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by Anonymousreply 345November 26, 2021 4:14 PM

YES!!! Please, don't fuck it up!

by Anonymousreply 1September 28, 2021 11:06 PM

What is Benjamin Bratt up to these days?

by Anonymousreply 2September 28, 2021 11:09 PM

We’ve been telling these motherfuckers to bring back Law & Order for years, and it finally happened. The system works!

by Anonymousreply 3September 28, 2021 11:10 PM

You don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone, and I’ve learned my lesson! I took the show for granted and hardly ever watched it. Now I solemnly swear that I’ll never miss a new episode.

by Anonymousreply 4September 28, 2021 11:12 PM

We'll clamor for Jesse L. Martin or Alana de la Garza and we'll get Milena Govich.

by Anonymousreply 5September 28, 2021 11:13 PM

I will be more impressed and jubilant when they bring back Lenny/Jerry Orbach

by Anonymousreply 6September 28, 2021 11:15 PM

I hope Stephanie March has spent through her divorce settlement from Bobby Flay so they can bring her in.

She was the best female ADA of all the SVU shows.

by Anonymousreply 7September 28, 2021 11:18 PM

* SVU shows = Law & Order shows

by Anonymousreply 8September 28, 2021 11:18 PM

I'd rather they bring back Cagney and Lacey. Or Hill Street Blues.

by Anonymousreply 9September 28, 2021 11:18 PM

I'm available!

by Anonymousreply 10September 28, 2021 11:19 PM

So am I!

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by Anonymousreply 12September 28, 2021 11:21 PM

Isn't Angie Harmon fully occupied by being conservative now?

by Anonymousreply 13September 28, 2021 11:22 PM

I wonder what happened to Michael Moriarty? Other than being drunk…

by Anonymousreply 14September 28, 2021 11:23 PM

Michael Moriarty is supposedly bonkers a la Randy Quaid. He was posting Alex Jones type conspiracy stuff on MySpace back in the 2000's.

A shame because he was a good actor. Speaking of Cagney and Lacey, he did a memorable guest appearance on it playing a Serpico type officer.

by Anonymousreply 15September 28, 2021 11:26 PM

Michael Moriarty was a right wing conspiracy theory nut way before it became a thing. After he left L&O, he moved to Canada, claiming to be a "political refugee" or some such bullshit.

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by Anonymousreply 16September 28, 2021 11:26 PM

Seppetha and Stephanie and Tamara!

Bring back Pino and the hot lesbian character just fired from SVU.

by Anonymousreply 17September 28, 2021 11:28 PM

Finally, something other than "Law & Order: Perverts"

by Anonymousreply 18September 28, 2021 11:29 PM

Is Jesse L Martin coming back?

by Anonymousreply 19September 28, 2021 11:30 PM

Tired of the SVUs. Stopped watching when OIivia got the kid.

by Anonymousreply 20September 28, 2021 11:31 PM

Jesse L would be a good partner for Pino.

by Anonymousreply 21September 28, 2021 11:33 PM

Has Jesse worked since leaving the show?

by Anonymousreply 22September 28, 2021 11:37 PM

Wasn't Jesse one of the stars of RENT? Wasn't that after he left L&O?

by Anonymousreply 23September 28, 2021 11:40 PM

Jesse has a role on The Flash.

by Anonymousreply 24September 28, 2021 11:41 PM

I hope that they will be able to duplicate the magic. Probably the best drama series ever.

by Anonymousreply 25September 28, 2021 11:43 PM

Jerry will be missed.

Will Mr. Big make a brief appearance?

by Anonymousreply 26September 28, 2021 11:44 PM

Is Angie Harmon vaccinated?

by Anonymousreply 27September 28, 2021 11:46 PM

[quote]Probably the best drama series ever.

Excuse me!?!

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by Anonymousreply 28September 28, 2021 11:50 PM

R27, do they allow horses to get vaccinated?

by Anonymousreply 29September 28, 2021 11:51 PM

It would be delicious if Sam were brought back as Manhattan DA, and split his time between criminal cases and Trump cases.

by Anonymousreply 30September 28, 2021 11:52 PM

I'd love to see a "Ripped from the headlines" episode where they investigate corrupt ex-president Ronald Bump

by Anonymousreply 31September 28, 2021 11:54 PM

[quote]What is Benjamin Bratt up to these days?

Who cares? He had his chance!

by Anonymousreply 32September 29, 2021 12:04 AM

I really liked the cast in the last two seasons: Linus Roche, Alana De La Garza, Jeremy Sisto and Anthony Anderson. I wish they had gotten a couple of more years.

by Anonymousreply 33September 29, 2021 12:07 AM

The fact that they were able to still have a compelling show at the end, R33, proves that it had no business being cancelled and bodes well for their chances to “recreate the magic” as someone said earlier.

by Anonymousreply 34September 29, 2021 12:34 AM

It's a joyous day in the day room at the nursing home!

by Anonymousreply 35September 29, 2021 12:36 AM

Jesse L. Martin joined L&O after being a big hit on Broadway in the original cast of Rent. Wolf and the other producers let him miss the last four episodes of Season 15 so he could film the movie version of Rent, which largely used the OBC. Michael Imperoli filled in for him as a different character.

That sort of thing is very unusual. Tom Selleck was the first choice of both Spielberg and Lucas for Indiana Jones but the Magnum PI producers refused to delay that season's start date for two weeks so he could be available, despite being offered numerous incentives to do so. Ironically, Indiana Jones came in under time and under budget and Selleck could have done both. Selleck really stuck it to the MPI producers when his contract came up for renewal.

L&O was cancelled at the last minute, when everyone was taking it for granted it would be renewed. That's why there was no proper finale. Wolf and NBC got in a pissing match over money, so Wolf took his toy and went home. It was a real shame because the show had the best overall cast it had had in several years and the ratings were going up those last three seasons.

by Anonymousreply 36September 29, 2021 12:40 AM

I could never stand that gong or cow bell that accompanied every change of scene. The show is on in reruns as much as the Golden Girls. Now that’s a dated program in need of a fresh perspective. We have entirely too much crime and gloom and stridency on TV as it is, hell, in the world alone. Still, stale scripted drama is preferable to some reality stripe of dung.

by Anonymousreply 37September 29, 2021 1:23 AM

I used to find BD Wong on SVU sexy.

by Anonymousreply 38September 29, 2021 1:31 AM

I miss L&O:LA. I don't think they gave it enough of a chance.

by Anonymousreply 39September 29, 2021 1:35 AM

There was somewhat of a finale. One thing I remember, Van Buren’s cancer was in remission. They were having some type celebration when she found out.

by Anonymousreply 40September 29, 2021 1:37 AM

Let ‘em. Again, I won’t watch it.

by Anonymousreply 41September 29, 2021 1:37 AM

[QUOTE] One thing I remember, Van Buren’s cancer was in remission. They were having some type celebration when she found out.

I hope they bring S. Epatha Merkerson back.

by Anonymousreply 42September 29, 2021 1:40 AM

R39, I liked it, too. I also liked the other failed Law and Order spinoff, Trial By Jury

by Anonymousreply 43September 29, 2021 1:42 AM

That celebration was Merkerson's farewell. She was leaving the show, before it was canceled.

by Anonymousreply 44September 29, 2021 1:42 AM

I never watched LA or Trial By Jury, but wasn’t one of them real and not a scripted drama?

by Anonymousreply 45September 29, 2021 1:44 AM

Merkerson told Wolf and the other suits a year in advance that she wouldn't be renewing her contract and they appreciated that because it gave them plenty of time to write her off. That's one reason they gave her her own story arc that last season (as well as for her years of excellent performances and low key maintenance) and wrapping that up did kind of serve as a show finale.

The rumor at the time was she was going to be replaced by Kathryn Erbe in her Criminal Intent character, Lt. Eames.

by Anonymousreply 46September 29, 2021 1:51 AM

I'm sure they'll have Waterson on for some run of shows. I mean the dude is pushing 80 and probably can't do 22 episodes a year but they might get him for a few eps a year.

by Anonymousreply 47September 29, 2021 1:53 AM

[quote] Alana De La Garza, Jeremy Sisto

I think they’re on a new FBI show. She’s still beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 48September 29, 2021 2:01 AM

Sisto was good, but we’ll do fine without him.

by Anonymousreply 49September 29, 2021 2:17 AM

[quote]I used to find BD Wong on SVU sexy.

BD is great as Awkwafina's dad on her series "Nora From Queens". Its funny hearing BD speak in a New Yawk accent, with a goofy Beatle haircut. His character doesn't exactly dress as well as his L&O character. The show is actually extremely funny. The grandmother is hilarious, she used to be on 'Roseanne'.

by Anonymousreply 50September 29, 2021 2:20 AM

Is BD a NY native like Awkwafina?

by Anonymousreply 51September 29, 2021 2:28 AM

I am going to punish you with death and kill your f---ing dog, r7

by Anonymousreply 52September 29, 2021 2:31 AM

I had a friend who used to always tell me I should watch Law & Order UK. He said it was terrific, and while following the same formula as the US show, it felt fresh and fun. I never did but I kind of want to now.

