonymousreply 264October 14, 2021 9:20 PM

On some sites it says she was involved in a feud with the starlet Dolores Michaels during the 50s. Anyone know anything or care about that? They worked together on “the wayward bus” so maybe the feud got started there.

Also, in the person to person interview she puts on one of the most annoyingly grating accents I’ve ever heard. No wonder her Hollywood career was not more successful until “Dynasty”.

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by Anonymousreply 265October 16, 2021 3:34 PM

[Quote] in the person to person interview she puts on one of the most annoyingly grating accents

I was about to post this the other day for the very same reason. It makes me respect Jennifer Saunders' Lucky Bitches impression all the more.

by Anonymousreply 266October 16, 2021 3:59 PM

The way she elongates her words makes her sound like Margaret Hamilton in “the wizard of oz”

by Anonymousreply 267October 16, 2021 4:20 PM

From the article in the link at R254:

[quote]In the car park, my mother slumped over the wheel of her gold Mercedes and wept. It was all too much: the pressures of career, of motherhood, of a souring marriage. In front of her was a billboard promoting the film Network starring Faye Dunaway – the same woman who had cut her dead at a party the night before. They had come up together through the ranks, but now Faye was riding the crest of a wave while Mum was struggling to keep her head above water.

Oh, to be at that party and watch Faye snub Joan!!

by Anonymousreply 268October 16, 2021 6:04 PM

Joan and Fay did not come up together. I'll forgive Sacha as he is only 4.

by Anonymousreply 269October 16, 2021 6:45 PM

In Person to Person she's not put on more than everyone else at that time. She's charming enough, IMO.

by Anonymousreply 270October 16, 2021 6:54 PM

But she had a bad voice, unlike the standard at the time. It's surprising that RADA didn't iron out the problems with her voice.

by Anonymousreply 271October 16, 2021 6:56 PM

Faye Dunaway did not "come up together through the ranks" with Joan. Preposterous!

by Anonymousreply 272October 16, 2021 6:57 PM

Yes Joan sounds like a 16 yo posh girl.

by Anonymousreply 273October 16, 2021 6:57 PM

Faye's role in NETWORK was actually supposed to be played by a Brit. Not Joanie Santangelo Collins, of course.

by Anonymousreply 274October 16, 2021 6:58 PM

R270, 1959, pre-Warren Beatty.

by Anonymousreply 275October 16, 2021 6:59 PM

I saw one of her early British films.

She was stunningly beautiful and exuded that trashy sexuality but man, I’m amazed RADA still claims her. She was utterly horrendous. Casting couch was almost certain.

by Anonymousreply 276October 16, 2021 7:00 PM

I doubt the gays who let her into RADA fucked her.

by Anonymousreply 277October 16, 2021 7:04 PM

Joan's nose wasn't great photographed straight on. All other parts of her were fine!

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by Anonymousreply 278October 16, 2021 7:09 PM

R276, Didn't her father's theatrical connections help her to get accepted to RADA?

by Anonymousreply 279October 16, 2021 7:11 PM

Didn't Don Rickles study at AADA?

by Anonymousreply 280October 16, 2021 7:12 PM

I remember E! talking about how there was Supporting Actress oscar nomination buzz for her performance in A Midwinters Tale.

by Anonymousreply 281October 16, 2021 7:17 PM

R273 it’s not posh at all. She seems to be putting on a weird American accent. She should have stuck to her British it was the era of grace Kelly and Audrey Hepburn after all. They all had transatlantic accents.

by Anonymousreply 282October 16, 2021 7:47 PM

She was really the poor man’s Samantha Eggar. I feel Samantha could have done “dynasty” and provided more depth. I’ve always found Joan very superficial performer. I’m surprised she was at RADA from that era. It does not show.

by Anonymousreply 283October 16, 2021 7:50 PM

This assessment of Joan's performance in "The Wayward Bus" pretty much sums up her entire acting career. Inauthentic and artificial:

[quote]Collins doesn’t project any authenticity of yearning or rationale for her character’s actions... Joan is pretty over the top in her solo drunk scenes, all “acting” with no authentic emotion, and further marred by her unconvincing American accent, something that dogged her at her tenure at Fox.

