‘Star Wars’ Editor Marcia Lucas Slams Kathleen Kennedy and J.J. Abrams: ‘They Don’t Have a Clue’

Here's a clue, bitch.

Sooner or later Kennedys fuck up everything they touch

Chewbacquiddick

She's absolutely right.

Yup.

Lucas sold off his right to bitch about any of this.

She's right. The new trilogy is terrible.

Wasn't it said that Harrison Ford's condition for returning to the role of Han Solo was if they killed him off?

R8 Maybe it was, but there was a way to do that much better...also, they wasted the potential of having the three original leads reunite.

I'm sure George feels precisely the same way about the newest trilogy. He likes The Mandalorian, though. If Disney's smart, they'll have Dave Filoni supervise over all the upcoming Star Wars films and TV shows. He knows what he's doing with the material and respects what George Lucas created.

I didn't hate the most recent three as much as you did. I'd rather they didn't kill off Han Solo and Luke Skywalker but whatever. I'd be happy if they went in a more "Mandalorian" direction in the future.

When is that Boba Fett series/season coming? I'm looking forward to it.

Great. A particular portion of the fanbase is going to have a field day with this.

Does she not even know that most of the story/plot/character points she doesn't like from the sequels were supposedly from George's original outlines for the sequel trilogy? Contrary to what many believe, JJ/Rian/Kathleen actually used a good majority of his ideas, just slightly reworking them. A female jedi as the new hero, the Skywalker/Solo offspring as the new villain, killing off the legacy characters, etc. In fact, George wanted to kill Luke and Han in his original idea for Ep 7 (fairly early on). And his take on Luke was even darker. Harrison also only agreed to return if they killed of Han, which is what he originally wanted in Ep 6 (Return of the Jedi). I believe it was stipulated that he would only return for 1 film, and that's if they killed off Solo. Also the idea of the son killing his father was also George's idea. In fact, JJ and Kathleen expanded on what to do with the legacy characters far more than what was originally planned by George.

☝️ Disney shill alert! ☝️

R13 There is no 'shilling'...those points were discussed by multiple creatives involved, and published in multiple articles, and have been discussed in fan circles for years now.

[quote]When is that Boba Fett series/season coming? I'm looking forward to it.

December.

Cool. Thank you, R15.

That’s not the case R8. Although he’d said in previous years that he wanted to kill Han Solo off, when Ford signed for the new movies, he expected to be in all three. This was before they threw out the George Lucas treatment of the story.

The new trilogy was a fucking mess, poorly cast, and most people hated it.

Im glad someone finally publicly blasted those two bitches, everyone else in the industry has something to lose so theyve kissed their asses. Kennedy and Abrams totally ran the franchise in the ground.

The problem is the legit gripes the audience had with the trilogy (ie the story wasn’t planned out from episode to episode) got lost within the torrent of racist, misogynist incel garbage that forever tainted the fandom in the eyes of the wider world

She only hates the Disney trilogy because she's a white man! Oh wait.

I read somewhere that the contract George Lucas signed with Disney when he sold Star Wars stipulated that he couldn't disparage the company or the movies publicly. That's why he only gave faint praise to the new movies, saying they looked great or lauding the cinematography.

But killing Yoda.was fine since it was their idea.

I loved the first three and last three installments in this franchise.

She's totally right, and by the way, her editing saved A New Hope.

Marcia Lucas, you will never work in this town again!

She ain’t wrong

Are there more Star Wars movies planned? With Rey, Finn, etc? Or in three years is there going to be the start of a new trilogy?

I was excited for these new ones, but they weren’t great. The first one was okay, I was fine with Han dying and Oscar Isaac as Poe was hot as hell. Kylo Ren turned out to be a waste- he had potential. They never should’ve ‘redeemed’ him. Should’ve kept him bad to the end. Whatever. The second and third- crap.

The best Star Wars movie in recent years was Rogue One. That was great.

I agree Rogue One was the best Star Wars movie in recent years. And The Mandalorian is a great show. Both tell stories from within the Star Wars universe and tell them well. They capture the feel of the original trilogy but tell their own stories. That's what can save the Star Wars universe. The last trilogy had an ok first movie (it was really a re-telling of the A New Hope), then squandered the other two.

They did blow so many chances in the new trilogy, like having Luke, Leia and Han all together again. Then recycling the Emperor as the big-bad was just such a terrible idea. Why re-tread old ground, and also shit on the legacy of the original trilogy which had our heroes successfully defeat the Emperor only to have him come back? Just terrible, no matter whose idea it was. And if it was George Lucas's idea, it still sucked. Why even pursue an idea from him when he totally fucked up the prequels?