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by Anonymousreply 53September 29, 2021 2:33 AM

Seasons 1-5 of L&O UK are on Prime for free with ads.

by Anonymousreply 54September 29, 2021 2:36 AM

I was watching a very old rerun this morning from season 2 and Jerry Orbach showed up as a sleazy defense attorney. That was a year before he joined the regular cast replacing Paul Sorvino as one of the detectives.

Isn't it odd that Orbach and Martin both played hard boiled detectives after having been song and dance men on Broadway?

by Anonymousreply 55September 29, 2021 2:40 AM


L&O:UK is great, especially if you like British drama. They've recycled many of the L&O Mothership episodes but with a British twist, consisting of a different legal system and the feel and cadence of British drama - writing and actors.

I loved it. Try a few episodes. The cast is wonderful: hunky Ben Daniels who plays for our team and has long been out, Harriet Walter, hunky (in a more typical way than Ben) Jamie Bamber, and an actor I had never seen before, Bradley Walsh, who is brilliant. There are cast changes along the way, though.

I could go on and on, but TL;DR. I'll put it on my L&O blog.

Oh, and please God no Bratt or Govich, among a few other huge casting mistakes along the way.

by Anonymousreply 56September 29, 2021 2:44 AM

Isn’t Bradley Walsh part of the Fam?

by Anonymousreply 57September 29, 2021 2:49 AM

I knew someone who worked for a subsidiary of Dick Wolf Productions. And he said Dick makes 250 million per year just for the syndication of all his shows!!! For reruns!!! 250,000,000 per year!!! That's not including what he makes for the the initial First run of the shows!!!

Dude is so rich!!!

He likes to keep below the radar, so his paydays are never talked about publicly.

by Anonymousreply 58September 29, 2021 3:01 AM

Good. I love that show in its earlier forms, and I love Criminal Intent with D’Onofrio and Erbe most of all. My least favorite was Goldblum and Burrows.

Because I’m a New Yorker, I know lots of actors who worked on the show. It’s always fun to see them playing a supporting character. Many had repeat appearances as different people; a victim in this episode, a cop in another. And it’s fun to see the various real locations.

Sometimes when I can’t sleep, I’ll put it on and it’s like a lullabye.

by Anonymousreply 59September 29, 2021 3:03 AM

It's always fascinating to see so many New York actors make guest appearances before joining the mothership or one of the spin-offs as different characters as regulars. I never notices that until reruns.

by Anonymousreply 60September 29, 2021 3:07 AM

^ noticed, not notices

by Anonymousreply 61September 29, 2021 3:09 AM

I like how the first episodes really captured the violence and class divisions of the day. The coroners would be completely exacerbated which aligns with the 2000 murders a year back then.

No all white, all rich Manhattan of today’s SVU.

by Anonymousreply 62September 29, 2021 3:12 AM

[quote]It's always fascinating to see so many New York actors make guest appearances before joining the mothership or one of the spin-offs as different characters as regulars. I never notices that until reruns.

It became almost like a game to go to a Broadway show, open your Playbill, and try to find all of the "L&O" references in the actors' bios.

by Anonymousreply 63September 29, 2021 3:23 AM

A Zombie Elaine guest spot, please!

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by Anonymousreply 64September 29, 2021 3:27 AM

It sucked without Orbach and it still will and there sure is no way they're bringing him back. RIP Jerry.

by Anonymousreply 65September 29, 2021 3:28 AM

I remember a few years ago on the Tonys when they showed a clip of Danny Burstein in six different roles in the various L&Os. They mentioned how many New York actors were able to support themselves due to their L&O work. Burstein finally won his Tony on his seventh nomination last Sunday night.

by Anonymousreply 66September 29, 2021 3:30 AM

I am watching it right now on WE tv. (Diane Wiest is the DA.) I’d rather watch an old episode I’ve seen a couple times than whatever new drama the network is pushing.

Can’t wait to see who they cast.

by Anonymousreply 67September 29, 2021 3:38 AM

I have a friend who was on two juries, r66.

by Anonymousreply 68September 29, 2021 3:41 AM

They should cast Danny Burstein!

RIP, Rebecca Luker.

by Anonymousreply 69September 29, 2021 3:41 AM

I never really watched Law And Order. I have watched Law And Order : SVU which was never really a good show even back in ca. 2001. I have also watched in recent years Law And Order: Criminal Intent- that was a good show. The new show with Christopher Meloni STINKS. I will give this new Law And Order a try.

by Anonymousreply 70September 29, 2021 3:42 AM

Patricia Clarkson when she was still dewy.

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by Anonymousreply 71September 29, 2021 3:42 AM

Too bad Jill Henessy's ADA Claire Kincaid was killed off. I always liked her. Now watch as they bring back Elisabeth "Is it because I'm lesbian?" Rohm.

by Anonymousreply 72September 29, 2021 3:45 AM

All the new shows suck now so hopefully this will be good.

by Anonymousreply 73September 29, 2021 3:47 AM

Diane Wiest hated her time on L&O and they very dissatisfied with her work. She left on mutual agreement before her contract was up.

by Anonymousreply 74September 29, 2021 3:53 AM

Love that show. I can’t stand SVU anymore, but I suppose in the beginning it was okay.

My very favorite episodes were the Criminal Intent episodes where Det. Goren played cat-and-mouse with his nemesis Nicole Wallace. I loved them together.

by Anonymousreply 75September 29, 2021 3:55 AM

Please do not bring back Benjamin Bratt or Angie Harmon, the two most insufferable actors of the series.

by Anonymousreply 76September 29, 2021 3:59 AM

SVU was their biggest hit

by Anonymousreply 77September 29, 2021 4:00 AM

Not a D'Onofrio fan, r75. He's so self-indulgent.

by Anonymousreply 78September 29, 2021 4:01 AM

[QUOTE] SVU was their biggest hit

You forgot the fourth S.

by Anonymousreply 79September 29, 2021 4:02 AM

B.D. Wing was on SVU, no?

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by Anonymousreply 82September 29, 2021 4:08 AM

D'onofrio's daughter is a good actress. She just spent two seasons on Animal Kingdom playing the young version of Ellen Barkin's character in flashback scenes.

by Anonymousreply 83September 29, 2021 4:09 AM

Well, Daddy is a hambone, r83.

by Anonymousreply 84September 29, 2021 4:11 AM

I hope they've read all of our notes and suggestions!

by Anonymousreply 85September 29, 2021 4:12 AM

Serena Southerlyn being a lesbian is not enough for 2021. She must come back as a TRANS MAN PLAYED BY ELLIOTT PAGE!

by Anonymousreply 86September 29, 2021 4:13 AM

I want young Jack McCoy deep inside me.

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by Anonymousreply 87September 29, 2021 4:21 AM

I know this is heresy, but in reruns I came to like Elisabeth Röhm as Serena Southerlyn. I worked as support staff in BigLaw for over 30 years and she was very typical. That little twist in her final episode was right on point.

But I still hate that Milena what's her name as a detective. Thank God she didn't last more than one season.

by Anonymousreply 88September 29, 2021 4:23 AM

R87 definitely fuckable.

by Anonymousreply 89September 29, 2021 4:24 AM

R87- I've thought for years that Sam Waterston is gay.

by Anonymousreply 90September 29, 2021 4:25 AM

[quote]SVU was their biggest hit

No, not really. It was the one that somehow, inexplicably, despite Mariska, managed to survive the Wolf/network politics.

In 2010, Wolf could have brought back either the original or SVU for the budget NBC offered him but he was so pissed at NBC, he gave them the weaker show out off spite.

by Anonymousreply 91September 29, 2021 4:32 AM

^ And that was because NBC expected him to take less of a salary than he wanted and he was hugely offended. It's a very long and very complicated story. Both shows could have come back except for Wolf's ego.

by Anonymousreply 92September 29, 2021 4:41 AM

Yes, it was. It beat the shit out of the original in ratings for many years, bigger mainstream appeal and the franchises youngest audience viewership.

by Anonymousreply 93September 29, 2021 4:41 AM

The public can never get enough rape and molestation, r93.

by Anonymousreply 94September 29, 2021 4:43 AM

Law & Order SVU had the highest ratings of the three for years. Law & Order in the 00s didn’t hold the same weight it did in the 90s, and even then some other law/cop shows beat the shit out of it in ratings.

by Anonymousreply 95September 29, 2021 4:43 AM

The new season of FBI SUCKS ASS. Horrible, horrible writing.

by Anonymousreply 96September 29, 2021 4:58 AM

As mentioned above, L&O the original had the best overall cast it had had for years and the ratings were going up each of the last three seasons. Wolf got two paychecks for each of his shows. One for his personal services as creator/executive producer and another for the show's actual budget. He wanted a big increase for each for L&O. NBC thought his demands were over the top and counter-offered a lump sum for the two amounts together. If he wanted a a big personal increase he was free to take it out of the show's budget. Neither side budged and Wolf cancelled the show.

by Anonymousreply 97September 29, 2021 5:01 AM

Waterson has sizemeat.

by Anonymousreply 98September 29, 2021 5:18 AM

How have I - no stranger to television- managed to never watched any second of this show?!

by Anonymousreply 99September 29, 2021 5:27 AM

RIP Lenny, he was my favorite. He had chemistry with whoever you paired him with.

by Anonymousreply 100September 29, 2021 6:16 AM

[QUOTE] As mentioned above, L&O the original had the best overall cast it had had for years and the ratings were going up each of the last three seasons. Wolf got two paychecks for each of his shows. One for his personal services as creator/executive producer and another for the show's actual budget. He wanted a big increase for each for L&O. NBC thought his demands were over the top and counter-offered a lump sum for the two amounts together. If he wanted a a big personal increase he was free to take it out of the show's budget. Neither side budged and Wolf cancelled the show.