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by Anonymousreply 284October 16, 2021 7:56 PM

Joan may be one those people who absorb accents wherever they are, hence her quasi-American sound in the Person to Person interview above. She seems to have a more RP sound now.

I knew a number of expats from the UK when I lived in Los Angeles and I noticed that they tended to become sort of self-parodies over time, with the accents becoming weirdly exaggerated; I don’t know why.

by Anonymousreply 285October 16, 2021 8:07 PM

Yes, Joan doesn't sound posh at all in that old clip. Her affect was "showgirl who's aiming for a come up."

by Anonymousreply 286October 16, 2021 8:16 PM

When Brits drop or soften their t's, they tend to sound ridiculous. "Sadurday" etc.

by Anonymousreply 287October 16, 2021 8:17 PM

When George Hurrell photographed her for PLAYBOY, he thought she was quite beautiful. He was also perplexed by the fact that she wasn’t a bigger star. He put it down to her having a lousy agent.

by Anonymousreply 288October 16, 2021 9:17 PM

[Quote] He was also perplexed by the fact that she wasn’t a bigger star. He put it down to her having a lousy agent.

And he was fed that opinion, no doubt.

by Anonymousreply 289October 16, 2021 9:57 PM

Has anyone seen "Besieged"?

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by Anonymousreply 290October 16, 2021 10:03 PM

"My filmography is so fucking dire."

by Anonymousreply 291October 16, 2021 10:09 PM

I suspect Joan would be a horror to associate with but from a distance I've always liked her.

by Anonymousreply 292October 16, 2021 10:23 PM

I don't think she has a reputation for being a horror. She has always worked.

by Anonymousreply 293October 16, 2021 10:57 PM

Her son is an interesting painter of portraits.

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by Anonymousreply 294October 16, 2021 11:34 PM

He painted Richard Madden, huh.

by Anonymousreply 295October 16, 2021 11:49 PM

Joan can be a lot of things, a terrible snob and an absolute bitch at times, but I respect her for always working and for always putting herself together the way she does, she always looks presentable.

by Anonymousreply 296October 17, 2021 6:44 AM

What about British grannies who fall below your standard, r296?

by Anonymousreply 297October 17, 2021 7:54 AM

R297 is making a point. I have no idea what it is, but I would argue there's evidence it's going to be a stupid point.

by Anonymousreply 298October 17, 2021 1:11 PM

[quote]When George Hurrell photographed her for PLAYBOY, he thought she was quite beautiful. He was also perplexed by the fact that she wasn’t a bigger star. He put it down to her having a lousy agent.

Even as a younger actress Joan had a hard unsympathetic quality that made her hard to cast, and I think she has always had a narrow range. Once she became typecast as a diva/bitch she didn’t really get the chance to play other parts.

by Anonymousreply 299October 17, 2021 1:29 PM

And her eyes often appear or photograph too far apart and they are small, lost in a face that is broad and wide in every direction. She was never a beauty... she was never star lead material (though I give her credit for being able to be really good at making the most of the material she got. If you look at her first couple of years on Dynasty before it became total crap, she really plays with her voice and her expressions... she's playing a real character and doing a really good job of it.)

Joan strikes me as living later life kind of like someone who gets drunk at a party, says fuck it, and proceeds to stagger and spout through the rest of the evening fuelled by resentment that's stoked by booze - and good with that. She's doing the 'and another thing...' floor show and is amusing and repellent by turn.

In the latest Daily Maul story about her the photographs are a terror. It's either really bad lighting or she's really showing her age.

by Anonymousreply 300October 17, 2021 2:36 PM

She hasn't got the range !

by Anonymousreply 301October 17, 2021 2:38 PM

She stole off with Dana wynter’s career!

by Anonymousreply 302October 17, 2021 2:41 PM

Speaking of Dana Wynter...