[quote]The problem is the legit gripes the audience had with the trilogy (ie the story wasn’t planned out from episode to episode) got lost within the torrent of racist, misogynist incel garbage that forever tainted the fandom in the eyes of the wider world

Any criticism of how shit the actors in the new trilogy were got shouted down with "racist!" "misogynist!" accusations.

There's been talk of having the new trilogy not being in the Star Wars canon. There are absolutely no plans to do anything with those characters in future projects.

Has there ever been a franchise with more unhappy, whiny fans than Star Wars? It peaked with Empire Strikes Back and ever since there has been nothing but complaints. It has been 3 decades of fanboys’ and fangirls’ tears. Give it up.

Actually r30 the Mandalorian and Rogue One are loved.

Because we all want to hear the fanboys’ and fangirls’ cries of it’s not as good as the “Empire Strikes Back” for four more decades. These obsessives are never going to be happy with anything.

Kennedy and Abrams were wise to ignore them and keep making bank off the properties. I hope they make every one of these incels regret ever having spent one minute of their lives caring about Star Wars.

Now you know why George divorced her back in 1983. She hates everything, including the prequels. There's a lot of misogyny and this and if they had let her continue I'd bet she'd go off on having black actors cast as a lead too. Boomer dope.

Now you know why George divorced her back in 1983. She hates everything, including the prequels. There's a lot of misogyny and this and if they had let her continue I'd bet she'd go off on having black actors cast as a lead too. Boomer dope.

[quote]These obsessives are never going to be happy with anything.

Again, people love The Mandalorian and Rogue One.

[quote]Kennedy and Abrams were wise to ignore them and keep making bank off the properties.

The new trilogy is hated and didn't perform as well. Nobody is going to remember it in 40 years, like the original films. People just want to forget it ever happened.

The fact is that none of the movies are very good. And I say that as a fan. I saw Episode 4 when it first opened and yeah, I loved it. I really liked The Empire Strikes Back. I liked Return Of The Jedi except for those fucking Ewoks.

Then Lucas gets total control of it all and grinds out the absolutely shitty Episodes 1 and 2. Episode 3 was better, but not great.

I really liked the last three. I realize I'm in the minority but they're just better movies. TBH I think a lot fanboys hate that the last Jedi is a woman.

I recently rewatched the original three films. They're just okay.

She also said that "The Phantom Menace" was so bad, it made her cry! Rofl!!!

[quote] One member of the “Star Wars” family who doesn’t hide her dislike of the prequels is Marcia Lucas, who won an Oscar for editing the original “Star Wars” along with Paul Hirsch and Richard Chew. She returned to co-edit “Return of the Jedi” and went uncredited on “The Empire Strikes Back.” Marcia Lucas was married to George Lucas between 1969 and 1983. In Rinzler’s book, Marcia revealed “Phantom Menace” was so bad that she cried after a screening of the movie.

[quote] “George is, in his heart and soul, a good guy and a talented filmmaker. I wish he would’ve kept directing [other kinds of] movies,” Lucas said. “But when I went to see Episode I — I had a friend who worked at ILM, who took me as a guest to a preview — I cried. I cried because I didn’t think it was very good. And I thought he had such a rich vein to mine, a rich palette to tell stories with. He had all those characters.”

[quote] Lucas continued, “I thought it was weird that the story was about this little boy who looked like he was six years old, but then later on he’s supposed to get with this princess who looked like she was twenty years old. There were things I didn’t like about the casting, and things I didn’t like about the story…it was a lot of eye candy. CG.”

One reason the original trilogy became so successful is because of the cast. Ford, Fisher and Hamill were lightning in a bottle. They were all absolutely perfect for their roles, and had loads of charisma and fantastic shared chemistry with one another. You cared about their characters and what happened to them, there was a bond with the audience.

Also, Alec Guinness played Obi-Wan Kenobi like he was playing Shakespeare. He gave 110% of himself into that performance and it showed. He elevated the material and gave the whole story a touch of class.

It was brilliant casting, and the following films could never capture that magic that the original actors had.

I just have one question.

HOW IN THE HELL DID LEIA SURVIVE BEING BLASTED INTO SPACE, AND THEN FLOATED BACK TO THE SHIP???

That part always trips me out. Her body would have been instantly frozen into an ice cube. And she wouldn't have been able to breathe!!!

It's way, way, way, way too unbelievable. Even more Sci-Fi.

r39 it was The Force.