Dick Wolf ought to be ashamed of himself.

by Anonymousreply 101September 29, 2021 9:58 AM

Maybe they’ll bring in Corey Stoll from the old LA cast. He was great. Too bad Sisto and Alana de la Gaza are stuck on that FBI show, I’ve never watched it or the Chicago ones but they looked terrible in the commercials. Anthony Anderson was the only one who scored big with Blackish.

by Anonymousreply 102September 29, 2021 12:28 PM

Didn't Alana de la Gaza's character move to L&A: LA? I never watched the LA spin-off. How was the move explained?

by Anonymousreply 103September 29, 2021 1:27 PM

Never have I felt more eldergay. Between this and CSI I can apply my Ben Gay with contentment!

by Anonymousreply 104September 29, 2021 1:43 PM

Yes she showed up in L A. I can’t remember the explanation, was she originally from LA in the show?

by Anonymousreply 105September 29, 2021 1:59 PM

Maybe. I'm just wondering how they made that work with her credentials. When you come to California as a lawyer you cannot just open shop and start practicing. I don't believe you can use your NY credentials to get admitted to the CA bar. Maybe they retconned her to have both states' admissions to the bar.

by Anonymousreply 106September 29, 2021 2:19 PM

I don't remember -- was Annie Parisse's character killed off? Fun fact: her brother (actor Louis Cancelmi) is married to Waterston's actress daughter.

by Anonymousreply 107September 29, 2021 2:26 PM

Rohm was undervalued and wonderful. It was good they didn't kill her off.

by Anonymousreply 108September 29, 2021 2:26 PM

[quote] I don't remember -- was Annie Parisse's character killed off?

Didn't she end up murdered found in a car's trunk?

by Anonymousreply 109September 29, 2021 2:28 PM

[quote]Between this and CSI I can apply my Ben Gay with contentment!

Tell me about it.

by Anonymousreply 110September 29, 2021 2:29 PM

Yep. Borgia and Kincaide were killed. One murdered, one in a fatal auto accident.

by Anonymousreply 111September 29, 2021 2:29 PM

What actually happened behind the scenes with L&O For the Defense? If I remember correctly NBC felt really strongly about it, greenlighting a season order without a pilot - and then it was canceled unceremoniously.

by Anonymousreply 112September 29, 2021 2:31 PM


Don't know, but if he is, I'd be first in line. He's good looking, sexy, a daddy vibe (and I'm older than him), and one of the most natural, intuitive actors I've ever watched.

It's worth watching the show to watch him do his thing.

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It was a tent pole!


by Anonymousreply 115September 29, 2021 3:08 PM

Annie Parisse/Borgia. She was on the L&O ep I watched last night, playing the stripper girlfriend of the lawyer who murdered his wife. I liked her when she was a regular, I’ve liked all of them except Serena. I don’t know why. I mean, she was okay, I just not interested in her coming back. Besides the advice that Fred Thompson’s DA gave her was to become a defense attorney.

Fran Lebowitz returning as a judge!

by Anonymousreply 116September 29, 2021 3:09 PM

Heard that Jeremy Sisto has such a massive dong, it's about time he presents it.

by Anonymousreply 117September 29, 2021 3:10 PM

Richard Brooks as Robinette. He’d be a great returnee.

by Anonymousreply 118September 29, 2021 3:14 PM

Robinette went rogue and went woke and he was kinda annoying when he made some guest appearances though.

by Anonymousreply 119September 29, 2021 3:17 PM

I need the ‘90’s version of Jesse inside me deeply.

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by Anonymousreply 123September 29, 2021 3:23 PM

She went out with a smile, r109.

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by Anonymousreply 125September 29, 2021 3:29 PM

Fun fact: I was in an orgy with BD Wong at the Belvedere in Cherry Grove. He has (or had) a giant prince albert on his cock and and really bangin body.

by Anonymousreply 126September 29, 2021 3:46 PM

r113/r114 - by “Fam” I actually don’t mean he’s gay, lol. He was in the cast of the latest Doctor Who (Jodie Whitaker) as one of three Companions…who she referred to as her “Fam” to the annoyance of the viewing audience.

He was also completely wasted on DW.. And by “wasted” I don’t mean drunk!

by Anonymousreply 127September 29, 2021 3:50 PM

It should be mentioned that one of the ways that L&O:UK is different, is that they don't have the solicitor from the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) present grand closing arguments as Jack McCoy did. So the moral, ethical, case summation that McCoy used to give us every episode is not in the UK version. It's disappointing not to have that "wrap up" - and an odd choice dramatically - but you get used to it.

Watch it anyway.

by Anonymousreply 128September 29, 2021 5:01 PM

[quote] Heard that Jeremy Sisto has such a massive dong

Really? Yum!

by Anonymousreply 129September 29, 2021 5:07 PM

Law & Order and Homicide were two of the best series the big three have ever made. I wish Homicide would be back too.

by Anonymousreply 130September 29, 2021 5:08 PM

I liked all the female ADA’s except Jamie Ross and Kincade. Not sure why I didn’t like Kincade, but Ross came off as a total bitch. Didn’t like Richard Brooks either. After re-watching all of the show, Van Buren brought a lot to the show. I didn’t like Milena either. As far SVU goes, it no longer has some of the “gotcha” writing that it once had. I miss Richard Belzer and Dan Florick. Danny Pino was underrated.

by Anonymousreply 131September 29, 2021 5:13 PM

[quote] Danny Pino was underrated.

Danny Pino's pinga is underrated, too.

by Anonymousreply 132September 29, 2021 5:16 PM

Pino suffered from Jessica Rabbit Syndrome, he was written bad.

by Anonymousreply 133September 29, 2021 5:24 PM

SVU was always much more melodramatic than regular L&O, and I appreciated that during its first 7-8 seasons or so. Eventually it got too campy and the writing turned to complete crap.

This was the moment it completely jumped the shark for me. So much that it took me forever to warm up to Mickey on Shameless!

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by Anonymousreply 134September 29, 2021 6:01 PM

[quote]Is BD a NY native like Awkwafina?

BD was born in San Francisco. He's 60. He's look great. This pic is from 2008, but he still looks good on Awkwafina's series.

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by Anonymousreply 136September 29, 2021 6:10 PM

Very excited about this!

by Anonymousreply 137September 29, 2021 6:56 PM

What the hell is Mariska Hargitay doing kissing Noel Fisher in R134?

by Anonymousreply 138September 29, 2021 7:57 PM

I thoroughly enjoyed each and every performance by Elisabeth Rohm! She seemed so natural!

by Anonymousreply 139September 29, 2021 8:03 PM

I said it. Loved her. I thoroughly enjoyed each and every performance by Elisabeth Rohm!

by Anonymousreply 140September 29, 2021 8:18 PM

[quote] What the hell is Mariska Hargitay doing kissing Noel Fisher in [R134]?

He played a crazy forensic technician. She was trying to distract him from killing Stabler. Yes, it was as stupid as it sounds.

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by Anonymousreply 141September 29, 2021 8:25 PM

Bring back Chambala Greene. I loved how she would grandstand and then be like okay here’s the deal.

by Anonymousreply 142September 29, 2021 8:51 PM

She always had lovely hair.

by Anonymousreply 143September 29, 2021 9:35 PM

SVU didn't jump the shark, it jumped the tiger or the lion, I forget which. Chris and Mariska were in an idiotic episode where they were investigating a gang smuggling exotic animals, including big cats, and Stabler found himself face to face with one though the glories of CGI.

by Anonymousreply 144September 29, 2021 10:35 PM

And not only did it jump assorted wild animals but it also jumped an alcoholic ADA played by Christine Lahti.

by Anonymousreply 145September 29, 2021 10:37 PM

My stars, r145. Did she come to no good end, or what?

by Anonymousreply 146September 29, 2021 10:42 PM

Yes. The deranged lab technician played by Noel Fisher killed her.

by Anonymousreply 147September 29, 2021 10:44 PM

I'll spare you the plot summary that leads up to it, but Annie Parisse was found beaten to a bloody pulp in the locked trunk of an abandoned car. Her mouth was duct taped and she had asphyxiated on her own vomit. Presumably raped, too. The killers were the perps in the case she was working on.

by Anonymousreply 148September 29, 2021 11:08 PM

Has OLEEBIA been promoted to Chief of Police yet in the L & O universe?

by Anonymousreply 149September 29, 2021 11:17 PM

They'll bring McCoy back as a trans mugging victim.

by Anonymousreply 150September 29, 2021 11:17 PM

Think of all the 'ripped from the headlines' stories L & O missed out on by not being around during the Trump years. That is, unless Dick Wolf is a Trumpanzee and wanted to avoid that....

by Anonymousreply 151September 29, 2021 11:22 PM

With so many zombies and vampires and the like running around, maybe they can bring back Mike Doyle in the morgue.

by Anonymousreply 152September 29, 2021 11:37 PM

I just hope they use lots of actors from cancelled NYC soaps again so I can see what my favorite actors look like now.

by Anonymousreply 153September 29, 2021 11:46 PM

Oscar nominated actress Debbie Wings appeared in the final season.