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by Anonymousreply 303October 17, 2021 2:48 PM

R303 Geez, the Oscar’s has always been tacky. Who knew

by Anonymousreply 304October 17, 2021 2:52 PM

Also how big is angels Lansbury’s head compared to the other two. Maybe stardom does correlate with head size after all.

by Anonymousreply 305October 17, 2021 2:57 PM

R302, Dana Wynter ended up marrying legendary Hollywood attorney Greg Bautzer, whose cock had entered a number of famous, quality pussies over the years.

by Anonymousreply 306October 17, 2021 3:39 PM

Wasn’t that Evelyn Nesbitt film supposed to be her breakthrough role? What happened with that?

by Anonymousreply 307October 17, 2021 5:13 PM

R307, It was called "The Girl in the Red Velvet Swing." After Marilyn turned it down, it went to Sheree North, and then to Dame Joan. It was not a success, having made $1.3 million at the box office on a budget of $1.7 million. I watched it many years ago and remember being bored with the story and finding the main actors (Collins, Granger) bland and uninspiring.

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by Anonymousreply 308October 17, 2021 5:34 PM

Joan looked great in it. She always looks her best when he hair has volume. (That's partly why the recent book promo pics are bad - not enough volume and the hair is too dark.)

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by Anonymousreply 309October 17, 2021 6:49 PM

*her hair

by Anonymousreply 310October 17, 2021 6:50 PM

[quote]Geez, the Oscar’s has always been tacky.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 311October 17, 2021 7:03 PM

Which daughter had the terrible car accident? It's not on Joan's Wikipedia page.

by Anonymousreply 312October 17, 2021 9:43 PM

Katy. Her last child, with husband called Ron Katz.

by Anonymousreply 313October 17, 2021 9:44 PM

I like the chapter where she claims to have invented the Tom Collins

by Anonymousreply 314October 17, 2021 9:46 PM

R313, Kass, not Katz.

by Anonymousreply 315October 17, 2021 10:10 PM

Shoot me but I though young Jerry Lewis was cute.

by Anonymousreply 316October 17, 2021 10:40 PM

In 1994] I remember one Friday night I called to tell Julie [wife Julie Warren] I would be home late, I was shooting a scene with Joan Collins that we finished around one in the morning. When I finally got home, I was exhausted, but Julie was waiting up for me. "It was quite a night", I told her, and hopped into bed. The next morning, I looked in the mirror and saw there was lipstick on my mouth. And on my shirt. Joan Collins used a lot of lipstick, a tremendous amount of lipstick. At breakfast, I asked Julie, "Didn't you notice anything funny last night?" "Funny? In what way?" she asked slyly. "Just a little lipstick on your collar." "You want to know how I got it? Joan Collins.".

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by Anonymousreply 317October 18, 2021 5:17 AM

John needed a ghost writer. That story was totally unamusing.

by Anonymousreply 318October 18, 2021 5:25 AM

Joan Collins admitted to Andy Cohen when playing Plead the Fifth on WWHL that John Forsythe had the worst breath of any actor she'd ever worked with.

by Anonymousreply 319October 18, 2021 6:20 AM

^^ So I guess she never worked with George Peppard.

by Anonymousreply 320October 18, 2021 6:36 AM

Warren Beatty admitted that out of the 1000’s of pussies that his tongue and fingers have been in over the last 65 years, Joan’s was the stinkiest! He also admitted that Monty Cliff’s shitter was the tightest, yet stinkiest manhole his tongue and fingers had ever been in.

by Anonymousreply 321October 18, 2021 6:43 AM

I know this is a thread about Joan Collins, but must you be so vulgar?

by Anonymousreply 322October 18, 2021 6:49 AM

R319, since she claimed her Dynasty co-stars resented her, perhaps Mr. Forsythe purposely ate garlic and onions before doing scenes with her.