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by Anonymousreply 154September 29, 2021 11:47 PM

^^ That was a wild episode.

by Anonymousreply 155September 29, 2021 11:51 PM

[quote]I just hope they use lots of actors from cancelled NYC soaps again so I can see what my favorite actors look like now.

"Shannon" and "Gwen" from ATWT were on FBI: Most Wanted last night. One looks thinner, the other...not thinner.

by Anonymousreply 156September 30, 2021 12:03 AM

I love, love, love L&O - and only L&O; do not care for The Bobby Show of Nervous Tics and Borderline Breakdowns (aka L&O: CI) or The Filthy Sex Crime of the Week (aka L&O: SVU).

I am really wary of this announcement. Wolf's programs these days are c-r-a-p. The Chicago franchise is just awful and the FBI series (I think there are now 3) are implausible (and someone tells Sisto to stop the Botox...)

L&O occupied a sweet spot for programming for a number of years, a bit under the radar for pop culture, often featuring NY theatre actors and some really fine character actors who got one scene early in an episode, never to be seen again. As NYC became less gritty, so did the exterior shots in Manhattan and thus the program.

I don't think it was very good with McCoy as DA with Roche and de la Garza. The plots became needlessly complex and veered into convoluted. Too many cases of corporate malfeasance that leads to murder.

If it ended early because Wolf and the network played chicken, so be it. We have endless reruns.

I could go on and on with favorite characters and who I'd like to see again, but you'd get bored quickly.

BUT - yea to the poster who remembers Chambala Greene! God I loved her and Lorriane Toussant who played the character. Fabulous... now, if she were the DA, we'd have a program, but the character must be what, 60 now?

I wonder if Chambala and Robinette ever hooked up? Is there money to be made in fantasy sex writings for L&O characters? h'mmm...

by Anonymousreply 157September 30, 2021 12:26 AM

I always remember how on 30 Rock they had a running gag one show:

They're cancelling Law & Order? That's insane.

by Anonymousreply 158September 30, 2021 12:33 AM

[QUOTE] If it ended early because Wolf and the network played chicken, so be it. We have endless reruns.

There’s no such thing as endless reruns. I’m already sick of them, R157. Some stations only play certain seasons and they beat you over the head with episodes you’ve seen three or four times. We need new blood, and we’ve lost 11 years worth of new storylines and characters.

Now if the Linus Roche era went on for 10 more years and the series ended properly in 2020, then maybe I could say I’ve had enough.

by Anonymousreply 159September 30, 2021 12:34 AM

[quote]Anthony Anderson was the only one who scored big with Blackish.

And Jesse on "The Flash."

by Anonymousreply 160September 30, 2021 12:34 AM

I thought Linus Roche was hot.

by Anonymousreply 161September 30, 2021 12:35 AM

R161, me too. I've liked him since I saw him in The Wings of the Dove

by Anonymousreply 162September 30, 2021 12:36 AM

More importantly than being hot, he did an admirable job filling Jack McCoy’s shoes. Of course nobody could touch Jack and his spine tingling closing argument speeches, but Linus kept the show moving at least.

by Anonymousreply 163September 30, 2021 12:54 AM

Linus’ American accent was spot on too.

by Anonymousreply 164September 30, 2021 12:55 AM

[quote]More importantly than being hot, he did an admirable job filling Jack McCoy’s shoes. Of course nobody could touch Jack and his spine tingling closing argument speeches, but Linus kept the show moving at least.

I agree with you but only recently has a local station began rerunning the earliest episodes and Michael Moriarty was fantastic as the DA. He was just as good as Waterston and Roache.

But he left because he is nuts. He's crazy. Very sad life story and of an overall career that could have been.

Wolf really lucked out when he found someone as good as Moriarty, ie, Waterston, to replace the character.

by Anonymousreply 165September 30, 2021 1:38 AM

R165, I totally agree with you. I have read that Moriarty was a raging alcoholic on set, but somehow pulled it together when being filmed. He really was amazing in that role.

by Anonymousreply 166September 30, 2021 1:46 AM

I watched a few seasons of L&O:UK. One thing I’ve never understood. In the UK—and I’ve seen this on many other British police shows—when the police haul in a suspect and question him with his solicitor present, the solicitor never, EVER interrupts the questioning. He sits there mute. There’s no conferring with the client, no objection to the questions being asked. He’s just like an observer. It’s weird.

by Anonymousreply 167September 30, 2021 12:58 PM


That also happens on the Mothership frequently. Not always, but it does, and we yell at the TV and object or ask the questions ourselves. Come to think of it, we also yell "Object!" during the courtroom scenes when the Defense Lawyer should be objecting and doesn't.

Clearly, we are way too invested.

It's all (done or not done) for dramatic reasons, but, you're right; in British scenes they're ALL mute, almost EVERY time. We call them the wall flowers.

by Anonymousreply 168September 30, 2021 2:16 PM

[quote]Fun fact: I was in an orgy with BD Wong at the Belvedere in Cherry Grove. He has (or had) a giant prince albert on his cock and and really bangin body.

Was his ex-husband involved. Or his recent husband?

by Anonymousreply 169October 1, 2021 12:41 AM

[quote]I agree with you but only recently has a local station began rerunning the earliest episodes and Michael Moriarty was fantastic as the DA. He was just as good as Waterston and Roache.

Maybe it was just me but I thought they had actually stopped showing the Michael Moriarty episodes because I hadn't seen them in years. I almost fell off my chair during the shutdown last year when I was channel surfing one afternoon and came across a rerun of the original L&O and it was a Moriarty episode. And yes, he was brilliant in the role.

I think one reason we see Moriarty's seasons far less is because Waterston's Jack McCoy character arguably became the face of the series over the years. An apt comparison would be the way Diana Rigg as Emma Peel became the face of "The Avengers" even though she didn't appear until the show's 3rd or 4th season.

by Anonymousreply 170October 1, 2021 1:09 AM

r170 Or, for a more L&O tie-in: How Peter Graves became the face of "Mission:Impossible," even though he didn't appear until the second season, replacing Steven Hill, aka Adam Schiff!

by Anonymousreply 171October 1, 2021 3:32 AM

About goddamn time!!!

by Anonymousreply 172October 1, 2021 3:33 AM

Bravo, R171!

by Anonymousreply 173October 1, 2021 4:53 AM

The L&O Org Crime episode with all the dismemberment was disgusting.

Eliot fucked Olivia over on the SVU ep before Org Crime.

Now feel it was a mistake to bring Stabler back.

The last show that disgusted me was Criminal Minds.

Sorry, Meloni.

by Anonymousreply 174October 1, 2021 5:26 AM

R170, "Arguably," my arse! Everybody knows I WAS "L&O"!

Who had the best wisecracks, huh? Tell 'em, Rey---"I have ties older than him."

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by Anonymousreply 175October 1, 2021 5:27 AM

Attention must be paid!

by Anonymousreply 176October 1, 2021 7:03 AM

Muriel is it possible to automatically block posts that want to discuss, mention, or disparage L&O:SVU and/or L&O: OC? Maybe there's a filter that can deny accepting the post? You could add key words like Stabler, Meloni, Olivia (or Ole-e-e-e-e-b-i-a).

This thread is about the news that the mothership's return, not the hackneyed, tired, and overwrought SVU and OC.

Thank you,

~ fans of the original and best, L&O

by Anonymousreply 177October 1, 2021 11:34 AM

r177, calm down, or you'll worry yourself into the fits.

by Anonymousreply 178October 1, 2021 2:43 PM

I am sure Muriel will rush to do that, R177. Her passion for curating the site is evident.

by Anonymousreply 179October 1, 2021 2:46 PM

It's all in the casting. I gave up the old show when Anthony Anderson and Jeremy Sisto took over, didn't enjoy it and only watched to see if Dick Wolf would kill off Anita since he treated most of his characters as shit.

by Anonymousreply 180October 1, 2021 3:06 PM


Dick Wolf and S. Epatha Merkerson had an unusually (for him) good relationship. He allowed her time to do theater work and she was very grateful and never rocked the boat.

And he wouldn't have killed her off; the last season on air was her last season on the show and it was an amicable arrangement.

Anita Van Buren was an indelible character. S. Epatha Merkerson did great work when she had the room.

by Anonymousreply 181October 1, 2021 3:23 PM

She did. I really liked her. It's a pretty talented actress can take about six lines with little emotion and turn them into an indelible, likeable character, but she did it. I thought the same about most of the MEs. Theatre actors, real actors, not terribly pretty actors. Mike Doyle was about the best looking of the supporting cast and even his character had a quiet likeability.

by Anonymousreply 182October 1, 2021 3:42 PM

[quote] S. Epatha Merkerson did great work when she had the room.

She played the mother of a child victim early on in Season 1, Episode 17, called "Mushrooms". This was in 1991.

She didn't come on as Van Buren until 1993

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by Anonymousreply 183October 1, 2021 4:18 PM

AR with S. Epatha...

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by Anonymousreply 184October 1, 2021 4:48 PM

Right now I'm watching the episode where Julia Roberts guest starred. She is embarrassingly out of her league with these seasoned old pros.

by Anonymousreply 185October 1, 2021 4:51 PM

It came on, rr185 and I saw it was Julia. I switched to Leave it to Beaver.

by Anonymousreply 186October 1, 2021 5:06 PM

^ r185

by Anonymousreply 187October 1, 2021 5:07 PM


That episode - which was one of the worst primarily because of her and Bratt - illustrated what a very limited actress she was/is. She plays the same character in every movie, but that would be a different thread. She was banging Benjamin Bratt at the time, so that was the connection. Couldn't stand Bratt or his character, Rey Curtis either, but many people like him.

You're so right - I laugh at her attempting to act with real pros. She can't even hold her own with the bit characters, which are small time NYC (real) actors.

by Anonymousreply 188October 1, 2021 7:19 PM

R186, Roberts acted around then. She was perfect as one of the few criminals to get away with her crime. She was delicious. One of my favorite episodes.

by Anonymousreply 189October 1, 2021 7:35 PM

I thought I’d seen every L&O but I guess not because I missed the Julia Roberts one.

by Anonymousreply 190October 1, 2021 9:45 PM

This is a senior citizen's dream come true.

by Anonymousreply 191October 1, 2021 9:50 PM

L&O S9E20 "Empire"

Julia Roberts plays a young Helen Lawson who kills Nealey O'Hara and gets away with it.

Better than YUMMO, it's DE-LISH

by Anonymousreply 192October 1, 2021 9:51 PM

Oh, fuckin' dear, r192.

by Anonymousreply 193October 1, 2021 10:23 PM

Here ya go, r190. The part wasn't a stretch for her. She played a woman having an affair with someone else's husband.

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by Anonymousreply 194October 2, 2021 12:34 AM

The shark jumping episode of Law and Order SVU,S10E7, is on ION this morning.

by Anonymousreply 195October 2, 2021 4:17 PM

R53, I always think that L&O had the feel of a British cop show. All grit and not warm fuzzies. It was about the professional life of the continuing characters.

The L&O: UK turns it into an American cop show. The emotions of the continuing characters are more central. Sentimental music tells you how to feel.

Also, I am guessing that plea bargans are not a big thing in Britain. In the American show, there seem to be more plea negotiations than jury summations. The negotiating gives it that cold hard edge. By contrast, the UK lawyers make emotional speeches and the whole show is a lot more sentimental.

by Anonymousreply 196October 2, 2021 9:27 PM

I have never watched any of the variety of Law and Order shows. But then, I do not watch any police, lawyer type programs. I sure do see a lot of their ads and invitations to not miss them, though. Question: Is it a topic of discussion that this Marissa person looks a lot like Caitlyn Jenner? Just wondering. It is a bit off-putting, I would think. Apparently it has been discussed, based on this photo I have found.

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by Anonymousreply 197October 2, 2021 11:54 PM

You mean the the daughter of Jane Mansfield looks like post op TG? Interesting.

by Anonymousreply 198October 3, 2021 12:10 AM

Y, r198?

by Anonymousreply 199October 3, 2021 12:16 AM

Mariska was actually quite attractive when L&O: SVU began. But that was well over 20 years ago. At this point she has thickened and leathered ungracefully. The comparison to Caitlyn is not unreasonable.

by Anonymousreply 200October 3, 2021 12:17 AM

" At this point she has thickened and leathered ungracefully."

Do tell us, r200, what's *your* secret?

by Anonymousreply 201October 3, 2021 12:30 AM

No secret. I'm an eldergay and look my age. I have to live with it.

What's your secret? And what will it be when you are somewhere between 40 and death?

by Anonymousreply 202October 3, 2021 12:37 AM

Oleebia looked weird in S3.

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by Anonymousreply 203October 3, 2021 12:58 AM

Ever notice the L&O writers use the names of famous people as the perps or victims?

One name which really stood out was the late Layne Staley from the rock band Alice In Chains. Layne was fairly well known to rock audiences, but not many viewers would have caught the name check. I don't remember if Layne's name was used after he died, which would have pointed to a tribute, it could have been used years before his death.

The writers also use names similar to famous people. The other night on SVU, there was a slimy killer named Gabe Navarro, I thought they were saying 'Dave Navarro', the Janes Addiction guitarist.

by Anonymousreply 204October 3, 2021 2:47 AM

Tell me about it, r204!!!

by Anonymousreply 205October 3, 2021 2:54 AM

Mariska needs a facelift.

Her jowls are hard to look at.

by Anonymousreply 206October 3, 2021 3:41 AM

When was it ever gone? It's on every channel on TV as it is.

by Anonymousreply 207October 3, 2021 3:47 AM

R99, not only have I not watched a second of this franchise, I’ve also never watched any in the NCIS franchise. I also never watched Gunsmoke.

by Anonymousreply 208October 3, 2021 8:35 AM

Law & Order is way better than NCIS and Gunsmoke. Where the hell does one even go to watch Gunsmoke?

by Anonymousreply 209October 3, 2021 12:47 PM

NCIS was actually pretty good the first 10-12 seasons. I was really surprised. But it’s gone downhill for quite awhile now.

by Anonymousreply 210October 3, 2021 2:43 PM

R204, Sorry, wrong police procedurals.

"Layne Staley" was used on "Homicide: Life on the Street."

And "close" ("Gabe") is no cigar, nor is "SVU" the topic show.

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by Anonymousreply 211October 3, 2021 3:34 PM

Amen, r65. A-men.

Lennie Briscoe was the absolute best. So many great wisecracks; so much total dedication; so much hard-earned wisdom; so much heartache (his daughter; Claire Kincaid); so much humanity ("Do you forgive me, Lennie?" "All day long, Tommy. All day long.").

Lennie Briscoe, like Jerry Orbach by all accounts, was a mensch.

by Anonymousreply 212October 3, 2021 3:43 PM

R208, La-di-da. You are obviously not a better person for your eschewing.

by Anonymousreply 213October 3, 2021 3:44 PM

[quote] Where the hell does one even go to watch Gunsmoke?

Six days a week, on MeTV.

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by Anonymousreply 214October 3, 2021 3:46 PM

You got it, baby, r191! And? Be thankful somebody is keeping television viable, lest you be forced to watch smaller and smaller devices while your eyesight diminishes as well.

by Anonymousreply 215October 3, 2021 3:49 PM

I'm trying to remember the last alphabet soup network scripted series I regularly watched. It might've been 30 Rock.

by Anonymousreply 216October 3, 2021 3:52 PM

Linus sports a massive, unmutilated dong. He's triply hot.

by Anonymousreply 217October 3, 2021 4:00 PM

[quote]I'm trying to remember the last alphabet soup network scripted series I regularly watched. It might've been 30 Rock.

For me it was Brooklyn Nine-Nine (which I loved). Used to watch The Good Doctor but fell out of it because it went off the rails in my opinion. Also still watch The Conners, though it's beginning to slide a lot, too.

by Anonymousreply 218October 3, 2021 5:32 PM

I would be watching Season 2 of Evil but fucking CBS moved it to their streaming platform. 😡😡😡

by Anonymousreply 219October 3, 2021 5:34 PM

r217=Charlie Brown

by Anonymousreply 220October 3, 2021 6:45 PM

R217, as always when such a claim is made, DataLounge demands... 'pics please' and 'verificata of sizemeat!' or it just isn't true... thereforefore, Linus is "mutilated", he has a small penis and cannot be triply hot.

The ball's in your court hon...

by Anonymousreply 221October 3, 2021 10:40 PM

CBS is reviving the original CSI: Las Vegas with some of the original cast for a limited run of 10 episodes starting this coming Wednesday.

by Anonymousreply 222October 4, 2021 12:03 AM

I’m excited for that r222. Wish Marg was taking part.

by Anonymousreply 223October 4, 2021 12:06 AM

Which CSI cast members are coming back?

by Anonymousreply 224October 4, 2021 12:12 AM

Peterson, Fox and the guy who played Hodges are coming back in their old roles but I think the rest are going to be newcomers.

by Anonymousreply 225October 4, 2021 12:40 AM

Amy Adams...