Miss Collins has been so snarky about John and Linda, that it seems they had good reason not to like her.

by Anonymousreply 323October 18, 2021 6:56 AM

Sorry, luv. I’ll be sure to wash my mouth out with soap during my next three-way in a B movie where I just can’t seem to keep my top on or people’s tongues out of my beaver

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by Anonymousreply 324October 18, 2021 6:59 AM

Poor Joan....she could never overcome that cheap quality she had. She always played everything like a cheap shopgirl. That, and she had a hard, metallic quality to her acting but the metalic quality wasn't platinum but more like gilt.

It really never made sense that Alexis was always riding Krystal for being "cheap" and low born when Joan herself always presented herself as cheap and lowborn.

But, you really have to hand it to Joan. For having a rather small talent, she's had a career in show business for nearly 70 years.

Though, NO ONE is buying her story she never slept around to get that career.

by Anonymousreply 325October 18, 2021 7:16 AM

In the episode of The Nanny where Joan plays Mr Sheffields' stepmother, she makes a joke out of being lowbrow and tacky and pretending to be otherwise, and the audience is conditioned to believe she's not just talking about her character, but herself as well. In Britain, with their class system, famous people will be readily reminded of where they came from, Joan can't hide her origins so she has to laugh about it.

by Anonymousreply 326October 18, 2021 10:22 AM

I wonder if a Scorsese or Tarantino offered her a great part but absolutely no drag, no wig or drop of make up, would she have the balls to do it?

by Anonymousreply 327October 18, 2021 10:40 AM

she did a movie where she played an ordinary woman in a nursing home, dowdy, no makeup etc. recently.

by Anonymousreply 328October 18, 2021 11:01 AM

movie was called Gerry....kudos for doing it considering how vain she is

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by Anonymousreply 329October 18, 2021 11:05 AM

ok so she still has the wig on, but that closeup was brave for her....you can see she's had a facelift too, albeit an old one

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by Anonymousreply 330October 18, 2021 11:21 AM

"And where do you get that hoity-toity accent anyway? I mean, you're from Illinois!"

by Anonymousreply 331October 18, 2021 3:57 PM

I wonder, if she hadn’t got a second chance with “dynasty” if she’d have ended up running the queen vic in “eastenders”

by Anonymousreply 332October 18, 2021 6:38 PM

[quote]She was really the poor man’s Samantha Eggar.

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by Anonymousreply 333October 18, 2021 6:44 PM

I'm surprised she never did a "Doctor Who."

by Anonymousreply 334October 18, 2021 7:39 PM

R334 That Bitch has done every Dr. Who, What, When, Where, and Why of the last 40 years. Her vagina is like the London Eye, every tourist and international visitor has taken a ride on it.

by Anonymousreply 335October 19, 2021 6:50 AM

She sounds older now.

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by Anonymousreply 336November 12, 2021 3:55 PM

Tiny.

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by Anonymousreply 337November 12, 2021 3:56 PM

R337, She's curtsying, moron.

by Anonymousreply 338November 12, 2021 4:03 PM

[quote]Tiny.

[quote]She's curtsying, moron.

😂

by Anonymousreply 339November 12, 2021 4:45 PM

She has an ass like a pancake. Always has.

by Anonymousreply 340November 12, 2021 5:11 PM

She looks great.

by Anonymousreply 341November 26, 2021 9:39 PM

[quote]"I lost the part of Cleopatra to Elizabeth Taylor because I wouldn't sleep with the producers"

Oh please. She would have been lucky if she had been cast as the asp.

by Anonymousreply 342November 27, 2021 11:45 PM

Cheap and COMMON!

by Anonymousreply 343November 28, 2021 12:30 AM

Still, she had been an extremely attractive woman who played the rich bitch role her well.

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by Anonymousreply 344November 28, 2021 12:51 AM
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