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by Anonymousreply 226October 4, 2021 12:51 AM


It's VERIFICATIA you moron!

by Anonymousreply 227October 4, 2021 12:53 AM


by Anonymousreply 228October 4, 2021 12:53 AM

[quote]"Layne Staley" was used on "Homicide: Life on the Street." And "close" ("Gabe") is no cigar, nor is "SVU" the topic show.

New around here? DL ALWAYS veers off the main topic of a thread. Get with the program! The world of L&O goes beyond the original series. People in this thread also discussed the UK version, which was shown in the US on BBC America.

Are you sure about 'Layne Staley' being used on 'Homicide'? If his name was used, wasn't Dick Wolf or another L&O producer/writer involved in the Homicide series too? I do remember 'Homicide' using Krist Novoselic and Matt Cameron's names.

Whatever. Anyway, the original L&O and SVU ALWAYS used famous peoples names for the perps or victims or at the very least a name VERY close to a famous person's name.

There is a reason why the writers use a famous person's name or a name close to theirs. It's obviously an inside joke or a tribute..

Don't be so fucking anal.

by Anonymousreply 229October 4, 2021 12:55 AM

As long as they don't use *my* name.

by Anonymousreply 230October 4, 2021 1:44 AM

Paul Guilfoyle as Captain Jim Bragg will also be back on the CSI revival. But yes, largely newcomers.

by Anonymousreply 231October 4, 2021 11:42 PM

ss, r231.

by Anonymousreply 232October 5, 2021 1:22 AM

Jesus, if CSI: Vegas is returning, what assisted living facility/dementia ward will it take place within?

by Anonymousreply 233October 5, 2021 11:37 AM

Shady Pines: Vegas

by Anonymousreply 234October 5, 2021 5:27 PM

OP- I'd rather see this headline-


by Anonymousreply 235October 5, 2021 5:39 PM

r235, watch the ME autopsies...

by Anonymousreply 236October 5, 2021 10:05 PM

Lifealert is a lifesaver!

by Anonymousreply 237October 6, 2021 1:44 AM

I want Jeremy Sisto, I want Anthony Anderson, I want Linus Roache and I want Alana De Garza or I will throw a tantrum in the privacy of my own home.

by Anonymousreply 238October 6, 2021 3:23 AM

Bring on Baranski!

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by Anonymousreply 239October 6, 2021 3:27 AM


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by Anonymousreply 240October 6, 2021 3:35 AM

Why NBC’s ‘Law & Order’ Revival Isn’t a Peacock Original:

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by Anonymousreply 241October 6, 2021 4:31 AM

It's gonna suck, guys. Trust me.

by Anonymousreply 242October 6, 2021 4:32 AM

They need to stick to straight, linear plots.

by Anonymousreply 243October 6, 2021 5:15 AM

[quote] Bring back Pino and the hot lesbian character just fired from SVU.

Is Pino still on Mayans MC? I liked the first season but pretty much forgot it existed.

The SVU lezzie was looked like a rat. Bring back Donal Logue!

by Anonymousreply 244October 6, 2021 5:37 AM

Jamie Gray Hyder was perfect in the part. Pino was on The Good Fight last season.

by Anonymousreply 245October 6, 2021 1:07 PM

Thank God that Wolf is smart enough to leave the formula alone.

[QUOTE]Wolf is mostly mum on details about the “L&O” rebirth, but did say not to expect any major changes to the show or its formula (although much of the casting will obviously have to be new). “This will be Season 21, so it’s the same ‘Law & Order’ everyone knows from the first 20 years,” he said. “So there’s really nothing to fix, we just want to continue telling great stories. Casting as always will be three cops and three D.A.s.”

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by Anonymousreply 246October 6, 2021 3:22 PM

Dicl Wolf looks like an older Judd Apatow. Not attractive at all.

by Anonymousreply 247October 7, 2021 1:21 AM

You don’t need to be attractive when you have his kind of money.

by Anonymousreply 248October 7, 2021 2:05 AM

I liked the early formula: the crime investigation in the first half, and the courtroom maneuvering in the second. I can appreciate a bit of background/development of the recurring characters, but hated when it took up too much time.

The absolute worst, IMO, was Jeff Goldblum in L&O:CI. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 249October 7, 2021 4:51 PM

Yawn. Let me know when they bring back "Law & Order: Elevator Inspectors Unit."

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by Anonymousreply 250October 7, 2021 6:02 PM

I don't remember Jeff Goldblum in L&O: Criminal Intent

I remember the regulars, Eric Bogosian, Vincent D'Onofrio, Kathryn Erbe and Courtney B. Vance. Was Jeff a guest star?

by Anonymousreply 251October 7, 2021 7:03 PM

R251 No. Goldblum was a regular in Seasons 8 and 9 (after Chris Noth left.)

by Anonymousreply 252October 7, 2021 7:08 PM

I’ve been rewatching Criminal Intent on one of the cable channels. It’s better than I remember.

by Anonymousreply 253October 7, 2021 7:27 PM

“On the season 73 premier of Law and Order…..”

by Anonymousreply 254October 7, 2021 7:28 PM

If I run across an episode now, r253, D'Onofrio is worse than I remember.

by Anonymousreply 255October 7, 2021 7:34 PM

Goldblum was brought in after both D'Onofrio and Noth left and killed the show dead both in the ratings and with the critics. That's why D'Onofrio and Erbe agreed to come back for an abbreviated ten episode final season, just to let the show be buried with some semblance of dignity.

by Anonymousreply 256October 7, 2021 8:24 PM

I watch to which Donofrio is in the episode. Skinny, fat, bloated, obese. Then I turn the channel.

by Anonymousreply 257October 7, 2021 8:41 PM

Are they finally going to pull the plug on the terrible SVU?

by Anonymousreply 258October 7, 2021 9:10 PM

^ over Mariska’s bloated corpse!

by Anonymousreply 259October 7, 2021 9:25 PM

R259, exactly the way I'd like to see them do it.

by Anonymousreply 260October 7, 2021 9:31 PM

This is the way, R259.

by Anonymousreply 261October 7, 2021 9:35 PM

Coming to Peacock Virtual in the fall of 2045: Law and Order:GVU (Geriatric Victims Unit). Detective Oleebia Benson retires as NYPD Chief of Detectives and moves into Shady Pines Skilled Nursing Care in Peekskill, NY. Oleebia investigates cases of elder abuse and Medicare fraud from her own room!

by Anonymousreply 262October 8, 2021 12:02 AM

Reno 911

by Anonymousreply 263October 8, 2021 12:47 AM

Criminal Intent had huge ups and downs over its ten year run.

The first few years with D'Onofrio and Erbe were great. You realize he was deliberately playing a camped up version of Sherlock Holmes, right, right down to sniffing everything? He got bored and didn't want to commit any more so they brought Noth in to alternate episodes. They worked great in tandem. But eventually both actors were over it so Wolf brought in Jeff Goldblum who did his own take and absolutely wrecked the show. That's why, as mentioned above, the brought back D'Onofrio and Erbe for a few episodes to bury the thing with grace.

Good show, good run, lots of ups and downs but managed to survive for ten seasons.

by Anonymousreply 264October 8, 2021 8:21 AM

Bring back Fran Lebowitz as the judge.

by Anonymousreply 265October 8, 2021 8:59 AM

Everyone hated Jeff Goldblum but I liked him. Even if he did insist on playing the piano.

I always thought D’Onofrio/Erbe altenated with Noth/Nicholson because D’Onofrio had a mental health issues.

by Anonymousreply 266October 8, 2021 2:14 PM

I’m not sure if D’Onofrio was suffering from mental health issues so much as growing tired of playing the same character. Most actors enjoy going from role to role with new directors, cast members, sets and locations. It’s like putting on a new suit. They expect to be movie stars, filming for a few months and then it’s on to something else. Instead you end up on some series for a decade playing the same person with the same faces, including some you might hate, and you can’t even work on anything else because of your obligations to that series. It becomes more like a 9-5 job, and for actors that can be soul crushing.

by Anonymousreply 267October 8, 2021 2:36 PM

Nope, Vinnie D had a nervous breakdown. It was reported at the time. He also gained a lot of SSRI weight at the time.

by Anonymousreply 268October 9, 2021 4:32 AM

R266, the episode that absolutely KILLED it for me was “Palimpsest” where he reunites with a Manic pixie Dream Woman he had banged in his earlier life. He should have recused himself from the case immediately. It was over the top, ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 269October 9, 2021 5:17 AM

R269, I too hated that episode... the waif flouncing about in a New York mansion which was constantly illuminated with candles. Candles all over a home that housed rare, uncataloged, randomly stacked works.

The dumbest of episodes and the fact that he simply flew off to London to spend an afternoon with an old flame to retell it in a cafe was even more ridiculous.

I really liked Goldblum on CI, but CI was the wrong program for his character. The same for Saffron Burrows' character. They should have been on a program built around the esoteric crimes of the insanely wealthy

by Anonymousreply 270October 9, 2021 12:01 PM

I couldn’t watch D’Onofrio at all so I was happy when they brought in Noth and Goldblum.

by Anonymousreply 271October 9, 2021 4:10 PM

The Jeremy Sisto character - Cyrus something? - was in law school a la Carisi. Perhaps he will return as a ADA.

by Anonymousreply 272October 9, 2021 5:46 PM

I also loved Law And Order UK. Great cast. And some especially sexy lawyers/ I’m looking at you, Ben Daniels.

by Anonymousreply 273October 9, 2021 5:53 PM

[quote] It's always fascinating to see so many New York actors make guest appearances before joining the mothership or one of the spin-offs as different characters as regulars. I never notices that until reruns.

It seemed to be a kind of audition to see if they get along with TPTB. Scanavino and Esparza guested on 3-4 of the Law And Order series as distinct characters before being recast and hired as regulars.

by Anonymousreply 274October 9, 2021 6:01 PM

Jeremy Sisto played the lead defense attorney in the last episode of Season 17 and was back as Det. Lupo in the first episode of Season 18.

by Anonymousreply 275October 9, 2021 6:16 PM

Bring back Carey Lowell.

by Anonymousreply 276October 9, 2021 7:03 PM

But BDF Sisto is on FBI/FBI Most Wanted/FBI International. It's not like they want him gone like Sela Ward.

by Anonymousreply 277October 9, 2021 7:19 PM

I was watching WeTV & their Law & Order promo - with graphics- proclaims that - in addition to being a 5-time nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize - the show has won more than 70 “Academy Awards.” Who are the brainiacs who work at WeTV?!

by Anonymousreply 278October 9, 2021 9:34 PM

R278, it's supposed to be tongue-in-cheek. You didn't get that?

by Anonymousreply 279October 9, 2021 11:18 PM

Carey Lowell should definitely come back.

by Anonymousreply 280October 10, 2021 5:06 AM

St. Olaf’s, r278?

by Anonymousreply 281October 10, 2021 5:03 PM

Apparently R278 doesn't have a tongue or cheek.

by Anonymousreply 282October 10, 2021 5:46 PM

Ok, in my defense, I've never watched Law & Order, but I know of its enormous reach, and that there's no limit to the people & entities nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. So the Nobel piece seemed very plausible to me, and not meant to be tongue-in-cheek. So I assumed it was a straight - but fact-challenged - promotion. I also didn't watch the commercial in full, so I was tipped-off to its satiric nature. nature.

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by Anonymousreply 283October 10, 2021 8:18 PM

The tweet in R283’s post is exactly why we need more episodes. These channels that broadcast the L&O marathons keep showing the same ones over and over again.

by Anonymousreply 284October 10, 2021 10:16 PM

George Clooney talks about AHS releasing Lily Rabe so she could make his movie. Probably why her character disapperars into the woods.

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by Anonymousreply 285October 11, 2021 12:13 AM

[quote]The tweet in [R283]’s post is exactly why we need more episodes. These channels that broadcast the L&O marathons keep showing the same ones over and over again.

On the weekends, SVU is on both ION and USA, both networks constantly repeat the same episodes. There are so many episodes then can air, SVU has been on for 22 years! I wonder why there are constant repeats.

I was wondering, perhaps the syndication deals both ION and USA have signed might be limited to certain seasons. I'm not sure how syndication works.

by Anonymousreply 286October 11, 2021 8:34 PM

Off-topic, but years ago I tried reading "The Tender Bar." I couldn't finish it... too depressing and I knew/didn't like many characters from my childhood/family.

Clooney will probably do well with the film, but I'll stay away.

by Anonymousreply 287October 12, 2021 11:19 AM

[quote] Clooney will probably do well with the film, but I'll stay away.

His Catch-22 was awful. Christopher Abbott as Yossarian couldn’t save it.

by Anonymousreply 288October 12, 2021 6:25 PM

No, I loved the book. My favorite part was his cousin? who was a pitcher for the Royals? They played catch one day and the cousin was working on a specific type of pitch. I thought it was a good description of the mind set you develop as a professional.

by Anonymousreply 289October 12, 2021 10:12 PM

Imagine if they brought back Vincent D’Onofrio, LOL

by Anonymousreply 290October 16, 2021 3:00 PM

Will this be a mash-up with Grace and Frankie?

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by Anonymousreply 291October 16, 2021 4:03 PM

Mariska apparently fired several crew members a few weeks ago because she’s been looking like shit on SVU but somehow better on Organized Crime.

Organized Crime sucks but I’m watching for Ellen Burstyn appearances. She’s fabulous.

by Anonymousreply 292October 17, 2021 1:45 PM

Mariska’s hairstyle is doing her no favors.

by Anonymousreply 293October 17, 2021 3:27 PM

Where did you read that, r292?

I love how every (younger, hotter) female cop on the show have to dress like her: black jeggings and long sleeve, form-fitted, dark tee and ponytail.

It’s funny because Meloni’s hair and makeup was verrrry poor on Organised Crime. His hair was darkened from a can and his makeup was unblended.

All the fans were mad at Sharon Stone when she said that on SVU she was taken aback when a makeup artist approached her with white primer to go under her foundation and how different it was from a film set. But how was she wrong? Teenagers on YouTube look amazing on their makeup tutorials but Meloni is walking around with sprayed on hair and unblended pancake?

by Anonymousreply 294October 17, 2021 6:33 PM

R294, I didn’t read that anywhere. I was told by a crew member who was there that it happened.

by Anonymousreply 295October 17, 2021 6:43 PM

Oh that’s GOLD, r295

by Anonymousreply 296October 17, 2021 7:07 PM

[quote] It’s funny because Meloni’s hair and makeup was verrrry poor on Organised Crime. His hair was darkened from a can and his makeup was unblended.

Meloni is BALD on Organized Crime with very unfortunate facial hair. He looks like shit.

There was a teaser at the end of last week's SVU that said this coming week's upcoming new episode with be the 500th. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 297October 17, 2021 7:30 PM

r296=Kenny Bania

by Anonymousreply 298October 17, 2021 9:18 PM

Mariska is aging terribly and she's blaming the SVU crew?

She looked great when she appeared on Seinfeld, her character was auditioning for the Elaine character role in Jerry's sitcom.

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by Anonymousreply 299October 18, 2021 1:06 AM

She was like 30 years younger, R299. What the hell do you expect? Everybody on that show looked better than they do now.

by Anonymousreply 300October 18, 2021 1:18 AM

[quote] Mariska is aging terribly and she's blaming the SVU crew?

Yeah, everyone knows the lightening and photography can make or break a look. Watch "Jinxed" with Bette Midler and look what a crew that doesn't like you can make you look.

by Anonymousreply 301October 18, 2021 10:00 AM

[quote]She was like 30 years younger, [R299]. What the hell do you expect? Everybody on that show looked better than they do now.

Yet, Julia Louis-Dreyfus still manages to look damn good, even after having cancer. Mariska has been looking very masculine..

by Anonymousreply 302October 18, 2021 12:11 PM

Yes, Julia looks good R302 but nowhere near as good as she did in the 90s. Elaine was so cute, she made me question if I could be straight for her.

by Anonymousreply 303October 18, 2021 5:46 PM

[quote]Yes, Julia looks good [R302] but nowhere near as good as she did in the 90s. Elaine was so cute, she made me question if I could be straight for her.

Everyone ages, that's a given, but some people look much younger than their actual age. Over the past few years Mariska has really hit the wall.

Compared to Mariska, with her masculine jawline and big boned peasant looks, Julia still looks like an absolute super model.

by Anonymousreply 304October 18, 2021 6:46 PM

Jeffrey Donovan from Burn Notice is cast!

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by Anonymousreply 305November 2, 2021 9:50 AM

I find him boringly plain-faced.

by Anonymousreply 306November 2, 2021 10:27 AM

R229, I see you equate "facts" with being "anal." How quaint.

No, I am not new here. Nor am I new to Google ("Layne Staley"); you?

And I have watched the OG "L&O" more than you can guess; have 78 Orbach episodes permanently recorded; and have sundry print matter relating to the series.

Now, I'm not saying you're 100% incorrect, as I've no doubt there were "in-jokes" with the names of some victims and villains. But "ALWAYS"??

Unless you can specify any of those "famous names" from the original "L&O," all you offer here are "Homicide" music allusions as examples. I'd chalk those up to Richard Belzer, whose only rival in Detective Cool was Jerry Orbach (who probably wouldn't have come up with a Nirvana name).

"Van Buren" and "Adam Schiff" don't count.

by Anonymousreply 307November 2, 2021 10:55 AM

Anthony Anderson (yea!) and Sam Waterson (nay) have been approached.

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by Anonymousreply 308November 2, 2021 10:56 AM

[quote] Jeffrey Donovan from Burn Notice is cast!

Strike ONE.

by Anonymousreply 309November 2, 2021 3:02 PM

I like him better than the blond guy on SVU. Or Benjamin Bratt

by Anonymousreply 310November 2, 2021 3:04 PM

Jeffrey Donovan is hot!!! Hope he at least presents hole here or maybe bare his hairy chest!

by Anonymousreply 311November 2, 2021 11:06 PM

Anthony Anderson and Jeffrey Donovan would make a damn fine detective team if you ask me, R309,

by Anonymousreply 312November 3, 2021 12:03 AM

Donovan is all too obvious as a bitchy DA (he’s played an asshole lawyer more than once for Eastwood) so I rather hope he is a cop paired with Anderson.

by Anonymousreply 313November 4, 2021 4:13 PM

Oh, the TV series.

For a moment, I thought Biden was bringing back law and order to this country.

My bad.

by Anonymousreply 314November 4, 2021 4:14 PM

[quote]I like him better than the blond guy on SVU.

Carisi? I haven’t seen the last season.

by Anonymousreply 315November 4, 2021 4:15 PM

I've liked Jeffrey Donovan since he played twins on a particularly suspenseful two-parter in season 4 of HLOTS. The writing on Burn Notice, unfortunately, was insipid. I'll be happy to see him on L&O.

I hope Dick Wolf will also find a regular spot for David T. Patterson, whom I saw on this week's episode of Wolf's FBI program.

If Jeffrey and David were to play husbands, so much the better.

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by Anonymousreply 316November 4, 2021 4:33 PM

TONIGHT, 11/04---7:00 p.m.---Sundance TV---S14, E24---"C.O.D":


by Anonymousreply 317November 4, 2021 11:15 PM

R314, He's not a Fascist, sorry.

by Anonymousreply 318November 4, 2021 11:26 PM

Thanks r317 for the heads up, but my Sundance TV station isn’t airing it until tomorrow, Friday night 11/5 @ 7pm.

Just an FYI for everybody to check your local listings in case your channel line up or times are different.

by Anonymousreply 319November 5, 2021 12:20 AM

Ha, r319! You are correct---November 5!

How did I get that wrong? It's on my birthday!

by Anonymousreply 320November 5, 2021 1:15 AM

Happy Birthday r320! I just figured you were in the next day zone or your cable provider ran an alternate schedule. Enjoy your day tomorrow!

by Anonymousreply 321November 5, 2021 1:31 AM

Thank you, r321! Smooches!

by Anonymousreply 322November 5, 2021 2:05 AM

They should do a zombie crossover from special perverts unit.

Bring back Sonia Paxton and Sister Peg and have them reanimated zombies.

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by Anonymousreply 323November 5, 2021 2:43 AM

It's 12 noon ET, Sunday, 11/14/21 and the WE network's running L&O - YEA, it's season one!

The 11am episode was their Lisa Stenberg case... David Groh, so good and we know that he will return season's later and be murdered by a prison shrink!

by Anonymousreply 324November 14, 2021 5:05 PM

Thank you, r324! My cable allows for a re-wind of earlier-televised shows!

by Anonymousreply 325November 14, 2021 9:21 PM

11/15/21, 12noon ET and it's L&O time on the WE network. Oh man, a classic season one episode is on! Christine Baranski is playing Masucci's younger sister. She is one NY girl not to be messed with fellas!

by Anonymousreply 326November 15, 2021 5:26 PM

11/16/21 and guess who is in the 12noon ET episode of L&O and it's from season one... Harriet Harris! Freakin' Bebe from Frasier is playing an Irish-born waitress in some very smoky NYC bar.

by Anonymousreply 327November 16, 2021 5:27 PM

I’m LOVING your programming updates ‘ByJupiter’ @ r327! Include all the franchises if you have the time and then everyone can discuss in a separate thread.

by Anonymousreply 328November 16, 2021 11:16 PM

Thanks R328... yesterday I saw a season one episode that Clark Gregg (you know Agent Coulson from the Marvel films and the ex-Mr. Jennifer Grey) in the cast! Good Lord he was so young (weren't we all?). He was a Catholic school teacher who had knocked up his Catholic school teacher girlfriend... she was dead though, because the abortion clinic she visited was blown up! Poor, poor, Clark - I would have offered comfort, but was never written into the script all those years ago.

BTW - I'm an L&O guy... have never enjoyed SVU (weekly sexual abuse is not my thing and the lesbians arguing over and over and over? Ugh.) CI has its casts, but that show often had convoluted and ridiculous storylines/crimes and for a long time was the D'Onofrio 10 minute monologue at the end - tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 329November 16, 2021 11:38 PM

Today's 12noon episode is excellent... an old, old, episode. Man is dead, his father will do anything to keep the case out of the courtroom because his murdered son is gay. G-A-Y. It's heartbreaking. A father's need to keep his son in the closet because of how embarrassed he is of the son's homosexuality. Final minutes are excellent. It's Sunday, 11/21.

by Anonymousreply 330November 21, 2021 5:57 PM

Sounds good. I’ll have to record it r330 ‘ByJupiter’. I’m in the midst of a “Riptide” marathon on DecadesTV and I’m flat on my back from a hard day working the ‘flea’ yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 331November 21, 2021 7:26 PM

By Jupiter,

My two favorite episodes feature Larry Miller as "Michael Dobson," wife-killer: Season 5's "Coma" and Season 6's "Encore."

by Anonymousreply 332November 22, 2021 7:24 PM

R332 - I can remember the first time I saw the second episode with Larry Miller (wife-killer extraordinaire). It seemed so out of character for L&O to revisit a character, but it was worth the second go 'round.

Personally, I've often wondered if the L&O writers had written "what ever happened to?" scripts for so many of the characters that got sent to jail for 15 or 20 years. Those murderers would be eligible for parole at this point!

BTW - I saw L&O today, 11/22, at 12noon - another Harriet Harris episode! She played an FDA official talking about pacemakers with bad leads that caused heart attacks.

by Anonymousreply 333November 22, 2021 10:14 PM

L&O: UK streams for free on the IMDB network.

by Anonymousreply 334November 23, 2021 3:00 AM

Anthony Anderson is coming back and Hugh Dancy is joining the show

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by Anonymousreply 335November 24, 2021 12:33 AM

Yes! I loved Anthony Anderson. As Alana De La Garza and Jeremy Sisto and happily ensconced in FBI and Linus Roche probably back in Britain it’s nice to have one of the last 4 leads back.

by Anonymousreply 336November 24, 2021 1:32 AM

Hugh Dancy, I can't stand him. 🤮🤮

Did Jerry Orbach have a son? If so, can he act? I would rather see a regular's offspring than the very mannered Hugh Dancy.

Is lard ass Chris Noth coming back?

Chris on the set of the SATC reboot.

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by Anonymousreply 337November 24, 2021 1:51 AM

Anthony Anderson is on Blackish, how’s that going to work?

by Anonymousreply 338November 24, 2021 2:00 AM

Guys, I’m worried. I just watched something called FBI International. It was absolute dreck. Simplistic, jingoistic, an embarrassment. It’s a Dick Wolf production. I think he’s lost it.

by Anonymousreply 339November 24, 2021 2:59 AM

[quote]Anthony Anderson is on Blackish, how’s that going to work?

Blackish has one more season and that's it.

by Anonymousreply 340November 24, 2021 3:21 AM

Not an origonal thought in all of hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 341November 24, 2021 3:57 AM

I told you early on in this thread: we're going to get Milena Govich and Elizabeth Rohm and we'll deal.

by Anonymousreply 342November 24, 2021 3:59 AM

Yea, I really don't care about this revival of L&O and I loved the show for many, many years.

And as R339 wrote, I've been unimpressed with Dick Wolf programs for a long time... the Chicago Fire and P.D. shows are also jingoistic in their own way, lots of talk about how firefighters are "brothers", always their for each other and oh-so put upon by the rest of the world. P.D. is soft-core torture porn of being a cop and Med is just idiotic.

I've tried the new FBI programs and find them silly since every agent and every investigation places a halo atop every characters head. The real-life history and actions of the FBI begs to differ. One cool thing: the overseas shots of European cities on FBI: International - love those.

What surprises me is how many former L&O actors are in these new Wolf productions that are just inferior to the program they once worked on. There must be other roles available... is the pay that good? Is the work schedule light enough that they are each happy to do a few scenes and leave the set for other projects?

by Anonymousreply 343November 24, 2021 10:43 AM

Prior to cancellation I think that Eames was going to take over from Van Burren? Which probably won’t happen now. But there will be a female ADA and possibly police lieutenant to balance out the cast. They will probably cast an Asian in the mix.

I don’t want to see Sam Waterson. His croaky voice has bothered me since The Newsroom.

Personally, I’d love to see Barba or Stone again and depending on how out of work they are, maybe Esparza or Winchester will do a season.

by Anonymousreply 344November 25, 2021 2:10 PM

If you watched the original L&O, you may know today's 11 AM ET episode by this one line, "I'm Susan Forrest." Hint, hint, Kunstler is the big guest star...

I love this one.

by Anonymousreply 345November 26, 2021 4:14 PM
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